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"Los Angeles Lakers Offseason Post"


          

They need to quit dicking around and hire a coach. I still think Byron is the obvious choice. Hopefully Mitch doesn't fuck the dog with this and come out his ass with some Dumbleavy-type shit.

As far as the draft goes, obviously the big 3 of Embiid, Wiggins and Parker will be gone when pick at 7 and most likely Exum as well. I'm hoping for Vonleh, Randle or Gordon, although there are rumors that the Sixers are interested in Vonleh at 3. I'm not sold on Marcus Smart.

As far as free agency goes, skipping past wild speculation about bigger names, I wouldn't seeing us make a run at a guy like Bledsoe. Maybe bring Ariza back for cheap.

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I'm glad we didn't hire Fish
Jun 09th 2014
1
They wanted an experienced coach, I don't think Fish was ever a serious....
Jun 09th 2014
2
      i like mark jackson...
Jun 11th 2014
10
I think you and everybody else hankering for a coach needs to be
Jun 09th 2014
3
Lol I know you're not falling for that 'wait to see who Lebron wants' bs
Jun 09th 2014
4
      No, that's actually not why.
Jun 09th 2014
5
We're in a nice spot right now...
Jun 09th 2014
6
Hire Byron Scott, draft Julius Randle
Jun 10th 2014
7
^^^ only took 6.5 weeks
Jul 25th 2014
260
my first choice would
Jun 10th 2014
8
per Chris Broussard...B. Scott had his 2nd interview today
Jun 10th 2014
9
like it or not, its time to start over...
Jun 11th 2014
11
lol...we have one other player besides Kobe
Jun 11th 2014
13
I feel you on Mitch, a lot of the stuff people blame on Jim Buss is...
Jun 11th 2014
38
2 weeks to the draft and NO COACH!!!
Jun 11th 2014
12
swung and miss? were they even after fish/kerr?
Jun 11th 2014
15
no need to rush...
Jun 11th 2014
16
Swung and miss may have been the wrong words to use I guess
Jun 11th 2014
17
      Please, show us where the Lakers were ";wooing" Kerr and Fish.
Jun 11th 2014
18
           Please show me where I said the Lakers were "wooing" Kerr and Fish.
Jun 11th 2014
26
                my sentiment, is that the 2 HC candidates being wooed CHOSE
Jun 11th 2014
30
                     RE: Stop it. You know good and well. Stop lying to yourself.
Jun 11th 2014
32
                          Stop it. You know good and well. Stop lying to yourself.
Jun 11th 2014
33
                               RE: 2 HC candidates being wooed
Jun 11th 2014
34
                                    Stop being obtuse.
Jun 11th 2014
40
                                         CT, don't even waste your time
Jun 11th 2014
44
                                              All good points.
Jun 11th 2014
49
Thought it was pretty known they were a) in no rush and b)
Jun 11th 2014
19
      seems like a no-brainer
Jun 11th 2014
24
           It's not weird, it's widely reported and transparent.
Jun 11th 2014
27
                post 26
Jun 11th 2014
28
                     I mean, you could just post something accurate and factual.
Jun 11th 2014
31
                          6 weeks after ' resigned and 2 weeks before the draft the LAL
Jun 11th 2014
39
                               You wouldn't find it strange if you actually read actual reporting
Jun 11th 2014
41
                                    Lakers Nation Debate: Lakers Taking Too Long With Coaching Search?
Jun 11th 2014
47
                                         I'm not talking to them. I'm talking to you about your factually false
Jun 11th 2014
48
who we drafting?
Jun 11th 2014
14
Gordon or Randall.
Jun 11th 2014
20
Looks like it. Smart is moving up with his workouts
Jun 11th 2014
29
I can live with either of those..
Jun 11th 2014
36
we'll have our choice of one of these 5 guys
Jun 11th 2014
21
      Exum will NOT be there at 7.
Jun 11th 2014
22
      I'll be shocked if we draft a point guard at all.
Jun 11th 2014
23
           I'm not a fan of Gordon
Jun 11th 2014
25
           if Vonleh is there i'm partying
Jun 11th 2014
35
           Noah won't be there.
Jun 11th 2014
42
           Gordon's explosiveness..quickness and defense
Jun 11th 2014
45
           Randle's going to need foot surgery
Jun 12th 2014
54
           I wouldn't be suprised at all....
Jun 11th 2014
43
                i would rather have LaVine than Randle or Smart
Jun 11th 2014
46
                     Zach has potential...
Jun 11th 2014
50
                     IMO it would be better to trade down for him if they went that route
Jun 11th 2014
51
                     No way I take him over Smart
Jun 11th 2014
52
      I hope we draft size.
Jun 11th 2014
37
           I hope we draft a guy that can defend
Jun 11th 2014
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                RE: I hope we draft a guy that can defend
Jun 12th 2014
55
rumor mill: the #7 and Nash for MCW and Young Thad?
Jun 20th 2014
56
I doubt that goes down but I'd take it.
Jun 20th 2014
57
rumor mill: #7 in 3-way trade to acquire Klay...
Jun 22nd 2014
58
two mad jackers in the backcourt..i say go for it
Jun 22nd 2014
59
      Kobe can run point
Jun 22nd 2014
60
           he can't check a point
Jun 26th 2014
73
So...ok...looks like we trying to clear space to sign bouf of em
Jun 25th 2014
61
Man, do the C's take Nash and the #7
Jun 25th 2014
63
They'll draft the best player available regardless...
Jun 25th 2014
65
damn I thought we'd at least have a coach by the draft
Jun 25th 2014
62
post #12
Jun 25th 2014
68
cant wait for the draft
Jun 25th 2014
64
Its looking like we'll end up with either Randle, Gordon or Smart, most....
Jun 25th 2014
66
outside of the obvious big names what free agents should we look at?
Jun 25th 2014
67
Jun 25th 2014
69
I like Randell as college player. But I'd take Smart of him. Maybe
Jun 26th 2014
70
I'd also put both ahead of Randle...
Jun 26th 2014
71
I love Smart's defensive pedigree and strength
Jun 26th 2014
72
lol... seeing Exum #7 on Bilas best available...
Jun 26th 2014
74
wow...Vonleh is on the board for us...
Jun 26th 2014
75
if we take Randle over Vonleh..they must love Randle's motor
Jun 26th 2014
76
Motor and hard-nosed attitude
Jun 26th 2014
78
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh damn.
Jun 26th 2014
77
Broussard: Lakers dream is Melo + Bron or Melo + Bosh
Jun 26th 2014
79
good fucking luck.
Jun 26th 2014
80
So I'm hearing we got Jordan Clarkson...
Jun 26th 2014
81
RE: So I'm hearing we got Jordan Clarkson...
Jun 26th 2014
RE: So I'm hearing we got Jordan Clarkson...
Jun 26th 2014
82
watching that film didn't make me optimistic at all
Jun 27th 2014
84
Javaris Crittenton 2.0
Jun 27th 2014
94
Randle's post-draft press conference...
Jun 27th 2014
83
he's got 20/10 written all over him
Jun 27th 2014
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      the 10 i think is no problem, the 20 i'm not so sure, especially right a...
Jun 27th 2014
90
           he's a good enough shooter to expand his game to the high post
Jun 27th 2014
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i like what i'm seeing...
Jun 27th 2014
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i wasn't high on Randle going into the draft
Jun 27th 2014
87
considering his size & skill set...
Jun 27th 2014
88
I was high on dude until I saw his wingspan
Jun 27th 2014
89
his wingspan is about the same as Kevin Love's
Jun 27th 2014
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      Which is why Love averages 0.5 blks per for his career same w/ Z-Bo
Jun 27th 2014
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           Z-Bo's arms are actually pretty long
Jun 30th 2014
96
           Uh right about Love. Wrong about Z-Bo. Z-Bo is effective mainly
Jun 30th 2014
99
So Mello decision should come 2nd week in July...(swipe)
Jun 27th 2014
95
I still think they're playing this "wait on hiring a coach" thing...
Jun 30th 2014
97
I am curious as to what the real motivation is behind it...
Jun 30th 2014
98
Letting someone who hasn't even committed to your organization call...
Jun 30th 2014
101
      don't think it's calling shots...more like giving him the impression
Jun 30th 2014
102
           Lebron's not coming to the Lakers, that's a pipe dream, he has a better....
Jun 30th 2014
103
they do have stability and a clear direction
Jun 30th 2014
100
I'm seeing that Mitch is looking to get another interview with
Jun 30th 2014
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I have a feeling we're about to get skunked
Jul 01st 2014
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lol I'll pass on bringing the old band back together
Jul 01st 2014
106
Welp .... that's likely to be the best we get.
Jul 01st 2014
108
this
Jul 01st 2014
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      I'm ok with it if we do it for two year deals.
Jul 01st 2014
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      RE: this
Jul 01st 2014
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           if pau does that he's an idiot
Jul 01st 2014
114
           you could get Trevor....Pau....and Isiah Thomas
Jul 01st 2014
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                I'm cool on "Swaggy P", I can't believe people want that dude back
Jul 02nd 2014
119
                     he played well last season..
Jul 02nd 2014
120
                          he shot 43%(which was actually close to a career high for him) and...
Jul 02nd 2014
121
Why haven't the Lakers gotten a coach yet? lol.
Jul 01st 2014
107
The coaching situation has been covered ad nauseam around here.
Jul 01st 2014
109
      RE: The coaching situation has been covered ad nauseam around here.
Jul 01st 2014
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           last year's team was blue-collar and scrappy
Jul 02nd 2014
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                RE: last year's team was blue-collar and scrappy
Jul 03rd 2014
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What do we think about these FAs?
Jul 01st 2014
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RE: What do we think about these FAs?
Jul 02nd 2014
118
Jodie Gone (Woj Bomb)
Jul 01st 2014
117
looks like Hollins to the Nets is a done deal and we STILL don't have a....
Jul 02nd 2014
122
damn, that was who i wanted
Jul 02nd 2014
123
Goddamn it...we took too fucking long
Jul 02nd 2014
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we obviously didn't want hollins
Jul 02nd 2014
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      well i guess we don't want anybody
Jul 02nd 2014
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      Basically
Jul 02nd 2014
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      RE: Basically
Jul 02nd 2014
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      they've been bad with their hires for awhile(obviously other than Phil)
Jul 02nd 2014
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      I mean if there are people who wanted Hollins over B.Scott
Jul 02nd 2014
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      so now Mitch gets to play hardball with Byron's agent since he's the...
Jul 02nd 2014
130
smh. And not because of Hollins.
Jul 02nd 2014
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Now we bout to settle for a coach that most Laker fans wouldn't want
Jul 02nd 2014
129
let. kobe. coach.
Jul 02nd 2014
134
La La on LA (swipe)
Jul 03rd 2014
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LOL
Jul 03rd 2014
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Am I the only one thinking Bosh is a better fit for the Lakers
Jul 03rd 2014
138
U Laker fans...
Jul 03rd 2014
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Jul 03rd 2014
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Jul 03rd 2014
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      This response reads like you didn't read past the header.
Jul 03rd 2014
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      RE: This response reads like you didn't read past the header.
Jul 03rd 2014
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Jul 03rd 2014
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           we are optimistic because
Jul 03rd 2014
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      Bulls fans should look at history as being in a museum...
Jul 03rd 2014
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      your history is a lot different, though
Jul 03rd 2014
145
not all Laker fans are optimisitc....
Jul 03rd 2014
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RE: not all Laker fans are optimisitc....
Jul 03rd 2014
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We've had like 4 losing seasons in the last 40 yrs, we've won 10 titles....
Jul 03rd 2014
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RE: We've had like 4 losing seasons in the last 40 yrs, we've won 10 tit...
Jul 03rd 2014
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there's no reason to not be optimistic.
Jul 03rd 2014
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Cheese Eyes made $30 mill his final season. GTFOH.
Jul 03rd 2014
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on a contender that won the championship
Jul 03rd 2014
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because the Lakers win all the damn time
Jul 03rd 2014
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so supposedly we offered Carmello a max deal..
Jul 03rd 2014
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so this is what its resorted to?
Jul 03rd 2014
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If Melo signs here...
Jul 03rd 2014
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you forgot about Nash
Jul 03rd 2014
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I did, but I'm assuming they'd have to stretch him. Still thats 3 more.
Jul 03rd 2014
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what I'm hearing they offered him the Maxx..
Jul 03rd 2014
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      I just wonder who though
Jul 03rd 2014
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           they'll let Nash go just to save the 3 million
Jul 03rd 2014
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Melo pulling off from the meeting...
Jul 03rd 2014
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FWIW.... Bill Simmons says Lakers made "major" impact on
Jul 05th 2014
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so if he accepts whats the best deal bron can be offered?
Jul 05th 2014
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      Not nearly enough...only way to get both is for them to both take less
Jul 05th 2014
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           I'm ok with getting Melo and keeping Pau at a big pay cut.
Jul 05th 2014
169
Lakers emerge as threat to land Melo (swipe)
Jul 06th 2014
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so Kobe and Carmello worked out at UCLA today..(swipe)
Jul 06th 2014
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NBA Legion Tweets....
Jul 06th 2014
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LOL, come on.
Jul 06th 2014
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Well that sounds reliable.
Jul 06th 2014
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Jordan Farmar to the Clippers (swipe)
Jul 06th 2014
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Incarcerated Bob tweets
Jul 06th 2014
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Good to know. Now we can focus on who to overpay for the next two years....
Jul 07th 2014
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Ok let's look at this thing objectively...
Jul 07th 2014
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I think if Melo & Gasol are here Nash is likely gone?
Jul 07th 2014
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kobe speaks (swipe)
Jul 09th 2014
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lulz
Jul 09th 2014
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      lulzlolololololulz
Jul 09th 2014
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           now that, my friend, is comedy.
Jul 09th 2014
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                *shrugs*
Jul 12th 2014
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                     cmon.
Jul 15th 2014
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                          I don't think we had a legit shot at any of the top FAs
Jul 19th 2014
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Swaggy P and Jordan Hill back....
Jul 11th 2014
184
Jeremy L too?
Jul 11th 2014
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so Wojo sayin a sign and trade with Pau is in the works...
Jul 12th 2014
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Yeah I'm still trying to figure out what we are getting back
Jul 12th 2014
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RE: Yeah I'm still trying to figure out what we are getting back
Jul 12th 2014
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      Figures, that's a Mitch type of guy...
Jul 12th 2014
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           That shit is bizarre
Jul 13th 2014
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RE: so Wojo sayin a sign and trade with Pau is in the works...
Jul 12th 2014
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Picks and young players please. No Boozer.
Jul 13th 2014
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Hello my friendzzzzz!
Jul 13th 2014
193
The pick fropm the Rockets is top 14 protected
Jul 13th 2014
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Alright. Now hoping for a pick from the Bulls for Pau.
Jul 13th 2014
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Link?
Jul 13th 2014
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      No link. I thought the Mirotic deal meant a possible S&T
Jul 13th 2014
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           i think a pau S&T is still on the table.
Jul 13th 2014
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sweet
Jul 14th 2014
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y'all still need a coach, right?
Jul 15th 2014
202
I like the Ed Davis signing....
Jul 17th 2014
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Ed Davis, at that value especially, is off the charts
Jul 17th 2014
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good pick up.
Jul 17th 2014
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definitely a solid move...
Jul 17th 2014
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what a steal
Jul 17th 2014
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Boozer gives us some nice depth now at the 4 and 5
Jul 17th 2014
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yep
Jul 17th 2014
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Booz & Davis are decent pickups for the price..
Jul 17th 2014
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so a reason for waiting to hire B.Scott is coming out...
Jul 17th 2014
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What?
Jul 17th 2014
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lulz
Jul 17th 2014
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lol
Jul 17th 2014
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I really want this to be true
Jul 17th 2014
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hahaha.... datgudhate
Jul 17th 2014
216
man please
Jul 17th 2014
218
Welp, guess I have to keep the avi one more season.
Jul 17th 2014
212
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bsx9IOKCYAEEFXP.jpg
Jul 18th 2014
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so we bringing back Xavier...and we released Marshall
Jul 18th 2014
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definitely wanted Xavier back...
Jul 18th 2014
221
Nah. At this point they need to hang on to Nash until the deadline
Jul 18th 2014
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Nash can't play anymore... if he could....you could keep him
Jul 19th 2014
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      What does that have to do with not wanting to pay him for two extra year...
Jul 19th 2014
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           Steve Nash can't play anymore....literally...he's not taking minutes
Jul 19th 2014
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                So, again, you want to pay Nash next year and the year after.
Jul 19th 2014
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                     If I could add a Bo McCalebb to the roster this year
Jul 20th 2014
248
At this point, you take the hit for Nash in one season
Jul 18th 2014
223
what happened to earl clark?
Jul 18th 2014
224
Got 4.5 million from Cle last year, now a FA
Jul 18th 2014
225
      Gustavo Ayon, Andray Blatche
Jul 18th 2014
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           We have a 2.7mill slot left, the coach is Byron
Jul 18th 2014
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           out because of 2.7 mil or fit?
Jul 18th 2014
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           Why in the fuck would JO play for a lotto team.....?!?!?
Jul 18th 2014
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                The same fuckin reason he played for phx 2 stints ago
Jul 18th 2014
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They need a 3rd PG...Lin is injury prone & Clarkson is a 2nd rd Rookie
Jul 18th 2014
230
Nash is your 3rd right now
Jul 18th 2014
232
Damn, unless Kobe went over to Germany and Randle plays like young...
Jul 19th 2014
238
give Lin the ball and let him work his magic. nm
Jul 19th 2014
240
I don't mind sucking as long as Clarkson and Randle get heavy minutes
Jul 19th 2014
241
Who is out there worth stretching Nash for?
Jul 19th 2014
242
Wesley Johnson back for 1 year - 1 Million
Jul 18th 2014
229
ryan kelly re-signed for 2 yrs...
Jul 18th 2014
234
Lakers trying to get Bledsoe?
Jul 19th 2014
243
some radio host conjured up that terrible trade idea
Jul 19th 2014
244
Stupid fucking idea if true.
Jul 19th 2014
245
Any rumor about the Lakers ain't happening.
Jul 19th 2014
247
lol @ "gets shit done." yeah, he's accomplished so much
Jul 24th 2014
251
      trying to pay attention to ricky fox on sports matters
Jul 24th 2014
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      Huh? Mitch has been pretty damn good
Jul 25th 2014
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           Yeah he's not replying to this.
Jul 25th 2014
255
           Does it not say "offseason post?" Are we not talking "right today?"
Jul 25th 2014
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                GMs aren't rated based off one or two off seasons.
Jul 25th 2014
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                You took the initial comments waaaaaay out of context on some agenda shi...
Jul 26th 2014
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                Likely Jeannie
Jul 26th 2014
270
That's utter nonsense some radio host made up
Jul 20th 2014
249
Jlin Introductory Press Conf
Jul 24th 2014
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RE: Jlin Introductory Press Conf
Jul 24th 2014
253
lakers make an official offer to byron scott...
Jul 25th 2014
256
He keeps getting these "walking into a buzzsaw" gigs now
Jul 25th 2014
258
lol @ the lakers being a 'buzzsaw gig'...
Jul 25th 2014
261
when he took the Cleveland job I'm pretty sure he thought Lebron...
Jul 25th 2014
262
Is anyone else watching Lakers games for the interactions with JLin?
Jul 25th 2014
268
If they somehow hired hakeem as a consultant
Jul 25th 2014
259
who are the other 2?
Jul 25th 2014
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Byron and Kobe
Jul 25th 2014
264
      Shit, forgot Yao Da God
Jul 25th 2014
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not happening..so bye nigga....take your talents back to LA..
Jul 25th 2014
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Byron got 4 yrs 17 mil
Jul 26th 2014
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finally.... now let's go...
Jul 26th 2014
272
      looking at GP as an assistant
Jul 27th 2014
273
           that's another shitty part about them waiting so long to hire a coach...
Jul 29th 2014
276
                Eddie Jordan.....Hooray!
Jul 29th 2014
278
Lakers Depth Chart/Starting Lineup
Jul 29th 2014
274
that means absolutely nothing at this point, they just hired a coach
Jul 29th 2014
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      doesnt mean much but I wouldnt say it means absolutely nothing
Jul 29th 2014
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           RE: doesnt mean much but I wouldnt say it means absolutely nothing
Jul 29th 2014
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                RE: doesnt mean much but I wouldnt say it means absolutely nothing
Jul 29th 2014
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                     He's a Laker now, I never root against my team, at this point I have no....
Jul 29th 2014
285
Byrons Press Conference
Jul 29th 2014
280
nvmd
Jul 29th 2014
281
yea bitch. keep that pussy shut.
Jul 29th 2014
283
      wait, what?
Jul 30th 2014
288
      again, i ask, por que?
Jul 31st 2014
292
Coop as Asst?
Jul 29th 2014
284
Full Transcript of the Scott Presser with Video
Jul 29th 2014
286
I see now why NJ and NO got rid of B. Scott..
Jul 29th 2014
287
Lakers bring in Beasley for a workout..
Jul 30th 2014
289
Kobe moving pretty well
Jul 31st 2014
290
Mitch on Cowherd on the rebuild
Jul 31st 2014
291
Let's get it started....
Sep 30th 2014
293
If we can just keep everybody healthy, we've had a horrible run of luck....
Sep 30th 2014
294
Byron Scott fighting math and history
Oct 15th 2014
295
See...some folks don't realize the fact that we don't have 3 shooters!!!...
Oct 22nd 2014
300
KOBE Revenge day
Oct 16th 2014
296
Byron should sit him.
Oct 16th 2014
297
Wes Johnson the lukiest dude on the team right now...
Oct 22nd 2014
298
Absolute dog shit
Oct 22nd 2014
299
      Ps nuggets waived Quincy miller
Oct 22nd 2014
301
WTF is Byron gonna do with the starting lineup?
Oct 22nd 2014
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one thing though....
Oct 22nd 2014
303
Price is trash. There is no reason Lin isn't starting first game of the ...
Oct 23rd 2014
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      I like Price - hes a good backup G generally
Oct 23rd 2014
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      Is Nash done already?
Oct 23rd 2014
311
           this mf...he couldn't just say "Yo Julius, get that shit"...
Oct 23rd 2014
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           That made me think he was done
Oct 23rd 2014
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                yeah he's done...B isn't going to waste time worrying about
Oct 23rd 2014
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           He's done. Sciatica
Oct 23rd 2014
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      Lin should start.... Price and Clarkson back him up...
Oct 23rd 2014
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man....Young Randle looked super tonight..
Oct 22nd 2014
304
Jeanie-"if you don't want to play with Kobe, you're a loser"
Oct 23rd 2014
307
Jeanie coming off as slightly delusional to me
Oct 23rd 2014
308
the Buss family doesn't have to defend Kobe's contract....
Oct 23rd 2014
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      RE: the Buss family doesn't have to defend Kobe's contract....
Oct 23rd 2014
316
           how is Kobe's contract "negatively impacting the product on the
Oct 23rd 2014
317
sounds crazy but smarter move than letting the product speak for itself
Oct 23rd 2014
318
      Fair nm
Oct 23rd 2014
321
good luck to Steve Nash...
Oct 23rd 2014
319
go get Quincy Miller
Oct 23rd 2014
320
      Percy Miller too
Oct 23rd 2014
322
Thi would be a dumb mitch move
Oct 24th 2014
323
why is it a dumb move?
Oct 24th 2014
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RE: why is it a dumb move?
Oct 24th 2014
328
the Lakers owe Nash 10 million dollars on his contract..
Oct 24th 2014
325
Not getting why it's a dumb move.
Oct 24th 2014
326
How exactly is that dumb or short-sighted?
Oct 24th 2014
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      See 328
Oct 25th 2014
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      So this is why they still havent done it.
Nov 11th 2014
333
           Isn't that what I said? It's either/or
Nov 11th 2014
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Last night should've sealed jeremy as starter by default
Oct 25th 2014
330
Introspective Kobe is Endearing
Nov 01st 2014
331
No. I think honestly Kobe's knows this team ain't winning more than 25 g...
Nov 01st 2014
332

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1. "I'm glad we didn't hire Fish"
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at this point assuming Thibs isn't a realistic option, the two best candidates are Hollins and Scott. I want Hollins.

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option. If we don't go with Byron I wouldn't mind giving Mark Jackson a look.

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10. "i like mark jackson..."
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..and although i think he's great with players, i don't think his approach to coaching sits well with brass/execs.

could be politics, but i'm not really sure how he & mitch would get along.


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3. "I think you and everybody else hankering for a coach needs to be"
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patient.

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4. "Lol I know you're not falling for that 'wait to see who Lebron wants' bs"
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5. "No, that's actually not why."
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Wasn't Mitch always pointing to the draft while talking about hiring a coach?

LeBron has nothing to do with this.

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6. "We're in a nice spot right now..."
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again..a spot we haven't been in for years and years...

lottery pick and cap space moving forward...

as far as the draft is concerned...here would be my ranking of possible guys we could get...I'll take out the top 3 guys...Embid, Parker and Wiggins... with the rest I'd rank them like this..


1. Exum
2. Gordon
3. Vonleah
4a. Randle
4b. Smart

we will definitely get one of those guys, and with the FA class this year and next...we can build a solid team here very quickly....

as far as the coaching position is concerned...really no need to rush this...I think they probably already have it downed to their top 3 choices.... with B. Scott probably still being the favored....Hollins is an intriguing possibility though...

I think B. Scott checks more boxes than anyone else though. Although he has a losing record as a head coach...his first 2 chances saw him take over a pretty terrible squad..and eventually lead the Nets to back to back Eastern Conference wins...and led New Orleans to the Best regular season record in the West...in both of those situations B. Scott was replaced because his demanding style was thought not to vibe well with this generation of player over the long haul, but in both cases...neither team has done as well after B as they did with him..... as far as the Cavs..they were coming off a traumatizing loss of LeBron, and B. didn't get the time to rebuild.... but again...Mike Brown did even worse..

B. should be the guy....he brings a toughness and a tradition that the Lakers need right now...

  

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7. "Hire Byron Scott, draft Julius Randle"
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and let the rebuild commence

  

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260. "^^^ only took 6.5 weeks"
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lol

  

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8. "my first choice would"
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be Hollins, then Byron. Hollins has a more recent history of success. I'm glad Fisher didn't happen.

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9. "per Chris Broussard...B. Scott had his 2nd interview today"
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http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-byron-scott-meets-with-team-for-second-interview/2014/06/10/

looks like we may be down to the final 3 candidates..

this should be wrapped up in about a week.

  

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11. "like it or not, its time to start over..."
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..outside of kobe, there really isn't much to build on with the current roster.

i don't see gasol returning. honestly, i'm tired of his constant whining. we all know the coaching situation has been ridiculous, but that doesn't excuse pau's lackluster approach.

a few young guys have potential (young, kelly, etc), but their status is up in the air.

at this point, i believe byron scott is the best coaching option available to them. as far as direction, i'm starting to wonder if mitch still has what it takes to lead this franchise. i know most people like to blame their current woes on buss jr., but there's plenty of responsibility to be shared in that regard.

not really sure what they'll do with the 7th pick in the draft, but i'd love to see them acquire a few more picks.

*the rumors/speculation about kevin love mean nothing to me. he's using every bit of leverage he has to create the best free agent situation for himself, and i respect that. still, i'm not convinced that he seriously wants to be there.


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13. "lol...we have one other player besides Kobe"
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who is under contract...

lol..

obviously we're starting over....

but a lottery pick and cap space moving forward has more value with the Lakers than any other organization.....we're not the Raptors starting over ya know...

  

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38. "I feel you on Mitch, a lot of the stuff people blame on Jim Buss is..."
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really Mitch pulling strings behind the scenes. Mitch didn't want Phil back in the organization because Mitch knew he would be marginalized and eventually squeezed out just like his mentor Jerry West.

Mitch gave away 4 draft picks for Steve Nash and had D'Antoni waiting in the wings all along.

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12. "2 weeks to the draft and NO COACH!!!"
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I find that REALLY strange

Being that the LAL's HC job is one of the most attractive in the sport

they seem to be struggling with finding a fit

I know the situation is fluid

with all the cap space and FA, etc...

but they swung and missed twice now with Kerr and Fish (and Feel too)

any of ya'll worried?

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15. "swung and miss? were they even after fish/kerr?"
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16. "no need to rush..."
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>I find that REALLY strange
>
>Being that the LAL's HC job is one of the most attractive in
>the sport
>
>they seem to be struggling with finding a fit

there is nothing demonstrative in this process that the Lakers are "struggling" with anything...

nothing...

the are taking their time in an effort to make an informed decision...

there is no need at all to do it any different...we have 2 players under contract...we know generally which players may be available at the #7 pick....

no need to rush anything...

>
>I know the situation is fluid
>
>with all the cap space and FA, etc...
>
>but they swung and missed twice now with Kerr and Fish (and
>Feel too)

huh??? swing and missed??? lol.... the Lakers were not going to overpay for Kerr or Fisher, 2 guys with zero coaching experience.... That just wasn't going to happen...we didn't want them to be our coach.... neither would have ranked as better candidates that Hollins or Scott...

nor did the ownership want Phil back..

people need to stop listening to the hype and apply some common sense...You don't swing and miss on guys you never wanted.....lol

>
>any of ya'll worried?

not at all....

in fact I'm super confident right now..... Cap space...lotto pick..and a new coaching regime.... and a GM with a proven track record of building a winner w/o cap space or lotto picks...

the last 2 impact players who were on their teams in the final year of the contracts looking to move were Chris Paul and Dwight Howard.... Mitch Kupchek worked out a deal to acquire both of those players... neither situation worked out to our advantage...but not because Mitch didn't make the move to get those guys...He did make those moves....

now he's got more opportunities to make moves..

  

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17. "Swung and miss may have been the wrong words to use I guess"
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the LAL's HC job being a marquee position, I just find it strange that the position is still open

one would think they would have their pick of the lot

of course we're making assumptions, and reading alot of rumors, etc...

my sentiment, is that the 2 HC candidates being wooed CHOSE to coach elsewhere

I just find that strange

waiting isn't a cureall

the vacancies around the league are being filled

and the LAL's can wait to read the tea leaves

but, again, my sentiment is that the LAL's HC job is one of the most attractive in the NBA

yet, candidates are willingly going elsewhere and not waiting.

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18. "Please, show us where the Lakers were ";wooing" Kerr and Fish. "
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The Lakers PASSED on Fish.

In fact, many reports surfaced that they were interested in giving him a front office position and wanted an experienced coach.

They're doing their due diligence and taking their time, and didn't pursue, much less interview, the two guys WITH NO COACHING EXPERIENCE you claim they "missed out on".

I mean, if you're going to continue your obvious trolling in every Lakers subject, you should probably try to come with better material.

As far as "vacancies", there are two by my count: Lakers and Cavs.

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26. "Please show me where I said the Lakers were "wooing" Kerr and Fish. "
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DAYUM, why LAL fans get so butt hurt

like this topic hasn't been brought up outside of these boards

and somebody outside the fanbase can't comment on it

FOK and U!

"The Lakers PASSED on Fish."

according to the Lakers. according to Fish, he let them know ahead of time that he was already in the negotiating phase with Feel and nem...

...and then they released that save face statement.

"I mean, if you're going to continue your obvious trolling in every Lakers subject, you should probably try to come with better material."

please, enlighten me to what the FOK you are even talking about

search and find a post of me trolling, please.

"As far as "vacancies", there are two by my count: Lakers and Cavs."

kinda proves my point doesn't it

the HC candidates have accepted positions in what would traditionally be thought of as less attractive franchises

Lakers and Cavs, does that sound right to you?

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30. "my sentiment, is that the 2 HC candidates being wooed CHOSE "
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^^^^^Direct quote from you. After you said:

"but they swung and missed twice now with Kerr and Fish (and Feel too)"

So.. I mean, who were the two that were wooed?

>DAYUM, why LAL fans get so butt hurt

Hurt, please, tell me about this “hurt”. I noted the ridiculous, absurd, factually false statement you made.

>like this topic hasn't been brought up outside of these
>boards
>and somebody outside the fanbase can't comment on it
>FOK and U!

LOL. Talk about hurt. You’re throwing out FOK U, but I’m ‘butt hurt’. Sidenote: who the fuck uses that term these days?

Did I say or imply that people outside the fanbase can’t comment on it? No, I actually just told you it was bullshit.

>"The Lakers PASSED on Fish."
>
>according to the Lakers. according to Fish, he let them know
>ahead of time that he was already in the negotiating phase
>with Feel and nem...
>...and then they released that save face statement.

LOL. Ok, player. It was reported before he was out of the playoffs that the Lakers primary interest was in a front office position. You go ahead and cook though.

>please, enlighten me to what the FOK you are even talking
>about
>search and find a post of me trolling, please.

Stop it. You know good and well. Stop lying to yourself.

>"As far as "vacancies", there are two by my count: Lakers and
>Cavs."
>
>kinda proves my point doesn't it



>the HC candidates have accepted positions in what would
>traditionally be thought of as less attractive franchises
>Lakers and Cavs, does that sound right to you?

-Kerr wasn’t even interviewed, to my knowledge.
-We’ve already covered Fish.
-SVG was given way more control (coach and president) than we’d be remotely willing to give anyone except Phil, and with Jim on board, that was never going to happen.

So please, break down all the head coaching jobs that were taken up by guys the Lakers brass had in their sites? You’re ranting and raving about us swinging and missing on the guys we wooed, and yet haven’t produced a single candidate that we were ever reported as having anything more than exploratory interest in. We never ‘wooed’ Kerr and the interest in Fish was primarily front office. SVG got a deal we’d never even offer. So… uh… yeah. It all adds up to a completely false and nonsensical post, yet again, by bentagain. Don’t shoot the messenger, just lie back and allow the sweet, soothing salve of your own wrongness seep in.

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32. "RE: Stop it. You know good and well. Stop lying to yourself. "
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33. "Stop it. You know good and well. Stop lying to yourself. "
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Hell… in this VERY post you denied that you ever said the Lakers were ‘wooing’ Fish and Kerr. I posted up the quote and you ignored it.

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34. "RE: 2 HC candidates being wooed"
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Kerr's name was floated in damn near every HC vacancy

and Fish's name went right in that spot when Kerr went to GS

wooed, as in the NBA (yes, it's bigger than LA)

read again, I didn't type wooed by the Lakers

you JUMPED to that conclusion.

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40. "Stop being obtuse. "
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>Kerr's name was floated in damn near every HC vacancy

...but not the Lakers.

>and Fish's name went right in that spot when Kerr went to GS

No, actually. He was mentioned with the Knicks, and the Lakers, but never named as a serious candidate and the reports were that they were interested in front office, not as head coach.

>wooed, as in the NBA (yes, it's bigger than LA)

No. Sorry. You were talking about the Lakers. You said they "swung and missed" on Kerr and Fish, yet there are no reports that the Lakers ever pursued either of them for the job.

>read again, I didn't type wooed by the Lakers
>
>you JUMPED to that conclusion.

No, I merely read words in the context in which they are being presented, and your entire post was about how the Lakers "swung and missed" out on Kerr, which is another way of saying they attempted to sign those guys and were told no, which never happened. You then said that, in the context of the response you got from that post, that the 2 coaches being wooed went elsewhere.

So, I mean, this is an awful lot of backpedaling to avoid admitting you just got it wrong and none of what you thought was "weird" or "curious" ever actually happened.

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44. "CT, don't even waste your time "
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We both know the cycle: most of these dudes will make-up or exaggerate things to fit into their pre-conceived notions (esp when it comes to polarizing teams, the Lakers obviously fit that bill) regardless of empirical evidence. When called on it, they will squirm around and then come the "Lakers fans are mad/butthurt" platitude variations. Same ole stuff.

Funniest part to me about this dude talking about the longevity of the search (regardless of the fact that Mitch already said it would take awhile, maybe even beyond the draft) is that logic would say that if your last two coaching searches were done quickly and niether worked out...maybe try taking some time on this one lol.

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49. "All good points. "
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19. "Thought it was pretty known they were a) in no rush and b)"
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waiting until the draft. That said, no marquee coaches are really available and prestige aside, it's a shit job to have right now. Depending on who we draft and the FA market...we'll see what happens. Sounds like it's Byron Scott right now though...

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24. "seems like a no-brainer"
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the candidates I'm hearing are Dunleavy, Gentry, Hollins, Rambis (although I think he's also rumored to be on Fish's staff in NYK), and Scott

if they stand by their statement that they aren't going to hire a HC with no HC experience

doesn't seem like a hard choice

I heard Karl's name floated, and I think that would be my choice

but the LAL don't want a run and gun HC I guess

it's one thing to not rush to a decision

but given the options

kinda weird that they haven't made a decision yet

and I would think that a HC would want some say in the draft and how FAs would fit their system

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27. "It's not weird, it's widely reported and transparent. "
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They're taking their time.

Mitch is an old hand at this and knows what he's doing.

You, on the other hand, or an old hand at hating the Lakers and criticizing them for everything at every turn in every post you can.

The end.

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28. "post 26"
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you don't have to chase me around for a reply

take a midol or something dude.

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31. "I mean, you could just post something accurate and factual. "
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I don't need to take a midol.

It's hilarious that your defense for being loud and completely wrong is that I need to take a pill.

As far as chasing you around, this is all the same post. Stop acting like you're being followed from post to post or some shit. Good lord your Laker hate has made you delusional.

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39. "6 weeks after ' resigned and 2 weeks before the draft the LAL"
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don't have a HC

I find that strange.

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41. "You wouldn't find it strange if you actually read actual reporting "
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>don't have a HC
>
>I find that strange.

Or actually knew anything about the organization or Mitch or pretty much understood anything outside of this weird anti-Laker trolling gimmick you've got going.

We're done now.

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47. " Lakers Nation Debate: Lakers Taking Too Long With Coaching Search?"
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http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-nation-debate-lakers-taking-too-long-with-coaching-search/2014/06/08/

so I'm trolling OkaySports?

is this LakersNation writer trolling Lakers Nation?

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48. "I'm not talking to them. I'm talking to you about your factually false"
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assertions.

Any more diversions to that point?

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14. "who we drafting?"
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20. "Gordon or Randall. "
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29. "Looks like it. Smart is moving up with his workouts "
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Already had 2 with Boston

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36. "I can live with either of those.."
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21. "we'll have our choice of one of these 5 guys"
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1. Exum
2. Gordon
3. Vonleah
4a. Randle
4b. Smart

  

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22. "Exum will NOT be there at 7."
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I'd be shocked if he went past 5.

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23. "I'll be shocked if we draft a point guard at all. "
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All things considered, Kendall did a fine job and will come cheap with their team option, and there’s still upside to be had with him.

IMO the greater overall value will be had with adding Randal or Gordon, because Kendall gives us a cost effective option at the point as it is and his playmaking will only help the rookie.

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25. "I'm not a fan of Gordon"
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super athletic but his inability to shoot scares me. I'm hoping for Randle or Vonleh.

  

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35. "if Vonleh is there i'm partying"
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i think a lot of it is on Utah. hoping they pick Randle

  

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42. "Noah won't be there. "
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45. "Gordon's explosiveness..quickness and defense "
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outweight his shooting....he can improve his outside shooting...He's only 19 years old.....

but honestly if he can project out to being a Small forward eventually.... his upside would be too good to over look...

there are other Power forward free agents besides Love over the next couple years...but project any of the better ones in a front court next to Aaron Gordon.... Gordon can guard an 3s out there....if you have a Power forward next to him that can score...that's a very difficult combo to match up against....

I would weigh possiblility of doing that even over getting Vonleigh and trying to make him into a center...or even getting Randle and seeing how far he can take his game, which is pretty much under the rim...

  

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54. "Randle's going to need foot surgery"
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so there goes that.

  

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43. "I wouldn't be suprised at all...."
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I've been saying that if Smart comes into his workouts and is now knocking down shots...he moves up the draft board..

also Kendall Marshall wasn't terrible...but he also didn't show a lot more than being a decent back up point...

if anyone would stop the Lakers from drafting a point it's going to be the prospect of possibly signing a Kyrie after next season, or someone else who is an established starting point...

also the Lakers were looking more increasingly intrigued with Zach LaVine.... if he's projected as a point guard he would also be moving up in the draft..

  

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46. "i would rather have LaVine than Randle or Smart"
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if we miss out on Exum and Vonleh, wich we probably will

  

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50. "Zach has potential..."
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his jumper is funny looking though and it was inconsistent...

but if he's looking better than Smart in the work outs....it's possible some team..including us has him ranked over him...

but again on the other hand...if Smart is knocking down shots in his work outs...I personally would pick him over Zach.... Smart has a lot of tools for a point guard....

Zach being able to possibly play the 1 or the 2 is plus for him though...

  

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51. "IMO it would be better to trade down for him if they went that route"
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52. "No way I take him over Smart "
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If Lavine is the player wanted, trade down from 7.

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37. "I hope we draft size."
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53. "I hope we draft a guy that can defend"
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55. "RE: I hope we draft a guy that can defend"
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that's why I'm hoping if Vonleh isn't available we go for Smart. He'd be our first PG since Van Exel with the ability to make an ASG & the maybe we'd stop letting every fucking point guard we're playing look like allen iverson.

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56. "rumor mill: the #7 and Nash for MCW and Young Thad?"
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http://lakeshowlife.com/2014/06/20/lakers-draft-rumors-lakers-76ers-working-mcw-trade/

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57. "I doubt that goes down but I'd take it. "
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The reigning ROTY is a solid get for a #7 pick. Young's contract is up the same time Kobe's is, so it's a decent move give us some youth in the meantime but it's not exactly a title play right now and aims squarely at the 2016 FA class. It makes we wonder what the next move is for this coming season though, because signing any of the name FA's this year basically takes us off the market for Love next summer.

Of course, there's always the possibility that MCW takes a big step forward into true stardom and that changes things. Now, if we can somehow snag the #10 pick in return along with MCW, then that's a different story entirely and gives us a nice basket of assets going forward.

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58. "rumor mill: #7 in 3-way trade to acquire Klay..."
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2067632-kevin-love-trade-rumors-latest-buzz-and-speculation-surrounding-timberwolves-pf?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national
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59. "two mad jackers in the backcourt..i say go for it"
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60. "Kobe can run point"
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73. "he can't check a point"
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61. "So...ok...looks like we trying to clear space to sign bouf of em"
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lol..

here's the thing though..

they talkin bout moving the draft pick.....but you can't do that shit before Thursday..unless you for sure that getting Mello and Bron is gonna happen....

either way..I dig that we aimin high.....\\


Lakers trying to lure LeBron and Carmelo

By trading the No. 7 overall pick and dumping Steve Nash and his $9.7 million expiring contract, the Los Angeles Lakers are reportedly one of the teams ramping up for a run at LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony.

The All-Stars are opting out of their current contracts to hit free agency July 1. Contracts can be signed with other teams as of July 8.
ESPN reported the Lakers, Cleveland Cavaliers and Atlanta Hawks are making plans to take a shot at bringing in one or both marquee free agents.

James could be back in Miami, and the Heat remain ahead of the rest of the crowded pack to re-sign him. If James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh opt out as expected and Udonis Haslem declines a one-year option, Miami would free up more than $50 million. Only backup point guard Norris Cole would be under contract.

The Lakers are trying to clear about $33 million, enough to bring in James and Anthony at $16.5 million annually to team them with Kobe Bryant. Many criticized Bryant for not taking less money when he signed a two-year, $48 million contract last November.

Atlanta and Cleveland would need to manuever their team-friendly contracts to accomodate multiple big-money signings, but Brian Windhorst of ESPN said the Cavaliers have one offseason model in which the team could keep point guard Kyrie Irving plus the No. 1 overall pick in Thursday's draft and still have in excess of $30 million to spend in free agency.

  

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63. "Man, do the C's take Nash and the #7"
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Maybe for a future pick or two? Clippers pick next year and one of the Nets picks we own.

I'd hate to help the Lakers but grabbing the #7 for nothing would be nice.

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65. "They'll draft the best player available regardless..."
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>they talkin bout moving the draft pick.....but you can't do
>that shit before Thursday..unless you for sure that getting
>Mello and Bron is gonna happen....

Somebody with flexibility will want said player and the upcoming cap space Nash's ending contract affords...especially if all they have to give up is a future pick. If not, we keep our rookie and try again next year.

  

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62. "damn I thought we'd at least have a coach by the draft "
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Guess I'll be wrong on that one....Hollins is the best coach available, just hire him already.

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68. "post #12"
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It seems counter intuitive to release a statement, that the LAL's are not going to hire a HC without HC'ing experience

and then continue to delay the hiring process

by eliminating HCs without experience, the candidate pool shrunk to about 5 guys maybe? (I think Hollins, or one of the possible candidates went to GS with Kerr)

at this point, I don't really know what's gained by additional interviews

especially IRT Coach Scott

I still find it strange.

IMO, the players that are rumored to be on the move (Melo, Bron, and Love), are looking to upgrade their situations

an empty roster affords you the cap space to throw big $$$ at these guys

but is a team without a HC, clearly in rebuilding mode, and it still being Bean's team, an attractive destination comparatively

for Love, SURE. for Bron and Melo, nah.

they would almost be setup as scapegoats, IMO.

we waited for you, then built our team around you, hired the HC you wanted, etc...(and if they lost, imagine that fry party)

they could land at any number of teams with a better shot at winning right away before the LAL.

I would think, having a plan (and that would start wiht a HC and a system/idea of how the team is going to be schemed, etc...) would be more attractive than a blank check/canvas.

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64. "cant wait for the draft"
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its time for something to happen.

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66. "Its looking like we'll end up with either Randle, Gordon or Smart, most...."
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of the mocks I've seen have us taking Randle. I like him the most out of those 3 but that foot is big concern. I don't think Gordon will ever be a star but I think he can be a solid role player. I don't know about Smart, non-shooting guards just don't appeal to me.

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67. "outside of the obvious big names what free agents should we look at?"
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- is there any chance Pau comes back on a 1 or 2 year deal?

- There are some interesting restricted FA's out there like Bledsoe and Monroe...

- as far as unrestricted guys that we might be interested in there's Lowery although I've never been a big fan of his because his poor shooting...

- I don't see Lance being a good fit for us for a number of reasons...

- could we bring Ariza back at a reasonable price?

- should we look at Chalmers?

Who should we bring back from last year?

- I'd like to give Marshall another look

- Jordan Hill was productive when healthy

- I thought Henry show flashes of potential

- I think Meeks would be a decent bench player

I wonder what Socks is up to these days...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2093700-can-andrew-bynum-come-home-again-to-the-la-lakers

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69. ""
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<- There are some interesting restricted FA's out there like Bledsoe and Monroe…

No. We’d overpay like crazy to have a shot at either and neither is worth overpaying to get IMO. Pau is probably still our best bet for a big man.

<- as far as unrestricted guys that we might be interested in there's Lowery

^^^My favorite target, primarily because being unrestricted means we have a shot at signing him outright without overpaying and it could give us a leg up on getting rid of Nash, though I’m not holding my breath on them biting on the prospect of his expiring deal. His shooting doesn’t bother me in the least.

<- I don't see Lance being a good fit for us for a number of reasons.
Agreed. I’ll be pissed if we pick his goofy ass up.

<- could we bring Ariza back at a reasonable price?

I’m guessing yes. He’ll probably be cheaper than Deng.

<Who should we bring back from last year?

<- I'd like to give Marshall another look

Honestly he’s the only thing that makes me hesitant to pick up another point guard. I’d kind of like to hang on to Nash until the deadline and give Marshall a shot to make good on the promise he flashed last season. If he shows marked improvement and Randall turns out to be a good rookie (seems like he’s the pick, I doubt Noah hangs around that long), Nash’s expiring could be used to net something good at the deadline.

All of that’s a bit of a gamble though.

<- Jordan Hill was productive when healthy

<- I thought Henry show flashes of potential

Depending on the cost, I’d like to keep Marshall, Jordan, and Henry… possibly even Swaggy P, depending on the price.
If I remember correctly, the MLE is out as an option since we’ve exceeded the luxury tax threshold, so that’s a concern. The 5 mil (or so) cap raise is a plus but the addition of that MLE would have helped a lot. To sign a couple of these guys. I think we have a cheap option on Marshall though. I think that’s a solid supporting cast if we can add, say, Lowry and Ariza to a healthy Pau and Kobe sans Pringles.

I’m concerned with us going all in on Lebron though, and just giving away Nash and that pick for cap space chasing him down.

Between this year's FA class and the potential for next years FA class looming, there are just too many questions and variables between what’s desirable, what's available, and what's even possible

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70. "I like Randell as college player. But I'd take Smart of him. Maybe"
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Gordon too. I'm worried about the T-Rex arms.

  

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71. "I'd also put both ahead of Randle..."
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I'd have Gordon slightly over Smart..but Randle behind Smart...probably still would have had it that way even without the injury question for Randle...

i'd avoid Embid if he falls..but I doubt he'll fall too much..

obviously if Vonleh or Exum fell to us I'd take either ..

but I think with Gordon, Smart and Randle we'll have our choice of solid player if we keep them or someone another team would want if we move them for more space...

  

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72. "I love Smart's defensive pedigree and strength"
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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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74. "lol... seeing Exum #7 on Bilas best available..."
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doubt he falls to us....

kind of wish we had a lost a couple of those games at the end.

  

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75. "wow...Vonleh is on the board for us..."
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who would have thought..

  

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76. "if we take Randle over Vonleh..they must love Randle's motor"
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78. "Motor and hard-nosed attitude "
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If he can continue to work on his jumper and utilize that work ethic...he can be very good.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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77. "ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh damn."
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oh well. get it Randle.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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79. "Broussard: Lakers dream is Melo + Bron or Melo + Bosh"
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https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/482316677548613633

Lakers' dream is to add LeBron & Melo this summer. If that fails would go for CBosh & Melo, sources say. That's assuming Bosh opts out

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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80. "good fucking luck."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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81. "So I'm hearing we got Jordan Clarkson..."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFwyjrb3ts

not mad at that...dude's got good size and he's a finisher

  

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"RE: So I'm hearing we got Jordan Clarkson..."


  

          

Looks like he has a little Exum and a little Lavine in him...

not as polished as Exum but just as athletic, not as athletic as Lavine but more polished. All are combo guards, and about the same size.

"MY FOOD FOR THOUGHT SO HOT IT GIVE YOU DUDES ULCERS."
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82. "RE: So I'm hearing we got Jordan Clarkson..."
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Looks like he has a little Exum and a little Lavine in him...

not as polished as Exum but just as athletic, not as athletic as Lavine but more polished. All are combo guards, and about the same size.

"MY FOOD FOR THOUGHT SO HOT IT GIVE YOU DUDES ULCERS."
JAY Z

  

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84. "watching that film didn't make me optimistic at all"
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Good size but he doesn't have a good enough handle to blow by people or a good enough jump shot make the D overplay in a PNR situation. He's basically a slashing 2 guard w/o a jumper.

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94. " Javaris Crittenton 2.0"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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83. "Randle's post-draft press conference..."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVrDRbjfYSM




\I really see why we liked this young man.

Obviously he interviewed really well..comes a across as a real go-getter....

if his work outs were as solid as they said....

I think we got something here...

  

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85. "he's got 20/10 written all over him"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOlwIp3kWc

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90. "the 10 i think is no problem, the 20 i'm not so sure, especially right a..."
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he's gonna have to figure out new ways to score, but i like his attitude and definitely think he will be the type of player who will come back every season with something new /improved

  

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92. "he's a good enough shooter to expand his game to the high post"
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I like his versatility...He'll be able to score on the block all the way to the FT line extended..
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86. "i like what i'm seeing..."
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..i'm sure the bigger picture won't be revealed for a bit, but this is a great start.

randle appears to be one of the few drafted that is ready to contribute right away. his work ethic, size, and skill set should fit in just fine.

the clarkson pick up was a nice addition as well. he's not as polished as some would like, but has the athleticism and a solid upside.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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87. "i wasn't high on Randle going into the draft"
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but the more i think about it the more i like the pick

  

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88. "considering his size & skill set..."
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..it just makes sense.

no need to convince pau that he needs to stay or continue asking him to be more aggressive/assertive in the paint. he's likely to go after more $$$, and he's earned that opportunity.

train younger talent to do all of that, with plenty of potential.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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89. "I was high on dude until I saw his wingspan"
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That is the biggest concern for me. That said, the pick was a no brainer with what was left at 7. I do like his attitude. If he can become an elite face up shooter from 15 out, he'll be a monster since he actually has decent handles at his size.

  

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91. "his wingspan is about the same as Kevin Love's"
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________________________________________
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93. "Which is why Love averages 0.5 blks per for his career same w/ Z-Bo"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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96. "Z-Bo's arms are actually pretty long"
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________________________________________
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99. "Uh right about Love. Wrong about Z-Bo. Z-Bo is effective mainly"
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because he's got a 7 footers reach. That fool can't jump for shit but can get his shot off.

  

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95. "So Mello decision should come 2nd week in July...(swipe)"
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Lakers among teams he's supposed to meet with...

as I mentioned in another post....all of these teams will need Melo to fit a different role...some will need him more as a 4..others strictly a 3... I'm curious how much that will impact his decision because I can't see how it wouldn't impact it...



http://sports.yahoo.com/news/source--carmelo-anthony-aiming-to-make-free-agent-decision-in-second-week-of-july-172349955.html

Carmelo Anthony aims to make free-agent decision in second week of July

New York Knicks forward Carmelo Anthony hopes to make a decision on where he will play next season in the second week of July, a source told Yahoo Sports.

Anthony opted out of his contract with the Knicks recently to become an unrestricted free agent and can begin talking to teams July 1. A source said there is currently no frontrunner for Anthony's services. He is expected to meet with the Knicks, Chicago Bulls, Los Angeles Lakers, Houston Rockets and Dallas Mavericks. There was no mention of the Miami Heat. Anthony hopes to visit the aforementioned teams in their respective cities during the opening days of free agency. At the moment, no other teams are expected to get a meeting.

The source said Anthony loves New York and playing for the Knicks, but there are still questions surrounding the franchise. The main variables: the direction of first-year president Phil Jackson and first-year coach Derek Fisher, and how long it will take the Knicks to become a winner again. Anthony yearns to be in a winning situation now and knows he would have to be patient if he stays with the Knicks, the source said.

The Knicks can offer Anthony the longest contract and the most money at five years and $130 million compared to the four years and about $96 million Anthony would earn if he were to leave for another team. Jackson has said that he asked Anthony to potentially take a pay cut to remain with the Knicks. But the source also said Jackson only talked to Anthony about the concept of taking a pay cut and that Jackson said he would be willing to offer a maximum contract if that is what it took to re-sign Anthony. The source added that Anthony, 30, viewed opting in to the final year of his contract for $23.3 million next season without signing an extension as risky at his age.

Jackson was evasive when asked by reporters Thursday night if he would be willing to complete a sign-and-trade with Anthony if he opts to go elsewhere. The source added that the Knicks and Anthony have had no discussions about the possibility of a sign-and-trade.

Anthony could visit the Rockets and the Mavericks on the same day, the source said. Anthony has an offseason home in Los Angeles, which could make it easy to visit the Lakers. The source emphasized that the plan is to get the visits completed quickly at the start of free agency

  

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97. "I still think they're playing this "wait on hiring a coach" thing..."
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ass backwards.

Players want a team with stability and a clear direction of where they are going. The Lakers are kinda flipping in the wind right now.

If Hollins goes to the Nets they really have no other choice but Scott unless they pull a Cleveland and go after Ettore Messina, supposedly he's a candidate in Brooklyn too...

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98. "I am curious as to what the real motivation is behind it..."
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>ass backwards.
>
>Players want a team with stability and a clear direction of
>where they are going. The Lakers are kinda flipping in the
>wind right now.

I'm gonna need to know that before I pass judgement on it. Because like you part of me kind of think it does give a bad look that we haven't hired one yet..

but on the other hand....

when you look at the other possible motivation for waiting..it does kind of make sense..

the issue of a "star" free agent coming to the Lakers should be worked out within the next 10 days or so...for example whether Carmello comes or not.

part of the conversation with Carmello would involve them "checking off" on a new coach before he signs. In particular if that is coming from Kobe..who is going to be a point man in signing Melo.... if Kobe sells Melo on B. Scott BEFORE they hire B then Melo is going to feel some empowerment in the forming of the team. Someone wrote an article about this today ...they were talking about it on the radio when I was coming back from the gym so I haven't read it..but what they were saying about the courting of Carmello in terms of the coaching hire made a lot of sense..and it's something I think would be appealing to a star player like that...

holding off on the hire until the superstar player situation is worked out makes sense....now after that...there is no reason to wait because the hire isn't going to impact the guys on the 2nd tier we would go after if Carmello goes elsewhere...... like Trevor Ariza isn't going to trip either way for example..




>
>If Hollins goes to the Nets they really have no other choice
>but Scott unless they pull a Cleveland and go after Ettore
>Messina, supposedly he's a candidate in Brooklyn too...

I think B has the job....but if Hollins were our guy I wouldn't be mad. Either way I think we're straight...

but after all this hashes out...I really want to know the reasoning behind waiting because there has got to be more to this than we're seeing...

  

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101. "Letting someone who hasn't even committed to your organization call..."
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shots is not a good look.

Now if the Nets snag Hollins or Scott the agent for the guy left could try to play hardball and we'll wind up with Rambis or Dumbleavy.

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102. "don't think it's calling shots...more like giving him the impression"
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that he's involved in the process ...or that the process is taking him into consideration...

im sayin...for a star player..it might be worth it...

especially if you already got your plan set

  

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103. "Lebron's not coming to the Lakers, that's a pipe dream, he has a better...."
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and more stable situation in Miami.

As for Carmelo, to be honest I'm not real keen on the idea of giving him a max or near max long-term deal at this point in his career, let alone allow him to have input on who our next coach will be.

Plus the Lakers thought they had plenty of time to pick a coach because all the other jobs were filled, now they may find themselves competing with Brooklyn for the same candidates.

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100. "they do have stability and a clear direction"
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that's what paying kobe 50 million gave them for the next 2 years

  

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104. "I'm seeing that Mitch is looking to get another interview with"
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Lionel Hollins..

other than the fact that he's been a successful coach...one thing in the back of my mind is that if you bring in Hollins..... you bring it Pau at a reasonable deal..then after next season with Marc being a free agent....his old coach..his brother...and a left handed front court mate would be pretty appealing..

  

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105. "I have a feeling we're about to get skunked "
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The only guys I see coming our way are Ariza and Bynum, and Pau if the price is right.

I just don't see any of the big names coming our way.

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106. "lol I'll pass on bringing the old band back together"
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>The only guys I see coming our way are Ariza and Bynum, and
>Pau if the price is right.

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108. "Welp .... that's likely to be the best we get."
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-Sig-

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110. "this"
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>The only guys I see coming our way are Ariza and Bynum, and
>Pau if the price is right.

you'll overpay for some mid level guys

----
bshelly

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111. "I'm ok with it if we do it for two year deals."
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-Sig-

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112. "RE: this"
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>>The only guys I see coming our way are Ariza and Bynum, and
>>Pau if the price is right.
>
>you'll overpay for some mid level guys

Nobody is overpaying for Bynum at this point now, any contract he signs will be similar to what he had in Indy, short-term and incentive-laden so if he bombs it's no big loss. If we don't get any of the big fish I'm good with give Pau $12-15mil or so on a 2 year deal. I think Ariza can be had for a reasonable price.

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114. "if pau does that he's an idiot"
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more wear and tear on his body in his prime..fk that

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115. "you could get Trevor....Pau....and Isiah Thomas"
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plus re-sign Hill..Henry...Swag and a couple other dudes at a reasonable ticket....giving us a relatively young and athletic squad next year...and have enough flexibility to make a run at Marc Gasol next offseason...

that there is about our worst case scenario.....

we straight

  

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119. "I'm cool on "Swaggy P", I can't believe people want that dude back"
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120. "he played well last season.."
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played hard even after we were well out of it..

almost 18ppg....shot decent from the field and from 3..

he wants to be here...

he'd be a solid 6th man for us..

  

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121. "he shot 43%(which was actually close to a career high for him) and..."
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didn't play a lick of defense, when his jumper is off(which is often) he's a liability to have on the floor because he literally doesn't do anything else well

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107. "Why haven't the Lakers gotten a coach yet? lol."
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WTF are they doing? Who are they waiting on?
If they didn't realize, the season is OVER.
Even if they were waiting for some assistant in SA,
where I think the cupboard is bare... haven't done it.
If they were waiting to throw Miami something and making
a run at SPO, haven't done it.

Hollins and Scott? Why is there no urgency to get one of these
guys? With the Kidd fiasco, might lose out on Hollins bc they've
been dicking around.

I know the Lakers and their fan base think they can just snap
their fingers and get what they want...
but those times might be over. Lost Dwight.
Whether they say they wanted him or not - he walked away.

Plotted this scheme to clear cap space (great move) all the
teams with vision did it, all teams should try and make a move
for the best player in the game... But I think the Lakers thought
they had a real shot at getting Lebron and Melo!
They're getting neither. Lebron was never going to LA.
Even Melo, won't say never, it's not as cut and dry as Bron,
but still...Melo was a pipe dream too.

Bill Simmons had a good idea on his pod.
Lakers fans how about this? Sign as many GOOD players as you can,
even if you have to overpay them to 2 YEAR deals.
IE - Lance Stephenson - 2 years 32 mill.
Pacers can't pay Lance 16 a year, they'd be over cap - wouldn't match.

Make a couple other deals like that, over pay a little if you gotta.

Be competitive for 2 years...won't win a title most likely but
at least Jack is coming to the games.

Summer after that 2nd year... go after KD with NO SALARY going forward.

Say here Kevin... BUILD THE TEAM YOU WANT.

Laker fans? Got a better plan?

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109. "The coaching situation has been covered ad nauseam around here. "
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>Bill Simmons had a good idea on his pod.
>Lakers fans how about this? Sign as many GOOD players as you
>can,
>even if you have to overpay them to 2 YEAR deals.
>IE - Lance Stephenson - 2 years 32 mill.
>Pacers can't pay Lance 16 a year, they'd be over cap -
>wouldn't match.

>Make a couple other deals like that, over pay a little if you
>gotta.
>Be competitive for 2 years...won't win a title most likely
>but
>at least Jack is coming to the games.

>Summer after that 2nd year... go after KD with NO SALARY going
>forward.

>Say here Kevin... BUILD THE TEAM YOU WANT.

>Laker fans? Got a better plan?

No, because that’s the best plan available at this time.

They fucked themselves when they didn’t blow this whole thing to smithereens last summer. They fucked themselves further when they signed Kobe to an extension that, while somewhat defensible and understandable in certain respects, was a massive albatross given the players we all knew would likely be available this year. They screwed the pooch even more by allowing Pringles to keep winning fucking games when the writing was on the wall that we weren’t going to be shit.

Well, here we are, and yes, that’s the best plan available. Overpay the shit out of guys like Lowry or Lance (who I want no parts of on the Lakers, personally) and perhaps Deng for two years, try to resign Pau and get rid of Nash’s contract in either a S&T or a guy with two years left and pray Kobe comes back on some Super Saiyan shit to end his career.

Who knows if KD comes? That’s still the best plan available if you ask me.

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113. "RE: The coaching situation has been covered ad nauseam around here. "
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Lowry, Lance, Kobe, Randle, Jordan hill might not win a ton of games but damn would they work hard, which is something I haven't seen from a lakers squad in a few years

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135. "last year's team was blue-collar and scrappy"
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>but damn would they work hard, which is something I
>haven't seen from a lakers squad in a few years

a bunch of guys fighting for their NBA careers

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152. "RE: last year's team was blue-collar and scrappy"
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true, but I mean hard-working for wins. Last year's squad was dudes obviously playing for themselves & their careers.

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116. "What do we think about these FAs?"
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Kyle Lowry
Eric Bledsoe
Trevor Ariza
Isiah Thomas
Greg Monroe
Lance Stephenson
Luol Deng
Chandler Parsons

Melo seems like a long shot. Lebron is a zero chance. Do we wait for the next tier of FAs or do we use up our cap space this year on non-superstar guys?

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118. "RE: What do we think about these FAs?"
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>Kyle Lowry

I've never been a huge fan and think he'll cost more than he's worth

>Eric Bledsoe

I do like him and his upside

>Trevor Ariza

It would be nice if we could get him back for a reasonable 2 yr deal

>Isiah Thomas

Nah

>Greg Monroe

Yep

>Lance Stephenson

Nah

>Luol Deng

Nah

>Chandler Parsons

Maybe depending on his asking price

>Melo seems like a long shot. Lebron is a zero chance. Do we
>wait for the next tier of FAs or do we use up our cap space
>this year on non-superstar guys?

Ideally if like to sign and re-sign some dudes to 2 year deals so when do the full reboot when Kobe's deal is done. Now if we go after some of the younger RFA's like Bledsoe or Monroe we'd have to sign them for longer and I'm good with that.

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117. "Jodie Gone (Woj Bomb)"
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https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/484076537772122112

Jodie Meeks has agreed to a three-year, $19 million-plus contract with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

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122. "looks like Hollins to the Nets is a done deal and we STILL don't have a...."
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coach

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123. "damn, that was who i wanted"
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124. "Goddamn it...we took too fucking long"
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Smfh

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125. "we obviously didn't want hollins"
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Or we would have offered him the job.

  

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126. "well i guess we don't want anybody"
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128. "Basically"
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I'm really starting to lose faith in Jim Buss man....this is the most important hire he'll make since he took over the team and he hasn't handled it well at all.

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131. "RE: Basically"
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>I'm really starting to lose faith in Jim Buss man....this is
>the most important hire he'll make since he took over the team
>and he hasn't handled it well at all.

Well he already blew it when they brought in D'Antoni to coach Dwight

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133. "they've been bad with their hires for awhile(obviously other than Phil)"
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Not hard to come up with Phil Jackson as a guy to offer the job to. But besides Phil the last 3 hires were: Rudy T, Mike Brown, and D'antoni.

  

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132. "I mean if there are people who wanted Hollins over B.Scott"
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that's cool...they may be bothered by this...

but if B.Scott has been the front runner from jump..which it seems pretty obvious he has been...then the Lakers didn't lose out on Hollins..

they weren't going to hire him anyway because if they were going to...they would have..

I have wanted B. to get the job from jump (once I realized billy Donovan was staying in college)...

I would submit that considering where he started with both New Jersey and New Orleans...and taking both to places they had not gone before or sense (with the sense part being important because both places thought they were going to be even better w/o B and neither team has been as good as they were with him sense)... I would argue that doing that in those to places trumps the accomplishments of ANY of the guys who were up for the job including Lionel Hollins..

B being a former Laker was just gravy... what he did to turn around 2 different teams and take them a place they ain't been since makes him the #1 choice for the Lakers and nothing has changed that.

as I mentioned in another post.... there is a reason for waiting on the hire....it's all conjecture but there is a line of thinking that particularly in recruiting Melo..it's a plus because part of the meeting with him tomorrow is checking off on their coaching choice BEFORE it happens...that's empowering for a star player...

but until we find out the actual reason for the wait beyond conjecture....I'll hold off judgement.

to me the best guy for the job has been B.Scott from jump

  

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130. "so now Mitch gets to play hardball with Byron's agent since he's the..."
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only legit option out there, Byron may ask for big money or some front office "say", then what is Mitch going to do? Dig up Dumbleavy or Rambis or the corpses of Sloan or Adelman?

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127. "smh. And not because of Hollins."
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129. "Now we bout to settle for a coach that most Laker fans wouldn't want"
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at all if he had never been a Laker smh

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134. "let. kobe. coach."
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136. "La La on LA (swipe)"
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http://nypost.com/2014/01/28/la-la-anthony-reveals-in-book-garnett-didnt-say-cheerios/

But in one potential foreshadow, LaLa reveals their first real date occurred in Southern California where she was filming.

The couple have a place in Los Angeles and reports have Anthony considering the Lakers or Clippers this summer.

“I also knew that if I ever bought a house, it would probably be in L.A.,’’ she wrote. “It’s so different from New York and Atlanta. L.A. is like my chill place. I can be laid-back and relaxed there. I also could see myself eventually settling there, like my retirement spot.’’

The book also revealed some intimate details of the couple’s private life. Their son, Kiyan, when he was 2, had an emergency six-hour surgery on an ailing kidney. According to the book, Kiyan, now 6, occasionally gets bothered at school for the Knicks’ poor play.

La La wrote: “ came home one afternoon and asked me, ‘Mom why do they hate Dad? Some Kids at school said, Your dad sucks.’ ”


  

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137. "LOL "
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138. "Am I the only one thinking Bosh is a better fit for the Lakers"
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than Carmelo? I'd be willing to pay him 18-20 for 4 years over Melo.

  

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139. "U Laker fans..."
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r some of the most optimistic sports heads EVER....lol

That's something I wish I had as a Bulls/Bears/Cubs fan...I'm pessimistic as fuck...No bullshit...

Think about it....

Your franchise is being ran by the father's son who, according to all reports and dealings with dude, is well over his head...

You re-sign your aging face of the franchise to one of the silliest contract extensions ever done in a salary cap league...And he doesn't know that he is well into his decline...

Pau is on his way out the door to either San Antonio or OKC...

Missing out on quality coaches...

And will have a tough time bringing a superstar player over as long as Bean still thinks he's the no. 1 option...

I really want what y'all r drinking, sniffin', shooting up, what ever...It would make my life much easier as a Chi sports fan...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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140. ""
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The Lakers have always managed to pull out a rabbit and make shit happen, so we’re just flat out used to success.

Right now, we’ve got some solid assets to go along with that twenty four million dollar albatross, but we’re clearly in a position where free agents aren’t beating down our door to take our money and that’s troubling. Buss is gone, our coaching situation is an absolute mess, Kobe's too domineering, and we don't have enough cap space to woo the big names at the money they're worth and build around them. So... I dunno about anyone else, but I'm nervous as fuck.

To that end, I’d say our optimism is extremely cautious right now, for the short term. Our long term optimism is based on long term history of things just working out in our favor, and we’ll keep it until we’re stuck in a ten year rut like NY or Boston or Chicago went through.

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142. ""
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History is for museums...I've learned that as a Bulls fan....

I think you are about to find that out as a Lakers fan...

And this is no snark...I've had my shit talk to say about Kobe, but never about the Lakers franchise...They were always the team that was easy to cheer for during those Magic/Cap/Coop days....

And even when it was easy to hate Kobe's deranged ass I never had hate for the Lake Show given Feel was pulling the strings and Shaq was killing shit on the other side (I never felt like the Bulls had a rivalry with the Lakers being that we were in the Central...)

I'm looking at this as a sports fan...I'm amazed that you guys (Lakers fans) are not running around like u r on fire...Because the way your franchise is being ran is nuts...

Y'all got a good draft pick, though...Hopefully u can get Kobe to retire early, get Jeanie Buss to run the team, find a real coach, move on and try to turn the page...Because this has disaster written all over it, especially being that u guys r playing in the West...

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143. "This response reads like you didn't read past the header."
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-Sig-

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146. "RE: This response reads like you didn't read past the header."
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I did...My points on your team really come down to one thing: the person running the show for your team is incompetent...

It doesn't matter what kind of assets you have, money you have or if teams will be running to wear that Purple & Gold...

As long as No. 1 Son is running your team you can connect the dots homie...

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148. ""
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It’s impossible based on your response.

Because your responses read like you never read a single word pertaining to how I’m pretty nervous, about how we don’t have enough to offer max guys max money and add pieces around them, or how messy our coaching situation is, or how Kobe is too domineering.

You literally ignored the vast majority of the post and keep responding as though all you read was the header. If you had actually read, understood, and considered the following:

“The Lakers have always managed to pull out a rabbit and make shit happen, so we’re just flat out used to success.

Right now, we’ve got some solid assets to go along with that twenty four million dollar albatross, but we’re clearly in a position where free agents aren’t beating down our door to take our money and that’s troubling. Buss is gone, our coaching situation is an absolute mess, Kobe's too domineering, and we don't have enough cap space to woo the big names at the money they're worth and build around them. So... I dunno about anyone else, but I'm nervous as fuck.

To that end, I’d say our optimism is extremely cautious right now, for the short term.“

There’s no way you would respond with such emphasis on history. Considering you asked what makes us so optimistic and my answer to that question was essentially that we’ve always managed to find a way and thus have no long term history of failure to color that optimism, your focus on the history aspect is a little strange given the context it was presented in. I spoke of good history driving our current optimism, and then spoke about how the present isn’t looking so hot, and how we’ve got some solid assets but nobody is beating down our door to get it.

Basically, your response indicates that you didn’t paid any attention to anything I wrote after the header.

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150. "we are optimistic because"
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the team has been able to make shit happen when things didn't look so good.

this is new territory dealing with Dr. Buss not being here and hoping his son can get shit together, but that don't mean we're gonna run for the hills.

I do wish this coaching question was answered by now. not a good look to keep stringing this out.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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144. "Bulls fans should look at history as being in a museum..."
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they only had 1 run really.. (with a pause in between for Mike playing baseball..but still basically the same cast for the 2nd three peat)

the Lakers on the other hand have had MULTIPLE runs....with different casts...

we kinetic energy....

we keeps it moving..

  

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145. "your history is a lot different, though"
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i've already seen 2 championship rebuilds in my lifetime, you guys have seen 0

  

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141. "not all Laker fans are optimisitc...."
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I find a lot now that are unreasonably worrisome ...maybe that's because of nerves....or maybe the constant chatter of Laker haters and the anti-Laker media has impacted their psyche....

but for the most part we do come across as optimistic...

I think it's more REALISTIC...than optimistic....

We always come back....one era ends... very short rebuilding process...then we are back.... its been that way for decades....

it's not something you have to wish and hope about...the shit has always happened....and you know it will happen again..


Laker Haters are mad because all the conjecture they are spewing is just that ..conjecture..and HOPE..hope that the Lakers will fall off..

just in your post...

You don't know what Gasol is gonna do?? You HOPE he might be out the door....you think he may be out the door...but nobody knows shit until it actually happens.... So Laker fans are optimistic because they don't believe as fact some shit that you HOPE happens???

lol..

naw...

  

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147. "RE: not all Laker fans are optimisitc...."
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I think the common theme for all that winning during the dynasty years was one visionary: Dr. Jerry Buss...

Again, I'm not on some Laker hater shit...I find most of the hate towards Lakers have been on the jealously side of things...

But I do know a cluster fuck waiting to happen when I see one...And the person that is pulling the strings right now is/will be the main cause of it...

But really I'm going to go back to my original point...I want what y'all r drinking...My miserable ass is checking Twitter every fucking sec. trying to see if My Bulls can make shit happen...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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149. "We've had like 4 losing seasons in the last 40 yrs, we've won 10 titles...."
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during that time, with a track record like that we're used to bouncing back.

We're just a few years removed from back-to-back titles so its not like we're one of those teams that goes 10+ years between playoff appearances.

People said it was over when Magic retired, then it was supposed to be over when Shaq left, now that Kobe is nearing the end of his career the naysayers are trying to dance on the Lakers grave once again, they'll never learn, lol.

Obviously we're in rebuilding mode right now, but we're confident we'll be back in the playoffs this year, and back to being legit contenders in another 2-3 years.

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153. "RE: We've had like 4 losing seasons in the last 40 yrs, we've won 10 tit..."
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>during that time, with a track record like that we're used to
>bouncing back.
>
>We're just a few years removed from back-to-back titles so its
>not like we're one of those teams that goes 10+ years between
>playoff appearances.
>
>People said it was over when Magic retired, then it was
>supposed to be over when Shaq left, now that Kobe is nearing
>the end of his career the naysayers are trying to dance on the
>Lakers grave once again, they'll never learn, lol.
>
>Obviously we're in rebuilding mode right now, but we're
>confident we'll be back in the playoffs this year, and back to
>being legit contenders in another 2-3 years.

This year? Back in the playoffs? In the West?...U guys are ride or die...lol

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151. "there's no reason to not be optimistic."
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154. "Cheese Eyes made $30 mill his final season. GTFOH."
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If you didn't cry about Jordan then don't whine about GOAT.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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155. "on a contender that won the championship"
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If the Lakers were a title contender right now, nobody would have a problem with Kobe making $25 mill.

  

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157. "because the Lakers win all the damn time"
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no Laker fan can ever be upset without sounding like a whiney bitch. who cares if the Lakers are meh for a few years here and there? most teams are forever meh.

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156. "so supposedly we offered Carmello a max deal.."
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4 years 97million...

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-carmelo-anthony-to-receive-four-year-max-offer-from-team/2014/07/03/

The Los Angeles Lakers finally got their chance to meet with Carmelo Anthony today, and Kobe Bryant will meet up with him later tonight after failing to get back to Los Angeles in time.

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Despite Bryant not being there, the Lakers are expected to offer Anthony a four year max deal acording to ESPN’s Ramona Shelburne:



This is no surprise at all as the Lakers were fully expected to offer Anthony the maximum amount possible. The only team so far that has said they wouldn’t offer him a max deal is the Dallas Mavericks.

The Lakers went all out in their presentation to Anthony. Jeanie Buss led a contingent that included brother Jim, general manager Mitch Kupchak, and even Hall of Famer James Worthy. The Lakers also showed a ‘Hollywood Presentation’ from Joel Silver, producer of ‘The Matrix.’

Anthony represents the Lakers’ best chance at quickly re-building the team into a championship contender. With him in town, the Lakers would try and bring back Pau Gasol and create their own Big Three in Los Angeles.

Anthony is now likely to take the weekend to think over all of his options. After meeting with the Houston Rockets, Dallas Mavericks, Chicago Bulls, and New York Knicks this week, Anthony has a lot to think about.

The Lakers have been viewed as a longshot throughout this process. Hopefully they have done enough to sway Anthony, and this max deal will help matters.
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158. "so this is what its resorted to?"
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bringing in hollywood execs to pitch free agents on how they love laker players?

wow.

between that and this repot that i saw yesterday ""List of players #Lakers have reached out today: Josh McRoberts, Caron Butler, Chris Kaman, Wesley Johnson, Jordan Farmar and Xavier Henry."

its a sad state of affairs in el segundo these days

  

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159. "If Melo signs here..."
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We have Kobe for 23.5, Melo for about the same, Randle for about 3, Sacre for 1. That's 51 committed for 4 players. That leaves only 12 mil to dole out for 8 more players. Unless they're structuring Melo's deal to go way up once Kobe's contract is done, I don't get it.

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160. "you forgot about Nash"
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161. "I did, but I'm assuming they'd have to stretch him. Still thats 3 more."
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162. "what I'm hearing they offered him the Maxx.."
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but also presented scenarios to him that would allow them to go after other players....

  

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163. "I just wonder who though"
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In a market where IT2 is being offered $8 per, we just can't afford quality starters at the C and PG positions, so why would Melo come? Sure, getting players like Kaman, etc. would be fine for the bench but we need to put out 5 quality starting players. Right now its like

Sacre - just...you know, out of necessity.
Randle - and this is assuming Randle is as good as advertised
Melo
Kobe
Nash

That's garbage. Unless Melo's deal allows us to resign Pau or Jordan Hill and a PG, I just don't understand Mitch's plan here.

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164. "they'll let Nash go just to save the 3 million"
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we could probably bring back the following from last year... Xavier...Swag...Hill....Johnson....Bazemore...


there are a couple of point guards out there who we could make work for a year or so.... Blake and Farmar would be included in that..

but trust me..if we have both Kobe and Melo...guys will be flexible with deals to come here...we may even have to sign a couple guys for 3 years with low numbers the first 2 and higher on the 3rd..but we could work that out also..

it's all doable...

  

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165. "Melo pulling off from the meeting..."
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http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:11174309

looks in good spirits..cool of him to sign the stuff for those fans..

  

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166. "FWIW.... Bill Simmons says Lakers made "major" impact on"
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Carmello..

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-rumors-team-in-legit-three-way-battle-to-sign-carmelo-anthony/2014/07/05/

  

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167. "so if he accepts whats the best deal bron can be offered?"
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168. "Not nearly enough...only way to get both is for them to both take less"
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169. "I'm ok with getting Melo and keeping Pau at a big pay cut. "
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I'm also OK with keeping Kendall as our point going forward with that team, but part of me wonders if it wouldn't be better to spread our money around a little more. I'd rather have Love next year or (shit... AND, possibly) Durant the year after than tie up all our money with Melo. Basically, I'd rather hold on to our cap room unless we sign anyone short of Lebron.

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170. "Lakers emerge as threat to land Melo (swipe)"
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http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11180212/los-angeles-lakers-emerges-top-threat-keep-carmelo-anthony-re-signing-new-york-knicks


In a surprising twist, the Los Angeles Lakers have emerged as the team that most worries the New York Knicks in their attempt to re-sign superstar free-agent forward Carmelo Anthony, sources with knowledge of the situation told ESPN.

The Lakers' pitch -- of teaming Anthony with Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol and prized rookie Julius Randle on a team with no long-term salary obligations -- made what one source described as a "strong impression" on Anthony and has made his decision over the holiday weekend "tough," according to another source close to the situation.

Los Angeles met with LeBron James' agent, Rich Paul, on Friday, and the four-time MVP is giving similar consideration to what the Lakers have to offer, according to sources.

Gasol has emerged as a key selling point for the Lakers. While the Spaniard has been listening to pitches from championship contenders who lack much financial flexibility, such as Oklahoma City, San Antonio, Miami and Chicago, sources believe he would quickly re-sign with the Lakers if they are able to land Anthony or James.

ESPN reported Thursday that the Lakers made it clear to Anthony, who is living and training in L.A. this summer, they'd offer him the maximum four-year, $97 million contract they can, if he were to choose them. That's less than the five-year, $129 million offer the Knicks have verbally pitched to Anthony. The Lakers also made it clear to James they'd offer him the maximum they could, sources said.

However, there are also scenarios in which both James and Anthony could come to the Lakers if each was willing to play for around $16 million per season, especially if the Heat and Knicks were willing to work a sign-and-trade with them.



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Bruce Bennett/Getty ImagesSources say that Carmelo Anthony's respect for Kobe Bryant could "put the Lakers over the top" in their pursuit of Melo.
Bryant wasn't able to make it to the Lakers' pitch meeting with Anthony on Thursday after it was moved up by several hours. He was still in the air from his flight home from a family vacation as the meeting was taking place. However, sources said the two superstars have been in constant communication this summer, and there is some sentiment Anthony's respect for Bryant could ultimately "put the Lakers over the top."

The shift in Anthony's thinking was first reported by Grantland's Bill Simmons on Saturday on Twitter.

ESPN.com's Marc Stein reported last week that the Knicks' confidence in re-signing Anthony was strong as he began his cross-country, free-agent recruiting tour through Chicago, Houston, Dallas and Los Angeles.

It was widely assumed the Bulls pose the strongest challenge to the Knicks for Anthony, but that has shifted over the weekend, sources said. The Bulls do not currently have the ability to offer Anthony a maximum contract.

  

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171. "so Kobe and Carmello worked out at UCLA today..(swipe)"
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http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-kobe-carmelo-love-scrimmage-ucla-20140706-story.html?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+latimes%2Fsports%2Fbasketball%2Fnba%2Flakers+(Lakers+Now)

as the Lakers eagerly wait for Carmelo Anthony to decide with whom he'll sign for next season, Kobe Bryant and Anthony apparently worked out together on Sunday at UCLA..

Bryant and Anthony would be teammates next season if the All-Star forward chooses the Lakers over the New York Knicks and other suitors.

According to the Twitter feed of David Grace, Bruins assistant men's basketball coach, "Carmelo Anthony, Kobe Bryant and Kevin Love here at UCLA playing pick up!!! That's what happens here at UCLA!!!"

Love is under contract with the Minnesota Timberwolves but is believed to be on the trading block. The All-Star power forward can opt out of his contract with the Timberwolves before next summer.

The Lakers met with Anthony on Thursday. He also recently visited with the Chicago Bulls, Dallas Mavericks and Houston Rockets.

Josh Rebholz, UCLA's senior associate athletic director for external relations, also said on Twitter that Bryant, Anthony and Love were all on campus Sunday. Rebholz later deleted his tweet.

Anthony may not have made up his mind yet, but Bryant has long lobbied the high-scoring forward to join the Lakers.

Email Eric Pincus at eric.pincus@gmail.com and follow him on Twitter @EricPincus.

  

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172. "NBA Legion Tweets...."
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NBA Legion @MySportsLegion · 5m

ESPN reports there is a "strong" possibility that LeBron and Melo join Kobe in LA.

  

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173. "LOL, come on."
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no way.

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174. "Well that sounds reliable."
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175. "Jordan Farmar to the Clippers (swipe)"
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I know the Lakers were hoping either Farmar or Collison would wait a couple more days...but I can't be mad at either one of them...they got to go get their money...


http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11183624/jordan-farmar-los-angeles-clippers-agree-two-year-deal-according-sources

LOS ANGELES -- The Los Angeles Clippers didn't waste much time replacing backup point guard Darren Collison, agreeing to a two-year deal with Jordan Farmar on Sunday, sources confirmed.

Clippers coach and president of basketball operations Doc Rivers met with Farmar in person last week to recruit him even before Darren Collison left the Clippers to sign with the Sacramento Kings. The Lakers expressed interest in retaining Farmar as well, but were reluctant to talk contract terms until their pursuit of LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony had come to a conclusion.

"They didn't want to commit to me," Farmar told ESPNLosAngeles.com during a phone interview Sunday. "I understood the situation with them, what was going on and would I be willing to wait. What am I waiting for? There was no real definitive answer. It was, 'Yeah, we like you, we'd love to have you here,' but I didn't know what I was waiting for. You don't know who the coach is. You don't know who I am going to be playing with. They made no commitment to me on that part."

The Los Angeles Times was the first to report the deal.

Farmar's two-year, $4.2 million deal with the Clippers includes a player option in the second year, sources said. The Clippers used their biannual exception for the deal after Collison agreed to join the Kings on Thursday for a three-year, $16 million deal.

" came the hardest basketball-wise; it's probably the best situation situation out there for me," Farmar said. "I turned down more money elsewhere. I get to stay home in L.A. and play for a contender, which is important to me."

Teams can't officially sign free agents until the NBA's moratorium on deals is lifted July 10.

Farmar, 27, averaged 10.1 points, 4.9 assist and 2.5 rebounds last season for the Los Angeles Lakers after playing the previous season in Turkey. He also shot 43.8 percent from 3-point range but was sidelined for 41 games as he dealt with a variety of injuries.

Farmar and Collison were teammates at UCLA during the 2005-06 season when the Bruins lost to Florida in the national championship game.

Farmar continues the trend of former Lakers players signing on with their Staples Center cohabitants in recent seasons, joining the likes of Matt Barnes, Lamar Odom, Caron Butler and Ronny Turiaf.

"I'm sure it's going to probably be pretty different for me, but we'll see," Farmar said about playing for the opposite side of the budding L.A. rivalry. "Hopefully my real fans, they don't have to cheer for the Clippers, but support me wherever I go and that's all it is. I'll always have a special place for the Lakers in my heart, but it wasn't in the cards for me this time."

Farmar said he was not terribly concerned about the pending sale of the Clippers from the Sterling family to former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer and potentially having to suit up for the team while Donald Sterling was still the owner.

"I think that will take care of itself," Farmar said.

The seven-year veteran, who left millions of dollars of guaranteed money on the table in Turkey to return to play for the Lakers last season, expressed gratitude toward the purple and gold even if he won't be playing for them any longer.

"I thank the Lakers organization, Lakers fans, Lakers nation, for all the great times we had," Farmar said. "For giving me the opportunity to get back and be able to play at home again. I wish them nothing but the best. I'm sure they should be successful in the future, but I'm just excited about this next chapter in my career and the chance to compete for a championship."

  

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176. "Incarcerated Bob tweets"
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Incarcerated Bob IBN @incarceratedbob · 28m

**BREAKING NBA NEWS** Carmelo Anthony will reportedly sign with LA Lakers according to sources close to the situation. He's not leaving LA

  

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179. "Good to know. Now we can focus on who to overpay for the next two years...."
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177. "Ok let's look at this thing objectively..."
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Say we DO sign Melo...

What's the team going to look like going forward?

Supposedly Gasol with definitely be back if we sign Carmelo, so that will give us a lineup looking something like...

C - Pau
PF - Randle?
SF - Carmelo
SG - Kobe
PG - Marshall/Nash?

I don't think even Thibs could make a decent defense out of that lineup...

What can we add?

I suppose we could bring back Jordan Hill to back up the 4-5 spots or possibly start if Randle is not ready...

Would Ariza be willing to give us a "LA discount" to come back and give us some much needed perimeter D?

I'm not really a Nick Young fan but I guess we need somebody to back up Kobe even if he is 100% we don't need him playing almost 40 minutes a night like that idiot D'Antoni had him doing...

What else?

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178. "I think if Melo & Gasol are here Nash is likely gone?"
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Either way.. I hope we bring back Jordan Hill. And we need a few perimeter defenders for sure..


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180. "kobe speaks (swipe)"
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http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-kobe-bryant-lakers-approach-20140709-story.html



July 9, 2014, 6:18 PM



Even as a report suggested that Carmelo Anthony would return to the New York Knicks instead of joining the Lakers, Kobe Bryant firmly supported his team’s bid to snag a superstar in free agency..

“Look, they’re going for it,” Bryant told reporters Wednesday in Santa Barbara at a basketball
camp he hosts each summer. “I mean, there’s no ifs, ands or buts about it, man. They’re being extremely aggressive and they have solid concepts and plans to be able to get it done and they’re pulling out all the stops to ensure that we put a contender on the floor next year, and that’s all you can ask for.”

The Lakers just slogged through their worst season since moving to Los Angeles and have a roster with only Bryant and a handful of other players under contract for next season, but Bryant outlined three selling points he used last week in his sales pitch to Anthony: the market, the team’s 16 championships and financial flexibility that will improve drastically once Bryant’s contract expires in two years.

“I just shared with him the experiences that I had playing here in Los Angeles, how I feel like it could be very beneficial to him and his family and his legacy going forward,” Bryant said. “I mean, this is a legacy-defining moment. This is the decision.”

Bryant said he didn’t have any inside information on Anthony’s choice a few hours after a New York Daily News report stated that the small forward would re-sign with the Knicks on Thursday.

“Everybody’s here to read tea leaves,” Bryant said. “I don’t really know much to tell you. I don’t have any new information, information you guys probably don’t know. You guys will probably know before I do.”

Bryant acknowledged he had “really clicked” with Anthony since they were teammates at the 2008 Olympics and described Anthony as “very receptive” to his pitch but scoffed at a report that they had played in a pickup game last weekend at UCLA. Bryant said he was in Orange County at the time.

“It seems like if I want to get an accurate sports source now,” Bryant quipped, “I have to go to TMZ.”

Bryant seemed to suggest he would be OK if the Lakers struck out in their attempts to land a high-end free agent because they had set out to re-establish a championship core

“The organization, if God forbid we end up with absolutely nothing, it’s not for a lack of effort,” Bryant said. “That’s something that I would be extremely proud of. You put forth the effort, you gave it your best shot … what can you do, right? So you just go from there and then it’s on me to go out there and do my best and try to help us win.”

Does Bryant have a Plan B if the Lakers’ top targets go elsewhere?

“We have several options,” he said. “Obviously, depending on the timing of this process, it affects some of those. You have a plan that’s flexible, a Plan A and a Plan B, but some of the Plan B is affected by the timing of Plan A. … You wind up seeing these things happen where we’re kind of behind a little bit, but it’s worth the wait.”

What about sitting through another rebuilding year?


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“I’ve never had patience, so why would I start now?” Bryant said. “But you do what you have to do.”

Bryant lauded the efforts of team executives Jim and Jeanie Buss, saying they were “on the same page. They’re ready to go. They both understand what they need to do individually and how that works together as a unit in turning this organization around. I think you’ll see some changes that really fall in line with the history and the culture of the organization — seeing James at the draft and so forth and so on.”

The Lakers are still without a coach, but Bryant gave Byron Scott a thumbs-up for the job, calling his former teammate his “rookie mentor” who made Bryant fetch donuts and run other errands as a young player.

“We’ve had a tremendously close relationship throughout the years,” Bryant said. “So obviously I know him extremely well, he knows me extremely well and I’ve always been a fan of his.”

One issue Bryant apparently has put behind him is the injuries that have limited him to six games over the last 15 months. He said he weighed 218 pounds, which is normal for late in a season when he had leaned down.

“Physically, I feel great,” Bryant said. “I mean, I don’t think about the knee at all when I train. I don’t think about the Achilles’ at all when I train. I feel sharp, crisp. Now it’s just time to add on from there.”

Copyright © 2014, Los Angeles Times

  

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181. "lulz"
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>Bryant outlined three selling points he used last week in his
>sales pitch to Anthony:
>
>the financial flexibility that will improve
>drastically once Bryant’s contract expires in two years.

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182. "lulzlolololololulz"
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183. "now that, my friend, is comedy."
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189. "*shrugs*"
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Kobe's contract didn't really prevent us from doing anything..

It's clear LeBron wasn't going to pick any destination over Cleveland so that Bron + another player meme can die now.

Melo is choosing between cash(NY) or trying to get a ring(CHI) and LA wasn't in a better position than either of those team in those respective categories.

Bosh took the max deal the same as Melo is likely to take so..

Fill out the roster with short term deals, stack picks, try again before the trade deadline or next year.

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201. "cmon."
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i just like the idea that part of his pitch to prospective fagents is hey, we'll be in a great position to do some things once my terrible contract comes off the ledger.

if you can't see the funny in that, you're taking things too seriously.

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235. "I don't think we had a legit shot at any of the top FAs"
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regardless of his contract is my only point..
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184. "Swaggy P and Jordan Hill back...."
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at reasonable tickets too...

You get either Lance Stevenson or Ariza and we more than straight....

I'm actually cool on us signing and trading Pau.....get back some pieces we can either flip or keep..... go out and get birdman and use them and Hill at Center for a season....


but Ariza or Lance at a good ticket is the move

  

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185. "Jeremy L too?"
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186. "so Wojo sayin a sign and trade with Pau is in the works..."
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only way Boozer is involved would have to mean a 3rd team is involved...

pretty sure nobody is gonna take Nash back in a trade..so we gonna have to release and stretch him..

either way unless it's we're getting back a McBuckets or Gibson... I'd prefer a an extra pick...

maybe they'd make the Lin Deal part of this, ...and w/o bosh I guess the Rockets could use Boozer..but I don't see them having anything beyond Lin we could use...

  

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187. "Yeah I'm still trying to figure out what we are getting back"
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190. "RE: Yeah I'm still trying to figure out what we are getting back"
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Dunleavy

It'd be nice for la to also get snell or a pick but seems like all non guaranteeds.

Who the hell is gonna coach the team?

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191. "Figures, that's a Mitch type of guy..."
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>Dunleavy
>
>It'd be nice for la to also get snell or a pick but seems like
>all non guaranteeds.
>
>Who the hell is gonna coach the team?

it's so fucking stupid that their putting a fucking team together and don't have a coach, even if a coach doesn't have say in personnel decisions it's nice for the coach and GM to be on the same page and to let the coach have some input to get guys that fit his style and coaching philosophy instead of trying to force square pegs in round holes, we've already done that with the last 2 coaches and it hasn't worked.

If Byron is the guy then what's the hold up? This whole arrogant ass "we're on our own timetable" shit is stupid.

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196. "That shit is bizarre"
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Me and my boys were trying to figure out who else is out there. Its clear to me they dont really want Byron which makes sense. I love Byron as a player. My favorite laker, and my 1st favorite player ever- he's a solid coach, but not phenomenal.

imo hes better off as an assistant.

My guess is Mitch is waiting on something, but what.

Any coach he could poach from the college ranks is tied up.

is he trying to poach somebody's lead assistant?

To me thats the move. Finding an established lead assistant from a team like the Spurs (too bad they lost 2 last season and letting him grow with a young team.)

Unfortunately that isnt the Laker m.o when hiring coaches. Due to the fanbase and the tradition of winning it probably has to be some retread--even if its Dumbleavy or someone like that.

>>Dunleavy
>>
>>It'd be nice for la to also get snell or a pick but seems
>like
>>all non guaranteeds.
>>
>>Who the hell is gonna coach the team?
>
>it's so fucking stupid that their putting a fucking team
>together and don't have a coach, even if a coach doesn't have
>say in personnel decisions it's nice for the coach and GM to
>be on the same page and to let the coach have some input to
>get guys that fit his style and coaching philosophy instead of
>trying to force square pegs in round holes, we've already done
>that with the last 2 coaches and it hasn't worked.
>
>If Byron is the guy then what's the hold up? This whole
>arrogant ass "we're on our own timetable" shit is stupid.
>

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188. "RE: so Wojo sayin a sign and trade with Pau is in the works..."
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LOL...y'all ain't getting Gibson or Buckets...

Most likely it's either Dunlevy, Snell and a pick or Boozer....

Hopefully this Pau deal isn't the Bulls only offseason move (been reading that we have been speaking to Crazy Ass Lance's people just in case Melo falls through...I wouldn't mind that given the circumstances....)...That would give us the second play maker we desperately need...

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192. "Picks and young players please. No Boozer. "
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193. "Hello my friendzzzzz!"
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http://instagram.com/p/qaJUoDuP94/?modal=true


We I mean you should sign Andray Blatche to a 1-2 year deal to shore up both bigs spots off the bench.

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194. "The pick fropm the Rockets is top 14 protected"
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Unless the rockets have a complete meltdown, that should be a 1st rd pick to make up for the one that was sent to Phx

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195. "Alright. Now hoping for a pick from the Bulls for Pau."
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Going full rebuild. It's a bummer but it is what it is.

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197. "Link?"
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Everything I've read the last couple days says sign and trade talks failed

  

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198. "No link. I thought the Mirotic deal meant a possible S&T"
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So we'll see.

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199. "i think a pau S&T is still on the table."
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they've got till wednesday to amnesty boozer, i'd assume they'll leave no stone unturned and work that one down to the last minute. no reason not to.

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200. "sweet"
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202. "y'all still need a coach, right?"
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a-griff is 3-0 in LVSL. just saying.

holla @ the kid.

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203. "I like the Ed Davis signing...."
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He and Jordan Hill will do fine at Center.....

I'm hoping that Trey Thompkins off the summer league squad is gonna get a chance to beat out Sacre too.... that will give us a solid set of long athletic bigs who can finish at the basket....and block shots...

  

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204. "Ed Davis, at that value especially, is off the charts "
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This dude was showing so much promise in Toronto, got relegated to the bench due to being a new player + serious front-court depth...I love this move going forward.

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205. "good pick up."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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ball is in Ed's court now tho

  

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207. "Boozer gives us some nice depth now at the 4 and 5"
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Hill....Davis....Randle...Boozer.... hopefully Thompkins instead of Sacre...

I'll take it...

  

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217. "Booz & Davis are decent pickups for the price.."
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If you can't get the big time players make sure you don't overpay for the complimentary players...
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208. "so a reason for waiting to hire B.Scott is coming out..."
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So Dan Gilbert has still been paying B. Scott for the money he's owed after he was fired...

when we hire B.... Gilbert doesn't have to write B anymore checks..

by the Lakers waiting to hire him, they are sticking it to Gilbert for writing that letter to David Stern crying about us getting Chris Paul...

These multiple "interviews" B is having are really just getting his feedback and input on the roster they are putting together because the Lakers have not "interviewed" or contacted any other candidates in weeks..

actually kind of a shrewed move

  

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211. "What?"
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>So Dan Gilbert has still been paying B. Scott for the money
>he's owed after he was fired...
>
>when we hire B.... Gilbert doesn't have to write B anymore
>checks..
>
>by the Lakers waiting to hire him, they are sticking it to
>Gilbert for writing that letter to David Stern crying about us
>getting Chris Paul...
>
>These multiple "interviews" B is having are really just
>getting his feedback and input on the roster they are putting
>together because the Lakers have not "interviewed" or
>contacted any other candidates in weeks..
>
>actually kind of a shrewed move

I'm pretty sure Gilbert isn't paying Scott on a weekly basis, what difference does a month or so make? Or are they playing on dragging this out to October?

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213. "lulz"
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good lord

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215. "I really want this to be true"
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216. "hahaha.... datgudhate"
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212. "Welp, guess I have to keep the avi one more season. "
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-Sig-

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Warren Coolidge
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220. "so we bringing back Xavier...and we released Marshall"
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like both moves...

sending Marshall on his way tells me they are more than satisfied with Clarkson...

bringing back Xavier at the league minimum is also a solid move...X may even start at SF...

So as of now our numbers look like this...

PG-Lin
PG- Clarkson

SG- Kobe
SG- Young

SF- Henry
SF- Kelly*(not signed yet)

PF- Randle
PF- Boozer

C- Hill
C- Davis

That's 10 guys... (assuming Kelly re-signs)....

of course we still have Nash and Sacre....

my wish for those 2 is for us to cut Nash and stretch his contract out.... and for Sacre to get beaten out by Trey Thompkins.

So Thompkins would give us 11 guys....

that would give us 2 or 3 spots to fill...

1 of those spots I'd like us to sign one of the following guys.... Al-Farook Amini......Earl Clark.....or Michael Beasley..

that would give us 12 guys....We're going to need another guard who could pay the point to be our 3rd string pg... for the minimum...

that would give us 13... we could go 14 maybe....and a big maybe by keeping Sacre around....

  

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221. "definitely wanted Xavier back..."
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222. "Nah. At this point they need to hang on to Nash until the deadline "
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At a minimum.

His expiring could fetch something decent, or we just let the money come off the books. We all saw how having his money on the books came back to haunt us, and IMO there's no sense in having that extra 3 mill chewing up cap space that could be applied to actual players while he's chilling and collecting. Why paint ourselves into another corner, even a small one?

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236. "Nash can't play anymore... if he could....you could keep him"
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but he simply cannot play... nerve root pain for a 40 year old is not something that gets better to the point where it will allow you to play NBA basketball...

  

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237. "What does that have to do with not wanting to pay him for two extra year..."
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This has zero to do with whether or not he can play. We all know he's done. He'll still wind up taking Lin's minutes as a backup though, and even if he doesn't, the issue is that his CONTRACT, not him as a player, but his actual contract, can either be a trade asset at the deadline or simply come off the books at the end of the season. There's absolutely no sane reason to pay him 3 mil a year for two more years.

As we see, 3 million dollars in cap space can pay two, even three players to round out a bench or become that extra inch needed to sign a quality contributor.

Why, exactly, is it a good idea to pay him that three million dollars instead of saving that money for assets that can actually contribute?

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Warren Coolidge
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239. "Steve Nash can't play anymore....literally...he's not taking minutes"
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>This has zero to do with whether or not he can play. We all
>know he's done. He'll still wind up taking Lin's minutes as a
>backup though, and even if he doesn't, the issue is that his
>CONTRACT, not him as a player, but his actual contract, can
>either be a trade asset at the deadline or simply come off the
>books at the end of the season. There's absolutely no sane
>reason to pay him 3 mil a year for two more years.

from anyone because he can't play...

the issue isn't his contract.....the Lakers traded for him and thus have to deal with the consequences...

but what makes that horrible deal even worse...would be if Nash utilizes a roster spot that could be used by someone who can actually still play basketball...

THAT is the issue.... not his contract..but his place on a roster.





>
>As we see, 3 million dollars in cap space can pay two, even
>three players to round out a bench or become that extra inch
>needed to sign a quality contributor.
>
>Why, exactly, is it a good idea to pay him that three million
>dollars instead of saving that money for assets that can
>actually contribute?

Why is it a good idea to pay ANYTHING to someone who cannot play, when you could soften your loses by paying someone else to have the roster spot who can play?

  

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246. "So, again, you want to pay Nash next year and the year after. "
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>the issue isn't his contract.....the Lakers traded for him and
>thus have to deal with the consequences...

I didn't say the issue was his contract. It becomes an issue if they allow his contract to drain 3 mil the next two years without bringing in an impact player for that cost. Further, that contract has the ability to either help bring in a good player at the deadline, or by helping clear space next summer for another crack at free agency.

>but what makes that horrible deal even worse...would be if
>Nash utilizes a roster spot that could be used by someone who
>can actually still play basketball...
>
>THAT is the issue.... not his contract..but his place on a
>roster.

Yeah, I'm not harping on his contract. Are you even reading what I'm saying? What would make a horrible deal worse is by extending that horrible deal out for two more years. It's better to take the full hit this year instead of dragging it out for two extra years, unless we bring in a significant player for that cost.

>Why is it a good idea to pay ANYTHING to someone who cannot
>play, when you could soften your loses by paying someone else
>to have the roster spot who can play?

Because we we have to pay him regardless! Since we're paying him no matter what, and likely not making significant waves this year, it's better to suck it up, get it over with, and have that money available going forward. That's how you soften your losses.

We softened our losses on the FA market by adding Lin and picking up Boozer, two deals that give us decent players without tying up long money long term. That's softening a loss. Who exactly are we going to pay that makes paying Nash worthwhile for two extra seasons?

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248. "If I could add a Bo McCalebb to the roster this year"
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>>the issue isn't his contract.....the Lakers traded for him
>and
>>thus have to deal with the consequences...
>
>I didn't say the issue was his contract. It becomes an issue
>if they allow his contract to drain 3 mil the next two years
>without bringing in an impact player for that cost. Further,
>that contract has the ability to either help bring in a good
>player at the deadline, or by helping clear space next summer
>for another crack at free agency.

it would be worth it. If you could get McCalebb for the money saved from only pay 3 for Nash after you stretch him it's more than worth it..

acquiring a young player of value that can actually play is always preferable than having a guy taking up a space on your roster who cannot play...

for hypothetical sakes...(especially now since the bucks are going to claim Marshall so we need a PG). If a guy like McCalebb can contribute than that makes Lin a valuable trading piece this season assuming Clarkson can start right away..




>>but what makes that horrible deal even worse...would be if
>>Nash utilizes a roster spot that could be used by someone
>who
>>can actually still play basketball...
>>
>>THAT is the issue.... not his contract..but his place on a
>>roster.
>
>Yeah, I'm not harping on his contract. Are you even reading
>what I'm saying? What would make a horrible deal worse is by
>extending that horrible deal out for two more years. It's
>better to take the full hit this year instead of dragging it
>out for two extra years, unless we bring in a significant
>player for that cost.

I guess I'm saying I believe we can still get a "significant player" this offseason for the money saved and that would be worth sacrificing 3 mill for those years...

Nash should retire...he knows he cannot play any longer and he should have enough integrity to take a buyout or something and move on...

the fact that nobody will trade for his ass should tell him that...

I understand him getting his money but the attitude he had about it and the fact he knows he cannot play.... him being around this team to me is not a positive.

in hindsight if the Spurs had been in a situation where they could eat the 3 million for 2 mill going forward and get a Patty Mills on their roster...... or keep a guy who can't play anymore?

>
>>Why is it a good idea to pay ANYTHING to someone who cannot
>>play, when you could soften your loses by paying someone
>else
>>to have the roster spot who can play?
>
>Because we we have to pay him regardless! Since we're paying
>him no matter what, and likely not making significant waves
>this year, it's better to suck it up, get it over with, and
>have that money available going forward. That's how you soften
>your losses.
>
>We softened our losses on the FA market by adding Lin and
>picking up Boozer, two deals that give us decent players
>without tying up long money long term. That's softening a
>loss. Who exactly are we going to pay that makes paying Nash
>worthwhile for two extra seasons?


I hear what you're saying man..but to me having to limit what you can do now makes the negative impact of that contract greater.....

look if we just had Nash on a Physically unable to perform list (if they have that in the NBA..lol)... all season and just got it over with.... and kept 14 guys instead of 13... then what you can pay that 14th guy is less...it limits what you can do with that spot...

there are some guys still available that I think would be worth it...and to me it's worth it getting Nash just away.... old hurt dude just getting a paycheck and can't play isn't what you want around your team

  

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223. "At this point, you take the hit for Nash in one season"
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No point in stretching it out....and it also becomes a potential deadline asset if any team is looking to shed salary.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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224. "what happened to earl clark?"
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LA2Philly
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225. "Got 4.5 million from Cle last year, now a FA"
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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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226. "Gustavo Ayon, Andray Blatche"
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Jermaine Oneal
Elton Brand
BJ Mullens


All guys they can get to play C.


I actually liek ayon the most out of that group.


Then youd need a 3

and a coach

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LA2Philly
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227. "We have a 2.7mill slot left, the coach is Byron"
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I would take Ayon or JO out of that group. Xavier is a solid 3 if his knee doesn't act up.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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231. "out because of 2.7 mil or fit?"
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so you believe WC's Byron still milking CLe payments theory?

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228. "Why in the fuck would JO play for a lotto team.....?!?!?"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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233. "The same fuckin reason he played for phx 2 stints ago"
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They were one if the few teams that gave him an offer

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230. "They need a 3rd PG...Lin is injury prone & Clarkson is a 2nd rd Rookie"
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>sending Marshall on his way tells me they are more than
>satisfied with Clarkson...
>
>bringing back Xavier at the league minimum is also a solid
>move...X may even start at SF...
>
>So as of now our numbers look like this...
>
>PG-Lin
>PG- Clarkson

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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232. "Nash is your 3rd right now"
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238. "Damn, unless Kobe went over to Germany and Randle plays like young..."
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Boozer reincarnated we're gonna suck.

I think the hold up with Byron is he knows they're gonna suck and he wants a long term guaranteed deal to survive the rebuild.

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240. "give Lin the ball and let him work his magic. nm"
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241. "I don't mind sucking as long as Clarkson and Randle get heavy minutes"
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Glad they let Marshall go.

  

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242. "Who is out there worth stretching Nash for?"
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229. "Wesley Johnson back for 1 year - 1 Million"
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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24627421/report-wesley-johnson-signs-1-year-1-million-contract-with-lakers

  

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234. "ryan kelly re-signed for 2 yrs..."
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..not a huge move, but he's shown potential all along

hopefully he gets a bit more tick.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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243. "Lakers trying to get Bledsoe?"
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http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-rumors-eric-bledsoe-headed-to-los-angeles-in-blockbuster-trade/2014/07/19/


My source in L.A. is pushing Lakers to offer Julius Randle, Jordan Hill & 1st Rd Pick from Lin deal in sign & trade for Bledsoe. #Hmmmm


https://twitter.com/JonBloom/statuses/490225591040241664
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244. "some radio host conjured up that terrible trade idea"
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on the radio yesterday...

it's bogus.

  

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245. "Stupid fucking idea if true. "
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Just fucking dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

I'd be happy to do Lin+Nash and their collective expiring deals on a three year, 16 mil with a team option for the third though.

No sense trading a rookie with potential unless we're getting a big time player that can help us win now. Don't fuck up the rebuilding process for an injury prone shoot-first point guard.

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247. "Any rumor about the Lakers ain't happening."
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Was that Lin trade rumored? Ed Davis? Mitch gets shit done on the low.



  

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251. "lol @ "gets shit done." yeah, he's accomplished so much"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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252. "trying to pay attention to ricky fox on sports matters"
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is an exercise in wasting your time

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But hell, what do I know?

  

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254. "Huh? Mitch has been pretty damn good "
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Pau trade, Ariza trade, Shannon Brown for nothing, the CP3 deal while also keeping many of the same pieces that led to the Dwight deal...he created a window for the team that led to 3 finals and 2 rings and was about to create another huge window for the team before the CP3 deal was vetoed by proactively dealing Pau while he still had value...and even after that, he created a team that everyone will retroactively shit on with Nash, Kobe, Pau and Dwight but I remember how scared OKS and the rest of the NBA was at that point.

At this point, he doesn't have much to work with...he's dealing with that Kobe contract and has kept the cap space in order to lure superstars rather than over-paying mid-tier players on long-term deals.

I think he's done a pretty darn good job with the cards dealt to him.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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255. "Yeah he's not replying to this."
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257. "Does it not say "offseason post?" Are we not talking "right today?""
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>Pau trade Ariza trade, Shannon Brown for nothing, the CP3
>deal while also keeping many of the same pieces that led to
>the Dwight deal...he created a window for the team that led to
>3 finals and 2 rings and was about to create another huge
>window for the team before the CP3 deal was vetoed by
>proactively dealing Pau while he still had value...and even
>after that, he created a team that everyone will retroactively
>shit on with Nash, Kobe, Pau and Dwight but I remember how
>scared OKS and the rest of the NBA was at that point.


And today they not only have NONE of those players, they have nothing to show for them either. Pau, gone for nothing, Shannon Brown, irrelevant anyway, CP3, never came, D12, bolted largely because of internal mismanagement of the situation. He has been a good asset manager and had some bold moments, but at this point in time none of that matters.

>At this point, he doesn't have much to work with...he's
>dealing with that Kobe contract and has kept the cap space in
>order to lure superstars rather than over-paying mid-tier
>players on long-term deals.
>
>I think he's done a pretty darn good job with the cards dealt
>to him.

Who signed Kobe to the fucking contract? Jerry West?

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266. "GMs aren't rated based off one or two off seasons. "
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269. "You took the initial comments waaaaaay out of context on some agenda shi..."
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Go back and read dude's post again. He was simply saying that when Mitch makes deals, they tend to just get done. We don't typically get a ton of rumors ahead of time, they just happen.

Your response to that was out of context, as though "gets shit done" meant that he was making all these great moves.

Your subsequent responses seem to indicate he hasn't in fact pulled off some tremendous moves, which is absurd.

Pau, Dwight, Nash, CP3, those were all deals nobody thought could be had and he made them happen. Dwight and Nash was obviously a calculated risk, but anyone pretending that those deals weren't made with a small window in mind to begin with with full knowledge that there was a potential downside is being dishonest.

We all saw what went down with CP3, and we all know Mitch made that deal before Cuban and Gilbert started crying their fucking eyes out.

Other deals like Ariza, drafting Bynum which worked out enough to make him a cog in two titles, so again... even if he didn't turn into the HOF center we all hoped for, we got some solid mileage out of that pick and the deal for Ariza.

All that said, you're being oportunistic right now with your Mitch criticism and that's fine, but pretending that he doesn't have a damn good track record is dishonest. And again... this whole conversation started with you taking the first comment far out of context.

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270. "Likely Jeannie"
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>Who signed Kobe to the fucking contract? Jerry West?

Mitch has basically shitted on that contract to the press

  

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249. "That's utter nonsense some radio host made up "
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Pay it zero mind

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250. "Jlin Introductory Press Conf"
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http://www.nba.com/lakers/live_stream

He's gonna wear the legendary 17 he wore in NY

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253. "RE: Jlin Introductory Press Conf"
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Laker fans you guys are gonna love the kid. Funny I expected a lot more hate since Ive been on clutchfans so long, but surprisingly is getting a good amount of love on the laker subreddit and other laker forums.


On Demand: http://www.nba.com/lakers/video?cid=nav_multimedia_expanded

On Max and Marcellus: http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play?id=11261381

Full Story and pics: http://jeremylinpost.blogspot.com/2014/07/lakers-formally-introduces-jeremy-lin.html

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256. "lakers make an official offer to byron scott..."
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http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11263969/los-angeles-lakers-offer-head-coaching-job-byron-scott-according-sources

The Los Angeles Lakers have offered their head coaching job to Byron Scott, according to league sources.

The two sides are now in negotiations on a contract.

The Lakers made Scott a verbal offer on Thursday after Scott spoke with owner Jim Buss. Scott and his representatives are now in the process of reviewing the Lakers' offer.

Scott, the former Lakers star who won three titles playing next to Magic Johnson, has long been the frontrunner for the job.

The Lakers have been without a coach since Mike D'Antoni resigned at the end of April. Scott interviewed for the job three times, but the organization prioritized the draft and free agency over hiring a coach.

Scott received a key endorsement from Lakers star Kobe Bryant, who played with Scott as a rookie in 1996 and has maintained a close relationship with him since.

Information from ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne was used in this report.



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258. "He keeps getting these "walking into a buzzsaw" gigs now"
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I figured they might go with a first-timer to be the recognizable face/patsy, but I guess they want to make it look more respectable than that.

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261. "lol @ the lakers being a 'buzzsaw gig'..."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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262. "when he took the Cleveland job I'm pretty sure he thought Lebron..."
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would be there, lol

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268. "Is anyone else watching Lakers games for the interactions with JLin?"
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Byron is tough on his point guards. GOAT is ready to contribute on day one.

I need to know "cut the check" Nash gets along with Byron Scott. That's another storyline to keep your eye on.

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259. "If they somehow hired hakeem as a consultant"
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theyd have my 4 favorite players of my lifetime in one organization.

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263. "who are the other 2?"
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264. "Byron and Kobe"
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265. "Shit, forgot Yao Da God"
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267. "not happening..so bye nigga....take your talents back to LA.."
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go home like bron...

bwahahahaha

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271. "Byron got 4 yrs 17 mil"
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272. "finally.... now let's go..."
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273. "looking at GP as an assistant "
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probably for player development.


The big question is who will the lead assistant be going with Eddie Jordan means hes going back to his deliberate Princeton style.


Supposedly Lawrence Frank is an option.

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276. "that's another shitty part about them waiting so long to hire a coach..."
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the pickings for assistants are slim, all the good assistants have jobs, the only people left are old retreads and inexperienced people

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278. "Eddie Jordan.....Hooray!"
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274. "Lakers Depth Chart/Starting Lineup "
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http://lakeshowlife.com/2014/07/28/starting-lineup-revealed/


Lol of course it was "discovered" by a Lin fan. Who knows if its doctored or not.
If not LMAO at Swaggy

Interesting they have Clarkson at 1 and not backup 2


Also to see Randle so far down the chart and possibly at 3 (shades of LJ fuck you Anthony Bennett).

Its a real early rough rough draft im guessing.

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275. "that means absolutely nothing at this point, they just hired a coach"
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277. "doesnt mean much but I wouldnt say it means absolutely nothing"
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i mean IF this is real.

Then it means management has some idea of the direction of the teams lineup.
They met with Byron on an overlapping timeline with Boozer, but yes. Injuries can happen. Camp, and preseason needs to happen.


Its gonna be fun watching you root against Jeremy for your team though. I guess you can do it under the guise of wanting that bottom 5 pick. That wont happen though unless Kobe gets hurt again- and even then.

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279. "RE: doesnt mean much but I wouldnt say it means absolutely nothing"
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>i mean IF this is real.
>
>Then it means management has some idea of the direction of the
>teams lineup.
>They met with Byron on an overlapping timeline with Boozer,
>but yes. Injuries can happen. Camp, and preseason needs to
>happen.
>
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>Its gonna be fun watching you root against Jeremy for your
>team though. I guess you can do it under the guise of wanting
>that bottom 5 pick. That wont happen though unless Kobe gets
>hurt again- and even then.

What makes you think I'm going to be rooting against Jeremy?

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282. "RE: doesnt mean much but I wouldnt say it means absolutely nothing"
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Thats what you've always done and you really werent rooting for the lakers too tough last season.

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285. "He's a Laker now, I never root against my team, at this point I have no...."
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choice but to be 100% TeamJLin. I hope he's an All-Star.

>Thats what you've always done and you really werent rooting
>for the lakers too tough last season.

There wasn't really a lot to root for with that idiot we had coaching.

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280. "Byrons Press Conference"
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magic opening remarks

http://www.nba.com/lakers/live_stream

It was dope. A number of the showtime team came through to support or sent messages via Magic.


Kareem was there
Magic
John Black


Wonder if he'll bring Kareem on staff

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281. "nvmd"
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remembered you were w the knicks initially.

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283. "yea bitch. keep that pussy shut."
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288. "wait, what?"
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i posted asking if you were fan of lin or the rockets. then i remembered you were fan of the knicks during linsanity, answered my own question, and said nevermind.

what are you on? goddamn.

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292. "again, i ask, por que?"
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284. "Coop as Asst?"
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Magic Johnson just lobbied for Byron to hire Mychal Cooper as one of his assistants. Coop is currently coaching the WNBA's ATL Dream

Man it was a great PC. Like I said, Byron was my favorite player growing up and if was awesome seeing the showtime Lakers backing him.


It was also really cool to see Byron getting emotional talking about the job. Shows how passionate he is about getting the team back on track.

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286. "Full Transcript of the Scott Presser with Video"
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any fan of the showtime Lakers has to appreciate this. I love Byron as a player but have never loved him as a coach. He said all the right things in the presser and his love for the organization (and the orgs love for him) bled through and through.


The magic intro is in the middle of the page.


http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-sn-transcript-byron-scott-20140729-story.html#page=1

The Lakers introduced their new coach, former Showtime member Byron Scott, at a news conference Tuesday. It began with surprise appearances by former Lakers greats Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Jamaal Wilkes, and included an introduction and comments by Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak. The questions that begin in the middle of the transcript were posed by members of the media on hand.

Mitch Kupchak

“Before I begin and introduce Byron, I just want to thank him for his patience. Over the last six or seven weeks, it was always clear to us that Byron was our first choice, and we did multiple interviews and stayed in touch. But in this business, when time plays out and things linger, I know there’s some uncertainty and tension and testing of patience. Here we are, introducing Byron Scott as the head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, so thank you for sticking with us and being patient over the last six or seven weeks.

Google+ Hangout: Byron Scott to coach Lakers
Columnist Bill Plaschke talks with deputy sports editor John Cherwa about the Lakers choice for coach.
“Before I introduce Byron, I’d like to introduce some of his friends who came out today to show him support.”

Magic Johnson

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“We came here today to support our brother and our former teammate and champion, Byron Scott, and also we’re here to support the organization. This is a great day for all former Lakers as well as Laker fans all over the world. We’re just excited for what Byron will bring to the table and get back to playing Laker basketball. Also we’re happy that Jim and Jeanie and Mitch chose Byron as the coach. I know Mychal Thompson wanted to be here, he’s supporting his son but he wanted to be here. Coop almost came off his, you know he had surgery, but he told me to tell you he loves you and that’d be here if he hasn’t had the surgery. As well as James Worthy, who is in Europe. We’re excited, we wish we could put a uniform on and help you, but we’re here supporting you and will support you throughout. Again, congratulations to the Laker organization. You chose the right guy.”

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

“As far as I’m concerned, I’m just thrilled to see my good friend and running buddy, Mr. Scott here, back here where he belongs. It’s great that L.A. takes care of its own like this, and it’s wonderful to see Byron back here. His confidence and leadership and knowledge of the game will definitely benefit this team, and hopefully this is the point where things start to turn around. Welcome home B, we’re going to be down there bothering you every night.”

Jamaal Wilkes

Byron Scott always saw something special in Kobe Bryant
Byron Scott always saw something special in Kobe Bryant
Mike Bresnahan
“I’d also like to add that I’m happy to see Byron as a tie to the past but more importantly as a bridge to the future. We think he’s the right guy, as Earvin and Kareem have eloquently stated. Other guys wanted to be here from your Showtime team, because of the high regard we all have for you, and we wish and hope for the best. Like Kareem said, we’re going to be bothering you.”

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“I have so many people to thank. Those three guys who were just up there. Three of the greatest teammates and three of the greatest people you will ever meet, and drove me to be the best that I could be on the basketball court and as a person as well. I’d like to thank my family that’s here obviously today. Emmanuel, my attorney. Vitti, my main man from way back in the day. Jeanie and Jim have been fantastic. Mitch has been unbelievable, another teammate of mine. The one thing I will say is that this has been a dream of mine for so long. It’s a dream come true to be here sitting and talking to you guys today and be introduced as the head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers. As I told Mitch and Jim in our meetings, the passion and the love that I have for this organization is second to none. The only thing I regret is that Dr. Buss isn’t here today. He’s somebody who showed a lot of love and confidence in me back in the day, and a guy that you could call any time, a guy that could call you any time and you could talk to him about anything. Like, basketball, money, anything. I just wish he was here today. But as I told Jim and Jeanie, I’m going to do everything in my power to make those guys proud, the Buss family proud, and do everything I can to bring this team back to where we know it should be. This organization is all about championships. Period. We don’t look at Western Conference finals, Western Conference championships. We look at championships. We know we have some work ahead of us, I’m excited. Just thrilled to death. I’m eager, and just ready to get to work. I know it’s going to be a challenge, but I look forward do it. I love challenges anyway, so this is going to be fun. I want to thanks Mitch again for his due diligence, and Mitch as well. They wanted to thank me for their patience, but I’ve always been a very patient guy. I just had to get out of town for a few days just to relax from all the fans who were asking me all the questions every single day, but patience is a virtue and it’s well worth it. I’m glad to be back with this organization, which I think is the best in all of sports.”


Former Laker greats Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Jamaal Wilkes praise new Coach Byron Scott.
How emotional is this day for you?


“I pride myself on being one of the toughest guys around, working with Buck in the weight room and working through all of the things that we went through, but I went up there and talked to Jeanie for a while, and we started to mention her father and my ex-boss, and I think we both got a little teary-eyed. I don’t think that I could state this any deeper, how I feel about this organization. What I plan on bringing to the table as far as my passion for the game and what I want to do with the team, and obviously talking to Mitch and Jim, in the plans in the meetings that we had, I could see it clear as day what they were planning on doing, and I thought it was a great idea, so I think this is the perfect fit. It’s hard for me to contain right now some of the things that I’m going through, but I have to, because I have kids over there I don’t want them seeing Daddy cry, or my grandparents seeing pop pop cry. I’ll probably do that a little bit later.”

Has the waiting bothered you?

“Not really. I take everything in stride. Like Mitch said, we had conversations on different occasions, and like I said, I have a lot of confidence in what I can do and bring to the table, and I have a lot of confidence in Jim, Jeanie and Mitch. I just thought they were making the right decision, the best decision, and I’m a little arrogant when it comes to that because I thought I was the right decision, so the waiting didn’t really bother me. The only thing that bothered me were the questions I would get asked every day from fans, and that didn’t really bother me, it just takes a toll after a while. The wait didn’t bother me really at all.”


Catching up to do?

“Yeah I’ve got some catching up to do. Again, Mitch and I will sit down. Got to put a staff together. I got to get myself familiar with the roster. So yeah, I’ve got some work to do, but more than willing and able to get it done.”

Roster?

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Jamaal Wilkes, left, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Magic Johnson stand behind Byron Scott at his news conference. (Michael Nelson / EPA)
“The one thing I told Mitch and Jim at our last meeting was that I thought they put a roster together that will be very competitive. The main thing I have to do right away is establish ourselves as a defensive basketball team. These three gentlemen that’s sitting in this front row, the first that Magic taught me when I got in this league is that we win championships by defending every single night. That’s the one thing we can control. Offense is going to come and go. You’re going to miss shots, you’re going to make shots. But the one thing you control every single night is your effort on the defensive end. So we have to obviously get that back in the plans. Guys have to understand that that’s what it’s going to take and they have to be held accountable for that. But I like the roster that Mitch has put together. It’s a little bit of some youth and some experienced guys and I’m looking forward to working with them.”

Changing mind-set?

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“Well I think the first thing you got to do is get them thinking like we used to think. Because everything to me is — if you’re winning it’s contagious. If you’re losing it’s contagious. So you got to change their mind-set. That’s the first thing we got to do. The first day of training camp is all about winning. It’s nothing else. You don’t think about losing, you think about winning. And when you lose games, you shouldn’t be sitting in the locker room having a good time. It should hurt. Again, with those three gentlemen when we lost games, it was quiet as could be in the locker room because we didn’t expect to lose. We got to get our guys thinking the same way. We got to get back to winning.”

High school in Inglewood….

“Let’s not go that far back, please.

“I would say God is good. God is good. Like I said, everything that I always set out to do or dreams that I had I’ve been able to for some reason, and it’s obviously my heavenly father, I’ve been put there. I used to sneak in the Forum and watch Jerry West and those guys play thinking that one day I would be a Laker. And boom I get to be a Laker. I get into coaching and start thinking about coaching and said, ‘One day I would love to coach that Purple and Gold.’ Boom I’m here. So that’s all I can really say. God is good.”

Mitch Kupchak:

Timing


“There was obviously a lot of support. It’s hard to select a coach when he’s employed by another team, so the timing has to be right. We have to not have a coach, and then the coach that you might want has to be available. So some of those things are out of your control. But we knew early on, and yes I’ve spoken to some of these fellas here on the front row, other Laker supporters, present, former, and from the very beginning there was always a lot of support for Byron to coach here. And having said that, as I said earlier, from the beginning, although we went through a long process where we interviewed a lot of candidates, we felt early on that Byron was the leader and the right choice from the beginning. And at that point, we had three or four people on our roster, and our feeling was, let’s create a roster, let’s get through the draft and make sure we have the right coach. Now we could’ve hired a coach a month and a half ago, but at that point now you’re maybe doing things a little bit differently. So we chose to create a roster first, and our gut instinct on Byron before we did that was that he was the right coach, and obviously we feel the same way today.”

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Talk to Jerry about coaching?

“Jerry West? Or Jerry Buss? No Jerry and I never talked about me coaching the team. We talked about a little bit of everything else. Like I said, when I got let go by New Orleans, Jerry was the first to call. Asked me when I was coming home, he wanted me to come to a game, came to a couple of games and we stayed in contact. But never really talked about me coaching the team. He asked me my opinion of the team. But never talked about coaching the team.

“I never did. No.”

Kobe?

“Great relationship. I mean we get a long extremely well. We talk a lot. We text each other a lot during the season and obviously during the off-season. I’m looking forward to coaching Kobe. I know his drive, and I know his will and determination. I think we’re on the same page as far as how we think about this game and how it should be played. So it’s going to be fun. He has to be a little patient, we know that as well. But like I said, I think it’s going to be a lot of fun. I’m going to enjoy it.”

Defense?

“They don’t do it I’ll take them out the game. It’s pretty simple, Jim. I mean, again, you get beat on the defensive end, and I’ve done this my whole career, guys, they understand that you’re not doing what you’re supposed to do out there, there’s consequences. And the only thing that you can really control with players is their minutes. That gets their attention. So if you’re not out there and you’re not playing defense the way I think you’re capable of playing or the way we should play defense, then I’m going to have to find other guys that will.”

Style?

“We can’t play that way. We don’t have a Magic Johnson. So we can’t get up and down the floor, a guy pushing the ball like he pushes right now. But my style is still the same. Like I said, first of all defense, we got to do that on a night-to-night basis. Offensively we want to get up and down the floor. We want to spread the floor. Don’t want it sticking, as much as possible. And we want to put our players in a position to be successful.”

Realistic timetable to turn team around?

“I don’t know. Again, that’s something that Mitch and Jim have been talking about We didn’t really get into all that. We talked a lot about basketball, we didn’t talk about timetables and things like that. But again, we don’t — at least I don’t see this as a long process. This is Los Angeles. This is still one of the best organizations in all of sports. Still got a ton of people that would love to play for this organization. And you’ve got guys that are sitting in the front row that are very adamant about that and they’re advocates for this organization, so I don’t think it’s going to take long.


“That’s putting a timetable on it. I don’t think long.”

Mitch Kupchak:

Being a former Laker help with hiring?

“Is that how much of a factor was the fact that Byron played for us twice, in the hiring? Well obviously it was a factor. We talked about it, and we knew the support in the city would be there. It’s not like he’s new to this. He’s an experienced coach which is something that we stated early on we wanted to acquire. And yeah the roster was put together in the last month, but we still feel we have one of the best players in the NBA, and we’ve accumulated some talent. It’s going to take some time to work our way through it and to figure out the best way to play. But all those were factors. Certainly getting off on a good step is a factor, and we knew that would be the case bringing Byron back to Los Angeles.”

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Thoughts on Julius Randle?

“I’m not going to put expectations on young fella like that. I think he has to come in here and play. He just has to come in here and play, learn the system and I think the sky’s the limit because he’s definitely very talented. To get him at seven is a steal. He was one of the top three. I love his attitude. I love the way he attacks the basket. He brings some things to the table that can definitely help us.”

Expectations for you?

“It’d be a mixture of a little bit of everything that I’ve done so far in New Jersey, New Orleans and Cleveland.”

Offense?

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“You’re trying to take advantage of any situation that you can on the offensive end, any mismatch that you can on the offensive end. You’re trying to put the ball in guys who can make things happen. Like I said, the Princeton offense, you have to understand how to play the game of basketball. It’s just like the triangle, a lot of similarities, so I know Kobe’s very familiar with it, but there’s different variations to the Princeton offense. There’s just not the triangle. It’s five different sets that you can call the Princeton offense, and we won’t get into all of them, and we won’t even try to work on all of them. But like I said, it’s going to be a mixture of things that I think commit to staying successful.”

Off-season moves?


“I didn’t try to stay away from it necessarily. I just was looking at all the moves that Jim and Mitch were making. When we talked, they would ask me my opinion, and I would give it to them. And like I said, I think they did a great job of putting this roster together. I’m excited to work with these guys on the floor too, and I think you’re going to have a few of these guys on this roster that have a chip on their shoulder, which to me is a very good thing, and you have a lot of people real down on us right now, and I think that’s something that can drive us going through the season. So again, I’m excited about that.”

Time off?

“I learned that I needed that time off. It was good. At that time, you tend to try to get away from the game for a little while. But if you are really a basketball guy, if you really love this game, you have the passion that I have for this game, you just can’t stay away from it that long. You start watching a lot more games. You start getting that feel back, wanting to be back in that saddle again, and that’s where I found myself working with Time Warner, which I loved, but I wanted to be back in that saddle. I had that itch again about coaching and teaching. It’s something that’s in my blood. It’s something that I enjoy doing. Relationships that you build and bonds that you develop over the years with some of these players are things that are priceless, so for me, after about three or four months, I started getting the itch, and then, like I said, working with Time Warner, that didn’t help the itch. It enhanced it.”

Jeremy Lin?

“Well, you know, the thing I like about Jeremy, is that he’s feisty. He’s tough. He competes. I’ve played against him, as far as coached against him, in a number of games, so I know how he is. He’s a competitor. The point guard position in this league today, on the defensive end, is vital. You’ve got to have guys that are — they don’t have to be great — they don’t have to be great one-on-one defenders, but they have to go after you. They have to just continue to be persistent at that end of the floor. I think Jeremy is like that, and offensively, obviously he can shoot the ball. He can push the ball up and down the floor. He gets to the basket. He’s a very, very intelligent basketball player, so again, after coaching against him for a few years, it’s going to be fun to coach him.”

Veterans?

“Well, I don’t look at that as a challenge. ... I think those guys have been in the league so long that they understand they can’t play 48 minutes a game, especially to last a whole season, so those are conversations that I’ll sit down with those guys on the individual level and talk to them and tell them what I’m thinking and listen to what they’re thinking, and we’ll come up with a game plan and go from there.”

Post players?

“In the offense that I run, post players are important. They’re very important because I think a lot of our guys are probably going to play one-on-one. If they get played one-on-one, they’ve got to be able to make a move down there, so it’s something that we emphasize, but they’ve also got to be a hub. They also have to be able to pass the ball, set screens. They have to know how to play the game of basketball. If we got a guy down there that can score, we’re going to throw him the ball.”

Advice from Kobe?

“Again, I just think Kobe is an unbelievable basketball player that just has an unbelievable mind for the game of basketball. And I see us conversating a lot over things that we should do on the basketball court, and I don’t see anything wrong with that. Like I said, when I came in the league and had to play with this man over here on his side, listening to him talk about the game was amazing to me, the way he saw the game, so as a coach, there’s certain things that I’m going to see on the floor, and there’s certain things that he’s going to see, and at times, I’m going to go with some of the things he sees, and I’m going to go with some of the things I see. So I don’t think that’s going to be a problem whatsoever.”


Influence from Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Jamaal Wilkes?

“No, they weren’t joking. They weren’t joking. What can I tell you. We’re going to have conversations as well. They weren’t joking.

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“These guys are not only my great friends, but they’re great basketball players, and obviously they have great basketball minds, so there’s probably going to be times—the same with Mitch—when I go in his office: ‘What did you see? What are you seeing?’ It’s no different with Earvin . It’s not different with Silk . It’s no different with Cap .”

Things to learn?

“I think when you get to the point as a coach where you think you know it all, it’s time to retire. It really is. It’s time to retire. I don’t think I’m there yet. I think I have a lot to learn even though I’ve been doing this 13, 14 years. I still think every day I can get better, and why not lean on some of the guys I feel can help me get better, and that’s these guys right here.”

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“No, no. You got to understand though, in Cleveland and Jersey and New Orleans, I had more rings than anybody in the organization. These guys, they’ve got way more rings than I do, so it’s easy to listen to them. It’s kind of hard when the guys in the organization haven’t been to a Finals, haven’t won anything, for them to tell you how to get there when I’ve been there. These guys all here have been there multiple times and won multiple championships, so as I tell players today, I don’t have players do anything that we didn’t do back in the day on the basketball floor. And that stays the same.”

Rest of coaching staff?

“Again, that’s something that Mitch and I’ll sit down and talk about.”

Rivalry with Clippers?


“I don’t think L.A. has gone to the Clippers yet anyway. It’s still a Laker town, period. But does it make for a great rivalry? Yes. And love that about it, that we have two teams now, one that has about 17 banners and one that doesn’t have any yet, but the rivalry is getting pretty good. But this is still a Laker town.”

What did you tell your family?

“At the time, I was in the Bahamas. When I got the word, I was vacationing. I really just told all my family members that the deal wasn’t done, but we’re close, and once the deal got done, I would let them all know. And then we would celebrate.”

Fan reaction?

“The fans have been unbelievable. Everywhere I’ve been, here in Los Angeles, fans have been very supportive. You can tell they are true-blue purple-and-gold fans. It means a great deal to me, and know it does to Mitch and Jim as well that our fans are so hyped up about this as I am. But it also means to me that I want to do everything in my power not to let them down, not only the fans, but like I said earlier, Jim and Jeanie and Mitch have showed a lot of trust in me by allowing me to coach this team, this organization, so I’m going to do everything in my power to make sure this is successful.”

What did you say while waiting for the official word?

“My line most of the time when they were asking me, ‘When’s it going to happen?’ was ‘We’ll see.’ I just left it at that.”

Expectations?

“Play hard every single night, and we’ll come ready to defend.”

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287. "I see now why NJ and NO got rid of B. Scott.."
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his comment during the press conference that in those cities, he was dealing with people who had never been to the finals trying to tell him ...a multiple time champion...how to get to the finals....

B. has an ego...he's a driven dude...he's a confident dude...and he's not going to back down from what he knows is the right way of doing things....thus the abruptness of both NJ and NO letting him go after he took them where they hadn't been before...

and thank God..because that attitude ..that swagger...that confidence(cockiness)..and KNOWLEDGE of what it takes to win in this league is EXACTLY what the Lakers need RIGHT TODAY....


feeling very confident right now about the Lakers moving forward....the right coach at the right time for us.

  

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not mad at that...if he's in good shape...physically and mentally.... it would add some competition to our wing rotation....

http://www.si.com/nba/2014/07/30/los-angeles-lakers-michael-beasley

by Ben Golliver

The Los Angeles Lakers worked out free agent forward Michael Beasley on Wednesday, reports Dave McMenamin of ESPNLosAngeles.

Beasley, the No. 2 pick in the 2008 draft, has played for the Miami Heat, Minnesota Timberwolves and Phoenix Suns in his six-year NBA career. Last season, he signed with the Heat, the team that drafted him, for the second time and appeared in 55 games, averaging 15.1 minutes, 7.9 points and 3.1 rebounds per game.


If the Lakers sign him, Beasley would be joining a crowded wing rotation. The team re-signed wings Nick Young, Xavier Henry and Wesley Johnson this offseason and is expecting 16-time All-Star Kobe Bryant back from injury.

  

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such a feeling of relief with camp opening...

I feel really good about this team...it's coach....

We ready to roll....

  

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294. "If we can just keep everybody healthy, we've had a horrible run of luck...."
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with injuries recently

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I love Byron and I can see what he's saying about getting to the hole, but the net result so far has been a lot of contested midrange shots.

No bueno

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Byron Scott gave an interview last week following the Lakers' first preseason game; it went largely ignored, because preseason is stupid and no one cares. But with the Lakers looking like one of the more conspicuous disasters going so far—without any plans of tanking, bear in mind—let's take a quick look at just how well the Lakers have turned their terrible plans into terrible basketball.

Here's Scott in the LA Times a week ago:

Though D'Antoni liked his team's high volume of three-point attempts (24.8 a game at a 38.1% clip), Scott was happy the Lakers had only 10 attempts (making five) on Monday in their preseason opener against the Denver Nuggets.

"Our game plan is really to get to that basket," said Scott after practice Tuesday. "I like the fact that we only shot 10 threes. If we shoot between 10 and 15, I think that's a good mixture of getting to that basket and shooting threes.

"I don't want us to be coming down, forcing up a bunch of threes. I really want us to attack the basket."
First of all, that's nuts. Last year, only the Grizzlies took fewer than 15 threes a game (14 per game) and that's only because a) the Grizzlies have Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol and play a post-heavy style that results in the slowest pace in the league, and b) no one on the Grizzlies could throw a basketball into a black hole from 24 feet, let alone an NBA-regulation hoop.

At this point, the only real argument about the efficacy of the three is at the other extreme, where the concern is more about whether or not anyone actually wants to watch James Harden shoot 28 of them a game. In the real world, the top five offenses last year were, in order, the Clippers, Heat, Mavericks, Rockets, and Blazers. They shot 24, 22.3, 22.9, 26.6, and 25.3 threes per game, respectively, all in the top half of the league. The only team in the top 10 in three point attempts to have a losing record was the Timberwolves, but Minnesota had a weird fucking season last year.

But in three games this preseason, the Lakers have taken a total of 24 threes, by far the fewest in the league (including several teams who have played two games instead of three). You probably shouldn't expect the team to shoot eight threes per game in the regular season, but that number is absurd—Steph Curry shot 7.9 of them per game on his own last year. Just look at these shot charts!


So the Lakers aren't so much "getting to the rim" as they are "missing a ton of midrange jumpers and never getting free throws." Put another way:


The other hitch in the gameplan is just as baffling. In the Lakers' first pre-season game, they out-fouled the Nuggets 34-27, and had half as many free throws (44 to 22). LA won the game, but afterward, Scott said this:

"The aggressiveness is one thing I want us to keep our mind on," said Scott.

"I think for the first three or four preseason games, teams are going to average shooting 37 free throws against us — because that's how I want us to play," he continued. "Once we get that established, the referees around the league will know that we're going to play a physical brand of basketball and some of those things will go away."
Basketball has not worked like this for, literally, 10 years. Last season, Chicago, San Antonio, and Charlotte ranked 2nd, 4th, and 6th in defensive efficiency, and 4th, 3rd, and 1st in fewest fouls committed. The other top defensive teams—Indiana, Golden State, OKC (1st, 3rd, 5th)—drift a little further down in fouling; Indiana is in the middle of the pack, and the Thunder and Warriors are both in the bottom third. Thing is, those three teams start Roy Hibbert, Andrew Bogut, and Serge Ibaka—mistake-erasing rim protectors that embolden perimeter defenders to take chances. The Lakers will start Jordan Hill at center this year.

So, this will be fun. The Lakers are trying to be good with Carlos Boozer and Steve Nash at the top of the depth chart, their best player returning to play after two serious injuries, and their coach, who is a whinnying ass even under calmer skies and will absolutely pull some back in my day we won with elbows and grit shit before the year's out, has come up with a gameplan so outdated it makes his decaying roster seem fresh by comparison. Kobe's gonna shit his dick.

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300. "See...some folks don't realize the fact that we don't have 3 shooters!!!..."
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Of course, if we had Steph Curry, or even Prime Steve Nash, we could shoot 15-20. But without anyone who can really hit threes, it's no point in shooting them!!!

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298. "Wes Johnson the lukiest dude on the team right now..."
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if Swag....Xavier or even Ryan Kelly were healthy this offseason...Wes would have lost his starting job..

he's not very good...

  

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Maybe the worst starter in the nba. His vaunted defense is above avg at best.
It's interesting when he doesn't think so much you see his flashes.

Glad sacre is out the rotation. Ed Davis, Jordan hill,, and boozer and randle should be the rotation.

Would love to see Davis start but he might be a bigger benefit as the bench big while nick is out. I think he can start next to hill but you don't want to play Booz with randle.
If hi can keep knocking down that set shot that creates the space Booz provides.

Either way lin should play in whatever unit ed Davis primarily plAys in. They have great chemistry.

Good to see lin back on the court last night. He was moving relatively well after 10 days off and played 12 minute stretches.

Kobe was kobe. Lots of long tough jumpshots. That 3 shot stretch was ridiculous.

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301. "Ps nuggets waived Quincy miller"
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Lakers should absolutely go after him. Play a kid with upside over mediocre Wes with no upside.

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302. "WTF is Byron gonna do with the starting lineup?"
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Part of it has been injuries not allowing them to experiment as much as they wouldve liked but tonights starting lineup sans kobe was atrocious

Price
Ellington
Wesley
Boozer
Sacre

Seems liek he wants to start the season with Lin and Ed Davis playing together with teh second unit. Its not a bad idea, for some teams but these starters might be so bad you just wanna play your best players.

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303. "one thing though...."
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B is not going to stick with a line up if another line up will be better..

I mean yeah Lin and Davis may start as subs...but if this keeps up...trust me..they'll be in the starting line up..

same goes for Randle...He's knocking down jumpers and going coast to coast.... Boozer keeps fumbling the ball like he does...B is gonna make a change..

B. Scott been waiting a long time for this opportunity..he's not going to marry himself to something that's not working..

  

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305. "Price is trash. There is no reason Lin isn't starting first game of the ..."
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none.

  

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306. "I like Price - hes a good backup G generally"
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solid D, doesnt make mistakes.

I can see why Byron wants to start him next to Kobe.


I mean if you Start

Lin
Kobe
Wes
Booz
Hill

That leaves
Randle
Price
Davis
Ellington/Clarkson


Whose gonna create for that 2nd unit? I realize there's overlap but I think they may have to think about starting Price tile Nick gets back.

The thought is that Kobe can carry the first unit and the 2nd unit with Lin and Davis and Randle will be one of the most fun if not best 2nd units in the league. Would be great if Nash could play.


Of course if, they start slow in games and get down early, I think that switches up.


I think based off what Ive seen this preseason this would be my rotation.

Lin
Kobe
Wesley (ugh)
Booz
Hill

Id sub whoever was playing worse between Booz and Hill after 5 minutes with Davis.
And then 2-3 minutes later bring Randle in.

Im not sure Hill and Davis can play net to each other yet, Scott hasnt tried that a whole lot.

He's been playing guys 12 min (full qtr stretches a lot)


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311. "Is Nash done already?"
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312. "this mf...he couldn't just say "Yo Julius, get that shit"..."
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http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/10/15/6985099/steve-nash-injury-back-carrying-bags

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313. "That made me think he was done"
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If you tweak your shit carrying bags, thats degenerative bad back, old dad status.


He looked so good game 1 too. I expected at least a half season for him. I hope he stays with the team, Jeremy can at the very least, use some tutoring from Nash.

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314. "yeah he's done...B isn't going to waste time worrying about"
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whether a 40 year old's nerve issues will allow him to play..

we moving on....

  

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315. "He's done. Sciatica"
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"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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310. "Lin should start.... Price and Clarkson back him up..."
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304. "man....Young Randle looked super tonight.."
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if he keeps knocking down those outside shots...

he's gonna be a real beast...

  

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307. "Jeanie-"if you don't want to play with Kobe, you're a loser""
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Jeanie speakin on it...

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11749418

  

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308. "Jeanie coming off as slightly delusional to me"
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she sounds more like a fan than an exec in this interview, and in some others i've heard. Jim is supposed to be making basketball decisions, so maybe that's ok, but Jeanie's interviews aren't helping things. She might actually be shrewder than i give her credit for, as she might be desperately trying to spin the Kobe contract decision into something about loyalty and winning, when it sounds like it was about protecting ratings so they'd get paid.

Lake show is going to be a rough ride for the next two years.


All that being said, my brain hurts every time i hear some jackass talking head saying that Kobe didn't want to share the ball with Nash. Nash is even more broke down than Kobe, and has barely been on the court in a Laker uniform?

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309. "the Buss family doesn't have to defend Kobe's contract...."
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people who seem obsessed with analyzing it and blaming it for every negative thing that is happening in humankind right now don't deserve and explanation from the Laker organization..

the thing that people need to remember is that Dr. Buss himself rewarded Magic Johnson with a contract that Dr. Buss knew Magic was never going to play under as a reward for past service... the Lakers do that..... it's a strategy....rewarding great players gives the perception that the Lakers will take care of you and thus makes them more attractive to big time free agents..

will they get all the free agents??? of course not.... but through the very occasional lottery pick...and shrewd acquistions...they will rebuild much faster than most teams...and historical FACTS back that up.... Kobe won 2 championships post Shaq and if you can recall the rhetoric going on AFTER Shaq left..it was even worse than now..then when the Lakers won back to back again, those haters acted like they never doubted it..

history repeats itself.

  

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316. "RE: the Buss family doesn't have to defend Kobe's contract...."
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>people who seem obsessed with analyzing it and blaming it for
>every negative thing that is happening in humankind right now
>don't deserve and explanation from the Laker organization..

People are going to analyze Kobe's deal, because realistically it's negatively impacting the product on the floor right now. If they're rewarding him for career service as a long term strategy that's cool.


>will they get all the free agents??? of course not.... but
>through the very occasional lottery pick...and shrewd
>acquistions...they will rebuild much faster than most
>teams...and historical FACTS back that up.... Kobe won 2
>championships post Shaq and if you can recall the rhetoric
>going on AFTER Shaq left..it was even worse than now..then
>when the Lakers won back to back again, those haters acted
>like they never doubted it..

Lakers have the chance to rebuild pretty quickly, and aren't capped out past the next year or two, but people are just saying that it probably won't happen til Kobe leaves, or at least takes a reduced role and reduced pay. Long term, they're still the Lake Show, and players will still want to play for them. It's just kind of ugly for the foreseeable future.

Jeanie calling people making wise career decisions 'losers' was kind of silly to me, though. Free Agents who want to win are looking elsewhere to play. That'll change though if the Lakers build a solid nucleus, and start winning more. It sounds like Randle could be a nice piece, so maybe the process is already underway.

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317. "how is Kobe's contract "negatively impacting the product on the"
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>>people who seem obsessed with analyzing it and blaming it
>for
>>every negative thing that is happening in humankind right
>now
>>don't deserve and explanation from the Laker organization..
>
>People are going to analyze Kobe's deal, because realistically
>it's negatively impacting the product on the floor right now.
>If they're rewarding him for career service as a long term
>strategy that's cool.

floor??

see this is my point...

this will be Kobe's first season under the extention.... We haven't played a regular season game yet. Now if people want to say it WILL be detrimental to the team...or believe that they shouldn't have signed the extension that's fine.... But at least be honest that opinion is a prediction and not something that can be stated as fact because Kobe Bryant and the Lakers have not played 1 regular season game under his new extension....

I honestly think the rehashing old stuff is because all of the people who claimed Kobe was done, have seen enough pre-season action to know that they are bout to be served up a heaping plate of deep fried crow that they are going to have to eat, and the Laker Nation is not going to let them get up from the table before every single morsel of that crow is digested....

If people think Kobe's contract is detrimental to the Lakers and Kobe is done....they are entitled to their opinion.... but just understand that downfall that they are hoping and praying for has yet to happen...and if it does not.... be prepared ....


>
>>will they get all the free agents??? of course not.... but
>>through the very occasional lottery pick...and shrewd
>>acquistions...they will rebuild much faster than most
>>teams...and historical FACTS back that up.... Kobe won 2
>>championships post Shaq and if you can recall the rhetoric
>>going on AFTER Shaq left..it was even worse than now..then
>>when the Lakers won back to back again, those haters acted
>>like they never doubted it..
>
>Lakers have the chance to rebuild pretty quickly, and aren't
>capped out past the next year or two, but people are just
>saying that it probably won't happen til Kobe leaves, or at
>least takes a reduced role and reduced pay. Long term,
>they're still the Lake Show, and players will still want to
>play for them. It's just kind of ugly for the foreseeable
>future.

again...all that is conjecture... I actually view the Lakers future as very bright, and until something actually happens in reality to prove different, I have no reason to think different...




>
>Jeanie calling people making wise career decisions 'losers'
>was kind of silly to me, though. Free Agents who want to win
>are looking elsewhere to play. That'll change though if the
>Lakers build a solid nucleus, and start winning more.


if you think about it.... Jeanie was directing her comment at one player in particular... IMO that was aimed at Dwight Howard and nobody else.... He actually turned down more money to leave the Lakers then got dismissed from the playoffs in the first round....getting Melo was a dream....he took more money to stay at home...that happens...

but really...

the Lakers are the premier modern pro sports franchise in America right now.... the hardware and quality of players who wore those retired jersys prove that....



It
>sounds like Randle could be a nice piece, so maybe the process
>is already underway.

  

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318. "sounds crazy but smarter move than letting the product speak for itself"
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i think it's a bad move to put this whole "three-year plan" thing out there. for what?

what she said was mostly ridiculous and so was the hit piece that inspired it. it's not rocket science, they have half their cap tied up in a guy who out-earns lebron, durant, et al but isn't getting any better. there is no future until they move on from kobe and it has nothing to do with him being an asshole. it's just a matter of logistics--age, health, salary, etc. they know it, they just wanted to steal a moment of relevance with this rebuttal.

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321. "Fair nm"
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319. "good luck to Steve Nash..."
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never root for anyone to be hurt..and as someone whose had to live with sciatica for more than a decade, he has my sympathy....

but this does allow the Lakers to move forward and use Lin....Price and Clarkson at the point guard and this allows them to build for their future...

  

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320. "go get Quincy Miller"
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322. "Percy Miller too"
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323. "Thi would be a dumb mitch move"
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https://twitter.com/bill_oram/status/525752854855053312

Lakers Will Apply For Disabled Player Exception

Lakers will apply for disabled player exception following Nash news. If granted, exception would be worth roughly $4.85 million.

Man just let nash expJust shortsighted

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324. "why is it a dumb move?"
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328. "RE: why is it a dumb move?"
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From wht i was reading earlier itd affect trading him or letting him expire later on, but I just found an article that while not completely clear doesnt seem to make that the case.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-lakers-steve-nash-financial-options-20141024-story.html


My original point if this would affect them later:

At this point in the season who will they sign for 4.5 that will really help the team?
Just get Will Bynum or Quincy Miller off waivers.


Wait til the trade deadline and trade Nash's expiring deal for a bigger player closer to nash's salary that wants an expiring contract. Or let Nash's contract expire and have 11 million in cap space


I dont think you can do both


**edit it seems like maybe you can do both since this is an exception to just pick up another body on a 1 yr deal**

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325. "the Lakers owe Nash 10 million dollars on his contract.."
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anything they can do to mitigate that impact upon the salary cap is something they need to do.

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326. "Not getting why it's a dumb move. "
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I think his contract (please read, dumb people. his *contract*, not his play) will have decent value at the deadline and I don't know how a disabled player exception would affect that. Just because they get the exception, that doesn't mean they have to use it, so what's the problem? It gives them an option to use during this season and doesn't incur any additional expenses after this year, so what's the problem?

  

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327. "How exactly is that dumb or short-sighted?"
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It gives Mitch the option of using that exception and if he doesn't, he can still utilize Nash's expiring as a trade incentive.

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329. "See 328"
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I originally read it would impact/cut into the value of trading Nash mid season or letting his contract expire- which actually doesn't seem to be the case.

If that's the case it's worth it to take.


Did you get league pass? Haven't seen you post on laker games yet this season

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333. "So this is why they still havent done it."
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The Los Angeles Lakers petitioned the NBA for a Disabled Player Exception after losing rookieJulius Randle due to a broken leg and Monday the league granted it, reports ESPN.com's Marc Stein The Lakers now have until March 10 to use the $1,498,680 exceptions via a trade, signing or waiver claim.

The Lakers have also lost Steve Nash for the season due to his bad back and Stein gives us this update: "...sources say that the Lakers are still evaluating their options. ... Lakers officials are planning to explore the trade market for potential deals between now and the February trade deadline with Nash's $9.7 million expiring contract."

Should the Lakers apply for a Nash Disabled Player Exception it will be worth $4.85 million.
The Lakers currently have 15 players under contract, so someone will have to be moved off the roster if they use the Randle exception. The same is true if they get a Nash exception.

its still not completely clrar but seems like getting the exception messes with teh ability to get a full value out of trading the expiring 9 million contract

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334. "Isn't that what I said? It's either/or "
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Either we trade his full expiring contract or apply for the disabled player exception.

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"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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330. "Last night should've sealed jeremy as starter by default"
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That price knee injury is probably a deep bone bruise. He may be ready by Tuesday but I don't think it makes sense to bring jeremy off the bench after his preseason unless he's not in shape because the injury. 2 team looked different without him on the court. Especially in that first stretch when he sat in the first half- things were just more stagnant.

But Last night he played a pretty robust 32 min including a 18 min straight stretch to start the game and seemed fine for the most part.

Byron said pregame that whoever he started would get a bulk of the minutes and at 30+. I don't mind jeremy coming off the bench, but no way should price be playing more minutes than him.

Last night kind of sealed it but the lakers may need a 3rd string pg unless they want to experiment with Clarkson more as the emergency pg like they did last night. Based off preseason he strikes me more as a 2.

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331. "Introspective Kobe is Endearing"
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y'all still think he won't be able to coach?


http://www.nba.com/lakers/video/2014/11/01/141031BryantPostgamemov-3423660

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332. "No. I think honestly Kobe's knows this team ain't winning more than 25 g..."
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this year and he's not winning shit anymore. So he's determined to do two things at the very least:

1. Look like he can still play a few more years (whether he wants to play longer or not)

and

2. Leave the Lakers as a willing teacher.

But he ain't trying to coach. He on some woosa shit right now. So sense in blacking out every night on a shitty roster.

  

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