HIAC Card:

Hell in a Cell
Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins

Hell in a Cell
Winner Gets WWE World Heavyweight Title Match
John Cena vs. Randy Orton

WWE Tag Team Championship
Gold & Stardust (c) vs. The Usos

U.S. Championship
Sheamus (c) vs. The Miz

Rusev vs. The Big Show

The loser has to be the winner's personal assistant for 30 days
Nikki Bella vs. Brie Bella

WWE Diva's Title
AJ Lee (c) vs. Paige

2 Out of 3 Falls Match
Intercontinental Title
Dolph Ziggler vs. Cesar


I think the 2/3 falls match will be the match of the night ...

Hell in a Cell
Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins
I expect some kind of fuckery (AKA Kane interference). It's hard to call the winner, but I'm thinking potentially Ambrose wins off of some kind of botched (or not-so-botched?) interference with Orton.

Hell in a Cell
Winner Gets WWE World Heavyweight Title Match
John Cena vs. Randy Orton
NEEDS to be Randy Orton. We do NOT need Lesnar/Cena for a 3rd straight time. I'm assuming WWE knows this too, and they set up a Randy/Brock program perfectly with him RKOing Heyman as well as Rollins not-so-subtly hinting that he hopes to cash in his MITB contract on him.

WWE Tag Team Championship
Gold & Stardust (c) vs. The Usos
The Dust Brothers, though I think eventually The Usos will be getting these back in order to feud with whoever the next tag team primed for the belts will be. Let me just add I hate how the tag belts are basically the same as they were in the 2006-2009 SmackDown era where a team would debut, win the belts within a few months, hold them for half a year, drop them and disappear. Remember those grease head dudes?

U.S. Championship
Sheamus (c) vs. The Miz
Who cares. The real winner of this match will of course be Mizdow. I guess Sheamus, hopefully leading to a unification feud with Cesaro?

Rusev vs. The Big Show
Rusev crush. Big Show cry. Mark Henry involved somehow.

The loser has to be the winner's personal assistant for 30 days
Nikki Bella vs. Brie Bella
Nikki. How the hell would a face having a heel for a servant be interesting at all. Should be fun to see what terrible things Nikki has Brie do over the next month, and who terribly it will be acted. Maybe she can force Brie to get hammered, go into Brie mode, cheat on Bryan and admit to herself that deep down she's not Ms. Save-The-Earth and is just as much as a skank as Nikki?

WWE Diva's Title
AJ Lee (c) vs. Paige
Really? Again? AJ Lee.

2 Out of 3 Falls Match
Intercontinental Title
Dolph Ziggler vs. Cesaro
Dolph has been made to look like a week ass champ in recent weeks. Cesaro deserves the belt but certainly needs to work on his pipe skills. With my Sheamus win prediction as well as hope for IC/US unification, I'll go with Cesaro to stay consistent.

I agree we are going to get an Orton vs Lesnar match, and I'm guessing Rollins costs Orton that match which can lead to them feuding through the Rumble.

Tonight maybe Orton "accidently" costs Rollins the match, or maybe just does it on purpose since he likely will have to be face to fight Lesnar anyway.

I'm excited for a Rollins vs Orton feud, I think that's a great use for both of them.

this Network stream on my PS3 hasnt looked this good in 6 months....




We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

I had a little bit of shenanigans but nothing like before. I started watching an hour or so later. I enjoyed it overall.

Nikki once again was hossing it up AND giving up spectacular views. Cenawinsduh but Orton should've won via crazy RKO spots. They at least let him do what felt like 2 or so too many kickouts. Cesaro/Ziggler handled their biz by building on all of their prior matches in classic feud fashion. It would be great if WWE could pretend that it mattered, but they can't. Mizdow is just grand. Sandow should be a made man from this stuff. Rollins/Ambrose = probably the best you can do with having something look crazy without actually doing anything super duper crazy. That double HBK fall through the tables was certainly something. That finish though...no one should've okay'd. Hillbilly Jesus gets something to do though, so we'll see.

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>this Network stream on my PS3 hasnt looked this good in 6
>months....
>
>
>
>
>We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
>That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
>Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
>We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
>- Andy Mineo

I put very little thought into any of these.

>Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins

Ambrose clean.

>John Cena vs. Randy Orton

Orton via skullduggery.

>Gold & Stardust (c) vs. The Usos

Usos via DQ.

>Sheamus (c) vs. The Miz

Sheamus clean.

>Rusev vs. The Big Show

Rusev via count out.

>Nikki Bella vs. Brie Bella

Don't care.

>AJ Lee (c) vs. Paige

Paige clean.

>Dolph Ziggler vs. Cesar

Ziggler clean.

>>Nikki Bella vs. Brie Bella
>
>Don't care.

We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

As in she almost killed herself

>As in she almost killed herself

Ha! Yeah, I was a bit nervous for her while watching that. I've gotta say, the Bellas are really going for it. I lost interest in this feud in the lead up to this PPV, but I enjoyed that match a lot. I can't say I'm looking forward to a month of personal assistant storylines, but maybe they'll prove me wrong again.

I feel like I'm having a seizure

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in fact, I dare say that's what made Cena in the first place
but knowing that Vince ain't about that continuity I doubt they'll go there

(that was actually my favorite thing about SmackDown Cena, the fact that he was a heel openly challenging Lesnar, even going so far to introduce a finisher mocking the F-5 (which he still uses today)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0dNrtc1D1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8uPhgLcNLU)

but it is something we've seen numerous times over the last decade.

I still consider Cena/Orton to be the HHH/Rock of the "modern age" but Cena/Lesnar is kind of like the Rock/Austin version of that.

They could have a good match but...they better book it right

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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but I still enjoyed it. That RKO out of Cena's finisher was pretty nuts.

just throwing bags on top of each other

AND SHE LEFT HER PHONE IN THE TRUNK

You have this great feud thats gone on for so long and this was likely the payoff match and that's a pretty weak way to end this feud.

Now we will go on to Rollins vs Orton and Wyatt vs Ambrose but I don't feel satisfied.

>You have this great feud thats gone on for so long and this
>was likely the payoff match and that's a pretty weak way to
>end this feud.
>
>Now we will go on to Rollins vs Orton and Wyatt vs Ambrose but
>I don't feel satisfied.

Yeah, I think that's a fair reaction. I pretty much had the same one, but I'm super pumped for Wyatt/Ambrose and Orton/Rollins.

I felt like Rollins/Ambrose had lost some steam recently. The prop comedy stuff was hit and miss for me. They can have Rollins and Ambrose circle around each other in other feuds for a bit, and ramp that shit back up later (maybe for Mania?). And I'm a big fan of giving Wyatt something to do, and putting him in the main event. I don't know. In the moment, I was a bit disappointed another Rollins/Ambrose match was ending with a non-ending, but I'm already loving it more the more I think about it.

'cause that was pretty wack.

what was up with the princess-leia-like hologram gimmick?

glad i didn't pay for the network renewal.

They may revisit it down the line, there will always be something there, but clearly we are moving on to Ambrose vs Wyatt.

I'm guessing we start to see Rollins vs Orton really ramp up tonight.

9.99 is still worth it for me, even when the PPV is bad I can entertain myself for at least a few hours a month on the network which is worth 10 bucks.

and maybe they have the real blowoff at Wrestlemania.

the timeline and sequencing they are doing doesn't make much sense but i enjoy the shows

http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

Most of it is stuff that already exists from previous DVDs and specials they have done.

I like the way they are doing it because you can also just skip around and not watch ones you don't feel like (for example, I own the Austin DVD and his episode is basically just an hour of stuff taken from that). But it was cool to watch an hour all about the Goldberg rise and fall as I had basically switched to Raw only by that point.

I couldnt imagine if that happened today

http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

So much about it. People would never stand for some guy smashing 80 straight jobbers on Raw. Ryback was close and people got sick of him doing it pretty quickly (not to mention just considering him a Goldberg rip off).

They would also never put a guy in a match like that today knowing how bad he would look, that was just a stupid move on WCW's part, but yea if that happened today it would pretty much destroy his whole character, people would be all over social media and the internet with it and they would have to address it on TV and kill the momentum.

Anytime a wrestler starts with any kind of streak now people start talking about Goldberg, and what was also proven in his build is that once you beat that guy it's pretty much over. WWE has tried it with heels like Umaga and as soon as Cena beat them that was the end. Rusev is likely in for a similar fate. If anything Goldberg is a cautionary tale of what happens when you build a guy too fast and too strong. It was great for them in the short term and they needed the boost, but clearly the long term plan was a mess (just like everything they did in that era). Now guys have to take some early losses just so that it's not a giant ordeal when they lose big matches later.

but was that dude even training inbetween shows?? I mean he barely could run the ropes during that match and that was pretty deep into the streak.

At that time tho, I remember it being such an event when he would come out and seeing it now its just comical.

http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

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Ziggler just hanging off of him like 200+ lbs of extra weight giving no support or help

gonna have to watch that match tonight.

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This Fall's PPVs have been MUCH better than last Fall's, but I still hate how they insist on stalling the major storylines until the Rumble.

>HIAC Card:
>
> Hell in a Cell
>Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins

Would've preferred a clean finish here. But they told a good story here. These guys hate each other, and it oozed out in every move. Looking forward to a Wyatt-Ambrose feud, but they still have a lot of work to do to make me care about Bray again.

>
>Hell in a Cell
>Winner Gets WWE World Heavyweight Title Match
>John Cena vs. Randy Orton

They tried, but no one is interested, least of all in a Cena win. About as entertaining as it could have been, and I always love a quick RKO reversal. Shouldn't have used a chair though. They knew chairs were gonna come in to play in the Ambrose match.

>
>WWE Tag Team Championship
>Gold & Stardust (c) vs. The Usos

Good match, as always, wonder what they'll do next?

>
>U.S. Championship
>Sheamus (c) vs. The Miz

Mizdow!

>
>Rusev vs. The Big Show

I'll take it. Still feels like they coulda done something much more creative here though.

>
>The loser has to be the winner's personal assistant for 30
>days
>Nikki Bella vs. Brie Bella

Solid. Booked the way it should have been. Love Nikki's brutal style honestly. She's mean as hell, and that torture rack is vicious. This feud has been wildly inconsistent. When it's serious, it's good. When it's silly, it's awful. When it's too serious, it's the worst. They had a good balance tonight.

>
>WWE Diva's Title
>AJ Lee (c) vs. Paige

Good. Now let's move on.

>
>2 Out of 3 Falls Match
>Intercontinental Title
>Dolph Ziggler vs. Cesar
>

I approve of this as well.


BONUS: Bo Dallas vs. Mark Henry

BOOOOOOOOOO

then have Rollins cash in on him.
That's what they should do

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It's Cena or the mega face they want to push at Mania whoever that is (probably Reigns)

Just hope they let him keep some of the personality he showed as a heel, but man, it's good to see him "warming up" the Meathook.

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they can try to push him to the moon as a powerhouse face again, but folks are probably gonna tire of it quickly (again).

he got some boos actually during a couple spots in that match last night.

>they can try to push him to the moon as a powerhouse face
>again, but folks are probably gonna tire of it quickly
>(again).

There's no main event if you can't go 20. I can't imagine sitting through a 20-minute Ryback match. Holy crap that sounds horrible.

So many strong candidates:

Lesnar - his contract expires after WM so, if he doesn't renew, will he hold it til then, plus who's the person who will ultimately take the belt from him?

Reigns - they may as well start carving his name into it cos it'd be a miracle if he doesn't get his hands on it at some point next year.

Rollins - he's done everything he needs to justify holding that briefcase - amazing worker, amazing heat, but when's he gonna cash in and will it result in a title win?

Bryan - sadly, I think he's at the bottom of this list. It didn't seem like WWE were keen on giving the belt to him in the first place and his absence has really made way for too many other names to fill the spot. Hope to be proved wrong though.

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there needs to be a second major championship, even if it doesn't make sense. I was thinking about this while watching Ryback. They're re-pushing him as a face cause they need a few of those. Totally cool, and I actually got excited when he came out the other night... but now what? He'll make his way back up the ranks quickly and then either grab a midcard title that doesn't mean anything, or feud with a big heel over nothing and probably lose. Even if he wins, there's nothing to do after that. Same thing with Orton. He'll feud with the authority, and then what? Same thing for the winner of the Wyatt-Ambrose feud or Bryan when he comes back. Rollins seems to be the central unifying force that the title used to be, and that's great for him, but it doesn't give the roster much to do.

It's also forced recent former world champions into feuding over the IC and US titles, which in theory I'm fine with as long as legitimate midcarders are in the mix as well, but they're really not. Plus, Ziggler keeps losing anyway and no one cares about Sheamus.

>It's also forced recent former world champions into feuding
>over the IC and US titles, which in theory I'm fine with as
>long as legitimate midcarders are in the mix as well, but
>they're really not. Plus, Ziggler keeps losing anyway and no
>one cares about Sheamus.

sometimes I feel if he didn't absolutely SUCK from all angles, WWE would have put the World Title on The Masterpiss Chris Masters.

Sheamus is "cool" but he really was an over elevated midcarder IMO, he has an unforgettable look and a couple of good finishers but he is so mired in gimmickry that if not for Vince Logic he would have never been elevated

I don't quite see him the same as Cena, Orton, Lesnar even Punk...

(how bad is it that the first three mentioned were essentially big names of the previous decade)

I think Sheamus is so good but is now just a cartoon character

Caught the first episode and it was a lot better than I expected. There's a lot of familiar names: John Morrison, Chavo Guererro, Konnan. Matt Striker and Vampiro handle commentary. The wrestling is set in an NXT-sized soundstage with an "underground"/kumite look.

The first episode did a good job distinguishing the promotion from WWE. They use a lot more different camera angles including a pretty dope overhead camera. The wrestling's a lot quicker - feels like the cruiserweight matches from Nitro. Striker and Vampiro do a good job of selling the moves on commentary and providing context for all of the wrestlers. They even took a few jabs at WWE - "You won't find any 6 year olds in bright colored t-shirts here!"

I'm not sure if I'm feeling heavily produced Metastsis-style vignettes to progress the storylines though. Maybe it'll grow on me but I prefer a more "sports" style presentation.

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>Caught the first episode and it was a lot better than I
>expected. There's a lot of familiar names: John Morrison,
>Chavo Guererro, Konnan. Matt Striker and Vampiro handle
>commentary. The wrestling is set in an NXT-sized soundstage
>with an "underground"/kumite look.
>
>The first episode did a good job distinguishing the promotion
>from WWE. They use a lot more different camera angles
>including a pretty dope overhead camera. The wrestling's a lot
>quicker - feels like the cruiserweight matches from Nitro.
>Striker and Vampiro do a good job of selling the moves on
>commentary and providing context for all of the wrestlers.
>They even took a few jabs at WWE - "You won't find any 6 year
>olds in bright colored t-shirts here!"
>
>I'm not sure if I'm feeling heavily produced Metastsis-style
>vignettes to progress the storylines though. Maybe it'll grow
>on me but I prefer a more "sports" style presentation.

.. the rags are saying Del Rio will join the roster sooner or later.

and i'm not crazy about big rick and his crew, but it seems like this show understands storytelling. and i love the action. the pace of these matches is very refreshing.

It feels like an actual alternative wrestling program instead of the wwe lite feel of tna, which I've basically stopped watching. Sure, we still get the evil owner deal but I'm good for now. And if it gets Puma to a higher level, bonus.

>Caught the first episode and it was a lot better than I
>expected. There's a lot of familiar names: John Morrison,
>Chavo Guererro, Konnan. Matt Striker and Vampiro handle
>commentary. The wrestling is set in an NXT-sized soundstage
>with an "underground"/kumite look.
>
>The first episode did a good job distinguishing the promotion
>from WWE. They use a lot more different camera angles
>including a pretty dope overhead camera. The wrestling's a lot
>quicker - feels like the cruiserweight matches from Nitro.
>Striker and Vampiro do a good job of selling the moves on
>commentary and providing context for all of the wrestlers.
>They even took a few jabs at WWE - "You won't find any 6 year
>olds in bright colored t-shirts here!"
>
>I'm not sure if I'm feeling heavily produced Metastsis-style
>vignettes to progress the storylines though. Maybe it'll grow
>on me but I prefer a more "sports" style presentation.

Just finished E3. Between this and NXT, there's finally some stuff on that I don't have to feel like a moron for watching.

Not only is the action great, but these promotions work as *shows* as well. Something Raw hasn't done in a long time.

Heads up for those that don't know.

I don't really watch anymore but it's nice to see some throwback ppvs and you get to watch this months for free as well.

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