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"wtf @ this andrew wiggins interview?"


  

          

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:11303084
http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/2ci5wh/espn_currently_having_the_most_cringeworthy/

that's the most awkward thing i've seen in a minute. anchor was trolling like shit. good job by wiggs not biting the bait.

kind of crazy what they're putting this kid thru.

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RE: wtf @ this andrew wiggins interview?
Aug 03rd 2014
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he handled that really well. ESPN should demote that guy
Aug 04th 2014
2
why?
Aug 05th 2014
21
      because he doesn't know how to finesse an interview...he's bad at it
Aug 05th 2014
32
           it wasn't an in-depth Sunday Conversation sit-down
Aug 05th 2014
56
He'll feel the love here in Minnesota
Aug 04th 2014
3
He'll drown in the sea of incompetence that is Taylor & Flip.
Aug 04th 2014
5
Zero shame and zero class
Aug 04th 2014
4
Andrew please say something we can replay 20 times a day...
Aug 04th 2014
6
lol @ "how do you not get frustrated?"
Aug 04th 2014
7
Wiggins handled that with class, fuck ESPN's trollbaiting
Aug 04th 2014
8
only could get away with that with a rookie. disgusting
Aug 04th 2014
9
I watched it yesterday....is that on the anchor or ESPN
Aug 04th 2014
10
Here are all the kinda cool Panini videos including a wiggins
Aug 04th 2014
11
he gave em a few and wiggins sidestepped em
Aug 04th 2014
12
      the Bron question tonally seemed almost like an attempt at some levity
Aug 05th 2014
24
absolute HORSE SHIT.
Aug 04th 2014
13
Man Lavine, Wiggy, catching lobs from Rubio is gonna be fun though
Aug 04th 2014
14
yup.
Aug 04th 2014
19
espn is embarrassing now
Aug 04th 2014
15
"espn is embarrassing now" (c) me 10 years ago nm
Aug 04th 2014
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      ^agree
Aug 04th 2014
20
Sidebar: if Lebron hasn't already, he really needs to talk to this kid.
Aug 04th 2014
17
hilarious.
Aug 04th 2014
18
what on earth is all the pearl-clutching & outrage for here?
Aug 05th 2014
22
I was expecting way worse than what I saw..
Aug 05th 2014
25
You sure typed a whole lot.
Aug 05th 2014
26
the issue ain't gonna be dead until the deal is done
Aug 05th 2014
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      That's the thing, I don't think him or his team know anything
Aug 05th 2014
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           the report that the deal is done already & just waiting till Aug 24th
Aug 05th 2014
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i think everyone here said he handled it well
Aug 05th 2014
27
LOL, he didn't really handle it well tho
Aug 05th 2014
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      lol so we getting on wiggins for asking can you repeat the question?
Aug 05th 2014
40
      stammeringly asking to repeat a question he didn't wanna answer anyway?
Aug 05th 2014
45
      i think you're really exaggerating how bad he did
Aug 05th 2014
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           yeah, u didn't see the full one if u didnt see him ask twice in a row
Aug 05th 2014
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                it was pretty clear that it was an earpiece issue
Aug 05th 2014
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                     RE: it was pretty clear that it was an earpiece issue
Aug 05th 2014
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^^^ I was thinking, What was he suppose to ask him?
Aug 05th 2014
28
the nba didn't pull his jersey it sold out
Aug 05th 2014
30
     
Aug 05th 2014
33
           http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/04/nba-says-andrew-wiggin...
Aug 05th 2014
34
                that doesn't seem odd to you?
Aug 05th 2014
35
                     does what seem odd?
Aug 05th 2014
36
                          agreed, Bron calls you, you don't call him.
Aug 05th 2014
48
base. people being outraged over everything is getting annoying
Aug 05th 2014
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      it's not that he asked tough questions, he asked the same general
Aug 05th 2014
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      because he gave vague replies that left the door open to rephrasing
Aug 05th 2014
38
           dude a bad interview is the fault of the interviewer.
Aug 05th 2014
39
           one of the dumber absolutes in a subject-line I've read in a minute
Aug 05th 2014
43
                he's right though.
Aug 05th 2014
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                     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRb_3hCa72Y
Aug 05th 2014
51
                     uhhhh, Letterman's job is to make people laugh
Aug 05th 2014
52
                     no, he isn't, this is live TV coverage of an in-progress story
Aug 05th 2014
54
           base
Aug 05th 2014
44
      RE: base. people being outraged over everything is getting annoying
Aug 05th 2014
46
trying to bait the kid
Aug 05th 2014
23
lolz
Aug 07th 2014
58
damn
Aug 07th 2014
59
https://twitter.com/Tri_Offense/status/497416236649971712
Aug 07th 2014
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      lol
Aug 07th 2014
62
Well technically, it isn't final
Aug 07th 2014
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      This whole thing is f'n strange
Aug 07th 2014
63
           it's a headline because woj weighed in.
Aug 07th 2014
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           still trying to understand how this was better than bulls offer?
Aug 07th 2014
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                RE: should be interesting to see if any team steps up with a better offe...
Aug 07th 2014
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                wiggins pose to be a superstar.
Aug 07th 2014
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                     huh? its basically one for one
Aug 07th 2014
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1. "RE: wtf @ this andrew wiggins interview?"
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2. "he handled that really well. ESPN should demote that guy"
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21. "why? "
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32. "because he doesn't know how to finesse an interview...he's bad at it"
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i said demote, not fire. dude don't need to handle high profile interviews like that. he came off truly antagonistic.

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56. "it wasn't an in-depth Sunday Conversation sit-down"
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it was a quick-hit segment with a SportsCenter anchor.

You'd prolly know better than I but pretty sure that those opportunities are gonna be luck of the draw depending on whose behind the desk in the window provided.

And really all those SportsCenter after maybe Eisen or Van Pelt were coming up are interchangeable entities to me.

All doing some variation of snarky white guy in a pale imitation of the original Patrick/Olbermann blueprint.

I didn't really see it as truly antagonistic, the most egregious error Weinstein made mighta been that opening joke about his player trading card that Wiggins didn't appear to get.

Then he asked him what it's been like in the aftermath of the draft and Wiggins starts with 'it's been crazy' (probably the truest thing he said all interview, however followed up by a long-winded bit of filler attempting to ignore the elephant in the room that we all know he's about to get asked about).

I didn't really see it as truly antagonistic though despite being undeniably awkward from that point forward.

He also tried to put the onus on that weird NBA rule, where you can be dealt on live TV and have to switch hats on draft night but if you sign a contract (a contract with details already set depending on draft position that rookies have no ability to re-negotiate) then somehow you have to spend a month of your first summer with money in professional purgatory if they wanna trade you after free agency opens.

Wiggins was just bad at articulating throughout and seemingly no one prepped him on how to hit any pre-rehearsed PR bullet-points that could have shut down the line of questioning.

>i said demote, not fire. dude don't need to handle high
>profile interviews like that. he came off truly antagonistic.
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I didn't say you said fire, I heard you on demote, just was curious as to the reasoning and you gave it to me even if I don't totally agree (I do agree he's definitely not a go-to interviewer for them, would have felt that way before this interview happened as well).

We good.

  

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3. "He'll feel the love here in Minnesota"
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Please let this deal happen.

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5. "He'll drown in the sea of incompetence that is Taylor & Flip."
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The minute he touches soil here him & his agent rightfully start planning his exit.

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4. "Zero shame and zero class "
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6. "Andrew please say something we can replay 20 times a day..."
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Here I'll get you started "I want to play for blank more than blank" Now you just fill that in.

Or here try this

"I think the owner of Cleveland is (mean adjective)" Fill that in


So pathetic, just trying to tee him up to say anything that they can roast him for

  

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7. "lol @ "how do you not get frustrated?""
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8. "Wiggins handled that with class, fuck ESPN's trollbaiting"
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9. "only could get away with that with a rookie. disgusting"
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I really was hoping wiggy had some 'both teams played hard' answers.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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10. "I watched it yesterday....is that on the anchor or ESPN"
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did he just freestyle those questions?


I mean I think there's a more graceful way to ask those questions, but I'd prefer athletes be asked tough questions than just lobbed lollipops.

Also, this was pointed out on Reddit.

Seems like a lot of these rookies got some type of sponsorship to do shit at Rookie day via Panini America. They do like sports sticker books and shit for kids.


For example, in this interview you see all the Panini logos.


Also yesterday there was a real seemingly cool dunk and horse challenege the players started taking part of on twitter--but in a lot of those there was prominent Panini Advertising.

Wiggoins team mightve just bought and sold him to Panini and ESPN for this shit.


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11. "Here are all the kinda cool Panini videos including a wiggins"
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12. "he gave em a few and wiggins sidestepped em"
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but the dude went on...at the point he asked what would you want to tell lebron and everything after was just overkill.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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24. "the Bron question tonally seemed almost like an attempt at some levity"
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since it hadn't gone fully sideways yet, while at the same time asking it because he is after all standing there in a Cavs uni and Lebron's return is now why he's good as gone.

He didn't really pick up on that context in the moment via satellite while by then the pangs of panic really started settling in.

Perhaps he purposely took the interview to intentionally tank it hopes of scaring off Flip Saunders?

If so, I take it all back.

Otherwise, this was not a great look for a guy with sick athleticism, instant-plus defender skill along with a pretty-looking jump shot and whose main critique amongst scouts/GMs/coaches is whether or not internally he has 'Dat DAWG' as Bubbachuck used to call it.

  

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13. "absolute HORSE SHIT."
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I don't think I need to go into the reasons why.

  

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14. "Man Lavine, Wiggy, catching lobs from Rubio is gonna be fun though"
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19. "yup. "
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Minnesota would actually be a great place for Wiggins IMO.

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15. "espn is embarrassing now"
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16. ""espn is embarrassing now" (c) me 10 years ago nm"
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20. "^agree"
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17. "Sidebar: if Lebron hasn't already, he really needs to talk to this kid. "
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Just reach out.

I know he doesn't have to, but it's the right thing to do.

Even if it's, "No hard feelings. But I really want Kevin Love. You'll be a great player some day...blah blah blah."

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18. "hilarious."
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22. "what on earth is all the pearl-clutching & outrage for here?"
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I mean there's a million things to shit on ESPN about but this isn't really it.

Miss me with the 'he's just a kid' bit.

He's the first-round pick in the NBA Draft, a professional whose name is currently all over the news.

If he's not polished enough speaking on-the-spot with the media yet, don't do the interview with the biggest sports-news outlet in the world.

Simple solution.

This wasn't an actual hostage video, it just looked like one.

Andrew Wiggins' lack of deftness in handling a few direct questions and/or light cornball jabbing from a man who could only dream of having his vertical leap, size, strength, youth, bank account or dick size was the primary reason for that.

The primary question in some way/shape/form, about going from first overall pick to being traded-but-waiting-due-to-paperwork-technicality, is coming or the interviewer isn't doing his job.

What else do you even talk with Andrew Wiggins about right now?

All this 'leave the kid alone, hasn't he suffered enough?!? How dare they?' faux-outrage like he's a special-needs 8th grader rather than an elite athlete whose checks are gonna clear regardless of whether its Cleveland or Minneapolis (and the chorus caping for him) come off almost a little condescending.

I'm the first to say that these kids shouldn't be required to attend even a year of college before being NBA eligible.

However if you're good enough and mature enough to decide that you are gonna do that, you do so recognizing that you now play by grown-man rules.

This kid has been considered the top pick in the draft for the last 18-20 months plus played at a major college program in the interim.

He's from Canada, not Cameroon.

His Jayhawk teammate who went third that speaks English as a third-language could have done this interview far better rather than the stammering 'I didn't understand the question' twice-in-a-row act.

Blame Cleveland for keeping him in limbo then letting him speak publicly, while Love hides in a bumper until his press conference at the Gund.

Blame the NBA for its 30-day-rule not being eligible to be waived and making the line of questioning harder than it woulda been had he already been with the TWolves.

Blame Wiggins' management team and PR people for letting him hang out there.

Blame his former NBA player pops for not stressing the public-speaking side of things enough and coaching him up.

Even if it gets through all those line of defense, to some degree you can also hand a bit of blame to Wiggins himself for looking like a deer in headlights.

But a few questions from Bram Weinstein (who only stands out to me since he used to be a regular on the 980 AM John Thompson Show back in the day) no matter how half-baked and unnatural-sounding they became as Wiggins answers grew single-syllable/stammer-level short?

That's the problem here?

No.

This is the NBA.

Grow up quickly or get outta the street so you don't get run over.

Hopefully that small stretch of discomfort will survive far longer as a life lesson.

But I'm all ears if anyone can explain the issue here & sound like something other than just dogpiling Disney, who we all know suck & control entirely too much of our sports-viewing experience.

  

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25. "I was expecting way worse than what I saw.."
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I thought the interviewer was asking pointed questions but I didn't think he was trying to be an asshole about it.. He even asked how do you not get frustrated with the current situation..



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26. "You sure typed a whole lot."
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No one is saying poor wiggins. We are saying dude did a horrible job interviewing. He beat the issue dead. Wiggins, while not super eloquent,
handled it fine.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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41. "the issue ain't gonna be dead until the deal is done "
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and even then will be an ongoing dialogue to be revisited based on Cleveland's team success or Wiggins' individual performance.

>No one is saying poor wiggins. We are saying dude did a
>horrible job interviewing.

the questions actually did vary, most of them were just (SHOCKER) related to the transaction talk of the summer during Lebron's return.

Why on earth he tried to say anything to an invitation to give a message to Lebron is beyond me.

Why take this interview in a Cav jersey saying 'when I'm in Cleveland I'm gonna play hard' when his team likely already knows he's traded?

Or say things like 'I want to go to a team that wants me' that leads to follow-ups about how he feels to be hanging in limbo, rather than just say 'whatever happens is out of my control, I'll be ready to play wherever I end up and there isn't anything else for me to say about it' if he's already too-late realized he shouldn't take the interview?

>He beat the issue dead. Wiggins,
>while not super eloquent,
>handled it fine.

he handled it about as fine as Kobe Bryant did his initial box interrogation in Colorado summer of '03.

  

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42. "That's the thing, I don't think him or his team know anything"
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Especially when the Cavs front office kept saying "we're not trading Andrew"

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47. "the report that the deal is done already & just waiting till Aug 24th"
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(not coincidentally the first day he is eligible to be traded) had already been everywhere before the weekend began, let's not act brand-new or pretend that if the media has already run with that story we haven't done our own digging even if nobody with the Cavs or at LMRM haven't called me (which you'd also take as a bad sign).

I say this while fully acknowledging Andrew Wiggins has already accomplished things I can only dream doing and that it gets no dumber and less accomplished then me in the summer of my 19th year following a freshman college campaign as an aspiring Husky track athlete, who by July was facing potential academic ineligibility for fall x-country, catching an open-container moving violation case in Jersey during a one-weekend visit to the shore who one week later is out walking Boston streets smoking counter-container loosies and palming brown-bag beer bought from the Arab store then strolling past Solomon Outdoor Track like I was wearing an invisibility cloak.

Yet even in that, the height of my adolescent arrogance and self-destructive smart-dumb bullshit, the only 'team' I would need to consult upon being asked "will you volunteer to be made uncomfortable on live television for free and devoid of any traceable PR upside?" was the voice in my head saying 'Fuck' & 'That' before calling my agent and telling him to go earn that commission he just got from me for a form-letter slotted contract I just signed.

Because if my agent hesitates to not handle that shit quickly and quietly, WTF am I paying him to do?

My old man is good with figures and reading fine print while at a much more reasonable rate.

The problems with this interview have little to do with the guy asking questions, he's the one person involved who even if he ain't Dick Schaap is at least coming closest to doing what's in his job description that day.

Bron was somewhere watching that interview fist-bumping Mav & Rich like 'told y'all, that's why he got left out the letter, ain't nobody got time for that'.

When you're 30 and trying to win a championship in damn Cleveland, you don't delay in doing what you gotta do.

  

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27. "i think everyone here said he handled it well"
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the point is the interviewer kept basically rephrasing the same idea when it's clearly not something wiggins is in a position to talk about at length. trying to get a newsworthy quote about the hot topic once or twice is one thing, but to keep going at it is poor show.

>What else do you even talk with Andrew Wiggins about right
>now?

he's the #1 draft pick and was just in the summer league. there's plenty to talk about after he initially shoots down your obvious bait.

  

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37. "LOL, he didn't really handle it well tho"
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he gave vague replies leaving open replies for rephrasing and then he said 'can you repeat the question?' twice.

>the point is the interviewer kept basically rephrasing the
>same idea when it's clearly not something wiggins is in a
>position to talk about at length. trying to get a newsworthy
>quote about the hot topic once or twice is one thing, but to
>keep going at it is poor show.
>
>>What else do you even talk with Andrew Wiggins about right
>>now?
>
>he's the #1 draft pick and was just in the summer league.
>there's plenty to talk about after he initially shoots down
>your obvious bait.

man nobody wants to hear about his summer league debut when he's being traded to help turn Cleveland into a title favorite.

If you didn't want to address that or hear the question, you 'thanks but no thanks' to the interview or flat-out tell dude when he keeps going there that you won't be addressing it rather than sitting there like a deer in headlights with a Cav jersey on saying '.....uh, one more time' please when you want him to stop asking you questions.

  

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40. "lol so we getting on wiggins for asking can you repeat the question?"
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lol wow.

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45. "stammeringly asking to repeat a question he didn't wanna answer anyway?"
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then after the reporter does so, taking a long pause and sheepishly saying '.......one....more...time, please?'.

On what planet is requesting a two-encore interrogation of a topic you weren't gonna touch in the first place considered good form?

  

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49. "i think you're really exaggerating how bad he did"
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am i missing a longer interview that's not in the link? cause i didn't hear him ask for a repeat of any question in the 3 minute video and i just rewatched it. there was clearly a time delay and an issue with his earpiece, which caused most of the awkwardness. other than that, he's a rookie who's in a weird position and he didn't say anything dumb or potentially harmful to either team. that's all you can ask for, especially when a jackass is just cleverly rephrasing the same question. wiggins wasn't mr. enthusiasm, and he droned a bit and had too many uhhhs (don't we all?), but that's not weird for someone relatively new to TV interviews.

>man nobody wants to hear about his summer league debut when
>he's being traded to help turn Cleveland into a title
>favorite.

right, but after you ask about the trade the first couple times and you get nothing, move on. that's interviewing 101 (provided it's not a public figure or something really important that you need to hammer the interviewee on). this was a desperate attempt at getting a quote, not interviewing.

  

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53. "yeah, u didn't see the full one if u didnt see him ask twice in a row"
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to repeat what was sounding like the wrap-up question on the whole segment.

When he asks for the question for what would have been a third time, Weinstein gives him a bailout softball before wrapping: http://deadspin.com/sportscenter-interview-with-andrew-wiggins-gets-awkward-1615346147

He also was actually more criticizing the NBA procedures with stating earlier that the situation has left his first pro summer in limbo and then asked him how he has been able to stay focused rather than frustrated.

None of that is hardball stuff and at know point despite the unrelenting awkwardness did I feel he was being unfair or badgering in his questions to the kid.

>am i missing a longer interview that's not in the link? cause
>i didn't hear him ask for a repeat of any question in the 3
>minute video and i just rewatched it. there was clearly a time
>delay and an issue with his earpiece, which caused most of the
>awkwardness. other than that, he's a rookie who's in a weird
>position and he didn't say anything dumb or potentially
>harmful to either team. that's all you can ask for, especially
>when a jackass is just cleverly rephrasing the same question.
>wiggins wasn't mr. enthusiasm, and he droned a bit and had too
>many uhhhs (don't we all?), but that's not weird for someone
>relatively new to TV interviews.
>
>>man nobody wants to hear about his summer league debut when
>>he's being traded to help turn Cleveland into a title
>>favorite.
>
>right, but after you ask about the trade the first couple
>times and you get nothing, move on. that's interviewing 101
>(provided it's not a public figure or something really
>important that you need to hammer the interviewee on). this
>was a desperate attempt at getting a quote, not interviewing.
>
there's a set amount of time you have scheduled for the segment and since even his non-answers left the gate open for further prodding there was really nothing close to a violation of any general rules of interviewing here.

In fact they weren't even rephrases of the same question they were altogether different questions.

Asking about his current status with the Cavs is not the same as asking what this month has been like as a new pro with this circus swirling around him.

Asking whether the NBA rule on delaying the process a month makes general sense and serves him is a different question as both.

Asking him what he thought about Lebron's July 11th announcement is not the same to asking if he had talked to Lebron or following up with if he did what would he say are two more.

Those are four or five separate topics at least tangentially related to the central issue of interest that we all knew would be asked about when the interview got set up.

The rest were just follow-ups using his own words to see if you get an expanded answer of any substance, then the end was almost like 'what, you're breaking up...sorry....bad connection' aborting of a phone call you really don't want to be on any longer.

This isn't an episode of Inside Stuff, this is live on SportsCenter talking to one of their anchors while he is one of the two biggest dominoes left to drop in what has been the sporting world's lead story of 2014 (Lebron's 'Coming Home' chess move).

ESPN is gonna get their pound of flesh on any story somehow/someway with or without a quote from Wiggins.

So it's up to the athlete to pick/choose when you are actually required/advised to give them one, how you can use their platform to your own benefit and/or when you are best to just politely decline a request through an intermediary if you don't have anything to say or aren't skilled yet in how to say it.

We're talking about a corporate sports-media monolith so steadfastly smelling its own shit while disregarding their competition's contributions that it had Chris Broussard on live saying with a straight-face how he can now confirm via his sources that Lebron is in fact going to Cleveland.

Not only was this days after Chris Sheridan had already put his professional career/rep on the line stating he would but after Sports Illustrated had already posted the Lee Jenkins story from the mouth of Lebron James via press release.

  

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55. "it was pretty clear that it was an earpiece issue"
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he was playing with it before and then played with it again when asking him to repeat the question.

>None of that is hardball stuff and at know point despite the
>unrelenting awkwardness did I feel he was being unfair or
>badgering in his questions to the kid.

okay, well only a couple people agree with you. and i never called it hardball stuff (cause it's sports), but it was clear from the beginning he wasn't gonna get the answers he wanted.

>there's a set amount of time you have scheduled for the
>segment and since even his non-answers left the gate open for
>further prodding there was really nothing close to a violation
>of any general rules of interviewing here.

non-answers=move on. if non-answers meant "keep rephrasing it" then no sports interview would ever end.

>In fact they weren't even rephrases of the same question they
>were altogether different questions.

nah, they were clever and subtle rephrases of the same idea: "you're in a weird limbo, give us a quote." they were just disguised as different topics.

i mean, the fuck kinda question is "is there anything you'd like to say to Lebron so you can stay on the team?" he's asking him to beg for his job on national TV to a guy who doesn't control that. that's completely indefensible, and there's no way wiggins knew that was gonna be asked.

and "do you think cleveland wants you?" is the worst bait.

>This isn't an episode of Inside Stuff, this is live on
>SportsCenter talking to one of their anchors

okay, so the interviewer shouldn't have wasted everyone's time on national TV when he wasn't getting the answers.

>
>ESPN is gonna get their pound of flesh on any story
>somehow/someway with or without a quote from Wiggins.

that's fine, we can still criticize the interviewer's technique.

>
>So it's up to the athlete to pick/choose when you are actually
>required/advised to give them one,

that's the team/his agent or PR person's job, as you've stated. and i doubt any of them knew the interview would play out like that or they wouldn't have okayed it.

  

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57. "RE: it was pretty clear that it was an earpiece issue"
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>he was playing with it before and then played with it again
>when asking him to repeat the question.
>
he's nodding like he's processing the words both times if you look, he just didn't know where to go with an answer once it was his turn.

>>None of that is hardball stuff and at know point despite the
>>unrelenting awkwardness did I feel he was being unfair or
>>badgering in his questions to the kid.
>
>okay, well only a couple people agree with you. and i never
>called it hardball stuff (cause it's sports), but it was clear
>from the beginning he wasn't gonna get the answers he wanted.
>
it was clear from before the beginning that you aren't gonna get the questions you wanted, so either skip doing the interview or have a better gameplan in response that might could have put the kabosh on anything related to the trade topic a lot more efficiently.

>>there's a set amount of time you have scheduled for the
>>segment and since even his non-answers left the gate open
>for
>>further prodding there was really nothing close to a
>violation
>>of any general rules of interviewing here.
>
>non-answers=move on. if non-answers meant "keep rephrasing it"
>then no sports interview would ever end.
>
they were different questions or follow-ups on his own words, the only time he was flat out repeating himself was upon request.

>>In fact they weren't even rephrases of the same question
>they
>>were altogether different questions.
>
>nah, they were clever and subtle rephrases of the same idea:
>"you're in a weird limbo, give us a quote." they were just
>disguised as different topics.
>
asking if he spoke with Lebron and what he thinks of the NBA mandatory-month rule are different questions even if they spring from the same tree.

That tree is all we really care about at the moment with no real knowledge of who the kid is as a person, nothing interesting being uttered by him to divert from them and no tape of him playing in an NBA game yet.

>i mean, the fuck kinda question is "is there anything you'd
>like to say to Lebron so you can stay on the team?" he's
>asking him to beg for his job on national TV to a guy who
>doesn't control that. that's completely indefensible, and
>there's no way wiggins knew that was gonna be asked.
>
>and "do you think cleveland wants you?" is the worst bait.
>
bait that his 'I want you to want me' and 'I think so.....I hope so' prior replies engendered.

In him taking this interview and going for banal politeness (he is Canadian, so I guess that's at least on some level cultural) he unintentionally passed the reporter the tools for the pounding he took.

>>This isn't an episode of Inside Stuff, this is live on
>>SportsCenter talking to one of their anchors
>
>okay, so the interviewer shouldn't have wasted everyone's time
>on national TV when he wasn't getting the answers.
>
you don't cut out in the middle of a pre-promoted segment, he asked other questions, regardless once AW started flailing no matter the question he was gonna be dying on a vine until they ran out of time.
>>
>>ESPN is gonna get their pound of flesh on any story
>>somehow/someway with or without a quote from Wiggins.
>
>that's fine, we can still criticize the interviewer's
>technique.
>
sure, i didn't think it was David Frost either, mainly just find the groupthink condemning tone and some of the pseudo-journalist expert outcries on twitter or sports blogs in addition to in here to be missing the point.

They're feeding the beast they're railing against and the blame for this debacle belongs in several other camps (including the player's) before it falls at the feet of the reporter or SportsCenter producers.
>>
>>So it's up to the athlete to pick/choose when you are
>actually
>>required/advised to give them one,
>
>that's the team/his agent or PR person's job, as you've
>stated. and i doubt any of them knew the interview would play
>out like that or they wouldn't have okayed it.
>
if they thought he was gonna be not asked those types of questions, they are truly terrible at their job and he should fire them ASAP.

  

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28. "^^^ I was thinking, What was he suppose to ask him?"
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while KLove is ducking the media

you could have basically cut and paste that interview for him

if he ever shows his face

the NBA just pulled Wiggins' jerseys

for all those that had a problem with it

what would you have asked him in a 3 minute interview?

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30. "the nba didn't pull his jersey it sold out"
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The first few questions were fine. He asked the same variation over and over again.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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33. ""
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http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2014/08/05/0805-sports-report-lead-art-g3ntl2o1-1.html

"the jersey had just been discontinued by the NBA Store."

"the jersey of the top pick in this year’s draft was taken off shelves and online browsers was the latest sign that a trade involving Wiggins likely is imminent."

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34. "http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/04/nba-says-andrew-wiggin..."
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http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/04/nba-says-andrew-wiggins-jerseys-werent-discontinued-merely-sold-out/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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35. "that doesn't seem odd to you?"
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I also find it strange that he hasn't even talked to Bron yet

I'd assume he's spoken with most of the other Cavs team mates

if I was him

I'd make that priority #1

let Bron know I want to play in CLE

and win chips

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36. "does what seem odd?"
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i don't think he should reach out to bron either. He already said he'll play for whoever wants him. Why beg Bron to stay in cle? Especially if he's gonna be as great as he is supposed to be.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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48. "agreed, Bron calls you, you don't call him."
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but again, Bron leaving you out the letter and not calling you is probably not an accident so go relax somewhere out of sight while enjoying the spoils of that first check and/or putting in gym work.

You weren't the first overall pick in the NBA or the lynchpin in a deal to land an All-NBA power-forward due to your silver-tongued savoir-faire or strong fashion sense.

  

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29. "base. people being outraged over everything is getting annoying"
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interview was def. awkward , mainly because of wiggins reaction to the questions, but i wasn't offended by the line of questioning
seeing ppl in comment sections and on here saying the interview was disgusting and a disgrace like he peppered him about a miscarriaged child or something
there's a freaking 350+ reply thread about the topic on this board....
people bitch when they throw softballs and bitch when they ask tough questions (that everyone is talking about anyway)

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31. "it's not that he asked tough questions, he asked the same general"
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One over and over. The fact that the interview was awkward and we the audience gained nothing shows that it was a bad one.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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38. "because he gave vague replies that left the door open to rephrasing"
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the question using his own words.

He really could have deaded the whole line of questions in one reply if he knew how to handle himself in this situations.

And since it's now clear that he isn't yet polished enough to do so, take the lead of all the other veteran NBA principles involved in the projected trade and skip showing up on ESPN in the jersey of the team that's waiting two weeks to trade you.

>One over and over. The fact that the interview was awkward
>and we the audience gained nothing shows that it was a bad
>one.

actually, y'all being outraged is the only thing letting people recognize the interview actually occurred and likely multiplied the hits the interview received online tenfold.

So........no.

  

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39. "dude a bad interview is the fault of the interviewer."
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If its awkward, its on the interviewer. The questions were repetitive and it was clear that wiggy wasn't going to give anything beyond a standard PR correct answer.

The interviewer was trolling period.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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43. "one of the dumber absolutes in a subject-line I've read in a minute"
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but okay, Ken Griffey.

  

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50. "he's right though."
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interviewers have to make it work with all types of people and they have to be able to call an audible if it's not going as planned.

  

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51. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRb_3hCa72Y"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRb_3hCa72Y

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52. "uhhhh, Letterman's job is to make people laugh"
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so he's a sarcastic asshole to difficult guests or people who he dislikes because it gets laughs.

also, joaquin was playing a character designed to be difficult no matter what. completely different.

  

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54. "no, he isn't, this is live TV coverage of an in-progress story"
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and you have a limited time with one of the main subjects involved who mistakenly agreed to do it.

He 'audibled' several different angles & separate questions, Wiggins just awkwardly answered the ones he should have declined and failed to recognize any of the life rafts tossed his way once he was sinking.

He's obviously not adept in this area yet, which begs the question of who could have thought this would be a good idea in the first place from a risk/reward standpoint.

But the reporter didn't violate any interviewing ethics by taking the tact that he did, nor was the interview a failure on his part just because his interplay was awkward.

The responses to even the softballs thrown in the mix were painful due to either cut-outs in communication or a lack of ability to read context clues or communicate clearly in a forum demanding some level of quick-on-your-feet skill.

So he could have lobbed up more softies to listen to him labor through in pained fashion as if he were a criminal awaiting trial rather than just a kid happy to be playing basketball currently in the midst of a bizarre circumstance.

But there was no saving it as a net-positive or anything but 'boring' at best if you go that route, so instead he kept plugging away with relevant questions until it became 'painfully but compellingly awkward' instead.

As a result of that choice the questions folks actually cared about got asked, the interview ends up being memorable, blogs had their headline, the online unquenchable need for moral outrage found the meal to satiate themselves on for a minute, talk-radio blatherers re-run the audio all week in between their 'take' on how it was handled, the interview gets viewed by millions more than just the people in front of their TV tuned to SportsCenter when it aired and this post goes platinum.

Jim Gray has made a pretty good career for himself by being far more of an asshole with athletes while addressing much more controversial subjects.


  

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44. "base"
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>actually, y'all being outraged is the only thing letting
>people recognize the interview actually occurred and likely
>multiplied the hits the interview received online tenfold.
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>So........no.


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46. "RE: base. people being outraged over everything is getting annoying"
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>people bitch when they throw softballs and bitch when they ask
>tough questions (that everyone is talking about anyway)

yeah, the sports blogs seem to be going especially hard on the line of questioning since the weekend but conversely would accuse them of being a lapdog due to their NBA contract if he had just asked him how he's been feeling in summer league and how it feels to now be in the pros.

If he's giving you the chance to ask him by agreeing to an interview with the biggest sports media company in the globe on on live TV, who wouldn't ask Andrew Wiggins answer yes or no to whether or not he's had contact with Lebron?

Why wouldn't someone at least ask to explain his mindset faced with the unique position of going from savior to sacrificial lamb before he played a single game in the uniform that he for some reason is on live TV wearing?

The mock outrage by bloggists and message-boarders giving armchairs critiques of media protocol without any actual reporting/broadcasting background is ironically almost as annoying as media members telling athletes/coaches how to do their jobs better when they never played the sport.

  

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23. "trying to bait the kid"
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58. "lolz"
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https://twitter.com/TMcCormickESPN/status/497407215666757632

@TMcCormickESPN
Just Spoke to Andrew Wiggins at NBA Rookie Transition Program - Said Congrats on trade to T-Wolves - He said I didn't know, is it final? Wow
10:41 AM - 7 Aug 2014

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59. "damn"
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60. "https://twitter.com/Tri_Offense/status/497416236649971712"
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https://twitter.com/Tri_Offense/status/497416236649971712

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62. "lol"
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61. "Well technically, it isn't final"
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But he obviously knew he was in trade talks.

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63. "This whole thing is f'n strange"
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I don't get why it's a headline today

feels like these dudes are falling over themselves to be, FIRST!

we're reporting handshakes? ftr, the speculation was funner

btw, this trade blows

MIN is basically trading Love for Wiggins straight up

AB hasn't proven he's even an NBA player yet

and who knows what that draft pick turns out to be

should be interesting to see if any team steps up with a better offer

between now and the 23rd

as far as Wiggins

I felt bad for him

but he can only play dumb for so long

I'm not one for players using cliches

but he'd be better off sticking to that in interviews

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64. "it's a headline because woj weighed in."
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which essentially means you can put it down in ink.

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65. "still trying to understand how this was better than bulls offer?"
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taj, jimmy butler and mcDermott is a way better package than this

  

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66. "RE: should be interesting to see if any team steps up with a better offe..."
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between now and the 23rd

maybe this 'handshake' deal leaked with the intention of getting a better deal

?

if the CHI and some variation of the GS deals are still on the table

yeah, hard to argue those aren't better

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67. "wiggins pose to be a superstar."
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It would be s uprising If any of thOz bulls made one all star game appearance.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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68. "huh? its basically one for one"
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Can you seriously sit there and type that Kevin Love=unproven draft talent?

  

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