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Warren Coolidge
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"Told y'all bout Dee Gordon...."


  

          

http://www.dodgersnation.com/video-dee-gordon-scores-on-a-triple-and-error-vs-rockies/2014/06/16


36 SBs in 35 games...6 triples....fielding at .981 at 2B...

and hitting a respectable .274...

told y'all last year that they needed to give Gordon a permanent shot....

  

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probably the most improved player in the league
Jun 17th 2014
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You also told us about Matt Kemp's defense...
Jun 17th 2014
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lol...yep...and here's the catch I was referring to...
Jun 17th 2014
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      We've disagreed on this for a while and will continue to do so
Jun 17th 2014
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           no doubt he's played poorly this year...
Jun 17th 2014
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                The numbers completely disagree
Jun 17th 2014
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Props to him. He put on weight, worked on his glove at 2b
Jun 17th 2014
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Hope it runs in the family
Jun 17th 2014
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killer avi. Lol
Jun 17th 2014
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will_5198
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1. "probably the most improved player in the league"
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the last two years he looked like a wiffle ball player with a bad eye...good for him though; he's fun to watch on the bases.

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Call It Anything
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Tue Jun-17-14 01:17 AM

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2. "You also told us about Matt Kemp's defense..."
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2201267&mesg_id=2201267

  

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Warren Coolidge
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Tue Jun-17-14 01:52 AM

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3. "lol...yep...and here's the catch I was referring to..."
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/big-league-stew/matt-kemp-makes-game-saving-catch-return-injury-155235962.html

that catch ended the game in his first game back from injury last year..

and the people who at that time were acting like he was the worst center fielder in the history of baseball...all while dismissing plays like the one above..

or this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5-TXeIThdM

or this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpTqKwfrbyg

or his 2012 award for the Wilson Defensive Player of the year
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121105&content_id=40177464&vkey=news_la&c_id=la


Matt wasn't a perfect Center fielder..but he was a hell of a lot better than those who were exaggerating his shortcomings at the position..

he's a career .985 fielder in Center Field..... I mean...that fielding percentage never warranted the criticism he got ..

and I'm sure he'll be a solid Left Fielder if he stays at that position...he got of to a bad start this year for coming back from injury and questions about whether or not he was being shopped....and fortunately for the Dodgers...a guy like Etheir provides a solid defensive option in CF...

  

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Call It Anything
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Tue Jun-17-14 10:30 AM

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5. "We've disagreed on this for a while and will continue to do so"
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https://twitter.com/FieldingBible/status/478642488614588416

John Dewan ‏@FieldingBible

Stat of the Day: Matt Kemp has been the worst fielder in the league at two positions, costing LA an NL-worst 12 runs in CF and 5 in LF.

1:57 PM - 16 Jun 2014

  

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Warren Coolidge
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8. "no doubt he's played poorly this year..."
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but 2 years ago when he was the Wilson Defensively player of the year...it was just not accurate to classify him as a bad centerfielder then...

the same type of data analysis that is saying he's been the worst this season..that same type of data analysis earned him the Wilson defensively player of the year 2 years ago....

  

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Call It Anything
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9. "The numbers completely disagree"
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Tue Jun-17-14 08:29 PM by Call It Anything

  

          

>but 2 years ago when he was the Wilson Defensively player of
>the year...it was just not accurate to classify him as a bad
>centerfielder then...
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>the same type of data analysis that is saying he's been the
>worst this season..that same type of data analysis earned him
>the Wilson defensively player of the year 2 years ago....

Four relatively popular advanced metrics are all in agreement that in 2012 his defense in CF was bad:

UZR -9.0
Defensive WAR (Based on Total Zone) -1.1
Dewan +/- -32
Fielding Runs Above Average -7.0

I have no idea how Matt Kemp would have been given an award based on his defense based on objective methodology.

At his best around 2008-2009, he could battle the position to a draw. And until 2012 he probably hit well enough to keep himself out there. Now he's bordering on a really expensive platoon LF.

  

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LA2Philly
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Tue Jun-17-14 03:02 AM

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4. "Props to him. He put on weight, worked on his glove at 2b "
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He's been tremendous.

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6. "Hope it runs in the family"
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7. "killer avi. Lol"
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