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ZooTown74
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""Iverson" Documentary Trailer (link)"


  

          

http://www.deadline.com/2014/04/allen-iverson-movie-trailer-video/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

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I was wondering how the hell Tom Brokaw got involved in this
Apr 23rd 2014
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I went to the Opening Night Party.....
Apr 23rd 2014
2
Way, way too soon. These documentaries are out of hand.
Apr 23rd 2014
3
democratization of creation
Apr 23rd 2014
4
Its basically opportunism/narcissism acting like art
Apr 23rd 2014
7
      *gets paid offa alla dat*
Apr 23rd 2014
8
Documentaries,interesting ones,have been made about active players
Jun 01st 2015
12
Kobe see this, he gonna pay wes aderson 10 mill to make his bio
Apr 23rd 2014
5
Like Kobe doesn't think he can direct and edit it himself.
Apr 23rd 2014
6
isn't there already a Kobe doc coming on Showtime soon??
Apr 23rd 2014
9
by chapters, you mean postcript (or denouement, since you are in L.A.)
Apr 23rd 2014
10
The chapters are written & look like Goodfellas w/helicopters following
Apr 24th 2014
11
Coked up Bean, tryna pick up ALL his Laker money b4 the chopper get him
Jun 01st 2015
13
George Mikan has a better chance of rising from the dead
Jun 02nd 2015
14
GOAT got SPIKE LEE to shoot a documentary on him.....
Jun 02nd 2015
15
      Something meaningful=shooting your team out of games for milestones
Jun 02nd 2015
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           OH? PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT HOW KOBE SHOULD BE IN JAIL.....
Jun 02nd 2015
22
I watched this and of course I would echo what Bomb said
Jun 02nd 2015
17
didnt think it was that good tbh.
Jun 02nd 2015
18
this the same thing that was on showtime?
Jun 02nd 2015
19
i think so. all the stuff in the description was in the one i saw.
Jun 02nd 2015
20
they salvaged it a little by focusing on his youth but yeah, kinda dull
Jun 02nd 2015
21
Outside of the jail, he's probably not that interesting enough for a doc
Jun 02nd 2015
23
lol cmon man he is much more newsworthy than d12 or amare
Jun 03rd 2015
24
      Even the cultural impact angle seems like a blip on history.
Jun 03rd 2015
25

Bombastic
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1. "I was wondering how the hell Tom Brokaw got involved in this"
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then reminded myself that the first time I actually saw Allen Iverson speak on camera it was in an orange jumpsuit with Tom Brokaw while in prison at 17.

Anyway, I'm in, this year's Tribeca Film Fest flick that I wanna see second-most besides "Time Is Illmatic" (which actually looks incredible while this one seems farily standard-issue).

Hopefully they both become leaked to the web, available for sale/rental on Amazon/iTunes/NetFlix or get shown somewhere in L.A. soon.

  

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2. "I went to the Opening Night Party....."
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to my dismay the only thing served were Jack Daniels appetizer samplers.

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Orbit_Established
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3. "Way, way too soon. These documentaries are out of hand. "
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Everyone trying to make a buck and make their fucking name

let these stories simmer for FIVE minutes

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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KosherSam
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4. "democratization of creation"
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Wed Apr-23-14 12:55 PM by KosherSam

  

          

used to be that you needed a ton of money to get the good equipment to make a cinematic-looking documentary. Then you needed connections to get it shown anywhere, unless it happened to be spectacular on its own merit.

As technology has improved, you can make something that can be shown on a 40 foot screen with a camera that costs less than 2 grand. Combine that with Youtube/Vimeo and Kickstarter funding, and suddenly everyone's a documentarian.

*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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Orbit_Established
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7. "Its basically opportunism/narcissism acting like art"
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I'm not really mad

But I'm not gonna call it anything else either

This is the lesser of the two evils, but it is an evil

  

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KosherSam
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8. "*gets paid offa alla dat*"
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*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

<-- In Pigpen we trust

  

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12. "Documentaries,interesting ones,have been made about active players"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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5. "Kobe see this, he gonna pay wes aderson 10 mill to make his bio"
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yes, i stole this from elgin tawkin bout reasonable doubt on twitter. doesn't make it any less true.

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6. "Like Kobe doesn't think he can direct and edit it himself."
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9. "isn't there already a Kobe doc coming on Showtime soon??"
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plus..

Kobe still got NBA chapters to write...

as much as the LakerHaterNation is hoping and praying for this to be the end.... again...they'll be dissapointed

  

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10. "by chapters, you mean postcript (or denouement, since you are in L.A.)"
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One Hundred.

  

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11. "The chapters are written & look like Goodfellas w/helicopters following"
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>plus..
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>Kobe still got NBA chapters to write...
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>as much as the LakerHaterNation is hoping and praying for this
>to be the end.... again...they'll be dissapointed

  

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13. "Coked up Bean, tryna pick up ALL his Laker money b4 the chopper get him"
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14. "George Mikan has a better chance of rising from the dead"
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than Kobe has of doing anything meaningful in the NBA again.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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15. "GOAT got SPIKE LEE to shoot a documentary on him....."
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Tue Jun-02-15 12:32 AM by Kira

  

          

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This AI documentary ain't touching THIS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chi8zcJUib4

*waves a fist full of rings for you haters.*

FIVE.... NOT WINGS, NOT 5 MILLION ON BOTTLE SERVICE, NOT 5 TIMES SHOWING UP TO PRACTICE SOBER BUT FIVE RINGS.

OH AND GOAT HAS ANOTHER DOCUMENTARY AS WELL.

By the way Kobe already did something meaningful this season...

  

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16. "Something meaningful=shooting your team out of games for milestones"
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Tue Jun-02-15 01:24 AM by ConcreteCharlie

  

          

you can point out the rings, the other difference between kobe and ai is that ai went to jail whereas kobe should have.

meanwhile tim duncan and lebron still ruling the nba, so ...

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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22. "OH? PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT HOW KOBE SHOULD BE IN JAIL....."
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>you can point out the rings, the other difference between
>kobe and ai is that ai went to jail whereas kobe should have.


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>meanwhile tim duncan and lebron still ruling the nba, so ...

Lebron is younger and his mileage far surpasses Kobe at the same age. Seriously, go dig up the minutes comparisons between them and realize you're cysing Lebron. How is Tim Duncan ruling the NBA? Tim Duncan is not a shooting guard so this comparison always fails. You need to pray to the reach gods to give you a better shooting guard to use as an example because you fucking suck at this.

  

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17. "I watched this and of course I would echo what Bomb said"
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Nuthin new, nuthin new, y'all aint sayin nuthin new (c) thought.

There was maybe a clarification or two but overall no new details. Some of the peripheral people (Reebok VP, prison guard, his friends) were somewhat interesting.

It seemed like the producers were trying to reinforce the point that he didn't hate white people for some reason, which I thought was odd.

It was cool to re-live some of the great moments of his career. It was light on Georgetown stuff to me. At some point they started yaddah-yaddah-yaddah-ing events, but they spent a while on the well-known turning points of his career. That's more of a decision than a good or bad thing, but the parts about his youth were more gripping than the parts about him as a national celebrity.

I thought their examination of the PRACTICE!?! presser was pretty good, that's one part that they took a while on and justified their decision.

Parts of it were a little cliched but it didn't detract from sadness of the distrust of his youth and then the uplifting aspects (but also bittersweet) of the success he enjoyed later.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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18. "didnt think it was that good tbh."
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there's nothing new you could tell us about AI's career though. maybe his post-bball life will be interesting.

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19. "this the same thing that was on showtime?"
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i haven't seen that yet, but from what i heard it didn't offer anything new that the 3030 didn't cover.

but maybe this is something else.

  

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20. "i think so. all the stuff in the description was in the one i saw."
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21. "they salvaged it a little by focusing on his youth but yeah, kinda dull"
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but also we have to realize that the audience is not hardcore fans and may or may not people who lived through his stardom. overall it gave a pretty comprehensive picture of his life until recently and did what it could with what was available to the filmmakers. i think it was OK, wouldnt hate on it, it was what it was on its face.

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23. "Outside of the jail, he's probably not that interesting enough for a doc"
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That's probably why it fell flat. He had nothing to say, beside "I'm gonna do this my way." blah blah blah.

Not everybody needs a documentary.

Same reason why I see a lot of them joints on Netflix (Steven Nash, Amare, Dwight) and pass.

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24. "lol cmon man he is much more newsworthy than d12 or amare"
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i mean the whole cultural impact angle is there, too. if anything i feel like the reason it didnt pop was that his story has been done to death already, which doesnt happen to boring stories. i mean i am not saying is the most noteworthy subject, but it's hardly surprising that they made this and it probably won't be the last time.

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25. "Even the cultural impact angle seems like a blip on history."
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He lead people down the path of getting tattoos, dressing horribly to games, and getting cornrows for about 4 years.

You can only get about 5 mins of a documentary to make that interesting.

The climax of his story is winning the MVP, leading a team to the Finals, and winning a game.

After he steps of Lue, there's not much else that's interesting.

Professionally? No. Never contended again.

Personally? There doesn't seem to be more to him than a guy with some small run-ins with the law and family stuff.

But the jail storyline was great. The 30 for 30 killed it.

For example, I watched the Dominique SEC Story twice. Never knew of that story, and it was interesting to see how it impacted his life. But after that, not much else to Nique. Iverson is the same way.

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