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"Official Washington Professional Football Team 2015 Season Post"
Fri Aug-21-15 09:29 AM by Dae021

          

- Can we lock last season's Post and just start this one? Thanks

- OUTLOOK: BLEAK, its week 2 of pre-season and we're already the walking wounded. We have one TE on the roster from last year, and he's made of glass. We have some young kids who are atheletic but can't block for shit.

- QB's, what in gods name were they thinking of bringing back the same dudes from last year, not a single uprgade there. NONE!!

- This is going to be a learnign year for the D. THe line looks good, but the DB's do not look great. Duke, the new strong safety plays all over the field and I like him.

- This might be the swansong for Gruden. we'll see.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Preseason Week 2 @ home against the Lions
Aug 21st 2015
1
they have a GM who might finally build a foundation.
Aug 21st 2015
2
I was SCREAMING in the bar last night on a 3rd and 5
Aug 21st 2015
3
      he can't read defenses and make decisions on the fly
Aug 21st 2015
4
           I think a bigger problem is pocket awareness
Aug 21st 2015
5
Didn't see the game.
Aug 21st 2015
6
the starting offense was literally hard to watch.
Aug 25th 2015
7
I am glad GMSM is making Gruden stick with Robert
Aug 25th 2015
8
I wish there wasn't just so much focus on Robert.
Aug 25th 2015
9
      there are sooo many holes on this team.
Aug 26th 2015
11
#10 has to come up 295 this weekend. I wish him luck
Aug 25th 2015
10
junior gallette tore his achilles today... (swipe)
Aug 26th 2015
12
damn
Aug 26th 2015
13
Ugh talk about bad luck
Aug 26th 2015
14
whatever
Aug 26th 2015
15
      it wont be that bad. also here is the swipe that i left out above...
Aug 27th 2015
16
           what a wasted 2nd rnd pick
Aug 27th 2015
17
                Who hasn't been a wasted pick?
Aug 27th 2015
18
                thats a bit harsh. he's good at stopping the run.
Aug 27th 2015
19
                     at least he's on the roster and might get playing time
Aug 27th 2015
23
                          i just think its too early to judge.
Aug 28th 2015
25
                               even if he servicable
Aug 28th 2015
27
3-13. Gruden Fired. Griffin gone. #2 overall pick next year.
Aug 27th 2015
20
5-11. Gruden gets final 3rd year to prove himself with qb of his choice
Aug 27th 2015
21
Man Gruden is a loser.
Aug 27th 2015
22
      Agreed. The team has no identity.
Aug 28th 2015
26
5-11. Gruden rightfully put out of his misery.
Aug 27th 2015
24
I'm blown away by the ineptitude
Aug 29th 2015
28
I'm as embarrassed as the next fan, but there's a visible difference
Aug 30th 2015
29
v v v v
Aug 30th 2015
30
LMFAO
Aug 31st 2015
32
Dude, the fatigue is palpable.....
Aug 31st 2015
34
dude, it is
Aug 31st 2015
45
RG 2 and 3 were right though, he's not built to run that offense long te...
Aug 31st 2015
91
They gave griff every chance to win the job
Aug 31st 2015
31
      No, he can't
Aug 31st 2015
33
      I think you're misunderstanding what i'm saying
Aug 31st 2015
35
      It's the Snyder way
Aug 31st 2015
36
      You won't ever have a winner this way, ever
Aug 31st 2015
38
      Dude, i was just saying this the other day....
Aug 31st 2015
37
      At this point its either Allen or Snyder himself
Aug 31st 2015
39
      i guess. but like robert, the skins are just clickbait at this point.
Aug 31st 2015
48
           Yeah I think Gruden is incompetent
Aug 31st 2015
62
      Hmm.....
Aug 31st 2015
41
           between being hurt and not owning his mistakes, it all adds up
Aug 31st 2015
43
           I'd feel better about this reply if they didn't make promises to Robert.
Aug 31st 2015
55
                coaches have to lie a little bit.
Aug 31st 2015
69
                They didn't have to commit to him at all.
Aug 31st 2015
71
                     GMSM came in and said early that he like robert's potential
Aug 31st 2015
83
                          He had a choice to an open competition. He didn't do that.
Aug 31st 2015
90
                he's BEEN #1; tried psychology this year...
Aug 31st 2015
81
           they owe him $16 Mill if he's injured out of the season
Aug 31st 2015
56
kirk named starter for the season
Aug 31st 2015
40
Goodbye Robert. It was nice knowing you.
Aug 31st 2015
42
Kirk isn't the answer. He showed us that last year.
Aug 31st 2015
44
lol
Aug 31st 2015
46
I keep saying: You all alone in these streets, Cousins!
Aug 31st 2015
53
I'm in chicago so we can't talk. But eff is wrong with yall
Aug 31st 2015
47
But eff is wrong with yall....... Everything.
Aug 31st 2015
49
Kirk's Team
Aug 31st 2015
50
      Kirk's Team will suck just as bad as Robert's Team.
Aug 31st 2015
51
      I doubt McClouhan thinks Cousins is a real answer
Aug 31st 2015
54
CAPTAIN KIRK WHOO-RIDE
Aug 31st 2015
52
his first two games are at home.
Aug 31st 2015
57
he's made of interceptions.
Aug 31st 2015
58
lol
Sep 03rd 2015
138
We already know what he is made of.
Aug 31st 2015
61
      agreed.
Aug 31st 2015
72
      EXACTLY.
Aug 31st 2015
86
Cousins blows. Period
Aug 31st 2015
59
and the better option is...
Aug 31st 2015
60
      RGIII
Aug 31st 2015
63
           unfortunately, i agree with you. he's still our best option at this poi...
Aug 31st 2015
64
           sHYT! IF RGIII'S COACH GAVE A SHIT
Aug 31st 2015
88
           Griffin sacked 10 times per 1 attempt. Cousins 26 to 1 attempt.
Aug 31st 2015
89
                You ever notice the play calling differences?
Aug 31st 2015
92
                     FWIW, cooley swears its the same plays called for each QBs
Aug 31st 2015
95
                     You ever notice how many open WRs Griffin misses?
Aug 31st 2015
98
                          i feel like if Garcon had caught that one easy TD pass
Aug 31st 2015
100
                          Nah.....That probably wouldn't have changed much.
Aug 31st 2015
102
                          ever notice that the pocket closes in on him
Sep 01st 2015
119
           have you watched the preseason though?
Aug 31st 2015
74
           what did RGIII do to prove he's better than Kirk Cousins
Aug 31st 2015
75
           bottom line is, we don't have a true starting NFL qb.
Aug 31st 2015
77
           Lead the team to the playoffs.
Sep 01st 2015
105
                3 years ago, running an offense he now refuses to run.
Sep 01st 2015
106
                     let's also not forget the role that Cousins played in that playoff run
Sep 01st 2015
120
           *gets in line right here*
Sep 03rd 2015
154
9-7
Aug 31st 2015
66
      hol' up, you think the Skins will go 9-7 this year?
Aug 31st 2015
67
      point out the wins......
Aug 31st 2015
68
      split the division games plus 6 more wins
Aug 31st 2015
70
           We got Joe Barry as a DC
Aug 31st 2015
73
           absolutely delusional.
Aug 31st 2015
76
           it might be
Aug 31st 2015
101
           special teams are still bad. defense is more talented.
Aug 31st 2015
85
                Frontline is definitely more talented.
Aug 31st 2015
87
                     the DBs have been injured.
Aug 31st 2015
96
                          They still can't tackle.
Aug 31st 2015
99
           I'm willing to put money on us going 0-6 in the division
Aug 31st 2015
78
                nah, joe.
Aug 31st 2015
84
      Cmon bud.
Aug 31st 2015
82
Joe Barry is about to have 2 0-16 records under his belt.
Aug 31st 2015
65
I came in here to talk about Football but then I saw your avy
Aug 31st 2015
79
      lmao
Aug 31st 2015
80
           Do you know that chick or is that just some internet photo?
Aug 31st 2015
104
i want this team to fail so bad this year
Aug 31st 2015
93
you are in luck
Aug 31st 2015
94
no...worse than that, donnie dogg.
Aug 31st 2015
97
They not gonna fail if you want them to fail this year.
Aug 31st 2015
103
      i think i'm safe here, unless not failing to you is winning a lot
Sep 01st 2015
108
im looking fwd to watching them crash & burn AGAIN.
Sep 01st 2015
107
Is homie really this dumb? SWIPE
Sep 01st 2015
109
I'm floored
Sep 01st 2015
110
he has a masters and finished undergrad in 3 years
Sep 01st 2015
115
      i can't even call it at this point. This is like new level stupid
Sep 01st 2015
117
aye yay yay
Sep 01st 2015
111
lmao
Sep 01st 2015
113
Sheesh he's stupid.
Sep 01st 2015
118
The Letter L continues to lose
Sep 01st 2015
112
we hired their DC
Sep 01st 2015
114
^^^ NEVER FORGET
Sep 01st 2015
116
      IN THE FIRST SEASON
Sep 15th 2015
187
So I guess the mystery behind how all this information is leaking is sol...
Sep 02nd 2015
121
they tried to deny the shit and then got caught LOL
Sep 02nd 2015
122
Wow....Can it get any worse?
Sep 02nd 2015
123
      no one would believe it! all that shit in one season?
Sep 02nd 2015
127
      and the season hasn't even started yet. smh.
Sep 03rd 2015
140
      Jay Gruden takes bumps before leading the team...
Sep 02nd 2015
128
           based on his face, I really wouldn't be surprised if he did
Sep 02nd 2015
134
LOL..yo
Sep 02nd 2015
124
She'll never live that down whether its true or not.
Sep 02nd 2015
130
      its probably true.
Sep 02nd 2015
132
you couldn't even make this one up
Sep 02nd 2015
125
LOL, cotdamn
Sep 02nd 2015
126
LMAO. I am thoroughly entertained
Sep 02nd 2015
129
well the outrage started from something obviously
Sep 02nd 2015
131
ALL WE WANT IS LIFE BEYOOOOOND...
Sep 02nd 2015
133
^^^ this was fantastic and slept on reply.
Sep 14th 2015
170
They're trying to play this as a sexist attack on a female journalist.
Sep 03rd 2015
135
      again, this started from something.
Sep 03rd 2015
136
      Yep. Sports media is in 'protect our own' mode, though.
Sep 03rd 2015
137
           And they can do this because its not like Washington has much
Sep 03rd 2015
139
      She did it, they spinning this thing the best way they can
Sep 03rd 2015
141
           to me, this is like Petraeus and CIA
Sep 03rd 2015
142
           Dude, I hate to admit it, but......
Sep 03rd 2015
143
                haha damn yall, she aint that bad lookin'
Sep 03rd 2015
144
                     I mean she's not but.....
Sep 03rd 2015
146
                          Maybe I just catch her on off days when she's reporting
Sep 03rd 2015
152
I think an official name change is in order right about now.
Sep 03rd 2015
147
^^^^
Sep 03rd 2015
148
I hope it comes with an owner change.
Sep 03rd 2015
149
Washington Rednoses
Sep 03rd 2015
150
Washington Teetotalers
Sep 03rd 2015
151
Washington Headskins
Sep 03rd 2015
153
I hate this team, the coaches and the protect Kirk Cousins fans
Sep 14th 2015
155
I am avoiding talk radio today. I know what i saw.
Sep 14th 2015
156
this post is absurd
Sep 14th 2015
171
first, ignore the radio. Second, can't we separate the two QBs?
Sep 14th 2015
157
      No way this team wins 5 games
Sep 14th 2015
158
      I bet they win 6
Sep 14th 2015
160
      probably not, that's why I said at best
Sep 14th 2015
173
      a guy can dream
Sep 14th 2015
159
      Cousins is not better than RG3
Sep 14th 2015
161
           they're both pretty bad
Sep 14th 2015
163
           you are incorrect
Sep 14th 2015
168
                that's a flaming #hottake there
Sep 14th 2015
169
                I'm so tired of this shit. You obviously don't know the story.
Sep 14th 2015
174
                He's only been successful in Shannahan's system
Sep 16th 2015
204
           What?!?!?!?
Sep 14th 2015
167
                look at KC turnovers vs RG3 turnovers
Sep 14th 2015
172
                     RG3 fumbles if someone farts near him.
Sep 14th 2015
175
                     How would you react if people had free access to fart near you?
Sep 14th 2015
176
                     each QB has his pros/cons
Sep 14th 2015
178
I can't remember the last time I saw an o-line hold so much as yesterday
Sep 14th 2015
162
i can't remember the last time I saw blatant unsportsmanlike conducts mi...
Sep 14th 2015
164
      RE: i can't remember the last time I saw blatant unsportsmanlike conduct...
Sep 14th 2015
165
           lol
Sep 14th 2015
166
Forbath was cut today.
Sep 14th 2015
177
Rejoice, all our problems are solved!
Sep 14th 2015
179
everything is awesome
Sep 14th 2015
180
Over/Under, Kirk Cousins 3INT's vs the Rams, what say you?
Sep 14th 2015
181
could care less as long as the Skins win
Sep 14th 2015
182
they won't
Sep 15th 2015
184
      Come again??
Sep 20th 2015
206
I'll go under with about 2.
Sep 15th 2015
183
3 picks. 4 turnovers total from him.
Sep 15th 2015
191
you lost
Sep 20th 2015
205
      I did. Good thing I did.
Sep 21st 2015
227
After Week 1, How are we feeling?
Sep 15th 2015
185
my two cents
Sep 15th 2015
188
RE: my two cents
Sep 15th 2015
193
in relative or absolute terms?
Sep 15th 2015
192
I mean I know how you feel overall
Sep 15th 2015
194
      honestly I'm probably not going to be watching much this year
Sep 15th 2015
196
           in watching the game last Sunday with Skins fans
Sep 15th 2015
197
                this is virtually a rock bottom roster
Sep 15th 2015
201
RE: After Week 1, How are we feeling?
Sep 15th 2015
198
      RE: After Week 1, How are we feeling?
Sep 16th 2015
202
And now the local press is shitting on D. Jackson
Sep 15th 2015
186
ok, what's going to happen when they run out of scapegoats
Sep 15th 2015
189
Honestly dog, its boring to write We can't even come up with reasons
Sep 15th 2015
195
Man.....I can't believe they would even go this far.
Sep 15th 2015
199
well, I actually sort of agree with a lot of this
Sep 15th 2015
190
I'm looking a little sideeye at Brewer
Sep 15th 2015
200
      all JLC did was tell the truth
Sep 16th 2015
203
MATT JONES
Sep 20th 2015
207
Honestly, that's the best Skins win since Thanksgiving 2012
Sep 20th 2015
208
      Gotta give this win to the Linemen
Sep 21st 2015
209
           find a way to win Thursday and everything changes...
Sep 21st 2015
210
                Nah, I still don't trust Gruden.
Sep 21st 2015
212
                RE: find a way to win Thursday and everything changes...
Sep 21st 2015
218
                if they win, they become this seasons good bad team
Sep 21st 2015
220
i must admit...they looked good offensively.
Sep 21st 2015
211
Listen, if you want to prop up Kirk, cool but..
Sep 21st 2015
213
just call in when he sucks and watch how quick they hang up on you
Sep 21st 2015
214
Oh, after last week it already happened
Sep 21st 2015
215
      i feel like 106.7 is much better
Sep 21st 2015
216
RGIII is not even playing right now. What is the point of bashing dude n...
Sep 21st 2015
217
you guys read and listen to the wrong media
Sep 21st 2015
219
I've been listening to radio all day...
Sep 21st 2015
221
      dc sports bog got it right
Sep 21st 2015
222
      I only listened to Monday Morning QB
Sep 21st 2015
223
And of course we can't win without drama: RGIII hates Kirk (link)
Sep 21st 2015
224
Jason Cole is a total joke
Sep 21st 2015
225
I call BS on this
Sep 21st 2015
226
I don't believe that for one second.
Sep 21st 2015
228
They Released David Amerson today
Sep 21st 2015
229
should've never been a second rounder
Sep 22nd 2015
230
I'm pretty sure he didn't care to improve upon his skillset.
Sep 22nd 2015
231
From all reports, Joe Barry is huge on Discipline
Sep 22nd 2015
233
      Long as Breeland ain't getting burnt for touchdowns
Sep 22nd 2015
235
           I agree, Amerson was always lost
Sep 22nd 2015
236
Another winner from the Genius of Shanaclan.
Sep 22nd 2015
232
Will Blackmon better
Sep 22nd 2015
234
Eh, I liked dude, but he did gamble too much.
Sep 22nd 2015
237
i like the ruthlessness they are growing here.
Sep 22nd 2015
238
Welp. Back to Earth
Sep 25th 2015
239
Soul 2 Soul
Sep 25th 2015
240
There is only ever bad Kirk
Sep 25th 2015
241
Gruden going down with the Kirk ship.
Sep 25th 2015
242
      You could tell Morris wasn't happy too
Sep 25th 2015
243
           You don't run the rook on the 1yd line when you got Alf on the team....
Sep 25th 2015
244
Couple things here
Sep 25th 2015
245
      RE: Couple things here
Sep 25th 2015
246
           ^ ^ ^
Sep 25th 2015
247
           Yerp. That team is undisciplined because of him.
Sep 26th 2015
253
Fun stats with everyone's favorite back up QB
Sep 25th 2015
248
One of the analytics sights on Cousins
Sep 25th 2015
249
      where's the dude who was posting all the advanced stats on Bob?
Sep 25th 2015
250
How can Gruden go to sleep at night...
Sep 25th 2015
251
Gruden is a liar flat out. He hasn't made one factual statement all year...
Sep 25th 2015
252
where is that dude who was yapping about Cousins in every RG3 thread?
Sep 28th 2015
254
i think Kirk has until the bye week
Sep 28th 2015
255
Will the media still be running to Shanahan for comment?
Sep 28th 2015
256
      all i know is Kyle is ballin' in ATL
Sep 28th 2015
257
           It's been three games
Sep 28th 2015
258
                what if Scot McLovin' really is an evil genius
Sep 28th 2015
259
                If this is the case then why smear RGIII in the media?
Sep 28th 2015
260
                     that's more on the media
Sep 28th 2015
262
                          No this is the team's fault.
Sep 28th 2015
267
                               nah, they're keeping him
Sep 28th 2015
270
                                    yeah, the scenario you presented above makes a ton of sense
Sep 28th 2015
274
                                         But Robert is seen as uncoachable now. No. This doesn't make much
Sep 29th 2015
275
                                              Robert is younger and has more upside than most replacement qbs
Sep 29th 2015
277
                                                   RE: Robert is younger and has more upside than most replacement qbs
Sep 29th 2015
278
                                                        iono, i think Jordan Reed's availability makes a huge difference.
Sep 29th 2015
280
                he quit cuz the browns brass was acting crazy.
Sep 28th 2015
268
                     Mediocre is basically the best I can say.
Sep 28th 2015
271
                          he's also 35 years old
Sep 28th 2015
272
                          no doubt. he very well may be a jerk with no character.
Sep 28th 2015
273
Cousins is the backup for a reason.
Sep 28th 2015
261
      Kirk's getting eaten up too out here
Sep 28th 2015
263
           I ain't heard as much venom for real
Sep 28th 2015
264
           you hear what you want to hear
Sep 28th 2015
265
           kirk doesnt give off nearly as many dumb quotables as Bob.
Sep 28th 2015
269
                Gruden lacks accountability.
Sep 29th 2015
276
           Not by Gruden he isn't.
Sep 28th 2015
266
                By what you just said its not going to happen. If Gruden is his biggest
Sep 29th 2015
279
Lauvao and Justin Rogers to the IR
Sep 29th 2015
281
They can just put Bob at DB
Sep 29th 2015
282
RE: They can just put Bob at DB
Sep 29th 2015
284
Damn. Losing Lauvao is a big blow.
Sep 29th 2015
283
he was garbage last year but Lauvao was playing well this year.
Sep 30th 2015
285
      yes...the youth movement is nice to see
Sep 30th 2015
286
IS THIS REAL LIFE
Oct 04th 2015
287
Yeah till next week. lol
Oct 04th 2015
288
this team is gritty. and actually worth watching.
Oct 05th 2015
289
      I am scared about Atlanta. Our safeties suck. Julio Jones has been beast...
Oct 05th 2015
294
At Home vs Philly
Oct 05th 2015
290
Them safeties are a real big problem.
Oct 05th 2015
291
      About those sacks, I was talking to someone else about this
Oct 05th 2015
292
           kerrigan looks still hurt/getting healthy and its slowing him down
Oct 05th 2015
293
Good, Mediocre, and Terrible Kirk all in the same day
Oct 11th 2015
295
I couldn't believe Chris Cooley said this on the radio this morning
Oct 12th 2015
296
lol.
Oct 12th 2015
297
Cooley is a fucking jerk.
Oct 12th 2015
299
yeah, Kirk missed throws all game. but had moments where he
Oct 12th 2015
298
This is what I don't get
Oct 12th 2015
302
      yeah, kirk has pretty much taken the blame for the pick.
Oct 13th 2015
307
O line ain't giving none of them any holes.
Oct 12th 2015
300
Because teams are now stacking the box daring Cousins to beat them
Oct 12th 2015
301
      also i think the rushing #s were inflated a bit
Oct 12th 2015
303
I didn't see any of the game
Oct 13th 2015
304
      The D-Line and LB's let Freeman run wild....
Oct 13th 2015
305
Kirk motivates the troops
Oct 13th 2015
306
damn
Oct 13th 2015
310
That's the weakest thing i've ever seen
Oct 14th 2015
314
The narrative of "We cannot blame Kirk for nothing" is amazing
Oct 13th 2015
308
I've heard him blamed quite a bit
Oct 13th 2015
312
what a fucking tool
Oct 13th 2015
313
      The only thing I can guess is access
Oct 14th 2015
315
           Nah. He's just a fucking jerk.
Oct 14th 2015
316
                I dunno I enjoy his commentary
Oct 14th 2015
317
                     Good for you.
Oct 14th 2015
318
Jamison Crowder. Duke University Football.
Oct 13th 2015
309
love that guy
Oct 13th 2015
311
According to SI reporter, Jay Gruden is a Top 10 coach
Oct 15th 2015
320
that's dope
Oct 15th 2015
321
Between that J. Law Gif and the Japanese robot
Oct 15th 2015
322
lolol
Oct 15th 2015
323
I feel like you don't have to watch sports anymore to be a reporter.
Oct 15th 2015
324
A top 10 coach? With a 2-3 record? Ok....
Oct 15th 2015
325
Kirk Cousin's biggest skeptic (lank)
Oct 16th 2015
326
both he and Steinberg have good points
Oct 16th 2015
327
I'm just off this shit now man.
Oct 16th 2015
328
All the points he made is not only about the media per se
Oct 17th 2015
329
      all of that.
Oct 18th 2015
330
our offense is terrible.
Oct 18th 2015
331
Dude the team is terrible.
Oct 18th 2015
332
Fully healthy I think we are safely mediocre
Oct 18th 2015
333
      what was the defense's excuse today?
Oct 18th 2015
335
           Not Kirk fault
Oct 18th 2015
336
           they were the only reason we were in the game in the first half
Oct 18th 2015
337
                Naw. They got exposed by the run game again.
Oct 18th 2015
338
                lol
Oct 18th 2015
339
                     where did our 13-10 lead come from at halftime?
Oct 19th 2015
345
                          dude got a point...
Oct 19th 2015
349
                          the TOP at the end of the game was 32 min to 27 min
Oct 19th 2015
352
                               I didn't say the defense played particularly well
Oct 19th 2015
353
Three out of five linemen out.....
Oct 18th 2015
334
Kirk could murder Jay Gruden's mom and Jay would still start him.
Oct 19th 2015
340
Tommy Boy's post game Cousins quotes were gold this week.
Oct 19th 2015
341
he should be fired:
Oct 19th 2015
343
He is tied to him at this point
Oct 19th 2015
342
      Could Gruden get fired on the bye week?
Oct 19th 2015
346
           I think only if he is defiant about a QB switch
Oct 19th 2015
348
jason reid is too fucking funny
Oct 19th 2015
344
That dude is a clown
Oct 19th 2015
347
Monday morning QB show right?
Oct 19th 2015
350
      that and the show with chris paul
Oct 19th 2015
351
Must Listen: Bomani on the Man cave (10/20)
Oct 20th 2015
354
Reid should never call RG3 dumb for being socially unaware.
Oct 20th 2015
355
You should listen to Bomani's show from yesterday.
Oct 20th 2015
356
RE: You should listen to Bomani's show from yesterday.
Oct 20th 2015
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      Here is his podcast link
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           He said he don't trust DC media. LOL
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                Spoiler for Ausar
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                The way he dissected Jason Reid was surgical
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Bomani TALKING ABOUT IT....
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btw
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I just don't get why it's so contentious...
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      right?
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      Local media and the coach make it contentious.
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           The thing about Gruden that irks me the most
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                there's probably 8 layers of politics behind that
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damn...Bomani dropped that ether.
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Great analysis in the Washington Post about the run game (link)
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biggest comeback in franchise history and no one posts about it?
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Its strong for me.
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I'm with you
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that's the long and short of it
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      if you can't at least take some measure of joy in that comeback
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           never said that
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                more of a general statement
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                     don't worry your little head about how other fans feel.
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i agree to all of that
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Even a broken clock....yada yada yada....
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So umm...How do we feel about this win? Good? Bad?
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pure roller coaster of emotions
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mad. they just gon draft a fat ass lineman with the 12 pick.
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waiting to hear KB's reaction to this.
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Yeah...they are.
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Winning never sucks. Especially when you win that way.
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      RE: Winning never sucks. Especially when you win that way.
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      RE: Winning never sucks. Especially when you win that way.
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           the truth of the matter is
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                He is *easily* demonstrably worse than half of the QBs in the league.
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                     RE: He is *easily* demonstrably worse than half of the QBs in the league...
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                          He's turnover prone and has huge limitations downfield.
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                               and turnover prone is an understatement
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                               Right, I'm totally fine if people said QB isn't their *biggest* problem.
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                                    include all the bigs and never evers you want
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                                         We're comparing 27 year old Kirk... to 23 year old Peyton?
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                                              yeah
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                                                   edit, because LOL
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                                                        as I said, that comparison is weak
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                                                             Why is the jury out on Kirk tho?
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                                                                  he's done some pretty cool things this year
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                                                                       he is exactly what every scout on the planet said he would be
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                                                                            But Peyton Manning tho
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                                                                            oh I'm with you man I don't think he's special either
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                                                                                 definitely
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                               Like I said - middle of the pack
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                                    Name all of the starting QBs you'd take Kirk over.
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                                         RE: Name all of the starting QBs you'd take Kirk over.
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                                              You just named four non-starters.
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                                              This argument for/against Kirk has been entertaining for sure.
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                                              I'd take Kirk over Taylor and Mariota
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                                              wait, you just said you'd take KC over Bridgewater? FOH
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                                                   I'm actually not the one who brought up 21 starts
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      Half these positions you named we don't even have a real problem with.
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           Word? I honestly think everyone on the Defense sucks except
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                Everyone on Defense sucks now? Wow
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                     I didn't say they're expendable, but come on
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                          Its still a process though
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If nothing else, we got one of the greatest Vines of the season out of t...
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they canceled 'The Man Cave'
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because it sucked
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      ^ this right here
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Should we start a second half of the season post?
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YES
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Dae021
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1. "Preseason Week 2 @ home against the Lions"
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- Griff got blown up
- We lost a starting special teamer after he got blasted and blew his ACL out.
- First team O looks a mess, and the first rounder who was drafted as a tackle looks bad as a guard after moving inside.
- Colt nor KC are lighting the world on fire. They're better pocket passers than Griff, but neither is really showing me anything more against the 3rd stringers than the other.

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2. "they have a GM who might finally build a foundation."
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now like Buffalo, the Jets and a bunch of other teams, they need a QB, because Griff ain't it.

Some is his fault, a lot isn't. But it's his fourth year and he still struggles with dumping the ball off to the RB.

  

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3. "I was SCREAMING in the bar last night on a 3rd and 5"
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There was a post route and 2 digs on the inside, back heel hits on the 3rd step that ball is supposed to come out. It never does, and he's slow moving to his next read. He then gets killed.

There's a problem here.

Get out the room,
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4. "he can't read defenses and make decisions on the fly"
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it's over. It's a real shame to say so, but it's a wrap.

  

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5. "I think a bigger problem is pocket awareness"
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situation awareness, and general decision making.

But it's moot, whether it's this or reading defenses, the outlook is pretty bare.

  

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6. "Didn't see the game."
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Been out of town and missed it.

Is it really that bleak?

  

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7. "the starting offense was literally hard to watch. "
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some blame griff, others the o-line, others credit a stout detroit defense.

regardless, the first team was overwhelmed big time.


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"To face that guy twice a year is going to be a headache. He takes away from your enthusiasm for the game a little bit." Justin Tuck on (rookie-year) RG3

  

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8. "I am glad GMSM is making Gruden stick with Robert"
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Tue Aug-25-15 04:22 PM by Awburn

          

Whether he should be playing and practicing this soon after a concussion is debatable.

But the only way to end this issue once and for all is to play him and let him scrape by with some progress, or fail hard without any doubts.

Then at the end of the year you make your decision. Restructure Bob and keep him for another 3-4 years or resign Kirk who will likely want to stay in an offense in which he's familiar and shown to be capable.

Aborting the "Robert is our guy" strategy after one atrocious quarter would have been cowardly and dishonest.

Separating the GM/Coach powers allows for this kind of stability to occur.

Props to the team for sucking it up and getting through this.

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9. "I wish there wasn't just so much focus on Robert. "
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There are other problems with the team that need fixing just as bad. Everybody wants to focus on whether he is the QB of the future or not when there were other aspects of the team that were all time historically bad. Lets focus on on the defense and special teams. No part of this team last season was serviceable. NONE! Focusing on Robert's successes and failures takes away from the rest of the team. To me, this is just as much about Gruden as it is about Robert.

  

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11. "there are sooo many holes on this team."
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next year's draft, they could take almost any position other than RB, they way things are right now.

The org is working hard to avoid a qb controversy and that will limit distractions overall. in a way, by sticking with robert, they put the focus on the other parts.

other than the D line, WRs, and RBs, the rest of the positions are up in the air. once the real games start, those guys are gonna get keyed in on more at least locally.


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10. "#10 has to come up 295 this weekend. I wish him luck"
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.

<---
Fuck a sig, my presence is enough.

  

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12. "junior gallette tore his achilles today... (swipe)"
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was getting ready to play for the first time this weekend at Bmore.

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13. "damn"
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.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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14. "Ugh talk about bad luck"
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15. "whatever"
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These bammas are still destined for 2-14

  

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Awburn
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16. "it wont be that bad. also here is the swipe that i left out above..."
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right now, i'm thinking 2-4 for the first few games until robert is benched and then 5-5 the rest of the way.

this gives smith and murphy PT they wouldnt have gotten and preps them for next year when the team can make a jump towards competence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/junior-galette-eager-to-validate-the-chance-redskins-took-is-out-for-season/2015/08/26/812e8a62-4c35-11e5-902f-39e9219e574b_story.html


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"To face that guy twice a year is going to be a headache. He takes away from your enthusiasm for the game a little bit." Justin Tuck on (rookie-year) RG3

  

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17. "what a wasted 2nd rnd pick"
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>murphy

  

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18. "Who hasn't been a wasted pick?"
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Outside of maybe three players (Trent Williams, Alfred Morris, Ryan Kerrigan) who has Washington picked that hasn't underachieved?

  

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Awburn
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19. "thats a bit harsh. he's good at stopping the run. "
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he was undersized last year and reports are he is bigger and faster in year two. They lost Rak and have someone young and reasonably priced to replace him. We'll see how it goes, but its not like he's devin thomas/malcom kelly status yet.


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23. "at least he's on the roster and might get playing time"
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But just because it wasn't one of Cerrato's all-time failures, doesn't mean it wasn't a bad pick and bad value.

  

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Awburn
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25. "i just think its too early to judge."
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the fact that they drafted p. smith was already a bad sign. smith appears to have the edge in being the starter opposite Kerrigan, so that's bad too.

Not that Bruce Allen should get the benefit of the doubt, but but imma give him 3 years before i say it was a bust.

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smutsboy
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27. "even if he servicable"
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it was a reach at the time, and yet another OLB for this team.

how many do they need to draft?

  

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20. "3-13. Gruden Fired. Griffin gone. #2 overall pick next year."
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21. "5-11. Gruden gets final 3rd year to prove himself with qb of his choice"
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______________________________________________________________________________

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22. "Man Gruden is a loser. "
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I'ma put my stocks in it right now. Gruden will not have an 8-8 team in his tenure.

He is a horrible leader of men. I see it. The whole team is gonna suffer because of it. Its not about RG3 anymore in my eyes. I got to see progress from everybody. If there is no effective unit out there this season, then that is on him.

  

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26. "Agreed. The team has no identity. "
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With good leaders you see something consistently.

With some guys you hire, you know the team is always going to be disciplined....

Or have a great defense....

Or have a great offense....

Or they aren't going to commit petty penalties...

Gruden hasn't put his stamp anywhere on this team. Don't expect him to.
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24. "5-11. Gruden rightfully put out of his misery."
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RG3 benched or traded by next August.

GMSM is giving everyone a 1 year cushion before he cleans house the way he should.

  

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28. "I'm blown away by the ineptitude "
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You start the off season telling everyone that Griffin is the starter only to take the first opportunity to dump him and show your entire locker room that your word means nothing.

A dude who has a shakey standing with the locker rroom to begin with is going to prove to everyone that he's not a leader.

Everyone has to go.

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29. " I'm as embarrassed as the next fan, but there's a visible difference "
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between the way Griffin tries and fails to run the offense and the pseudo-competent manner in which Cousins and McCoy run the offense.

Lest we all forget, Griffin is the one who refused to run Shanahan's custom offense years back. (Griffin is as oblivious as the morons who drafted him. He got everything he ever wanted and failed. That's an objective statement.)

Years from now the scorecard will show that Washington employed an unprecedented number of assholes in such a short six year window of time.

Cerrato
McNabb
Haynesworth
Shanahan
Griffin
Gruden

It's a record run of ill-qualified, tone deaf, egomaniacal LOSERS; shit runs down hill.

  

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30. "v v v v "
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>Years from now the scorecard will show that Washington
>employed an unprecedented number of assholes in such a short
>six year window of time.
>
>Cerrato
>McNabb
>Haynesworth
>Shanahan
>Griffin
>Gruden
>
>It's a record run of ill-qualified, tone deaf, egomaniacal
>LOSERS; shit runs down hill.
>

  

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32. "LMFAO"
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goddamn yall make being a skins fan sound bleak

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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34. "Dude, the fatigue is palpable....."
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....I noticed myself not even really paying attention to any off season moves or preseason games cause following this team just makes you weary.
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45. "dude, it is"
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91. "RG 2 and 3 were right though, he's not built to run that offense long te..."
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>Lest we all forget, Griffin is the one who refused to run
>Shanahan's custom offense years back. (Griffin is as oblivious
>as the morons who drafted him. He got everything he ever
>wanted and failed. That's an objective statement.)

Best case was the Shannahan's slowly working in more pocket passing over the course of RG's career, but that would've required RG withstanding the physical punishment long enough to make the transition.

Of course, Mike would've needed to be less shady and stopped secretly undercutting Griffin in the media because of his relationship with Snyder. Maybe Griffin would've trusted Mike a little more if Shanny had been more trustworthy.

Anyway, egos ultimately doomed the whole situation

<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->

  

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31. "They gave griff every chance to win the job"
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and he repeatedly fails his teammates

he never defended the oline's play in the detroit game and that's gotta cause some teammates to give him the side eye. his leadership skills suck.

his handling of every single media situation is a cotdamn joke. his quote about coach wanting him to just be basic...

i mean good lord, its even more absurd now. ninja, can you just check down without getting blown up or fumble sacking every once in awhile?

If Kirk and Colt weren't demonstrably better at running the offense, it would be different. (doesnt matter whether K & C are actually good at it... but they are definitely better than bob).

Gruden has to support the rest of the team by moving on and by reinforcing that the best players will play regardless of status.

They gave griff every opportunity to show and prove and he continues to fail his team.

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33. "No, he can't"
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>can you just check down

  

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35. "I think you're misunderstanding what i'm saying"
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I have NO PROBLEM with them dumping Griff. NONE, he's played terribly, he's an even worse person in front of the Cameras.

Despite ALL of that, the manner in which this organization has gone about the switch is just down right embarrassing. Griff got every opportunity to win the job, and honestly has played terrible and doesn't deserve the job. JUST COME OUT AND SAY IT.

These reports of concussions, leaks to the media about trying to trade him, but Snyder won't let them, the leaks about wanting to cut him, but Snyder won't let them.

Back and forth, back and forth. Just choose a position and go. Stop the fucking circus. As bad as Griffin is in basically every situation other than winning, I don't know a figure that's been treated like this. Even when he says the right thing, folks take out some words and make it the wrong thing. Then he got RAKED for it.

Even still this is less about him and more about the way we conduct business. Other teams cut troubled players and let you work eveyrthing else out, why is it that the media is literally in our senior staff meetings and knows everything before the players do.

This is a shitshow and i'm tired man, I'm so fucking tired.

Ya'll got me thinking of going to White Hart Lane to watch the Spurs play. This shit is old dog.

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36. "It's the Snyder way"
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>Stop the fucking circus.

he's a shitty football CEO. bad management. undermining people. leaks. politics. media circus.

it all starts with him. It's clear as day.

  

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38. "You won't ever have a winner this way, ever"
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This shit is just tiring dog. I'm just over this whole set up.

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37. "Dude, i was just saying this the other day...."
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If they aren't going to put full faith in him like Gruden promised this past spring, just end it. Rip the bandaid off and let it be done.

And for real, who in the hell is leaking all this crap to the press? I thought Cerrato was bad, but I'm thinking Bruce Allen might be sinking ships, nahmean?

This media circus is making following this team very tiring. EVERY year there is something going on with this team outside of just playing some damn football. Always some controversy, and no has the balls or the good sense to stop the shenanigans.


>I have NO PROBLEM with them dumping Griff. NONE, he's played
>terribly, he's an even worse person in front of the Cameras.
>
>Despite ALL of that, the manner in which this organization has
>gone about the switch is just down right embarrassing. Griff
>got every opportunity to win the job, and honestly has played
>terrible and doesn't deserve the job. JUST COME OUT AND SAY
>IT.
>
>These reports of concussions, leaks to the media about trying
>to trade him, but Snyder won't let them, the leaks about
>wanting to cut him, but Snyder won't let them.
>
>Back and forth, back and forth. Just choose a position and go.
>Stop the fucking circus. As bad as Griffin is in basically
>every situation other than winning, I don't know a figure
>that's been treated like this. Even when he says the right
>thing, folks take out some words and make it the wrong thing.
>Then he got RAKED for it.
>
>Even still this is less about him and more about the way we
>conduct business. Other teams cut troubled players and let you
>work eveyrthing else out, why is it that the media is
>literally in our senior staff meetings and knows everything
>before the players do.
>
>This is a shitshow and i'm tired man, I'm so fucking tired.
>
>Ya'll got me thinking of going to White Hart Lane to watch the
>Spurs play. This shit is old dog.


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39. "At this point its either Allen or Snyder himself"
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I just don't get the level of leaks that happen here. If there's only 4 people in a room for a meeting, how does the press have access to what was said by 11AM? HOW SWAY???!!!

I think that whole Griff is the starter was Snyder's thing. Or at least at this point it looks that way.

Dog are we going to be a team that's destined to be abysmal as long as Snyder is alive? If so man, I don't even know.

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48. "i guess. but like robert, the skins are just clickbait at this point."
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i get the frustration tho. its wearying. but someone could report just about anything related to dan snyder meddling or confusion within the organization and people would believe it.

i actually give credit to gruden for speaking out on it saturday when he said that he knows we think he's incompetent re handling the RG3 concussion, but it just happened to be a cluster F of a situation.

he quickly came out today and said Kirk is the starter. that was needed.

Cutting robert is the next step. hopefully GMSM is down with it now that he has seen the nonsense up close.

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62. "Yeah I think Gruden is incompetent "
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>
>i actually give credit to gruden for speaking out on it
>saturday when he said that he knows we think he's incompetent
>re handling the RG3 concussion, but it just happened to be a
>cluster F of a situation.

Its not just his handling of Robert that makes him incompetent though. He's actually not the offensive guru he thinks he is. And he is horrible at accountability outside of his QBs. But that is gonna come out too eventually.

  

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41. "Hmm....."
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I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out that he lied about his concussion report. Its gotta be something that was the last straw for them to turn turncoat like that. I don't see making all these promises to dude and reneging on them.

  

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43. "between being hurt and not owning his mistakes, it all adds up"
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to it just being time to move on.

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55. "I'd feel better about this reply if they didn't make promises to Robert."
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If they felt like this then why put all this press out about how well he is doing in preseason? Why automatically name him a starter? It just should have been an open competition. I have a problem with folks who ain't straight up honest. Not to say Robert held up his end, but just be honest about it yo. This is bad business.

  

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69. "coaches have to lie a little bit. "
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when shanahan swore that john beck was serviceable, it was a lie. but that was the talent he was dealing with and what is the alternative? Say publically that they traded for a bum who will be out of the league shortly?

same thing with robert. now apparently he actually did look decent in practice. but it never translated into the games. so between his actual play and inability to stfu, i think they said what they had to say until it was obvious there was no other choice.

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71. "They didn't have to commit to him at all."
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Didn't have to pick up his contract, and definitely didn't have to commit to him as a starter right away. Coaches might have to fan away some smoke, but in his case, they didn't have to approach it the way they did.

  

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83. "GMSM came in and said early that he like robert's potential"
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and then picked up his contract. That put gruden in a position where he either toes the line or is insubordinate. he had no choice but to build up robert publicly.

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90. "He had a choice to an open competition. He didn't do that. "
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Doesn't matter though now. Semantics at this point. I hope Robert knows his career is effectively over. Really difficult for QBs to bounce back. And with the fundamentals he is missing, it will be difficult for a team to take a flier on him. Someone will though but he only has one shot and unfortunately I don't see how he makes it.

  

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81. "he's BEEN #1; tried psychology this year..."
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>If they felt like this then why put all this press out about
>how well he is doing in preseason? Why automatically name him
>a starter? It just should have been an open competition. I
>have a problem with folks who ain't straight up honest. Not to
>say Robert held up his end, but just be honest about it yo.
>This is bad business.

gave him the Stuart Smalley treatment so he'd hopefully really feel like "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me."

After all that?
-"I don't have to prove anything to anybody, I know I'm the best QB on this team"
-"Maaaan, I just work here"

Stop making catch-phrases Robert.
-he made "Talk Small, Play Big"

did neither, fin.

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56. "they owe him $16 Mill if he's injured out of the season"
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everyone saw in those early preseason games that he's completely incapable of protecting himself.

I think they saw how lost he was and then he suffered a concussion and they were forced to make a change; had he been injured out of the season this year they would've had to fork over a fortune for a guy who isn't even the best at his position on his own team.

It's smart if shrewd business. The kind of smart and shrewd business the Steelers, Patriots, and Giants have practiced forever.

  

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40. "kirk named starter for the season"
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skins have real faith in kirk, he earned it.

  

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42. "Goodbye Robert. It was nice knowing you."
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2012 was a good year. Too bad you couldn't build off of it. Too much too fast.

On a more serious note, this is bad business. How can any franchise player put any trust in this team? Dan is a poor businessman.

  

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44. "Kirk isn't the answer. He showed us that last year."
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Sorry it hasn't worked out for Griffin. He showed such promise.

Here comes another shitty season, hooray!!!

  

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46. "lol"
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>skins have real faith in kirk, he earned it.

He "earned it" by not being as terrible as Bob sure, but if anyone thinks this team has any faith in anything or any one, I have a bridge to sell you.

  

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53. "I keep saying: You all alone in these streets, Cousins!"
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-every man for himself, in this land we be gunnin'.

He'll get yanked for Colt during his first three pick game.

>>skins have real faith in kirk, he earned it.
>
>He "earned it" by not being as terrible as Bob sure, but if
>anyone thinks this team has any faith in anything or any one,
>I have a bridge to sell you.


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47. "I'm in chicago so we can't talk. But eff is wrong with yall"
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Every year yall media shitstorm is horrid

  

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49. " But eff is wrong with yall....... Everything."
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the answer is everything.

  

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50. "Kirk's Team"
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.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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51. "Kirk's Team will suck just as bad as Robert's Team. "
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I'm not even looking forward to watching this shit show at all.

  

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54. "I doubt McClouhan thinks Cousins is a real answer"
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but I do think if nothing else it's a major step forward symbolically. Sounds like this decision was made primarily by Gruden and McClouhan, then sold to dickhead Allen and Dan Snyder.

The fact this is even happening is progress.

Take what you can get. See the forest from the trees. Cousins' ceiling is 6 wins. But for the first time in 13 years a committee of football people made a football decision. Fans should take solace in that, no matter how obvious the decision was.

  

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52. "CAPTAIN KIRK WHOO-RIDE"
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I'm widdit

  

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57. "his first two games are at home. "
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Albeit against tough D-lines but, still, at home in presumably nice weather. We'll know pretty early in the season what he's made of.

  

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58. "he's made of interceptions. "
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138. "lol"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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61. "We already know what he is made of. "
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At this point, the test isn't about Kirk, its about the rest of the team.

  

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72. "agreed."
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And I think there's more talent there than there's been in a while.

  

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86. "EXACTLY. "
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HE WET THE BED LAST YEAR. WE KNOW WHAT STUFF HE'S GOT. THE FACT THAT COLT MCCOY IS BETTER SAYS A LOT. EFF THE SKINS THIS YEAR. MY WIFE'S TEAM AND ALL BUT YUCK... BROTHER JAY SAYS YUCK.

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59. "Cousins blows. Period"
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He's a mental midget.

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60. "and the better option is..."
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63. "RGIII"
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He is being scapegoated by an inept coach. Everybody rolling with Kirk is going to be on the wrong side of how this will play out in the long run.


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64. "unfortunately, i agree with you. he's still our best option at this poi..."
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as bad as that may be.

  

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88. "sHYT! IF RGIII'S COACH GAVE A SHIT"
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AND MADE THE O LINE GIVE A SHIT... THEY'D WIN MORE GAMES.

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89. "Griffin sacked 10 times per 1 attempt. Cousins 26 to 1 attempt."
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behind same O-line last year.

  

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92. "You ever notice the play calling differences? "
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95. "FWIW, cooley swears its the same plays called for each QBs"
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KC just runs them better.

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98. "You ever notice how many open WRs Griffin misses?"
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plays shmays, Griffin consistently gets himself sacked missing wide open targets

  

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100. "i feel like if Garcon had caught that one easy TD pass"
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Maybe that's the sliding door that would've changed this whole preseason for Robert. Outside of the organization or his own hubris, dude just has bad luck.

  

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102. "Nah.....That probably wouldn't have changed much. "
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If they wanted Robert to stick around they would have found a reason to keep him. That one play, while critical, would not have changed their overall stance about him. They got enough tape to make a decision on him.

  

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119. "ever notice that the pocket closes in on him "
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quicker than any other QB on his team. Ever notice that the coach kept him in mad long during the loind game, to where he first got the concussion that kept him out of the 4th game...

Ever notice that he jumps in the pocket because he doubts that his protection will be there and rushes plays because he doesn't have protection.

Ever notice that on other teams the O line gets bettter around their starting QB... especially the year he comes back from an ACL...

Hmm, guess not.

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74. "have you watched the preseason though?"
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75. "what did RGIII do to prove he's better than Kirk Cousins"
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the answer: nothing

  

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77. "bottom line is, we don't have a true starting NFL qb. "
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we had one when he was a rookie, but that player is long gone.

  

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105. "Lead the team to the playoffs. "
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106. "3 years ago, running an offense he now refuses to run."
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He's ruined his goodwill here. Not saying Cousins is a markedly better alternative, but Griffin acted like a brat and then sucked.

  

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120. "let's also not forget the role that Cousins played in that playoff run"
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154. "*gets in line right here*"
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Do it girl

  

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66. "9-7"
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"To face that guy twice a year is going to be a headache. He takes away from your enthusiasm for the game a little bit." Justin Tuck on (rookie-year) RG3

  

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67. "hol' up, you think the Skins will go 9-7 this year?"
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68. "point out the wins......"
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

  

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70. "split the division games plus 6 more wins"
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Mia, STL, NYJ, TB, CAR, Buff.

one of these teams will be better than expected, but another team (atl, NFC east, chi) will be worse. So 9-7, high end projection.

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73. "We got Joe Barry as a DC"
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And our special teams is still near bottom on terms of effectiveness. 9 wins is delusional.

  

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76. "absolutely delusional. "
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>9 wins is delusional.

  

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101. "it might be"
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but this made me feel better

http://www.hogshaven.com/2015/8/31/9231873/looks-like-someone-has-a-sixpack-of-the-mondays

  

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85. "special teams are still bad. defense is more talented. "
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we'll see how it plays out.
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"To face that guy twice a year is going to be a headache. He takes away from your enthusiasm for the game a little bit." Justin Tuck on (rookie-year) RG3

  

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87. "Frontline is definitely more talented. "
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Secondary though is still meh. They can't tackle worth a damn. If they get 7 wins I am estatic. Nine is pushing. Especially when there are still big holes to address.

  

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96. "the DBs have been injured. "
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Amerson is still amerson as steve smith showed on Saturday. But i expect culliver, hall and breeland plus marginally stronger play at safety to lead to an improvement.

not a great secondary, just not the trash that was there last year (outside of breeland).

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99. "They still can't tackle. "
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That is a discipline problem.

  

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78. "I'm willing to put money on us going 0-6 in the division"
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I only have us possibly winning against the Jets and the Bucs thats 1 road win and 1 home win for the season.

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84. "nah, joe."
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the team talent-wise and schematically is not two games worse than last year.

5 more wins is an optimistic projection but this team is definitely average.

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82. "Cmon bud."
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65. "Joe Barry is about to have 2 0-16 records under his belt."
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

  

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79. "I came in here to talk about Football but then I saw your avy"
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So I forgot what I was about to ask.

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80. "lmao"
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

  

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104. "Do you know that chick or is that just some internet photo?"
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Get out the room,
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93. "i want this team to fail so bad this year"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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94. "you are in luck"
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97. "no...worse than that, donnie dogg. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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103. "They not gonna fail if you want them to fail this year."
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Your jinxes come a year later.

  

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108. "i think i'm safe here, unless not failing to you is winning a lot"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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107. "im looking fwd to watching them crash & burn AGAIN."
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lol!

every year!

like clockwork. so consistent.


does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
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109. "Is homie really this dumb? SWIPE"
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Robert Griffin III can’t control his social media, blames the intern

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Who says deposed Washington quarterback Robert Griffin III doesn’t make quick decisions, or good ones.

Last night, via SB Nation, his official Instagram account liked a post on the social media site which ripped the team, its “sorry ass team owner” and “sorry ass front office,” and included the only-in-Washington hashtag #ImpeachDanSnyder.

Of course, this made a splash, because lord knows anything the man says or does in the wake of being benched will.

But he came around later and “unlike” the photo, with his own post blaming an intern and backing away from responsibility, under a large photo saying “I just wanted to set the record straight.”

“I did not “like” that IG post ridiculing our team,” he wrote. “I have not been social media active consistently for awhile now and am ultra-focused on working to get back on the field and trying to help this team. One of our interns who helps with Instagram liked the post. As soon as I was made aware of it, it was immediately unliked. That is not how I feel and I appreciate your understanding.”

So he doesn’t hate his employer, but he does run and put his name on an operation designed for brand promotion that doesn’t always do things coherently and consistently, and is willing to chunk a lesser-paid individual under the bus if need be.

Come to think of it, that might be why he lost his day job as well.

That had to be a mistake, there is NO WAY he's that dumb and tone deaf. NO WAY

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110. "I'm floored"
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I never thought he'd turn out to be this dumb.

  

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115. "he has a masters and finished undergrad in 3 years"
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but has no idea he's a public figure.

Get rid of this dork.

  

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117. "i can't even call it at this point. This is like new level stupid"
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Even if this shit happened by accident, why would you even do that. This is like getting lit at the company christmas party and then telling everyone you hate Richard (the boss) while he's right behind you.

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111. "aye yay yay"
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Dude still has no idea about proper PR or controlling a message

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113. "lmao"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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118. "Sheesh he's stupid. "
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Like really stupid. His behavior is almost like he's on the spectrum.

  

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112. "The Letter L continues to lose"
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talking about: "the thirst of that city would tear that dude's ACL"

LOL

this level of ineptitude hasn't been seen since the Matt Millen Lions

  

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114. "we hired their DC"
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>the Matt Millen Lions

just sayin

  

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116. "^^^ NEVER FORGET"
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>talking about: "the thirst of that city would tear that
>dude's ACL"
>
>LOL
>
>this level of ineptitude hasn't been seen since the Matt
>Millen Lions
>
>

Motherfucker came through shitting on Cleveland and cysed the Washington team something fierce. It turns out the Shanahan treating RG3 like a running back hurt RG3's career. It didn't help things by hiring a coach who threw RG3 under the bus the first chance he got.

  

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187. "IN THE FIRST SEASON"
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>Motherfucker came through shitting on Cleveland and cysed the
>Washington team something fierce. It turns out the Shanahan
>treating RG3 like a running back hurt RG3's career. It didn't
>help things by hiring a coach who threw RG3 under the bus the
>first chance he got.

see, that was in the height of the NBA Death Star (Heat) bullshit
and that Cloak of LeFavre had jabronis totally disregarding 20 years of NFL football over it

yeah, the expansion Browns are bullshit because they can't pick or get in position to get a good QB despite the wack records

but don't hold up the Washington Football Team up as a "better" team
they are at WORST equal.

the only break they had was that one season they brought back Joe Gibbs and the Mark Brunell Ether Campaign

  

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121. "So I guess the mystery behind how all this information is leaking is sol..."
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The GM is trading dome for leaks amd GMSM's wife is the one that's been tweeting it.

Blacksports online has the story.

I cant even believe this shit at this point.

Never been a better time to be a Cowboys fan from DC (aka the worst type)

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122. "they tried to deny the shit and then got caught LOL"
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they got caught by fuckin black sports online.

this shit is too good.

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2015/09/redskins-gms-wife-tweets-espn-reporter-used-oral-sex-to-get-scoops/
www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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123. "Wow....Can it get any worse? "
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Can it get any more dysfunctional? Can this franchise be on an episode of ballers?

  

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127. "no one would believe it! all that shit in one season?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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140. "and the season hasn't even started yet. smh."
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128. "Jay Gruden takes bumps before leading the team..."
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... in the Haka ritual midfield during warmups.

^^ How's that for getting worse?

  

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134. "based on his face, I really wouldn't be surprised if he did"
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just stereotyping on what I see looking in his eyes

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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124. "LOL..yo"
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i KNEW she was a whore. quickly from nbc(4) to espn....LOL.

  

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130. "She'll never live that down whether its true or not. "
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132. "its probably true."
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125. "you couldn't even make this one up"
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The ONE person in the entire front office that has even a single iota of respect (probably b/c he just got here) is being accused of possibly the worst thing you can do, even worse than just being an incompetent coach or owner or team president. It's basically treason.

This is seriously bonkers, I can't even fathom it

  

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126. "LOL, cotdamn"
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What a shit show

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129. "LMAO. I am thoroughly entertained"
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A fuckin circus

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131. "well the outrage started from something obviously "
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for Mrs.Mac to be so pissed that she put it out on Twitter, well, it's probably true to some extant. SOMETHING happened.

Maybe he's a loser too.

I wish the whole team would just quietly drift out to sea at this point.

  

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133. "ALL WE WANT IS LIFE BEYOOOOOND..."
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the Twitter Dome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcm-tOGiva0

>The GM is trading dome for leaks amd GMSM's wife is the one
>that's been tweeting it.
>
>Blacksports online has the story.
>
>I cant even believe this shit at this point.
>
>Never been a better time to be a Cowboys fan from DC (aka the
>worst type)

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170. "^^^ this was fantastic and slept on reply. "
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folks mad all up in the twitter dome.


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135. "They're trying to play this as a sexist attack on a female journalist."
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As if that angle doesn't need you to buy into the sexist 'hysterical wife' stereotype.

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136. "again, this started from something. "
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His wife obviously went about this in the worst of ways, but I'd bet she read a text of some kind. Something's up there.

  

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137. "Yep. Sports media is in 'protect our own' mode, though."
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139. "And they can do this because its not like Washington has much "
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credibility at this point.

  

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141. "She did it, they spinning this thing the best way they can"
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But GMSM put everyone in a fucked up situation. I've been saying for a while now that these leaks had to come from someone who was IN the room. I just couldn't in my wildest dreams imagine it was the brand new GM.

This chick ain't even fly, I get it your wife isn't giving you head anymore, that's part of marriage dog I get it, but young you can't jeopardize it ALL for some head!! He on that Clinton.

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142. "to me, this is like Petraeus and CIA"
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LOL, they were dead wrong. Scot not starting off on a good
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143. "Dude, I hate to admit it, but......"
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>This chick ain't even fly

That is the sole reason I jive believe it's true. She's not fly at all. I'm betting that's been her currency of choice since college to get things in life.

Horrible thing to say, but.....

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144. "haha damn yall, she aint that bad lookin'"
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146. "I mean she's not but....."
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she definitely has angles. And compared to her comp in the female tv journalist game?

C'mon, b.
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152. "Maybe I just catch her on off days when she's reporting"
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But that's not worth risking ti all for.

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147. "I think an official name change is in order right about now."
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148. "^^^^"
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That's a great idea, talk about grabbing control of the narrative, they could change all the headlines with a snap

  

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149. "I hope it comes with an owner change. "
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Seems like that is the only way that name change will happen though.

  

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150. "Washington Rednoses"
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>,RE: I think an official name change is in order right about now.

#clowns

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151. "Washington Teetotalers"
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153. "Washington Headskins"
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155. "I hate this team, the coaches and the protect Kirk Cousins fans"
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News flash - Kirk Cousins isn't a rookie. Why is the head coach going out of his way to protect him in the media. Not only that, Gruden even took a jab at RGIII during the post-game presser yesterday.

For a guy that threw 2 INTs, there sure are a lot of people saying how "well" he played. Kevin Sheehan and Jason Reid (co-founders of the Captain Kirk Fan Club) even did all they could do to NOT place any blame on Kirk. Here is some of what they're selling:

- Cousins almost threw for 200 yards
- He completed 21 passes, we wouldn't have criticized RGIII if he completed 21 passes (love this revisionist history here)
- If RGIII played, the team wouldn't have looked this good. (Looked this good! They scored 10 points, ZERO in the second half.)
- The INTs weren't Cousins' fault (Gruden even went out of his way to say this in the presser. When did he ever give RGIII the benefit of the doubt. Times up, he didn't. Gruden would always say "I have to look at the tape.")

Now, what has happened to all this talent on offense? All the media and fans have been selling this and why RGIII needed to go. But now the goal post has moved. Here is what they are saying now:

- We don't have enough talent on offense to compete.
- We have such a thin margin because we don't have the talent on offense to overcome our deficiencies.
- The play calling was so conservative, they are setting up Cousins to fail.

To add to the fact how this organization is a joke. They had RGIII playing safety on scout teams this week.


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156. "I am avoiding talk radio today. I know what i saw."
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There was some good and some bad.

Kirk has thrown 3 picks in has last two games against starters (incl. preseason). He also made the offensive line look competent by getting rid of the ball and being accurate with his throws. He's a mixed bag which everyone knew. I am not sure Bob could have moved the ball in the first half like Kirk did - only because he gets sacked so often and puts the team in long down and distances. Mostly, all kirk did was find a healthy Jordan Reed...Bob should be able to do that in between runs by Alf and Jones tho. But Gruden went all in on low ceiling kirk so lets give him a few more games to see if he can shake the INT bug.

Gruden kept to his word and committed to the run. That lead to manageable third downs and long drives in the first half. But Gruden had no counter it seemed to what Miami did defensively in the second half. I am not sure Gruden can make second half adjustments at this point.

Losing DJax hurts... but Gruden and McVay MUST be prepared for him to miss time. He's the only speedy wr that gets minutes... he also gets knicked up easily. If you are left with roberts, crowder and grant getting big time you have to be able to adjust your play calling and still be effective.

obviously, those 3rd and 25s were a problem.

The defense looked pretty good. If you hold a team to 10 points, you did your job. They needed to make some of those picks, but overall they look improved.

Special teams is what it is...down two of the their best players, its gonna be hard to replace them.

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171. "this post is absurd"
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You actually watched the game and made unbiased observations.

  

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157. "first, ignore the radio. Second, can't we separate the two QBs?"
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1. Griffin sucks. Let's move on.

2. Cousins probably sucks too, but they at least move the ball better with him; give up fewer sacks, run better, occasionally hit open receivers.


These aren't opinions anymore, they're facts. Just don't get caught up in everyone's bluster. It's as simple as Griffin being done and Cousins not being much better but he's at least an improvement.


We're going 5-11 at best, we're shipping all 3 of these bum QBs off, and probably the head coach is gone too. Just take it for what it is dude.

  

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158. "No way this team wins 5 games"
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160. "I bet they win 6"
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173. "probably not, that's why I said at best"
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159. "a guy can dream"
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>we're shipping all 3 of these bum QBs off, and probably the head coach is gone too.

  

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161. "Cousins is not better than RG3"
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Cousins lead the NFL in play to turnover ratio. Every 28 plays=Turnover/pick

RG3 at least had ball protection going for him.

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163. "they're both pretty bad"
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We don't quite know the extent of Kirk's badness yet.

  

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168. "you are incorrect"
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RG did not start out bad. He is bad by regime. Shanahan tried to kill him. Gruden is purposely trying to injure him (see practice safety.)

When was the last time RGIII had a o line to keep him upright? His skillset and tangibles are much better (see 1st rounder vs 4th rounder). To go with Cousins (after we have seen him wet the entire bed last year- Colt McCoy looked better.) is ridiculous. They don't want to win, they want to show sho is boss. That is all. it's a pissing contest. Aint nothing they are doing about football (or winning).

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169. "that's a flaming #hottake there"
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174. "I'm so tired of this shit. You obviously don't know the story."
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give it up.

  

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204. "He's only been successful in Shannahan's system"
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>RG did not start out bad. He is bad by regime. Shanahan tried
>to kill him. Gruden is purposely trying to injure him (see
>practice safety.)

The Shanny's were clearly shady but they did design a system that RG could be successful in.

RG didn't like that system because he felt it would put him at too much risk. He was right, considering his injuries, but he woulda been better off being gradually groomed into a regular pocket passer under the Shanny's than trying to do it all at once in year 3 with Gruden. He still might've been injured but the gradual learning curve would've allowed him to keep his starting job while he learned.



>When was the last time RGIII had a o line to keep him upright?
>His skillset and tangibles are much better (see 1st rounder vs
>4th rounder). To go with Cousins (after we have seen him wet
>the entire bed last year- Colt McCoy looked better.) is
>ridiculous. They don't want to win, they want to show sho is
>boss. That is all. it's a pissing contest. Aint nothing they
>are doing about football (or winning).

Gruden has really got two bad choices... continuing the exercise in futility with Robert or stomach the highs and lows with Cousins.

Cousins DEFINITELY runs the offense better. He's got a good enough arm to make all the throws, he goes through his progressions and he's a much quicker decision maker. He's also a gambler so there's a good chance all that ball movement amounts to nothing.

At this point, I don't fault Gruden if he thinks it'll be easier to coach some poise into Cousins than pocket-passing skills to Robert... especially when Cousins is better liked by his teammates and gives the media milquetoast.

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167. "What?!?!?!?"
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>
>RG3 at least had ball protection going for him.
I swear I'm not snarking, but what do you mean by that part.

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172. "look at KC turnovers vs RG3 turnovers"
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even on a hobbled leg RG3 didn't turnover the ball as much as a healthy Cousins.

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175. "RG3 fumbles if someone farts near him."
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176. "How would you react if people had free access to fart near you?"
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178. "each QB has his pros/cons"
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The decision was made to increase Kirk's sample size (10 games started after yesterday) to see if he can improve. Kirk moves the ball better than RG3 and makes quicker decisions. But he has the highest TO rate of any QB since NFL 2008 (if I read that stat correctly).

The TOs didn't kill us yesterday, though. Kirk basically game-managed well enough to win the game.

I still think RG3 will get a start this season. We'll see.

  

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162. "I can't remember the last time I saw an o-line hold so much as yesterday"
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That was truly something else. Of course it was called by the refs early and often and all game, so I can't complain too much, but damn. Several times the broadcast showed slow mo replay of all four Fins d-linemen being tackled from behind.
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164. "i can't remember the last time I saw blatant unsportsmanlike conducts mi..."
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i.e. Suh kicking AlMo's helmet off, Suh turning Moses' helmet clean around

  

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165. "RE: i can't remember the last time I saw blatant unsportsmanlike conduct..."
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Actually, you probably saw it the last time you watched Suh play
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166. "lol"
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>Actually, you probably saw it the last time you watched Suh
>play

  

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177. "Forbath was cut today."
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it will be nice to see a few touchbacks with the new guy hopkins

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179. "Rejoice, all our problems are solved! "
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180. "everything is awesome"
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181. "Over/Under, Kirk Cousins 3INT's vs the Rams, what say you?"
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I'm going with 4.

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182. "could care less as long as the Skins win"
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184. "they won't"
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206. "Come again??"
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What was that?

  

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183. "I'll go under with about 2. "
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191. "3 picks. 4 turnovers total from him."
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team scores maybe 6 points.

StL at least 6 sacks.

  

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205. "you lost"
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Try ZERO

  

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227. "I did. Good thing I did."
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185. "After Week 1, How are we feeling?"
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- QB

- Running Game

- Passing Game

- Lines both D & O

- Secondary

- Special Teams (we know Kai got cut and they let a PR for a TD)

- Coaching

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188. "my two cents"
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>- QB

Played just good enough to lose. Not terrible, made some 3rd-down conversions. First pick terrible, second one not totally his fault. He didn't make enough plays to win the game but he wasn't the reason for the loss. Would like to see the playbook open a tad bit more; Gruden blamed the DeSean injury on the lack of downfield looks but there should've been a contingency plan. Poor excuse from the HC.

>- Running Game

AlMo was great, Matt Jones showed promise. Chris Thompson, not sold.

>- Passing Game

Jordan Reed and Garcon came to play. Hope to see either Ross or Crowder running DeSean's routes on Sunday.

>- Lines both D & O

Hatcher finally made some plays. Pretty stingy against the run until the end. Could've had more pressure on Tannehill. OL was way better than expected. High marks.

>- Secondary

Amerson LOL. I thought Duke was really good until he got hurt. Thank god Breeland's back b/c there are some serious threats at WR the next couple weeks

>- Special Teams (we know Kai got cut and they let a PR for a
>TD)

What's new here. Tavon Austin is gonna eat this weekend.

>- Coaching

Some people think we abandoned the run too early—I think "abandon" is a strong verb here but there were a couple of times where we should've run instead of passed. Penalties I think he needs to take part of the blame for.

  

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193. "RE: my two cents"
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>Hatcher finally made some plays. Pretty stingy against the run
>until the end. Could've had more pressure on Tannehill. OL was
>way better than expected. High marks.
>
Sounds like the lines held their own, does anyone think this will be a problem next week against the Rams D? I do.

>>- Secondary
>
>Amerson LOL. I thought Duke was really good until he got hurt.
>Thank god Breeland's back b/c there are some serious threats
>at WR the next couple weeks
>
I was watching Amerson in the pre-season like wow I don't remember him being this poor in the past, but he's really not great now. Breeland has to play and play well because Chris Culliver is sitting teh next game.

>>- Special Teams (we know Kai got cut and they let a PR for a
>>TD)
>
>What's new here. Tavon Austin is gonna eat this weekend.
>

Yes, yes he will.

>>- Coaching
>
>Some people think we abandoned the run too early—I think
>"abandon" is a strong verb here but there were a couple of
>times where we should've run instead of passed. Penalties I
>think he needs to take part of the blame for.

To be fair, they ran teh ball 39 times and threw it only 31. So I don't know if abandon is the right word here. He ran on obvious throwing downs, so I'm not going to put that on the coach just yet.

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192. "in relative or absolute terms?"
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lol

  

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194. "I mean I know how you feel overall"
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I was talking about this past week. I didn't see the game, so i'm just going off of analysis

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196. "honestly I'm probably not going to be watching much this year"
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I caught about 1/3rd of the Dolphins game.

This is maybe the worst roster in the NFL with a coach who will be fired. I'd rather watch good football and have someone wake me up when Snyder sells.

  

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197. "in watching the game last Sunday with Skins fans"
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I said at some point after halftime: "This must be a miserable game to watch for a neutral fan."

The Skins are going to be playing some really ugly football. I think they'll be better than last year but they are a pretty uninspiring bunch of players with a very uninspiring offensive scheme, esp. without DeSean. It may be effective to keep them in games better than last season, but it's certainly not exciting

  

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201. "this is virtually a rock bottom roster"
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As Football Outsiders wrote this year, GMSM's first set of moves were basically what you'd do to stabilize an expansion franchise so that you can actually field a team.

Last Sunday I flipped between good games and WFC/Miami. I was watching WFC on one drive and then they had 3 (or 5?) straight offensive penalties to move out of FG range.

  

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198. "RE: After Week 1, How are we feeling?"
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>- QB

Who cares? None of them will be around next year.
>
>- Running Game

Morris is good.
>
>- Passing Game

We have pretty good WRs who will not see enough of the ball.
>
>- Lines both D & O

O-line was better than advertised against the run. Scherff is good with the cut blocks against Suh. Lol. Passing game is a meh.

D line is beastly though. Easily the best unit on this team. Definitely headed in the right direction defensively.
>
>- Secondary

Better than last year. Need better discipline tackling in space.
>
>- Special Teams (we know Kai got cut and they let a PR for a
>TD)

Weakest link still. No excuse for not addressing this issue.

>- Coaching
Team is undisciplined. Gruden fault. Underperforming QBs are his fault. He made too big of a deal about who the starting QB should be instead of focusing on other parts of the team. Never should have been this big of a deal about who the starting QB should be. Poor leader. Throws shade at his players. Not good at adjustments (kinda like Cousins). He needs to take responsibility for the team soon. There is no more QB controversy to excuse his poor performance thus far. He handpicked the coaching staff and has the QB he wants to mold, no more excuses.

  

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202. "RE: After Week 1, How are we feeling?"
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Sounds like the new running scheme fits this group better than the last. I'll be particularly interested in seeing what plays out this sunday against the Rams D line as they're VERY good.

The D Line is easily the strength of the team, if a team starting eating off the run against us, then we're done for the day.

Still playing undiscplined ball huh? I mean everyone thought all would be fixed once we got rid of Brandon Merriweather. Seems like its still there, and we know Bashaud is going to have to play well, even though he missed a ton of time during pre-season with an injury and then missing week 1. Its not going to be good this week.
>>

>>- Coaching
>Team is undisciplined. Gruden fault. Underperforming QBs are
>his fault. He made too big of a deal about who the starting QB
>should be instead of focusing on other parts of the team.
>Never should have been this big of a deal about who the
>starting QB should be. Poor leader. Throws shade at his
>players. Not good at adjustments (kinda like Cousins). He
>needs to take responsibility for the team soon. There is no
>more QB controversy to excuse his poor performance thus far.
>He handpicked the coaching staff and has the QB he wants to
>mold, no more excuses.

To be fair we need to give Gruden and Kirk more than a week. If by mid way through the season we're seeing the same mistakes, its time to throw Kirk to the wolves.

His lack of mid-game adjustments is what's really troubling to me. Moreso than some of the other stuff, that's the look of a less than competent coach. I'm not asking dude to be Bellicheck and have an entirely different game plan from half to half, but dog you've got to do something.

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186. "And now the local press is shitting on D. Jackson"
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SMH.....

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View Photos DeSean Jackson pulled his hamstring running this deep pass route in the first quarter of the season’s first game.

By Jerry Brewer Columnist September 15 at 12:11 PM

For now, the concern is whether the Washington Redskins’ offense can cope without DeSean Jackson.

For the future, however, the concern is whether the team can move forward with him.

Jackson presents a complicated case, as usual, a player so essential in the present yet so incompatible with the franchise’s long-term direction. The conundrum crystallized Monday after it was revealed that the wide receiver suffered a hamstring injury early in the season opener that could keep him off the field for up to a month, leading to scrutiny of Jackson’s preseason conditioning.

While it’s impossible to arrive at a definitive answer, Coach Jay Gruden entertained the thought that Jackson’s legs weren’t ready for regular-season intensity before expressing doubt. But the mere fact that suspicion exists is an issue that shouldn’t be ignored. It’s exactly the kind of thing the team doesn’t want to worry about anymore.

With a head coach and new general manager who preach competition and a blue-collar mentality, it’s a problem when a player skips a bunch of voluntary spring workouts, nurses a training-camp shoulder injury for longer than expected and then suffers an injury that is common for athletes still getting into football shape. Plenty of players approach the offseason and preseason in their own manner, away from the regular supervision of team trainers, and everything works out just fine. But when something like this occurs, it’s fair to question the diligence of a player’s preparation.

Jackson is an electric player, a true star, a three-time Pro Bowler whose speed and deep-threat skills make him a rare commodity. On any team, his talent gives him leeway that other players won’t receive. That’s fine, in moderation. These aren’t Stepford athletes; it’s just not realistic to suggest that they should be universally coached a certain way.

But there are limits, and Jackson is known to stretch those limits as well as he stretches the field. If you don’t think Gruden and Scot McCloughan are worried about whether they can continue letting Jackson be different and still demand greater accountability from most everyone else, then you’re being naïve.

The hamstring injury brings the matter into focus. It might the cost the team its most explosive offensive player for nearly one-third of the season. The running game could suffer without the threat of Jackson creating space. Even if the running game keeps thriving, quarterback Kirk Cousins will be missing the perfect big-play receiver to burn teams with play-action passes and deep throws. Pierre Garcon will be blanketed heavily the next month, and there’s extra pressure on tight end Jordan Reed to stay healthy and productive.

There are also opportunities for young wide receivers Jamison Crowder, Ryan Grant and Rashad Ross, and perhaps a final chance for Andre Roberts to become reliable. It’s an important evaluation period. No doubt, the front office will pay careful attention to life without Jackson, considering it in the short and long term.

Jackson is in the second season of a three-year, $24 million deal that included $16 million in guaranteed money. It was basically designed as a contract that Washington could exit after two years without major cap implications in the third year. Jackson will turn 30 during the 2016 season. Washington will have to decide after this year whether to take on that third year at a $9.25 million cap hit or swallow $2.5 million in order to cut him.

Actually, next season will be a defining year for Jackson, Garcon and Roberts, who are slated to count a combined $24.45 million against the cap in 2016 unless something changes. All are easy to cut and create cap room with minimal dead money. And even if McCloughan likes any or all of them, it would seem prudent to renegotiate those deals.

The front office sent two messages recently. By re-signing linebacker Ryan Kerrigan and left tackle Trent Williams to huge deals, the Redskins rewarded the type of tough, competitive, football-focused players that McCloughan wants to collect and retain. And by re-evaluating the starting quarterback job and changing from Robert Griffin III to Cousins, they showed a willingness to eschew preconceived thought and embrace competition. Although the quarterback situation remains a source of passionate public debate, both of these statements have strengthened the credibility of this rebuilding effort inside the locker room.

Where does Jackson fit into this movement? Well, he’s still a talent that is almost impossible to duplicate. His special skill set carries significant weight in any evaluation. He might return and put together a 1,000-yard receiving season in only 12 games. He’s that gifted.

It’s also not really Jackson’s fault that the roster hasn’t been strong enough to make him feel any pressure of competition. His role as the No. 1 wide receiver was secure, never in doubt. There was little motivation to get back on the field as quickly as possible.

McCloughan must determine if there’s an impressionable bone left in Jackson’s body after eight NFL seasons. If so, there might be a way to bridge the wide receiver’s independence and the team’s need for commitment. But when you’re changing a culture, it often takes a consistent, intolerant approach initially to establish a system of accountability and a fear of disobeying.

Currently, the perception is that Washington needs Jackson too much to make him bend to the new order. One way or another, that belief must change. For too long, this franchise has allowed its stars to conduct themselves in a manner incongruous with the rest of the team. If the Redskins enable that again, this new plan is doomed, too.

For now, you anticipate Jackson’s return.

For the future, you also should want his diligence.
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189. "ok, what's going to happen when they run out of scapegoats"
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again, not even those certified to make the Kool-Aid for the Bees That's Orange go this far

  

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195. "Honestly dog, its boring to write We can't even come up with reasons"
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They're just bad!!!

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199. "Man.....I can't believe they would even go this far. "
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Gruden and Shanahan are damn near cut from the same cloth. Controversy just brews out of thin air. I fucking really don't like this man. Worst character as a coach.

  

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190. "well, I actually sort of agree with a lot of this"
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If we could get a 3 or maybe even a 2 for him I'd take it. We're not going anywhere with or without him, why not?

  

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200. "I'm looking a little sideeye at Brewer"
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His first year as a columnist for the Post, clearly he wants to make a name with some scorching #hottakes and also antagonize the fan base a la Jason LaCanfora and Jason Reid. Wouldn't take this too seriously.

  

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203. "all JLC did was tell the truth"
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and not sugarcoat Snyder's miserable failures.

5-7 years ago it made fans mad.

Now more people realize how inept everything is, and JLC is pretty much completely vindicated.

He gave credit the years they were decent. But that was a comically infrequent situation.

  

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207. "MATT JONES"
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the fumbling issue reared its head today and almost cost us dearly...but the guy is clearly a talent.

  

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208. "Honestly, that's the best Skins win since Thanksgiving 2012"
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Jones and Alf without abandon

Kirk made crisp and mostly low-risk passes at the right time and didn't then the ball over

Defense, and especially the front, played lights out. Foles was consistently on the run.

For the first time in about 3 years I had a blast watching my team.

  

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209. "Gotta give this win to the Linemen"
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On O and on D. They played their asses off. First time in a long time there was dominance in the trenches.

Moses is getting better each game IMO. I hate on Scherff but he is actually coming along nicely. He surprised me last week with his work against Suh and he has been great again.

Kirk is who I thought he was. Gruden set him up to succeed with the run game. Kirk might play himself into an extension if he keeps that up.

Gruden actually coached a good game. Defense has never looked this good under Haslett. Joe Barry doing a good job. The defense looks hungry out there.

  

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210. "find a way to win Thursday and everything changes..."
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212. "Nah, I still don't trust Gruden. "
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If they win like they did yesterday, I might give the benefit of the doubt. But otherwise, I still don't wholly trust his leadership ability.

  

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218. "RE: find a way to win Thursday and everything changes..."
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>everything changes...


:-/

  

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220. "if they win, they become this seasons good bad team"
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They should rack up wins against scrubs but not be good enough against the top tier.

with the way the division is going, worst to first is possible.

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211. "i must admit...they looked good offensively. "
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2 headed monster @ running back is a game changer

  

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213. "Listen, if you want to prop up Kirk, cool but.."
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Here is what I don't get about our local media and we went through the same thing with McNabb.

I use to enjoy listening to the Monday Morning QB on ESPN980 because Doc Walker would keep it real. So I tuned in this morning and it was a bash RGIII fest.

If you want to commend Kirk, I'm cool with that but I don't understand the need to keep tearing RGIII down.


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214. "just call in when he sucks and watch how quick they hang up on you"
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215. "Oh, after last week it already happened"
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Anytime somebody called in to be critical of Kirk last week they shouted them off the line.


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216. "i feel like 106.7 is much better"
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i don't actually listen to 980 at all so I can't speak on it but the guys on 106.7 seem pretty fair

  

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217. "RGIII is not even playing right now. What is the point of bashing dude n..."
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But yeah, like you said, Kirk can't do no wrong in the eyes of the media here.

  

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219. "you guys read and listen to the wrong media"
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221. "I've been listening to radio all day..."
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...no one is really talking about RGIII. Moreso everyone is stunned at the run game and defense. Even Kirk is mentioned later after the running game and line play.

  

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222. "dc sports bog got it right"
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"Best boring game manager: Cousins, who completed 23 of 27 passes for 203 yards and a 4-yard touchdown to Pierre Garcon late in the second quarter. He didn’t make any spectacular plays, but he did more than enough to win, and he didn’t turn the ball over."

  

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223. "I only listened to Monday Morning QB"
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Turned it on when it started at 6, turned it off by 6:20 because Sheehan and Polin just used the time to keep ripping RGIII.

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224. "And of course we can't win without drama: RGIII hates Kirk (link)"
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Or at least that's the implication. More shitting on RGIII after a good showing by Cousins.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25311156/report-robert-griffin-iii-kirk-cousins-cant-even-be-in-the-same-room

Things are going a little too well for the Redskins right now. They're 1-1 after thumping the Rams on Sunday and nearly could be 2-0 and tied for the NFC East lead.

How about we dump some cold water on the party, courtesy of Bleacher Report's Jason Cole, who reports quarterbacks Robert Griffin III and Kirk Cousins "don't speak" and "can't even be in the same room" as one another.

"Simply put: they don't talk. They don't speak to each other, they don't communicate, they can't even be in the same room as each other because of the tension that exists between the two sides," Cole says.

Why is this happening now? And who is behind it? You would think it comes from RG3's camp, but Cole's sources lit into the former No. 2 overall pick, now turned backup.

"The problem here for RG3 is this is a reflection on him. It's a continuation of a pattern where he simply doesn't get along with teammates," Cole says. "He's had problems with offensive linemen in the past, he's had problems with coaching staffs in the past. In other words, he has isolated himself from the rest of the team. That, to many people within the Washington organization, is an indication of his lack of leadership ability and his ultimate inability to become the starting quarterback and hold that position."

The leadership thing is going to be questioned. There's no tangible proof of RG3 lacking leadership. And Cousins previously praised Griffin for being incredibly professional about the whole process.

The good news for Washington? If the Redskins keep winning with Cousins under center, all of this will go away. Or should anyway.
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225. "Jason Cole is a total joke"
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He makes Broussard look like a legitimate source

  

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226. "I call BS on this"
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There were a couple shots from Sundays game were Kirk and RGIII were talking on the sideline.


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228. "I don't believe that for one second. "
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The media here totally stinks. They are just trying to drum up locker room drama. These new media cats man. Most of them are pretty terrible.

  

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229. "They Released David Amerson today"
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I guess they got tired of him never being in the right place and his eyes always in the wrong place.

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230. "should've never been a second rounder"
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his last year in college has some of the worst performances by a drafted player you'll ever see.

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231. "I'm pretty sure he didn't care to improve upon his skillset. "
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Extreme lack of discipline and focus. Oh well. Hope GMSM drafts a good one next year to replace him.

  

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233. "From all reports, Joe Barry is huge on Discipline"
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So to have a corner drafted so highly to be that undisciplined must've been a huge issue for him. None of the coaches had any type of allegiance to him.

I wouldn't be surprised if you don't see Bashaud get sat down for some of those overly emotional penalties he gets so often.

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235. "Long as Breeland ain't getting burnt for touchdowns"
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Emotional penalties do hurt, but consistently blowing assignments gets you cut.

  

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236. "I agree, Amerson was always lost"
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I'm worried about those safeties too.

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232. "Another winner from the Genius of Shanaclan."
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234. "Will Blackmon better"
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237. "Eh, I liked dude, but he did gamble too much. "
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238. "i like the ruthlessness they are growing here."
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its not hard to cut a kicker with no leg or a DB that is a virtual turnstile, but is is NEW for this organization to not tolerate mediocrity... and have the depth to do something about it.

Quietly, they chose robinson over johnson at safety - the latter was noteworthy when he signed.

They redeem the initially underwhealming shanallen players that are worth something (lauvao, morgan, even LeRibeus as backup center) and sit even the GMSM players that aren't competing.

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239. "Welp. Back to Earth"
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Just a few comments here. Kirk reverted back to Bad Kirk. Both picks were terrible. Jones will undermine his potential if he doesn't learn how to hold onto the ball. And Andre Roberts should've been cut yesterday.

  

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240. "Soul 2 Soul"
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Not sure why Roberts is still on the team. Especially when Crowder can do the job.

Only highlight seems to be the *skins finally found a kicker.

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241. "There is only ever bad Kirk"
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anything else is an aberration.

The book on him was written in college and his career has followed it exactly.

  

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242. "Gruden going down with the Kirk ship."
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Don't wanna blame him for anything in the press conference. Said he played well.

Losing Lauvao is gonna hurt. And why didn't he play Alf more? Matt Jones is good but he acts like Alf sucks or something.

  

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243. "You could tell Morris wasn't happy too"
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244. "You don't run the rook on the 1yd line when you got Alf on the team...."
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period.
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245. "Couple things here"
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- They're giving this kid Jones too much too soon. They're only starting Fred as a gesture. In all important moments they've got Jones in the game and he's not paying dividends. He's fumbled away two very good opportunities. Fred desrves more carries. He's a very good runner, and the kid hasn't earned his spot yet. Let Fred cook.

- Kirk is a Giants Sleeper agent. They just activate him whenever he comes to East Rutherford. Also he was off ALL last night, here's the thing, he doesn't throw great boundary passes. The sure TD to Jordan that he underthrew. The overthrow to Crowder headed towards the sidelines. He's comfortable throwing post patterns, but Kirk NEVER looked away from that first int. He stared that route down the entire way. BAD EYES. He did some good things in the pocket, but honestly dude was off ALOT last night.

- The Defense, got caught in a position with the no huddle that nullified our D line, its bad to have something work SOOO well this early in the season, because good teams will use this for the rest of the season. Bashaud had a bad game. Didn't sight the ball well, he was just a tad off. Missing all of pre-season and having to play right away before he gets into playing shape is really tough for him. He's almost there, but you can tell he's not in the same place he was last year.

- Roberts should be cut, he has at least one IMPORTANT drop a game. Its infuriating. Like was said above, the young kids are doing what he's supposed to do anyway. Let's move on.

- That kid Plummer has a terrible first quarter. First he just got bullied into the punt block, and then a stupid holding call on a return that immediately resulted in Kirk throwing a int.

- That was a great return, I like this kid, and hope that we can get more of those out of him this year.

- I think Gruden will be done after this year. His lack of in game adjustments will be his undoing.

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246. "RE: Couple things here"
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Fixed it for you

>- I think Gruden will be done after this year. His lack of being a good coach will be his undoing.


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247. "^ ^ ^"
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253. "Yerp. That team is undisciplined because of him. "
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Like I said before, he is just not a good leader.

  

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248. "Fun stats with everyone's favorite back up QB"
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"Cousins has eight career games with multiple interceptions, and Washington is 0-8 in those games. Cousins now has a whopping 23 career interceptions.

How bad is that? Consider that Cousins has the exact same number of career interceptions as Washington second-string quarterback Colt McCoy and Washington third-string quarterback/scout team safety Robert Griffin III. But McCoy has thrown his 23 interceptions in 831 career pass attempts, and Griffin has thrown his 23 interceptions in 1,063 career pass attempts. Cousins has thrown just 514 passes in his career.

When it comes to throwing interceptions, Cousins compares unfavorably to some of the worst quarterbacks in recent NFL history. Cousins’s career touchdown-interception ratio is almost exactly the same as that of Jaguars draft bust Blaine Gabbert: Cousins has thrown 21 career touchdown passes and 23 interceptions, while Gabbert has thrown 23 touchdown passes and 24 interceptions.

Cousins also throws interceptions at a worse rate than Raiders draft bust JaMarcus Russell: Cousins and Russell both have 23 career interceptions, but Russell threw 166 more passes than Cousins has thrown."

  

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249. "One of the analytics sights on Cousins"
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Cannot remember which one but they look at "interceptable" balls. They said Cousins throws an interceptable ball every 11th passing attempt.

I'll have to try and find it.


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250. "where's the dude who was posting all the advanced stats on Bob?"
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I wonder if interceptions count as advanced stats.

  

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251. "How can Gruden go to sleep at night..."
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after getting on TV and saying Cousins played well? So disgusting. Dude just will not criticize him...at all. He used to talk shit on RGIII about how he practiced...PRAKDISS (c). Such a fat-faced jackass.

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252. "Gruden is a liar flat out. He hasn't made one factual statement all year..."
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254. "where is that dude who was yapping about Cousins in every RG3 thread?"
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/09/28/a-closer-look-at-kirk-cousinss-performance-against-the-giants/

  

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255. "i think Kirk has until the bye week"
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256. "Will the media still be running to Shanahan for comment? "
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I don't get why they keep going to dude.

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257. "all i know is Kyle is ballin' in ATL"
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Wish we kept him around

  

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258. "It's been three games"
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and he just got ran out of Cleveland.

  

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259. "what if Scot McLovin' really is an evil genius"
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Read this over at HogsHaven and it got my hopes up. Doubtful, obv, but WE CAN ONLY HOPE

"What if this whole thing is Scot playing the long game with Gruden? He "lets" the coach pick his player, knowing full well that Cousins is a more Ned Flanders version of Sex Cannon, thus giving Fat Ass a chance to hang himself with his own rope. Fire Gruden, then install Griffin next year who has had a full year to get healthy and practice, with Darrell Bevell being hired as the new HC."

  

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260. "If this is the case then why smear RGIII in the media?"
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The media hit jobs which have been helped by the GM's blowjobs have soured the fan base on RGIII.

So, not sure I can buy this one. Bevell is the coach I wanted from the jump.


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262. "that's more on the media"
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And ultimately, all of it will be forgotten in time.

  

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267. "No this is the team's fault. "
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They did a poor job of keeping things under wraps. If they really wanted to keep Robert they would have tried harder to not smoke away all his credibility as a player. They never came to his defense when the media called him a bad teammate. Really all of this just means is that they don't know what to do with him. They want to get something for Robert but can't because they killed all his credibility as a player.

  

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270. "nah, they're keeping him"
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They traded a lot of draft picks for him and Scot is no idiot. They're not going to cut him loose for nothing.

  

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274. "yeah, the scenario you presented above makes a ton of sense"
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scot walks in and knows its near impossible to get a guy with rg3s talent and record of success. Definitely not in Fagency. Probably not in the draft any more... this team under GMSMs direction wont likely have a top 5 pick for awhile.

so give gruden enough rope to hang himself. if gruden wins with his chosen guy then scot wins too for giving jay the freedom to coach his way.

if gruden loses, scot picks his guy and gives him the chance to coach a humbled bob up.

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275. "But Robert is seen as uncoachable now. No. This doesn't make much "
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sense to me. Who is gonna wanna come in and coach somebody who is as far behind as Robert is? Why expose him as such damaged goods? They can't get rid of him because they can't get nothing good for him. Simple as that. You can buy that bullshit if you want to. Even if they end up firing Gruden and keeping Robert around, I'm not buying that narrative. Robert is damaged goods at this point.

  

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277. "Robert is younger and has more upside than most replacement qbs"
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i would rather have bob than hoyer, mallet, cassell, mcnown, vick, etc.

they cant trade him cuz his contract is too risky, not cuz bob is not worth trading for.

i doubt any coach that gets hired (or signs him next year) will lack the confidence to think they can fix him. If gruden gets fired is clear that he did something wrong with running the team. The new coach will presumably think his plan will work better, including handling the QBs.

plus if robert stays on the bench, he stays healthy and can be cut next year if the coach doesnt want him. This is part of the this Plan B works strategically for GMSM. Plan A had to have been starting robert or else he would not have picked up year 5 so quickly.

robert looked the best out of all of the qbs this offseason according to reports. he just cant translate it yet onto the field. its hard to say that he is "behind" when cousins apparently hasnt taken any steps forward. Bob just has to trust his protection and check down more. Dilfer has talked about how it took him years to overcome trust issues he had in the pocket. IF this is something that can be overcome (and you belief dilfer that it can be) someone is gonna keep giving bob a chance. Its just that $16M is extremely high risk and cap unfriendly.

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278. "RE: Robert is younger and has more upside than most replacement qbs"
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>robert looked the best out of all of the qbs this offseason
>according to reports. he just cant translate it yet onto the
>field. its hard to say that he is "behind" when cousins
>apparently hasnt taken any steps forward. Bob just has to
>trust his protection and check down more. Dilfer has talked
>about how it took him years to overcome trust issues he had in
>the pocket. IF this is something that can be overcome (and you
>belief dilfer that it can be) someone is gonna keep giving bob
>a chance. Its just that $16M is extremely high risk and cap
>unfriendly.

I think you hit the nail right here. Bob doesn't trust the pocket, when he drops back he is basically "waiting for the hit." Hell, during the preseason there were times he didn't even have to wait!

Which brings me to this...I know folks claim the play calling is the same but I call shenanigans. When Bob was in there wasn't any quick screens, rolling pockets, etc...

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280. "iono, i think Jordan Reed's availability makes a huge difference. "
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Not sure if the play calling is different, but having Reed out there is a difference maker for Cousins that Bob didnt benefit from in August.

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268. "he quit cuz the browns brass was acting crazy. "
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plus he knew quinn was a better guy to be attached to.

Kyle has been at least competent wherever he's gone.

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271. "Mediocre is basically the best I can say."
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Seems like a common theme in that family these days.

Kyle was at the center of RG3 drama and rumor garbage. He has many of the terrible traits of his father, without any of the success.

  

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272. "he's also 35 years old"
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I think his best days are yet to come

  

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273. "no doubt. he very well may be a jerk with no character."
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he's still a pretty good at his job.

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261. "Cousins is the backup for a reason. "
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But this is whom Gruden wanted to start. The ship be slowly sinking mate.

Long as Robert just sits back and studies the playbook and works on his football IQ, he's good. But yeah, not fair that Robert gets ate up in the press and Kirk makes some of the same mistakes and there is little fanfare.

  

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263. "Kirk's getting eaten up too out here"
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264. "I ain't heard as much venom for real"
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265. "you hear what you want to hear"
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The starting QB of the Washington football team is under a microscope, and everybody's favorite player is always the backup

  

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269. "kirk doesnt give off nearly as many dumb quotables as Bob."
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kirk may be a mediocre QB but he is not an attention whore. The latter is what gets Bob the vitriol from fans and from coaches.

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276. "Gruden lacks accountability. "
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Its Robert's fault when the team loses a game and its the team's fault when Kirk plays poorly. Not an even playing field at all. Folks are starting not to like that extra hard shield Kirk gets from criticism. But for real, it never should have been this polarizing to begin with.

  

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266. "Not by Gruden he isn't."
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Gruden is his biggest supporter. If he is so much better than Robert then he should be just as critical of his mistakes too.

  

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279. "By what you just said its not going to happen. If Gruden is his biggest"
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Supporter, then there's no way he's going to be as critical. Especially because Kirk does minimum baseline QB things. Slides in the pocket, can make quick reads. He doesn't do it well mind you, or nearly to the extent that the media or anyone following this team would have you believe, but he does it better than Griff at this point.

Having said all that, he still misses a lot of reads, and even misses a lot of throws. He's not that much better, but you'd have a hard time telling that by the way he's presented.

He is the exact opposite of Robert when it comes to the media though. So in that respect he's a lot more likeable.

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281. "Lauvao and Justin Rogers to the IR"
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/09/29/redskins-place-starting-guard-shawn-lauvao-and-backup-cornerback-justin-rogers-on-injured-reserve/

with DHall nicked and still not really himself, losing rogers is a blow. culliver and breeland can only do so much alone. still dont miss amerson tho.

The Lauvao injury is potentially really bad. The line becomes YOUNG with either Spencer Long or Arie Kouandjio getting more time. Folks hoping for more 5 and 7 step drops with DJax coming back may be disappointed.

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282. "They can just put Bob at DB "
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284. "RE: They can just put Bob at DB "
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Put him at safety.

  

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283. "Damn. Losing Lauvao is a big blow. "
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LeRibeus from what I read is better at Center than at guard. And looking at him from the Giants game, he wasn't very effective at guard. Kouandijo.......hope he gets himself prepared to go. He's gotta prove himself much sooner than expected.

Hall has a rib injury. He's not gonna be himself for awhile. The secondary is so weak right now. Defense needs turnovers, but that secondary isn't gonna produce them.

  

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285. "he was garbage last year but Lauvao was playing well this year."
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curious to see the young guy though. get him some playing time.

  

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286. "yes...the youth movement is nice to see"
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>curious to see the young guy though. get him some playing
>time.

cutting chester early in the preseason gave these guys more reps. hopefully that speeds up their growth time.


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287. "IS THIS REAL LIFE"
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That's a game we lose 10 times out of 10 in any of the last two seasons. Amazingly clutch catch by Garçon and good-enough-to-win Cousins. Encouraged by the AlMo runs on the last drive. Great, great victory #HTTR

  

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288. "Yeah till next week. lol"
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Good win from the team. Bad loss for the Eagles.

Morris is not gonna make much production as long as Gruden keeps giving away all his carries. But having three good RBs is not a bad problem to have.

  

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289. "this team is gritty. and actually worth watching."
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havent been this tough since gibbs 2.0.

it was a must win after the embarrassment last thurs and they got the job done.

they MUST cut out the penalties though. The rest of the schedule is significantly harder and there will be more games like the one against NY if they dont play with more discipline.

FWIW, Barry has done a fine job defensively with the talent he has. The dline is great, the LBs pretty good - they need to turn some of those pressures into sacks, and ... the DB play is approaching hasslettian levels again, but i am not sure what they can do without having better players healthy. Nice to see trent murphy playing for his job out there.

through 4 games, they are clearly improved over last year. i'd say this even if they had lost yesterday. the team has an identity. They have strengths that depth may rob them off, but this is a step forward. depth is an issue, but its gonna take GMSM more than one offseason to fix that. Overall, its been a positive first qtr of a season and i am willing to give management and gruden props for stealing callahan, selecting barry as a solid plan b (along with fewell and the other defensive coaching changes), and making smart decisions on playing time - starting moses, moving sherff, cutting chester and plugging in long, benching roberts, even starting cousins.

like i said before - the schedule gets much harder - the next four are @atl, @NYJ, TB, Bye, @NE. If this team is really improved, i'll take 2-2 from that.

as an aside, along with waiting 10+ years to get a practice bubble for the team, not getting field turf is one of the underrated dumb things that snyder's done.

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294. "I am scared about Atlanta. Our safeties suck. Julio Jones has been beast..."
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Like dude could easily go for 120yds on us next week.

  

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290. "At Home vs Philly"
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- Kirk had a good game, he did manage that game winning drive though, and he was sharp. I'll say this, he looked downright SHOOK when they would show him during time outs. He got the win though, and for one week i'm going to let him cook.

- Those safeties looked bad yesterday. One high with Trenton Robinson is not a good look for us. I don't even know what to say about this shit, we got beat on the same play twice with different people running the post pattern. I can't even imagine what Julio and Matty Ice are going to do.

-Bashaud had a come back game, where he got roasted against the giants he showed up big against the Eagles. love that kid.

- Alf got more carries, but still gets taken out at times. I'll say this though, having Chris Thompson as a change of pace back was really effective yesterday. I like it.

- it was a good divisional win. In a week where kickers were costing teams games, I think we found a good one. Strong leg, and hasn't missed yet.

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291. "Them safeties are a real big problem."
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That is a big weakness for this team moving forward.

I agree with Awburn, team can't keep whiffing on those sacks like that. Those type of whiffs end up being big plays for the other team. Gotta tighten that up.

The offensive line needs some tweaking. They gotta be more aggressive blocking for close yardage situations. Them holes ain't open up really for Matt or Alfred.

Gruden looked competent. That is all the compliments I will.give him this week.

Kirk finally won a big game. Happy that he got it done. He damn near got Garçon killed though with that throw. But hey he got it done though.

  

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292. "About those sacks, I was talking to someone else about this"
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Kerrigan missed on 2 huge ones, that turned into a huge gain on 3rd down, and the other turned into a TD. Those are plays that he has to finish. He's the best pass rusher we have and he hasn't really show me much of shit this year. Both of those plays he had Sam bradford DEAD TO RIGHTS, and couldn't get him on the ground. Gotta have those.

- The O line has been decent, but they've really got to do a better job firing off on short yardarge. On every one of those plays the ball carrier had someone at their feet 3 yards behind the line. Gotta do better.

- Gruden looked like a real coach on sunday.

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293. "kerrigan looks still hurt/getting healthy and its slowing him down"
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he missed a lot of time this offseason, so maybe he is just out of shape.

hopefully in the second half of the season he returns to form and converts those sacks.

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295. "Good, Mediocre, and Terrible Kirk all in the same day"
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Good: The drive to end regulation and set up the tying FG

Mediocre: Plenty of time all day, made the right reads, but just inaccurate for most of the day. Had guys open, too. (TD to Carrier was a good throw, though.)

Terrible: Game-ending Pick 6. Terrible.

Sidebar: What happened to our run game? I don't know if this three-headed monster really works as Gruden think it will. We need at least one guy to establish a rhythm instead of switching every other play.

  

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296. "I couldn't believe Chris Cooley said this on the radio this morning"
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"Cousins' receivers need to make him look better..."

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297. "lol. "
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Cooley is moving into the territory where I regret ever loving that dude.

  

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299. "Cooley is a fucking jerk. "
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He got nerve to talk about the Wide Receivers. His ass had the dropsies too when he played.

  

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298. "yeah, Kirk missed throws all game. but had moments where he"
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looked good. he has to improve his accuracy. he threw behind players way too often.

  

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302. "This is what I don't get"
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This is his MO, nothing new here. Not sure why people are shocked by this.

And I don't understand why people are talking about Grant slipping on the pick 6. If you look at the throw you'll notice 2 things:

- The DB broke on the route quickly
- The throw was so wide even if Grand doesn't slip it's intercepted, the only that could have happened is Grant makes the tackle

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307. "yeah, kirk has pretty much taken the blame for the pick."
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On second and 8, kirk should have thrown the ball away or (as he has since admitted) shifted the protection toward the blitz. Instead, Kirk intentionally threw toward the sideline since he thought it would be a safer spot.

The DB said he knew with a three step drop the ball would come out quickly. As soon as the ball was snapped kirk stared down Grant so the DB knew it was coming his way and fast - jumping the route was good football on his part enabled by the skins offense. Same thing happened against the giants. Gruden/mcvay have to figure out how to coach this weakness up. It would help to not have an empty backfield -- they seem to like that look on situations that dont really call for it -- like 2 & 8.

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300. "O line ain't giving none of them any holes. "
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But I dunno if its because they don't know who they are blocking for from snap to snap. Alfred need to eat yo. Give him his starting position back. Give him his 20 carries. Its not like he's been garbage. He's even blocking better. But also Lauvao is missed and Lichenstieger is too damn inconsistent.

  

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301. "Because teams are now stacking the box daring Cousins to beat them"
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303. "also i think the rushing #s were inflated a bit"
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We all got so geeked after running it up against MIA and STL—turns out those two teams are near the bottom at run defense.

  

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304. "I didn't see any of the game"
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I can only go off of analysis and highlights.

Seems as though, the inaccuracy thing that we've seen in the past is starting to become a bit more regular. If he plays well, they win, if he plays poorly, or even pedestrian they lose.

- I heard the secondary played a better game, although Bashaud is injured now and that could prove to be costly against Marshall & Decker.

- Sounds like our D line got punched in the mouth last week, is that true?

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305. "The D-Line and LB's let Freeman run wild...."
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...either that dude is the second coming, or pre-game planning was suspect.

Given his performance the first two weeks of the season, I expected better from our run D, and preparing for him. It's like all they did was try to shut down Julio Jones and forgot the young rook that's slicing thru D's like a hot butter knife.....
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306. "Kirk motivates the troops"
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310. "damn"
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314. "That's the weakest thing i've ever seen"
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Not that its an indictment on his playing, but naw fam.

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308. "The narrative of "We cannot blame Kirk for nothing" is amazing"
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312. "I've heard him blamed quite a bit"
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313. "what a fucking tool"
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what is he getting out of this?

  

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315. "The only thing I can guess is access"
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The team owns ESPN980 so if he is too critical they could make his life difficult I guess. Especially since he is on the radio broadcast and has access to game film.

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316. "Nah. He's just a fucking jerk. "
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If that were the case he would have been light on RG3 and he wasn't.

  

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317. "I dunno I enjoy his commentary"
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Opinionated sure, but he's good on the radio broadcast. Sees things that most don't.

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318. "Good for you. "
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309. "Jamison Crowder. Duke University Football."
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Second in receiving yards among all rookies (first is Cooper, obviously).

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311. "love that guy"
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Hope his targets continue to go up. He's got good hands and always does something when he gets the ball

  

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320. "According to SI reporter, Jay Gruden is a Top 10 coach "
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Yeah seriously - https://twitter.com/1067thefandc/status/654627851090526208


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321. "that's dope"
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322. "Between that J. Law Gif and the Japanese robot"
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I think that pretty much sums it up

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323. "lolol"
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don't ever change, sports media.

  

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324. "I feel like you don't have to watch sports anymore to be a reporter."
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325. "A top 10 coach? With a 2-3 record? Ok...."
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326. "Kirk Cousin's biggest skeptic (lank)"
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Jones sums up a lot of my thoughts.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/10/16/how-espns-bomani-jones-became-the-worlds-biggest-kirk-cousins-skeptic/





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327. "both he and Steinberg have good points"
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328. "I'm just off this shit now man. "
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329. "All the points he made is not only about the media per se"
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Its about the coach. I have seen quite a few folks who are critical about Kirk's performance but the biggest inconsistent one has been Jay Gruden. I have yet to see him call Kirk out in the media about any mistake he has made. Cooley and Jason Reid love Kirk, which I don't understand, but Jay Gruden's handling of this whole situation bugs the shit outta me. He has managed to worm his way out of a lot without much accountability.

Honestly though as a fan, I don't necessarily see the point in scrutinizing Kirk. He is who he is. His performance on the field is not the issue for me (unless he performs extremely terrible). Jay Gruden and how he handles the team and the media has always been the biggest concern of mine. He plays favorites and this is part of the reason why this fanbase is so divided. I don't like Gruden's leadership style at all. Even if we go 8-8 this year (which seems likely) he is the problem. Folks need to get off of Kirk. He's not the problem. He's just the face of it.

  

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330. "all of that."
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They're both losers.

  

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331. "our offense is terrible. "
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332. "Dude the team is terrible. "
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From QB on down.

  

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333. "Fully healthy I think we are safely mediocre"
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Like 7 or 8 wins. But as currently assembled... Pathetic

  

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335. "what was the defense's excuse today?"
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336. "Not Kirk fault"
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All that matters right?

  

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337. "they were the only reason we were in the game in the first half"
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They crumbled in the second half after the offense let them down time and time again.

  

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338. "Naw. They got exposed by the run game again. "
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They gonna have to adjust to how folks attack on the left side. Otherwise this team gonna get gashed every week.

  

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339. "lol"
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345. "where did our 13-10 lead come from at halftime?"
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Three takeaways - what's to laugh about that?

  

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349. "dude got a point... "
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352. "the TOP at the end of the game was 32 min to 27 min"
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And sadly, football games are 60 minutes.

It's not Kirk Cousins fault (or whatever your excuse is) that Ryan Fitzpatrick (!) scrambled 15 yards for a TD or Chris Ivory looked like Leveon Bell or Brandon Marshall was basically doing whatever he wanted.

  

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353. "I didn't say the defense played particularly well"
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I said they were the reason we were even in the game in the first half.

The run defense is dispiritingly soft, but there were too many three and outs and TOs in the third quarter. We couldn't keep hold of the ball and the defense got exposed.

  

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334. "Three out of five linemen out....."
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Terrible showing indeed. Especially in the run game. Blocking is horrible on that end. Nothing is opening up. Kirk did Kirk things. Nothing more to be said about that.

Disappointed in the defense though. That is the second time they have gotten gouged in the run game. That is something that needs to get better down the road.

  

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340. "Kirk could murder Jay Gruden's mom and Jay would still start him."
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341. "Tommy Boy's post game Cousins quotes were gold this week."
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Gruden, asked about Kirk playing poorly.. “I don’t know, I’ll have to look at the film. It got a little windy.”

Gruden: “There were a lot of things going on pre-snap that he’s got to deal with, getting the formations, the protections and all that.“

  

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343. "he should be fired:"
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>Gruden, asked about Kirk playing poorly.. “I don’t know,
>I’ll have to look at the film. It got a little windy.”
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342. "He is tied to him at this point"
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Gruden basically lobbied for Cousins to start the moment he got the job (which was a head scratcher considering Gruden was hired to specifically coach RGIII).

The season is the best thing that could happen to RGIII. He has a big kool-aid smile at this point.

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346. "Could Gruden get fired on the bye week?"
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If they lay an egg at home against TB, I wouldn't rule it out.

  

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348. "I think only if he is defiant about a QB switch"
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And honestly as much as I like RGIII, I don't want him playing a down again for this team. Bring in Colt if you want to make a switch.


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344. "jason reid is too fucking funny"
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i'm listening to this guy on espn 980. LOL. this guy is a great.

  

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347. "That dude is a clown"
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When he gets criticized for his Pro-Cousins stance and his RGIII bias - his go to move is to bring race into it.


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350. "Monday morning QB show right?"
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351. "that and the show with chris paul"
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he can explain anything away

  

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354. "Must Listen: Bomani on the Man cave (10/20)"
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Whoever put the link to the Steinberg/Bomani article above, thank you!

I love his position on the dynamic that is going on in DC.

He followed that up on the Man Cave this morning.
http://stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=65&c=19563&f=4953153


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355. "Reid should never call RG3 dumb for being socially unaware. "
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Reid is that way himself.

  

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356. "You should listen to Bomani's show from yesterday."
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If you don't know, it's called The Right Time. I can't link it unfortunately, but any decent podcast player should be able to locate it.

I'll have to listen to this Man Cave show when I get home tonight.

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358. "RE: You should listen to Bomani's show from yesterday."
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>If you don't know, it's called The Right Time. I can't link
>it unfortunately, but any decent podcast player should be able
>to locate it.
>
>I'll have to listen to this Man Cave show when I get home
>tonight.

Thanks man! I'm definitely going to look up his podcast.

Bomani has hit the nail on the head with this one and you can tell because of the way he touched a nerve with a lot of people. They (media) are all getting ridiculously defensive. John Keim came on right after that segment and acted like Bomani was talking about is mom or something. He was super defensive and hostile in his denial, And Jason Reid, is just an A-Hole.

Anyway, good looking out!


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359. "Here is his podcast link"
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360. "He said he don't trust DC media. LOL"
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361. "Spoiler for Ausar"
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So I don't ruin it for him, so don't read this response if you don't want the portion of the podcast ruined for you, but my favorite portion was when he played the snippet of Kirk Cousin's radio show with him talking about his interceptions. Bomani said dude was treating his interceptions like snowflakes.


It's pretty wild Cousins has a radio show and he's an active player, much less a subpar one.

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362. "The way he dissected Jason Reid was surgical "
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357. "Bomani TALKING ABOUT IT...."
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Why does no one discuss Washington's record when Kirk throws multiple picks?

  

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364. "btw"
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Surprisingly, Cooley did rip into Cousins this week about his Jets' picks

  

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365. "I just don't get why it's so contentious..."
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anyone with eyeballs who's watched this team in the last year can tell that all of the quarterbacks suck

these QB loyalty wars are baffling. All these dudes blow, can't it be that simple??

  

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366. "right?"
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367. "Local media and the coach make it contentious. "
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As long as there is unfair coverage, that is how it is going to be.

Its not about if we have a QB on the team or not, Washington fans and some in the media know there isn't. But its the polar extremes of how these two players have been covered that keeps this fire going. I absolutely hate how this whole thing has split fans right down the middle. But there is enough evidence to say that Kirk is not the real deal and I should NOT have to search for a local media outlet that has fair coverage of his deficiencies. It should NOT take Cooley 6 games into the season for him to be fair about Kirk's deficiencies. Kevin Sheehan should not be such an asshole and go on a "its not about race" tirade when it is obvious that he has a major slant for Cousins and has viscerally put down Robert. Jason Reid should hold himself more accountable to how he has portrayed both players as well.

But I can't even blame the media because they only go by what the coach does. And Gruden has been the biggest asshole out of this whole ordeal. All praise and support for Cousins and nothing for Robert. He is the reason this shit is the way it is. The locker room may not be split on which player they support but the media and fans are because of how he has portrayed and treated the both of them. I have never seen the support for Robert the way Gruden shows it for Kirk. There just shouldn't be excuses for such blatant favoritism when no QB on that roster is any good. I don't care about whether Robert deserved to be benched or whether he got too big for his britches. All I know is that he has not gotten any of the treatment that Kirk has gotten. Its not fair to have everyone walk on eggshells around dude just because he is a nice, likable guy. Its not right that he can't get fried because his ego is fragile. I honestly think this shit hurts Kirk just as much as it hurts Robert. It doesn't give him a realistic sense of what he can and cannot do. Gruden says he can't win with Robert. Ok fine. Looking at the evidence though, it seems like he can't win with Kirk either. But Kirk is not the problem. The rest of the team is. *sigh*

I just want his ass to admit he's wrong about Kirk but that shit ain't gonna happen. Actually I really want him to admit to the press that he is in over his head as a head coach but that is not gonna happen either. This dude says he wants Robert to be responsible for his actions but can't show any himself in how this team has performed overall. You ask him why he isn't using Darrel Young more and his answer is "Ummm....I should look into that".....Motherfucker you think so? Do you not know how to use him? Do you not like fullbacks? That shit is what frustrates me the most. Sad thing is I don't want him fired. I just want him to do his fucking job. Do his job and show some awareness. He seems like he can't even do that.

  

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369. "The thing about Gruden that irks me the most"
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Why portray the QB situation during the offseason and training camp that Robert improved from last year and made positive strides in the right direction if all it took was an alleged concussion for him to lose his job.
If someone is a clear starter as portrayed then an injury shouldn't force them out of a job.

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370. "there's probably 8 layers of politics behind that"
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like Snyder decreed that Bob be presented as starter, but then Gruden finally convinced Danny Boy that he sucks or some shit.

  

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368. "damn...Bomani dropped that ether."
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363. "Great analysis in the Washington Post about the run game (link)"
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We complain about Alfred Morris not getting any carries when Darrell Young is not getting much burn either this season. Teams stacking the box is not enough of a reason for them to not open up holes apparently.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/10/21/a-closer-look-at-why-the-redskins-run-game-is-struggling/?wprss=rss_redskins-page-shell&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

  

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371. "biggest comeback in franchise history and no one posts about it?"
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The hate is strong on OKP lol.

this one game means nothing. it was the bucs at home. i get that. fans thought the gutsy win against the eagles was a turning point for the team and then they lost two in a row...that pats are prolly gonna kill us...kerrigan is hurt again...so is breeland island...yeah, the running game still sucks. run defense is hemorrhaging yards.

but cmon.

cousins diced them up. when reed plays, this is a different offense.

the team is one game out of first is a crappy east.

rebuilding teams lose well, win ugly and rebuild the culture of the organization.

this team is doing that.

this has been a very encouraging 1/2 season.


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373. "Its strong for me. "
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I am glad that Kirk is progressing and all, but it just doesn't feel right that Robert is just not out there doing this. I can't enjoy any of this team progression because seeing Kirk getting all this love and support is a huge slap to the face every week. I have been trying hard to support Kirk. I like seeing his progression. I hate choosing side but I just feel a sort of sadness that its not Rob out there doing these things. I dunno. Its really killed my experience enjoying these wins because this whole QB thing has been that polarizing. I dunno.

And then, Alf probably gonna be out the door too. He don't deserve this either. All these 5, 6, 10 carry games he's piling up with very little yardage. He don't deserve this treatment either. Its like 2012 never happened for those two. What a fall from grace.

I feel like I should be happy that this team is trying to turn it around but don't none of this feel right. It just doesn't feel right at all.

  

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376. "I'm with you"
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I have checked out on this team for the whole RGIII debacle and how the organization turned on him quickly. Combine that with the fact how Gruden, who was hired as this QB guru to tutor RGIII, basically rode for Kirk from day 1. Side note: Dalton seems to be doing just fine without Gruden.

I don't think Gruden is a good coach and I just cannot rock with this team while he is there.


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377. "that's the long and short of it"
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This team still needs a coach and a QB, and probably a new owner.

  

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378. "if you can't at least take some measure of joy in that comeback"
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Really, it must suck being a fan of a team that you don't actually like

  

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379. "never said that"
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but I am glad you're back to policing my fandom.

it had been a little while.

  

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380. "more of a general statement"
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not necessarily directed to you. but who the cap fit....

  

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384. "don't worry your little head about how other fans feel."
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we'll be fine without your 'general statements'

  

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382. "i agree to all of that"
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374. "Even a broken clock....yada yada yada...."
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Everyone is talking about "aha, now you HAVE TO give Kirk his props!"

No.

I'll give second half Kirk his props. And even then, he was absolutely bailed out by his receivers making catches on ill-placed balls.

Still, props where they're due. Kirk stayed steady, didn't throw any INT's and led a game winning drive.

Sad things are seeing Alfred Morris being essentially put out to pasture and Garcon's gutsy-ness being near wasted every week.

All in all i feel like it's a great win that will just give people a reason to prolong fixing the things that are wrong with the team. Kirk's bought more time, Gruden's bought more time...
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372. "So umm...How do we feel about this win? Good? Bad?"
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My feelings about this game are all over the place.

Great comeback by Kirk and the defense. Breeland and Kerrigan most likely out or extremely hobbled. Glad we got a bye week.

Good redeemable win for Kirk and Gruden. Gruden finally got mad for once. Nice to see. Not so nice is Keenan Thompson tweeting to the fans that they should stay home because they left at halftime. Not good. Gruden needs to put a cap on that.

As much as I am trying to be happy about this win, I'm pretty tempered. One positive I get out of this now is that Kirk has a lot more poise than last season. He has grown a lot in that department. Another thing I realize now is that Gruden is right about Kirk being a good fit for what he is trying to do. He is adequate for the plan. The short passing game is Kirk's bread and butter. And Jordan Reed being back makes a hell of a difference for Kirk. Reed is a helluva player. Watching Kirk go through these ups and downs has been good to see.

Even after all of this though, I still wish that were Robert out there making those plays. Just bittersweet is all.

Its a good win that don't mean shit for NE. Plus it was against a bad team. Just all over the place.

  

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375. "pure roller coaster of emotions"
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Was livid in the first half. But the comeback... I can hardly believe it happened.

I always feel happy after a win. I am glad for Kirk, though I still have my doubts about him. I certainly don't begrudge him his success. Robert had a lot of great games in his rookie season. Let Kirk have a couple too.

  

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381. "mad. they just gon draft a fat ass lineman with the 12 pick. "
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389. "waiting to hear KB's reaction to this."
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390. "Yeah...they are. "
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And Gruden just bought himself season #3 even though we probably gonna be 3-6, again.

  

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383. "Winning never sucks. Especially when you win that way. "
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Truthfully man as bad as Cousins has been this year at times, I've kind of made my mind up on riding with him through the end of this year and maybe next even too mainly because we have about a half dozen other positions that are actually WORSE than quarterback is right now.

It would look to upgrade

linebackers
safeties
corners
defensive line
receivers

in that order long before I'd think about QB.

Now I don't think Jay Gruden is some genius coach. I don't think Joe Barry is an especially creative D-Coordinator mind either. And I obviously can distinguish Kirk Cousins from Tom Brady. But I do think just committing to SOMETHING for more than two years really could do us more harm than good.

I'm willing to ride it out with these goof balls now. They're woefully under talented but damn if Jay and Kirk don't get these guys to play every week.

  

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385. "RE: Winning never sucks. Especially when you win that way. "
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>linebackers


>defensive line

>receivers

>in that order long before I'd think about QB.


Really? Over the guy who has a 1:1 career TD:INT ratio?

I think some of those units are ok.

  

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386. "RE: Winning never sucks. Especially when you win that way. "
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I think the linebackers are terrible against the run and hardly ever get home

So then that must mean the D-line isn't opening up enough holes right? And both LBs and D-Line are pathetic against the run.

There's no difference makers in the front 7 whatsoever. Kerrigan is "good", he can't turn the game on a dime all by himself though. You need one guy like that who can.


Secondary is trash outside of Breeland.


Need another truly dynamic weapon other than Reed, especially when you consider that Reed is going to miss 6-10 games a year anyway.

  

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387. "the truth of the matter is"
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We're in a "trash QB" era in the NFL. Outside of the truly elite QBs (Rodgers, Brady, etc.) there are a LOT of guys that are borderline, Kirk among them. Now we can all hold out hope that we stumble upon a franchise guy in the next few years, or we can maximize talent elsewhere and hope that Kirk is the guy.

Honestly, is Kirk demonstrably worse than over half of the QBs in the league? He is not. He's safely in the middle of the pack. Whether or not that is good enough to contend for the Super Bowl is another question, but for now he's the best we got.

  

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391. "He is *easily* demonstrably worse than half of the QBs in the league."
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>Honestly, is Kirk demonstrably worse than over half of the QBs
>in the league? He is not. He's safely in the middle of the
>pack.

He's tied for third for interceptions.
He's tied for third in lost fumbles.
He's tied for second in total QB turnovers.*
He's 21st in YPG.
He's 27th in TDPG, but a couple of the non-starters passed him here, so he's 23rd out of starters.
He's tied for 26th in TD:INT ratio.
He's 23rd in QBR.
He's tied for 36th for the longest play.

The only thing he ranks in the top half of the starting QBs in the league for is completion percentage. There, he is 12th. So he is barely better than over half of the QBs in the league... at the thing at which he is best.

That, in my opinion, is demonstrably worse than over half of the QBs in the league. My question would be-- how is he demonstrably *not* worse than over half of the QBs in the league?

*- in fairness, Yahoo has one fewer fumble registered than NFL.com does, so that would place him tied for fourth in lost fumbles and tied for third in total QB turnovers, if Yahoo is correct.

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392. "RE: He is *easily* demonstrably worse than half of the QBs in the league..."
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You're kind of nitpicking stats tho.

Longest play is now a metric for QB play?

INTs are clearly a problem for Kirk, but he's also doing better than average in other categories which are at least as relevant as the ones you listed:

Completions: 2nd
Yards: 11th
TDs: 14th
First Downs: 4th
Sacks: 25th (obv the lower here the better)

And most importantly, for now... wins: 3. Which puts him as solidly average, in the middle of the pack.

>He's tied for third in lost fumbles.
He has one lost fumble all season. Granted it was returned for a TD, but seriously? Saying he's "tied for third in lost fumbles" and using that as evidence that he is below-average is a little bit of a stretch. He's tied with Aaron Rodgers in that category, btw.

  

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397. "He's turnover prone and has huge limitations downfield."
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Hence the importance of the longest play metric-- it's representative of the fact that Kirk can't or won't take shots downfield.

If you're using total completions, then Alex Smith must be the best QB in the league for you. He's honestly not a bad comparison to Kirk, except that Kirk also turns the ball over more than Alex. How is Alex working out long-term for KC?

If you can't make big downfield plays and you're prone to making turnovers... then how are you in the middle of the pack in terms of QBs? If you're going to be making turnovers, at least be a big play risk. If you're not going downfield quickly, at least be careful with the ball. Kirk can't do either.

Also, LOL at you putting he's 11th in yards and 14th in TDs right after I put that he's 21st in yards per game and 27th in TDs per game. Per game matters when he's played a game more than roughly half of the QBs in the league.

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398. "and turnover prone is an understatement"
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he's got 21 starts and 4 years under his belt and his turnover:td ratio is still 1:1. That's 30% worse than Matt Stafford (!)

You will never, ever win shit with that.

Right now the Redskins are basically at expansion-level talent. So if KC is your QB for a year or two it doesn't really matter. But in the long run he's useless.

  

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400. "Right, I'm totally fine if people said QB isn't their *biggest* problem."
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I don't know enough about the positional breakdown of the team to make that claim.

But anyone saying it isn't a big problem is 100% in denial. It is a big big big big problem and the Skins will never ever ever ever win shit with Kirk Cousins at QB. Because he is demonstrably in the bottom half of QBs in the league.

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402. "include all the bigs and never evers you want"
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Still doesn't make you right.

I absolutely hate this argument BUT I'm forced to use it here because of all the "never ever"s you guys are spouting ...

what was Peyton's TD:INT ratio after 21 starts?

  

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404. "We're comparing 27 year old Kirk... to 23 year old Peyton?"
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>what was Peyton's TD:INT ratio after 21 starts?

I think I have to go. This is now officially getting weird.

Kirk's ceiling is nowhere near, nowhere NEAR, Peyton's. And you know this.

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405. "yeah"
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You gotta watch the games to be able to comment on them, for starters

  

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406. "edit, because LOL"
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Despite the fact that I've watched nearly every game, that's not even what needs addressing in your argument... because nearly every diehard Skins fan poster in here would find that line of reasoning absolutely insane. Maybe they don't watch the games either?

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409. "as I said, that comparison is weak"
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But it's even weaker, to me, to make an argument that something will "never ever" happen. Kirk will never ever be Peyton. But will DC never ever win "anything" (what is "anything" anyway?) with Kirk as QB? Disagree. An average/middling QB can lead a team to the playoffs—and even get to the SB. Depends on a whole lot of other factors, obviously. The jury is still out on Kirk, but I'm not going to eulogize his career yet. If we are, then we might as well eulogize the careers of half of the other QBs in the league too.

  

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412. "Why is the jury out on Kirk tho?"
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>The jury is still out on Kirk, but I'm not going to
>eulogize his career yet. If we are, then we might as well
>eulogize the careers of half of the other QBs in the league
>too.

You keep saying "21 starts"... but he'd been in the NFL for multiple years before that as a backup. This is his fourth season in the NFL. At what point *do* you eulogize a player as someone who simply isn't an NFL starter?

This isn't a snarky question, this is 100% sincere.

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413. "he's done some pretty cool things this year"
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Has he thrown some picks that make you say "is this guy serious?"

Of course. The Atlanta OT pick-6 was especially maddening and the Jets picks were downright embarrassments.

But he has made some great plays and led a few game winning drives. I actually feel better about him now than I did two months ago - I'm still far from convinced he's the cure all, but I am at least still intrigued to see what he's going to do on a week to week basis.

What Cousins needs to do is establish consistency. One week it's 2 picks, one week it's 3 TDs in a game winning drive...I would rather him just level out somewhere in the middle with fewer interceptions. And admittedly, chances are he never finds that consistency. Most QBs don't.

But there's no denying that his guys play for him and like him. I don't really know what that's worth long term, but I think it's if nothing else a great place to start and warrants him finishing the season.

  

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414. "he is exactly what every scout on the planet said he would be"
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in fact I struggle to think of a college player who was more accurately scouted than Kirk Cousins. There's a reason he was a 4th round pick.

Decent arm. Great poise. Capable of playing great. Consistently throws terrible INTs.

It was true in college. It was true in his rookie year. It's true in his 4th year.

Is it possible Kirk all the sudden stops having one of the worst turnover rates in league history (*actual fact)?

Sure.

Is it likely?

Nah.

  

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415. "But Peyton Manning tho"
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>Is it possible Kirk all the sudden stops having one of the
>worst turnover rates in league history (*actual fact)?

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416. "oh I'm with you man I don't think he's special either"
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Longo asked when do you tap out on him and I just made a case for letting him finish the season is all.

  

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417. "definitely"
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and next year's class of rookie QBs looks weak so ride with him another year if you have to.

But a franchise's top goal should be winning and making the playoffs every year. And as far as that goes, Kirk needs to replaced sooner, not later.

  

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401. "Like I said - middle of the pack"
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>Hence the importance of the longest play metric-- it's
>representative of the fact that Kirk can't or won't take shots
>downfield.

The one downfield threat we have was injured on literally his first play of the season. We'll get a better idea of how Kirk takes shots downfield when #11 returns.

>If you're using total completions, then Alex Smith must be the
>best QB in the league for you. He's honestly not a bad
>comparison to Kirk, except that Kirk also turns the ball over
>more than Alex. How is Alex working out long-term for KC?

He's in the middle of the pack, but I actually think Kirk's better. You chose a bunch of random stats, I countered with equally random stats.

>If you can't make big downfield plays and you're prone to
>making turnovers... then how are you in the middle of the pack
>in terms of QBs? If you're going to be making turnovers, at
>least be a big play risk. If you're not going downfield
>quickly, at least be careful with the ball. Kirk can't do
>either.

Except in the games we won?

>
>Also, LOL at you putting he's 11th in yards and 14th in TDs
>right after I put that he's 21st in yards per game and 27th in
>TDs per game. Per game matters when he's played a game more
>than roughly half of the QBs in the league.

See what you want to see.

I never said Kirk was close to an elite QB. Is he among the worst in the league? C'mon.

  

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403. "Name all of the starting QBs you'd take Kirk over."
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We need to see how far down the rabbit hole of delusion you go.

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407. "RE: Name all of the starting QBs you'd take Kirk over."
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EJ Manuel
Jay Cutler
Josh McCown
Matt Cassel
Bobby Hoyer
Alex Smith
Teddy Bridgewater
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Sam Bradford
Landry Jones
Colin Kaepernick
Nick Foles
Zach Mettenberger
Jameis Winston

edit: I'm gonna add 2015-era Peyton to this too. He'd get killed playing for us.

  

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408. "You just named four non-starters."
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>EJ Manuel-- Tyrod Taylor
>Jay Cutler
>Josh McCown
>Matt Cassel-- Tony Romo
>Bobby Hoyer
>Alex Smith
>Teddy Bridgewater
>Ryan Fitzpatrick
>Sam Bradford
>Landry Jones-- Big Ben
>Colin Kaepernick
>Nick Foles
>Zach Mettenberger-- Marcus Mariota
>Jameis Winston

So you're taking Kirk over Cutler, McCown, Hoyer, Smith, Teddy, Fitz, Bradford, Kaep, Foles, and Winston. That's 10. That would still put him in the bottom half of the league.

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410. "This argument for/against Kirk has been entertaining for sure. "
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411. "I'd take Kirk over Taylor and Mariota"
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So then - middle of the pack, as I said.

  

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418. "wait, you just said you'd take KC over Bridgewater? FOH"
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And honestly, I'd take Winston over KC too.

All this only 21 starts stuff too, you know RGIII only had 7 starts in the Gruden offense. That's well under KC's number of starts in that system. But, you've already made your mind up on him.

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419. "I'm actually not the one who brought up 21 starts"
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I'm more about the here and now.

My mind isn't made up on Kirk. But yeah. He's far from the worst QB in the league.

  

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388. "Half these positions you named we don't even have a real problem with. "
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Cornerbacks we just lack depth. And even then who thought all our starters would be injured by the bye?

D line doing what they are supposed to do. Don't really need to touch them.

Linebackers are a need though. I wonder what they would have looked like if Junior Gallette were playing. But Perry Riley needs to go.

Safety is tough. Been slim in that area since Sean Taylor passed. I will say though that they have picked up slightly on their performance from week to week. Its a need but not a major one.

Desean and Garcon are probably gonna be gone after this year so wide receiver may become an issue. Its not at the moment though. And Kirk really only uses Reed, Garcon and Crowder so he has weapons.

Roster moves to me are not the problem at this point. The coaching still is not where it should be. Gruden says that he's committed to the run and yet we pass 40+ times a game. If this team is a passing team just come out and say it. There is still no real offensive identity here and Gruden keeps tinkering with the RBs. Stick with a RB and keep it moving. Joe Barry starting to show his true coaching chops and its not looking great right now. That second level needs fixing. Can't keep using talent as an excuse for losing. They are not the best in the world, but they still could play better than what they are.

  

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394. "Word? I honestly think everyone on the Defense sucks except"
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for Breeland. I think Preston Smith could come on, I think Hatcher is OKAY...but by and large they're just guys.

  

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395. "Everyone on Defense sucks now? Wow"
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Chris Baker is all of a sudden horrible now? I know Kerrigan has been down but he is all of a sudden expendable now too? Those two both lead the team in sacks. Baker forced 2 fumbles. Even Trenton Robinson has picked up some slack in the safety position. I know the run D isn't great, the linebackers could use an upgrade in that area, but its a work in progress and there have been some major strides in that area.

  

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396. "I didn't say they're expendable, but come on"
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you're giving this unit a lot more credit than it deserves. They don't get after the quarterback, can't cover the deep ball at all, can't stop the run to save their lives...why is it such a wild idea that I think these guys mostly all suck?

I mean Kerrigan, who most who have identified as our prime defensive asset, had done NOTHING prior to his injury.

And while Baker is good, I think you could probably find more Bakers.

So, no, I don't think these guys are world beaters. I don't. And I stand by my original statement that not one guy on this unit outside of Breeland can singlehandedly swing the momentum of a game. Why should I feel otherwise? No one BUT Breeland has proven to be an exception yet.

  

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399. "Its still a process though"
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You don't go from consistent bottom rungs of the league to dominant overnight. They still got things that they need to work on but lets not act like they haven't improved at all. They have. And plus to have those type of dominant impact players, you are not always gonna get them through free agency. I think those type of players have to be drafted and developed in house. I agree that they aren't the greatest defense and there are a lot of holes to be shored up but lets show some patience. Plus I would rather wait and see what McCloughan has in store draft wise to shore up their deficiencies.

  

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393. "If nothing else, we got one of the greatest Vines of the season out of t..."
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420. "they canceled 'The Man Cave'"
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:( sounds like they never had a chance:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/10/28/espn-980-cancels-the-man-cave/

  

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421. "because it sucked"
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423. "^ this right here"
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422. "Should we start a second half of the season post?"
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I think damn near 500 posts is enough to justify it.

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424. "YES"
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