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""Why is ESPN Serving as Floyd Mayweather's PR Mouthpiece""


          

http://deadspin.com/why-is-espn-serving-as-floyd-mayweathers-pr-mouthpiece-1699694763


Pretty much what I've been thinking all week. It's impossible to take Stephen A. Smith seriously any more, but who are these pieces for? Who finds them entertaining or necessary? And what producer at ESPN is justifying this sort of soft "journalism" coming off the season they just dealt with in the NFL, for instance?

  

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yeah, it is hard to watch Stephen A. sucking Floyd off on those
Apr 23rd 2015
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Why do we need to see Floyd asked about beating women?
Apr 23rd 2015
2
A few things
Apr 23rd 2015
3
not as bad as the "journalists" who covered for that one-ball womanizer
Apr 23rd 2015
9
      uhhhh, yeah. covering for a woman beater is worse
Apr 23rd 2015
11
      What do you mean by "covering for?"
Apr 23rd 2015
14
           nearly every journalist i've seen has done one of two things
Apr 24th 2015
20
                I don't see it that way at all.
Apr 24th 2015
21
                     you won't see me claiming that the NFL is perfect,
Apr 24th 2015
22
                          Well, you kinda prove you're full of shit here.
Apr 24th 2015
23
                               have i spoken on jameis?
Apr 24th 2015
25
                                    Cool, so it's 100% about the court to you?
Apr 24th 2015
28
                                         You can keep acting like I'm a representative for all white people
Apr 24th 2015
32
                                              If anything, you're in the top 1% of cool, fair, smart white dudes
Apr 24th 2015
36
                                                   I'm also not sure why you require everyone to comment
Apr 24th 2015
40
                                                        The lack of consistenty muddies the conversation
Apr 24th 2015
43
      Womanizing is a Lifetime term.
Apr 23rd 2015
16
           fair enough
Apr 24th 2015
30
Don't we ask NFL players, NBA players, and others about domestic abuse?
Apr 23rd 2015
13
That's the issue, though. What do we mean by "standard."
Apr 23rd 2015
17
I don't think it is necessary to question Mayweather on these issues but
Apr 24th 2015
26
      It's because he's spectacular at his job
Apr 24th 2015
45
The vast majority of American doesn't know nearly as much as you think.
Apr 23rd 2015
4
Don't hate on a network trying to get ratings.
Apr 23rd 2015
5
Because he's a polarizing figure who gets ratings
Apr 23rd 2015
6
But you're fine with ESPN's double standard on domestic violence?
Apr 23rd 2015
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      I do have a problem w it, but ESPN isn't morality based
Apr 23rd 2015
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      What double standard are you referring to?
Apr 23rd 2015
10
I don't think it's that, it's more that ESPN is pedestrian re: boxing
Apr 23rd 2015
12
that's prolly my main issue with that network:
Apr 23rd 2015
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This is sort where I am.
Apr 23rd 2015
19
salty?
Apr 23rd 2015
18
Oh, and if any of y'all have ever seen a Sean Penn movie*, stop talking....
Apr 24th 2015
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And there's the whole PED thing too
Apr 24th 2015
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Why is HBO for beating women??
Apr 24th 2015
29
Why is the Academy Awards serving as his mouthpiece?
Apr 24th 2015
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      You guys are weird man. Floyd has been a terrible person
Apr 24th 2015
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           keep the same intensity (c) basa
Apr 24th 2015
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           Nobody said otherwise, Albert Einstein.
Apr 24th 2015
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                you were on a weird Sean Penn tangent, which is weird
Apr 24th 2015
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                     True. Clear thinking like mine is very weird.
Apr 24th 2015
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                          Hypocritical, sure, but Floyd is still kind of a shit bag
Apr 24th 2015
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                               Nah, I'm pretty sure he's more than "kind of" a shitbag.
Apr 24th 2015
42
I saw 20 minutes of he secret life of walter mitty
Apr 26th 2015
51
Floyd not looking at the road while driving/arguing w/Steven A about NBA
Apr 24th 2015
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Wreck it buy a new one
Apr 27th 2015
54
Floyd fans not used to him getting all this mainstream coverage lol
Apr 24th 2015
44
Deadspin on Stephen A
Apr 25th 2015
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my god, just watched that segment at his house
Apr 26th 2015
49
.
Apr 25th 2015
47
floyd still making mediocre white people mad. another w.
Apr 25th 2015
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This + the I'm better than Ali....marketing mastermind
Apr 26th 2015
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it's kinda amazing ESPN walked so blindly into this
Apr 26th 2015
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and because I need to say it again: motherfuck Michelle Beadle.
Apr 26th 2015
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1. "yeah, it is hard to watch Stephen A. sucking Floyd off on those "
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2. "Why do we need to see Floyd asked about beating women?"
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What purpose does that serve? Who wants to see that?

Floyd's attitude and lifestyle have made pre fight hype shows must watch tv for the longest idk where the mystery is.

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3. "A few things"
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Thu Apr-23-15 02:29 PM by B9

          

1) Mayweather's lifestyle outside the ring, as decadent as it is, is nothing new at this point. Everyone knows he has money, he spends money, he's all about money. Also, everyone knows that, like pretty much every boxer before him, he sees himself as infallible. So why are these sorts of pieces interesting to you unless you just like looking at cars or marveling at another man's wealth?

2) You ask the question for a few reasons. If you're as chicken shit of a "journalist" or whatever the fuck Stephen A. is any more, and you breach the topic of his persona and his detractors in order for Mayweather to speak to them and say "I don't care" (see above), don't be such a wimp to say that the hate is all about his money and attitude. GO THERE or don't talk about how he's perceived, because he's not really telling half the story stopping short of his legal troubles. Also, you ask the question, as an employee for ESPN, since you (rightfully) devoted so much time recently to covering the role of domestic violence in professional sports, (rightfully) demonizing both perpetrators and those that minimize and cover it up. Softballing and not addressing it, directly to his face, makes them hypocritical at best, chicken-shit and disingenuous more realistically, criminally propagandizing at worst.

  

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9. "not as bad as the "journalists" who covered for that one-ball womanizer"
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11. "uhhhh, yeah. covering for a woman beater is worse"
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than covering for a womanizer. how is that even a question?

  

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14. "What do you mean by "covering for?" "
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20. "nearly every journalist i've seen has done one of two things"
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a) painted him as rehabilitated after he got out of jail, when the details of that case were very troubling and don't hint at a guy who can radically change his views on women in a couple months.

b) gone with the story that the allegations are unproven, blown out of proportion, or some sort of misunderstanding, even though he's been convicted several times and clearly has a history of this.

compare that to Michael Vick, who's done everything in his power to rehabilitate his image, and whose attempts at rehabilitation come across as absolutely genuine. to this day, there are people who want to see him crucified, and that was just some dogs.

mayweather is a cash cow in a sport that's not doing that well. guys like michael vick or ray rice can get slaughtered by the press and the NFL will move on, but boxing journalists know where their bread is buttered so they go along with this garbage.

to basa's point, how many womanizers in sports are called out compared to woman-beaters? not many. it happens, sure. people freaked out about tiger woods, for example, but that's not the norm.

  

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21. "I don't see it that way at all. "
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>a) painted him as rehabilitated after he got out of jail,
>when the details of that case were very troubling and don't
>hint at a guy who can radically change his views on women in a
>couple months.

Nah, I see him being painted as a troubled guy who served his
time and is trying to continue to do his job.

That's how he's being painted to me.

>b) gone with the story that the allegations are unproven,
>blown out of proportion, or some sort of misunderstanding,
>even though he's been convicted several times and clearly has
>a history of this.

Don't see that at all.

I think you're just white.

You never said any of this about Ben Rothlisberger.



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22. "you won't see me claiming that the NFL is perfect,"
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or that white athletes generally don't have more apologists than black athletes, or that roethlisberger isn't most likely a piece of shit rapist who got off. i believe all of those things to be true. i also believe boxing journalists have gone out of their way to ignore or brush over mayweather's transgressions because he makes the sport a lot of money. he's got a history that an athlete who wasn't such a cash cow would get murdered for.

>Nah, I see him being painted as a troubled guy who served his
>
>time and is trying to continue to do his job.
>
>That's how he's being painted to me.

even if that's the case it's still troubling given his history. and they've let him say that all the allegations were unproven even though he's been convicted several times. they let him trot out that story and rachel nichols and deadspin are practically the only ones who questioned him on it. had he never commented on it i'd give the press more of a pass, but he has commented on it, and he lied.

  

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23. "Well, you kinda prove you're full of shit here. "
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Look what you said about Rothlisberger:

"most likely a piece of shit rapist"

You never spoke that way ("most likely") about Jameis, and
Big Ben has MULTIPLE charges.


>even if that's the case it's still troubling given his
>history. and they've let him say that all the allegations were
>unproven even though he's been convicted several times. they
>let him trot out that story and rachel nichols and deadspin
>are practically the only ones who questioned him on it. had he
>never commented on it i'd give the press more of a pass, but
>he has commented on it, and he lied.

No, Einstein...MAYWEATHER WENT TO JAIL. That's the point.

He isn't Big Ben or Jameis or Greg Hardy.

HE SERVED HIS TIME. That's the point.

If you THINK he should serve MORE TIME, then FINE. SAY THAT
SPECIFICALLY.

But UNLIKE these other cases, he WENT TO COURT and WENT TO
JAIL.

Unless you think he shouldn't be afforded the right to make
a living for what he is great at, then I'm going to have ask
you put aside your white hurt feelings and watch him be better
at his job than either of us are at ours.

And LOL @ all these judgements about how he has or has not
changed.

I don't know.

I know he did some fucked up shit.

I know, unlike Big Ben, Floyd went to JAIL, served time for it.

I don't have the legal expertise or the moral stamina to be
able to tell whether he's served enough time or not.

And I'm not going to pretend that all crimes are created equal.

So no, going to jail isn't the end all, be all. Maybe we should
hate him forever. I'm okay with that.

I'm talking about two things:

a) The idea that he's being painted as reformed (false)

b) The lack of consistency with regards to how you're talking
about him (not just you, but a lot of white people) and the
way y'all talked about Ben Roth.



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25. "have i spoken on jameis?"
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if i have it was probably strictly on the TPD's handling of the case, which was atrocious whether he's guilty or not, but i honestly don't think i've delved into that on OKS (don't comment on college sports much in general). the "most likely" for Big ben is because i tend to tread lightly on charges or allegations that aren't convictions, which qualifies for both. floyd has actual convictions, so i don't mind saying definitively that he's a piece of shit woman beater.

>Unless you think he shouldn't be afforded the right to make
>a living for what he is great at,

never even hinted at that, I just don't think the media should let him lie about these cases when he has actual convictions. that's specifically NOT rehabilitation. like i said, i consider Vick to have gone above and beyond what i consider rehabilitation, yet people still won't stfu about that.

>And LOL @ all these judgements about how he has or has not
>changed.
>
>I don't know.

watch the rachel nichols interview. seriously. he either hasn't changed or he hasn't proven he has. again, that's the opposite of Vick's situation where everyone yells at him to prove he's rehabilitated, he does so, and they still yell that he isn't.

>a) The idea that he's being painted as reformed (false)

fair enough. to me it's less about what they've said than what they've allowed him to say with little questioning. the details of the cases should give anyone pause, yet to this day he acts like they were unproven. on top of that, he has still shown himself to have a generally shitty attitude towards women.

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/news/a26823/floyd-mayweather-disrespect/

http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/02/floyd-mayweather-shantel-jackson-twitter-abortion-instagram-radio-shame-deserves/

even if you take the first as relatively innocuous and the second as specific to his relationship, they should rightly be questioned when you're known for domestic violence.

>
>b) The lack of consistency with regards to how you're talking
>about him (not just you, but a lot of white people) and the
>way y'all talked about Ben Roth.

I've never been a fan of Big Ben, I think he's likely guilty, and I think he has far too many apologists in the media and the fans. the problem is I can't say he's guilty for sure so I'm not going to light the torches and meet you in the public square. if you can point me to where i was an apologist for him i'd be glad to concede this point, but you can't because I never was. To reiterate, I think he's guilty, but can't point to a conviction or video evidence or anything else definitive. On the other hand, Floyd has actual convictions. Plural. And for a crime like domestic violence it's not often that a guy who has multiple convictions comes out rehabilitated after a couple months in jail. His actions since have suggested he isn't.

  

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28. "Cool, so it's 100% about the court to you? "
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Because Greg Hardy just walked free.

Not as bad as Floyd or naw? Or as bad because he
was first convicted, then not?

The NFL suspended Ben Rothlisberger because they
realized he was a moderately terrible person, and
the Steelers played like they were upset but realized
they were lucky to get off that easy given Ben's
MULTIPLE INFRACTIONS

But now you're playing this "he's likely probably
a bad person?"

Naw, dog.

You white.

And you're saying you're harder on Floyd than Ben
because of what the court said?

And strangely, that Floyd was formally punished and
SERVED some time...shouldn't that make you HARDER
on Ben and Hardy and all these other people who
do terrible things and never serve a day? Floyd was
PUNISHED for his crimes. So being punished means we're
supposed to be HARDER on him?

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32. "You can keep acting like I'm a representative for all white people"
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but you know I'm not, and that my views are actually pretty nuanced.

>Because Greg Hardy just walked free.

and everyone's been mad about him for a year now. like after the ray rice thing a couple people were like "why aren't we outraged about greg hardy?" and then most people haven't let up on him since. he doesn't really have any apologists outside of the panthers org.

>But now you're playing this "he's likely probably
>a bad person?"

uhhhh, yeah. Cause I'm like 99% sure he did it, but that other 1% is enough for me to not grab my pitchfork. Without a conviction or video or any other definitive proof I follow the "innocent until proven guilty" thing. Not enough people do imo. Am I trusting him around any female family members or friends of mine? No. I'm just not grabbing the pitchfork just in case he's innocent. I know dudes who have been accused of awful shit who didn't do it. Their life can be ruined even without a conviction. That being said, I am inclined to believe women on these accusations more often than not. The likelihood that any given woman is making it all up is much smaller than people like to believe, but it does happen sometimes. Maybe if I knew the accuser personally and knew her to be a truthful person I would be calling for his head, but as such, I can't.

See? That's a lot more nuance than you're giving me credit for.

>And you're saying you're harder on Floyd than Ben
>because of what the court said?

uhhhh, yeah. Cause I'm 100% sure he did it. Cause he did. Yet he continues to lie about it and all the other cases. If he copped to it and said he was trying to change I'd go a lot easier on him, and if the media didn't brush over his lies I'd be a lot easier on them.

>And strangely, that Floyd was formally punished and
>SERVED some time...shouldn't that make you HARDER
>on Ben and Hardy and all these other people who
>do terrible things and never serve a day? Floyd was
>PUNISHED for his crimes. So being punished means we're
>supposed to be easier on him?
>
>Oh, okay.

It's not about prison, I've made it clear that it's about how the media has covered his prison sentence and various convictions. Also, if we're talking about his sentences, his other convictions received extremely light sentences. I'm looking at his whole history, not just the one thing. That's another thing I've made clear.

and lol @ you ignoring my valid points about how Vick is treated compared to this... but I'm just a typical white dude with typical white dude views, right?

  

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36. "If anything, you're in the top 1% of cool, fair, smart white dudes"
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Which is why I'm hard on you, pause

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40. "I'm also not sure why you require everyone to comment"
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on every woman beater and awful person FIRST before addressing Floyd. That's weird to me, and it would be exhausting if any of us did so. It's not necessarily a double standard if I don't show up in every post about awful people, I just think the boxing media has especially gone out of their way to ignore his obviously awful past. I'm also not afraid to go after anyone. Bill Cosby was a personal hero of mine and a huge influence on my career. Now I know his true colors (yes, he's never been convicted, but 20+ accusations simply don't just show up out of nowhere) and I can't ignore how he painted himself as the perfect family man and had everyone fooled.

  

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43. "The lack of consistenty muddies the conversation"
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Because white women bash Michael Vick and Floyd, and coddle
Ben Roth and Sean Penn, I can't participate in it, which makes
ME look like I support violence against women

Noooo. I'm saying either you want to protect women, or you
don't. Don't give me this sliding scale multiple standards
bullshit.

That's my issue

If we're going to talk, let's talk

Let's talk about protecting women from terrible people

Let's not color with OTHER biases because then the conversation
is more about how racist we and not about the issue of protecting
women

That's all I'm saying

>on every woman beater and awful person FIRST before
>addressing Floyd. That's weird to me, and it would be
>exhausting if any of us did so. It's not necessarily a double
>standard if I don't show up in every post about awful people,
>I just think the boxing media has especially gone out of their
>way to ignore his obviously awful past. I'm also not afraid to
>go after anyone. Bill Cosby was a personal hero of mine and a
>huge influence on my career. Now I know his true colors (yes,
>he's never been convicted, but 20+ accusations simply don't
>just show up out of nowhere) and I can't ignore how he painted
>himself as the perfect family man and had everyone fooled.


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16. "Womanizing is a Lifetime term. "
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30. "fair enough"
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13. "Don't we ask NFL players, NBA players, and others about domestic abuse?"
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not only do we "ask" - we suspend/expel and publicly ridicule guys who exhibit regressive moral behavior in other sports.

Boxers shouldn't be held to a different standard. It'd be healthy for the sport if the general public and media approached boxers as regular human beings (just like all other professional athletes) - but we've sort of allowed this circus show of "well they are animals anyway so what do you expect" mentality when it comes to boxers.

Floyd should have to answer to those questions - and he has. He did his time in jail and seems to have moved on from it. But we do him and the sport no favors by not holding them to high standards re: ethics and morality.

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17. "That's the issue, though. What do we mean by "standard.""
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I remember Lebron James' post-decision disapproval
rating was higher (as in, he was more disliked) than
Ben Rothlisberger's post rape...and unlike Jameis, Ben has
MULTIPLE incidents...he got asked some questions, but was treated
with kid gloves...4 game suspension, and everyone felt pretty
sorry for him.

Floyd did *actual* time.

So why should we "move on" from Rothlisberger (who
NEVER has to answer questions about it, barely had
to at the time) and not everyone else?

So what, exactly, do we mean by "standard?"

  

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26. "I don't think it is necessary to question Mayweather on these issues but"
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I do find it deplorable to promote this man like he's the second coming.

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45. "It's because he's spectacular at his job"
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>I do find it deplorable to promote this man like he's the
>second coming.

And is a self made almost billionaire, who defied the
odds to build his wealth.

He have no problem overlooking domestic abuse in the case
of white people, and focus on their gifts

Either have the entire conversation, or don't have it.

Because you're not protecting women. You're just being mad
at the rich black guy.

  

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4. "The vast majority of American doesn't know nearly as much as you think. "
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So this is the first up close look from the everyday
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5. "Don't hate on a network trying to get ratings."
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Floyd brings in ratings. People love looking at him as a villain.

People ask him about beating women/lack of respect for women because that gets clicks as well. Cari Champion is cool but I don't want to hear anything about him beating women because it comes across as another ratings grab. Why wasn't ESPN on this angle a year and a half ago. Two weeks before the fight it's time to revisit Floyd's past? GTFOH and take a new angle.

Show another side of Floyd besides the easy ones. Humanize him in a way others have failed to accomplish.

*Notices Pac doesn't receive the same treatment*

  

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6. "Because he's a polarizing figure who gets ratings"
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People watch it either to nod their head like "yeh, this dude is doing his thing".....or "fuck that dude" while seething and eating their cheerios.

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<--The drought is over

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"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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7. "But you're fine with ESPN's double standard on domestic violence? "
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And I seriously doubt this "it gets ratings" thing applies to Sports Center, which is pretty much the only morning sports highlight show going currently with two major sports playoff packages to run through (why I've been watching).

  

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8. "I do have a problem w it, but ESPN isn't morality based"
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As a company, they are about one thing....increased revenue, higher ratings...even if already high, SC editors are still basing a lot of their content on "how do we get even higher ratings?"...that's media in a nutshell, especially in the TV market. That's why they have a relative focus on polarizing/big-market/popular teams, players, etc...Mayweather certainly falls into that category.

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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10. "What double standard are you referring to? "
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12. "I don't think it's that, it's more that ESPN is pedestrian re: boxing"
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All of the top ESPN commentators (except for kellerman and atlas) are laymen when it comes to boxing, so they just don't know what else to do.

Hearing PTI discussing boxing is comical. Skip doesn't even know who Miguel Cotto is.

So they just try lazily cover the sport and cover the big-name stories - which is naturally Floyd "Money" Mayweather and another tour of his car collection.

Thanks Dan Rafael.

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15. "that's prolly my main issue with that network:"
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too much of their on-air talent are these guys who they try to
pass off as jack-of-all-trades types who are knowledgeable on
every sport, and it's evident when these dudes speak as if they're
experts in areas where they are painfully and obviously lacking.

their specialized content is way way better but those "umbrella"
guys that they trot out for everything are the worst, with their
bullshit vague musings and stanning passing as analysis.




>All of the top ESPN commentators (except for kellerman and
>atlas) are laymen when it comes to boxing, so they just don't
>know what else to do.
>
>Hearing PTI discussing boxing is comical. Skip doesn't even
>know who Miguel Cotto is.
>
>So they just try lazily cover the sport and cover the big-name
>stories - which is naturally Floyd "Money" Mayweather and
>another tour of his car collection.
>
>Thanks Dan Rafael.
>
>-->

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19. "This is sort where I am."
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From a personal life/politics perspective, I know enough about both of these guys to find nothing compelling or identifiable in their characters and plenty to find fault with. So if you are going to spend a week talking about one of them on your flagship show, show me what IS compelling: their gym prep, their strategy, their scouting. If you want to reduce Mayweather to his lifestyle as you present him outside the ring, ESPECIALLY in the wake of the attention ESPN (rightfully) paid to Ray Rice, talk about all of it or talk about none of it.

  

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18. "salty?"
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24. "Oh, and if any of y'all have ever seen a Sean Penn movie*, stop talking...."
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Like, now.

I don't want to see NOBODY talking bad about Floyd if you've
EVER seen a Sean Penn movie*


*Movies sometime after 1990, most likely, as that's when
he was beating Madonna with a baseball bat

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27. "And there's the whole PED thing too"
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29. "Why is HBO for beating women??"
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31. "Why is the Academy Awards serving as his mouthpiece? "
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People are such fucking hypocrits

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33. "You guys are weird man. Floyd has been a terrible person"
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It's pretty well documented.

If you want to contrast some unfair treatment, you don't even need to reach so hard for Sean Penn, you can just look at his opponent in this fight. Paq has kind of revealed himself to be not nearly as shiny as his public image would have you believe. Somehow his insane political views and gambling and womanizing get swept under the rug, though.

I don't really care either way. I just want to watch these two assholes punch each other in the face.

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34. "keep the same intensity (c) basa"
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that's all it is.

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35. "Nobody said otherwise, Albert Einstein. "
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Chill out
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37. "you were on a weird Sean Penn tangent, which is weird"
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i'm not mad about it, just noting that you are weird.

Sucks that espn is helping him whitewash his image a bit, but they do that to most pro athletes with talent and fame. No need to defend them on it though. ESPN is grimey,and so is floyd, but Sean Penn... that's weird, son.

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38. "True. Clear thinking like mine is very weird. "
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Dumb, blind, hostile ignorant and biased? Very normal.

So yeah, I'm with you.

Weird how liberal white women have coddled Sean Penn, ain't it?

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41. "Hypocritical, sure, but Floyd is still kind of a shit bag"
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42. "Nah, I'm pretty sure he's more than "kind of" a shitbag. "
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But yeah, I'm a live nigga.


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51. "I saw 20 minutes of he secret life of walter mitty"
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000576/


pretty sure that's it, I didn't even realize that was penn til I read the IMDB list.

fuck floyd. has he been arrested for beating up a dude outside of the ring or does he save that shit for the ladies?

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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39. "Floyd not looking at the road while driving/arguing w/Steven A about NBA"
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is more entertaining than just about anything on Sportscenter these days.

https://soundcloud.com/matt-koelling-666011203

www.somethinginthewudder.com

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https://www.facebook.com/matt.koelling.96

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-koelling-438a80

  

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54. "Wreck it buy a new one"
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44. "Floyd fans not used to him getting all this mainstream coverage lol"
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http://deadspin.com/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-stephen-a-smith-1700198846

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Stephen A. Smith is the ultimate low-hanging fruit. His job is to be low-hanging fruit; just noticing anything he says feels like dead-horse beating. But over the past few weeks, Stephen A. has transformed himself from garden-variety shill and troll into a kind of cartoonish super-troll. He’s the ultimate embodiment of a comment section men’s rights activist crossed with some sort of distorted, unentertaining version of Virgil, the unquestioning bodyguard of wrestling’s Million Dollar Man. He is Super-MRAn.

Stephen A. has been in Floyd Mayweather’s pocket for a long time. Back in 2010, Mayweather found out that Josie Harris, the mother of his three of his children and his former fiancée, was dating NBA guard C.J. Watson—a matter he confirmed by going through her iPhone without permission to find text messages. Mayweather and Harris were no longer a couple at this time, and Mayweather was living with and engaged to another woman, but, still unable to contain his jealousy, he went to Harris’s home at 5:00 a.m., with a member of his entourage in tow, and proceeded to beat her and threaten her life in front of two of their children. (Both subsequently confirmed the matter to police and in recent interviews). Mayweather fled the home before police arrived but took the cell phone, a common tactic of batterers, to prevent Harris from reaching out to her new boyfriend. The evidence against Mayweather was overwhelming and damning—he eventually copped a plea to avoid more serious charges—and given his already-lengthy rap sheet for domestic violence, the whole affair was unfortunately entirely in keeping with his character.


Except, apparently, to Stephen A:

@stephenasmith:
Let me say this: I'm hard pressed to believe Floyd Mayweather Jr. Put his hands on a woman, and I damn sure don't believe he committed Grand


@stephenasmith:
Hands on anyone, least of all a woman. As for Grand Larceny, come on! Sounds like he may have taken something BACK from a woman out of anger


@stephenasmith: Pro sports does enough to make us look like pigs w/o you advising "the ladies" & suspending judgement on Floyd. Pls stop it.

@stephenasmith: @steelytrip To hell with you. Don't evade the reports that this Grand Larceny charge is over a damn iPod. It's not about a woman. It's about

@nekabaw32: @stephenasmith What's wrong with a good looking working woman with goals and aspirations? Guys like Mayweather don't want that type

@stephenasmith: @nekabaw32 Please. Let's no discount the women out there who want someone like Mayweather strictly for the cash. Men ain't wrong ALWAYS.



Stephen A. Smith had trouble believing that Floyd Mayweather, who had already been involved in six incidents involving five different women that led to arrest or citation before the Harris beating took place, had “put his hands on a woman.” He mocked the idea that Floyd had stolen an “iPod,” when in fact he’d engaged in the common batterer tactic of stealing his victim’s only means of communication with her support network. And, worst of all, he suggested that Josie Harris, lying in the hospital with cuts, bruises and a concussion, the mother of three of Floyd’s children, was inventing the story to extort money from the boxer. It was repulsive on every level.

Smith’s position on domestic violence didn’t mature after that rant, either. Most famously, last year, when discussing the Ray Rice controversy, he suggested that it was common for battered women to provoke the violence against them. (He was implying that Janay Rice was responsible for having been knocked unconscious.) This led to an immediate and deserved outcry, culminating with popular ESPNer Michelle Beadle publicly expressing her disgust at having to share an outlet with Smith. The network had no choice: it suspended Smith, who offered a lame apology and briefly kept his mouth shut on the subject.

Alas, he did so only briefly. While his colleagues John Barr and Bob Ley were preparing an epic Outside the Lines report on Mayweather’s documented history of abuse, Smith was spending his time oooohing and ahhhing at Mayweather’s car collection for a piece which ESPN would elect to give better airtimes and more prominent positioning online than the substantive, damning OTL broadcast. And that wasn’t all he was doing.

In an April 8 episode of First Take—it for whatever reason only started getting around today, as Awful Announcing explains here, but better late than never—Smith complained about coverage (like, well, ours) that exposes Mayweather’s history of “alleged” (his word) domestic abuse. Smith was particularly upset that Manny Pacquiao claimed he was going to use that history as motivation to teach Mayweather a lesson, something Smith felt was unsporting to say. Turning to host Cari Champion, Smith continued, “When you take the position that you take, Cari, I have no problem with it. You’re a woman, you should feel that way.”



Champion explained that her position was based on both Mayweather’s documented—not “alleged”—history of domestic violence and his generally misogynistic attitude towards women. Smith doubled down on his position. “Her position is clear. Because she’s a woman, and this is how she feels.”

There you have it. According to Smith, the only people who can or should hold Mayweather’s history of domestic abuse, misogyny, and being protected by the media against him are women. And since women’s opinions clearly have little to do with boxing, it was upsetting to Smith to see Pacquiao inject them into this fight.

ESPN howls when the subject of their Mayweather coverage comes up. When our Tim Burke wrote a piece the other day asking why the network was acting as the boxer’s promotional mouthpiece in a heavily-promoted infomercial masquerading as news coverage, ESPNers raged about how Stephen A. doesn’t represent them or the network. The former is true: Keith Olbermann, Sarah Spain, and Michelle Beadle have all called for boycotts of Mayweather’s fights, and they, along with others like the first-rate journalists at OTL, deserve credit for confronting the fact that Floyd Mayweather is a serial batterer. ESPN, as they like to say, is not a monolith.

The fact remains, though, that for years ESPN has downplayed and ignored Floyd Mayweather’s history of domestic violence. It’s allowed boxing correspondent Dan Rafael to largely pass it over when not treating it as a character-building exercise. It’s allowed Stephen A. Smith to smear the victims and promote Mayweather in a special that will be aired on ABC. And we now see that just a couple of weeks ago it allowed him to use its broadcast time to state outright, as a defense of the champion, that domestic violence is an issue for women and, by implication, women alone—a statement so nakedly indecent that it would get you kicked off most online message boards, let alone network airwaves.

Stephen A. Smith is not a journalist. He is not a sports fan. He is, to all appearances, a shill auditioning for a job with Mayweather’s organization once ESPN inevitably gives him the boot. That day cannot come soon enough. Until it does, everything he does comes with the approval and imprimatur of the world’s most powerful sports broadcaster, and it will taint everything else they do.

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49. "my god, just watched that segment at his house"
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That was horrendous. And they had a woman introduce it too.

  

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48. "floyd still making mediocre white people mad. another w."
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52. "it's kinda amazing ESPN walked so blindly into this"
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to have the same dude who was tweeting calling floyd's victim a gold digger, turn around and lead the coverage of the fight.

seems like an avoidable problem.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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53. "and because I need to say it again: motherfuck Michelle Beadle."
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