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"Wrestling Post: Royal Rumble to Fast Lane (???)"


  

          

the road to Wrestlemania starts tonight....

Tonight's Card
The New Age Outlaws vs. The Ascension

Paige and Natalya vs. The Bella Twins

The Usos vs The Miz and Damien Mizdow for the WWE Tag Team Championships

Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena vs. Seth Rollins in a Triple Threat Match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship

2015 30-man Royal Rumble Match



We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

  

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Good, glad they booked The Ascension to win....
Jan 25th 2015
1
RE: Good, glad they booked The Ascension to win....
Jan 25th 2015
2
If Paige and Sheamus had a baby it would be invisible.
Jan 25th 2015
3
Tag title match was fun, but the Usos need a new opponent now
Jan 25th 2015
4
Kidd and Cesaro?
Jan 25th 2015
7
      That's who I'm hoping for
Jan 25th 2015
10
           Theyre growing on me (Kidd/Cesaro)
Jan 25th 2015
11
                RE: Theyre growing on me (Kidd/Cesaro)
Jan 25th 2015
16
Yo, that divas tag match was really great
Jan 25th 2015
5
two matches left, two hours to go
Jan 25th 2015
6
There has to be a cool down match.....
Jan 25th 2015
8
brock throwing niggas around will always be entertaining.
Jan 25th 2015
9
This match is everything I hoped it would be.....
Jan 25th 2015
12
Rollins...
Jan 25th 2015
15
Everything about that match was fucking awesome
Jan 25th 2015
13
it really was
Jan 25th 2015
19
Rollins really is the future.
Jan 25th 2015
14
RE: Rollins really is the future.
Jan 25th 2015
17
3D!!!!
Jan 25th 2015
18
Bubba!
Jan 25th 2015
20
Bray Wyatt whooping ass so far......
Jan 25th 2015
21
Yep! Super into it, too
Jan 25th 2015
23
dbry got that AE pop
Jan 25th 2015
22
i cant believe i remember that DDP theme after so long.
Jan 25th 2015
24
And with that I think I'll go to bed
Jan 25th 2015
25
yeah they already fucked this up
Jan 25th 2015
27
Ballsy move by WWE to piss off the crowd with half the Rumble left to go...
Jan 25th 2015
26
philly coming through with them boos for reigns
Jan 25th 2015
28
Welp, I guess I'll wait and see how this plays out tonight
Jan 25th 2015
29
lol @ vince pissing off smarks everywhere
Jan 25th 2015
30
Reigns is the obvious win.
Jan 25th 2015
31
^^^winner......
Jan 25th 2015
35
only an ambrose or ziggler win would really salvage it.
Jan 25th 2015
32
oh my god that was worse than i couldve imagined.
Jan 25th 2015
33
lololololol....
Jan 26th 2015
75
Glad this was free on the Network....
Jan 25th 2015
34
hilarious how people have turned on roman
Jan 25th 2015
36
RE: hilarious how people have turned on roman
Jan 25th 2015
45
      that's the silliest part of it all to me
Jan 25th 2015
46
RE: Wrestling Post: Royal Rumble to Fast Lane (???)
Jan 25th 2015
37
Can Rock be Reigns' mouthpiece for the next 2 months?
Jan 25th 2015
38
not unless you want alternating boos & cheers
Jan 25th 2015
40
"The worst rumble match since last year" -my roommate
Jan 25th 2015
39
last year, they cheered for him to win...this year he wins
Jan 25th 2015
41
what does that say about Batista? lol
Jan 26th 2015
what does that say about Batista? lol
Jan 26th 2015
54
      post x2
Jan 26th 2015
55
The way Wyatt, Ziggler, and Ambrose were eliminated was the worst
Jan 25th 2015
42
I will say that the way Ziggler sold that KO was absolutely beautiful.
Jan 25th 2015
43
they were too pussy to make reigns be the one to do it
Jan 25th 2015
44
      i took it as "Reigns will get over if he eliminates the guys...
Jan 26th 2015
86
Only caught glimpses. Seems as though the mood is sour.
Jan 26th 2015
47
#CancelWWENetwork is the #1 trending hashtag in the US.
Jan 26th 2015
48
RE: Philly crowd...
Jan 26th 2015
52
I feel bad for Reigns, b.
Jan 26th 2015
49
Co-Sign
Jan 26th 2015
62
      you're correct
Jan 26th 2015
88
           I heard him on the radio Friday and he did sound a little stiff
Jan 26th 2015
89
The way it was booked was actually evil genius (but it still failed)
Jan 26th 2015
50
This is the thought process they'll have to continue with I think...
Jan 26th 2015
51
      Why will Reigns vs Lesnar be good?
Jan 26th 2015
53
           I guess we're initially at odds...
Jan 26th 2015
56
#DeezNuts for the win!
Jan 26th 2015
57
I see you fam!
Jan 27th 2015
113
i'd LOVE to see Roman turn and join the authority now
Jan 26th 2015
58
Making Lesnar the face to heel Reigns is potentially the way to go
Jan 26th 2015
59
      hell u don't even have to change anything about brock now
Jan 26th 2015
79
Damn, this controversy made it to Time magazine....
Jan 26th 2015
60
I'm telling you... Rocky III is the way to promote Brock/Reigns
Jan 26th 2015
61
LOL - dude said he has to go watch tape!!!
Jan 26th 2015
65
RE: LOL - dude said he has to go watch tape!!!
Jan 27th 2015
103
that'd be decent if they flipped it like that old rock/brock promo
Jan 26th 2015
100
The whole backstage thing after the Rumble was a mess
Jan 26th 2015
63
I was waiting on Rock to call dude Hermie
Jan 26th 2015
64
Chance tonight's Raw in Hartford will be cancelled...
Jan 26th 2015
66
Might be a blessing in disguise for the WWE
Jan 26th 2015
70
      They should take a week off, do a mulligan on the rumble, and move on
Jan 26th 2015
91
It's just weird.
Jan 26th 2015
67
The problem with that scenario is that you get the same result
Jan 26th 2015
71
      It's really a fascinating scenario...
Jan 26th 2015
72
      Or why not just go with the guys who are actually over?
Jan 26th 2015
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           RE: Or why not just go with the guys who are actually over?
Jan 26th 2015
84
      They could have saved it. Keep Bryan in at least until Reigns is in.
Jan 26th 2015
81
           They rang the bell before Rusev even came back
Jan 26th 2015
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           And this was weird too:
Jan 26th 2015
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           Again, it wouldn't have mattered.
Jan 27th 2015
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Curtis Axel was never eliminated, this is bothering me.
Jan 26th 2015
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This has happened numerous times before, gotta let it go
Jan 26th 2015
69
he never entered.
Jan 26th 2015
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RE: he never entered.
Jan 26th 2015
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      I believe the "official rule"
Jan 26th 2015
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           RE: I believe the "official rule"
Jan 26th 2015
83
           makes sense, they also ban early entrances
Jan 26th 2015
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Hornswogle is still in the '08 rumble i believe
Jan 26th 2015
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      Dont.
Jan 26th 2015
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           ok.
Jan 26th 2015
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Oh, and Like Whoa!@Brock no-selling three straight AA's.
Jan 26th 2015
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Kicking out @ 1 was pretty great too.
Jan 26th 2015
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didnt the AA just pick up as a knockoff F5 anyway?
Jan 26th 2015
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Yup. Protobomb used to be his finisher
Jan 26th 2015
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Nah he just changed the name. It was more DVD-like at first
Jan 26th 2015
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      Right on both counts
Jan 29th 2015
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That's gotta be the biggest monster moment in history
Jan 26th 2015
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RE: #giveseththedamnbelt
Jan 26th 2015
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Yeah I'm hoping we get Seth/Orton at Mania.
Jan 26th 2015
99
Just turn Reigns heel...
Jan 26th 2015
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WHY WHY WHY
Jan 28th 2015
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I hope they don't have to do that...
Jan 29th 2015
126
Nice recovery for Reigns tonight. Heyman's going to sell this shit
Jan 27th 2015
102
Reigns was less corny for sure, but hearing him after Heyman didn't help
Jan 27th 2015
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Agreed.. He and Bryan put this all in perspective though
Jan 27th 2015
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      RE: Agreed.. He and Bryan put this all in perspective though
Jan 27th 2015
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           Fair point. I've been on a podcast binge since Christmas.
Jan 27th 2015
109
           I think the Shield could reunite for a minute during the match.
Jan 27th 2015
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                Way too early for that IMO.
Jan 27th 2015
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                     RE: Way too early for that IMO.
Jan 28th 2015
117
why even shake his hand lol
Jan 27th 2015
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I wanna front like that didn't work. But it did. Masterfully even.
Jan 27th 2015
110
shit dbry's gonna end up stuck w/ shameus for mania.
Jan 27th 2015
114
They actually have really good chemistry. I'd watch that match every wee...
Jan 27th 2015
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      i will never understand your love for shameus
Jan 28th 2015
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           I don't love his character. I love his *work*. I'm not alone in this.
Jan 28th 2015
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           When he's not trying to be "cool"
Jan 28th 2015
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                Do you catch an HBK/Razor vibe from them like I do?
Jan 28th 2015
125
I'm not really a fan of Daniel Bryan
Jan 28th 2015
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Bryan vs Brock is the best story to tell and the best possible match.
Jan 28th 2015
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      completely agree. And we'll now sadly never get it.
Jan 28th 2015
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      man, just thinking of that shit
Jan 29th 2015
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      i don't even watch, and i get that
Jan 29th 2015
129
           Bryan is the legit successor to Cena, except, you know, MUSCLES!!!!
Jan 29th 2015
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                The funniest part of that is that Cesaro is a more athletic
Jan 29th 2015
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                     Can you imagine him swingin Brock??
Jan 29th 2015
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                          It would be AMAZING. The crowd would lose their minds.
Jan 29th 2015
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                               And then the subsequent Brock no sell, lol
Jan 29th 2015
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                                    The missed opportunity on this is fucking mind blowing.
Jan 29th 2015
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                                    "Vince McMahon is a millionaire who should be a billionaire" - (c) CM Pu...
Jan 29th 2015
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                                    How they never got to Orton/Brock these last few years is truly maddenin...
Jan 31st 2015
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                                         RE: How they never got to Orton/Brock these last few years is truly madd...
Jan 31st 2015
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                                    Ha, brilliant!
Jan 30th 2015
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                                    It'd be even better with Swiss Death
Jan 30th 2015
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                                         holy shit... LMAO, that would be a scene EVERYONE talked about
Jan 30th 2015
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That Rock vs Brock Summer Slam match is one of my faves
Jan 28th 2015
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Love it too.Rock was never afraid to roll with a change of plans
Jan 30th 2015
160
damn i didn't even see all my typos lol
Jan 30th 2015
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eyebrow @ Network free for February
Jan 29th 2015
131
someone explain this to me RE the WWE network:
Jan 29th 2015
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LOL, wtf?!?!?!?!
Jan 29th 2015
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they even put it in WWE packaging LINK http://wrestlingnews.co/wp-conte...
Jan 29th 2015
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it's been a year.
Jan 29th 2015
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      Define ok.
Jan 29th 2015
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           we watched willy wonka with the kids
Jan 29th 2015
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                I have an appleTV and Roku
Jan 29th 2015
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                     worth it to buy a chromecast?
Jan 29th 2015
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                     yea
Jan 29th 2015
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                          it's cheap and easy to set-up
Jan 29th 2015
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                     $29-$35 u can use a cell phone and with to watch the following listed:
Jan 29th 2015
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                          Has to be an android phone?
Jan 29th 2015
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                               Chromecast is good with any mobile device
Jan 29th 2015
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                               no, any mobile phone, tablet, lap top. u just need wifi
Jan 29th 2015
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#punkwasright
Jan 30th 2015
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      1 million subscribers?
Jan 30th 2015
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      I kinda love the network
Jan 30th 2015
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           me too
Jan 30th 2015
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      Nope. Punk’s issue wasn’t the model, it was a lack of answers.
Jan 30th 2015
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hmmm meltzer says Reigns and Rocky aren't truly cousins
Jan 29th 2015
141
*Paging david Tua*
Jan 29th 2015
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Peter Maivia was considered a 'blood brother' of Amituana Anoa'i
Jan 29th 2015
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i understand all that. i'm speaking biology
Jan 29th 2015
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And I'm speaking about it being a non story.
Jan 30th 2015
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      it wasn't spoken as a story. it was just an fact of him talking about
Jan 30th 2015
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           and considering the anderson brothers, edge christian, Lance Von Erich.
Jan 30th 2015
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u know what tho, i actually thought, a long time ago they should
Jan 29th 2015
148
Pacific Islanders, man.
Jan 29th 2015
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Ha.
Jan 30th 2015
167
rumor has it they were planning Bryan vs. Sheamus at WM again
Feb 02nd 2015
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WWE logic as sound as always
Feb 02nd 2015
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well, look, I actually think it SORT OF makes sense...
Feb 03rd 2015
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It's actually great logic. Why give up his trump card?
Feb 03rd 2015
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eh, the way they explained it to rollins made sense
Feb 03rd 2015
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Stone Cold is too trill man.
Feb 03rd 2015
176
is it me or did SCSA get real fat
Feb 03rd 2015
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      U, he's fit
Feb 03rd 2015
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So Monday was Reigns first pinfall loss in singles comp since FCW.
Feb 03rd 2015
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Reigns/Rusev at Mania = best idea you ever had bruh
Feb 03rd 2015
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I assume that loss is about making him more well-rounded...
Feb 04th 2015
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      I don't care about the loss. They blew a huge selling point
Feb 04th 2015
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           Nah dude...
Feb 05th 2015
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                sounds like a huge ...
Feb 07th 2015
249
I don't want this to come off pro-chyna but.....
Feb 03rd 2015
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Hmmmmm no? And who raped who?
Feb 03rd 2015
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Mike Tyson went to jail for rape right?
Feb 03rd 2015
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      The facts of the case cast significant doubt on that. That was a bad con...
Feb 03rd 2015
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           Not sure Waltman qualifies regardless.
Feb 03rd 2015
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           He'll get in with DX
Feb 03rd 2015
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                if he gets in with DX and not her, it's simply blatant sexism. n/m
Feb 04th 2015
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                     Nah. I'd say it's just plain hard feelings.
Feb 04th 2015
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                     I was kinda shocked Stone Cold asked
Feb 04th 2015
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                     Well, he shouldn't get in for the same reason as Chyna.
Feb 04th 2015
                          Why do you think I brought him up? Clearly, I remembered. know that.
Feb 04th 2015
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                          Please recheck to whom I just replied.
Feb 04th 2015
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                               Ah shit. My bad.
Feb 04th 2015
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                          right, that's what i meant.
Feb 04th 2015
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           I was just makin the point that it his answer was bs
Feb 04th 2015
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                I'm just saying Tyson is a bad example
Feb 04th 2015
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                     1. he's a convicted rapist. 2. look up that hot coffee case
Feb 04th 2015
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                     hto coffee documentary http://youtu.be/KmEYWCg0J7Q
Feb 04th 2015
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                     Yeah, I saw that. She deserved every penny and more.
Feb 04th 2015
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                          man the media and politicians did her wrong
Feb 04th 2015
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                     1. Tyson was wrongly convicted. 2. I know all about Hot Coffee
Feb 04th 2015
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                          ehhh legally he's a convict.
Feb 04th 2015
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                               Ehhhhhhhh sorry but the facts actually matter.
Feb 04th 2015
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                     Thats all fine but it is not a bad example regarding the point I'm makin...
Feb 04th 2015
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                          Yes, it's a terrible example.
Feb 04th 2015
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                               Tell it to the kids please.
Feb 04th 2015
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                                    We're not talking to kids, we're talking to each other.
Feb 04th 2015
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                                         but HHH's point is about reputation, not the video
Feb 04th 2015
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i haven't listened to the interview yet
Feb 04th 2015
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      There's a clear distinction between today's product and yesterdays
Feb 04th 2015
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           But if the WWE has done crazy shit and it's up on the network
Feb 04th 2015
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I know it's an impossible question for Steve to ask but...
Feb 04th 2015
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Again, I refuse to believe Hunter is that stupid
Feb 04th 2015
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      RE: Again, I refuse to believe Hunter is that stupid
Feb 04th 2015
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one of the biggest slaps in the face to me. is how titus o'neil was
Feb 04th 2015
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while I agree with you
Feb 04th 2015
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And he got time to tell the world he deserves Brock
Feb 04th 2015
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And he got his ass beat right after
Feb 04th 2015
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Its like they book some guys with OKS-level agendas
Feb 04th 2015
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axel needs a repackaging and a mouthpiece, but i think he's too far
Feb 04th 2015
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      only reason I care about dude is because his dad was a boss
Feb 04th 2015
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but at least there was a reason behind it. had to do with the wyatts
Feb 04th 2015
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      harper/rowan make no sense to me
Feb 04th 2015
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Why is that such a huge slap in the face?
Feb 04th 2015
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      are u SERIOUSLY asking this question? i just explained why
Feb 04th 2015
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           Are you SERIOUSLY this upset that a career jobber got jobbed out?
Feb 04th 2015
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                what part of "a slap to a talent's face" aren't u understanding
Feb 04th 2015
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                     better yet. it's the finger poke of doom ..except they do it
Feb 04th 2015
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                     It's nothing like the finger poke, and it is stupid
Feb 04th 2015
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                     What part of "career jobber" don't you get? it wasn't the match either.
Feb 04th 2015
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                          ok, bruh
Feb 04th 2015
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tryngin to figure out what arnold has to do with wrestling...other than
Feb 04th 2015
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WWE has a 'celebrity wing' of their HOF
Feb 04th 2015
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      i know but each celeb has something to do with wrestling. eample
Feb 04th 2015
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           He cold cocked Triple H, had posing moment with Hogan, and inducted Brun...
Feb 04th 2015
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                ^^cheered drew carrey^^ lol bruh, u the most worked up
Feb 04th 2015
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                     above what, exactly? Whiny, petty complaints about shut that doesn't ma...
Feb 04th 2015
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                          lol ok, bruh
Feb 04th 2015
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and why the hell, after building the wyatts to what they were, does
Feb 04th 2015
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Agreed. They've completely fucked off their social media
Feb 04th 2015
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      i really can't believe how much they screwed up social media
Feb 04th 2015
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      AND THEY HAVE BRAY PROMOTE THE NETWORK!!!
Feb 04th 2015
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           what better way to grow your flock?
Feb 04th 2015
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Anyone watch last week's NXT?
Feb 07th 2015
250
RE: Anyone watch last week's NXT?
Feb 08th 2015
251
Looks like Vince caved. Looks like Bryan is going to main event WM
Feb 09th 2015
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So Fastlane is pointless just like the Rumble?
Feb 09th 2015
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Why is it pointless? Why was the Rumble pointless?
Feb 09th 2015
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had to be done.
Feb 09th 2015
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This is good for Reigns...
Feb 10th 2015
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      Woah...
Feb 10th 2015
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      Are they gonna be forced to turn him?
Feb 10th 2015
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           RE: Are they gonna be forced to turn him?
Feb 10th 2015
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let me guess. roman will accidentally hit DB in the rematch?
Feb 09th 2015
256
Rusev has the entire arena cheering for Cena...
Feb 09th 2015
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good booking/writing will make people care about almost anybody
Feb 09th 2015
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not one to fantasy book too often, but I had a great Rhodes breakup idea
Feb 09th 2015
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      i cracked up at that
Feb 09th 2015
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      GOLD !
Feb 10th 2015
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hell yeah Rikishi in the HOF.
Feb 09th 2015
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heh i like what they did with reigns at the end.
Feb 09th 2015
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and NXT nails it again.
Feb 11th 2015
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If there was ever a doubt that NXT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WWE
Feb 11th 2015
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it's pretty incredible when a company can't take notes from itself
Feb 11th 2015
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sasha banks running thangs and KO wins by brutality.
Feb 11th 2015
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2 months and he gets the title, that is how you keep the show interestin...
Feb 11th 2015
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      how do they have more committment to storylines
Feb 11th 2015
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           There's a few reasons we always discuss but still no excuse
Feb 11th 2015
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                meh raw could be like that if they wanted it to.
Feb 11th 2015
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                i get the ratings argument
Feb 11th 2015
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                I'm not defending WWE just saying what is making the difference
Feb 12th 2015
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                     i know, i'm just truly baffled by their inner workings. n/m
Feb 12th 2015
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                          RE: i know, i'm just truly baffled by their inner workings. n/m
Feb 12th 2015
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                               And that would be fine if they told stories well
Feb 12th 2015
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                               Right? They should have Cesaro, Ryback in the Show/Kane
Feb 13th 2015
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                                    I love when they announce a match against Show/Kane
Feb 13th 2015
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                                         RE: I love when they announce a match against Show/Kane
Feb 13th 2015
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                They have a roster of about 44 main roster men and 15 women
Feb 11th 2015
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                     RE: They have a roster of about 44 main roster men and 15 women
Feb 13th 2015
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                          Exactly. They're telling stories IN THE DAMN RING
Feb 18th 2015
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Owens is like a mini Brock Lesnar
Feb 11th 2015
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When he returned to ROH in 2012 he started using the F-5
Feb 11th 2015
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      YEESH
Feb 11th 2015
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           As a kid, I used to fantasize about moves like that
Feb 12th 2015
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                So I just rabbit-holed into this
Feb 12th 2015
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                     RE: So I just rabbit-holed into this
Feb 13th 2015
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                          And Joe's just gotten fatter since joining TNA
Feb 13th 2015
292
wow avclub threw a good bit of shine toward nxt tonight
Feb 12th 2015
281
Yup, that was cool to see. My thoughts on the special:
Feb 12th 2015
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Smackdown's Tag Team Turmoil thing was pretty good...
Feb 13th 2015
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Samoa Joe throws TNA the deuce (link)
Feb 17th 2015
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Triple H wants him...Vince doesn't...
Feb 18th 2015
299
bryan/reigns were pretty good throughout the night this week.
Feb 17th 2015
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So this Amann v. Punk & Cabana lawsuit is something.
Feb 20th 2015
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either way, can colt really be held liable?
Feb 20th 2015
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Statement from WWE:
Feb 20th 2015
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      Uh oh
Feb 20th 2015
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RE: So this Amann v. Punk & Cabana lawsuit is something.
Feb 20th 2015
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      Punk would like you to believe he's an everyman. But he's a narcissist.
Feb 21st 2015
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           he's a narcissist, but that doesn't mean he's wrong here
Feb 21st 2015
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Going to Fastlane tomorrow!
Feb 21st 2015
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KCPlayer21
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1. "Good, glad they booked The Ascension to win...."
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and the announcers are talking them up a bit, maybe they'll get a chance to shine now.....




We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

  

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Flash80
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2. "RE: Good, glad they booked The Ascension to win...."
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"And The Ascension finish off both the New Age Outlaws and the crowd." (c) WWE Creative Humor on twitter

miz/mizdow vs usos probably should've been the curtain-jerker.

held my nose and re-subscribed to the network. imagine if this shit was still $50-60 a PPV.

  

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Innocent Criminal
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3. "If Paige and Sheamus had a baby it would be invisible."
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adam
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Sun Jan-25-15 08:52 PM

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4. "Tag title match was fun, but the Usos need a new opponent now"
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I don't know how long this feud with Miz and Mizdow has gone on, but it feels like it's been going on forever.

  

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7. "Kidd and Cesaro?"
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We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

  

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10. "That's who I'm hoping for"
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It's gotta be a heel team and options are slim. I guess Gold and Stardust are technically still heels? But we've seen that before and who knows what they're doing with those two. The Ascension still feel too new, and jumping from jobbers to the New Age Outlaws to a title match would be a bit fast. But I guess they could be interesting. I'm loving the Kidd and Cesaro team, though. I think them and the Usos would have some killer matches.

  

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11. "Theyre growing on me (Kidd/Cesaro)"
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I didnt like them pairing Cesaro with Kidd at first because I think Kidd is such a weirdo (at least how they show him on Total Divas), but they have good ring chemistry and WWE needs some good tag teams.....




We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

  

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16. "RE: Theyre growing on me (Kidd/Cesaro)"
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>I didnt like them pairing Cesaro with Kidd at first because I
>think Kidd is such a weirdo (at least how they show him on
>Total Divas), but they have good ring chemistry and WWE needs
>some good tag teams.....
>
>

Ah, I've never watched Total Divas, and I only really got back into wrestling in the last few years. So I really only know Kidd from his recent NXT stuff, which has been great. And Cesaro's one of my favorites right now. And, yeah, they definitely work well together. I hope it's them up next for the belts.

  

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5. "Yo, that divas tag match was really great"
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6. "two matches left, two hours to go"
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and ain't each rumble entry every 90 seconds now instead of two minutes?

  

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8. "There has to be a cool down match....."
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between the championship match and the Rumble.....




We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
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9. "brock throwing niggas around will always be entertaining."
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12. "This match is everything I hoped it would be....."
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We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

  

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15. "Rollins..."
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>
>We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
>That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
>Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
>We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
>- Andy Mineo

Is a made fucking man after that match. Totally made. Good lord. Tyler Black...who knew...

  

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13. "Everything about that match was fucking awesome"
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Kudos to all three dudes. They fucking brought it.

  

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19. "it really was"
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figured that as loud as they were calling out spots, they were angling for nothing short of a barn-burner.

  

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14. "Rollins really is the future. "
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Can he be the one to finally live up to the "next HBK" hype?

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17. "RE: Rollins really is the future. "
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>Can he be the one to finally live up to the "next HBK" hype?

Maybe...If they just let him do it and he doesn't end up as the bad stuff that Shawn is/was. He's already throwing his body around something crazy. He's crazy physical. It's jarring..and I've watched a gang of wrestling. But he's so obviously better in the air than say...the usos barely making it on dives. His move set is $ too. He's a go as long as wwe takes care of him.

Oh and he's a heel forreal in the right way so that works too.

  

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18. "3D!!!!"
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20. "Bubba!"
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i did not expect him, I've stayed away from dirt sheets the last few weeks.

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21. "Bray Wyatt whooping ass so far......"
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We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

  

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23. "Yep! Super into it, too"
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Great way to start. Loved the mini Wyatt Family reunion.

And now Daniel Bryan!

  

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22. "dbry got that AE pop"
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24. "i cant believe i remember that DDP theme after so long."
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wonder why they aint use the wcw theme tho

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25. "And with that I think I'll go to bed"
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fuck you Vince.

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27. "yeah they already fucked this up"
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trying too hard to avoid a repeat of last year

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26. "Ballsy move by WWE to piss off the crowd with half the Rumble left to go..."
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28. "philly coming through with them boos for reigns"
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29. "Welp, I guess I'll wait and see how this plays out tonight"
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But as right now, that was bizarre.

  

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30. "lol @ vince pissing off smarks everywhere"
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bryan winning woulda been too obvious.

we'll see if anyone can salvage the boo fest.

#mizdow

  

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31. "Reigns is the obvious win. "
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35. "^^^winner......"
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arm in arm with the rock and the nigga is still getting booed the fuck outta the building by the philly crowd.

wow.

  

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32. "only an ambrose or ziggler win would really salvage it."
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bray winning would make me happy at least. cesaro too.

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33. "oh my god that was worse than i couldve imagined."
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lmao they can't even get him over on the rock's back. they got a real problem on their hands w/ reigns.

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75. "lololololol...."
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>lmao they can't even get him over on the rock's back. they
>got a real problem on their hands w/ reigns.

that's pretty bad. Makes "Super Cena" billing look good

  

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34. "Glad this was free on the Network...."
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Royal Rumble is a PPV I always purchased, I woulda been mad if I spent $60 on this one.....




We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

  

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36. "hilarious how people have turned on roman"
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"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

  

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45. "RE: hilarious how people have turned on roman"
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>
>"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make
>'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c)
>Morgan Freeman,

He had a questionable match in a big spot with Orton, he's butchered at least a few promos, and wwe let his mania push to Brock become public too early. And they knew it.

And Brock's run has been 2 grand matches but bad otherwise../outside of a couple raws. And folks have all but begged them to moonwalk out of Reigns thing for now. And they know it. But they haven't. And the crowd has flat out named their other options for them with their reactions. And they are noselling the information so far. The way they did the rumble match proves that they have the info. So, folks are gonna be booing even if the Rock is there every week until mania to try to help save it. Rock is gonna end up looking like Hogan when he would do the 'savage is my buddy' thing.

  

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46. "that's the silliest part of it all to me"
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the rumble is basically for the fans to say this is who we like.

and the fans gave them cesaro, ziggler, bryan, ambrose and bray (hell even mizdow). they have given them that for months on end. fucking make them the center of attention please along with rollins.

they have plenty of people fans like now, that would give the wwe enough time to let reigns grow into someone they actually like. i hope it doesn't take vince dying for them to fix the product but that seems like the case.

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37. "RE: Wrestling Post: Royal Rumble to Fast Lane (???)"
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Reigns is getting murdered out there. They have 2 months to build a great set of lies but he can't talk well enough to help them...and Brock is an snk boss..rough draw for the wwe on making Reigns a believable winner.

Add in that folks flat out don't want reigns and they are looking at having to do the Rollins cash-in either the night of mania or the raw after.


>the road to Wrestlemania starts tonight....
>
>Tonight's Card
>The New Age Outlaws vs. The Ascension
>
>Paige and Natalya vs. The Bella Twins
>
>The Usos vs The Miz and Damien Mizdow for the WWE Tag Team
>Championships
>
>Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena vs. Seth Rollins in a Triple Threat
>Match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship
>
>2015 30-man Royal Rumble Match
>
>
>
>We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
>That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
>Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
>We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
>- Andy Mineo

  

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38. "Can Rock be Reigns' mouthpiece for the next 2 months?"
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this interview on the aftershow is hilarious.....




We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

  

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40. "not unless you want alternating boos & cheers "
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every time the focus shifts just like tonight. that would make it even worse.

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39. ""The worst rumble match since last year" -my roommate"
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Uggggggghhhhhh

  

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41. "last year, they cheered for him to win...this year he wins"
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and people boo him out of the building


"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

  

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"what does that say about Batista? lol"


          

  

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54. "what does that say about Batista? lol"
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55. "post x2"
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42. "The way Wyatt, Ziggler, and Ambrose were eliminated was the worst"
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They didn't even put up a fight. Dumped out while looking dead to the world. And worst of all, it was by two guys who nobody has cared about for at least 10 years.

It seemed spiteful on WWE's part. Making the few guys the fans actually like, and that have gotten over look like bitches.

  

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43. "I will say that the way Ziggler sold that KO was absolutely beautiful."
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44. "they were too pussy to make reigns be the one to do it"
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all that protection backfired tremendously.

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86. "i took it as "Reigns will get over if he eliminates the guys..."
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that eliminated the heroes, right?" Either way, it certainly backfired. Just terribly booked from beginning to end.

  

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47. "Only caught glimpses. Seems as though the mood is sour."
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Twtter feed blowing up with pics of people cancelling their network subscriptions.

  

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48. "#CancelWWENetwork is the #1 trending hashtag in the US."
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This is not "good heat."

  

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52. "RE: Philly crowd..."
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>Twtter feed blowing up with pics of people cancelling their
>network subscriptions.

Was allegedly blocking cars outside...on some old back in the day not letting wrestlers leave stuff. Whoa.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SychoVicious/status/559562765476446209

  

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49. "I feel bad for Reigns, b."
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WWE Kreative™ has fucked him six ways from Sunday. They probably are about to pull that dumb Bautista shit from last year and turn Reigns heel, which is, as I said, dumb.

This shit is bigger than "Vince is seriously out of touch and needs to stop booking." This is "WWE's entire booking philosophy needs a complete AND PERMANENT overhaul, starting with killing off the idea that the only valuable big time stars are guys who can 'turn heads in airports.'"

Word on the street is that they're looking for writers. God help you if you apply, get in, and try to change this shit around from the inside.

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62. "Co-Sign"
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Now,I don't pay attention to the product as much as I used to. But has he had one memorable solo feud?

I recall some stuff with the Big Show and that's it. He seems to have gotten pops from showing off his big moves in tag matches here and there.

So far, he just comes across as Robot Reigns to me.

Don't know if it is the scripted promos or if he needs to get more comfortable. He could use a mouthpiece.

Does anybody know how he was on the mic in NXT?


Damn. Dan Patrick's flunkies just included the Rumble in their "Worst of the Weekend".

  

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88. "you're correct"
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>Now,I don't pay attention to the product as much as I used
>to. But has he had one memorable solo feud?

Nope.


>
>I recall some stuff with the Big Show and that's it. He seems
>to have gotten pops from showing off his big moves in tag
>matches here and there.
>
>So far, he just comes across as Robot Reigns to me.

Yup.

>
>Don't know if it is the scripted promos or if he needs to get
>more comfortable. He could use a mouthpiece.
>

A lot of people in the business think it's just the writing (Vince is allegedly writing all his promos, which would explain a lot). He's supposedly a naturally charismatic guy. I'm not entirely convinced of that, but they don't give him a lot to work with.

  

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89. "I heard him on the radio Friday and he did sound a little stiff "
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50. "The way it was booked was actually evil genius (but it still failed)"
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So they knew Reigns was going to get booed to hell right? Look at all the steps they took to try to stop a riot.

Bryan comes in and is eliminated early and unceremoniously...this was in hopes the fans would forget about him by the end which they kind of did, it would have been way worse if he was out last.

The final 3 (we thought) was Big Show Kane and Reigns, 3 wrestlers the smarks don't want to see win, "but at least they probably like Reigns the most in terms of a WM main event right?"-The writers...this didn't work for them, but I see what they tried to do

The Rock will come in for the save people will cheer right?

Ok, final attempt, the fans hate Rusev he is the ultimate anti USA heel, Reigns will have to get cheered for throwing him out right?


Basically they tried really hard to put Reigns in a spot that people would cheer him, what they underestimated was how much a PPV crowd especially wanted to see anything but Reigns win.

  

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51. "This is the thought process they'll have to continue with I think..."
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I imagine HHH & Stephanie will be very anti-Reigns from hereon out, plus I can see Ambrose being drafted in to help Reigns get through the weekly beat downs from Kane and Show which should make him more open to regaining some crowd affection. Actually, maybe even team him up with Bryan in the interim?

The worst thing is that they really, really, really can't repeat last year of having to turn Reigns heel and adding Bryan/Ziggler/Ambrose into the main event as that would be I think embarrassing all-round.

I do actually think the Reigns & Brock match will be very good though.

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53. "Why will Reigns vs Lesnar be good?"
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Just curious, I think anything with Brock in it is good, but I have not enjoyed a single Roman Reigns solo match. Only one I like maybe was him vs Rollins, and we know why that one was good. Hell, his match with Randy Orton at SS was trash, and he doesn't do underdog well, so why put him with Brock?

  

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56. "I guess we're initially at odds..."
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I thought Reigns v Orton wasn't bad at all.

Hard to put my finger on why I think Reigns/Lesnar would be good - with their styles, I would just anticipate a fairly fast-paced and high-impact match. Just think it has potential is all.

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57. "#DeezNuts for the win!"
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113. "I see you fam!"
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https://youtu.be/Kkp6UkSh5IQ

  

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58. "i'd LOVE to see Roman turn and join the authority now"
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"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

  

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59. "Making Lesnar the face to heel Reigns is potentially the way to go"
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79. "hell u don't even have to change anything about brock now"
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60. "Damn, this controversy made it to Time magazine...."
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http://time.com/3682093/cancel-wwe-network-royal-rumble/




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61. "I'm telling you... Rocky III is the way to promote Brock/Reigns "
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I know I’m a broken record with this but they need to cast Brock more like Clubber Lang than a mere Conqueror. He has to beat the living hell out of Reigns (preferably tonight) and do so in truly evil fashion. Rock would play Apollo’s role, obviously.

Reigns kind of needs to grapple with his confidence and question if he can really do this, because this is the first true monster he’s ever faced. Problem is, he doesn’t exactly give cause for confidence in pulling out such range.

Part of the issue here is that they’ve slowly written Brock into something to admire based on his work with Rollins (Yup… Edge 2.0) and after him basically rising from the dead last night to beat Rollins and Cena, he’s going to get a hero’s welcome from here on out unless he starts acting like a dastardly bastard instead of a guy who’s just dominant instead of evil.

The fucked Reigns even more by letting Uncle Rock come out for the save, especially since that connection hasn’t really been teased. He’d have been better off overcoming the odds on his own. Vince probably thought Rock would give him that rub but it came across so cheap it backfired.

I dunno what the fuck to do with his promos either because he really shit the bed in the backstage segment afterwards. I like him but they’ve completely neutered him. I’d still hire him to babysit before I’d call him to help me in a fight.

They need to make him more sympathetic and make Brock much more evil for this to work, and even then it’s a tall order.

  

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65. "LOL - dude said he has to go watch tape!!!"
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I dont know why, but that cracked me up and Im fairly confident it wasnt supposed to

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103. "RE: LOL - dude said he has to go watch tape!!!"
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>I dont know why, but that cracked me up and Im fairly
>confident it wasnt supposed to

I cracked up too. I loved it. But my absolute favorite thing is when they play up getting "exclusive" interviews with people. Like, really, you somehow beat out Woj and Deadspin by getting this Nattie interview, or some shit? Whenever they sneak in some "real" sports kind of stuff, I'm all for it.

  

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100. "that'd be decent if they flipped it like that old rock/brock promo"
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where the rock was showing how all his training was supposed to prepare him for brock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjnjkK0QavA

i really don't think this is a salvageable operation though.

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63. "The whole backstage thing after the Rumble was a mess"
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What was that?? Neither dude could talk, people were laughing, Rock was drunk. Absolute mess.

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64. "I was waiting on Rock to call dude Hermie"
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I'm intrigued though because Rock was basically cutting heel a promo.

  

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66. "Chance tonight's Raw in Hartford will be cancelled..."
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due to weather.


And the plot thickens...

  

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70. "Might be a blessing in disguise for the WWE"
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Give fans a week to cool off

  

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91. "They should take a week off, do a mulligan on the rumble, and move on"
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67. "It's just weird."
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Like, incompetent weird. I mean, Bryan's still as over as anyone has been in the last decade. So if you don't want him to win the thing, why not leave him in there until the very last, then have a heel cheat to eliminate him? Great heat for the heel, Bryan stays strong, sets up a feud...it's Booking fucking 101. But instead they waste him, and throw away money in the process. Why?

  

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71. "The problem with that scenario is that you get the same result"
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And that's Reigns going over. You could bring back 1985 Roddy Piper to eliminate Daniel Bryan, but guess what? Bryan's still not winning, and Reigns is still getting booed out of the building.

If thy weren't going to have him win, then they shouldn't have put Daniel Bryan in the match in the first place. They knew this would happen; that's why The Rock was there to mitigate the damage, and that's also why they eliminated Bryan early on, with the thinking being that by the time they got to the end of the match, that the crowd would have been so easily distracted by everything else that they would have forgotten about Daniel Bryan losing.

Shit's dumb all around.

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72. "It's really a fascinating scenario..."
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The fact that they knew fans would go crazy over Bryan being eliminated so they wrote him out early, they brought Rock in for the co-sign, they engineered the final 4 so Roman wouldn't upset fans of either of those wrestlers, they bring HHH & Steph out for the stare down from the ramp... it's a huge amount of thought and consideration to address the fact that they KNEW people would react the way they did. It begs the question: if they knew fans would be passionate about the outcome they wanted, why pursue it?

Also, no way could they leave Bryan out seeing as what happened last year.

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73. "Or why not just go with the guys who are actually over?"
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>The fact that they knew fans would go crazy over Bryan being
>eliminated so they wrote him out early, they brought Rock in
>for the co-sign, they engineered the final 4 so Roman wouldn't
>upset fans of either of those wrestlers, they bring HHH &
>Steph out for the stare down from the ramp... it's a huge
>amount of thought and consideration to address the fact that
>they KNEW people would react the way they did. It begs the
>question: if they knew fans would be passionate about the
>outcome they wanted, why pursue it?
>
>Also, no way could they leave Bryan out seeing as what
>happened last year.

The backlash against Reigns is simply because he isn't that over. Bryan is 1000x more over. Ziggler is 100x more over. Wyatt is 50x more over. Ambrose is 50x more over. Goddamn Bubba Ray is 50x more over. Rusev is arguably more over. After last night, Curtis Axel may well be more over.

  

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84. "RE: Or why not just go with the guys who are actually over?"
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The backlash not might be as bad if they gave these guys meaningful storylines/feuds that were not driven into the ground. They don't all have to be in the main event, but they mostly ain't got shit to do.

How many times did we need to see Wyatt/Ambrose in hardcore type matches within a month? Did the Ziggler/Harper feud amount to anything since the IC title ain't shit?

This Cesaro-Kidd pairing looks decent but it won't go anywhere. Even the New Day deserves better than what they are getting.

It will never happen, but they need to go back to some form of the brand split, and kill the formula that guys in a feud need to interact in some way on every single show.

  

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81. "They could have saved it. Keep Bryan in at least until Reigns is in."
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Have Reigns and Bryan (and Ambrose and Ziggler) surrounded by heels. Reigns helps save Bryan from certain elimination once or twice. I mean, they had already teased segments with those two working together against the Authority. They could have built that so much better, and it would have actually worked, unlike having Rocky come out to make the save.

It seemed like they had no idea how to set the rhythm of the Rumble. They completely rushed through all of the "pop" segments (DDP, the Wyatt Family Reunion, the annual Rhodes Boys donnybrook, Mizdow). Rusev coming back was an afterthought when they could have made it a moment of drama. It was just a weird, weird match.

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82. "They rang the bell before Rusev even came back"
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It was an embarrassment.


That said, the 3D was great even if you had to give a side eye by having R-Truth helpin out.

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85. "And this was weird too:"
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>unlike having Rocky come out to make the save.

Your "top" babyface needs Rock? The shine in a save like that goes to guy who made the save, not the guy who required saving. The guy who couldn't defend himself looks weak in that scenario. Why did they want to make Reigns look weak?

  

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107. "Again, it wouldn't have mattered."
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In fact, keeping Bryan in would have made things WORSE, because at that point, you're just super-trolling the fans and getting their hopes up by making them think that maybe Kreative has changed its mind and will have Bryan win.

And having Reigns save Bryan from beatdowns would have made things WORSE as well. You really think that crowd would have just gone along with seeing Superhero Reigns rescue their favorite? Especially in a match that's billed as "Every man for himself?" No, they would have sniffed that out as an obvious tactic to try and get Reigns over.

We can sit up and debate the logistics all day. It. Wouldn't. Have. Mattered. It wouldn't have mattered if he was #1 or #30, that crowd was booing anyone not named Daniel Bryan if they were winning that match. And yes, that includes Ziggler and Ambrose.

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68. "Curtis Axel was never eliminated, this is bothering me. "
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69. "This has happened numerous times before, gotta let it go"
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74. "he never entered."
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76. "RE: he never entered."
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But he was officially announce as the 6th participant. Plus,the announcers kept making it a point to say that Rowan was not officially in the Rumble.

  

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80. "I believe the "official rule""
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is that if you do not enter the ring before the next entrant enters, you lose your spot.

  

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83. "RE: I believe the "official rule""
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I'll buy it.

  

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98. "makes sense, they also ban early entrances"
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92. "Hornswogle is still in the '08 rumble i believe"
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93. "Dont. "
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95. "ok."
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77. "Oh, and Like Whoa!@Brock no-selling three straight AA's."
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If the move looked remotely dangerous, cool, or even slightly damaging, that is.

On one hand, I had an OH SHIT!!! reaction because it’s Brock taking three straight finishers (ok, two no-sells, technically) from Cena like nothing. On the other? The move is wack as fuck.

If he no-sells three straight Superman Punches, RKO’s/Diamond Cutters, Shell Shocks, Curb Stomps, Sister Abigails, Pedigrees, GTS’s, Clotheslines From Hell, WMD’s, Choke Slams, Stunners, Rock Bottoms, Super Kicks, Zig Zags, Famousers, or any other Finisher That Actually Looks Like It Hurts (like a *real* Death Valley Driver and not the badly bastardized version Cena adapted it into), it would have truly been a mark out moment for the ages that would have further cemented (as if he needs it) Brock as the all-time King Of Monsters.

  

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78. "Kicking out @ 1 was pretty great too. "
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87. "didnt the AA just pick up as a knockoff F5 anyway?"
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a cheap imitation shouldnt bother the beast

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90. "Yup. Protobomb used to be his finisher"
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then the "FU" was the response to the F5.

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97. "Nah he just changed the name. It was more DVD-like at first "
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It looked like a modified death valley driver from what I recall, but I could be wrong. I remember the Protobomb being some kind of modified powerbomb/rock bottom combination.

  

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128. "Right on both counts"
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Cena originally added that "safe for WWE" DVD (it was closer to Godfather's "Pimpdrop") when he was aiming at Brock, and they even called it a Death Valley Driver when he first started doing it.

Then in a promo, he called it the "F-U" (in response to the "F5")

the F-U had many different forms, my favorite (and the one he should have kept) was basically what in the GameCube wrestling video games is called a "Yebisu Drop": a sitout Michinoku-style driver from fireman's carry. I figured that would be OK to do in WWE, but that's not a finisher Cena can do on everyone (like the Big Show for example).

Overtime, Cena's F-U morphed into a basic Fireman's Carry dump, the current Attitude Adjustment. Which I guess you can do to everyone, but looks like crap. I was hoping at least he'd take to locking on a reverse 3/4 facelock so it would end as a "reverse" DDT or something. At least it would look cool that way.

Besides, when they had CM Punk doin that damn GTS to "hosses" (because the Anaconda Vice (Pause) was de-emphasized), I felt like Cena had an excuse to return to the GOAT F-U.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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94. "That's gotta be the biggest monster moment in history"
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Crazy.

  

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96. "RE: #giveseththedamnbelt"
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he's gonna steal mania
him & orton gonna tear the house down.
please cash in on reigns while the confetti drops

  

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99. "Yeah I'm hoping we get Seth/Orton at Mania. "
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one on one though, not some bullshit cop out tag match

  

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101. "Just turn Reigns heel..."
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Have him join Hunter, have Hunter kick out Rollins, have Rollins cash in at the end of Mania on Reigns. Beautiful.

  

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118. "WHY WHY WHY"
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would you want to take away the first guy in a LONG time
who truly has REAL HEAT though?


Rollins is INCREDIBLE as the top heel.

Look at Bray, he's supposed to be a heel yet gets
the "firefly cellphones" and a decent size pop whenever he comes out.

Rollins gets booed, and booed bad.

His timing and presence on the mic, his in ring work is top notch,
he's a KILLER with the high flying spots, takes an extraordinary
amount of punishment.
The smart crowd cheers him after he does a spectacular move
or when in the middle of a run of dope spots,
but even the smart crowd boos that man even though inside
they absolutely love him... ...THAT'S REAL HEAT...

Why would you want to just strip away all of that?

No offense, but that's a horrible idea imo.

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126. "I hope they don't have to do that..."
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I'd really like WWE to look at this as a challenge and have to think to themselves how they can book/write this so that they win the crowd over for Reigns. I actually think they can do it - there's lots of different angles and ways to play this out but no telling right now which way will be the best one.

Having the Raw they did helped a little and I'm very curious to see if they can write themselves out of the corner they're currently in. Smackdown tonight will be compulsory watching.

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102. "Nice recovery for Reigns tonight. Heyman's going to sell this shit"
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Brock's new "I don't respect anyone. Ever." tag line is going to help get him back to being hated, unless all these people are true assholes.

Reigns telling Brock that "if I can't beat you, I'm going to take a piece of you with me." was pitch perfect,

Reigns did a nice job all around tonight, and that last exchange between him and Brock was gold.

Brock: Unlike him, (Heyman) I don't respect you.
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104. "Reigns was less corny for sure, but hearing him after Heyman didn't help"
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Granted nobody will look good after Heyman and Heyman did an AMAZING job of selling the match and the history, but just everytime I hear Reigns speak I fall asleep.

You don't have to be a great speaker, hell Lesnar is one of the worst, but Lesnar is a once in a lifetime wrestler. Reigns as still not proven that he is not the latest flavor of the month good looking tall guy that WWE is convinced will be the future.

  

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105. "Agreed.. He and Bryan put this all in perspective though"
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He's getting an opportunity and at the end it's all about what he does with the opportunity.

What annoys me about many fans on this is that literally everyone is handpicked for their spot. They just have to earn the right to keep it.

  

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106. "RE: Agreed.. He and Bryan put this all in perspective though"
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>He's getting an opportunity and at the end it's all about
>what he does with the opportunity.
>
>What annoys me about many fans on this is that literally
>everyone is handpicked for their spot. They just have to earn
>the right to keep it.

RIGHT. But when the fans want something and tell you in no uncertain terms, you have a choice on how you're going to deal with not giving it to them. And WWE is having a pissing contest with their audience right now...it is a tough go when you're trying to sell something.

At least now, Paul will do 85% of the talking while Brock and Reigns try to drop profound one-liners. That's where Reigns has the best shot now that they've tried to 'reset' him as a human being and not just 'the next WWE it guy'. I just can't see RR winning without shenanigans of some kind. Brock is an SNK boss. Or a RPG boss where no one has the right weapon or spell. AKA dude losing a one-on-one match seems like a huge lie to tell for RR this soon.

Still, if they don't have DB get hurt again by Kane this Thursday in a casket match (*Scott Hall spooky hands*), they have to do SOMETHING with him. And folks are going in on pulling for a Ziggler/DB steal the show match at Mania. Who knows what WWE will do with the info they obviously have.

  

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109. "Fair point. I've been on a podcast binge since Christmas. "
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>RIGHT. But when the fans want something and tell you in no
>uncertain terms, you have a choice on how you're going to deal
>with not giving it to them. And WWE is having a pissing
>contest with their audience right now...it is a tough go when
>you're trying to sell something.

Between PWTorch, Solomonster, Straight Shoot, and more recently, Wrestling Soup, I’ve grown to kind of loathe wrestling fans and I’m damn near ready to hate Bryan because of it***

Well not really but you get my drift. The RR hate is overboard and the crying I hear about Bryan is nauseating at this point. To me, all that needs to be said is this:

Bryan is STILL white hot. WWE is just plain fucking stupid for not squeezing every last drop of that mojo while it’s there.

Reigns should be given another year to bubble and gain experience. Who knows, he could have been ready by Summer Slam.

Now, what’s done is done. The fans shitting on Reigns isn’t the way to go. WWE is screwing him by putting him in this position, and to me he deserves a fair shake at proving that Vince made a wise choice.

Far as the podcasts… Sitterson has interesting guests, but holy shit his name should be Marky Mark. Mark Mark Mark Mark Mark. I know, I’m a mark, you’re a mark, that’s what makes it fun. THAT dude is a Mark in the worst possible sense though. He just loves everything WWE does all the time and anything they do that’s shitty results in YOU’RE BEING WORKED BRO!

Wrestling Soup? Fart noise. Opey & Anthony for wrestling.

Solomonster is a fucking boss though, and the Keller has me wishing I’d signed up years ago. Both of them are great, but man the fans are insufferable.

WWE is fucking awful, Vince is out of touch, and you’re dead on about the way they promote this WWE Universe thing, but they’re still the lesser of two heels between themselves and the fans to me right now.

  

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111. "I think the Shield could reunite for a minute during the match."
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112. "Way too early for that IMO. "
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I dig seeing Ambrose and Reigns team up though.

Any reunion of The Shield should happen like two years from now at the earliest IMO, and would need to have a massive threat to work.

Fuck I got chills just thinking about it. Don’t judge me lol. For real though, those guys were on some Voltron shit.

  

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117. "RE: Way too early for that IMO. "
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>I dig seeing Ambrose and Reigns team up though.
>
>Any reunion of The Shield should happen like two years from
>now at the earliest IMO, and would need to have a massive
>threat to work.
>
>Fuck I got chills just thinking about it. Don’t judge me
>lol. For real though, those guys were on some Voltron shit.
>

Ha, same. It does feel too soon for that. Shit, I still want those three dudes to feud and give us at least one amazing triple threat match before we start thinking about reuniting.

  

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108. "why even shake his hand lol"
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110. "I wanna front like that didn't work. But it did. Masterfully even."
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Leave it to Heyman to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

And you know what? They would've tried a similar angle in front of a crowd, and a crowd would've heckled them the entire time, and Heyman would've been louder, and Brock would've been pacing, and Roman would've been trying to play it cool while likely being obviously perturbed...

But in this controlled environment it was nuanced and it was good.

It was good!

What more is there to say? Heyman took it all the way back to the family, Brock told him to his face he doesn't respect him. It WORKED. Now they've got two months to get us behind Reigns. Maybe they actually pull it off.

  

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114. "shit dbry's gonna end up stuck w/ shameus for mania."
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dbry deserves better. idk why they have a hard-on for matching these 2 up.

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115. "They actually have really good chemistry. I'd watch that match every wee..."
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Bryan should be in the title picture, but he isn't. I'd prefer something with Rollins or Ziggler overall, but Sheamus will make for a damn good match at a minimum. I think people forget how good a worker he is due to his shitty character direction.

Bryan might be the key to reawakening Sheamus as a top tier heel and frankly, that's a good thing. I'd still rather see Bryan and Brock, but it is what it is.

  

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116. "i will never understand your love for shameus"
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that dude is easily the blandest upper carder in the company right now and i have no interest in seeing him vs anybody. wack moves. wack persona heel or face. just wack everything.

he's big show/kane status to me.

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120. "I don't love his character. I love his *work*. I'm not alone in this."
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He puts on good to very good matches with great consistency. He's pretty much exactly what you want a big man to be in the ring. and his move set among the most polished and unique in the entire company.

I think your dislike for the character is preventing you from noticing the worker, who's damn good.

  

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123. "When he's not trying to be "cool""
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Hes great at just hossing up, beating the dogmess out of people, and taking a beating. The asset of him being as pale as he is, is that when he's up against a Mark Henry or Big Show, he gets super welted up and looks like a boss for taking that much punishment and still fighting back.

Wrestlemania history aside, Sheamus is actually the best opponent FOR D-Bry, because they both go full speed and make their strikes look awesome.

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125. "Do you catch an HBK/Razor vibe from them like I do?"
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They just have ideal big man/little man chemistry. It’s hard to replicate that shit. The only other guy I’d rather see in the ring with either guy is Cesaro.

If they can give it a big match feel and the proper time and story, I’m all for it as it can be a great launching pad for both back into the main event picture.

  

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119. "I'm not really a fan of Daniel Bryan"
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so I'm glad he isn't in the title picture (yet) at least.

Only way I'd like him in the title picture would be truly
predicated on who he would be going up against.
IE him and Rollins?? I'm there for that 10x outta 10.

If they wanna do a Bryan / Ziggler IC match at WM, I'm there for that too.


But as long as BROCK has the belt, no way do I want Bryan
in the picture. I really don't know who I want facing Brock.
All I know is I don't care what kinda pop Bryan has.
Brock is so effing dominant and I know wrestling is fake
but Brock is so good he makes me believe that there isn't currently
anyone in the entire company that could beat him fair and square
one on one.


They've really handled Brock PERFECTLY. Who woulda thought
Vince would let the WWE Champion not be on tv EVERY FUCKING WEEK!

Paul's love for MMA has done wonders for bringing ideas to the table,
saying "Hey Vince, you know this will absolutely work right? Just
lemme do my thing, I'll make Brock a star villain without him
having to wrestle every week, it will give the fans MORE excitement
for when he DOES show up and it's his turn to fight, his burning
white hot star WILL FUCKING EXPLODE with his in ring performances."

It's worked masterfully since Brock beat the streak at WM30.
Here we are a year later, he's got the WWE title, he's held it
for months and it doesn't look like anyone can beat him.
And no one should. Unless he is leaving soon, that would be a travesty. I know Rollins has to cash in a years time so I know
Brock will have to give it up soon.

I'd hate to see Reigns beat Brock at WM, what a shitty way to treat
Brock who has SLAYED for the company this past year.

But!! if Rollins cashed in on Monday night following WM beating
Reigns after he's been brutally beaten by Brock looking for revenge
after losing his belt I'd be cool with that.

It'd be a HARD reset.

I'd be cool with Rollins getting the belt right then and there and moving forward without Brock as title holder though I'd be bummed...
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121. "Bryan vs Brock is the best story to tell and the best possible match."
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It would probably rival Michaels/Taker I, which is arguably the GOAT mania match.

  

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124. "completely agree. And we'll now sadly never get it."
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127. "man, just thinking of that shit"
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>It would probably rival Michaels/Taker I, which is arguably
>the GOAT mania match.

I really felt like they were gonna have HBK end that streak, that is one of my favorite matches ever

and I thought HBK was "done"

  

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129. "i don't even watch, and i get that"
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the situation couldn't be any better from a drama standpoint.

on one hand, you have the first legitimately scary squash machine since, shit, goldberg in his wcw prime, maybe? Maybe it's better than that? he's already bucked expectations and absolutely destroyed two guys (taker and cena) in ways we all thought were impossible. no matter what lesner's contract status, you can't assume he's not going over in any situation.

on the other, you have the classic underdog who has a history of the company holding him back, even if that's clearly no longer true. why not work an angle on that? why not put vince, hunter, everyone on Team Brock, cut a lot of promos that talk about how he doesn't have the physique or mainstream appeal, etc?

bryan's legitimately terrifying injury could be worked into the angle beautifully. vince and them could express obviously phony concern for bryan's health, then put him in 2 on 1, 3 on 1, ladder and tables matches (if he can even do those post injury) in an attempt to knock him out? then, right before mania, put him in some type of match with brock on raw (if he deigns to show up) where brock goes to town on him, tries to injure him, etc. given everything, it would add pure terror to the match for every mark and a dose of terror to anyone who has any pure mark left in them, which is everyone.

that total package would have the most hype going into a Mania in recent memory. and again, i haven't watched more than 5 minutes of a raw or ppv in 5, 10 years. if i get this, why don't they?

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130. "Bryan is the legit successor to Cena, except, you know, MUSCLES!!!!"
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Vince is delusional. He no longer has his finger on the pulse of the people and his idea of what constitutes "entertainment" is bad comedy.

Cesaro X for example, is a guy people would accept as Brocks opponent and he's had zero build. Vince says he doesn't connect with the crowd, but what he's really saying is that he doesn't have any big money catch phrases. The fans love love love that dude. They could flip that proverbial switch with him and he'd be hot as fish grease tomorrow and they'd eventually find his marketing hook.

Far as Bryan, Vince just flat out doesn't like guys who aren't jacked to the gills. He still wants meat heads on top. HBK and Brett lucked out due to the steroid scandal and Bryan lucked into a series of unfortunate events last year (quite literally) that both made him and ended him, but they never wanted to push him. They just wanted to spare themselves a Wrestlemania riot.

You see it because you're not. A delusional, senile, out of touch control freak who measures success by Nielson quarter hours trying to have his cake and eat it too- I.e, 'respectability' with a pg rating and pg sponsors using the meatiest meat heads he can find. Meanwhile, Bryan is the perfect guy to build a PG show around. He's marketable as fuck with storytelling that writes itself. You see it because you recognize that the crowd has spoken. Vince doesn't because he still thinks he knows what we want better than we do, and since he's the only show in town at this level, we're all hostage to it.

  

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133. "The funniest part of that is that Cesaro is a more athletic"
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version of what Vince is looking for. He's legitimately the strongest guy in the E-- dude can deadlift Big Show for fun. He can monster blown spots into what they're supposed to be. People would pop their brains out for a regular sight of the swing/Swiss Death (the pop-up Euro Uppercut).

He could legitimately be what Vince was trying to do with Mason "Show Muscles" Ryan and Ryback's first run.

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135. "Can you imagine him swingin Brock??"
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136. "It would be AMAZING. The crowd would lose their minds."
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137. "And then the subsequent Brock no sell, lol "
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140. "The missed opportunity on this is fucking mind blowing. "
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Not to mention the fact that we still haven’t gotten Sheamus or Orton. What’s fucked is that Brock returned in a great era for big men (work wise, lord knows I’m not talking about presentation and marketing here) and at this point we coulda/shoulda seen at least SOME of the following matches for Brock:

-Sheamus . My favorite for this. Holy shit at the physicality on that one. Seriously, that would be a match where we’d all wonder *how* hurt they were, not *if* they got hurt. That’s easy the most physical, brutal match I can envision in WWE and we wouldn’t need tables, ladders, or chairs to get it. That’s a Hoss end-all, be-all. Sorry Brooklyn, Sheamus really is that good. Yeah, the character is corny as fuck but dude can flat out go.

-Cesaro. Arguably less physical then Sheamus but the visual display of power and atheleticism that could have been achieved here would have been among the most memorable things in WWE….. perhaps ever. I’m not exaggerating. The swing, those uppercuts, the swing into the barricades, THOSE UPPERCUTS, the suplexes, I mean seriously… what other match in WWE history can fuck with that combination of power and athleticism with two A+ workers? It’s like the Hoss equivalent of, say, Eddie Vs HBK in their prime.

-Barret, the Bare Knuckle Brawler! HELLO, VINCE!!! The motherfucker is a legit boxer! Brock’s MMA weakness was the stand up game! HOW THE FUCK do they not capitalize on that? Barret’s leaner than most of the other big men they have but he’s shown he can go toe to toe with anyone. Play up Barret’s standup, add some realism to this shit, and Brock wins the same way he won in UFC- overpowering people, pinning them to the ground, and beating the shit out of their face.

-Orton. Yes, Orton. Back when Paul was telling Cena he’d have to go to the dark side to have a chance at beating Brock, all I could think was that this was the perfect setup to use Orton for Brock’s next match. Orton gives not a fuck about a soul in the WWE and he could ‘hear voices’ all through that match and make God bleed. Orton would have regained every ounce of his God Level heel stature and then some in that match.

Seriously. The stories that could have been told with these guys would have been off the charts. I know, Brock works limited dates. Solution? DON’T’ GIVE US 3 MATCHES WITH HUNTER AND 3 MATCHES WITH CENA! Also, Bray should have had last year’s match with Taker anyways. You ‘do the honors’ for a guy who needs to be made, not for a guy who’s been made twice over. At least two of the aforementioned matches could have seamlessly replaced two of the Cena, Hunter, and/or Taker matches. Literally all would have been better, except for the triple threat at Rumble which stands tall on its own. This title reign would be much better if Brock mowed through a few more of these guys in the process.

  

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157. ""Vince McMahon is a millionaire who should be a billionaire" - (c) CM Pu..."
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2) Wade Barrett has the worst injury luck of anyone. He's been injured just on the cusp of like 3 mega-pushes by now.

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172. "How they never got to Orton/Brock these last few years is truly maddenin..."
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Dude I honestly haven't watched consistently since Rollins turned on the Shield. It's the worst it's ever been.

  

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173. "RE: How they never got to Orton/Brock these last few years is truly madd..."
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>Dude I honestly haven't watched consistently since Rollins
>turned on the Shield. It's the worst it's ever been.

There's been some brutal times. No Hogan vs Flair in WWF '92 on a major show is a crime against humanity. Hogan's WWF involvement was terrible in basically Manias 7 through 9.

And some of that looks like AJPW golden age compared to Hogans pre-nWo WCW stuff. He did basically nothing with VAN VADER! He murdered Flair. He made Savage his little buddy. He wasted what could've been great years for Sting. Crow Sting was cool stuff but then Starrcade 97 happened. Dungeon of Doom before Paul Wight showed up!? Shiiiid...terrible. Besides that, bad times...Bret getting kicked in the head after wallowing in wackness in WCW for a year after the Montreal whatever. And Steve Austin getting dropped on his head and having to be less of a hoss than he really was during his hot run. Shawn Damn Michaels being a drugged up/partially crippled mess and missing the core of the attitude era.

We've gotten to roughly a decade with 3 of the 4 Radicals being either not alive or basically missing.

And lawd...Kurt Angle and Jeff Hardy nowadays...

I skipped a lot between WM 21 and 24. I was live and in person for WM25 (aka HBK-Taker 1), so I've been at least at arm's length for everything since then through the ups and downs.

I love the network too. It is probably the best 9.99 a month I spend..either that or PSN+XBox Live.

But I need Vince and them to get this thing right. This roster is crawling with wrestling ass wrestlers. There's NO excuse to have bad wrestling basically anywhere on these cards. And good wrestlers should be doing good stuff. Cesaro, Dolph, American Dragon, etc...hell, even unreliable ass Orton.

Brock's run is awesome for something that has been completely fucked off. All of the stuff we're talking about with Brock having killer matches with these cats should be happening. Brock having..what..SIX matches with Cena or HHH and none with most of the best workers in the group is embarrassing. Hell..imagine him vs El Generico/Sami Zayn. A no-sold Helluva Kick or something. Imagine Brock catching him and F5-ing him when he does his 'jump through the corner' thing outside. And Sami would soak up that Ricky Morton heat vs a monster like Brock like no other. Awww man homie...WWE is playin tricks on me.

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158. "Ha, brilliant!"
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159. "It'd be even better with Swiss Death"
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Cesaro pops Brock into the air, hits him with the uppercut, and Brock just lands on his feet and smiles at him. . . DOG.

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169. "holy shit... LMAO, that would be a scene EVERYONE talked about"
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122. "That Rock vs Brock Summer Slam match is one of my faves"
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the building up was great.a dn they showed both of them working out two diffeent stylkes. and the match itself was high and energetic. I was cheering for rocky and he put brock over CLEAN..that was a dope match


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160. "Love it too.Rock was never afraid to roll with a change of plans"
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That Long Island crowd was all-in in Brock, so rather than ignore it and plow through like a dumb deaf babyface he played more heel. There's even a post-match promo he cut that didn't air on the PPV where he pretty much tells Long Island to go to hell. It's on YouTube and it's great.

He did the same thing against Hogan in Toronto.

Meanwhile moron Cena has no sold some of the most aggravated audiences in history for the last decade.

  

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163. "damn i didn't even see all my typos lol"
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131. "eyebrow @ Network free for February "
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132. "someone explain this to me RE the WWE network:"
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when they had their announcement for the network, WWE gave out goodie bags to people in attendance. one of the things inside was the google chromecast. ok now, months and months later, WWE STILL doesn't have chromecast capability. that just seems....not right to me lol

and i know about casting tabs from the web browser to my tv. but the timing gets off

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134. "LOL, wtf?!?!?!?!"
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142. "they even put it in WWE packaging LINK http://wrestlingnews.co/wp-conte..."
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138. "it's been a year. "
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i used tab casting on Prime the other night and it was OK.

haven't tried it with the network though.

  

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139. "Define ok."
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Just good enough, with annoyance? Or would use again and could, say, use to watch a show/movie?

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145. "we watched willy wonka with the kids"
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it probably 'stuttered' 3-4 times.

so...during game of thrones, no. for something not as important, it's ok.

that said, I read a reccomendation to play prime in Flash before using chromecast (there's a setting on Amazon). I'm not sure what WEE uses - probably silverlight.

So Prime may run better with chromecast.

It's a pretty dumb thing to not have support for.

  

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146. "I have an appleTV and Roku "
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but if that capability is available on chromecast it may be worth it.

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149. "worth it to buy a chromecast?"
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150. "yea "
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151. "it's cheap and easy to set-up"
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works natively with everything but Prime and WWE.

Apparently if you have a travel router, you can chromecast when you travel if the hotel has HDMI but I haven't tried it yet.

  

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152. "$29-$35 u can use a cell phone and with to watch the following listed:"
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https://www.google.com/chrome/devices/chromecast/apps.html


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153. "Has to be an android phone?"
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154. "Chromecast is good with any mobile device"
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Tablet or phone, android or iOS

Apps with native support will have the chromecast icon somewhere in the UI, while the Chromecast app (I think) now supports casting various screens on your device (not within non-supporting apps though)

  

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156. "no, any mobile phone, tablet, lap top. u just need wifi"
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161. "#punkwasright"
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the ppv financial model is dead, but this model was stillborn

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162. "1 million subscribers? "
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this model is the future and lauded as such.

you gonna be the first dude on facebook talking about how much you love #NBANetworkOnline.

  

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164. "I kinda love the network"
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165. "me too"
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need this outsider to step back

  

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166. "Nope. Punk’s issue wasn’t the model, it was a lack of answers. "
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He wanted to know how it affected paydays. Nobody had an answer. The model is immaterial. In terms of growth, the model isn’t the issue, it’s the lack of content.

PPV was already dying. Further, PPV revenues were split with carriers. Further still, the buy rate gap between Mania and some of the b/c level PPV’s is staggering. Mania might yield a much bigger payoff overall under the PPV model, doing in the ball park of a million buys in a given year, but those secondary shows often do less than a hundred thousand buys. A million subscribers at 9.99=steady revenue (more or less). Five years from now we’ll see how they’ve grown the product, but there’s no denying they abandoned a sinking ship in the PPV business.

A major issue is the lack of content. Sounds weird considering they’ve got an unreal amount of content in terms of PPV’s alongside their DVD documentaries, Rivalries and whatnot, but there are glaring holes.
While the collection of PPV’s is staggering, there are massive gaps that don’t allow us to watch them in context. There are years of programming such as WWE Superstars, WWE Challenge, etc. WCW Saturday night is completely absent. Far more egregious is the lack of Monday Night Raw, Smackdown, and Monday Nitro episodes. Shit, even Thunder, though that’s not a huge loss. There’s a ton of PPV material to watch but it would be nice to go back to the weekly shows that built these PPV matches. We get the first….. I dunno, year and a half worth of Nitro which is nice, but why not give us the entire collection? Same goes for Raw. For as much as they worship at the altar of the Attitude Era, so much of it is nowhere to be found unless we’re watching the umpteenth retrospective or a documentary of an AE star. I’d rather watch those episodes and follow along en route to the PPV climax of those stories.

I do think WWE is a bit delusional with their projections. They average what, four million (Nielson) viewers for Raw and Smackdown? They probably averaged around 300,000 PPV buys a month. I think I read that they expect to get about 3 million subscribers at some point, which would basically be three quarters of their flagship viewers and (estimating here) ten times their average PPV buyers. Given the discrepancy between average PPV buys and viewers, it’s an awfully large leap to project that many subscribers even with the price cut and included PPV’s.

I think they’d do well to add some sort of mutant blend of Spike and ABC Family, offering a small slate of original content along with shows that fir their demographic. It seems like a no-brainer to offer some form of content from NBC, for example. Even if it’s just SyFy and USA content. Viacom seems a natural partner for certain things (strike a deal to feature Comedy Central Roasts, maybe even shows like Naruto, for example). This obviously depends on preexisting contracts and I don’t know that they want to put too much non-wrestling content up there, but you get the point.

If they can move forward with strategic partnerships and offer some other form of content besides wrestling but captures the same demo, then they’d have a real shot at building something with upwards of 2 million subscribers. That’s easier said than done, especially with the cost of such content, but that’s still the direction I think they should be headed. There may be an issue in terms of how that additional revenue benefits wrestlers when WWE is paying for outside content, but since wrestlers are paid per appearance and such content would most likely be an upfront licensing fee, I think it would still benefit the wrestlers overall.

  

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141. "hmmm meltzer says Reigns and Rocky aren't truly cousins"
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afa and sika ...were not related to peter maivia according to meltzer. hmmm i never knew that


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143. "*Paging david Tua*"
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144. "Peter Maivia was considered a 'blood brother' of Amituana Anoa'i"
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He's viewed as an uncle by the the generation after Amituana. Family is family, blood or no blood…. Even if Reigns is talking about trusting his blood. LOL.

At any rate, they would do well to align him with the Usos.

  

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147. "i understand all that. i'm speaking biology"
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168. "And I'm speaking about it being a non story. "
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I’d have to read the context of how Meltzer said it but it’s sort of a silly thing to ‘point out’ in the world of fake wrestling. They played up a real-life family connection no differently than they play up (or used to, lol) a wrestlers real life personality or real life situations.

  

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170. "it wasn't spoken as a story. it was just an fact of him talking about "
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how roman's father broke into wrestling. they were fans and got introduced to peter. it's an interesting anecdote at that.

people didn't start thinking they were blood cousins after the royal rumble. lol the wwe pumped that ish up with EVERY samoan being related...even as far back on rock's dvds...





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171. "and considering the anderson brothers, edge christian, Lance Von Erich."
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hell jimmy and ronnie garvin. that was an interesting anecdote for a wrestling geek/fan like me.


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148. "u know what tho, i actually thought, a long time ago they should "
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have tried puttiung tamina in the shield to serve justice to the divas.. i thought that woulda been cool, since that was her "cousin" and all.




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155. "Pacific Islanders, man."
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To this day I still consider all kindsa folks "family" and "cousins" even though there's not a drop of blood shared between us.

Neighbors, friends of family, classmates, coworkers, it doesn't matter. As long as there's "that" kind of personal bond then it's all gravy.

  

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167. "Ha."
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http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/2015/01/five-years-ago-daniel-bryan-explained-why-everyones-so-pissed-about-the-2015-royal-rumble/

  

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174. "rumor has it they were planning Bryan vs. Sheamus at WM again"
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Until recently. Wtf is wrong with them?

  

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175. "WWE logic as sound as always"
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Sure Seth Rollins could just announce he is going to fight at Mania for the title and they'd have to let him, but instead he chooses to fight 2 matches to do it instead.

  

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177. "well, look, I actually think it SORT OF makes sense..."
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As a competitor at least it makes sense. As a heel maybe it doesn't quite make sense but as a competitor it makes sense.

If you had a free title shot at any time, wouldn't you take as many title shots as you could BEFORE you absolutely had to cash that freebie in?

Again, that would be Cena's logic. I don't know if your top heel should think that way. The heel thing to do would be for Rollins to announce he's cashing in at Mania and then insist he's NOT wrestling until then and make a troll job out of it for two months. That'd be great.

  

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178. "It's actually great logic. Why give up his trump card?"
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Especially as a heel?

If that's me, I'd rather get my title shot than use my trump card. If he says he's using his shot for the title match at mania, then loses the match, he wasted his biggest advantage. However, if he maneuvers his way into a title match and loses, he could live 5th fight another day. Hell, he can lose, attack his opponent after the match, and still cash in.

If you ask me he's playing that card shrewdly and patiently waiting for just the right time, and that's great logic....especially as a heel. I've said it before, but he's Edge 2.0 and this is Ultimate Opportunist thinking.



  

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179. "eh, the way they explained it to rollins made sense"
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Orton was the champ who whined at every opportunity. Rollins is the dude they actually have confidence in, and he enjoys being put in situations where they have confidence he'll overcome obstacles. If they automatically threw him in every title match it would get boring, if he whined too much about obstacles he would just be Orton 2.0. He's a very different character, so they need to distinguish him.

  

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176. "Stone Cold is too trill man. "
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Also, I have to think that Hunter knows when shit sucks. I have to. I can't watch NXT specials and listen to this interview and think that Hunter couldn't fix this shit in, like, six months.

  

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182. "is it me or did SCSA get real fat"
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maybe its just how he was sitting.

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183. "U, he's fit"
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180. "So Monday was Reigns first pinfall loss in singles comp since FCW. "
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How the fuck have they not been playing this up?

They could have built him and Rusev as too monsters on a collision course. Reigns/Rusev at Mania would have been big business and elevated that US strap nicely.

  

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181. "Reigns/Rusev at Mania = best idea you ever had bruh"
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Two undefeated hosses for a title in need of shine? "Nah fuck that." - Vince

  

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190. "I assume that loss is about making him more well-rounded..."
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He's battling the 'hand picked' tag and that as a stat which has never been brought up almost demonstrates how protected he's been.

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197. "I don't care about the loss. They blew a huge selling point"
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248. "Nah dude..."
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I hear what you're saying but I don't see how that's a selling point - and it clearly isn't an angle that can help Reigns right now. How's he supposed to say: "I know you're all mad at me for being hand-picked but top brass and not being ready to take this next step in my career and being pushed over other people, but let's put all that aside now and focus on the fact that I haven't lost a match since FCW".

I don't see how that endears to him fans at this point or makes him more sympathetic towards them.

Had he not been heading to Mania against Lesnar, had he not won the Rumble and faced the Backlash then absolutely, yes: him vs Rusev at Mania with that as the selling point would be perfect.

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249. "sounds like a huge ..."
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...missed opportunity.

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184. "I don't want this to come off pro-chyna but....."
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Triple H basically said rape>>>>>>porno

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185. "Hmmmmm no? And who raped who?"
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186. "Mike Tyson went to jail for rape right?"
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He's in the HOF right?

Again, just an observation

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187. "The facts of the case cast significant doubt on that. That was a bad con..."
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Further, it's not as though video of a Tyson involved rape is floating around.

I will say they need to be consistent and deny Waltman an entry as well.

  

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188. "Not sure Waltman qualifies regardless."
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Not to take away from his work, but...eh.

  

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189. "He'll get in with DX"
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193. "if he gets in with DX and not her, it's simply blatant sexism. n/m"
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196. "Nah. I'd say it's just plain hard feelings. "
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She's Hunter's ex and Hunter is now blowing out Steph's anus. I think they just latched on to the most corporate rationale they could find.

  

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198. "I was kinda shocked Stone Cold asked"
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and then when he had such a response I wasnt shocked anymore.

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"Well, he shouldn't get in for the same reason as Chyna."


  

          

One should remember that Chyna's costar in one of those movies was in fact Sean Waltman.

  

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223. "Why do you think I brought him up? Clearly, I remembered. know that."
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Hence me saying they need to be consistent and deny Waltman entry.

  

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235. "Please recheck to whom I just replied."
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Your user name, while it's been a couple of things over the last few years, hasn't ever been "pretentious username."

  

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238. "Ah shit. My bad. "
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244. "right, that's what i meant."
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>One should remember that Chyna's costar in one of those
>movies was in fact Sean Waltman.

  

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195. "I was just makin the point that it his answer was bs"
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He said a kid would google her and what would come up

Well a kid isnt about to break down forensics in a rape case.

But agree, u can let waltman in but you know he's in/

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199. "I'm just saying Tyson is a bad example"
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He's like the McDonald's Hot Coffee incident in that it's a situation that people tend to point to that usually doesn't hold up once the facts come into play.

  

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206. "1. he's a convicted rapist. 2. look up that hot coffee case"
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it was really misrepresented. (i know this has nothing to do with anything, but if you're interested, they did a short documentary about that case. they did that lady so wrong


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207. "hto coffee documentary http://youtu.be/KmEYWCg0J7Q"
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http://youtu.be/KmEYWCg0J7Q


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208. "Yeah, I saw that. She deserved every penny and more."
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230. "man the media and politicians did her wrong"
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209. "1. Tyson was wrongly convicted. 2. I know all about Hot Coffee"
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which was exactly my point.

"He's like the McDonald's Hot Coffee incident in that it's a situation that people tend to point to that usually doesn't hold up once the facts come into play."

The point is, these are cases people tend to use as examples in ways that don't align with the facts of the case.

You should probably do some research on the Tyson case if you think his conviction was just. There's more than enough evidence of all types on all sides to cast serious doubt, from the judge (heavy handed as fuck, shooting down pretty much everything that could have helped Tyson's case , who also had a well known history prosecuting sex crimes), Tyson (ahem: Don King's) lawyer, the integrity Washington (this wasn't her first accusation and the details of the previous accusation are pretty damning, not to mention the fact that she secured her attorney on a contingency for a pre-planned civil case, information that was suppressed from the jury) to the 'star witness' (a limo driver who Tyson wasn't exactly nice to who seems to have decided to get the last laugh in a really fucked up way) to the jury itself, a couple of who later regretted their decision after learning of the mountain of information they were never privy to.....yeah.

Tyson didn't really have a fair trial and the overall evidence strongly suggests reasonable doubt. So yeah, calling him a convicted rapist is correct but completely ignores the facts of the situation.BY that definition, Zimmerman didn't murder Trayvon Martin and cops are always justified when they murder someone, because they're never convicted.

If you're of the mind that a conviction means you did the crime and that's the end of it, there's nothing else to discuss.

Far as Hot Coffee, that's my entire point: people love to point to that as an example of wildly out of control, frivolous lawsuits, but the facts of the case don't support it being frivolous that anymore than the facts support Tyson being a rapist.

  

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229. "ehhh legally he's a convict. "
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234. "Ehhhhhhhh sorry but the facts actually matter. "
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212. "Thats all fine but it is not a bad example regarding the point I'm makin..."
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which is HHHs excuse that kids use google and if you google certain people bad things pop up with no context and because of that we can't have them in our sacred HOF.

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215. "Yes, it's a terrible example. "
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Do we have video of Tyson raping someone? No. Further, his public persona at the time he worked with WWE aligned with WWE's persona at the time.... and his public persona had changed right along with WWE's when he was inducted into the HOF. Further, the rape conviction can (and fucking SHOULD) be scrutinized and viewed as a grave injustice on the part of the legal system.

Can we head over to bing and watched Chyna fuck herself in the ass in one clip, get fucked in the ass in another clip, and get gangbanged by five guys pretending to be pro wrestlers in another clip?

Yep, sure can.

Oh, what about all the divas in Playboy? Rena Mero was naked, not getting her asshole hollowed out by a baseball team's worth of guys.

Yes, there's a huge difference there. There's a line.

This notion people have that a publicly traded corporation can't have a razor thin line of what they will and will not accept is absurd and much ado about nothing.

  

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216. "Tell it to the kids please. "
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217. "We're not talking to kids, we're talking to each other. "
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246. "but HHH's point is about reputation, not the video"
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he made a point to say he's not judging her from a moral standpoint, meaning it's admittedly a PR move. If that were the case, they wouldn't induct Tyson. They wouldn't be judging Tyson by not letting him in, just acknowledging it's not good PR to have someone convicted of rape in the HOF. When that person was just a celebrity appearance and doesn't have actual ties to the business, it makes even less sense that he's in and she isn't.

  

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192. "i haven't listened to the interview yet"
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but the idea of them playing moral police on basically anything is hilarious. As others have pointed out, they had HHH act out necrophilia.

  

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218. "There's a clear distinction between today's product and yesterdays"
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I'm not holding them up as some sort of moral authority or anything, but there's a huge difference between what they do today and what they did ten-fifteen years ago.

There's a valid argument for hypocrisy if we're contrasting this stance with the things they're doing today, but not if we're pulling out relics of a bygone era.

  

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243. "But if the WWE has done crazy shit and it's up on the network"
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how is he worried about what a kid is going to find on google? if they truly feel that way it's hypocritical, but even moreso they're just overthinking it.

  

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191. "I know it's an impossible question for Steve to ask but..."
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I'd love for him to have asked Vince and HHH honestly about Daniel Bryan - what their thought process was between last year's Rumble and Mania and why it seems fans are being ignored about his 'push'.

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194. "Again, I refuse to believe Hunter is that stupid"
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I'm willing to bet Hunter gets the Daniel Bryan thing. Look at how much creative freedom he's given his own guys in NXT.

I think the problem is Vince.

  

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200. "RE: Again, I refuse to believe Hunter is that stupid"
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Yes, everyone says 'Vince is still the boss' etc so I'd say you're right but I'd love a genuine explanation of the logic behind it. I think it breaks kayfabe too much to ask that question which is why I didn't expect it for either interview.

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201. "one of the biggest slaps in the face to me. is how titus o'neil was"
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booked to walk in the ring, and get immediately eliminated in 1 second. like back in the day it was ok for barbarian, people thought it was "real" and unscripted", santino? well he was the comedy guy.... nowadays...you pay a guy to come put on his gear, walk in and walk out.

unless u are super monster (to shock folks and push a story line), or comedy relief is there any other way to sh*t on a guy's character? have they even let him address it? hell they got 5- hours of tv.

that's just dumb.



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203. "while I agree with you"
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Curtis Axel showed-up to not even get into the ring.

  

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204. "And he got time to tell the world he deserves Brock"
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and I personally, believe him.

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213. "And he got his ass beat right after"
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Lower card guys get lower card moments. It is what it is.

The real issue is that they should present everyone as a star overall so that the overall product is better, but these specific moments are of no consequence unless we're talking about them in the context of the greater damage being done.

  

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214. "Its like they book some guys with OKS-level agendas"
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227. "axel needs a repackaging and a mouthpiece, but i think he's too far"
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gone for repair. why even change his name anyway? mcgillicutty, axel, it's foolish, name him hennig. use a real last name.

that dude is BORING tho



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239. "only reason I care about dude is because his dad was a boss"
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If he weren't a Hennig I'd like his size but that's about it. He's got a face for a Florida marsh and zero charisma.

Curt bought him an awful lot of leeway though. Not just in ring either, every word I've ever heard said about the guy is that he was as stand-up as they get. He might be the only guy I've ever heard Bret put over more than Austin. The only other guy with a rep as sterling as Curt Hennig is Taker from what I've seen.

  

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205. "but at least there was a reason behind it. had to do with the wyatts"
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looks like it was pushing some kind of angle...(why did they break up the wyatt family anyway?)

but what does it do for anybody to have someone just jump in the ring and jump out? that's a waste of money and resources


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241. "harper/rowan make no sense to me"
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they should have been tag champs and now rowan hangs out with cena. it's stupid.

  

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211. "Why is that such a huge slap in the face? "
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There's always some guy who gets jobbed out in a bad way in the rumble.
It's not like they're doing shit with him anyways, so it's really of no consequence that he drew the boobie prize this year.

  

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219. "are u SERIOUSLY asking this question? i just explained why"
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unless u're a comedy act (for laughs)....or a monster (for shock value)...it's basically a burial. and there was no story behind it...only to say the record for shortest amount is tied with santino?

hell they wanna cut costs, that was a waste of money to bring someone in to do that. and it's a lazy tactic now



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221. "Are you SERIOUSLY this upset that a career jobber got jobbed out?"
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Lol

He's a jobber. He got jobbed out. The end.

There's zero reason to be upset by that.

There's reason to be upset at the complete lack of regard for everything below the main event picture.

There's no reason to be angry about a jobber to get jobbed out at the rumble when something similar happens to someone in most years. You may as well go yell at traffic.

  

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224. "what part of "a slap to a talent's face" aren't u understanding"
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i'm not upset CT. it's just a stupid, lazy way to script out a match.


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225. "better yet. it's the finger poke of doom ..except they do it"
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every year. there's a purpose for doing it, gill berg, santino, there was ZERO reasoning behind it this time. it's pretty stupid. if u can't see that, then i can't help you, smarty.


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233. "It's nothing like the finger poke, and it is stupid "
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It's also of zero consequence, nothing to think twice about and no big deal whatsoever. You can't bury a guy who isn't doing a hit as it is.

  

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231. "What part of "career jobber" don't you get? it wasn't the match either."
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Hell, his whole career has been a slap to his face.

It's the Rumble. Quick exits are part of the match and always have been. We're you this outraged over Warlord? Or do you think he was some important monster instead of the forgettable mid-carder he really was?

Further, it was a small part of the match it's like the 30th in a list of 39 things to be upset about and you're soap boxing like it mattered in the least.

He's a jobber. He jobbed. The end.

  

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232. "ok, bruh"
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202. "tryngin to figure out what arnold has to do with wrestling...other than"
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appearing in two movies with jesse the body, and being on smackdown to promote a movie lol


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210. "WWE has a 'celebrity wing' of their HOF "
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222. "i know but each celeb has something to do with wrestling. eample"
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pete was the 1st one (since they wouldn't let him into baseball) he's done several sports and taken tombstones,
mr t..nuff saif.

drew carey was in a match.

arnold showed up one time lol wasn't it? twice at the most. who's next LL Cool J? actually run dmc should they've made wwf songs, been at wrestlemania...AND wcw lol

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226. "He cold cocked Triple H, had posing moment with Hogan, and inducted Brun..."
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It's a completely arbitrary hall of fame to begin with and the celebrity wing isn't exactly sacred ground.

Nobody should be worked up up over this.

  

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228. "^^cheered drew carrey^^ lol bruh, u the most worked up"
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/tryna be above it all dude in this post. next up. sylvester stallone.

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236. "above what, exactly? Whiny, petty complaints about shut that doesn't ma..."
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>/tryna be above it all dude in this post. next up. sylvester
>stallone.

Riiiiiiight. That's what people say when they can't bring themselves to admit they're wrong or over thinking something.

I'm not worked up, in fact I've rather calmly and articulately stated my case in these exchanges while you busted out the 'what part of my poor thought process don't you get?????' Card.

No dice, chino. FOH trying to turn this into anything more on my end.

  

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237. "lol ok, bruh"
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220. "and why the hell, after building the wyatts to what they were, does"
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eric rowan have a twitter? lol that whole getting fired to get his job back story line made sense for ryback, and dolph, but eric? lol

then they wanna say eric rowan was twitter earlier tonight and tweeted a message to the authority .... lol just stupid

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240. "Agreed. They've completely fucked off their social media "
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They're clueless.

I loved that they were taking a serious approach to social media because it really is a useful tool for any business, but they've screwed the pooch on that so badly it's befuddling. They had a great chance to create something truly immersive and interactive and just plain don't know what they're doing.

Nobody from the Wyatt's should be on there in character, for one. Two, they should really separate personal accounts from character accounts.

  

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242. "i really can't believe how much they screwed up social media"
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like when you look at how popular "in character" twitter accounts are, it makes perfect sense that they could make absolute gold out of that.

im gonna chalk that up to vince being old and out of touch.

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245. "AND THEY HAVE BRAY PROMOTE THE NETWORK!!!"
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I mean it's one thing if you sell shirts that they don't actually wear (it makes sense that the WWE/Authority would want to make money off a popular thing), but it makes no sense for Bray to agree to any promotional material for someone else if he's supposed to be a cult leader.

  

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247. "what better way to grow your flock?"
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than more eyes on you?

  

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250. "Anyone watch last week's NXT?"
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Balor-Itami was pretty great. Hideo made that dropkick into the corner look absolutely vicious. I can't say I pay attention to Japanese wrestling, so I only know both of these dudes from what I've seen so far on NXT, but I like both of them. Balor seems like a can't miss star already. He's incredible.

I was enjoying Neville-Corbin until the ending sequence. I get why they had it play out that way, though. I was interested to see Corbin in a regular-length match against a good opponent, and I guess we got most of the way there. I don't particularly care about another Corbin-Bull Dempsey match, but it's a no DQ match so maybe they'll just beat the living shit out of each other for like 10 minutes and that'll be that.

Anyway, another live special this Wednesday, and it should be fantastic. Zayn-Owens, four-way women's title match and Neville-Balor should all be killer, plus whatever happens in the Corbin-Bull and tag matches. I'm excited for it.

  

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251. "RE: Anyone watch last week's NXT?"
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Itami's Japan stuff is ridiculous. Shit is physical with a bunch of video game moves and reversals. A lot of people showed a gang of ass for him...eating stiff kicks galore. And they sold for him. And they didn't go out of their way to 'make him look small'. Of course, he's also the inspiration for most of Phil's wwe offense as well as Brian's running knee+ finisher.

real talk, if you want to enjoy yaself, roll up on some indy highlights on YouTube. Kevin Steen vs El Generico will have you ready for Owens vs Zayn. KENTA. Bryan danielson. Tyler black shit will let you know for sho that Rollins is about to be the king shit for the next decade unless wwe has jokes or he gets hurt.

I've been doing that and watching wwe network all day. I am in the midst of watching random Brock Lesnar stuff. I still can barely believe Brock vs Goldberg with scsa as ref in 2004 somehow didn't go well. I get that they were both leaving but damn...Maybe wwe was getting too greedy with the hulk hogan big match (wm6 vs warrior) template. Aka trying to heat-check every move to make limited action look and feel like more than what it is. Meanwhile, even Stone Cold was in the ring looking like 'damn guys, let's go'. But they hossed it more than I remember. That hogan-Lesnar match from smackdown was a whole lot of nothing but at least Hulk showed SOME ass in between jackass nosells. And he sold the f5 like a Barry White Driver.

>Balor-Itami was pretty great. Hideo made that dropkick into
>the corner look absolutely vicious. I can't say I pay
>attention to Japanese wrestling, so I only know both of these
>dudes from what I've seen so far on NXT, but I like both of
>them. Balor seems like a can't miss star already. He's
>incredible.
>
>I was enjoying Neville-Corbin until the ending sequence. I get
>why they had it play out that way, though. I was interested to
>see Corbin in a regular-length match against a good opponent,
>and I guess we got most of the way there. I don't particularly
>care about another Corbin-Bull Dempsey match, but it's a no DQ
>match so maybe they'll just beat the living shit out of each
>other for like 10 minutes and that'll be that.
>
>Anyway, another live special this Wednesday, and it should be
>fantastic. Zayn-Owens, four-way women's title match and
>Neville-Balor should all be killer, plus whatever happens in
>the Corbin-Bull and tag matches. I'm excited for it.

  

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Cold Truth
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252. "Looks like Vince caved. Looks like Bryan is going to main event WM "
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http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/550703-reported-wrestlemania-31-main-event-changed-due-to-fan-reaction-vince-mcmahons-reasons-for-making-the-switch

4WOnline.com is reporting there are big changes coming to the proposed Wrestlemania 31 main event between Roman Reigns and current World Heavyweight Champion Brock Lesnar.

Daniel Bryan is expected to be added to the match, making it a triple threat after Vince McMahon reportedly called a meeting this week and discussed the changes.

We previously reported WWE would not repeat a triple threat again this year, and wouldn’t cater to the fans again, but this does not appear to be the case any longer. McMahon reportedly wanted to make the changes after recent crowd reactions.

Plans could still always change between now and the WWE Fastlane pay-per-view, but the plan at the moment is to move the show towards booking the triple threat.

  

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253. "So Fastlane is pointless just like the Rumble?"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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Cold Truth
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254. "Why is it pointless? Why was the Rumble pointless? "
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I’m not saying they’re doing a great job in their storytelling because they’ve been terrible. I don’t see how Fastlane or the Rumble are pointless though.

Either way, I don’t particularly care how or why they get Bryan in there so long as they get Bryan in there, because that match with him will be far better than that match without him.

  

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255. "had to be done."
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263. "This is good for Reigns..."
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It's fine. They addressed the Reigns thing for now. They get to do something good with his character instead of making him the worst things that cena is minus the experience and some of the wrestling. Db is the number one face and he's now in the main program. Brock is still an snk boss. Cena gets lost in the sauce of Russev but that's okay by me. Rollins has the briefcase and is the clear next king shit. He'll get saddled with good but pointless matches with Orton before his 'shocking' cash-in the Monday after mania when Brock retains. But that's fine for now. Add creepy Sting vs Hunter since taker and sting can't carry each other to a more 'lay around' version of hbk/taker, bray vs naptaker, and a couple other things aren't a bad mania. Dolph gets a short end but water is wet. I wish he had some better offensive moves and a legal counsel to parse his statements at all times. He'll get heel sheamus. Cesaro...sweet sweet Cesaro...who knows what awaits him. Maybe he'll work with Neville in April. authority with Cesaro and Sheamus would be an upgrade over Kane Show.

>http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/550703-reported-wrestlemania-31-main-event-changed-due-to-fan-reaction-vince-mcmahons-reasons-for-making-the-switch
>
>4WOnline.com is reporting there are big changes coming to the
>proposed Wrestlemania 31 main event between Roman Reigns and
>current World Heavyweight Champion Brock Lesnar.
>
>Daniel Bryan is expected to be added to the match, making it a
>triple threat after Vince McMahon reportedly called a meeting
>this week and discussed the changes.
>
>We previously reported WWE would not repeat a triple threat
>again this year, and wouldn’t cater to the fans again, but
>this does not appear to be the case any longer. McMahon
>reportedly wanted to make the changes after recent crowd
>reactions.
>
>Plans could still always change between now and the WWE
>Fastlane pay-per-view, but the plan at the moment is to move
>the show towards booking the triple threat.

  

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264. "Woah..."
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The roof would go off the building if Rollins cashed in the next night on Raw as you describe. As epic a moment as it would be - particularly if Lesnar is there to say he's leaving - I kinda hope that doesn't happen as I'm loving heel Seth right now.

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