http://hoops.sports.ws/

They've done some new, sexy things to the site that I like and the phone functionality has improved significantly. I think I might paypal them a few bucks just off GP. These guys were the right owners and we all benefit from it. Join the league (info below) and play around with some of the new features.

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Roster:

1) Robe
2) The Deputy Commish
3) The Commish
4) Frank Longo
5) Theo
6) Ernie
7) Matty Ice
8) Basa
9) Boogs
10)LABeat
11)Ryan M
12)TJT
13)Shawn
14)Ceej
15)Magilla
16)TheRealBillyOcean

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Bidness:

The league has been set up: OKP Survivor Season X: A Kings Robe
Go Join Now!
Password: http://youtu.be/vdtZmPEsXwY (No spaces...all one word)
Logo -
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Vote results:
1)New Entry Fee:
14 votes-
9 for option 3 ($60 going forward)
5 for option 1 ($100 going forward)
New fee is $60 going forward (until we decide on another increase)

2)Fanduel-
10 to 1 for Nay

3)Division Draft/Realignment
7-3 Yay - Most prevalent choice was to randomize rather than draft and Cenario proposed an idea so I'll let the league choose between the two and we'll do whichever is chose and immediately assign divisions.

Draft:

-Friday, Oct 17 (Noon EST) thru Sunday, Oct 19 (6pm EST): 8 hour time limit to pick. Set contingencies because the clock will even run overnight.

-Sunday, Oct 19 (6pm EST) thru Monday, Oct 20, (Noon EST) clock off but picks can still be made.

-Monday, Oct 20, Noon-1pm EST, LIVE Draft* (see below on time limit).
1pm-5pm EST, Slow draft, 12 min time limit.

-Draft continues untimed from 5pm EST through noon EST on Tuesday, Oct 21st.

-(If necessary)Tuesday, Oct 21, Noon-1pm EST, LIVE Draft* (see below on time limit).
1pm-5pm EST, Slow draft, 15 min time limit.

*Live draft time limit will be determined by how much we finish over the weekend. If we finish between 2.5 to 3 rounds, the Live draft pick time limit will be 5 mins. If we finish less than 2.5 rounds, the Live draft pick time limit will be 3 mins.

FEE:
Fee of $60 will be due Thursday, October 23rd. Late payment results in loss of IR benefit for the entire season.

There's an additional $160 added to the pot this year so the below would be the payouts:
-Division Winners: $60 ($50 prior)
-Runner Up: $240 ($200 prior)
-Champion: $480 ($400 prior)

However, I've proposed a few participation ideas that would decrease the pot by $30. If we agree on one of those, I'll dock $20 from the winner and $10 from the runner up pot ($460 & $230).

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Participation exercises:
-This season everyone will contribute to the rankings video. We'll be inboxing/announcing in the season posts in regard to who's up next. This will require 2 things: audio (most phones have a voice recorder) and email to send the audio.

-As this is the 10th season we've been at this, I'm thinking for those of us that are unfamiliar with each other IRL, we could all submit one pic for usage in the rankings videos (I did this for a few of us last season...Basa, Shawn, Ceej...felt like it brought some humanity to you inhumane bastids lol).

-There have been some ideas thrown around regarding creative ways to maintain participation (Pot for best 3 year avg) and I have a few suggestions:

1)The Loser reward - The best non-playoff team would receive half of their entry fee back ($30). This would reward those at the bottom of the standings for continuing to fight through adversity.

OR

2)The best trash talker prize - The GM voted best trash talker gets half their entry fee back ($30). This would encourage participation even if your team sucks because it's based on wit moreso than standings.

I'll post these for vote also.

Once again...IT'S ON!!!!

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Vote on both here:

Vote 1)Division Draft/Realignment
A-Most prevalent choice was to randomize (I'll find an online randomizer and rock 'n roll from there)

B-Cenario's Alphabets:

I put all the managers in alphabetical order according to their login name on ws and came up with this. Seems pretty fair to me...

AB
basa
Ceej
Cenario

deyote
Ernie
Frank
Jboogs

jerseytornado
Labeat
magilla
realbilly

Rob
ryan
shawn
theo

Vote 2)Participation Ideas

A-The Loser reward - The best non-playoff team would receive half of their entry fee back ($30). This would reward those at the bottom of the standings for continuing to fight through adversity.

B-The best trash talker prize - The GM voted best trash talker gets half their entry fee back ($30). This would encourage participation even if your team sucks because it's based wit moreso than standings.

C-None of the above

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I won't say which, but I think we all know which.

If "fairness" is the aim, then determine the records (or the win %) for the owners over the last 3 years and distribute the owners evenly, which would be pretty damn easy to do.

Otherwise, just randomize.

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Multiples in a few and runner ups in the other 2 that don't have multiple champs.

Seems somewhat even. I'm not opposed to doing the 'math' based divisions but saying, I don't think C's suggestion is slanted.

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I don't think it's obscenely slanted. But one of those former champs... if I had his division, I'd be dancing.

I think if fairness is the aim, like I said, there's a way to ensure that the teams are organized as they have trended over the last three seasons.

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We'll see how it plays out. I'm cool with the 3 yr avg deal.

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

and dont have a title ..i guess that is pretty wack

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2019 CABG Survivor

2016 OK Survivor Champion

be about it or be without it

RIP GOATs

vote 1: randomize

vote 2. non of the above

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

My movies: http://russellhainline.com
My movie reviews: https://letterboxd.com/RussellHFilm/
My beer TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thebeertravelguide

1) I don't have a preference. I like B because I know right now, but if we can randomize quickly cool. (As an aside, I was hoping that we'd luck into the draft next week because I have the week off, but no dice).

2) No and no. I don't think 30 dollars is going to motivate people to participate or not participate.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

1: i'm confused. there are new options now
2: C. there's a new option now also?

>Vote 2)Participation Ideas
>
>A-The Loser reward - The best non-playoff team would receive
>half of their entry fee back ($30). This would reward those
>at the bottom of the standings for continuing to fight through
>adversity.
>
>B-The best trash talker prize - The GM voted best trash talker
>gets half their entry fee back ($30). This would encourage
>participation even if your team sucks because it's based wit
>moreso than standings.
>
>C-None of the above


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Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou

>1: i'm confused. there are new options now
>2: C. there's a new option now also?

1: Yeah, this one is becoming organic. Just weigh in on which you think works best. When the smoke clears we'll ride with majority. Seems like everyone likes Frank's ideas so we might be rolling with that one.

2: We'll only consider Shawn's option if people want a change. If most people choose no change then no point in discussing $20. We might discuss a different split for the payout though.

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payouts, screw losers. give that money to the top of the league. so go with the 480/240/60 or 500/220/60.

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Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

Its 2014...there are computers in glasses and people stunt after hitting the ball far. Get over it. -Cenario

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilariou

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

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17x NBA Champions

meh

like is there an application where you can plug in the names and they'll split them into 4 groups?

And are people gonna complain about it like they do with random draft order lol?

I felt my idea was 'random' and still had transparency.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

And it can be transparent as you can all see it happen. I can do like I do with the draft and announce the time/ask for witnesses.

I'm actually leaning more towards Frank's idea but with a few tweaks (I'd keep last years division winners in the same divisions and assign everyone else by 3yr avg...would keep a lil continuity).

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random definitely doesn't guarantee fair. if we get 3 winners and a contender in a group of 4, we gonna just re-randomize? again? or play it as it lies.

either way, need to get it over with.

Or so...

I'd rather a system that has some rhyme or reason to it. Or at least looks fair. Lol

Think i'm going with what my alphabet joint

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

nothing worse than fantasy cats tryna play like we really owners and GMs...just pick your players and be quiet.

i already see it coming. y'all bout to bicker over this dumb shyt for days and then there'll be ANOTHER vote that only the MOST PRESSED among us care about and it's invariably gonna favor the MOST PRESSED dudes.

y'all need to chill, man. stop JOCKEYING for every bit of leverage. draft, work the wire and stop being pressed.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

If we are giving prizes for division and conf winners, its a very valid issue... last few years, the divisions/ conf been a bit uneven.


I mean, you're usually checked out by the race war anyway so I doubt you'd notice.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

but i know why folks want to make the change, and i just want to make sure everyone knows that there's no magic random button that's going to make it fair.

alphabetical actually looks surprisingly even (and psh, labeat has been good and TBO will keep getting better) right now...most randomized groupings will be worse.

but even if the balls bounce perfectly....someone will get a job or have a kid or work on a project or need to dote on a girlfriend and it will unbalance again.

Next year we do it again.


Again I'm all for fuck conferences and divisions

Best teams move on- he'll reduce playoff teams

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

(note, i don't actually care in terms of it affecting teams but i think it's an interesting question)

i like divisions because i can't really pay attention to 15 teams and owner's styles. it would be okay if it was a keeper league and team personalities developed over time?

but since it's not...i like knowing ab and labeat and ceej's tendencies and i'll enjoy getting a feel for 3 new owners.

That it's random. The whole play where it lays hand you're dealt thing- similar to draft order.

In most my other leagues people don't really think twice about divisions. You get what you get and you don't get upset.

Of course this only works if you switch every year whih you seem to be against.

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

money. if we weren't doing that, I wouldn't care about divisions being 'fair'.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

Again fuck conferences and divisions spread the pot out to top finishers

Race to the top

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought