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Walleye
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""You cannot control what you love...." -- Twins 2014 Season Post"


          

Graham Greene continues: "... you watch it driving recklessly toward the broken bridge, the torn up track, the horror of seventy years ahead."

Here is the 2014 Twins Opening Day Roster

Rotation:
Ricky Nolasco
Phil Hughes
Kevin Correia
Mike Pelfrey
Kyle Gibson

Bullpen:
Glen Perkins
Jared Burton
Sam Fuckin' Deduno
Caleb Thielbar
Brian Duensing
Anthony Swarzak
Casey Fien

Infield:
Joe Mauer
Brian Dozier
Pedro Florimon
Trevor Plouffe
Eduardo Escobar
Chris Colabello

Outfield:
Aaron Hicks
Josh Willingham
Oswaldo Arcia

Catcher:
Josmil Pinto
Kurt Suzuki

Reunion Committee:
Jason Kubel
Jason Bartlett

______________________________

"Walleye, a lot of things are going to go wrong in your life that technically aren't your fault. Always remember that this doesn't make you any less of an idiot"

--Walleye's Dad

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
On our bullpen
Mar 28th 2014
1
On Jason Bartlett
Mar 28th 2014
2
STrib: Twins' awful and stupid rationale for this bad decision
Mar 28th 2014
3
On Seasonal Pick'ems
Mar 29th 2014
4
most of these would qualify for "cruel and unusual" status
Mar 31st 2014
9
You really nixed a lot of my aspirational matchups
Mar 31st 2014
11
Mine!
Mar 31st 2014
13
Does Dozier have a nickname? Cuz during my fantasy draft I
Mar 29th 2014
5
I'm sure Gardenhire calls him "Dozy"
Mar 29th 2014
6
On planning your vacation for MiLB affiliates
Mar 30th 2014
7
4/1 - 4/3 @ Chicago: Probables, Pick'ems, Pretending
Mar 31st 2014
8
any chance quintana has a ball rag on the mound?
Mar 31st 2014
10
That creep can roll
Mar 31st 2014
12
Optimism for a grey day
Mar 31st 2014
14
that kind of optimism should come with cotton candy
Mar 31st 2014
15
Duensing to paternity leave, Tonkin up
Mar 31st 2014
16
Who had Suzuki for driving in the first run(s) of the year?
Mar 31st 2014
17
I complained enough to guarantee it
Mar 31st 2014
18
That double play could have lasted all season as playoftheyear
Mar 31st 2014
19
Josh Rangingham
Mar 31st 2014
20
This is why you don't carry Jason Bartlett on this roster
Mar 31st 2014
21
Why the shit is Jason Kubel on the roster if he's not hitting here?
Mar 31st 2014
22
Arcia wants this... a lot
Mar 31st 2014
23
Paulino is still in that TJ-recovery phrase
Apr 02nd 2014
24
If I was a NRI just two months ago, as Jason Kubel was...
Apr 02nd 2014
25
So that's how review works?
Apr 02nd 2014
27
I loved Hicks' take on 3-1
Apr 02nd 2014
26
So that went poorly
Apr 03rd 2014
28
i think sam 'fuckin' deduno is our best nickname yet ...
Apr 03rd 2014
29
right?! i don't even really change the inflection that much
Apr 03rd 2014
30
Actual factuals
Apr 03rd 2014
31
4/3 lineups + Thelma and the Sleaze "High Class Woman"
Apr 03rd 2014
32
This umpire is the lone holdout on the new, higher strikezone
Apr 03rd 2014
33
Settled down Hughes looks sharp
Apr 03rd 2014
34
We suck in a way more interesting way than last year so far
Apr 03rd 2014
35
      Oswaldo! Twins win!
Apr 03rd 2014
36
           Wish I could have watched the game
Apr 04th 2014
37
                Mostly luck, but also yes
Apr 04th 2014
38
Sam Fuckin' Deduno makes BPro's "best pitches"
Apr 04th 2014
39
lulz
Apr 04th 2014
43
4/4-4/6 - Twins in the Cleeeeeeeve, Probables/Pick'ems
Apr 04th 2014
40
I'll check out the video when I'm not at work
Apr 04th 2014
41
Great minds... except for stolen bases
Apr 04th 2014
42
Gibson! Offense!
Apr 06th 2014
44
First game I actually got to watch
Apr 06th 2014
45
      I'd love for him to become a tradable asset
Apr 06th 2014
46
Colabello's double
Apr 06th 2014
47
Arcia or Willingham to DL, Herrmann up
Apr 07th 2014
48
I watched the Oakland game today and am now all-in on Colabello
Apr 07th 2014
49
He's fascinating
Apr 08th 2014
50
Twins acquire Eduardo Nunez
Apr 08th 2014
51
Trevor May: me first!
Apr 09th 2014
52
BPro's backfield notes - Walker/Polanco
Apr 09th 2014
53
Arcia DL'd, Glen Perkins takes up the "fuck you" responsibilities
Apr 10th 2014
54
i like your 'rosier' scouting reports more
Apr 10th 2014
55
      /tips cap
Apr 10th 2014
56
Mike Pelfrey threw 94% fastballs in his last start
Apr 10th 2014
57
Draft update / return of Buxton
Apr 10th 2014
58
BA: Buxton DL'd into May
Apr 14th 2014
59
Probables/Pick'em vs. Blue Jays 4/15-4/17
Apr 15th 2014
60
Fun with small samples: Pedro Florimon's weird fucking season
Apr 15th 2014
61
Mackey: Would Byron Buxton currently be one of the best Twins?
Apr 17th 2014
62
Kyle Gibson: Fluke or Duke?
Apr 17th 2014
63
31 degrees, coldest ever if I read right?
Apr 17th 2014
64
Eighth inning of the late game
Apr 17th 2014
65
      el. oh. el.
Apr 17th 2014
66
He's not *this* good, but this is what good Kyle Gibson looks like
Apr 18th 2014
67
your ray of optimism: if the season ended today, we're in the playoffs.
Apr 18th 2014
68
Does Joe Mauer suck now?
Apr 21st 2014
69
Sam Fuld... in... the ... fold?
Apr 22nd 2014
70
semi-related spinoff
Apr 23rd 2014
72
      Yeah, it's hardly the bold moving-forward I'd hoped for
Apr 23rd 2014
73
BUXTON!... back?
Apr 23rd 2014
71
Fun Alex Meyer line
Apr 23rd 2014
74
Will Middlebrooks for Twins GM
Apr 24th 2014
75
Fangraphs: Twins new plan - don't swing
Apr 27th 2014
76
Who's for real?
Apr 28th 2014
77
Alex Meyer's right arm: fuck you. pay me.
Apr 28th 2014
78
Berardino: Josmil Pinto working at it
Apr 29th 2014
79
Jim Callis draft updates
Apr 30th 2014
80
4/30-5/1 Twins vs. Dodgers, probables, pick'ems
Apr 30th 2014
81
I don't think they're playing a game in this series
Apr 30th 2014
82
That's disappointing
Apr 30th 2014
83
So that's the last time Plouffe is greenlit on 3-0, right?
Apr 30th 2014
84
Trevor May, latest 11K member of Rochester rotation
May 01st 2014
85
Well, that sucked... draft talk?
May 02nd 2014
86
5/5-5/8 in the Cleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve, Probables, pick'em
May 05th 2014
87
no escobar playing outfield vs escobar flyball muffs?
May 08th 2014
89
      In my defense, there were enough outfielders on the active roster...
May 08th 2014
90
Another year, another "Twins strike below-slot draft deal" rumor
May 07th 2014
88
It's... a... ROUNDUP: Hicks, Buxton, Berrios, Cast of Thousands
May 15th 2014
91
was going to ask about this hicksian drama ...
May 16th 2014
94
      RE: was going to ask about this hicksian drama ...
May 16th 2014
95
           the latter
May 16th 2014
96
because big papi ... RELEVANT!
May 15th 2014
92
"Don't!"
May 15th 2014
93
Smoke/fire: Three more mocks have Twins on Gordon in june draft
May 16th 2014
97
Going off-script in the draft: Touki Toussaint
May 20th 2014
98
Everybody to the limit! Phil Hughes is to the limit!
May 20th 2014
99
Twins in BPro's Monday Ten Pack
May 20th 2014
100
We going to forest/trees this team?
May 21st 2014
101
Sickels: Prospect of the day, Alex Meyer
May 21st 2014
102
Meet Baseball's New Most Underrated Player: Brian Dozier
May 22nd 2014
103
Zobrist, huh?
May 22nd 2014
104
      That'd make him a 6-7 win player
May 22nd 2014
105
Aaron Hicks doesn't "turn around to hit left-handed" results thread
May 27th 2014
106
Danny Santana with a walk off tip
May 27th 2014
107
Twins baseball!
May 27th 2014
108
KLaw Chat: It's Nola or Gordon for Twins
May 28th 2014
109
Gordon fits better with what the Twins have been doing
May 28th 2014
110
I caught a walleye yesterday
Jun 05th 2014
111
LAWD, take correia away from us, PLEASE!
Jun 06th 2014
112
May and Meyer are both better *right now*
Jun 06th 2014
113
BA on Burdi
Jun 06th 2014
114
correia isn't built for the AL
Jun 06th 2014
116
      Would but Bomb were responsible for evaluating offers
Jun 06th 2014
117
Bring Back Vance
Jun 06th 2014
115
Wow @ Cederoth... another 100mph+ fastball
Jun 06th 2014
118
Berrios passing Kohl Stewart?
Jun 06th 2014
119
you get kendrys morales!
Jun 07th 2014
120
Huh
Jun 08th 2014
121
Gordon signs for slot
Jun 09th 2014
122
26%
Jun 10th 2014
123
thanks for this, btw
Jun 12th 2014
127
      Gross
Jun 12th 2014
128
I can't tell a Correia fastball from a changeup
Jun 10th 2014
124
Brian Dozier is the best 2B in the AL right now / Rosario returns
Jun 11th 2014
125
ugh... this Kendrys Morales thing is going to get me hopeful
Jun 11th 2014
126
Roundup! - Burdi, Perkins/Pinto, Berrios, Rochester commuters
Jun 18th 2014
129
kiss kiss bang bang flashbacks
Jun 18th 2014
130
      It's slightly weird how much I have in common with other Twins fans
Jun 18th 2014
131
           a little from A and a little from B
Jun 18th 2014
132
                I'll take it
Jun 18th 2014
133
                     only got 15 minutes deep before family responsibilities took over
Jun 19th 2014
136
                          Hooray for Gay Perry!
Jun 20th 2014
137
Kyle Gibson scouts Kyle Gibson
Jun 18th 2014
134
Jinxes are dumb, but goddamn Jack Morris
Jun 18th 2014
135
First four game sweep in Target Field
Jun 23rd 2014
138
for a team in spitting distance of .500, they're unexceptional
Jun 23rd 2014
139
      That's a good point - good teams have award candidates
Jun 23rd 2014
140
Wow... Yohan Pino optioned, Jorge Polanco promoted from Ft. Myers
Jun 26th 2014
141
Welcome to the majors!
Jun 28th 2014
154
i think yesterday makes it eight straight road losses ...
Jun 27th 2014
142
It's been a sweep/sweep/sweep right?
Jun 27th 2014
143
      we got the first one in detroit ... then ... not so good
Jun 27th 2014
144
           Knowing the Brodie arc... is that a good reason?
Jun 27th 2014
145
                bodie has some of the best interplay with the police in the show
Jun 27th 2014
146
                     That's a good point - McNulty & Bodie together were gold
Jun 27th 2014
147
                          Walleye, are you getting into The Wire?
Jun 27th 2014
148
                               Not freshly - I caught the last two seasons on-air
Jun 27th 2014
150
                                    My only difference might be flipping 1 and 3
Jun 27th 2014
151
                                         ooh! wire season rankings!
Jun 27th 2014
152
                                              I think we're going to have to require a commitment
Jun 27th 2014
153
                                              Follow-up: What is the genre?
Jul 03rd 2014
159
MiLB roundup: Hicks, Gordon, Buxton, Futures
Jun 27th 2014
149
LEN3 seems like he's filing stories from his phone: Buxton update
Jun 28th 2014
155
Twins sign Huascar Ynoa, 800K
Jul 02nd 2014
156
Mauer to DL, Colabello up
Jul 02nd 2014
157
Some fun MiLB stuff: Tossing Thorpedos in Cedar Rapids
Jul 03rd 2014
158
What is a Zelous Wheeler and why is he homering off us?
Jul 03rd 2014
160
He's like 27 and making his MLB debut
Jul 03rd 2014
161
Holy crap, Dellin Betances is a giant human
Jul 03rd 2014
162
STUFF: Trades, Buxton, Meyer, Sano, Berrios
Jul 08th 2014
163
Batting .333 on free agency so far - Hughes great, Nolasco/Pelf DL'd
Jul 09th 2014
164
Buxton busts out... is promptly hit on the wrist by a pitch
Jul 21st 2014
165
wait ... what?
Jul 21st 2014
166
      Doing it well in New Britain
Jul 21st 2014
167
           that's cool.
Jul 24th 2014
169
Brian Dozier: trade or keep as foundational?
Jul 21st 2014
168
is rosario as 2B not a thing anymore?
Jul 24th 2014
170
      He's been playing all three OF positions and second base
Jul 24th 2014
171
           Though, they're still playing Polanco at SS
Jul 24th 2014
172
                From my keyboard to Terry Ryan's ears... Polanco promoted
Jul 24th 2014
173
Morales to Seattle for Stephen Pryor
Jul 24th 2014
174
Good signing, I guess?
Jul 24th 2014
175
You guys just about done with the non-prospect Rochester commute?
Jul 29th 2014
176
Milone-for-Fuld
Jul 31st 2014
177
Kennys Vargas called up/Suzuki signed/Milone assigned to ROCH
Jul 31st 2014
178
Free Daniel Santana (to his actual position)
Aug 03rd 2014
179
that's a rough commute for pinto.
Aug 04th 2014
180
Whoops. Yeah, I think that's probably a lot to ask of him
Aug 04th 2014
181
      was the scuttlebutt about hicks being unprofessional in his approach
Aug 04th 2014
182
           I mean... probably, but stuff like that is usually working backwards
Aug 04th 2014
183
                we had this conversation mid-thread. lo siento.
Aug 05th 2014
185
                     Yeah, you know how I feel about repetition on Twins' threads
Aug 05th 2014
186
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd, Hicks promoted to AAA Rochester
Aug 05th 2014
187
Glen Perkins: SCIENCE!
Aug 04th 2014
184
Vargas!
Aug 05th 2014
188
It's Trevor May-day! (tomorrow)
Aug 08th 2014
189
i cheered in my car when i heard this: kevin correia, los angeles dodger
Aug 11th 2014
190
I thought it was a dream when I heard
Aug 11th 2014
191
Willingham traded to Royals for Jason Adam
Aug 11th 2014
192
Mauer return, Milone debut, Schafer runs, Buxton promoted
Aug 12th 2014
193
I should add: there are two spots on the 40 man
Aug 12th 2014
194
Jesus fucking hell @ Byron Buxton's collision
Aug 14th 2014
195
Concussion, no other significant injuries according to the Pioneer Press
Aug 14th 2014
196
I hope so
Aug 14th 2014
197
      I'd rather he recover fully than get a week or two in AA ball
Aug 14th 2014
199
           Yeah, exactly
Aug 14th 2014
200
so busy at work, didn't have time to come in here for hugs
Aug 15th 2014
201
      Interesting
Aug 15th 2014
202
Mauer's last 95 plate appearances
Aug 14th 2014
198
Right on cue, walks
Aug 18th 2014
204
Oswaldo Arcia: "We don't pay you for hits"
Aug 15th 2014
203
#NOLASCOOUT
Aug 21st 2014
205
Definitely not over-recting
Aug 22nd 2014
206
      two things to add
Aug 22nd 2014
207
           Yeah, Nolasco's environment switch is definitely big
Aug 22nd 2014
208
This 6th inning against Detroit, though
Aug 22nd 2014
209
Double Dimes
Aug 22nd 2014
210
      I can't stop watching that Arcia homerun
Aug 23rd 2014
211
Fun with Nick Burdi's minor league stats
Aug 25th 2014
212
18k/9 is fun to think about for a moment
Aug 25th 2014
213
      If the organization had a personality transplant...
Aug 25th 2014
214
Nice start from Nolasco wasted, Buxton, return of Sano
Aug 27th 2014
215
Great news on points 2 and 3
Aug 27th 2014
216
More Arizona Fall League stuff: Burdi, remember Levi Michael, etc.
Aug 27th 2014
217
I haven't done a lot of post-rating, but this seems like a weird one
Aug 27th 2014
218
What's a Jordan Schafer?
Aug 29th 2014
219
Twins break two year streak of pitching starts without ten strikeouts......
Sep 15th 2014
220
Curveball at :46 - more, please
Sep 15th 2014
221
Twins looking for new AA affiliate?
Sep 17th 2014
222
It's Chattanooga
Sep 18th 2014
226
Nolasco figuring it out?
Sep 17th 2014
223
b!
Sep 17th 2014
224
      Good memory
Sep 17th 2014
225
fourth straight 90 loss season.
Sep 23rd 2014
227
I enjoyed his post-game revelation that it's been a bad year
Sep 23rd 2014
228
In order to destroy the clone army, Phil Hughes had to join it
Sep 25th 2014
229
Byron Buxton cleared for *all* baseball activities
Sep 27th 2014
230
It's been real, it's been nice, but lately it hasn't been REAL NICE....b...
Sep 29th 2014
231
Gardenhire fired
Sep 29th 2014
232
No, but it's been time for him to go
Sep 29th 2014
233
      *and entire coaching staff
Sep 29th 2014
234
      He did a good job, but if there were ever a time to flail around for new...
Sep 29th 2014
235
           kind of happy, kind of sad
Sep 30th 2014
236
2015 Twins manager candidate power rankings!
Oct 07th 2014
237
what? no ozzie?
Oct 08th 2014
238
      Oh dear / Sandy Alomar
Oct 10th 2014
239
           plus, he played catcher, so you know he's smart
Oct 10th 2014
240
                Right?!
Oct 10th 2014
241
                     after damn near 30 years of boring
Oct 10th 2014
243
                          Selling white walls in heaven
Oct 10th 2014
244
Miguel Sano: LFer?
Oct 10th 2014
242
Alomar, DeMarlo Hale, McEwing out
Oct 21st 2014
245
but, but, but ...
Oct 22nd 2014
246
      STrib: Molitor has 3rd meeting (but not offered job yet)
Oct 22nd 2014
247
           what do you talk about at a 3rd meeting with an internal candidate?
Oct 22nd 2014
248
No swipe STrib roundup: Managers, Burton, winterball
Oct 23rd 2014
249

Walleye
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1. "On our bullpen"
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With the substantial caveat that the bullpen is typically the most volatile group on a team, I rather like this group. There are strikeouts (Perkins, Duensing, Fien, and Burton all averaged over 8 per 9 innings last year), lefties (Duensing, Perkins, and Thielbar), and guys capable of working multiple innings (Swarzak and Fuckin' Deduno).

Throw in some very ready relief prospects (Tonkin and Guerra) that can hopefully cover the aforementioned volatility and I think this team can hold a lot of leads that our starting offense and defense wont create for them.

This conversation-starter is brought to you by watching Sam Fuckin' Deduno get just a ton of swings and misses on *fastballs* against the Red Sox. There is potential for high-value filthiness there.

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"Walleye, a lot of things are going to go wrong in your life that technically aren't your fault. Always remember that this doesn't make you any less of an idiot"

--Walleye's Dad

  

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Walleye
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2. "On Jason Bartlett"
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Fri Mar-28-14 02:40 PM by Walleye

          

I have yet to see a compelling example of one thing that he did to make this roster. And no, "clubhouse attitude chemist" does not count.

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--Walleye's Dad

  

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Walleye
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3. "STrib: Twins' awful and stupid rationale for this bad decision"
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The answer is chemistry. As though players will voluntarily turn to a guy who hit .133/.240/.193 for some "how to be a big leaguer" advice.

You know this is a weird decision when the guy who made it still seems sort of mystified about how it happened. Antony's quotes at the end can best be characterized as "befuddled."

http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/252838671.html

Twins tab Bartlett as backup, clubhouse attitude chemist

Article by: PHIL MILLER , Star Tribune Updated: March 28, 2014 - 10:27 AM

The Twins waived Alex Presley, leaving a career infielder and good clubhouse guy as the presumptive backup in center.

FORT MYERS, FLA. The Twins completed their Opening Day team on Thursday by awarding roster spots to a pitcher, a hitter and a chemist.

Kyle Gibson officially became Minnesotas fifth starter, Chris Colabello was rewarded for batting .350 this spring with a bench spot, and Jason Bartlett was hired to make over the atmosphere in the clubhouse. Yes, hell back up five or six positions, too, but were trying to maybe change that clubhouse environment a little bit, said assistant general manager Rob Antony, and I think he can be part of doing that.

That unusual admission about team chemistry came shortly after lefthander Scott Diamond and first baseman Chris Parmelee cleared waivers and were outrighted to Class AAA Rochester and outfielder Alex Presley was claimed off waivers by the Houston Astros.

The moves (and the upcoming formality of assigning of extra catcher Dan Rohlfing to the minors) complete the Twins Opening Day roster though Antony and manager Ron Gardenhire made it clear that more changes are possible.

We can claim people, just like everybody else, Gardenhire said. There are people out there we know let go who we like. So there are possibilities out there for us to change this.

Change is definitely the goal, considering the Twins have lost 96 or more games for three consecutive seasons. And in keeping Bartlett, who was out of baseball last season and has gone 3-for-36 this spring, the Twins revealed an uncomfortable truth about the damage all the losing has done: The team needs a dose of professional seasoning.

Jasons a winner, manager Ron Gardenhire said. He knows how to play, he knows what it takes. We need some of that. Were a little lost out there right now. Were trying to figure it out.

Bartlett said he believes he can help. Its a skill he says he learned from Torii Hunter during his first stint with the Twins.

Ive been on some good teams, and Ive been in some good clubhouses. Its about being approachable, being a veteran, keeping the clubhouse loose, the 34-year-old ex-Twins shortstop said. Showing guys not only how to play the game the right way, but how to deal with the day-in-day-out grind. If you have a bad game, let it go. Youll have another day. Ive heard last year guys were struggling and it took a toll. I can try to help get through the tough times.

By waiving Presley and keeping Bartlett, the Twins have ostensibly made him the backup center fielder, a position he never has played at any level. Bartlett said he has worked hard to get comfortable at the position, and Gardenhire said he expects Aaron Hicks to play almost every day anyway.

I dont need a backup center fielder, Gardenhire said. But we can move around anyplace. I want interchangeable parts.

Especially if they hit. Bartlett believes his bat might be coming around, too.

Obviously I didnt exactly tear the cover off the ball, but I thought I did have good at-bats, Bartlett said. I feel like Im just one good day away, and Ill be right back there.

Colabello, now the backup first baseman and righthanded DH, has been right there all spring, and being righthanded gave him an advantage over Parmelee, too.

Bottom line, hes killing the ball. Hes just been killing it all spring, Gardenhire said of the International Leagues 2013 MVP. He came in to make the team, and he did that.

Diamond, Parmelee and, perhaps most surprising, Presley did not. Acquired from Pittsburgh in the Justin Morneau trade last August, Presley made a good first impression last season but didnt do much to ignite the offense this spring.

I was a little surprised that his speed didnt play better, in the outfield and on the bases, Antony said. Coming into spring training, I didnt see how he wasnt going to be on the team.

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"Walleye, a lot of things are going to go wrong in your life that technically aren't your fault. Always remember that this doesn't make you any less of an idiot"

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4. "On Seasonal Pick'ems"
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Gonna try and work the whole 25-man roster in here

Joe Mauer's OBA vs. Twins Winning Percentage
Aaron Hicks steals vs. Josh Willingham homeruns
Anthony Swarzak innings vs. Twins' losses
Ricky Nolasco strikeouts vs. Phil Hughes innings
Oswaldo Arcia grandslams vs. Oswaldo Arcia HBP
Trevor Plouffe triples vs. Miguel Sano MLB plate appearances
Alex Meyer MLB innings vs. Jason Bartlett plate appearances
Kyle Gibson wins vs. Pedro Florimon homeruns
Brian Dozier homeruns vs. Jason Kubel extra base hits
Kevin Correia strikeouts vs. Glen Perkins strikeouts
Casey Fien wins vs. Joe Mauer homeruns
Sam 'Fuckin' Deduno appearances vs. Mike Pelfrey walks
Brian Duensing uniforms vs. Eduardo Escobar homeruns
Caleb Thielbar homeruns allows vs. Chris Colabello positions
Josmil Pinto batting average vs. Kurt Suzuki OBA

Bonus:
Byron Buxton MLB plate appearances vs. Twins' playoff games

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--Walleye's Dad

  

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9. "most of these would qualify for "cruel and unusual" status"
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for my brain. thank you. i will combat this with gardenhire nickname answers.

>Joe Mauer's OBA vs. Twins Winning Percentage
mauer-sy
>Aaron Hicks steals vs. Josh Willingham homeruns
willingham-sy
>Anthony Swarzak innings vs. Twins' losses
swarzak-sy
>Ricky Nolasco strikeouts vs. Phil Hughes innings
nolasco-sy
>Oswaldo Arcia grandslams vs. Oswaldo Arcia HBP
HBP-sy
>Trevor Plouffe triples vs. Miguel Sano MLB plate appearances
plouffe-sy
>Alex Meyer MLB innings vs. Jason Bartlett plate appearances
bartlett-sy
>Kyle Gibson wins vs. Pedro Florimon homeruns
gibson-sy
>Brian Dozier homeruns vs. Jason Kubel extra base hits
kubel-sy
>Kevin Correia strikeouts vs. Glen Perkins strikeouts
perkins-sy
>Casey Fien wins vs. Joe Mauer homeruns
mauer-sy
>Sam 'Fuckin' Deduno appearances vs. Mike Pelfrey walks
deduno-sy
>Brian Duensing uniforms vs. Eduardo Escobar homeruns
escobar-sy
>Caleb Thielbar homeruns allows vs. Chris Colabello positions
thielbar-sy
>Josmil Pinto batting average vs. Kurt Suzuki OBA
pinto-sy

>Bonus:
>Byron Buxton MLB plate appearances vs. Twins' playoff games
buxton-sy

  

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11. "You really nixed a lot of my aspirational matchups"
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That's probably smart on your part.

>>Anthony Swarzak innings vs. Twins' losses
>swarzak-sy

I'm going to pretend this is a blip in optimism in your picks (no way Swarzak goes 96 innings all in relief again, not with a reconstituted rotation) when in reality it's probably the opposite (no way anything has changed, he'll be cleaning up 4-6th inning messes all season).

>>Oswaldo Arcia grandslams vs. Oswaldo Arcia HBP
>HBP-sy

I love how much other pitchers seem to dislike him. He got obviously thrown at several times just in spring training. When Sano arrives, invest in a company that makes elbow pads because those two are going to, in okayparlance, make a lot of folks mad.

>>Alex Meyer MLB innings vs. Jason Bartlett plate appearances
>bartlett-sy

This pick'em's even-ness is entirely contingent on Bartlett getting floated out on Lake Harriet while Terry Ryan ignites his funeral pyre with flaming arrows. I wish I disagreed with you.

>>Sam 'Fuckin' Deduno appearances vs. Mike Pelfrey walks
>deduno-sy

Unmitigated good news here. Unless Pelfrey gets hurt which... I guess that's not a disaster.

>>Caleb Thielbar homeruns allows vs. Chris Colabello positions
>thielbar-sy

A thousand times yes to "Thielbar-sy" as the perfect exposition of Gardenhire's dumbass nicknaming. I vote that we adopt it. Because irony.

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13. "Mine!"
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>Joe Mauer's OBA vs. Twins Winning Percentage

Twins

>Aaron Hicks steals vs. Josh Willingham homeruns

Hicks... with the cheat that he'll steal more than Willingham hits as a Twin.

>Anthony Swarzak innings vs. Twins' losses

Swarzak

>Ricky Nolasco strikeouts vs. Phil Hughes innings

Hughes

>Oswaldo Arcia grandslams vs. Oswaldo Arcia HBP

HBP... by a lot. He's going to get hit a lot.

>Trevor Plouffe triples vs. Miguel Sano MLB plate appearances

give me Sano in September.

>Alex Meyer MLB innings vs. Jason Bartlett plate appearances

Meyer. Please.

>Kyle Gibson wins vs. Pedro Florimon homeruns

Gibson

>Brian Dozier homeruns vs. Jason Kubel extra base hits

Dozier... because Kubel gets the the boot, the bat, *and* the bastinada by Memorial Day.

>Kevin Correia strikeouts vs. Glen Perkins strikeouts

Why the hell did I do this? There's no happy pick. Assuming continued bat-missing decline by Correia, Perkins could do this with ten more innings. But then we get the bummer of a one-inning reliever striking out more than a 30+ appearance starter. Or it doesn't happen because Perkins gets an absurdly low 62 innings again because he's never protecting any leads.

/kicks self in balls

I'm not making a pick here. Fuck this one.

>Casey Fien wins vs. Joe Mauer homeruns

Mauer! "Power"!

>Sam 'Fuckin' Deduno appearances vs. Mike Pelfrey walks

Fuckin' Deduno

>Brian Duensing uniforms vs. Eduardo Escobar homeruns

Duensing

>Caleb Thielbar homeruns allows vs. Chris Colabello positions

I got... four for Collabello? Call it a draw.

>Josmil Pinto batting average vs. Kurt Suzuki OBA

pinto!

>Bonus:
>Byron Buxton MLB plate appearances vs. Twins' playoff games

Ugh. Another "why". Draw. Zero for both.

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5. "Does Dozier have a nickname? Cuz during my fantasy draft I"
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thought of "Bulldozier"

that's pretty good, right?

  

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6. "I'm sure Gardenhire calls him "Dozy""
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Since that's his nickname template for basically everybody. So with that as your bar, carry on with "Bulldozier."

I used to call him "Jesus hell, your hair is fucking stupid what year is this 1992?" until I found out his hair had its own completely underwhelming parody twitter account and realized that joke was played out before I even made it:

https://twitter.com/BDoziersHair20

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7. "On planning your vacation for MiLB affiliates"
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Cedar Rapids:
-Ryan Eades, sp
-Felix Jorge, sp
-Yorman Landa, sp
-Randy Rosario, sp
-Kohl Stewart, sp

Really, the entire Kernels rotation is worth catching. And Lewis Thorpe may join them by late summer. They're still far away, but it's probably the best concentration of talent in any affiliate.

Ft. Myers:
-Jorge Polanco, 2b
-Max Kepler, lf
-Adam Walker, of

Ehhh. Polanco can press Rosario this year for top MI prospect in the organization.

New Britain:
-Byron Buxton, cf
-Eddie Rosario, 2b
-Alex Wimmers, p

Yeah. I'm not off Wimmers. I think he makes a big leap this year.

Rochester:
-Alex Meyer
-Trevor May
- a bunch of guys we'll see commuting

Pitchers with real upside.

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8. "4/1 - 4/3 @ Chicago: Probables, Pick'ems, Pretending"
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Nolasco vs. Sale
Correia vs. Paulino
Hughes vs. Quintana

I have an idea that the White Sox wont suck this year. I think they've got a nice little club there and though their farm system lags well behind the Twins, they're rebuilding around a little more present oomph.

We'll see, I guess. To the pick'ems?

Twins wins vs. White Sox wins
Mauer doubles vs. Arcia HBP (this is developing into a seasonal theme)
Nolasco strikeouts vs. Correia innings
Hughes innings vs. Twins' total XBH
Trevor Plouffe errors vs. Twins triples
Perkins appearances vs. Anthony Swarzak appearances
Brian Dozier reaches base vs. Josh Willingham strikes out

Give me:
White Sox, Arcia, Correia, Twins, Swarzak, and Dozier

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10. "any chance quintana has a ball rag on the mound? "
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because he would win a lot of fans with a jesus impression.

>Twins wins vs. White Sox wins
sox
>Mauer doubles vs. Arcia HBP (this is developing into a
>seasonal theme)
arcia
>Nolasco strikeouts vs. Correia innings
nolasco
>Hughes innings vs. Twins' total XBH
hughes
>Trevor Plouffe errors vs. Twins triples
plouffe
>Perkins appearances vs. Anthony Swarzak appearances
perkins
>Brian Dozier reaches base vs. Josh Willingham strikes out
willingham

  

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12. "That creep can roll"
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He was part of a sneaky good rotation last year, but I think an honest evaluation of his career would lead him to the conclusion that he isn't likely to be so important that he shouldn't embrace the Turturro comparison.

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14. "Optimism for a grey day"
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>Twins wins vs. White Sox wins
TWINS
>Mauer doubles vs. Arcia HBP (this is developing into a
>seasonal theme)
Doubles
>Nolasco strikeouts vs. Correia innings
Innings
>Hughes innings vs. Twins' total XBH
Hits
>Trevor Plouffe errors vs. Twins triples
Triples
>Perkins appearances vs. Anthony Swarzak appearances
Perkins
>Brian Dozier reaches base vs. Josh Willingham strikes out
Dozier

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15. "that kind of optimism should come with cotton candy"
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or a lot of alchohol.

  

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16. "Duensing to paternity leave, Tonkin up"
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It seems like there's a lot of paternity leave right around the beginning of the season.

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17. "Who had Suzuki for driving in the first run(s) of the year?"
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18. "I complained enough to guarantee it"
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Sooooooooo, I'm taking credit.

Also, Plouffe is fucking terrible.

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19. "That double play could have lasted all season as playoftheyear"
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Oh well. I'm glad he caught it anyhow.

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20. "Josh Rangingham"
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Because he... ranged.

It's weird seeing Nolasco nickle and dimed like this. I feel like he's been alright, but suffering a bit too much from "around the plate" syndrome that seems to affect Twins pitchers. He's working some really fine margins and not working them particularly well. So maybe be less fine?

I also don't think Kurt Suzuki's reputation as a game caller is holding up as particularly justified. The walk to Adam Dunn struck me as uniquely un-creative. Fastball up, try to drop curveball in zone away. Two moves for a guy who's re-written the book on ways to strike out?

Lame. Fail big, Kurt Suzuki. There's no good reason for conservatism in a lineup this bad.

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21. "This is why you don't carry Jason Bartlett on this roster"
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Because then you look at your bench and say "who's a better hitter than Pedro Florimon?" and choose Eduardo Escobar.

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22. "Why the shit is Jason Kubel on the roster if he's not hitting here?"
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Apparently it's because we want Lindstrom to stay in the game.

Okay.

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23. "Arcia wants this... a lot"
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Maybe just an opposite field single to score Colabello and keep the rally going?

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24. "Paulino is still in that TJ-recovery phrase"
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Take pitches, Twins.

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25. "If I was a NRI just two months ago, as Jason Kubel was..."
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... I'm taking my single and bunting away from this shift. Not a lot of hits of any kind left in that bat.

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27. "So that's how review works?"
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I was wondering why bother. He either catches Arcia's fly or doesn't and throws Plouffe out at second.

But it's a review plus some kind of sorcery that determines what would have happened without the call on the field influencing Plouffe?

That's pretty weird, but I'll take it.

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26. "I loved Hicks' take on 3-1 "
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The resulting 4-3 groundout was whatever, but he looks (in this miniscule 1.5 game sample) way more comfortable in his game than he did last year. He's aggressive and shooting liners all over the field from the right side and working the count patiently from the left side.

We can work with this.

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28. "So that went poorly"
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We don't really project to have enough leads that it's easy to shrug off the bullpen dropping one. The good news was Correia going six strong; Kubel actually turning on some real, live RH fastballs (something he couldn't do in spring training); and Hicks(-y) continuing his strong start. I think he could go hitless for the rest of April and still have a better first month than last year.

I didn't care for Suzuki's pitch calling with Deduno. I like the new "don't be afraid to dirt some pitches" narrative that's emerging with the Twins' staff, but Fuckin' Deduno is sufficiently nasty even around the plate that the amount of bendy stuff was a bit unnecessary.

Hughes today.

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29. "i think sam 'fuckin' deduno is our best nickname yet ... "
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works on so many levels.

  

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30. "right?! i don't even really change the inflection that much"
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n/m

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31. "Actual factuals"
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We're due for one today, though, right? If the whole state's about to be locked down for an April snowstorm, we better at least have something to watch.

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32. "4/3 lineups + Thelma and the Sleaze "High Class Woman""
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCFEHTu7qK4


Pinto gets a day. Righties against "No One Fucks with the Jesus".

TWINS

Dozier 2B
Mauer DH
Willingham LF
Colabello 1B
Plouffe 3B
Arcia RF
Pinto C
Hicks CF
Escobar SS

Hughes RHP

WHITE SOX

Eaton CF
Semien 3B
Abreu 1B
Dunn DH
A. Garcia RF
De Aza LF
Ramirez SS
Flowers C
L. Garcia 2B

Quintana LHP

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33. "This umpire is the lone holdout on the new, higher strikezone"
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He's giving Hughes the lower half and then some, though. Looks like our man Phil is figuring that out, but I'd prefer for him to get the call on that high fastball that tails away from lefties.

That pitch to de Aza wasn't that bad.

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34. "Settled down Hughes looks sharp"
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And this righty-heavy lineup has looked more than competent today. Outside of expecting the other shoe to drop shortly and Arcia's second consecutive day of terrible plate appearances, I'm mildly pleased.

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35. "We suck in a way more interesting way than last year so far"
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I don't think I've ever seen Mauer that visibly annoyed with a call, which almost certainly means he was right.

Are you not entertained?

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36. "Oswaldo! Twins win!"
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That was a lot of fun.

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37. "Wish I could have watched the game"
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How are we scoring so many damn runs? Is the White Sox pitching just that bad?

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38. "Mostly luck, but also yes"
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Teams don't build a sustainable offensive identity on singles and walks. Though it's better than just plain singles, so I'm hopeful that between the good at-bats shown by guys like Hicks and the fact that our best hitters (Dozier, Mauer, Arcia) really didn't do shit with the bat means we're going to have more good series than I expected.

I was also pleasantly surprised by Gardenhire's willingness to straight platoon Colabello and Kubel. Arcia and Mauer's bad games can be largely explained by facing two really good lefties for the bulk of their plate appearances, but Gardenhire mitigated this by his willingness to attack with righties when the situation called for it. I hope he keeps it up.

But the White Sox sneaky good rotation from last year looks more compromised than I expected with the departure of Hector Santiago. And that bullpen was atrocious. While acknowledging the substantial chance that the relievers could turn it around in Chicago, the group as a whole really strikes me as an example of over-reliance on the genius of Don Cooper. He's thrived by getting previously unsuccessful live arms to throw strikes and find just one workable off-speed pitch. The cutter (which the previous "fastball and then... uh...." Matt Lindstrom now features) is his go-to, and kind of made the career of Jon Danks.

But being able to do that isn't some sort of permanent recipe for lemons into lemonade. Some guys just aren't that good, even if they can throw hard. And it's possible that Lindstrom, Jones, and Miguel Cleto are the natural limit of Cooper's abilities.

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39. "Sam Fuckin' Deduno makes BPro's "best pitches""
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does this work?

https://archive.org/download/Deduno2/Deduno1.gif

As Deduno began his motion, C.B. Bucknor or some such umpire called Deduno for a balk. As youll recall from our discussion of balks last summer, it is relatively common for balks to go entirely unnoticed by nearly everybody in the park, including the announcers, and in this case the Twins announcers a) declare Eaton out, then b) confusedly wonder how they apparently lost track of the count, then c) wonder why Alexei Ramirez was allowed to steal second base in apparent slow motion, then d) conclude that they were definitely right about the count. Some number of pitches later, they finally realize that there was a balk. Which means that, after approximately 90 seconds of living in a world in which that Samuel Deduno curveball exists, we now live in a world where it didnt exist. It never happened. If you go look at Dedunos Brooks Baseball profile, the pitch is on no zone charts, it appears in no tables. It is not in his pitch count, and it does not count as a demerit on Adam Eatons contact rate.

Which is difficult to reconcile with the fact that, 87 years from now, when Adam Eaton is sitting contentedly in a senior-living facility, he will suddenly slump over in his chair. Nurses will attempt to revive him, butaside from a sudden spasm in which he bites each nurse on the handhe will not move again. When the coroner performs her autopsy, she will discover that every cell in his body had rotted and festered, like avocado slices left out overnight. How can this be? She will dig deep into his past, his medical background, his family history, his dreams and memories (by this point all dreams and memories will be automatically recorded and saved in massive databases), his PITCHf/x profiles. Because this pitch was never recorded, however, she will not discover that, on April 2, 2014, in the 11th inning of a baseball game in Chicago, Samuel Deduno threw a curveball that utterly destroyed a part of Adam Eatons soul.

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43. "lulz"
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>Which is difficult to reconcile with the fact that, 87 years
>from now, when Adam Eaton is sitting contentedly in a
>senior-living facility, he will suddenly slump over in his
>chair. Nurses will attempt to revive him, butaside from a
>sudden spasm in which he bites each nurse on the handhe will
>not move again. When the coroner performs her autopsy, she
>will discover that every cell in his body had rotted and
>festered, like avocado slices left out overnight. How can this
>be? She will dig deep into his past, his medical background,
>his family history, his dreams and memories (by this point all
>dreams and memories will be automatically recorded and saved
>in massive databases), his PITCHf/x profiles. Because this
>pitch was never recorded, however, she will not discover that,
>on April 2, 2014, in the 11th inning of a baseball game in
>Chicago, Samuel Deduno threw a curveball that utterly
>destroyed a part of Adam Eatons soul.

*claps*

  

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40. "4/4-4/6 - Twins in the Cleeeeeeeve, Probables/Pick'ems"
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This is my friends' band, so I'm literally bothering everybody I know to watch it:

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/nudity--over-u-video

Pelfrey vs. Salazar
Gibson vs. Carrasco
Nolasco vs. Masterson

Meh. Nothing but righthanders on both sides. Salazar is an ace-in-training, so that should be fun to watch if you're not... us. I'm happy to see Gibson up and in the rotation with (hopefully) not a lot of botheration. Though Alex Meyer is going today in Rochester so there's the "watch your back" warning that I'd rather apply to, say, Kevin Correia.

How about some pick'ems?!!!!!!!

Pelfrey + Gibson + Nolasco K's vs. Salazar K's
Twins wins vs. Cleveland wins
Nick Swisher walks vs. Joe Mauer doubles
Carlos Santana homeruns vs. Twins homeruns
Jason Kubel starts vs. Chris Colabello plate appearances
Eduardo Escobar plate appearances vs. Twins stolen bases

give me Twins, Twins, Mauer, Santana, Kubel, Twins

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41. "I'll check out the video when I'm not at work"
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Pelfrey + Gibson + Nolasco K's
Twins wins
Joe Mauer doubles
Carlos Santana homeruns
Jason Kubel starts
Eduardo Escobar plate appearances

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42. "Great minds... except for stolen bases"
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I'm going to bear down on the intensity of my watching.

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44. "Gibson! Offense!"
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Watching Plouffe use the other field has been encouraging. I feel like I should know better, but watching Kubel look his normal, Kubellian self against righties makes me think that this bench isn't completely terrible.

And Gibson threw strikes and got groundouts. Huzzah!

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45. "First game I actually got to watch"
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I assume this is only the start of 20 Plouffe-teen

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46. "I'd love for him to become a tradable asset"
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Instead of whatever he is now. The guy who was a definite improvement to Danny Valencia until Miguel Sano made us forget his name?

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47. "Colabello's double"
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It was unusual for him, turning on a pitch like that. He'll need to do it to survive. Since he's some of the rare right-handed thump available to the Twins right now, that would be helpful.

http://www.twinkietown.com/2013/9/5/4697312/chris-colabello-and-going-the-other-way

Chris Colabello and Going the Other Way
By Jesse  @TwinkieTown on Sep 5 2013, 9:48a 18

Your new Twins first baseman has some power. He's shown it this year by not pulling a single home run.

Chris Colabello was last week named Rookie of the Year in the International League. Suffice it to say it was a bit of a surprise that a guy in his age 29 season was considered a rookie, but it is technically true considering he'd never been to Triple-A before. But it was also a surprise, not just because of the 39 games he's now played with the Minnesota Twins but also because two years ago he was playing independent league baseball. With the Worcester Tornadoes. For the Canadian-American Association.

Of course, he won that league's MVP award that season by hitting .348/.410/.600. This season, in 89 game with the Red Wings, he managed to top even that by belting a triple slash of .352/.427/.639.

Things haven't been quite as easy with the Twins. He's struck out 45 times in 39 games and has, sometimes for games in a row, looked over-matched. Even though he's 29 that shouldn't be a surprise considering the drastic upswing in the level of competition he's experienced over the last two seasons, but it's still true. Sometimes, though...sometimes, he almost gets into a groove.

Monday's two-homer, five-RBI day is one great example. Colabello is now riding a four-game hitting streak, seeing him go 6-for-16 with six strikeouts but three walks as well.

Going back to those home runs, I know I'm not the only one to notice that Colabello hasn't pulled a single one. Which is only a little bit odd. When you put together a list of right-handed, home run-capable Twins in Target Field, you get a relatively short list: Michael Cuddyer, Danny Valencia, Josh Willingham, Trevor Plouffe. And now, perhaps, Brian Dozier as well. All of them are big pull hitters when it comes to hitting home runs.

Colabello, on the other hand, has hit one to straightaway center field and five into, more or less, the right-center field gap. On the season he's slugging .714 to center field, .880 to right field, and just .130 to left field.

Perhaps it's pitch location which is a big part of the equation, but if that's what it is then sooner rather than later pitchers will try to jam him inside. They'll see the splits and see the spray charts and the calculated results, and they'll force Colabello to show them that he can turn around on inside stuff. Which is basically the opposite of what happened to guys like Valencia and Plouffe and, to an extend, Lew Ford: the scouting report was passed around - don't pitch these guys inside - and success was fleeting when the player couldn't adjust.

Maybe it'll be this month or maybe it'll be early next season, but for a guy already climbing a steep learning curve I'm intrigued to see how he adjusts to MLB pitchers attacking him more often on the inner third. We've seen what Colabello can do when pitchers leave meatballs hanging over the middle of the plate.

There aren't many guys with the power to consistently go the other way with every single long ball launched off their bat. Can he be a serviceable piece of the future for the Twins?

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48. "Arcia or Willingham to DL, Herrmann up"
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Probably Arcia. That's a shame, but there may be a good outcome here if Herrmann comes up and plays well - that Jason Bartlett might be returned to his rightful place of "not on this roster"

http://www.twincities.com/twins/ci_25509484/twins-painful-wrist-could-land-arcia-dl

Twins: Painful wrist could land Arcia on DL
By Mike Berardino
mberardino@pioneerpress.com

CLEVELAND -- Twins right fielder Oswaldo Arcia could land on the disabled list if his painful right wrist doesn't improve enough for him to play by Wednesday, Twins manager Ron Gardenhire said Sunday.

"We're not playing short," Gardenhire said. "We're not going to do that this year."

Arcia, who was examined Saturday by hand specialist Dr. Thomas Graham of the Cleveland Clinic, said he hoped to take some swings in the cage Monday once the Twins return home to Target Field. Twins medical staff will examine his wrist as well.

If all goes well, he hopes to return to the lineup by Wednesday against Oakland. Tuesday's off day would provide him another day of rest.

For the second straight day Sunday, Arcia had an electromagnetic stimulation device taped to his wrist area. He also had a protective wrap on the wrist, which bothers him when he swings at pitches on the inner part of the plate.

The wrist isn't an issue, he said, when he can extend his arms or when he throws. He's also hoping for warmer weather as the cold seems to aggravate the injury.

Arcia is off to a 2-for-18 (.111) start with six strikeouts, but one of those hits was a game-winning triple in the ninth inning Thursday at Chicago. One at-bat earlier, despite a hitless start, Arcia was given the green light on 3-0 and fouled the ball straight back.

"I have trust in the young man," Gardenhire said after that win. "Hopefully, he will understand that. He's got to be a big part of this turnaround here. When he stays within himself and starts driving the ball to center like that, he can be anything he (wants)."

Arcia missed 12 out of 13 games late last season with an injury to a different part of the wrist.

If he lands on the DL this time, Triple-A catcher-outfielder Chris Herrmann would be a leading candidate to be recalled.

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49. "I watched the Oakland game today and am now all-in on Colabello"
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This was a career .352 hitter in a bad college conference and decided that he was good enough to play big league baseball and played 7 years in a Canadian independent league until he manages to convince somebody else that he is good enough to play big league baseball. And he actually made it. And now he's a serviceable 4th OF/back-up 1B for a mediocre team.

As a career .363 hitter in a bad college conference, Colabello is living my dream.

  

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50. "He's fascinating"
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>This was a career .352 hitter in a bad college conference and
>decided that he was good enough to play big league baseball
>and played 7 years in a Canadian independent league until he
>manages to convince somebody else that he is good enough to
>play big league baseball. And he actually made it. And now
>he's a serviceable 4th OF/back-up 1B for a mediocre team.

It was light-hearted snark, but they kinda made fun of him on BPro's hitlist for turning down about a million dollars for play for a Korean team this past winter. His logic seemed clear enough, and you described it above. He thought he was a major leaguer. I was a bit disappointed in the writer. "Dear sir, your incredibly rare dream that you worked incredibly hard and well past the point of routine effort to achieve? That's dumb"

I was really pleased at the double he hit in Cleveland the other day. His approach last year was geared entirely around poking balls out to right center, like those weird homeruns Mike Piazza used to hit. To do this, he basically nestled himself in the far southwest corner of the box, and by the end of the season when pitchers had developed a little bit of a plan against him, it almost looked like his arms literally couldn't reach strikes on the outer part of the plate.

That seems to be less of a problem for the moment.

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51. "Twins acquire Eduardo Nunez"
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I really hope this is just for depth. Florimon's bat is beyond wretched, but I still think you need a shortstop who is GOOD at something. We'll find out as the season unwinds whether his badness at everything else is a problem, but I suspect Florimon's defense comes out fine in the wash.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/04/twins-acquire-eduardo-nunez.html

Twins Acquire Eduardo Nunez
By Steve Adams
The Twins have acquired infielder Eduardo Nunez from the Yankees in exchange for left-hander Miguel Sulbaran, tweets Twins director of baseball communications Dustin Morse. Nunez has been assigned to Triple-A Rochester.

The 26-year-old Nunez is a career .267/.313/.379 hitter in 827 Major League plate appearances and batted .260/.307/.372 last season. Once considered a potential heir to Derek Jeter, Nunez has failed to distinguish himself offensively or defensively in the Major Leagues. Though he's never graded out well defensively, metrics such as Defensive Runs Saved and UZR/150 gave Nunez staggeringly bad reviews in 2013, pegging him at -28 runs and -40.7, respectively, in a small sample of 608 1/3 innings at shortstop.

Infield depth isn't the Twins' strong suit at this point, with light-hitting Pedro Florimon filling the role of everyday shortstop while prospect Danny Santana continues to develop in the minors. However, while Nunez's bat could be an improvement over Florimon, the aforementioned defensive woes don't make him a clear upgrade; Florimon is regarded as an excellent defender at shortstop. He could potentially find his way to the big league roster in the event of an injury to Florimon or utility infielder Eduardo Escobar.

The 20-year-old Sulbaran was acquired from the Dodgers last July in exchange for Drew Butera. He didn't crack Baseball America's list of Top 30 Twins prospects, nor did he appear on the MLB.com's Top 20 list of Twins prospects. Mike Berardino of the St. Paul Pioneer Press tweets that Sulbaran showed up to camp this spring overweight, which presumably didn't do much for his standing with the team. Sulbaran has a career 3.15 ERA with 8.4 K/9 and 2.4 BB/9 in 239 2/3 minor league innings.

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52. "Trevor May: me first!"
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Five innings, eight strikeouts, three hits, one run and ... zero walks last night for Rochester. So the good version of Trevor May plays in Rochester too.

I still think the things he offers are difficult enough to find that he profiles better in a rotation. He's going to have a bunch of absolute shit starts, so he may be the rare bird of a 4/5th starter who is actually capable of dominating once and awhile.

But guys who can hold mid-90s velocity late into games, get swings and misses, and will work a full innings load (150ish innings each of the last three MiLB seasons) aren't very common.

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53. "BPro's backfield notes - Walker/Polanco"
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"justin upton with a terrible approach"

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=23262

OF Adam Brett Walker (Twins): Tools for days, but still learning how to use them and whether he gets there is a question; long limbs, high butt. Stands tall in the box with a quiet stance. Can get long but not terribly so for a player with long arms. Easy plus bat speed and plus power potential; doesnt have to sell out to generate power. Generates natural backspin on ball. Over-aggressive at the plate because he can get the barrel on too many pitches, resulting in bad contact. Is willing to use the whole field but expands the zone to hit pitcher's pitches; got one pitch up in the zone and crushed it; no doubter with easy carry. He reminded me of Justin Upton with a terrible approach. Jeff Moore

SS Jorge Polanco (Twins): Busy early in his stance as pitch is being delivered but still maintains quickness to the ball thanks to natural bat speed and quick hands/reaction time. Showed line-drive/gap power and should run into a few home runs on pitches in his zone, but power is mostly for doubles. Looked to go back up the middle and hit what pitcher gave him. Looked to bunt for a hit. Has naturally smooth hands in the infield with a quick first step. His lateral range is average at best for shortstop but would play at second base. Quick release and plenty of arm for 2B but is maxed out at SS. Jeff Moore

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54. "Arcia DL'd, Glen Perkins takes up the "fuck you" responsibilities"
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Generally, I think the "you showed me up" reflex is kind of dumb, but I rather appreciate the candor of Perkins' more personally offended stance instead of the "offended on behalf of the holy game of baseball." Somebody bugs you and you tell him to go fuck himself? Good. More please. But with actual winning next time.

Arcia's wrist lands him on the DL and Darin Mastroianni takes his place. That's a fine stopgap, as far as defense is concerned. I want Arcia back and taking his MLB lumps so that learning curve can snap back around though.

From down on the farm, Niko Goodrum and Jorge Polanco (.389/.500/.667 and .348/.423/.565, respectively) are off to hot starts in the deadly-to-bats Florida State League. They're an interesting prospect pair, as Polanco profiles as an excellent defender at second whose arm is stretched at short, but whose bat (complete with hot, hot plate discipline) has made huge strides in the last year and caused to Twins to see if he can hack it at short. Goodrum is, toolswise, the best chance the organization has for a legitimate All-Star shortstop, but Polanco's continuing try-out means that Goodrum has been moved, hopefully temporarily, to third. That might be a speculative play based on Goodrum's size, which is... sizable. But I've never heard anything but good stuff about his shortstop defense so it'd be nice to see the team arrange some sort of position-sharing there. Or, alternately, for Polanco's weirdly polished bat to get him an early ticket to AA.

Anyhow, I hope they haven't given up on Goodrum at shortstop. He's absolutely loaded with talent and the (very, very early) returns in Ft. Myers have given us a clue what that could look like as they turn to skills.

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55. "i like your 'rosier' scouting reports more"
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>From down on the farm, Niko Goodrum and Jorge Polanco
>(.389/.500/.667 and .348/.423/.565, respectively) are off to
>hot starts in the deadly-to-bats Florida State League. They're
>an interesting prospect pair, as Polanco profiles as an
>excellent defender at second whose arm is stretched at short,
>but whose bat (complete with hot, hot plate discipline) has
>made huge strides in the last year and caused to Twins to see
>if he can hack it at short. Goodrum is, toolswise, the best
>chance the organization has for a legitimate All-Star
>shortstop, but Polanco's continuing try-out means that Goodrum
>has been moved, hopefully temporarily, to third. That might be
>a speculative play based on Goodrum's size, which is...
>sizable. But I've never heard anything but good stuff about
>his shortstop defense so it'd be nice to see the team arrange
>some sort of position-sharing there. Or, alternately, for
>Polanco's weirdly polished bat to get him an early ticket to
>AA.

than the lukewarm review one post prior. it's like my very own prospect bubble wrap where things still may not work out, but at least it won't hurt as much when they fail.

  

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56. "/tips cap"
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>than the lukewarm review one post prior. it's like my very own
>prospect bubble wrap where things still may not work out, but
>at least it won't hurt as much when they fail.

The one from BPro read really weird, but I appreciate anytime they have somebody put eyes on Twins' prospects (which is less frequent than you'd expect given they were the only publication to call our system best in show) regardless of the write-up.

In spite of the back-handed compliment, I thought the one on Walker was pretty okay. His last year report was "power: big YES, hit tool: ehhhh" and it seems to have graduated to "power: big YES, hit rool: maybe but he'll need to have a better plan."

That's... an upgrade?

What was annoying about Polanco's was that they didn't mention how much of a plan he seems to have considering that his bat badly held him back in the early going. If you remember the big, fat Twins summer/fall when Sano and Kepler signed, Polanco was actually the one who completed the triumvirate and actually got nearly as much bonus as Kepler. The book on him was that he had a future as a plus defender at short and that the bat would maybe work. He proceeded to spend two years not hitting much of anything, and never for power, and not really walking. And the speculation on his 16-year old arm maturing into a grown man shortstop's arm turned out to be wrong.

Then he showed up at E-town in 2012 walking more than he struck out, hitting for a strong average, and showing good gap power. And he's been the same ever since. As a switch-hitter, it's a Brian Roberts profile but without the weird Camden-drive homerun spike. But this BPro writer doesn't care about the polished approach. So, boooo. Throw that into his and you have real rosiness.

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57. "Mike Pelfrey threw 94% fastballs in his last start"
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I rounded up from 93.8, but, like, literally. It was 53.1% four seam and 40.7% sinker.

That's too many fastballs.

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58. "Draft update / return of Buxton"
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PiPress is reporting that Byron Buxton is taking flyballs and aiming for an early May return. It's good that he's working on actual baseball stuff, because it permits me to hold the opinion that I want to: the Twins are being extra-cautious about the final step of permitting him to play, unfettered, in actual games because wrist injuries are the sort of thing that tend to linger when they're not fully healed.

And oh my glob jason kubel just hit a blast off of the right field wall and got held to a single. I guess you can hit a ball too hard. If you're that slow, at least.

Here's an article about the shifts at the top of the coming June draft. Rodon is falling, raising the possibility that he'll be a question the Twins need to ask themselves. Hot high school pick of the past month or so, LHP Brady Aiken, is now sitting mid-to-high 90s with real secondary stuff and is probably passing the Twins on his way to the very top of the draft.

There was an interesting question on BPro's draft discussion recently that I think was informative in this really disproportionately pitcher-heavy draft: what is the likelihood that 8-10 years from now we look back can say for certain that the top five players were all pitchers?

The Twins need pitchers, but I guess where this is going is that it's important to respond to players (and this has been a strength of theirs, see: Buxton, Byron) rather than trends within the draft or needs in the organization. So, unless Aiken scares teams with his recent rise and HS-ness, I still like Alex Jackson's bat and possibility at catcher.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/2014-draft-update-change-at-the-top-as-pitchers-dominate/

2014 Draft Update: Change At The Top As Pitchers Dominate
April 10, 2014 by John Manuel

ts the kind of thing thats hard to quantify. Its not like scouts take attendance at high school baseball games to determine if all the scouting directors are in the bleachers.

But a perfect storm of circumstances attracted all 30 scouting directors to Baseball Americas back yard at the end of March. USA Baseballs National High School Invitational in Cary, N.C., had a half-dozen potential first-round picks in its 16-team field, with games played on a Wednesday and Thursday.

Carlos Rodon
Carlos Rodon (Photo by Brian Westerholt)
That Friday, the two top college pitchers on most teams draft boards, North Carolina States Carlos Rodon and East Carolinas Jeff Hoffman, both made home starts in the Old North State, with N.C. State adding shortstop Trea Turner to the buffet of prospects.

None of the scouts contacted for this story either in-person at the event or on the phone thereafter could remember a spring event with all 30 directors present. That doesnt mean it hasnt happened, but no one could recall it.

It all happened two months out from the June draft, making it a great time to take stock of the class. The biggest takeaway so far is that pitching and velocity stand out in what is shaping up as a fairly deep draft. Few position players, either among college or high school ranks, have broken out this spring, and most have lost some momentum and rank behind the pitchers on teams draft boards.

The guys stepping forward so far have almost all been pitchers, both high school and some on the college side, said one scouting director. Were still waiting for some hitters to do the same thing.

Added a second director, I could probably give you 20-25 names who could go in the back of the first round to second-round range. Its deep in that part (of the draft) this year.

Regime Change

Brady Aiken
Brady Aiken (Photo by Alyson Boyer Rode)
The biggest change two months in is the ascent of San Diego prep lefty Brady Aiken to the No. 1 spot, as he and Shepherd (Texas) High righty Tyler Kolek appear to have passed Rodon on most draft boards. Aiken opened the season as a likely top 10 pick and has gotten better, showing improved velocity on his 90-94 mph fastball and better hand speed on his breaking ball to go with his already elite command and knack for pitching. Kolek has hit 100 mph repeatedly and has the best pure arm in the draft.

Rodon, meanwhile, has struggled with diminished fastball velocity and command this spring. The less he throws his fastballmore consistently in the 89-92 mph range rather than the 92-96 peak he flashed in each of the last two yearsfor strikes, the more he comes to rely on his still-plus slider. An ugly start in late March at Maryland raised questions about his ability to handle adversity, as he has allowed as many unearned runs (15) as earned. While his previous track record helps keep him at the top of the college class, he has yet to show the form that put him there.

Hoffman has had livelier stuff than Rodon but gets hit as well, and both have fallen back to the college-pitcher pack, with Southeastern Conference righthanders Tyler Beede (Vanderbilt) and Aaron Nola (Louisiana State), UNLV righty Erick Fedde and lefties Brandon Finnegan (Texas Christian) and Kyle Freeland (Evansville) closing the gap. Much of the scouting world was in Nashville in March to see Beede and the Commodores play host to Nola, who has dominated more than any other collegian on the field and works off his fastball more than any other college starter, save Fedde.

Pitching remains the strength of the draft class, however, particularly on the high school side. Righthanders Touki Toussaint (Miami), Grant Holmes (Conway, S.C.) and Sean Reid-Foley (Jacksonville, Fla.) have pitched themselves toward the top of the class, as Toussaint has shown improved secondary stuff and control this spring. Holmes and Reid-Foley have run their fastballs into the upper 90s, with Holmes throwing slightly harder.

Two of the biggest movers on the prep side have been righthanders, as scouts rushed in to see Virginia prep Jacob Bukauskas, who reclassified to the class of 2014 and has been throwing in the upper 90s; and Georgia athlete Spencer Adams, who came out of basketball season throwing well, with a fastball touching 95 mph to go with a plus slider.

Jacob Bukauskas
Jacob Bukauskas
The college class also offers pitching depth, especially among lefthanders who had stepped forward to make this perhaps the best class of college southpaws since David Price led the Class of 2007. Freeland and Hartfords Sean Newcomb have maintained the momentum from their breakout performances last summer in the Cape Cod League and continue to climb up draft boards. Cal Poly ace Matt Imhof (81) and Finnegan (80), who were teammates last summer with USA Baseballs Collegiate National Team, ranked 1-2 in Division I in strikeouts.

The prep class also has shaped up strong from the left side, despite a down spring by Arizonas top prospect, two-way player Alex Verdugo (Sahuaro HS, Tucson), who prefers to hit anyway. Georgias Mac Marshall and Floridas Foster Griffin both threw well in the NHSI, while Hawaiis Kodi Medeiros has had a good spring but remains a divisive prospect due to his low release point, highly unusual for a lefthanded starting pitcher.

The Class That Cant Hit

Its a good thing that most of the top arms in the class have had strong springs, because most of the hitters have not. Prep catcher Alex Jackson has established himself as the top hitting prospect in the draft, with a strong spring to go with a long track record of production. Shortstop Nick Gordon, the son of ex-big league reliever Tom and half-brother of Dodgers infielder Dee, headlines a strong crop of talent in the Orlando area. While Gordon isnt a consensus choice, scouts report they expect him to be chosen in the first 10 selections for his combination of athleticism, ability to play a premium position and contact ability at the plate.

Michael Conforto
Michael Conforto (Photo by Bill Mitchell)
College outfielders Bradley Zimmer (San Francisco) and Michael Conforto (Oregon State) have joined Turner in the top tier of college bats. None of the three collegians has played to type, however. Zimmer, knocked last summer for a flat swing plane, has hit seven home runs during a stunning season, with a .430/.497/.711 line to go with the homers and 14 stolen bases in 19 tries. Turner has had an odd spring, with a recent hot streak pushing him to a .306/.380/.452 line with four home runs while showing improved arm strength and defensive play at shortstop. However, hes stolen just 10 bases (after swiping 87 in his first two seasons), and scouts still have real questions about his swing mechanics and impact at the plate. Conforto has just two homers this year after hitting a combined 24 in his first two seasons, but he still owned a .383/.531/.551 slash line. Wichita State switch-hitting first baseman Casey Gillaspie (.402/.507/.692, 8 HR) also was moving into first-round consideration.

The high school hitters remain more volatile, as evidenced by the NHSI matchup of Clovis (Calif.) High and shortstop Jacob Gatewood with Gainesville (Ga.) High and outfielder Michael Gettys. Two of the toolsiest members of the class combined for two singles in front of a throng of scouts, with little hard contact; one veteran scout, when asked if hed seen Gatewood hit well this season, replied, Nope, and neither has my staff. And its the same with Gettys.

Gatewood and Gettys could move back up the first round if they make more hard contact as the spring progresses, but Missouri prep outfielder Monte Harrison, a Nebraska football recruit, had opened the spring playing well and was moving past Gettys on the toolsy outfielder front. Bat-first preps such as second baseman Forrest Wall out of Orlando and third baseman Michael Chavis (Marietta, Ga.) were taking advantage of the vacuum and earning first-round consideration.

The class can be summed up more by who hasnt hit, another scouting director said, than by who has hit.

As usual, the first round has some injury wild cards, such as Sanger (Calif.) High righthander Luis Ortiz, who had missed a couple of starts with a hush-hush injury but was expected back in mid-April; and Virginia outfielder Derek Fisher, who was out with a hamate injury in his right hand. Other injured prospects who have volatile draft stock include Georgia prep righty Dylan Cease, Texas prep righty Michael Kopech and Florida prep Cobi Johnson.

Rank Player Pos School, City
1. Brady Aiken lhp Cathedral Catholic HS, San Diego
2. Tyler Kolek rhp Shepherd (Texas) HS
3. Carlos Rodon lhp N.C. State
4. Alex Jackson c/of Rancho Bernardo HS, Escondido
5. Jeff Hoffman rhp East Carolina
6. Tyler Beede rhp Vanderbilt
7. Aaron Nola rhp Louisiana State
8. Nick Gordon ss Olympia HS Orlando
9. Kyle Freeland lhp Evansville
10. Bradley Zimmer of San Francisco
11. Trea Turner ss N.C. State
12. Brandon Finnegan lhp TCU
13. Touki Toussaint rhp Coral Springs Christian HS, Miami
14. Erick Fedde rhp UNLV
15. Grant Holmes rhp Conway (S.C.) HS
16. Jacob Gatewood ss Clovis (Calif.) HS
17. Michael Conforto of Oregon State
18. Kyle Schwarber c Indiana
19. Sean Newcomb lhp Hartford
20. Monte Harrison of Lees Summit West (Mo.) HS
21. Sean Reid-Foley rhp Sandalwood HS, Jacksonville, Fla.
22. Braxton Davidson 1b/of Roberson HS, Asheville, N.C.
23. Michael Chavis 3b/2b Sprayberry HS, Marietta, Ga.
24. Forrest Wall 2b Orangewood Christian HS, Winter Park, Fla.
25. Max Pentecost c Kennesaw State
26. Spencer Adams rhp White County HS, Cleveland
27. Michael Gettys of Gainesville (Ga.) HS
28. Nick Burdi rhp Louisville
29. Kodi Medeiros lhp Waiakea HS Hilo, Hawaii
30. Casey Gillespie 1b Wichita State
31. Jacob Bukauskas rhp Stone Bridge HS Ashburn, Va.
32. Mike Papi of/1b Virginia
33. Mac Marshall lhp Parkview HS, Lilburn, Ga.
34. Luke Weaver rhp Florida State
35. Matt Imhof lhp Cal Poly
36. Milton Ramos ss American Heritage HS, Hialeah Gardens, Fla.
37. Marcus Wilson of Junipero Serra HS, Los Angeles
38. Derek Hill of Elk Grove (Calif.) HS
39. Derek Fisher of Virginia
40. Luis Ortiz rhp Sanger (Calif.) HS
41. Alex Verdugo lhp/of Sahuaro HS, Tucson, Ariz.
42. Michael Kopech rhp Mount Pleasant (Texas) HS
43. Scott Blewitt rhp Baker HS, Baldwinsville, N.Y.
44. Foster Griffin lhp The First Academy, Orlando
45. J.J. Schwarz c Palm Beach (Fla.) Gardens HS
46. Taylor Sparks 3b UC Irvine
47. Cam Varga rhp Cincinnati Hills Academy, Ohio
48. Joseph Gatto rhp St. Augustine Prep, Hammonton, N.J.
49. Chris Oliver rhp Arkansas
50. Jake Stinnett rhp Maryland
Compiled by Aaron Fitt, Clint Longenecker and John Manuel

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59. "BA: Buxton DL'd into May"
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I don't think there's any new *bad* information here, since the May timeline was already discussed. But it's nice that he's swinging.

Less nice is that the Rock Cats will probably swing through Bowie without him. So... blah. I 'll miss him. And that's not an interesting Twins affiliate without him.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/twins-byron-buxton-stay-on-disabled-list-to-extend-into-may/

Buxtons Stay On Disabled List To Extend Into May
April 13, 2014 by J.J. Cooper

Twins center field prospect Byron Buxton has a bat in his hands again, but hes still several weeks away from returning to action.

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The No. 1 prospect in the game sprained his wrist diving for a ball in the outfield in mid-March during spring training. Hes been on the high Class A Fort Myers disabled list since the minor league season began. According to Twins farm director Brad Steil, Buxton has begun doing some light swinging with a bat, but hes still a couple of weeks away.

The Twins hope that Buxton will be able to play in an extended spring game by the end of April, but they caution that that is a preliminary plan that may be adjusted depending on how his wrist feels in the next couple of weeks.

Though the injury should have little or no impact on Buxtons long-term future, it does make it tougher for him to repeat as the Baseball America Minor League Player of the Year. No player has won back-to-back POY awards since Andruw Jones did it in 1995-96. Buxton was considered one of the favorites for this years award, but he will miss at least 20 percent of the season with the wrist injury.

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60. "Probables/Pick'em vs. Blue Jays 4/15-4/17"
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Hughes vs. Morrow
Pelfrey vs. Dickey
Gibson vs. McGowan

Pelfrey's successfully kicked my "Mike Pelfrey is better than you think" argument in the balls with his inability to find the plate. You can work the induce-contact angle knowing you're punting on the possibility of minimizing base hits. But that means you can't walk people. Like, ever. That's the give.

Pick'ems?

Twins wins vs. Jays wins
Dickey wild pitches + passed ball vs. Deduno WP + PB
Mauer extra base hits vs. Brian Dozier homers
Twins offensive double plays vs. Twins defensive double plays
Morrow strikeouts vs. Twins starters' strikeouts
Hicks stolen bases vs. Florimon hits

Give me:
Twins, Deduno, Dozier, defense, starters, Hicks

Finally, remember Alex Wimmers? Two elbow surgeries and a horrific case of Steve Blass disease later and he's back. He threw 6 innings of one hit ball for the Miracle last night, striking out six. He's been always been really good when he wasn't either hurt or throwing the ball to the backstop. Apparently, he's there in Ft. Myers until he can prove his health and could be up to New Britain relatively soon. It'd be interesting to see if there's still something there. Out of the Brad Radke Clone Army draftees, he's the one that I thought actually resembled Radke more than the other clones - with real off-speed offerings instead of just "pitches that aren't a fastball."

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61. "Fun with small samples: Pedro Florimon's weird fucking season"
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I briefly considered burying this in adjectives, but it's better to just come right out and state that, obviously, Pedro Florimon can't fucking hit. He's impossibly terrible at it, to the tune of .067/.176/.067. That's two hits in 35 plate appearances, both singles. Improbably, he's walked five times - which is actually pretty decent considering that absolutely nobody wants to walk an out that easy.

Makes me wonder if he'd get a nice, short-term performance jolt if he decided to just never swing.

The cool thing is that if we decided to be totally, totally irresponsible about using UZR over an 11 game sample, he's the best shortstop in baseball by a not-small amount that completely cancels out his impressive futility with the bat.

So, if you wanted to know how good a defender you needed to be to break even (defined as replacement level) when you're basically a total offensive liability, the answer is "exactly as good as Pedro Florimon."

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62. "Mackey: Would Byron Buxton currently be one of the best Twins?"
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No. He wouldn't. This is dumb. But I like it when people talk about Byron Buxton.

I think 2014's version of Aaron Hicks is probably a reasonable scenario for the 20 year old Byron Buxton. So, maybe "good enough to start"

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Would_Byron_Buxton_currently_be_one_of_the_Twins_best_players041614

Would Byron Buxton currently be one of the Twins' best players?
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Here's a crazy hypothetical:

What if Byron Buxton would be the Minnesota Twins' second-best position player right now?

Yes, he is currently sidelined at Double-A New Britain with a sore wrist, and yes, he has yet to make his major league debut. I know.

But according to two popular baseball projection systems - ZiPS and Oliver - Buxton, if healthy, would be among the Twins' best position players in 2014, despite the fact that he has yet to play a game above High-A.

ZiPS, which can be found on Fangraphs.com and was developed by ESPN's Dan Szymborski, projects Buxton - again, hypothetically - to hit .254/.321/.369 with nine home runs, 30 stolen bases and a 2.7 WAR (Wins Above Replacement) in 121 games this season. In the major leagues.

Oliver, which can also be found on Fangraphs.com and was developed by Brian Cartwright, projects Buxton to hit .254/.318/.411 with 14 home runs, 30 stolen bases and a 3.7 WAR in 143 games.

The Twins' position player leaders in WAR last year were Joe Mauer (5.2), Brian Dozier (2.8) and Pedro Florimon (1.3) - the latter due mostly to his defense at shortstop.

For reference (and to prove these systems don't provide overinflated projections), ZiPS projects Mauer to hit .292/.378/.414 with 10 home runs in 134 games this season, which would obviously be a sub-par season. Oliver projects Mauer to hit .300/.382/.444 with 13 homers.

Considering Buxton is a career .312/.404/.502 hitter in the minors to this point, it probably isn't much of a stretch to suggest the same thing these projection systems are - that Buxton could hold his own offensively and steal bases while playing elite defense at a difficult position, center field.

How many Twins position players legitimately hold their own offensively, steal a ton of bases, and/or play elite defense at a difficult position? (Hint: Not many...)

Of course, he's currently injured. And the Twins don't have much incentive to start his service time clock anytime soon. It's possible Buxton could still debut later this year, but a 2015 arrival seems more likely.

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63. "Kyle Gibson: Fluke or Duke?"
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That's a gem of a game he pitched in the cold.

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64. "31 degrees, coldest ever if I read right?"
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Everything AA did last season is blowing up in his face, such is the nature of baseball

but...congrats to Gibson, Plouffe, Pinto, and the Twins fans on a great day

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Jays pitching has given up six runs on one hit. Sergio Santos threw two wild pitches that led to runs scoring. Eight walks. Three pitchers.

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66. "el. oh. el. "
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67. "He's not *this* good, but this is what good Kyle Gibson looks like"
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Groundballs are there already. Hitting against him in the cold seems like absolutely no fun at all. Dick and Bert actually talked a little bit about the PitchFx study last year that showed Gibson losing out on pitches in the zone being called balls in greater proportion than any other pitcher. BPro talked a lot last season about Twins' catchers and pitch-framing. Doumit was legendarily bad at it. Mauer was pretty far above average at the top of the zone, but below average in the bottom of the zone. This is likely due to his size, but it's regrettable incongruent with the Twins' pitching style.

Suzuki doesn't have a great reputation for pitch-framing either. And Gibson missed out on a couple of calls that could have made his special outing seem even more impressive. I think the strikeouts will come in greater totals soon enough, but he'll also have to start paring down that walk rate too.

What I like so far is that there's not really a "thing that's gotta give" except his homerun rate. And that only in the sense that he's going to allow one once and awhile instead of never. He's got a chance to be a strong #3 in the abstract sense, which will look a lot more impressive than it sounds to any of us who watched the 2013 rotation pitch.

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68. "your ray of optimism: if the season ended today, we're in the playoffs. "
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69. "Does Joe Mauer suck now?"
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The big fat red flag is his strikeout rate. But what's that composed of?

He's swinging less at balls outside the zone than last year, but still higher than his extremely low career average. Still, not much change.

He's swinging less at balls inside the zone than last year, and all told, he's just plain swinging less. Down about 2% from his career average. Interesting, but it's probably driving his current high walk rate more than his strikeout rate - though there's likely to be an impact there as well.

His contact percentage with pitches outside the zone has more or less nosedived. That's... a problem, but it's less so for a player like Mauer who rarely swings at pitches outside the zone anyhow. Mark it, but not as the ONE BIG THING that has driven the strikeouts.

His contact within the zone is basically identical to his extremely high career marks. That's probably good if you're hoping for a bounceback, because swing and missing at pitches in the zone is a sign of ability to get the barrel on the ball declining.

So, all told on swings, we're seeing less contact - mostly driven by way less contact on pitches outside the zone. But still a high percentage of contact that means Mauer's new strikeout rate isn't solely a product of flat swings and misses.

All told, this looks like he's having some problems with balls called for strikes that he thinks are balls. On an eyeball basis, I'd say that I've noticed that too. A lot more pitches down and in that he's not biting on that are being called strikes combined with a continuation of 2013's trend where he'll expand the strikezone up when he's behind in the count. There's nobody I'd trust to figure out and solve this problem more than Joe Mauer, but if there's actually something changed physically (which the above numbers don't necessarily indicate) then we may not see that happen. The only thing left is the batted ball data, which explains his lack of power (fewer flyballs and more groundballs) but not his lack of Mauer-ian singles and doubles because his linedrive rate is typically excellent.

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70. "Sam Fuld... in... the ... fold?"
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This is like the Eduardo Nunez pickup, except it's more likely to help the team in the short run and more likely to damage the team in the long run.

Fuld is basically Darin Mastroianni except he's a worse baserunner (still pretty good) and better at drawing walks. The key difference is that he hits left-handed which... wait for it... sets him up for a platoon with Hicks. If Hicks were a known, stable entity, I'd say "platoon away!"

But he isn't and this isn't a good team no matter how you divide up the centerfield playing time. So let's go with the guy whose skill set has "All Star" upside in it until he proves that he's not going to reach that. Because it's, best case scenario, the difference between a 75 win team and a 78 win team if Fuld remains better.

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72. "semi-related spinoff"
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i find it interesting that the twins FO panders to a guy whose "heart isn't in it anymore" (bartlett) and tells our most dangerous RBI man so far to go play in korea (calobello). doesn't really help my already low opinion of the FO, ya know?

  

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73. "Yeah, it's hardly the bold moving-forward I'd hoped for"
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The Bartlett thing was absurd. Of course a guy who is barely clinging to life in affiliated baseball is fine holding a glove and standing in leftfield to qualify as a "utility man" but that doesn't make him actually versatile.

Colabello is tougher, sort of. A good team trying to ship somebody they understood as a AAAA hitter in exchange for cash is reasonable. One that has lost 95+ games for three years running needs to take an honest crack on the chance he can hit MLB pitching 85% as well as AAA pitching.

They're... really lucky he made that decision for them.

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71. "BUXTON!... back?"
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Clap, clap, clapclapclap that he's back in time for New Britain to come down to Bowie.

http://blogs.twincities.com/twins/2014/04/22/twinsights-byron-buxton-could-return-to-games-this-week/

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Twinsights: Byron Buxton could return to games this week
22 April, 2014 // Uncategorized // Tags :

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. Twins minor-league outfielder Byron Buxton, out since March 16 with a sprained left wrist, could see action in his first extended spring training game by Thursday.

Buxton, the top-ranked prospect in the minors, hit in the cages at Fort Myers, Fla., on Tuesday. The plan is for him to take batting practice on the field and go through a full pregame routine Wednesday.

If all goes well, he would progress to extended spring games. As for when Buxton might ship out for Double-A New Britain or possibly play for Class A Fort Myers, that remains unclear.

There is no timeline for that, Twins assistant general manager Rob Antony said. Well just see how he feels.

Even though Buxton has been out for more than five weeks, the Twins medical staff expected this due to the slow-healing area of the injury.

There hasnt been anything unexpected, Antony said. Everything has gone according to plan.

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74. "Fun Alex Meyer line"
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6.2 innings, 3 hits, 3 walks, 11 K, 0 R

Tonight for the Red Wings.

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75. "Will Middlebrooks for Twins GM"
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Apparently he sat 96ish and dinged 99 at least once. Deolis Guerra is the guy to talk to about changeups. He's basically stuck around as a relief prospect on the strength of his.

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140423&content_id=73159192&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb&sid=milb

Righty Meyer strikes out 11 for Rochester
Top Minnesota pitching prospect dominates Pawtucket in no-decision
By Jake Seiner / MiLB.com04/23/2014 11:42 PM ET

Up until last week, it had been a rough season for Alex Meyer's circle changeup.

"The first one I threw this year, Juan Francisco deposited it over the fence," the Twins' top pitching prospect said. "I didn't throw another one the rest of the game."

About a week ago, Meyer was fed up with the offspeed pitch. Then a little piece of advice from two teammates got the 24-year-old back on track.

"Deolis Guerra and Yohan Pino, those two guys pulled me aside and told me, 'Don't throw the circle change,'" Meyer said. "I'm way more confident with the new grip they showed me, going with more of a three-finger change."

Meyer said he threw about 15 three-finger changes for Rochester on Wednesday. The pitch helped him set up his knockout breaking ball, which he used for many of his 11 strikeouts in a 3-1 loss to Pawtucket in International League action.

The strikeouts tied a career high for Meyer, who scattered three hits over 6 2/3 scoreless innings. He walked three and didn't factor into the decision for the fourth time in four Triple-A starts.

Minnesota's No. 3 prospect racked up all but one of his strikeouts in five or fewer pitches, and eight with four or fewer. He said he worked his fastball and changeup off each other early in counts, spotting up the heater then collecting foul balls and a few swings-and-misses with the change. Once he got ahead of hitters, he struck out many of them with his breaking ball.

Among his victims was Red Sox third baseman Will Middlebrooks, who fanned three times against Meyer in a rehab appearance.

"I asked a coach, 'Who'd he make mad? Why is he here? Are there five guys better than him in Minnesota," Middlebrooks told Brian MacPherson of the Providence Journal.

"That's awesome," Meyer said about Middlebrooks' quote. "It was neat when he came into the box and I had two outs and it was me vs. him. To be able to get him, that puts a lot of confidence in you."

Meyer said the outing was important for his self-confidence after a rocky start in Triple-A. The University of Kentucky product entered the year with just 70 innings of Double-A experience under his belt and stumbled to a 5.14 ERA in his first three outings with the Red Wings.

The 6-foot-9 hurler said recovering control of his changeup helped fix many of the things that plagued him in previous outings. Before the game, Rochester catcher Dan Rohlfing told Meyer he was going to make him throw more changeups. Meyer said Rohlfing's insistence and assurance helped immensely.

"It was something I had been working on, and he made me feel confident in it," Meyer said of the pitch. "I was getting pretty good sink on it. It was moving a little bit. It was coming out of my hand well. I can throw it at full arm speed. I don't have to slow things down. It had a little run and sink to it, and it was easier for me to command than the circle change was."

Meyer allowed just one base runner in the first four innings -- a leadoff single by Ryan Lavarnway in the second. He got two outs in the seventh before allowing a single to Brandon Snyder and was pulled having thrown 100 pitches (63 strikes).

Rochester led when Meyer exited the game, 1-0, but Boston's No. 5 prospect Garin Cecchini put Pawtucket ahead with a two-run double in the eighth.

No. 3 Red Sox prospect Allen Webster countered Meyer with 6 1/3 one-run innings, allowing five hits and a walk while striking out five. Webster (1-1) has a 3.08 ERA through five starts.

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76. "Fangraphs: Twins new plan - don't swing"
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Takeaway: the Twins are swinging at fewer pitches than any team in baseball and, according to Cameron "it may be by design." Mauer is his usual self, the guy who has been literally the most careful player in baseball with swings pretty much since he's been in the league. But right now, two guys (Dozier and Ploufffe) are actually *more* patient than Mauer. And swinging under 40% of the time as a team? Not common.

This will likely change somewhat, but Cameron also notes that, "And while were dealing with a sample of just under a month of the season, things like team level swing percentage arent subject to the same fluctuations that we see at the player level, or with other metrics that have more variables in the calculation." Looking team-wide, this month is big enough to constitute something interesting rather than a blip.

Cameron then discusses some of the reasons why this might be a fluke, and largely dismisses them. Think the Twins are facing lousy pitchers who can't throw strikes? Apparently incorrect, as the Twins have faced the 8th most strike-throwin'est pitchers in baseball. And he points out that they wouldn't deviate from that plan against the Twins, because there's not much punishing power in here.

He concludes with the obvious caution that this is a long season and there's really no track record of success beyond Mauer to suggest that this group has turned a corner collectively. But the good things about such an oddly severe strategy is that they're likely to continue it while it's working and that our cursory look over this lineup ("those guys can't fucking hit") in March basically holds up: this is the only likely version of a successful Twins offense - one that walks a ton.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-twins-new-plan-dont-swing/

The Twins New Plan: Dont Swing
by Dave Cameron - April 25, 2014

Dont look now, but the Minnesota Twins lead the major leagues in runs scored per game. The Minnesota Twins with a line-up featuring the likes of Chris Colabello, Pedro Florimon, Kurt Suzuki, Aaron Hicks, Josmil Pinto, and Trevor Plouffe are scoring 5.52 runs per game in a month where Joe Mauer has been kind of terrible. On the list of amazing things to happen this April, this has to rank near the very top. And the way theyre scoring runs is perhaps just as surprising.

When you think of organizations that have committed to a patient approach at the plate, you probably think of the Red Sox, Yankees, As, and Indians; clubs with long track records of emphasizing on-base percentage and working counts. You probably dont think of the Twins; over the last three years, Minnesotas hitters rank just 24th in OBP and are tied for 16th in walk rate. Even with a franchise player like Joe Mauer, taking pitches and getting on base hasnt really been a point of emphasis for the Twins, and Mauer found himself surrounded by the likes of Ben Revere, Ryan Doumit, Alexi Casilla, and Danny Valencia.

Those four are all gone now, however, and the new Twins dont look much like the old Twins. Their 12.9% walk rate leads the majors, and their .354 OBP ranks second only to the Colorado Rockies. The Twins are basically walking their way into wins, and it looks like it might very well be be design.


Here are the nine hitters for Minnesota who have constituted something close to regular status for the team this year, and their corresponding swing rates from 2013 and 2014 listed next to that.


Player 2013 2014 Difference
Brian Dozier 40% 36% -4%
Joe Mauer 38% 38% 0%
Trevor Plouffe 43% 37% -7%
Chris Colabello 46% 47% 1%
Jason Kubel 46% 40% -6%
Josmil Pinto 42% 38% -4%
Kurt Suzuki 42% 35% -8%
Aaron Hicks 40% 36% -4%
Pedro Florimon 44% 43% -1%
Seven of the nine Twins starters are swinging less often this year than they did a year ago, while Mauer has continued his dont-swing-unless-I-have-to approach that hes had for years. Colabello is the only hitter who has swung more often this year than he did last year, and even his increase is negligible. And the result is that the Twins are swinging at far fewer pitches than any other team in baseball.

On the year, theyve offered at just 39.8% of the pitches theyve been thrown, two percentage points below the next lowest team and five percentage points below than the league average. And while were dealing with a sample of just under a month of the season, things like team level swing percentage arent subject to the same fluctuations that we see at the player level, or with other metrics that have more variables in the calculation. For reference, the lowest swing percentage any team posted in any month last year was 41.9%. A team posting a swing rate under 40% over an entire month is not a common occurrence, even with random variation.

Now, you might say that maybe this is just a reflection of the Twins facing some lousy pitching over the first few weeks, and the low swing rate is just a reflection of the fact that theyve seen a lot of pitches out of the strike zone. The numbers refute that hypothesis, however; the Twins hitters have faced the eighth highest Zone% in MLB this year. Because they lack power, pitchers arent afraid to throw strikes to this lineup, and yet theyve still managed to swing at the fewest pitches and post the highest walk rate in baseball.

Because were dealing with just 21 games worth of data, this could end up being just a fluke, and perhaps the Twins will return to their hacking ways of previous years. I dont think anyone expects guys like Colabello and Kubel to keep hitting, after all, and Kurt Suzuki has a long track record of not being able to hit, so expecting him to have figured something out at age-30 is unrealistic. The Twins offense is performing way over its head, and is basically guaranteed to regress over the next five months.

But there are some signs that this might be the fruit of an organizational shift in offensive approach. As a few of the guys told Fox Sports North last week:

You look at our lineup and weve got guys in the lineup with a little more time under our belts now. They know what it takes, Dozier said. Youve got to draw your walks. Its a long year. Any way to get on base in certain situations, guys are doing that now. But at the same time, were not going to lose our aggressiveness. Were still out there trying to hack away.

Me and (Kubel) were joking in the dugout, we were like, Man, weve been doing it all wrong for a while. Weve been trying to hit the ball to score runs. We dont need to do that, said Chris Colabello, who drew the seventh of eight walks in the bizarre eighth inning. It was awesome, just the combination of guys having good grinder at-bats and not trying to do too much. Its really easy in those situations to get too amped up and get out of the zone. But obviously, awesome approach by everybody. It was just a great team inning.

There is some evidence to suggest that Major League hitters do swing too often, especially in two-strike counts, and their overall production could be improved if they stopped chasing as many marginal pitches to avoid being called out taking strike three. Since the Twins dont have many legitimately good hitters, they may very well be able to maximize their offensive potential by swinging less than anyone else, and forcing the opposing pitcher to challenge them.

The swing/take decision is a constant game of chess between the pitcher and hitter, and if the Twins continue to just take pitches at the rate theyre taking them now, teams will adjust and throw them more strikes. But until they do, the Twins plan seems to be working out pretty well, and a line-up that looks like it should be terrible is performing better than any other. This wont last, but if the Twins keep up their early season approach, perhaps they wont be quite the doormat they looked like headed into the season.

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77. "Who's for real?"
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My picks

Suzuki: no, but I could see the singles sticking around
Mauer: no, doubles should come
Dozier: Yes but we'll see a similar size/different shape as walks/power decline and average improves
Florimon: Ugh, yes
Plouffe: No, but I don't think he'll crater - he's just not an All-Star
Kubel: No, he'll settle into a platoon player
Hicks: No, singles will come
Colabello: Average no, power yes
Pinto: No, see Dozier

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78. "Alex Meyer's right arm: fuck you. pay me."
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Six innings. Two hits. Three walks. Eleven strikeouts. Zero runs.

For those keeping track, his last two starts have had twenty-two strikeouts in 12.2 innings. He's permitted eleven guys on base in that time, and zero runs.

Time for a 40-man add, I'd hope.

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79. "Berardino: Josmil Pinto working at it"
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This is a fun article, but sometimes the reason an article is written is more important than what it says. Mike Berardino sat down to write this because Pinto's hard work is buzzy on the Twins beat right now, and it's buzzy because the Twins' brass wants it to be. Which ... given the way that some rookies have gotten torn down a little in the past is a good thing.

http://www.twincities.com/twins/ci_25654953/twins-rookie-slugger-josmil-pinto-leading-team-curiosity

Twins rookie slugger Josmil Pinto leading team in curiosity
By Mike Berardino
mberardino@pioneerpress.com
POSTED: 04/28/2014 12:01:00 AM CDT | UPDATED: ABOUT 9 HOURS AGO

A couple of throws sailed on Josmil Pinto during a recent road trip, including one his manager said he never should have attempted.

So the first thing the Twins' rookie catcher did upon returning to Target Field over the weekend was to march onto the field with catching instructor Terry Steinbach and work on his footwork and throwing.

Teammates noticed.

"Pinto is one of the hardest-working kids you're going to see," reliever Jared Burton said. "He's in the video room studying hitters. He's not afraid to ask questions. That's the biggest thing you (want) in a young player. He did that as soon as he got here last September."

At 25, the powerfully built Venezuelan isn't about to let a hot start at the plate diminish his thirst for information.

Among big-league rookies, only Chicago White Sox first baseman Jose Abreu has better overall numbers than Pinto. Yet, while Abreu was signed as a Cuban defector for $68 million over six years this winter, Pinto is still working for the big-league minimum of $500,000.

In that regard, he has been one of the game's best bargains.

With 17 walks entering Tuesday and the start of a three-game interleague series against the Los Angeles Dodgers, Pinto already has broken Tim Teufel's 30-year-old franchise mark for most April walks by a rookie. Pinto still has a shot to catch Butch Wynegar's Twins rookie record for any month: 20 in July 1976.

"His walks and his strikeouts (15) aren't far apart," manager Ron Gardenhire said. "He's got a big swing but it's compact. He can drive the ball, uses the whole field. He's not just a pull, pull, pull guy. I'm just glad we're getting him in the lineup."

In order to do that, the Twins have used Pinto at designated hitter 11 times already while Kurt Suzuki handles primary catching duties. While even veteran players often struggle with the mental challenge the DH role presents, Pinto has done some of his best work while sitting for long periods between at-bats.

Among those with 35 or more plate appearances at DH, only Baltimore's Nelson Cruz (1.174) has a higher combined on-base/slugging percentage than Pinto's .990. His .447 on-base percentage in the DH role also ranks second.

How does Pinto keep from growing antsy on those nights when he's the DH?

"During the game, I just stretch and take a few swings in the cage," he said. "Not too much, though, just regular. Just enough to stay warm."

Some veterans have tried riding an exercise bike in the clubhouse in an effort to simulate the effort on defense, but Pinto hasn't done that yet.

"Just stretch and stretch and stretch and then get ready for your at-bat," he said. "Plus, all those games when I play DH, I can watch the hitters for the other team.

Oakland’s Nick Punto, left, is tagged out after colliding with Twins catcher Josmil Pinto in the sixth inning of an April 10 game at Target Field.
Oakland's Nick Punto, left, is tagged out after colliding with Twins catcher Josmil Pinto in the sixth inning of an April 10 game at Target Field. (AP Photo/Andy Clayton-King)
I try to learn the most that I can so I can see every inning the other hitters and see what pitch they can hit and what pitch they can't."
That's a vital part of the Pinto Principle: He never stops trying to absorb all he possibly can.

"I always concentrate on the game," he said. "I always watch all the game now."

His mind is constantly working, to the point where he will sidle up to Suzuki and Steinbach with defense-oriented questions during games when he serves as DH. Generally, they will gladly share their knowledge, but there are times when even Steinbach has to caution Pinto against trying to stay too involved during defensive innings.

"I respect him as a DH, too," Steinbach said. "Kind of been there, so I'm not going to sit here and mandate that we're going to focus 100 percent on catching. He's got to go knock in some runs."

That part has been remarkably easy for Pinto since he was first promoted to the majors last Aug. 31, the day Justin Morneau was dealt to Pittsburgh. In 40 big-league games spanning 162 plate appearances, Pinto has hit .292 with a .401 OBP and slugged .533.

Most of his nine home runs in that span have been no-doubters, and his 158 career OPS Plus -- adjusted for park and league effect -- puts him 58 percent above the league norm.

"I want to make sure when he's DH-ing, his No. 1 job is to hit," Steinbach said. "If there's stuff we can point out in the process, we will, but in no way do I want to compromise what he needs to do to get ready to hit. Whether it's getting some swings in the cage or a couple sprints or whatever, I make sure he does that first."

At that point, the unfailingly pleasant Pinto will nod and leave the dugout and retreat to the tunnel or the indoor batting cage. Twins veterans appreciate those moments, as well.

"He's only going to get better," Burton said. "When he gets better behind that plate, we all know what he can do with that bat; we've seen a little taste of that. He's an elite-type player, and he's got a high ceiling and he's definitely going to work hard to get there."

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80. "Jim Callis draft updates"
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He's basically re-ordered his top-of-the-draft stuff. This one is shaping up to be an interesting one, where once again the Twins are one pick out of the agreed-upon "top tier" players. However, unlike 2013, there's been more movement in that top tier than you'd expect and it's more likely somebody there will either fall to the Twins or that somebody new will raise their profile between now and mid-June.

A prep arm that I liked, Brady Aiken, has risen so fast he's basically skipped over where I could possibly hope the Twins could grab him. He was known coming into this year for having impressive polish for a high schooler and some command of three pitches with an above average fastball. Then he started throwing 97mph without sacrificing any of the other stuff. And he's left-handed. So he's presently the consensus 1-1.

Carlos Rodon had been the "obvious" 1-1 favorite for the past two years, but started the season rough with decreased velocity and command. But even with that knock, he profiled as a middle-of-the-rotation MLBer who could just as easily regain the 'ace' upside he showed in college. It seemed possible he could fall to #5 until recently, but he looked like his old self, striking out 15 GT Yellow Jackets last Friday so that ship has probably sailed, again.

Twins are apparently in love (via the guy who covers them for MLB.com) with Texas Prep righty Tyler Kolek, who Callis ranks as #3:

"Tyler KolekRank: 3Shepherd HS (Texas), SeniorHeight: 6'5", Weight: 230Position: RHPDOB: 12/15/1995Bats: R, Throws: RTwitter: @tylerkolek58Commitment: TCUScouting Grades: Fastball: 80 | Slider: 65 | Curveball: 60 | Changeup: 45 | Control: 45 | Overall: 65

The latest in a long line of Texas high school fireballers, Kolek missed much of his junior season at Shepherd High after he broke his left arm in an infield collision while playing first base. He made a dramatic return to the mound in June, hitting 99 mph with his fastball at an Area Code Games tryout and peaking at 97 at the Perfect Game National Showcase. He pitched at 93-96 mph for most of the summer and hit 99 again at the Perfect Game All-America Classic in August.

Kolek has pushed his fastball to 100 mph and above several times this spring, even out of the stretch. He throws both a 12-to-6 curveball and a sharp slider, and though the slider is newer to him, it has more upside. He rarely uses a changeup, but it has the potential to become an average offering.

The only real knock on Kolek is that his control and command have yet to catch up to his premium stuff. That still hasn't prevented him from becoming a contender to go No. 1 overall to the nearby Astros. His younger brother Stephen, a right-hander who can run his fastball into the low 90s, could be an early-round pick in 2015."

So, basically Kohl Stewart with more fastball but less developed secondary pitches (though they still show promise). Works for me, but the other shoe is that the Twins really don't expect him to be there at #5.

Haven't heard a lot about the Twins and #4 Jeff Hoffman, and he's reportedly battling an injury right now. So, wait and see.

Sooooooo, then we get to guys who are expected to be around for the Twins. My favorite is Alex Jackson, who has been steady as the best position prospect in a draft that is quickly becoming known for pitching upside and depth. Regrettably, no rumors yet as to what the Twins think of him - particularly since his value could hinge on whether he stays at catcher or not. Here's Callis:

"Alex JacksonRank: 5Rancho Bernardo HS (Calif.), SeniorHeight: 6'2", Weight: 215Position: C/OFDOB: 12/25/1995Bats: R, Throws: RTwitter: @AlexJaxxsun10Commitment: OregonScouting Grades: Hit: 60 | Power: 60 | Run: 45 | Arm: 55 | Field: 45 | Overall: 60

Rancho Bernardo High in San Diego has produced four first-round picks in the last two decades: Jaime Jones (1995), Matt Wheatland (2000), Scott Heard (2000) and Cole Hamels (2002). Jackson, Rancho Bernardo's latest star, might get picked earlier than any of them because he's an offensively gifted catcher with plus arm strength to boot.

His standout tool is his right-handed power, which he generates with bat speed and strength. He has enough feel for hitting that he could produce .280 batting averages in the Major Leagues. To do that, he'll need to curb a tendency for his swing that gets long at times which causes him to miss hittable fastballs.

Jackson's arm gives him a third future plus tool. He moves better than most catchers, though his receiving will need to improve if he's to stick behind the plate. If not, he has enough athleticism and bat to make it as a right fielder. He has committed to Oregon."

Call it Anything points out that not a lot of guys drafted highly as high school catchers have actually stuck there, though in the few cases where the reason wasn't (necessarily) their ability behind the plate but rather the fact that the defense would delay a promotion that their bats warranted (Wil Myers and Bryce Harper), I think we could live with that kind of outcome. Harper never caught as a pro, for instance.

Beyond those guys, it's pitchers who lack the "ace" upside as Rodon, Koley, and Aiken but are pretty interesting.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2014/#list=draft

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81. "4/30-5/1 Twins vs. Dodgers, probables, pick'ems"
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I don't know how you guys feel about the interleague-heavy new schedule, though I suppose your reaction will continue to depend on how it helps/hurts the Twins, as mine does. But it's worth it so I have a good reason to listen to Vin Scully on MLBtv.

Probables:
Gibson vs. Greinke
Pelfrey vs. TBA
Kris "26th man" Johnson vs. TBA

That wasn't helpful. I'd like to see them hurt Greinke's precious feeling, but that desirable game one outcome still wouldn't erase the fact that the Dodgers could pencil in almost any breathing human for that first TBA start and have him be better than Mike Pelfrey this year or that Kris Johnson wasn't even in the running for the Twins rotation to start the year.

How about some pick'ems?

Twins wins vs. Postponed games

Times I spell Kris Johnson's name wrong vs. Mauer homeruns

Yasiel Puig anecdotes told with general disapproval by Dick/Bert vs. Who gives a shit I'm listening to Vin Scully

Twins offensive walks vs. Twins outfield strikeouts

Kyle Gibson innings vs. Dodgers TBA #1 strikeouts

Give me: Twins, Mauer (because I'm a good speller), Scully, walks, Dodgers TBA

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82. "I don't think they're playing a game in this series"
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Every game might get rained out.

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83. "That's disappointing"
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I've enjoyed the last couple Gibson starts. And also, baseball.

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84. "So that's the last time Plouffe is greenlit on 3-0, right?"
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Swings at ball four, pop-up to shortstop with bases loaded.

I don't hate the idea. Just every circumstance surrounding it.

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85. "Trevor May, latest 11K member of Rochester rotation"
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Brutal tough-luck loss for May tonight. Six innings, three hits, two runs, one walk, eleven strikeouts.

Something is going to have to happen with our rotation soon. Because the offense is actually scoring and the team isn't, at least, getting left behind. The 2014 Twins aren't a good baseball team, but they might be a team worth watching regularly if they don't leave two of the best five starting pitchers in the organization in AAA.

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86. "Well, that sucked... draft talk?"
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It's May now, so it's time for actual "this team is interested in this player" rumors. And the rumors for the Twins have mentioned Alex Jackson, who I've posted about a lot, and now Nick Gordon. So here's something on Gordon. The short story: very polished left-handed high school bat, MLB bloodlines with brother Dee Gordon and father Tom Gordon, above average hit and average power, should stick and defend well at short, good speed.

http://www.thegoodphight.com/2014/3/11/5496478/phillies-2014-draft-preview-nick-gordon-ss

Phillies 2014 Draft Preview - Nick Gordon, SS
By Cormican  @cormican72 on Mar 11 2014, 3:00p 13

Of course, I have no idea what the answer to that question is, so I'll get that out of the way up front. It is important however, to remember that the MLB draft is nothing like the NFL or NBA drafts. The Texans have the #1 pick in the Draft and they could use a new QB, if their scouts believe that Clowney is the next Reggie White and Manziel is the next Cade McNown, the brass may still take Manzeil because they need a QB. That's simply not the case in MLB, all of the guys in this draft are 2 years from the bigs (except the aforementioned Aaron Nola who could start from day 1 like Mike Leake). For this reason I have always been a proponent of drafting the best available. This team could use Pitchers in the system and this draft is deep in potential top of the rotation arms, still, if the best guy left has huge risk and you like a position player better, I say take the route that's more likely to produce value. Gamble in the second round and later.

Now, with that out of the way, let's talk Nick Gordon. Gordon is 6'1" and weighs about 165lbs. He's very lean, but scouts seem to think he'll fill out his frame more. Gordon, as mentioned above, is a High School Shortstop. In my writeup on JP Crawford last year I noted how insanely rare it is for High School SS drafted in the first round to make the Majors and still be Shortstops. The few who do make it often make it as Third Basemen, Center Fielders or Second Basemen. Many more, simply never develop the hitting skills to make the Majors. All reports are that Gordon has the glove, arm and range to stay at Short in the Pros. Similarly, reports are that scouts expect him to fill out more and hit for some power (the Double and Triple variety as opposed to much of the over the fence type). Still, you're drafting a High Schooler who's still growing, will his range stay as he fills out? What about his hitting, will he hit enough to make the Majors or is he closer to Tim Beckham without enough bat to stick? It's worth noting that I'm going to do my best to avoid making comps to his older Brother, as that seems unfair, but his Older Brother has already made the Majors, Dee Gordon. Nick has more present tools that Dee ever showed, so beyond DNA, there isn't much comp to be made anyway.

So, first we can talk about Nick Gordon's arm. It's really good and would play anywhere on a diamond, including the mound. Nick currently pitches for his HS team and features a mid-90's Fastball and pretty good breaking stuff. He's a better prospect as a hitter, but it's important to get the full picture and his arm is very, very good. Below is some video of him Pitching, if you're curious, but he won't pitch an inning in pro-ball unless a game goes long enough to run out of normal Pitchers.


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Go 56 seconds into the video below from baseballfactory and you get to see Gordon fielding during Defensive drills (we'll tackle the swing stuff in the first minute after the video). The first thing I notice is that Gordon looks very, very comfortable and doesn't fight the ball. Even on tough backhand grabs to his right side he seems to have a very natural feel and good range. Clean exchange from his glove and strong throws (you can't see first in the video, so his accuracy could be all over the place, but that doesn't show up in reports, so I'll trust the throws are good). Videos of in game defense are harder to come by, so we'll have to go with this minute and scouting reports to ascertain that he can stick at Short.


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Now, to the bat. I hate high leg kicks. I can live with them for guys like Bautista and Ortiz who use them to generate power, but for most guys I think they do more to throw off timing. Gordon has a leg kick just south of the Rockettes. It works for him in HS ball, but in the pros I'd like to see it get quieter, maybe a little less pronounced. That's an adjustment that can be made if he has issues against pro Pitchers. Beyond the leg kick I really like his swing. His bat speed is good, his swing looks like it stays in the zone for a while and he has good bat control with a bit of a whip in his wrists. Of note, this video is from the 2013 UA All America games last Summer.

To be fair, Matt over at Minor LEague Ball may have projected the Phillies to take Gordon because he's the 7th best player in the Draft on his board or because the Phillies have a reputation for taking very "Toolsy" guys (and Nick Gordon has plenty of tools, I didn't even get around to his above average speed). I have doubts the Phillies go back to back High School Shortstops, but it's hard to see many bad picks in this draft at the 7 spot. Would anyone really complain if the Phillies got a future everyday Shortstop out of this draft and last year's pick became the every day Second Baseman (or vice versa)?

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87. "5/5-5/8 in the Cleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve, Probables, pick'em"
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People call it that, right?

Gibson vs. McAllister
Deduno vs. Tomlin
Nolasco vs. Salazar
Correia vs. Masterson

I got nothing here. It is the debut of Sam Fuckin' Deduno in the rotation after Mike Pelfrey went on the "disabled" list due to a "strain" of his "groin" muscle. I don't recall as cynical a use of the DL by the Twins themselves in awhile, but whatever. He sucks right now so I doubt he's complaining.

Pick'em!!!
Twins wins vs. Cleveland wins
Gibson innings vs. Nolasco strikeouts
Mauer games vs. Plouffe homeruns
Twins walks vs. Twins hits
Byron Buxton extra base hits vs. Twins homeruns

Give me Twins, Gibson, Plouffe, hits, Buxton

Oh, and Buxton is back. 0-4 with 2Ks last night for the Miracle because... baseball is hard.

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89. "no escobar playing outfield vs escobar flyball muffs?"
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you're slipping, sir.

  

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90. "In my defense, there were enough outfielders on the active roster..."
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... when the series started.

But point taken. That was brutal.

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88. "Another year, another "Twins strike below-slot draft deal" rumor"
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Last year turned out to be incorrect with... one of the catchers. The guy who went to Pittsburgh, I think. Now it's Nick Gordon.

http://sbb.scout.com/2/1400460.html

This part was the most interesting:
"There are already rumors that my #5 player, Nick Gordon, will cut a below slot deal with the Twins at pick #5 with his father, former big league reliever Tom Gordon, acting as Nick's advisor. Every player/advisor in this range knows they could slip to the bottom if they lose a few coin flips in split war rooms, so they are incentivized to market themselves as signable because if they slip 5-10 picks, even an over-slot deal at a lower pick would likely be for less money."

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91. "It's... a... ROUNDUP: Hicks, Buxton, Berrios, Cast of Thousands"
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1. Twins scold Aaron Hicks over missing homework. This story is boring and I don't like the idea that it must have been desperate for Gardenhire/Antony to go to the media. It's not ever that desperate. This isn't information that we need to have. All that said, if it works I'll probably shut up.

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Wetmore_Twins_tell_Aaron_Hicks_he_needs_to_be_better_prepared_to_play051514?t=2

2. Byron Buxton re-injured his wrist. Apparently it was on a foot-first slide, so that's kind of one of those things where you have to just throw up your hands and say "well, shit." Except for Byron Buxton. He should keep his hands exactly where they are until a doctor tells him otherwise.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24558662/top-prospect-byron-buxton-re-injures-wrist

3. BPro had a scout's-eye-view on Jose Berrios and it's FREE. The takeaway is that he's really good. "Berrios is the fullalbeit smallpackage. He has the electric arm and natural velocity that can't be taught and two potential plus off-speed pitches (the changeup is already plus). He's not the biggest player, but his frame will be able to hold up to the rigors of starting pitching. His fastball command needs to improve but it's not too far off, and when it does, the changeup will play up even further. Despite his stature, he held his velocity well into his start. If the fastball command doesn't improve, he'll make for a strong high-leverage reliever, but the body and the arsenal are capable of being a starter."

Read the full thing at the link. A starter with potential for three plus pitches sounds pretty okay right now.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=23579#pitreport105

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94. "was going to ask about this hicksian drama ... "
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>1. Twins scold Aaron Hicks over missing homework. This story
>is boring and I don't like the idea that it must have been
>desperate for Gardenhire/Antony to go to the media. It's not
>ever that desperate. This isn't information that we need to
>have. All that said, if it works I'll probably shut up.

nice for him to get the walkoff yesterday. maybe a springboard? who knows ... if i remember correctly, the rap on him throughout his MiLB career was his patience bordered on timidity. do you think that is hurting him even more at the MLB level? or is it really just a lack of preparation? he certainly doesn't seem prepped for post-game interviews. sheesh.

  

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95. "RE: was going to ask about this hicksian drama ... "
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>nice for him to get the walkoff yesterday. maybe a
>springboard?

At the very least, it'll keep the brass off his back for a couple days. I hope.

>who knows ... if i remember correctly, the rap on
>him throughout his MiLB career was his patience bordered on
>timidity. do you think that is hurting him even more at the
>MLB level? or is it really just a lack of preparation? he
>certainly doesn't seem prepped for post-game interviews.
>sheesh.

That was indeed the knock against Hicks. I can't really be certain if that's hurting him, though the "going to the stadium without knowing the starting pitcher" thing can't possibly be a good thing unless you're some sort of hitting savant like Vlad Guerrero.

I remember Keith Law writing something interesting about him during an AFL game, that he'd rarely seen a player with that much strikezone judgement but that little pitch recognition. He didn't really explain how such a thing could exist, but it makes sense with the "too passive" knock. Hicks is in a good position to know which pitches to swing and which to not, but he really doesn't place himself in a good position to hit the pitches that should be swung on.

Perhaps against my better judgement, I keep looking for good in his current season. As somebody whose baseball interest skyrocketed in the saber-era, it's really hard for me to see a 17% walk rate and think "he sucks" even though he's been profoundly unproductive otherwise. Shit, in the new-MLB where everybody seems to have decided to hit the ball on the screws or not hit it at all, a 27% strikeout rate doesn't even really knock me over.

But all this means that the preparation argument has a little bit of traction. Drawing walks at that rate, particularly when you've shown no ability to hit for power at the MLB level, is a skill to build off of - but part of the reason he hasn't is that he doesn't seem equipped to find the 4-5 pitches a game he can really hit hard (and those pitches exist - nobody's pitching around Aaron Hicks) and a good reason for that might be that he hasn't done the requisite homework of "how does this pitcher get people out?" and "how do people who have success against this pitcher do it?"

It would make sense that this would be more of a problem at the MLB level. The successful AA jump showed that he could handle advanced breaking pitches, but in the minor leagues pitchers are still mostly responding to their own needs - "throw your curveball for strikes" and "get ahead in the count" - rather than the strictly competitive need of "get Aaron Hicks out." In short, he's facing guys who have a plan for him, no matter how poorly he's hitting, and even at his best he's probably not good enough to not have a plan of his own.

I missed the post-game interview. Was it dull-Mauer bad? Or deer-in-headlights Jacque Jones bad?

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96. "the latter "
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>I missed the post-game interview. Was it dull-Mauer bad? Or
>deer-in-headlights Jacque Jones bad?

he seemed to circle back to the same cliche three times in a very short span of time. it was ... tough. you would expect a certain level of comfort from a top prospect. oh well.

interesting note from law about hicks. i don't recall seeing that opinion before this morning, but given the sample we have at the MLB level and hicks' athletic pedigree, it doesn't really surprise me.

  

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92. "because big papi ... RELEVANT!"
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http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/weekend-update-david-ortiz/2772827

nailed it.

  

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93. ""Don't!""
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It's going to be difficult to remind myself not to pronounce the word "gay" as "yay" going forward.

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97. "Smoke/fire: Three more mocks have Twins on Gordon in june draft"
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Law, Kiley McDaniel, and BA all have the Twins on Tom Gordon's son, Nick. He projects to stay at shortstop and defend the position well, with a quick bat and good baserunning. Being the son and brother of big leaguers mean he's unusually polished for a HS pick and that he's probably not looking for a big overslot deal so much as a place he's comfortable starting his pro career as quickly and effectively as possible.

I like the idea that the best player available could also be a real, live shortstop who can contribute at the top of the order, things we really need. But BA's mock is interesting for one of the nigh-lock-for-top-three pitchers falling to seven: Tyler Kolek. He's a giant right handed prep pitcher from Texas who sits in the high-90s and dings 100mph with impressive regularity. That sounds... pretty nice too. But beyond just a bunch of rumors naming Minnesota's interest in Gordon, there have even been one or two of a pre-draft deal. So there's that.

Here's five minutes of Nick Gordon playing baseball: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZntjlE0Aho

Here's BA:

TWINS: The Twins have done their due diligence on the top prep arms, and their emphasis on finding velocity in recent drafts could lead them to Kolek. But theyve also done a lot of work on Gordon, whose middle-of-the-diamond athleticism is too much to turn down.
Projected Pick: SS Nick Gordon

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98. "Going off-script in the draft: Touki Toussaint"
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All we get to pad out the scouting snippets is clips that make us go "ooohhhh." I haven't seen any of those with Gordon, but I'm not a scout so I also didn't see that with Buxton or Stewart. The only big and loud things I'm attentive enough to be impressed by are velocity (Meyer) and power (Sano). So what the hell do I know?

But Toussaint's curveball in this video?

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/touki-toussaint-impresses-with-personality-arm?ymd=20140519&content_id=76006672&vkey=news_mlb

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99. "Everybody to the limit! Phil Hughes is to the limit!"
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I recognized the curveball/slider thing. Didn't recognize the cutter thing. Nolasco is slowly straightening out, but there's a future rotation in here if Meyer can reach his ceiling of a 1/2, Hughes, Gibson, and Nolasco all profile as reasonable #3's, and Trevor May is that goofy kind of #5 where he ranges from dominant (which he was last night in AAA) to awful.

Speaking of last night, Berrios killed it with maybe his best start as a pro. Spotting fastball at 93-94 at the knees, struck out 10 in seven innings, and gave up two runs on five hits and three walks. His biggest problem last year was trailing off during the long intro to full-season ball. That'll be a concern given his size, but his reputation on drafting was as a baseball rat who is never unprepared. So if his body is capable of holding up over 150+ innings, he'll get there. But he also didn't have a whole lot of nights like last night when he was in Cedar Rapids in 2013. So this is good.

Anyhow, back to Hughes. Read the article about how he's doing what he's doing. And because I got nothing else, I nominate "Fhqwhgads" as Hughes' nickname.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/phil-hughes-to-the-max/

Phil Hughes to the Max
by Jeff Sullivan - May 19, 2014

Fact: Phil Hughes has always been a tinkerer. All players are constantly making adjustments, so in that sense all players are tinkerers, but Hughes has been a tinkerer to the extreme. Hes gone back and forth on what pitches hes wanted to throw, and Ben Lindbergh identified several different versions of Hughes, the pitcher. Adjustments are interesting to investigate, so Hughes hasnt been dull, although this leads us to the next fact.

Fact: Phil Hughes has seldom been good enough. The former top prospect has a career 12.2 WAR, and for the most part hes been missing consistency. Because of the inconsistency, theres been the tinkering, and perhaps because of the tinkering, theres been additional inconsistency. Theres always been the question of Hughes potential. Theres never been a question of whether or not Hughes was a disappointment. Because of his reputation, people were surprised when the Twins handed Hughes a guaranteed three-year contract.


And yet, here we are, and Hughes is pitching differently. Hes both pitching differently, performance-wise, and hes pitching differently, process-wise. Hughes has done some more tinkering, and now he looks like the good starter on the staff. Hes walked just six in eight starts, and though its one thing for a Twins starter to throw strikes, Hughes has also struck out 40. Hes doing a good job, and not just because hes left Yankee Stadium behind. Hes doing a good job because hes folded in a variety of changes, turning the tinkering up to 11.

Hes still a fly-ball guy. Hell forever be a fly-ball guy. Hes still just a decent strikeout guy, and he still allows a lot of fouls. But we can look at the changes, and the first, most obvious place to look is the pitch mix.

And this is simple. Hughes used to throw a cutter. Then he didnt, then he did, then he didnt, then he did, then he didnt, and so on. Hughes has had a complicated relationship with both his cutter and his slider, but after using the slider last year, Hughes has gone back to the cutter in 2014 instead, and hes thrown it more often than ever. The curve is now his only breaking ball, and it accounts for just one pitch out of nine. On top of that, Hughes has all but eliminated his changeup, so hes mostly a fastball/cutter guy, against righties and lefties. Hes willing to throw the cutter in any count, particularly with two strikes, and he uses it away against righties, and on both sides against lefties. For Hughes, its not a new pitch, but its a new way of using an old pitch, as his repertoire has evolved.

It would also seem Hughes has tweaked his arm slot. Previously Hughes expressed some concern that hitters could read his curveball right out of his hand. The pitch would be released a little higher, and it would soar above the usual plane. This year, Hughes is up with all of his pitches, and though the difference isnt dramatic, Hughes has been throwing that much more overhand. It gives his pitches a slightly different angle, and as long as were talking about changes, we can note this one even if we cant speak to the significance.

Here is, though, I think the biggest change. His whole career, Hughes hasnt been afraid of attacking the strike zone. Sometimes thats gotten him in trouble, but hes been a strike-thrower, and now hes only kicked that up. Last season, Hughes threw about 53% of his pitches in the strike zone. That more or less matched his career mark. Here are the top five biggest Zone% gainers, 2013-2014:

Phil Hughes, +6.8 percentage points
Wily Peralta, +5.5
Zach McAllister, +5.5
Clay Buchholz, +5.3
Jeff Samardzija, +4.7
Hughes zone rate now stands at 60%. It is the highest zone rate in baseball. He also has one of the highest first-pitch strike rates in baseball, and he has an extremely high overall strike rate. Hughes, before, was content to come into the zone. Now its like he cant bear the thought of pitching too far out of it. Pitch after pitch after pitch, Hughes is challenging, and when youre constantly challenging, you end up walking basically nobody.

This season, 36% of Hughes pitches have been thrown with two strikes. Its the highest rate in baseball, and the highest rate of Hughes career. What he isnt, necessarily, is better at putting hitters away. Its forever been one of the criticisms that Hughes lacks a true putaway pitch, which explains why his two-strike counts lead to so many foul balls. But while Hughes isnt the most equipped to take advantage of two-strike counts, a two-strike count is still better than a non-two-strike count, for any pitcher, and so it works to Hughes advantage to spend more and more time ahead. Even should he continue to give up two-strike hits, hes better at 0-and-2 than 1-and-1, and constantly being ahead will inevitably yield strikeouts just because hitters strike out sometimes.

Hughes has been all over the zone against righties. Hes been all over the zone, to a slightly lesser extent, against lefties. Hes replaced sliders out of the zone with cutters in it or close to it, and while some of the flaws in his game remain, the idea was never for Phil Hughes to be perfect. His strikeouts arent up, and his groundballs arent up, but his walks are down, and fewer baserunners means less damage when things go awry. If Hughes was ever a nibbler, he seems to be done nibbling.

You wonder if this in any way has to do with the catchers. In New York, Hughes mightve been able to get some more calls around the edges. In Minnesota, the receiving talent isnt there, so fewer borderline pitches will go in Hughes favor. Fewer borderline pitches have gone in Hughes favor, but his strikes are up anyhow because hes just coming right after the hitters. This could have a lot more to do with the new environment. Hughes might just be more comfortable being aggressive when he doesnt have that porch close behind him.

This is a case where a pitcher seems better. But instead of the pitcher changing one thing, Hughes has changed a number of things, so its impossible to calculate partial credits. Hes throwing a different mix of pitches, from a different angle, to different spots, with new catchers in a new ballpark. Based on his tendencies, Hughes is probably still going to get burned by his fair share of extra-base hits, even in two-strike counts. Thats a consequence of his pitching style, and his not having a true strikeout weapon. But think about what you actually have to do to be worth $24 million over three years. The bar isnt set very high. Hughes today has almost seven strikeouts per walk. Phil Hughes is on the offensive, and this could be going an awful lot worse.

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100. "Twins in BPro's Monday Ten Pack"
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Kohl Stewart's recent strikeout numbers have been nice to see. He'd handled the jump to full-season ball well, and has been really tough to hit. But only lately has he started to collect strikeouts in bunches that we also hope to see.

I'm a bit disappointed that Goodrum's moved off shortstop for good, but it sounds like with an offensive-minded utility profile that's for the best.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=23608

Kohl Stewart, RHP, Twins (Low-A Cedar Rapids)
The 2013 first rounder (fourth overall) has warmed with the temperature in the Midwest League, having now run off four impressive starts spanning 20 and two-thirds innings pitched since April 25th. Over that period, Stewart has punched out just under a batter an inning while maintaining a sub-1.0 WHIP and allowing just two earned runs. The stuff is sharpening, with the power righty better working both sides of the plate with his low- to mid-90s fastball and a hard slide piece serving as a weapon, particularly against same-side bats. Stewart remains prone to control and command hiccups, especially with his secondaries, but overall its been a positive start to his first full season of professional ball. Looking ahead to the remainder of 2014, the main areas of focus will be consistent execution of his secondaries, improved comfort with his changeup, and a more dynamic use of his full arsenal, as he can get formulaic with his sequencing. Nick J. Faleris

Niko Goodrum, OF, Twins (High-A Fort Myers)
Goodrum, now a third baseman, has the athletic ability to play anywhere in the infield, a good skill given his profile as a potentially valuable utility man. He played primarily shortstop last year, but has shifted to third in deference to Jorge Polanco, a move based as much on the organizational depth chart as Goodrum's inability to stay at the position. He's still learning the nuances of third base, but he has all of the tools to be a plus defender there, including a natural, fluid backhand and natural movements on the barehand charge play. His arm is a true weapon and will allow him to play anywhere on the field. He will likely outgrow shortstop once he fills out, but in the meantime, his height shouldn't preclude him from being an acceptable option there.

At the plate, the switch-hitting Goodrum still has some work to do. He's currently a better pure hitter from the right side, but he has the potential to do more damage from the left. From the right side, he keeps his hands inside the ball better and features above-average bat speed. From the left side, he has a tendency to get a little longer, but he has more power potential and generates backspin on the ball. He'll never be a big home run hitter, but he could hit a fair number of doubles. He runs well and is an above-average basestealer.

Goodrum might never have enough power to be anything but an empty hitter for moderate average, but that, paired with his ability to switch-hit and play all three infield positions, makes him a realistic and potentially valuable bench player. Even if the bat develops, he'll never hit for typical third base power, but his defense could help make up the difference to make him an borderline everyday option. Jeff Moore

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101. "We going to forest/trees this team?"
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My moderate delight at being in second place and above .500 is tempered, respectively, by the sheer number of teams above or around .500 in the AL (10) and the fact that the Central is pretty terrible so being in second place is like being one of those French lords who is technically aristocracy by blood but who can't afford to pay for their castle. The Twins weirdly effective offense has come back to earth, as Colabello and Kubel have cratered, Mauer has rebounded then slumped again, and Plouffe has returned to the Plouffe we all know and grudgingly accept until Miguel Sano is ready to be great.

The pitching is still the worst in the AL, but we're on the mild upswing and have now tied Chicago in ERA+, which is worth something, particularly as they are a direct competitor for archduke of the midwestern AL shitheap. So maybe these two trends will pass each other in the middle and this actually is a 75-80 win team. Though I'd say the pitching has less to go before it hits its ceiling than the offense does before it hits its floor. Still, that's where the slow transition to prospect-hood matters.

Oswaldo Arcia is hitting .294/.375/.735 since being officially optioned back to Rochester. Baseball is hard and they don't always click the first time, but his breadth of offensive skills will help us in ways that Jason Kubel v.2014 can't. There are two actual prospects at Rochester who should be ready to replace members of the rotation soon. Trevor May (2.93 FIP and 9.84 K/9) is learning to limit his walks without sacrificing strikeouts. Alex Meyer (3.65 FIP and 10.93 K/9) has turned in more dominant outings than not and should get a call as soon as that dominance stabilizes into some sort of consistency.

So, unlike the disaster squads of 2011-2013, there is real minorleague help available *now* that projects to be part of the next great Twins team. I can't get excited about this current roster, not as a formal unit. But it's sort of nice to be better than expected with the (hopefully) imminent arrival of parts of the prospect wave.

Speaking of, Eddie Rosario will return from his suspension this week. It'll be interesting to see how that goes. He's probably been passed on the organizational 2B depth chart by Jorge Polanco and Brian Dozier's comeup makes it easier to wait on Rosario anyhow. So maybe those winter rumors that he'll return to the outfield are true. On the other hand, outside of Levi Michael (remember him? he's at .322/.379/.432 in Ft. Myers and though he's not somebody to bank on any longer, probably doesn't deserve to have his starting job taken by Rosario) there isn't much going on at second in Ft. Myers, where Rosario will apparently get some seasoning before returning to New Britain.

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102. "Sickels: Prospect of the day, Alex Meyer"
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Still good news on the changeup. Sounds like command/control is always going to be something to keep an eye on with his size. I can live with the occasional day where it eludes him in exchange for ace-y stuff all the other days.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2014/5/20/5653102/prospect-of-the-day-alex-meyer-rhp-minnesota-twins

Prospect of the Day: Alex Meyer, RHP, Minnesota Twins
By John Sickels on May 20 2014, 12:25p 4

The best pitching prospect in the Minnesota Twins system is right-hander Alex Meyer, currently pitching for Triple-A Rochester in the International League. With the big league club at .500 but in need of starting pitching, we'll likely see him later this summer. Let's take a look at Meyer as Tuesday's Prospect of the Day.

Meyer was drafted by the Boston Red Sox in the 20th round in 2008 out of high school in Greensburg, Indiana. He turned down $2,000,000 and went to the University of Kentucky. He was mediocre as a freshman (5.73 ERA, 80/45 K/BB in 60 innings), struggled badly as a sophomore (7.06 ERA, 63/36 K/BB in 51 innings), but turned things around as a junior (2.94 ERA, 110/46 K/BB in 101 innings) in time to solidify his place in the 2011 draft. The Nationals selected him in the first round, 21st overall, giving him a $2,000,000 bonus.

Meyer posted a 3.10 ERA with a 107/34 K/BB in 90 innings for Low-A Hagerstown in 2012, followed by a 2.31 ERA with a 32/11 K/BB in 39 innings after being promoted to High-A Potomac. Traded to the Twins for Denard Span that fall, he posted a 3.21 ERA in 13 starts last year for Double-A New Britain, with an 84/29 K/BB in 70 innings with just 60 hits allowed. He missed much of the season with a sore shoulder but was healthy in the fall and has been healthy this year, posting a 3.79 ERA with a 49/21 K/BB in 40 innings for Rochester, with 31 hits allowed.

Cutting an intimidating 6-9, 220 on the mound, Meyer was born January 3, 1990. His huge size made it tough for him to keep his mechanics consistent in college, resulting in serious command problems and erratic performances. However, he's made significant improvements over the last three years. He still has trouble occasionally, but this is a far cry from the guy who was regularly beaten up as a freshman and sophomore.

Stuff has never been questioned: he can hit 100 MPH and works regularly in the mid-90s. He has a knucklecurve that rates as a plus pitch, and has developed a solid changeup to go with the power pitches. When his command is on he is nigh unhittable: examples include a pair of 11-strikeout games in late April, although he's had a couple of more difficult outings since then when his command slipped.

Meyer has the stuff to be a number one starter, but enough doubt remains about his command for us to project him more as a number two or strong three. The Twins usually promote their prospects slowly and Meyer hasn't consistently dominated at Rochester to the extent that would force their hand ahead of schedule. That said, we will most likely see him later this year, and he certainly has the natural ability to find immediate success once that happens.

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103. "Meet Baseball's New Most Underrated Player: Brian Dozier"
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The gist: Brian Dozier is good at all of the baseballs.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/meet-baseball-s-new-most-underrated-player-052114

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Brian Dozier's become a new man at the plate and an under-the-radar star.

For years, there's been a pretty easy answer to the common question of "Who is the most underrated player in baseball?" It's Tampa Bay's Ben Zobrist. It was Zobrist last year, and the year before that, and the year before that. It's probably been Zobrist since his breakout year in 2008. If you want to win a bar bet and you happen to be at a bar where the patrons know what Wins Above Replacement is the "Ben Zobrist has a higher WAR than Robinson Cano over the last six years" factoid is a pretty good place to start.

But Zobrist is still human, and humans don't age particularly well when it comes to athletic competitions. Next week, Zobrist will celebrate his 33rd birthday. His power is already starting to wane, as just 10 of his 40 hits this season have gone for extra bases, continuing a trend towards weaker contact that began last year. He's also slowing down and is not the dynamic baserunner he was a few years back. While he remains an excellent defender and a player who can still control the strike zone, he's becoming more of a good player than a great one. After years of being underrated, Zobrist is finally regressing into the player that people have thought he was.
And so now, it is probably time for him to pass the torch, and to anoint a new Most Underrated Player in Major League Baseball. Interestingly, the prime candidate looks an awful lot like the incumbent.

Meet Brian Dozier. The Minnesota second baseman is not a young, exciting prospect. He doesn't have a great career track record. Two years ago, he hit .232/.286/.337. In Triple-A. At the age of 25. He wasn't any better when the Twins called him up to the majors simply because they needed a warm body to play the infield. He was essentially the definition of a replacement-level player, the kind of guy that bad teams gave at-bats because their good prospects weren't ready yet, or because they didn't have any good prospects to begin with.

But then, last year, things began to change. Dozier won the Twins second-base job, again somewhat by default, but he didn't look like the Brian Dozier of old. After never hitting more than nine home runs in any minor-league season, he launched 18 homers against major-league pitching. He stopped getting himself out, reducing his rate of swings on pitches outside the strike zone from 33 percent in 2012 to 23 percent in 2013. Dozier transformed himself from a no-power hack into a guy who could work counts in order to get a fastball he could drive, and then he actually put a charge into the ball when pitchers challenged him over the plate.

The positive growth has only increased this year. Dozier already has 11 home runs and is slugging .479, but even more notable is the massive spike in walk rate; he's drawn a base on balls in 14.2 percent of his plate appearances this year, nearly double his 2013 mark, which was already nearly double his 2012 walk rate. For the first two months of 2014, Dozier's overall line looks eerily similar to what Zobrist was doing in his prime. Here's Dozier's current season, compared with what Zobrist did over his five-year peak, ranging from 2008 through 2012.

Player BB% K% ISO wRC+
Dozier 14.8% 18.7% 0.222 140
Zobrist 13.5% 17.0% 0.195 129

Draw walks, strike out at a roughly league-average rate, hit for power, play good defense at second base, and add a bunch of value by running the bases well. This was Zobrist's formula, and now it is Dozier's.

Of course, it's easy to cherry pick any player who is off to a hot start to the season and make them stack up favorably to a guy who did it for five years. But Dozier isn't just some two-month flash in the pan.

Date back his performance one calendar year, rolling the last four months of last season and the first two months of this season into a total line, here's how he did from May 21, 2013 through May 20 of this season: 158 games, 696 plate appearances, 35 doubles, two triples, 28 home runs, 80 walks, 130 strikeouts and 23 stolen bases.

The total line adds up to a 122 wRC+, and that's just hitting; when factoring in baserunning and defense, Dozier has been a plus-5 WAR player over the last calendar year. The only American League second baseman with a higher WAR during that timeframe? Zobrist, of course.

Maybe Dozier hasn't put up All-Star numbers from Opening Day through Game 162 of the same season, but a full year worth of performance data suggests that Dozier isn't the same guy he appeared to be a few years back. He's made a leap, not unlike the one Zobrist made at a similar point in his career. Dozier is excelling in the exact same way that allowed Zobrist to become baseball's under-the-radar superstar.
Baseball loves to exalt starting pitchers and power hitting first baseman, focusing heavily on guys who are great at one particular aspect of baseball. Throw 98 miles per hour or hit a ball 450 feet and the highlights will find you. But diversify your value and simply be above average at everything, and you're not as likely to draw the same kind of attention. Defense and baserunning aren't sexy, and despite the "Moneyball" revolution, people still prefer guys to hit their way on base rather than ones who force the pitcher to walk them. Like Zobrist, Dozier doesn't do the kinds of things that will earn him regular accolades. He just does the things that help teams win baseball games.

By all rights, the Twins have no business being in second place in the AL Central. That they have more wins than losses in late-May is amazing, especially considering that Joe Mauer hasn't hit at all and Josh Willingham has spent most of the year on the disabled list. This offense should be dreadful, but instead, they're seventh in MLB in runs scored per game.

This is what having a guy like Dozier will do for you. Quietly, he's become not only the Twins' best player, but one of the best players in baseball. Zobrist can turn over his crown; his successor has been found.

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104. "Zobrist, huh?"
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Quite a compliment. You think he can keep it up through September, though?

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105. "That'd make him a 6-7 win player"
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And an MVP candidate among the angry-contrarian-nerd crowd like me.

That seems like a push. But they say that walk and strikeout rates stabilize pretty quickly, so if Dozier is really a guy who can walk 12+ % of the time and keep his batting average around .250... maybe?

I don't think he's getting great credit from UZR for his defense yet either.

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106. "Aaron Hicks doesn't "turn around to hit left-handed" results thread"
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First day results, 2-4 with two strikeouts. I didn't really expect him to immediately import his plate discipline to this new experiment, which is complicated since that's presently his only real asset as a hitter. But a pair of singles from the right side was nice.

Now he just needs to find the comfort that will let him work counts.

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107. "Danny Santana with a walk off tip"
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But I'll take it.

Got out to Target Field yesterday for the first time in a couple of years. I really shouldn't take how damn amazing this place is for granted.

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108. "Twins baseball!"
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That was weird, weird fun.

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109. "KLaw Chat: It's Nola or Gordon for Twins"
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to the commentariat,

which do we want:

Aaron Nola, RHP, LSU:

Via Twinkietown:

Fastball: Mid-90s
Curve: Mid-70s
Change: Low-80s

The two-seam fastball is a unanimous plus pitch. The curve and the change are both considered potentially plus offerings, due in no small part to the angles that Nola can achieve, although which pitch is better is going to depend on when each scout saw the LSU ace pitch. Each of these offerings are commanded impeccably, which - according to many reports - is quite possibly Nola's best asset as a pitcher. On the 20-80 scale, most have him rated at a 65 to a 70. Keith Law disagrees, however, projecting Nola's future command as an above-average 55. He also believes it's the curve that has the potential to be Nola's second-best pitch, while the change could be nothing more than average.

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTOQvV4PQGE

Or Nick Gordon, SS, Fla HS:

Via Twinkietown:

Hitting (40/55)
Power (40/50)
Speed (65/65)
Arm (70/70)
Fielding (55/65)

The hitting tools project to be average or a bit better than average. Scouting reports repeatedly say that Gordon will continue to develop in both areas, as high school players will do, and that because his frame is so different from his brother's (simply by matter of comparison) that he'll be able to develop solid gap power as he gets older. His hands are quick, and he'll spray the ball across the field, and those are good things. They don't guarantee a big ceiling for either of these tools, but they're both things that won't need to be taught.

Speed ratings tend to sit between 60 and 70, which is like saying it's either good or great. Gordon certainly doesn't have speed like the aforementioned Turner, or his brother Dee, but it is considered a plus. I tend to look at the most pessimistic reports, because conservative can also be interchanged with "worst case scenario". In regards to Gordon and his speed, it means that he's an average-plus base runner with speed that helps him move laterally in the field, but he's more likely to be quicker going first to third on a triple than he is home to second on a double.

Defensively is where Gordon shines, and truly separates himself from the pack. The range is good, but what piques the interest of clubs at the top of the draft are his hands and the incredible arm. With the arm, there is no discrepancy in reports: it's a 70 almost across the board, with one 65 rating. He looks natural playing the position, moving to his left and to his right with ease, getting rave reviews for his soft hands (DRAFT BUZZ PHRASE ALERT) and a plus-plus arm. The arm is one reason why he was also promising as a pitcher, throwing mid-90s heat.

video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFSRrwUuBrE

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110. "Gordon fits better with what the Twins have been doing"
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Athletic, high-ceiling position players are how the system has started rebuilding, but a true shortstop with real offensive upside is the one thing that it's still missing. I can't even squint and see Gordon's upside as a 1/2 hitter in Danny Santana, and I can't see Gordon's likely defense in Jorge Polanco. The other cool thing is that it's not crazypants to think his MLB'ng family means he's substantially more polished than other high school products and could move quickly.

All that said, I don't hate Nola as much as I've hated the idea of Twins going polished NCAA arm with plus-command in the past. The recent rash of Tommy John surgeries from guys who've been throwing upper-90s since they were sixteen years old kind of warms me on the guy (who does have a real fastball, so we're not talking Nick Blackburn here) who reminds me of nothing else than Jered Weaver.

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111. "I caught a walleye yesterday"
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It was young and tiny and catching it was kind of an accident. But still.

Up for the draft. Final BA mock says Twins/Gordon again. Usually, saying "BA mock" sufficiently conveys the idea that you're most interested in accuracy, but Callis has moved on to MLB.com, so it's worth noting that one too... which also has Nick Gordon. Though the interesting thing there is that Alex Jackson falls to (and past) the Twins. I like Gordon a lot, but if Jackson is available then I love that idea.

UofHartford LHP Sean Newcomb, who I haven't talked about at all is apparently also a late possibility. Short story: he throws mid-90s, looks like a jerk, and is working on some potentially plus secondary offerings which are still a bit raw since he's a cold weather kid.

I'll apparently hiking or doing some other nature-y stuff this afternoon while this happens. So I hope to come back and see... actually, I don't know. Usually my strongest reactions are against players and not for players, but most of the names so far have been pretty positive. I even think there's more upside in the usual Twins-take-polished-NCAA-strike-thrower, Aaron Nola.

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112. "LAWD, take correia away from us, PLEASE!"
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5 IP
10 H
5 ER
3 SO
2 HR

ERA 6.11. 1.55 WHIP.

go. just go.

in other news, i'm kind of tickled the twins took gordon over a polished NCAA arm. it's been more of thing in recent years, but it's still fun. like other OKTwins, i'm hoping his pedigree results in some fast movement ... because i like SS who can actually hit AND field.

  

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113. "May and Meyer are both better *right now*"
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>5 IP
>10 H
>5 ER
>3 SO
>2 HR
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>ERA 6.11. 1.55 WHIP.
>
>go. just go.

It's gotten kind of nuts with him, yeah. I think they were hoping he could luck into some back-of-rotation-stability type wins and become tradeable by July or whatever. But it's not happening and this team is kind of hanging around.

They've pushed other shitty veterans into the water before, though. So hopefully one of May or Meyer really starts pushing the issue.

>in other news, i'm kind of tickled the twins took gordon over
>a polished NCAA arm. it's been more of thing in recent years,
>but it's still fun. like other OKTwins, i'm hoping his
>pedigree results in some fast movement ... because i like SS
>who can actually hit AND field.

Me too. The amount of arms in the draft was really tempting and in retrospect, I think some guys like Nola may have gotten that "rising tide lifts all boats" narrative under them. I like the funky arm angle, but I may have been reaching to see Jered Weaver there - and I don't even like Jered Weaver that much.

The Burdi pick still sort of fascinates me. I hate the idea of picking a college closer, but this isn't Chad Cordero upside - 103mph is Aroldis Chapman territory. Shit, his slider would compete for the fastest pitch in the Twins rotation right now. We'll see.

In a moderate timing coincidence, Lewis Thorpe has been promoted to Cedar Rapids. He's an 18 year old lefty with plus command, a fastball that has scraped the mid-90s and which works consistently in the low-90s. And he's got an advanced changeup. That's an early first-round draft profile for somebody his age, except that he's got two pro seasons under his belt.

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114. "BA on Burdi"
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I will say it softens the reliever thing to that he was picked like fifteen minutes before Jared Burton exploded.

"Hes athletic with tremendous arm strength and runs his fastball into the 96-100 mph range consistently, maintaining that velocity over two- and three-inning outings. He has reached up to 103, and his fastball earns 80 grades from most scouts on the 20-80 scale. Burdis slider gives him a second premium pitch, reaching as high as 92-93 mph and sitting 87-90 with depth. One area scout called it hard, late and unfair. Scouts dont consider his delivery and mentality suited for starting. He has learned to repeat his delivery better and should have enough control to close, and he could reach the major leagues in short order."

The 2-3 inning thing is interesting. I don't see the Twins rocking the boat on closer use, though.

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116. "correia isn't built for the AL"
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he seems a perfectly cromulent NL pitcher ... maybe bomb would take a straight swap of revere for correia?

>In a moderate timing coincidence, Lewis Thorpe has been
>promoted to Cedar Rapids. He's an 18 year old lefty with plus
>command, a fastball that has scraped the mid-90s and which
>works consistently in the low-90s. And he's got an advanced
>changeup. That's an early first-round draft profile for
>somebody his age, except that he's got two pro seasons under
>his belt.

so, he's australian ... does that mean he's the new thorpedo by default?

  

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117. "Would but Bomb were responsible for evaluating offers"
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>he seems a perfectly cromulent NL pitcher ... maybe bomb
>would take a straight swap of revere for correia?

I'd do this in a second. Too bad.

>so, he's australian ... does that mean he's the new thorpedo
>by default?

A thousand times yes.

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118. "Wow @ Cederoth... another 100mph+ fastball"
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This is new for them. Unlike Burdi, Cederoth has started recently - and he profiled as a (possibly high) first rounder while people were still speculating that maybe he'd get his mechanics in order in that role. But he was a closer this year and that's likely where he'll end up. The Twins have (without much success) tried the strategy of moving NCAA bullpen arms into starting roles, and it seems more likely they'll try that with Cederoth than with Burdi. But I guess we'll see.

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119. "Berrios passing Kohl Stewart?"
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Stewart's actually having a really nice season in Cedar Rapids, and in the name of development, has mostly shelved his apparently plus slider in favor of working on fastball command, his changeup, and a curveball. The slider isn't gone for good, just against competition that he can fully crap on with just the fastball/slider combination.

But Berrios, who just turned 20 last week, hasn't given up more than two runs in a start in over a month, and has struck out more than a batter per inning in every start since then. Last one was thirteen strikeouts in seven innings, with one hit and no walks. Tonight was eight strikeouts in seven innings, with seven hits, no walks, and one earned run. On the season, he's nearing that awesome ratio that Johan Santana used to ding - where he's striking out more guys than are getting on base. He's at 72 strikeouts to 73 walks + hits after tonight.

Anyhow, the idea that he's now only behind Alex Meyer in system pitching prospects has been floated by a few writers, and it's for the delightful reason of nothing going wrong with Kohl Stewart, who maintains his ace upside and has thrown in fine results in his first look at full-season ball. It's for the simple reason that Berrios, only five months older, is dominating high-A ball and making a strong case for a mid-season promotion.

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120. "you get kendrys morales!"
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Not really excited. That mileage varies in direct proportion to one's belief in the 2014 Twins as a contender and mine is low.

I like the idea of them supporting future, actually good Twins teams this way though. I don't think that emotion meets the bar of excitement though.

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122. "Gordon signs for slot"
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Great news. Hopefully, doesn't dip into the fund for Burdi and Cederoth and Curtiss. And it could get him in E-Town almost in time for their season opener.

As a related note, the earlier signing deadline has been a great look for the Twins general desire for more signable talents. Getting Buxton and Stewart in a uniform by early July as made their draft year and actual, usable developmental year. That matters for a team trying to rebuild.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/blogs/262399391.html

Twins close agree to terms with top pick Gordon
Posted by: La Velle E. Neal III Updated: June 9, 2014 - 1:32 PM 1

The Twins will announce this afternoon that they have agreed to terms with first-round draft pick Nick Gordon to a deal for the $3.85 million bonus recommended by the league, according to sources familiar with negotiations.

Major League Baseball's exact assigned value for the No. 5 overall pick is $3.851,000.

Gordon, a shortstop who starred at Olympia High in Orlando, Fla., is expected to begin his professional career at Elizabethton, Tenn., home of the Twins' rookie team in the Appalachian League.
One happy person will be former major leaguer Tom Gordon, Nick's father, who was hoping for a quick negation so his son could get his career started.

Negotiations have been going smoothly, but some final details needed to be hammered out.

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123. "26%"
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That's Joe Mauer's linedrive percentage. While we don't necessarily need to assume that all of these balls are well-struck, we can sell on Joe Mauer's power and still determine that he's hitting baseballs well enough to be hitting over .261. His groundball rate isn't really encouraging that there's a secretly good Joe Mauer season in here, but I'd like to draw your attention to this:

.560/.560/.700

That's Joe Mauer's 2014 line on linedrives. Obviously, nobody is walking once they hit a linedrive, so the OBA and BA are identical. Until he hits a sacrifice liner, then the OBA will be lower. Fun. It seems like a good line, but once you compare it to his traditional linedrive average, it looks kind of meager:

.736/.733/.963

That's nearly .200 points of batting average. And Joe Mauer hits a lot of linedrives. Ten additional singles would bring his linedrive average up to .760 and his seasonal average up to a more Mauerian .303. Again, I'm fine selling on the power - though if the fact of shifting outfields is what's causing this than it's also reasonable to suggest that a lot of his doubles are now turning into singles due to better-positioned outfielders. But the lack of singles is weird.

Observationally, I'd say he may be hitting the ball less hard. But a much stronger observation is that he's hitting into shifts ALL THE FUCKING TIME. The good thing about that is that it means that Joe Mauer as we know him isn't dead and broken. The bad news is that it's not just simple bad luck. Mauer needs to make an actual adjustment, something he's never done particularly well. The attempted bunt hit in yesterday's game was kind of a useful sign to me. It would have gone for a double if it'd stayed six inches to the right. Given his talent for linedrive contact, laying down some damaging bunts with runners on base *could* be enough to discourage the big shift (usually, it's infielders to the right and outfielders to the left). He'd be stuck again with bases empty, so the next step is developing some pull power - which I actually believe is something he's tried to do, with the only positive development being his increased strikeout rate (due to a willingness to chase high fastballs).

In short, this is fixable. But it's a real problem that he'll have to figure out.

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127. "thanks for this, btw"
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narrative up here is getting pretty ugly for joe. people talking about sports psychologists or him being a father ruining his competitive drive. ugh.

  

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128. "Gross"
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I'd love for people to watch his game yesterday and tell me what was different about his approach or the balls off of his bat than usual. There was an article on fangraphs like three years ago that suggested the shift that everybody is playing on Mauer right now:

-infielders all move over to the right side
-outfielders all move over to the left side

All that happened yesterday is that balls found holes when they haven't been lately.

The suck narrative of talk radio is that pointing out Mauer's ball-in-play "luck" is somehow an excuse, but there's a ton of room to say that there's nothing broken about Mauer or his approach at the plate *and* he needs to make adjustments. Because after a decade, the league has finally adjusted to him. It's funny that it took the widespread popularization of defensive shifts for it to happen, at least on the two-tier'd front where the outfielders shift too. A few teams have always shifted their infielders with him (Brewers come to mind) but only recently has the outfield swing-around occurred.

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124. "I can't tell a Correia fastball from a changeup"
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That is all.

He just got a big swinging third strike on an honest to God curveball. Maybe more of those please? I realize he's not a crafty lefty, but since he's definitely closer to that than a power righty than maybe following Dallas Keuchel's example from the other day and throwing nothing hard and nothing straight is the way to go. Who cares what it does to his arm?

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125. "Brian Dozier is the best 2B in the AL right now / Rosario returns"
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He's actually tied with Chase Utley for best in MLB by WAR (2.5) right now, and the offensive gap between Dozier and the rest of the league's 2B is not small. There was a fair amount of "what do we have in Brian Dozier?" talk this off-season, and I stood somewhat firmly in the wait-and-see camp. A breakout season is nice, but that power outbreak for a guy who never showed anything like that in the minors seemed like a possible illusion. Now, a 365 day sample of his work gives us a .249/.338/.458. The power is real, the low BA is real and likely due to a flyball-first approach that makes his non-homers pretty easy to record as outs. But what he's really added this year is a great eye at the plate that, as has been discussed above, seems to be spreading in Twins Territory.

This seems like an apt time to revisit the "what do we have in Brian Dozier?" question because Eddie Rosario just made his triumphant return from a 50 game "apparently, really loves smoking weed" suspension. After a refresher in Ft. Myers, he's been in New Britain for four games and is hitting .438/.500/.658. Defense is a question. Apparently delight in illegal substance is a question - though less of one once he's on the 40-man and isn't subject to testing for recreational drugs. But we can't let a 50 game absence make us forget that he can fucking hit and hit and hit and hit.

Add Jorge Polanco to the 2B mix and we're suddenly absurdly deep in one middle infield position. He's being tried at shortstop, but most scouts doubt he'll have the arm for the position - particularly when he profiles as a pretty good defender at second and his bat is making such huge strides. Though perhaps being blocked by Dozier and Rosario will make that SS look a bit longer. Dozier is 27, traditional peak age and will still be subject to serf wages through the 2015 season.

There's actually a good analogy for how to proceed with this: Denard Span. With the imminent departure of Torii Hunter after the 2007 season, the Twins cast a wide net for the next legacy centerfielder. They traded for Jason Pridie and Carlos Gomez. And they drafted Aaron Hicks and Ben Revere. As it turned out, the best answer (for the time period) was already in the system, as Span turned into the high-OBA, good defensive option the team needed. Prior to the 2010 season, when still making serf money he signed a very team friendly six year extension with the Twins that provided solid insurance against an arbitration bonanza, capping at 6.5mm in what would be his first FA year *and* providing a pretty cheap 9mm team option.

That's a contract the Twins would have been happy to hold onto and play. Span was a solid player and a good fit in Minnesota, but with Hicks' semi-breakout (oops?) and Revere (who I honestly believe they didn't intend to shop last winter) available they couldn't resist the potential ace swap of Alex Meyer. Soooooo, when you look at the above names (Gomez, Revere, Hicks, Pridie, Span) things are a bit murky. The best of the group is presently destroying the universe in Milwaukee. But Span's team-friendly deal created a nice flexibility that permits us to talk, briefly, in big-picture generalities where the front office has turned that group into:

-a potential #1 starter
-a potential high-K mid-rotation starter
-a starting shortstop
-a young, toolsy CFer that still has a shot at being a good MLB starter

Signing Dozier to something similar gives the Twins a similar flexibility to keep his cheap production on both sides of the ball around or to trade him to a contender for more parts that'll be part of the next great Twins team and then to see what they have in Polanco and Rosario.

The tough part is figuring out who amounts to what. Though I'm pleased with the general outcomes above, it still could have turned out better. There's a strong possibility the Twins backed the wrong guy in Hicks. And they traded away JJ Hardy, making that Gomez trade pretty ugly considering they could have just kept him and then pursued Hardy some other way since the Brewers were clearly kind of done with him.

The additional difficulty is that, unlike the 2008-2010 Twins, Terry Ryan has to accurately gauge the Twins' window of competitiveness. It seems clear that Dozier will provide the most value through 2015, and likely 2016. But then he'll be 30 and both Polanco and Rosario could have graduated to and/or from the upper minors. Who is the most valuable in 2017 and on? Can the Twins be competitive before 2017?

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126. "ugh... this Kendrys Morales thing is going to get me hopeful"
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When Mauer is getting on base, there's a ton of ways for this lineup to score. Particularly if I continue being wrong about Danny Santana's bat. His total disinterest in taking a walk makes me doubtful about that, but whatever. That hasn't stopped my enthusiasm for Oswaldo Arcia.

Ideally, Aaron Hicks will return to AAA to learn how to be a right handed batter - because Danny Santana isn't a centerfielder. And Hicks actually does that in a manner that permits him to be an actual lineup asset instead of a black hole of sucking. And Pinto has the same process. I like the idea of going into, say, July, with this:

1. Brian Dozier, 2B
2. Joe Mauer, 1B
3. Josh Willingham, LF
4. Kendrys Moralez, DH
5. Oswaldo Arcia, RF
6. Trevor Plouffe, 3B
7. Josmil Pinto, C
8. Aaron Hicks, CF
9. Danny Santana, SS

That's... a pretty good lineup - wishcasting on Pinto/Hicks notwithstanding.

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129. "Roundup! - Burdi, Perkins/Pinto, Berrios, Rochester commuters"
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1. Twins are close to signing 2nd round pick Nick Burdi at slot or slightly over. There was a lot of eyebrow-raising about the amount of relievers that the Twins picked, and though I'm skeptical about their plan to try and find power arms by moving relievers to the rotation based on prior outcomes (Boer, Melotakis, Gutierrez, etc.) it's probably worth pointing out that Burdi and Cederoth both fell past where most draft journalists expected. So it may be the case that neither of them was part of a plan so much as the Twins finding the "best available" were a pair of guys that throw 100mph. Anyhow, Gordon, Cederoth, Sam Clay, and Jake Reed have all signed as well. Burdi is a certainty for the pen, and may be one of the relievers in the Twins organization right now. In one inning outings, there's not a lot to teach somebody who throws 103mph and has a 92 mph slider. Cederoth may actually get a shot at starting. We'll see.

http://www.twincities.com/twins/ci_25980079/twins-close-deal-second-round-draft-pick-nick

2. Glen Perkins thinks that Josmil Pinto sucks at pitch-framing. Fair enough, say the numbers on the topic. I don't really feel like looking up how often he caught Perkins (though at an inning-at-a-time, it's probably not too many total pitches) but I think I read somewhere that Pinto's been frequently paired with Sam Fuckin' Deduno, who is notoriously difficult to catch. The numbers also say that Kurt Suzuki is pretty terrible at pitch-framing. So maybe Glen Perkins should shut the fuck up about it?

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_25979219/twins-glen-perkins-offers-candid-comments-about-josmil

3. Jose Berrios is a monster sent to scare children. Or Florida State League hitters. After a 7 inning, nine strikeout, one hit, 0 R performance yesterday, he stands at a 2.09 ERA on the season. And he's now struck out more batters (90) than he's permitted on base (83). That's a statistically meaningless milestone that I happen to really enjoy because Johan Santana did it pretty regularly in his awesome, awesome prime. In any case, I don't really think Berrios belongs in high-A ball anymore, but the Twins are either waiting for the end of the first half of the season (they have a 1st half and 2nd half champion in the FSL) or for the adjustment to Berrios. I think I'd rather them wait for the latter with him in AA, but the one warning is that he wore down last year. So we may have to wait on that verdict.

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=621244

4. Sam Fuckin' Deduno has been terrible in the rotation. So he's being replaced. Leading options were: Alex Meyer, the awesome #1 pitching prospect in the organization who has shown ace-like dominance amidst the occasional "meh" performance; Trevor May, re-ascendant fallen prospect who is starting to look viable as a high-K, middle of rotation workhorse; and Yohan Pino, in his second stint as a Twins minor leaguer, who earned some acclaim a half-decade ago as a player who can best be described as "Venezuelan Kevin Slowey."

May also nearly threw a complete game shutout the other day, striking out 11 in 8.1 innings. It turns out, Trevor May without walks is a pretty good pitcher.

Obviously, because this is the Twins, Pino gets the first crack at the job. I don't even know if he was on the 40-man and kind of assumed he wasn't. I guess he took Jason Kubel's slot? Whatever. It's a nice story because the dude is 30 and has a really excellent minorleague track record without ever wearing an MLB uniform. And the Twins aren't that good and he started his pro career with them. I like that Yohan Pino isn't going to end his career without pitching in the major leagues and I like that the Twins are the team that's giving him that shot. But I have to admit being sort of like "b-b-b-b-but Alex Meyer."

http://www.twincities.com/twins/ci_25981553/twins-yohan-pino-gets-start-sam-deduno-goes

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>"Venezuelan Kevin Slowey."

better pitcher than "native american joe pesci"?

  

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131. "It's slightly weird how much I have in common with other Twins fans"
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I have a grand total of two close friends in the entire world. Three if you include my wife, who is indeed my friend but who has also voluntarily entered into a contract wherein we pretty much have to like about 85% of the same movies/books/music.

Whether by coincidence or subconscious vetting gesture, these are the only two (three) people I know who regularly cite Kiss Kiss Bang Bang as an important cultural touchstone.

Is it possible that I'm just wrong about how successful that movie was and have simply been talking to an improbable selection of cultural illiterates who haven't seen or don't like it? Or do the few people who respond on this thread just have extraordinarily good taste?

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132. "a little from A and a little from B"
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>Is it possible that I'm just wrong about how successful that
>movie was and have simply been talking to an improbable
>selection of cultural illiterates who haven't seen or don't
>like it? Or do the few people who respond on this thread just
>have extraordinarily good taste?

B: OKTwins fans are an impeccably cultured slice of humanity, so there is no surprise to find love for kiss kiss bang bang here.

A: i would assume your specialized scholastic endeavors don't expose you to a lot of pop-culture savvy individuals. i'm likely generalizing quite a bit, but it's just a hunch.

and KKBB was, and still is, highly underrated ... though, i think the hyper-dialogue and "aren't i clever" voice over gave an air of condescension. sad, really, because it's a great movie.

avclub did a new cult canon on it a while back:
http://www.avclub.com/article/the-new-cult-canon-ikiss-kiss-bang-bangi-2300

think i know what's going in the movie player tonight.

  

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133. "I'll take it"
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>B: OKTwins fans are an impeccably cultured slice of humanity,
>so there is no surprise to find love for kiss kiss bang bang
>here.

More and more, this seems to be the case. Lucky us.

>A: i would assume your specialized scholastic endeavors don't
>expose you to a lot of pop-culture savvy individuals. i'm
>likely generalizing quite a bit, but it's just a hunch.

That's pretty much right, though the ascendancy of the one-hour cable TV drama does kind of shade the matter a bit. When I first started in this racket, people would mostly geek out when it came to, say, creating a Venn Diagram to explain how the Matrix sequels described Marcionite cosmology.* Now, pretty much anything you'd expect is fair game but most people are pretty safely behind the curve. So I can't get a friend# to shut up about whether Breaking Bad or Sopranos has more thoroughly understood the mechanics of human evil^ but that conversation didn't even start until Breaking Bad was nearly done.


*yes, this happened.
#also a Twins fan
^it's the Sopranos

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136. "only got 15 minutes deep before family responsibilities took over"
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but i did get to this classic line:
"me? no. i'm knee-deep in pussy. i just like the name so much, i can't get rid of it."

and i still haven't watched the sopranos. i tried a few years back, but couldn't make it past the first few episodes.

  

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137. "Hooray for Gay Perry!"
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>and i still haven't watched the sopranos. i tried a few years
>back, but couldn't make it past the first few episodes.

I love it deeply. I think it's a genuinely important show that says something simple but uncommon about our relationship with sin: that it beguiles us by offering comfort. Nobody ever chooses what they understand as "evil."

But I'm done telling people what they simply MUST be watching. Too much good stuff. Too little time.

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134. "Kyle Gibson scouts Kyle Gibson"
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I've said it before, but this team is on its way to having the most vanilla personality core in baseball. With Mauer now and Gibson's success this season making him appear at least a rotation stability going forward, there's going to be a lot of shitty interviews. And Byron Buxton seems very, very smart and an unfailingly polite young man. But he's super boring as well.

We need Oswaldo Arcia to succeed.

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135. "Jinxes are dumb, but goddamn Jack Morris"
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The very next pitch?

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138. "First four game sweep in Target Field"
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Seven games from the halfway point. I'm considering being excited about this team. Here's what I need in that time:

1) at least four wins
2) more signs that Joe Mauer isn't a zombie
3) Arcia breaking out of this awful, awful slump with a giant homerun
4) Another high-K start from Kyle Gibson
5) Morales/Willingham breakout

Pending these events, I'll consider caring about the season outcome for this present group of Twins.

What're your requirements?

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139. "for a team in spitting distance of .500, they're unexceptional"
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something interesting needs to happen in the second half. a push for playoff contention would be interesting, but i don't see it happening ... so ... someone on this team needs to generate some excitement. dozier and hughes are having nice seasons, but not crazy seasons.

just feels like a blah year despite being above expectation.

  

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140. "That's a good point - good teams have award candidates"
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Phil Hughes is fifth amongst AL pitchers in WAR. Brian Dozier is fifth amongst position players. Both of them could/should get some downballot action for their contributions if they continue. But that's not really a shiny "LOOK HOW GOOD WE ARE" good star.

I'd like to say that it's just an evenly talented team, but that's pretty clearly not the case either.

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141. "Wow... Yohan Pino optioned, Jorge Polanco promoted from Ft. Myers"
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Youngest Twin debut since Joe Mauer. He is having a really nice couple years as a prospect. Sort of rare in the game at this point, a tough strikeout with a good eye at the plate. But that batting profile was established as a guy who is young for the Florida State League and not one who is ... young for MLB action.

These pitchers are going to take all of his lunch money. And he might not be a shortstop when all is said and done. But Danny Santana is injured. And James Beresford is apparently not on the 40 man.

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154. "Welcome to the majors!"
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A two run triple against a top-shelf closer as Polanco's first MLB hit? Awesome.

This is very, very temporary - though maybe longer with Santana's trip to the DL. But it says a lot about Polanco that the team was willing to do it - that he's steady enough to be non-embarassing and that they think it'll be a good motivator for him to get this short MLB stay rather than the sort of thing that'll give him prospect whiplash.

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142. "i think yesterday makes it eight straight road losses ... "
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which we haven't done in the previous three seasons when we were, ya know, terrible.

so that's your ray of positivity for the day. happy friday, everyone.

  

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143. "It's been a sweep/sweep/sweep right?"
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Very weird. Mauer's been hitting the ball harder lately though. I was ready to leap through the screen and punch Mike Trout if he'd ended up catching that double Mauer hit yesterday. Like "don't. just don't. Mauer needs this."

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144. "we got the first one in detroit ... then ... not so good"
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my brain: mike trout >> lake trout >> strawberry soda >> the wire >> bodie >> damn, i need to watch the wire again because bodie is the man

  

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145. "Knowing the Brodie arc... is that a good reason?"
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I mean, I'm with you every step of that Joycean mental sequencing, even inserting the necessary "no lake, no trout." But I can't sign onto your conclusion. Bodie's rise and fall and rise and fall are one of the things that keep me from watching that show on a perpetual loop. Too, too sad. Weirdly, almost because of his scaled-back ambitions. He just wanted to sell drugs un-molested by arbitrary ethical standards universally enforced by murder.

As a sidenote, the "no lake no trout" reference doesn't play at all when one is eating with my wife's parents at some place in Grand Marais that takes a tremendous amount of pride in its not-at-all-cheap fresh caught lake trout sandwich.

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146. "bodie has some of the best interplay with the police in the show"
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plus, he's one of the few to go out on his own terms.

though, S1 bodie is a little hard to take at times.

  

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147. "That's a good point - McNulty & Bodie together were gold"
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>plus, he's one of the few to go out on his own terms.

Those terms bum me out though.

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148. "Walleye, are you getting into The Wire?"
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We need to talk about this.

Also, I'm resolved tot he Twins maybe not winning another road series outside of the division this year.

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150. "Not freshly - I caught the last two seasons on-air"
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I revisit it every couple of years too, so I'm always up for The Wire chatter. We'd run through it even more often in the Walleye household if my wife didn't work in education policy and find season four just too sad to even exist.

Since it's more compelling than the present Twins team, here's something to throw against a wall. My personal season rankings:

4, 1, 3, 2, 5

Though looking at that, it seems utterly uncontroversial. Even if a single somebody disagreed, mine looks pretty close to what you'd get if you polled 100 Wire viewers.

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151. "My only difference might be flipping 1 and 3"
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But that's kind of a nitpick.

S2 isn't as bad as it's reputation, but for me it took about three viewings before it really connected with me.

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152. "ooh! wire season rankings!"
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not that i will be veering off into controversial territory.

because i am indecisive, i like platforms or tiers better.

4, 2
3, 1

5

i know will has argued vehemently for S3 to be top of the pile, and i get that, but it's never the season i think of when considering the awesomeness of the show ... which is weird considering the epic chase to get stringer by multiple parties, his eventual end, the rise of marlo, hamsterdam and the internal combustion of the police department.

honestly, i could put S1-4 on the same level depending on the day of the week. 5 is the only easy decision. a couple more episodes to slow the serial killer storyline and it would have been gold. is it true the writer's strike caused the shortened 5th season or am i fucking up again?

  

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153. "I think we're going to have to require a commitment"
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Your tiers are fair, but they look like there's a lot of content congruity driving them. Like grouping one and three together? I'm suspicious.

Sin boldly, as noted heretic Martin Luther would say.

>i know will has argued vehemently for S3 to be top of the
>pile, and i get that, but it's never the season i think of
>when considering the awesomeness of the show ... which is
>weird considering the epic chase to get stringer by multiple
>parties, his eventual end, the rise of marlo, hamsterdam and
>the internal combustion of the police department.

This, I like. To me, it's the most "great TV show season" feeling of the five, but that actually places it further away from what made the show great, which was an eccentric commitment to ambiguity, character relapse, and the least common philosophical foundation for modern entertainment: good, old fashioned arbitrary determinism.

>honestly, i could put S1-4 on the same level depending on the
>day of the week. 5 is the only easy decision. a couple more
>episodes to slow the serial killer storyline and it would have
>been gold. is it true the writer's strike caused the shortened
>5th season or am i fucking up again?

My understanding was that Simon had to be begged to make another season, and he did, and five was what we got. Writers strike didn't factor. But I'm willing to be corrected on that point.

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159. "Follow-up: What is the genre?"
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My book club has been dealing with Chandler's "The Long Goodbye" and pretty much every meeting turns to the relationship between a whole bunch of words and pages configured into a story and the expectations of a genre like "noir".

It's an odd discussion for my pleasure reading, just because I grew up in the 90s when all I knew was artists, particularly musicians, pretending that there was something restrictive or reductive about their work being part of a type. But, and maybe this is more the case with narrative works of fiction, I think it's a necessary part of the work.

Genre asks questions that particular pieces of art take on to answer. So what kind of show is The Wire?

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149. "MiLB roundup: Hicks, Gordon, Buxton, Futures"
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1. Aaron Hicks hit a homerun against a righty yesterday. He was hitting right-handed. We'll call this positive progress, as he's be optioned to AA New Britain to figure out how to be a right-handed hitter. What a fucking screwup though, the way the Twins have handled him

2. Nick Gordon is off to a solid start in E-Town, an aggressive assignment for a high school draftee. Even Byron Buxton started off in the GCL. Gordon's not drawing walks yet, but he's shown good contact abilities, has been crafty on the bases, and is showing better-than-expected power already with a gap double and the homer, which came off a lefty.

3. Byron Buxton is hitting off a tee. He apparently has a timeline for return, but Terry Ryan doesn't want to tell us because wrist injuries can linger so long. To that, I say "thanks, dude." I don't want to hear "By August 1st" and then worry that something else went wrong if he's not back by then.

4. The Twins are going to be well-represented in the Futures Game at Target Field, even without Buxton. Jose Berrios and Kennys Vargas were selected for the "World" team, while Trevor Mays will make an appearance for the US team. Make sure to watch future Twins.

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155. "LEN3 seems like he's filing stories from his phone: Buxton update"
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Taking batting practice. Maybe. Terry Ryan maybe knows something or doesn't. But he's not telling us.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/blogs/265009681.html#VsIeDlgyXLzxPGZQ.97

Here are three thoughts following the Twins' loss to Texas
OUTFIELD: This is not meant to bash Josh Willingham. The Twins signed him to hit. He's never been a great outfielder and he knows his limitations out there. For example, Delmon Young made mistakes in the outfield trying to do things he can't do. Willingham is not like that. But I felt he shouldn't have dived for the sinking fly ball in the fifth. He usually plays it safe there. But that play was rendered moot by the double off the wall. That was going to be a tough play for Willingham from the start. A more agile outfielder has a better chance at catching the second ball than Willingham does. What the Twins need to address during the offseason is getting someone who can cover ground in left field and at least have two guys with good range out there (because Oswaldo Arcia will be in right). Target Field is more pitcher friendly than hitter friendly, but the ERA of Twins pitchers is SUFFERING because there's only one player with range in the outfield. Arcia to DH? Don't think so. Because DH should go to Morales, if the Twins bring him back, or..........Kennys Vargas.

POLANCO: Jorge Polanco said his mother, Ynes, is coming to see him play. He plans to present her with the ball from his first major league hit. Polanco hit a two-run triple in the ninth inning on Friday. ``The kid, who knew what to expect? You're putting him into a big situation late in the game. We know he can hit. He's got to work on the defensive part, a lot of parts he has to work on. But the kid can swing the bat.''

BUXTON: Terry Ryan wasn't sure, but he thought Byron Buxton took batting practice on Wednesday. If not, then he's real close. That means he needs a few days of batting practice/full pre-game work then he'll probably play in a few camp games before the Twins will be ready to send him to a farm team. But it appears that he's getting closer to getting on the field.

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156. "Twins sign Huascar Ynoa, 800K"
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Sixteen year old pitchers. Live to dream.

Relatedly, the Cedar Rapids rotation just added Lewis Thorpe - who is still just eighteen. After getting shelled in his first start, the sort of growing pains that hopefully build character, he's been solid against players who average about four years of experience over him.

If gravity happens to shake any of you toward Cedar Rapids, the lone positive of that outcome would be catching this Kernal staff in action.

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Shortly after the International signing period opened today at 8am, MLB.com's Jesse Sanchez tweeted that the Twins had an agreement with RHP Huascar Ynoa. Ynoa ranked 17th on MLB.com's top prospects. Baseball America placed Ynoa 14th on their list.
Ynoa is a 6-2, 190 lb righthander who just recently turned 16. Earlier in the process, there was some belief that Ynoa was the top available pitcher in this signing period.

Over a year ago, while participating in the 15U WWBA National Championship, Ynoa's fastball sat between 85-91 and Perfect Game called him "among the most impressive arms" at the tournament. As of late, he's been clocked at high as 94.

But his ability is polarizing...

Baseball America's profile of Ynoa said this:
Some scouts still regard him as a potential frontline starter with quality stuff across the board, but his control has vanished at times, which has left him with one of the most uncertain statuses among the top July 2 prospects this year.

MLB.com said this:
When Ynoa is on, he's really on and he's arguably the best pitcher on the market. But when he's not on, he frustrates observers and draws the ire of scouts who have high expectations for the teenager.
Ynoa's older brother, Michael, still holds the record for the largest bonus given to an international pitcher ($4.25m). Michael is 6-7, so there this plenty of time for lots of projection with Huascar. His ceiling is that of someone who could potentially be a top-of-the-rotation starter - he throws four pitches - but saddling anyone at 16 with that label is irresponsible.

At the minimum, the Twins have added a potentially high-upside arm for less than $1m. He'll get all the time in the world to develop and will join the DSL Twins in 2015.

The Twins would still have $2,886,600 to play with in this signing period, but it sounds like Ynoa will be the most expensive signing.

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157. "Mauer to DL, Colabello up"
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Mauer the last two weeks: .362/.400/.489

Fucking... balls.

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158. "Some fun MiLB stuff: Tossing Thorpedos in Cedar Rapids"
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I think those BPro articles are free, if you're interested. The link is to the Buxton one, but there's a menu to the Berrios and Stewart writeups. The feature is basically taking two prospects for each matchup that expect to end up in BPro's top-50 (apparently, there will be FIVE Twins) and comparing them. I like the multiple views offered, but the most compelling thing is the discussion of development paths. Stewart has moments of looking ace-y, and has impressively done that without substantial use of his best weapon (slider "too good" for the low minors) but needs to tick up in fastball command to meet that #1/2 starter potential.

They loooooooove Berrios, but need to see him hold his form over the long season. I realize this thread has gotten even more prospect-heavy than usual, but articles like these are useful for keeping our eye on the ball: what's the next great Twins team going to look like? Answering the questions of what these guys need to do to make the leap from top prospects to MLB All-Stars is helpful.

1. Ian Thorpe showed what he was capable of last night in Cedar Rapids. They're limiting his pitches carefully so he only went 4.2. But he struck out eight, walked zero, 5 H, 1 R.

2. BPro has featured Twins in three consecutive "Top 50" smackdowns:

Today, Buxton vs. Correa: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=24070

Fun snippets: "In Buxton, we are talking about a Torii Hunter defender for the next decade."

"I've spoken with several scouts who have suggested Buxton has the raw power to produce 30 home runs if everything clicks, which is a little too rich for my tastes but speaks of his enormous potential with the bat."

Last week, Kohl Stewart vs. Hunter Harvey:

"The slider has the best projection of the three, featuring 11-to-3 movement and sharp break in the mid-to-high 80s. It's not a pitch he throws for strikes just yet, and the Twins have taken it away from him to some extent, because it's too good for low-minors hitters."

"Stewarts raw stuff is of a very high caliber. The outcome can be huge. But right now, the secondary stuff as a whole tends to flash and nothing more."

Last Week, Berrios vs. Daniel Norris:

"Even in a one-on-one debate against another prospect, Berrios' case stands for itself. There's little not to like about Berrios. Fastball velocity? Check. I've seen him at 94-95 and we have reports on him touching 98. Dominant breaking ball? Check. Take your pick, in fact. He flashed a potentially plus curve ball that may be his fourth best pitch. His slider is a true wipeout pitch that can miss left or right-handed bats, and I got one report where a left-handed batter swung and missed at a slider that hit him in the knee. You want a changeup? Check there too."

"The endurance question is real, but it's the only thing Berrios needs to prove to justify inclusion among the games top prospects. That's why he's being discussed in the back-half of the 50 instead of even higher where his stuff belongs."

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160. "What is a Zelous Wheeler and why is he homering off us?"
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161. "He's like 27 and making his MLB debut"
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Still, he should take his awesome story and go fuck some other team with it. Jerk.

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162. "Holy crap, Dellin Betances is a giant human"
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Being able to do this firebreathing monster schtick for seven innings as a starter is basically the ideal outcome for Alex Meyer.

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163. "STUFF: Trades, Buxton, Meyer, Sano, Berrios"
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1. Jon Heyman says the Twins will try to trade Correia and Willingham if the team doesn't turn it around. No shit. Both of these players are the sort that can occasionally bring back surprising hauls, but neither is so big that it's worth speculating on who. Toronto may be a target for Willingham if Encarnacion is out for awhile.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24608603/willingham-correia-expected-to-hit-market-barring-twins-turnaround

2. Byron Buxton returned. He went 0-2 in a scheduled short start before being replaced by Max Kepler. He also apparently made an amazing catch on the warning track.

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Byron_Buxton_will_play_center_field_today_for_the_Fort_Myers_Miracle070614

3. Alex Meyer will be replacing Trevor May (calf injury) on the Futures Game roster. Now featuring Meyer, Berrios, and Kennys Vargas, this is probably going to be better watching for Twins fans than the All-Star game.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/baseball/minors/2014/07/07/red-wings-alex-meyer-going-futures-game/12319205/

4. Miguel Sano has been cleared for light throwing by David Altcheck, the surgeon who performed TJ surgery on him. He'll be permitted to swing in a month, and there's been some more rumbling about him actually playing DH in the Arizona Fall League before joining his winter league team, Estrellas.

http://www.twincities.com/twins/ci_26104199/twins-top-prospect-miguel-sano-cleared-throw

5. Jose Berrios was promoted to AA New Britain. He is now the youngest player in that league by about a month and the youngest pitcher by over a year.

Speaking of Buxton, Sano, Berrios, and Meyer - all four (along with Kohl Stewart) were named to *both* BPro's and BA's mid-season top fifty prospects. Berrios was a noted climber on both lists, while Buxton retained his top slot on both lists.

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164. "Batting .333 on free agency so far - Hughes great, Nolasco/Pelf DL'd"
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There are two times of year that we typically turn to the idea of a Twins Way for pitching, in the summer when our Clone Army is getting shelled and in the winter when we pick up new recruits for the aforesaid army. I'm actually pretty pleased with the news that there is something physically wrong with Ricky Nolasco, because I wasn't ready to accept that he just sucked now. Battered around a little by a DH league, sure. but not out-and-out shitty like this. Pelfrey is... whatever. I really thought a 93mph sinker would work, but it didn't. And then he stopped throwing hard on top of that.

But Phil Hughes has been an absolute delight, and part of the reason is that he's fit into the Clone Army without actually sacrificing his ability to gain swings and misses. In fact, Hughes dropping the slider and going fastball/cut-fastball/change/curve has resulted in a (slight) uptick in strikeouts whilst more than halving his prior (already low) walk total. The other shoe to drop is homeruns, as Target Field is apparently playing a nice role in keeping his extreme flyball tendencies in check. But that's actually the only respect in which he's been lucky, as the Twins "defense" hasn't been doing him much favors - not surprising given the weird run of centerfielders (Chris Parmelee?) out there. Honestly, as long as he can approximate that extremely low walk rate, a bounceback in homers isn't going to be a huge deal.

In any case, there's a lot of stuff to ding Rick Anderson over. Like, a lot. But Phil Hughes has been an unmitigated success so far, and it's not because he's playing against the Twins type but because he's embraced it. Don't be afraid of contact early in the count with your fastball, then find a pitch (or two) that works for you to put hitters away. He's signed through 2016, and though he probably wont always be as good as he is right now, he could get some help if our prospect outfield ever really comes together.

Oh, and Kurt Suzuki. But this was about pitching.

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165. "Buxton busts out... is promptly hit on the wrist by a pitch"
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After some initial rust, Byron Buxton wreaked his horrible revenge on the FSL, including an extra inning game where he homered and reached base SIX total times.

But in that game, he was hit on his (right, so not the previously injured one) wrist and has missed the past two games. Can we just wrap him in bubble wrap and send him to Minneapolis?

Aaron Hicks is now back to switch hitting and has been doing it well. Berrios has been promoted to AA and had a nice start the other day. Both May and Meyer look to be available and ready for the Twins in August if there's an actual Kevin Correia-shaped hole in the rotation.

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166. "wait ... what? "
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>Aaron Hicks is now back to switch hitting and has been doing
>it well.

  

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167. "Doing it well in New Britain"
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>>Aaron Hicks is now back to switch hitting and has been
>doing
>>it well.

The sequence, off the top of my head:

-started with big club as switch hitter
-"lost confidence" in his left-handed hitting, decided to only hit right-handed
-(perhaps) wisely benched by Ron Gardenhire against all RHP on the assumption that learning how to hit same-side pitching at the MLB level was a bit dangerous
-injured, sent to rehab assignment at New Britain
-recovered, optioned to New Britain where he decided to return to switch hitting
-now hitting .282/.380/.427 with a shockingly acceptable-ish strikeout rate... as a switch hitter

Whatever. It'll shake out or it wont. I really wanted him to make it, and as we seem to be reminded every day with Carlos Gomez - most teams give up on outstanding tools too early instead of too soon. Our outfield defense has been positively atrocious this year, so it'd be kind of cool to see him make it alongside Buxton and give us that outfield full of flycatchers I kind of figured we'd have by now.

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169. "that's cool. "
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i was just confused because there was so much noise around his approach at the MLB level and, iirc, the move to stop switch hitting was his idea. hadn't realized he was injured. thought he was sent down to refine his approach from the right side. whatever ... if it works, it works. i'm with you ... more toolsy outfielders, please. we'll take them all.

  

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168. "Brian Dozier: trade or keep as foundational?"
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I wouldn't have dared to ask this question back when he was absurdly hot, but it's more compelling when he's not destroying the ball but still looks like a really appealing piece for both of the options in the title. For whatever reason, there's a decent trade market for 2B and Dozier might actually trump Zobrist as a trade chip once you account for contract.

To simplify the issue:

Is Brian Dozier part of the next good Twins team?

Does the possibility of a top-100ish prospect for Dozier change that dynamic?

The Cardinals, Nats, and Marlins are teams with good systems that could be buying.

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170. "is rosario as 2B not a thing anymore? "
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pretty sure he was moved back to the outfield, but wanted to be sure ... haven't heard much about him lately. pretty quiet after the suspension.

  

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171. "He's been playing all three OF positions and second base"
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>pretty sure he was moved back to the outfield, but wanted to
>be sure ... haven't heard much about him lately. pretty quiet
>after the suspension.

The bulk of his games have actually been in centerfield, though with Buxton (and Hicks) still in the organization then he probably doesn't have much future there. After that, his second most common position is second base, so he's still getting regular looks there.

I think the suspension kind of clarified (in an almost exaggerated way) the thing that scouts have been saying for awhile - the bat is what's going to make people find a position for him. He's not a good second baseman, but if he can go something like .280/.350/.450 there then all of a sudden he starts looking acceptable. He's been a bit rusty in his return, but he did hit a pair of homeruns in a game just a couple days ago. The only real problem at the moment is that it looks like he's trying to make up for time missed with power - and that's not showing his full offensive potential.

But while he was sitting out his suspension, Brian Dozier played like a borderline All-Star and Jorge Polanco's all-around game probably passed Rosario in the organization 2B depth chart.

For the moment, the Twins seem to have distilled their question about Rosario to one: Is it a MLB bat?

All of his present and past positions are still in play, it seems, pending a "yes" answer to that question.

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172. "Though, they're still playing Polanco at SS"
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Even though most people think he wont be a shortstop.

Ft. Myers has gotten extremely weird. Niko Goodrum got moved off of shortstop despite very little poor reports of his defense there, and it seems mostly due to the heretofore unrealized expectation that he'll outgrow the position. Okay, but the person he's been moved for is Jorge Polanco. While Polanco's well-rounded bat would be awesome in the MLB shortstop role, literally nobody thinks that Polanco will be a good defensive shorstop at that level. But most scouts DO seem to believe he'd be a pretty good second baseman. The problem is enough arm, and staying on the right side of the infield addresses that.

Throw in that if Sano can stick at third, Goodrum doesn't really have a home there, and this whole thing seems sort of shortsighted. The dumb thing is that there was a way to shake a lot of this stuff out at Ft. Myers, and it would have been by sending Polanco back to AA New Britain instead of Ft. Myers after his weird and awesomely successful MLB excursion.

Right now, the personnel for shortstop in New Britain is basically: a bunch of dudes. If we're going to pretend that Jorge Polanco may have a future at shortstop in MLB, then let him press that issue there. The organization obviously thought highly of his maturity when they promoted him straight from Ft. Myers to Minneapolis, and he's hit well in a rough environment in the FSL. So promote him. Meanwhile, that'll open up shortstop in Ft. Myers to two players who don't profile as MLB regulars but *do* have the potential for real MLB utility:

-Levi Michael as a glove-first utility guy who can get on base (Punto-ish)
-Niko Goodrum as a bat-first utility guy who can play some short (Brandan Harris-ish)

I realize neither of those comps is inspiring for a Twins fan, but both players obviously had more value than stalling at A/AA ball.

It's sort of frustrating because, in addition to having a bunch of high-end talent in it, our farm system is showing some depth and breadth that it's never had before. There are actual, young middle infielders who can be real contributors. When the hell was the last time that happened? And it's not entirely clear the team is optimizing both their opportunity for success and their path to the big club.

I do like what they're doing with the pitching depth though. I'm getting impatient for May and Meyer, but I don't think the team's solution to their development is wrong - just not as much fun as I'd like.

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173. "From my keyboard to Terry Ryan's ears... Polanco promoted"
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It'd be pretty cool if Buxton and Sano were both healthy and at their expected affiliate level. Then the New Britain lineup would feature:

Hicks, Buxton, Sano, Rosario, Polanco, Vargas, and Berrios

In any case, this is a deserved promotion for Polanco, who handled both the unexpected MLB time well *and* continued playing well, steadily on his return to Ft. Myers instead of suffering what would have been one of the most reasonable cases of MLB-hangover ever.

https://twitter.com/ZimMiracle/status/492329509933166593

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Before heading out on four-game trip to Tampa, Miracle have a few roster moves. Levi Michael comes over from GCL. Jorge Polanco to AA.

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174. "Morales to Seattle for Stephen Pryor"
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175. "Good signing, I guess?"
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They have an opportunity to get value out of that move after 2014. Pryor used to throw really, really hard and in his time with Seattle in 2014 has only thrown kinda hard.

Could be small sample (it's in 1.2 innings, soooooo) or the Mariners could have just seen something medically they didn't like.

In other news, that note above about Polanco being promoted to AA New Britain is now outdated. He's heading back to Minnesota. He's having a very weird year, but in a cool way.

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176. "You guys just about done with the non-prospect Rochester commute?"
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Yohan Pino, Kris Johnson, Logan Darnell. Congratulations on your debut (not for Johnson, but whatever) and consequent fulfillment of a lifelong MLB dream.

But their turn is up and it's time to show us what Trevor May and Alex Meyer look like in Twins' uniforms. May looked like he was on that soon-to-arrive trap until a calf injury kind of hobbled him. Meyer has been on a weird yoyo with respect to his alleged innings limit and lately seems to have been working without a net. I guess we'll find out whether that means they're preparing him for rotation time this year soon enough.

Meyer went six innings, five hits, no runs, no walks, eight strikeouts on the 23rd.

In other pitching prospect news, here are TD articles on JO Berrios and Lewis Thorpe:

1. http://twinsdaily.com/articles.html/_/minnesota-twins-news/gary-lucas-on-jo-berrios-r2914

2. http://twinsdaily.com/_/minnesota-twins-news/minnesota-twins-minor-leagues/lewis-thorpe-improving-r2913

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177. "Milone-for-Fuld"
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Milone isn't any great shakes, but he's still under team control through 2017, is left-handed, and can pull a decent season in a big park like Target Field.

There's an odd bit of fistpumpery in picking up Fuld as a waiver claim off of Oakland and then flipping him back for a usable LH starting pitcher as well. The bad news here is that he makes it less likely we'll see any substantial contribution from May/Meyer this year, but it's good that the team is recognizing the need to stockpile pitching.

The other slightly annoying trickledown is it seems like we'll keep seeing Danny Santana in centerfield. Santana is surpassing everything I expected from him with the bat and had a reputation in the minors as a good defensive shortstop. That's a find for the Twins but he needs to, you know, actually play there instead of centerfield where he is really pretty bad.

I don't expect that to shake out immediately, but it'd be nice to see Hicks get a promotion to Rochester as show that the Twins understand that the best outcome is to have Santana at short in 2015 and Hicks (then Buxton) in centerfield shortly thereafter. Hicks is playing well enough in New Britain to try and see if things continue well up the chain. His strikeout rate is the most controlled it's been in his whole pro career and he's swinging well from both sides of the plate.

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178. "Kennys Vargas called up/Suzuki signed/Milone assigned to ROCH"
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I think Milone has a real future as part of the (backend) next good Twins rotation, but for the moment it's nice that the A's had him stashed in Sacramento so the Twins get to make a slightly more interesting roster move than just slotting Milone in the pen until a spot opened up in the rotation.

Kennys Vargas could very well be the DH on the next Twins team. He's been getting David Ortiz comps, which are annoyingly optimistic but there's a big middle ground where he can be not nearly as good as Ortiz but still a really good player. He can wail from both sides of the plate, made big strides this year in plate discipline, and has some really serious pop.

Here's video. Moving pictures start at about 40 seconds.

http://m.mlb.com/min/video/topic/26271672/v34683793/twins-prospect-vargas-powerful-from-both-sides/?c_id=min

Also, Suzuki was extended for 2/12mm. I'm not a huge Suzuki fan, but I don't hate this deal until Josmil Pinto actually forces him off the spot. That's an expensive rate to pay for a backup if it does happen, but he'd still be tradeable as a starter for 6mm annually and he may even have some value after this year.

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179. "Free Daniel Santana (to his actual position)"
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Soooooooooooooooo, here's what I want. By the end of the season. In one game. I mean, more than one game would be great. But I just need to see it once.

1. Daniel Santana - SS
2. Joe Mauer - 1B
3. Kennys Vargas - DH
4. Josmil Pinto - RF
5. Brian Dozier - 2B
6. Jordan Schaefer - LF
7. Josmil Pinto - C
8. Trevor Plouffe - 3B
9. Aaron Hicks - CF

Sooooo, that's not an ideal 2015 lineup or anything. But it's got five players who are 25 and younger who profile as contributing MLB regulars *and* who have already debut'd. The 2014 Twins have been a fun team to watch and have looked competitive in a regular, sustained way (during individual games) that none of the prior three Twins clubs have. But it's time to start seeing who we can count on going forward and who we can't. And I like that we've actually engineered so many debuts this season and expect to add a few more in the pen/rotation.

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180. "that's a rough commute for pinto."
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and who and/or what is a jordan schaefer?

apparently, i need to sit down and watch a twins game.

  

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181. "Whoops. Yeah, I think that's probably a lot to ask of him"
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He gets to play just one position: catcher. Arcia can return to rightfield. He's done enough not to get replaced by a guy already playing somewhere.

>and who and/or what is a jordan schaefer?
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>apparently, i need to sit down and watch a twins game.

I also spelled it wrong. Schafer. He's a centerfielder the Twins picked up off of waivers from the Braves. Used to be a top-50 prospect and then... wasn't. Got popped for HGH* and then for marijuana position in Florida, which that state apparently doesn't fuck around with.

Anyhow, he's never been a particularly good MLBer, but he can play defense, buys time for Hicks to keep relearning how to be good at baseball, and there are worse scratch-offs than a former top prospect in his age-27 season.

The other shoe here is that Hicks needs to find his way to Rochester to see if he can keep pushing what is looking (at his present level) like a legitimate change in approach. His strikeout rate is his lowest as a pro, but he hasn't sacrificed walks much at all and is hitting for some actual power now. Importing two of those three skills (really, any two) to Rochester and then to Minneapolis is kind of the ticket for a career revival, particularly since he's doing it from both sides of the plate.

*I remember something was really weird about this story. But I can't bring anything up googling it except that he was apparently one of baseball's first non-analytic positives. The centerfielding equivalent of the guys who get busted at Tour de France carrying a bunch of fresh blood in their backpack of something. So, uh, yay for history?

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182. "was the scuttlebutt about hicks being unprofessional in his approach"
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at the plate in the majors true? i could probably scroll up to find more discussion on it, but it seems there was a come to joeses (eh? no? ok ...) moment before he was sent back down. we are now seeing the fruits of a bit more study and less winging it.

at least, that's my #hottake, and i'm sticking to it so i can impress my co-workers.

  

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183. "I mean... probably, but stuff like that is usually working backwards"
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>at the plate in the majors true? i could probably scroll up
>to find more discussion on it, but it seems there was a come
>to joeses (eh? no? ok ...) moment before he was sent back
>down. we are now seeing the fruits of a bit more study and
>less winging it.

If he were hitting like Vlad Guerrero in both approach and results, we'd say that he was a savant of unique and nigh-ascetic mental discipline who refused to let his mind become cluttered with speculation like "what pitch is this guy likely to throw me in this count?" or even "who the hell is this guy on the mound?"

The story about Hicks coming to the ballpark and literally not knowing who was pitching for the other team is pretty specific and therefore rather damning. Though I think the worse thing is realizing it's not okay to admit you don't know rather than faking it.

One of the things we've talked about a little bit with Hicks which maybe sheds some light here is an old Keith Law scouting report on him that seems prescient. He said of Hicks a few years ago that he'd never seen a player who possessed such good judgement of the strikezone along with such poor pitch recognition. While there's a lot in the latter category that you need to be born with, some elbow grease in pre-game prep would go a long way. Going in blind guessing against James Shields is probably a lot tougher than doing some homework and knowing what he likes to throw in which count.

Oh, and in this context, when it comes to being prepared and studying the game in order to put together quality at-bats, I think we can definitely accept "come to joeses."


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185. "we had this conversation mid-thread. lo siento. "
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186. "Yeah, you know how I feel about repetition on Twins' threads"
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That it's basically unavoidable and I rather like it as long as it gives me a chance to look smart.

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187. "Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd, Hicks promoted to AAA Rochester"
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Draw walks. Play every outfield position. If nothing else has been accomplished on the big club this season, they did show that there are two not-yet-old actually pretty good pitchers in the rotation: Phil Hughes and Kyle Gibson.

Backing those guys with Hicks and Buxton in the outfield by, say, July next season could be pretty nice.

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184. "Glen Perkins: SCIENCE!"
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Why don't you get your nose out of your laptop, get out of your mother's basement, and watch a game, two-time American League All-Star Glen Perkins.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/min/for-twins-closer-glen-perkins-baseball-really-is-a-numbers-game?ymd=20140804&content_id=87928284&vkey=news_min

For Perkins, baseball really is a numbers game
All-Star closer studies his own statistics, along with other Major League players
By Rhett Bollinger / MLB.com | 8/4/2014 1:35 P.M. ET

MINNEAPOLIS -- Glen Perkins is the resident stat guru in the Twins' clubhouse.

The left-handed closer embraces baseball's advanced statistics, and is a regular reader of sites such as Fangraphs.com and BrooksBaseball.net. He's on both sites nearly every day, checking Fangraphs.com for his favorite statistics to learn more about himself and other players, while checking the locations and effectiveness of his pitches at Brooksbaseball.com via Pitch/FX data available after all of his outings.

He's a big believer in the advanced metric Fielding Independent Pitching, or FIP, which focuses only on what the pitcher can control without the help of his teammates. It essentially calculates what a pitcher's ERA should look like based on strikeouts, walks and home runs allowed.

So Perkins knows that if he performs well in those three categories, he's doing his job and traditional statistics such as ERA will eventually fall in line with his FIP.

"Fielding independent pitching is the main stat I worry about," Perkins said. "I know I don't want to give up home runs, don't want to walk guys and I want to get strikeouts. So I know the process."

Perkins is well-aware it's a rarity for a player to be so into sabermetrics, but says that more and more players are interested in what's out there. Perkins, who has always maintained he'd be a math teacher if he wasn't a baseball player, now serves in that role to his teammates, as they'll come up to him and ask him about their own advanced statistics and what they mean.

"People ask me all the time about this guy or that guy and people ask me what their stuff means," Perkins said. "They like to know where they're at. My most frequently visited site is Fangraphs and I can't imagine it's the same for anyone else."

Perkins, 31, is having another solid season measured by traditional statistics, as he's posted a 2.72 ERA with 27 saves in 29 chances. He's also struck out 57, walked just eight and served up just two home runs 46 1/3 innings en route to being named an All-Star for a second straight year. But with the help of Perkins, here's a look at five of his favorite advanced statistics and how he stacks up this season:

Statistic: Fielding Independent Pitching (FIP)
Perkins in 2014: 1.83
Perkins in 2013: 2.49
Perkins for his career: 3.80

Perkins' take: "I know that I want to avoid home runs, strike guys out and not walk guys. If I can do that, and maybe even get a groundball, and even that it's that important to me as not walking a guy and those things. As long as I don't walk guys and don't give up home runs, I know I'm doing the right thing. It's the culmination of a lot of things, but I know if I can keep that down, my ERA is going to be there eventually."

Analysis: Perkins' 1.83 FIP is a career-best and better than his 2.49 mark last season. Perkins has struck out a career-high 11.07 batters per nine innings, while also setting career-bests with 1.55 walks per nine innings and just 0.39 home runs allowed per nine innings. But due to what can be described as some bad luck in other advanced metrics, Perkins' 2.72 ERA is his worst since 2010. The left-hander had a 2.30 ERA last season.

Statistic: Batting average on balls in play (BABIP)
Perkins in 2014: .336
Perkins in 2014: .271
Perkins for his career: .305

Perkins' take: "I know it's way up there this year. It's about 60 points higher than last year. I think I've given up as many hits as I did all of last year. But I don't think my batted ball profile has changed all that much. Balls are finding holes and falling into the outfield or whatever. But it all evens out."

Analysis: One of the key theories of defensive independent pitching statistics is that pitchers don't have control over the balls that drop in for hits. Perkins concedes pitchers can generally control whether they're groundball or flyball pitchers, but that it's out of their control whether balls hit are turned into outs. The league average for pitchers on balls hit into play is generally about .300, so Perkins is running into some tough luck this season after being helped by a .271 BABIP last season.

Statistic: Left on base percentage
Perkins in 2014: 69.7 percent
Perkins in 2013: 83.3 percent
Perkins for his career: 73.7 percent

Perkins' take: "I know it's lower and it's a reason why my ERA is higher, especially because I'm not really giving up home runs. I haven't done as good of a job stranding runners. But again, if I don't walk guys, I gotta give up a couple hits, so I think the biggest thing is not to give them baserunners. And I've done a good job of that this year."

Analysis: Also known as strand rate, the statistic takes a look at how often a pitcher leaves runners on base over the course of a season. The league average is generally 72 percent, so Perkins is slightly worse than that this season after getting some good fortune last year with a career-best 83.3 percent strand rate.

Statistic: Swinging strike percentage
Perkins in 2014: 12 percent
Perkins in 2013: 13.1 percent
Perkins for his career: 9 percent

Perkins' take: "I'll check in periodically to see what my swinging strike rate to make sure that the strikeouts I'm getting are sustainable. You obviously have to get swings and misses."

Analysis: It's a fairly simple statistic as it simply measures what percent of a time an opposing batter swings and misses at an offering. The league average is roughly 8.5 percent, so Perkins fares well at getting swings and misses, especially with his slider, but his rate is slightly down from last year.

Statistic: Line drive percentage
Perkins in 2014: 22.2 percent
Perkins in 2013: 26.2 percent
Perkins for his career: 20.2 percent

Perkins' take: "If my batted ball profile hasn't changed -- line drives fall in for hits the most often -- and I'm not giving up as many line drives as last year, I'm not concerned."

Analysis: Line drive percentage is part of a batted ball profile that also includes groundball percentage and flyball percentage. Perkins knows he can't control how many balls fall in for hits, but he can see how often batters are squaring up his pitches based on this statistic. He's actually giving up a lower percentage of line drives this year than last season, even though his batting average on balls in play is more than 60 points higher.

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188. "Vargas!"
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In my mind, I'm saying this like Kevin, the bizarro-Seinfeld, would mutter it about Vargas, the bizarro-Newman.

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189. "It's Trevor May-day! (tomorrow)"
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Not the prospect that Meyer is, but he's a different look for a 3-5 type for the Twins: somebody who'll miss some bats. I think there's a real chance for him to build on his improvements in control this year and fill out a rotation nicely next year.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/08/twins-calling-up-pitching-prospect-trevor-may/

Twins calling up pitching prospect Trevor May
Aaron Gleeman Aug 8, 2014, 11:50 AM EDT

For a while now Minnesotans have been wondering why the Twins havent called up 24-year-old pitching prospects Trevor May and Alex Meyer yet. Meyer remains at Triple-A, but Seth Stohs of Twins Daily reports that the Twins will call up May to debut tomorrow against the As.

May was acquired from the Phillies in the Ben Revere trade two offseasons ago and repeated Double-A last season before taking a big step forward at Triple-A this year. The hard-throwing right-hander has a 2.93 ERA and 91/37 K/BB ratio in 95 innings, getting his walk rate below 4.0 for the first time in his career.

May isnt considered an elite prospectMeyer is the higher-upside arm, long termbut hes a potential mid-rotation starter and keeping him in the minors to throw nearly 400 innings between Double-A and Triple-A seemed odd considering hes 45 days from turning 25 years old and the Twins rotation has been terrible for years.

He also gets a tough first assignment on the road against an As team that has the highest-scoring lineup in all of baseball, but for Twins fans itll sure beat watching more of Kris Johnson or Logan Darnell or whichever other non-prospects were options to make the start.

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190. "i cheered in my car when i heard this: kevin correia, los angeles dodger"
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surprisingly, los angeles was willing to send something in return with possible value. that's ... shocking.

http://minnesota.twins.mlb.com/news/article/min/minnesota-twins-trade-rhp-kevin-correia-to-los-angeles-dodgers?ymd=20140810&content_id=88877926&vkey=news_min

  

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191. "I thought it was a dream when I heard"
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It's funny, because he's been mostly not-terrible in his time with the Twins. But I just can't stand watching him because he symbolizes so thoroughly the descent into Clone Army madness. It wasn't enough to emphasize a no-walks approach, then we had to draft/develop guys who already profiled as strikezone pounders rather than try to graft that ability onto guys with power stuff, and finally - it was a more-than-one-year commitment to Kevin Correia, a guy with an incredible track record of producing fewer swings-and-misses than any starter in baseball.

He seems like a good guy and got traded to a good team. I hope it goes well. But I'll take literally anything of possible value back. And, honestly, that's gravy too.

Tommy Milone gets the callup. He's got a shot to be a rotation staple for a few years. Maybe Trevor May's second start is less of dumpster fire than his first one and all of a sudden, we're having a pretty nice week as Twins fans. Maybe.

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192. "Willingham traded to Royals for Jason Adam"
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Adam looks to be a low walk, high K rotation workhorse. I think that if everything shakes out the way we want with our higher end pitching prospects, he may not have a big window to find a job with the Twins. But he's pitched at AAA this year and, since he's part of an August trade, not yet on the 40-man. So a nice little pickup for Willingham.

It's kind of an odd thing that Terry Ryan has managed to retain: the ability to find nice little scratchoffs as added value in trades.

It also means the Twins have cornered the market on pitchers with common last names missing "S". Because Alex Meyer and Jason Adam.

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193. "Mauer return, Milone debut, Schafer runs, Buxton promoted"
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He hit the ball hard. This is good. He was heating up when he got injured the first time around, so if he can stay on the screws there might be something salvageable in this season.

Milone looked... crafty, I want to say. We'll have to hold our breath at putting him in a park which, while nice for pitchers, is no Oakland. And without their defense behind him either. But I think he'll be a nice look for our future rotation, and mixing in a lefty with those power righthanded arms (May, Meyer, Berrios, Stewart, etc.) could be a good thing.

Apparently Jordan Schafer is some kind of base-stealing savant. We went through this with Darin Mastroianni, but Schafer's lingering scent of top-prospect makes me hope there's something there - if only as a more useful 4th outfielder than Mastroianni.

And Byron Buxton got promoted. With all the stupid wrist things, this has been a lost season for him, though like Mauer, he was getting hot again before the last time he was hurt. I'm guessing the reasoning is that the team knew back in November that he was talented enough and polished enough to play in New Britain this season and so in the last month of 2014 we're left with him trying to get his timing back at a level we already knew he could handle *or* seeing a new level. Whether New Britain is the spot he gets going or it's just a matter of getting at-bats before 2015, I think this is the good move. There's nothing but upside since we can't really take anything bad from AA results.

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194. "I should add: there are two spots on the 40 man"
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If you want to get excited about a Buxton call-up, the recent trades and this promotion justify some mild optimism that a nice run in New Britain could see him find some time as a September call-up.

Alex Meyer too, could be added before the season ends.

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195. "Jesus fucking hell @ Byron Buxton's collision"
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Morning news reports make it sound like I can stop holding my breath about his short term health. Now, I'll start holding it about his longterm health. Then his career.

Holy crap.

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196. "Concussion, no other significant injuries according to the Pioneer Press"
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Lucky it wasn't anything worse. But this has to end his season, right?

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I mean, given how poorly this season started for Mauer after being medically cleared by everybody, it seems obvious we just need time for folks to come back from concussion. Buxton has absolutely not been able to buy a break this year (unless it's his skull or wrist, apparently) so just calling it and letting him get back to rehabbing, etc. to start next year fresh and healthy seems smart.

On the other hand, there are dozens and dozens of players who've bounced back fine after concussions. And we have the various diagnostic tools for a reason.

But yeah, I don't see the harm in just letting him regroup. I was hoping the AA stint could mean this wasn't a "lost season" but that ship has sailed. It's starting to look like those Eric Davis comparisons were even more prescient than they looked initially.

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199. "I'd rather he recover fully than get a week or two in AA ball"
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and risk getting hurt again.

He's going to be 21 when spring training starts. He could still get some time in AA (if not AAA) to start 2015 before getting called up.

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200. "Yeah, exactly"
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>He's going to be 21 when spring training starts. He could
>still get some time in AA (if not AAA) to start 2015 before
>getting called up.

Healthy Buxton moves fast. This seems like the most sensible plan.

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201. "so busy at work, didn't have time to come in here for hugs"
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ugh. what a fucking year. poor byron.

the only piece i wanted to add was a doc from tria ortho was on KFAN yesterday talking about concussions and losing consciousness. he was saying that losing consciousness after knocking your head was not clearly indicative of a concussion. he said if you maintain consciousness, you're more likely to have a concussion than if you had lost consciousness. it was interesting and left me hopeful that byron may be better than what the video suggests. plus, returning to the park before the game ended is a good thing, too. here's to hoping it ain't as bad as it looked.

because i can't take losing THEBUXTONASCENT. not yet.

  

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202. "Interesting"
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>he was saying that losing consciousness after
>knocking your head was not clearly indicative of a concussion.
>he said if you maintain consciousness, you're more likely to
>have a concussion than if you had lost consciousness. it was
>interesting and left me hopeful that byron may be better than
>what the video suggests. plus, returning to the park before
>the game ended is a good thing, too. here's to hoping it ain't
>as bad as it looked.

Yeah, I was ... really excited at the "returned to park" news. They're saying now that if he clears all of his hurdles then he could return either to New Britain or to AFL ball. I'm still with M21 that I'd really be happy if they packed him in bubblewrap and sent him home to Georgia to get ready for spring 2015 once his symptoms went away. But I'm also inclined to trust the experts.

>because i can't take losing THEBUXTONASCENT. not yet.

Nope. Me either. I am so excited for what he can become.

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198. "Mauer's last 95 plate appearances"
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It's a cherry-picked sample, but it dates to his lowest OPS of the season back on June 11th. Since then: .333/.389/.483

There's some un-Mauer-like tendencies in that short, hot sample - most notably the eight walks. But the strikeout rate is finally more in line with what we should expect of a contact-heavy guy like Mauer, and if he's been batting .333 during that period and not striking out then it seems wrong to kvetch about the walks from somebody who is, in Twins terms, historically patient.

But the cool thing, which maybe we can hope and dream on, is the power. That .150 isoP isn't anything too, too special, but it's on the high end for Mauer and it surpasses anything he's shown this season.

This post is brought to you by the oddity of Joe Mauer:

a)turning on a pitch
b)which was a fastball
c)from a lefty
d)and hitting it over the wall
e)in a park that's not really friendly to right-center

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204. "Right on cue, walks"
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Last 107 plate appearances: .323/.393/.500, 15% K, 10% BB

That's basically his 2013, if this kind of performance looks familiar. The real Joe Mauer is in there. Cross fingers that he's sticks around for the rest of the year.

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203. "Oswaldo Arcia: "We don't pay you for hits""
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In other news: I fucking love Oswaldo Arcia.

http://blogs.twincities.com/twins/2014/08/13/postgame-twinsights-dont-pay-hits-oswaldo-arcia-tells-kennys-vargas/

Postgame Twinsights: We dont pay you for hits, Oswaldo Arcia tells Kennys Vargas
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HOUSTON Funny moment at Kennys Vargas locker after this one in which the hulking rookie related a conversation with Twins right fielder Oswaldo Arcia.

They both see defensive shifts frequently, although mostly from the left side for the switch-hitting Vargas. Their response?

A couple times when they play like that, I try to hit the ball on third base, Vargas said. But they throw me inside, and its tough for me to hit the ball the other way. Arcia told me, Hey, dont worry about that. Just pull the ball and hit it over the fence. Dont try to get a hit. We dont pay you for hits. We pay you for RBIs and home runs.

Those two combined for three home runs on Saturday night in a 10-4 loss. Arcia went 0 for 4 Sunday, but Vargas had two more singles to lift his average back to .300 after 50 at-bats in the majors. His two-run single to left center drove in two key insurance runs in the eighth, but he made it clear he wont be bunting anytime soon against the shift.

I asked Vargas if he ever saw any shifts in the minors. Turns out the Portland Sea Dogs, Double-A affiliate of the Boston Red Sox, use the shift quite often in the Eastern League, where Vargas spent the first four months this season before his July 31 promotion.

When they shift and you hit it good the other way, Vargas said, they still shift on you but not too much because they know you can hit the other way too.

He also saw some shifting in the Puerto Rican Winter League, he said.

To this point, Vargas appears to be an all-fields hitter, but he also might want to follow Arcias advice and keep putting balls in the seats.

Thats a great way to beat the shift, too.

Fellow rookie Danny Santana lifted his batting average 11 points with a four-hit day Wednesday.

That put Santana at .331 through 61 games. Only Taffy Wright of the 1938 Washington Senators has ever posted a higher average (.350) in franchise history among rookies with at least 245 plate appearances.

Santana would trail only Houstons Jose Altuve (.338) if he had enough plate appearances to qualify for the AL batting title. As it stands, Santana leads all qualifying big-league rookies in average and on-base percentage (.369).

Hes the first Twins rookie with three games of four or more hits in his first 61 big-league games since Kirby Puckett 30 years ago.

Speed is a part of his game, Twins manager Ron Gardenhire said. He can bunt and slap the ball around. Hes put a lot of really nice swings out there. His first at-bat was a great at-bat (grounding sharply to first on the eighth pitch he saw). A couple of line drives. Dannys playing great baseball. Hes got a lot of confidence.

Unfortunately, it will be nearly impossible for the switch-hitter to reach the 502 plate appearances necessary for batting-title qualification by seasons end.

Through 61 games, Santana has 253 plate appearances, an average of 4.15 per game played. He would need to play all 43 remaining games and average 5.8 plate appearances in order to qualify, which simply isnt going to happen unless the Twins play an inordinate number of 15-inning games.

If hitters fall short of the magical 502 mark 3.1 plate appearances for every scheduled team game its possible to make up the difference by assigning an out for however many trips the player would need. A solid cushion in the batting race would be needed, however, for that to matter.

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205. "#NOLASCOOUT"
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5.96 ERA
17 HRs given up in 20 starts
opponents splits - .327/.365/.538
HIGHEST PAID FA SIGNING IN TEAM HISTORY

or am i overreacting?

  

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206. "Definitely not over-recting"
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>5.96 ERA
>17 HRs given up in 20 starts
>opponents splits - .327/.365/.538
>HIGHEST PAID FA SIGNING IN TEAM HISTORY
>
>or am i overreacting?

I think that the success of the Phil Hughes signing has taken a fair amount of heat off the thus-far Nolasco disaster (sighhhh... or fiasco) because the two signings were basically paired.

xFIP says that Nolasco should be a fair amount better based on:

-okay K-rate
-good walk rate
-slightly elevated HR-rate
-absolutely miserable strand rate
-.360 average on balls in play

The assumption being made is that luck is known as the primary factor in these last three categories but watching Nolasco... ehhhh. Nolasco has rather famously under-performed his component stats for most of his career so it may be time to assume that he's never somebody whose run prevention will reflect his raw-est stats like walks and strikeouts.

The thing that sticks out at me in the stuff you posted was that opponents batting line. You can see he's just getting tagged relentlessly, and the isoP of .200? Nuts.

I don't know. I think putting a better defensive outfield out there would definitely help. Maybe he can rebound into a usable backend guy with that support?

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207. "two things to add"
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and they aren't huge, but may help dull the blade from razor sharp to struggles slightly to cut tomatos or something ... because i agree with what you put together.

1. first season in the big, bad american league. we've seen it before with VANIMAL and others where moving from the comfy, kid-glove, "i get to strike out a pitcher once every nine batters" NL to the "NOPE! DH BITCH!" AL tends to exacerbate a pitcher's weaknesses.

2. the injury. both of these are flimsy rebuttals, but this one seems limp flimsy rather than just flimsy flimsy ... ya know, because he hasn't had a month where opponents batted under .300 against him ... or where their slugging wasn't over .500. so, i'm not sure where i'm going other than allowing for my optimistic/hopeful side to say, "maybe it was the injury?" with an exaggerated shrug to go along with it.

  

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208. "Yeah, Nolasco's environment switch is definitely big"
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>1. first season in the big, bad american league. we've seen it
>before with VANIMAL and others where moving from the comfy,
>kid-glove, "i get to strike out a pitcher once every nine
>batters" NL to the "NOPE! DH BITCH!" AL tends to exacerbate a
>pitcher's weaknesses.

That's pretty much exactly the extra strikeouts he's missing in his otherwise largely-unchanged game. I was surprised if Target Field was actually tougher to hit in than the new Marlins park, but in spite of already having cracked my second beer I bothered to look it up. So he did make a positive move in terms of home field.

But as long as I'm pairing him with Hughes, it's worth noting that Hughes has moved easier and easier as far as competition and park. And it's been a good look for him.

The tough part of this is that it's not like he's going to stop facing the DH anytime soon. Though maybe something of a rebound season in 2015 can either make him more projectible as a useful backend innings eater or a trade candidate for us. I think, at the very least, some real defense behind him in the outfield could get him back there.

>2. the injury. both of these are flimsy rebuttals, but this
>one seems limp flimsy rather than just flimsy flimsy ... ya
>know, because he hasn't had a month where opponents batted
>under .300 against him ... or where their slugging wasn't over
>.500. so, i'm not sure where i'm going other than allowing for
>my optimistic/hopeful side to say, "maybe it was the injury?"
>with an exaggerated shrug to go along with it.

You know, that DL move smelled a lot like "you've been diagnosed with suck" that every team does once and awhile. Except that he spent longer out of action than I expected while the Twins ran through a few guys that honestly didn't really project to be any better than 2014 Ricky Nolasco. If they wanted to give Trevor May or Alex Meyer a try while he was out, then I'd be even more certain the injury was bullshit. But Logan Darnell and Kris Johnson? That says he might actually be hurt. Which... good?

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209. "This 6th inning against Detroit, though"
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NINE RUNS, 45 minutes long.

Detroit just imploded.

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210. "Double Dimes"
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Arcia just hit a Thome-esque shot off the flagpole, and Plouffe followed that with a homer to the opposite field. I should note Andrew Romine is pitching for the Tigers (and looking better than Adam Dunn did when he pitched.)

I'm going to listen to Philadelphia Freeway, because this is basically 2003 again.

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211. "I can't stop watching that Arcia homerun"
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I remember a few years ago that Keith Law tweeted something to the effect of "Oswaldo Arcia's hands are so fast I can hear them from the pressbox" and that's particularly clear when a position player comes in and starts throwing 85mph "fastballs."

He's hitting .281/.333/.688 in August. Which is... an unusual kind of hot because it's not batting average driven. Sure, he's had a few more couple more hits than usual fall in, but mostly he's just crushed everything he's put in play.

Here's an article the pretty-great Parker Hageman wrote about it:

http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/blogs/272311921.html

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212. "Fun with Nick Burdi's minor league stats"
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On the season:

18 IP, 35 K, 12 H, 6 ER, 9 BB.

Drop his first appearance as a pro, where, uh, nerves or something made him walk four batters (who all scored) without recording an out.

18 IP, 35 K, 12 H, 2 ER, 5 BB.

I don't think he's being tested.

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213. "18k/9 is fun to think about for a moment"
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like playstation numbers there.

  

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214. "If the organization had a personality transplant..."
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...I'd love for him to join Alex Meyer as a September call-up out of the bullpen. Just for some experience against MLB hitters.

We've got four people in the organization who've scraped 100mph right now, which as far as I know is four more than they've had, like, ever. I think Meyer's hit it before. Ditto Paulson and Cederoth, who are both at Elizabethtown.

And Burdi's fastball has hit 103mph and pretty much sits around 98-99.

Anyhow. That would make a fun September. As it is, I wouldn't be shocked if he's one of the exception candidates to go to the AFL as somebody who hasn't pitched above high-A yet. He clearly doesn't belong in the Florida State League. That just doesn't seem fair.

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215. "Nice start from Nolasco wasted, Buxton, return of Sano"
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1. Right on cue, Nolasco looked really strong last night. His curveball has been really inconsistent this year, but even watching him pitch well last night it's sort of seemed like he doesn't have anything to really toy with the top of the zone to off-set it. I know the Twins like to hammer the lower part with fastballs, but Hughes has had a lot of success running the occasional high fastball by hitters. It risks homers, but Nolasco is giving those up anyhow.

He threw one pitch (I want to say in the 7th, to Dyson) that looked like a split/change thing but it came in at about 90 mph. I have no idea if that was just a fastball that was peculiar in movement in location or another pitch, but if it's the latter... more of those please.

2. So, apparently Buxton's mending has been successful (so far) so excluding any setbacks, he's set to play in the Arizona Fall League this October/November. I agreed above with M21 about giving him the rest of the season off, but I think at a certain point we need to throw up our hands and acknowledge our lack of information. On the other hand, we're ceding that decision to the Twins medical staff, sooooooooo.... I hope he's okay. He does need some at-bats, so there's an upside here. But still.

3. Here is Miguel Sano taking batting practice:

http://vimeo.com/104404261

Nothing particularly noteworthy occurred. But it made me happy. You'll also note that he is not fat. Just a huge human being. Trevor Plouffe's actually had himself a nice little season, it'd be cool if he could keep that up into spring of 2015 and become a tradeable asset in time for Sano's (permanent, hopefully) promotion.

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216. "Great news on points 2 and 3"
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And it had to be Ricky Nolasco's one good start of the last few months.

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217. "More Arizona Fall League stuff: Burdi, remember Levi Michael, etc."
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This article seems to be saying that the Twins will send an additional pitcher to the AFL, but they haven't yet figured out who. Nick Burdi was on the roster yesterday, but was dropped this morning when I looked at it. He'd be a fun choice, but his innings workload (around 60, all told) between his NCAA season and his pro debut is more or less where you'd want a reliever to be so maybe they'll hold him back.

Melotakis was a hard-throwing left-handed college reliever the Twins drafted in hopes of converting to starting. He wasn't bad at it, just kind of "meh" in a way that a 95+mph fastball and plus slider from a lefty (when he's working out of the pen) aren't at all "meh" so they decided to choose sexy and make him a reliever again.

Taylor Rodgers is a human being. I confuse him with a bunch of other random Twins' handed starters in the minors like Matt Summers and Tyler Duffy and Jason Wheeler. Wheeler is the one who actually throws hard and Rodgers is the left-handed one. Whatever.

Jason Adam is the guy we got for Josh Willingham.

So there will be a fourth. Maybe. And it might be Nick Burdi. Or not.

Also, apparently Levi Michael needs to be added to the 40-man or exposed to Rule 5 draft. I think he's medium-risk to be picked, probably lower considering he doesn't really play shortstop anymore. That's not necessarily the sort of player the Twins really need to bend over backwards to keep on the roster (particularly with Dozier, Polanco, and Eddie Rosario still existing) but there's something that burns me about wasted first-round picks and Michael has actually played really well in AA New Britain since his promotion three weeks ago: .340/.444/.358.

If he can play *some* short, there's a valuable walks-first utility player in there. We had one of those once, and as long as he didn't take an undeserved starting job, he was pretty useful. His name rhymed with Nick Punto.

http://blogs.twincities.com/twins/2014/08/26/twinsights-byron-buxton-heads-twins-contingent-arizona-fall-league/

Twinsights: Byron Buxton heads Twins contingent for Arizona Fall League
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A trio of Twins prospects will return to the Arizona Fall League for a second straight season.

Center fielder Byron Buxton, 20, heads the list despite still recovering from an Aug. 13 outfield collision at Double-A New Britain that left him with post-concussion symptoms. Buxton, who is still dealing with headaches but otherwise improving, is expected to return to action during fall instructional league in Fort Myers, Fla.

Baseball’s top-rated overall prospect was limited to 124 at-bats this season after injuring his left wrist while diving for a ball at spring training in mid-March.

“That will be good that he goes down there and gets back into baseball,” Twins manager Ron Gardenhire said. “Get that out of the way: first time back on the field.”

Also headed back are outfielder/first baseman Max Kepler and outfielder/second baseman Eddie Rosario. Kepler, 21, spent the year with Class A Fort Myers and has surged of late (.849 on-base/slugging percentage in August) after a slow start.

Rosario, who missed the first two months following a 50-game suspension triggered by a drug of abuse, has spent the bulk of his year at New Britain. His production has been disappointing, but the Twins hope another stint in Arizona followed by his annual turn in the Puerto Rican Winter League will put him in a position to compete for a big-league spot in 2015.

Those three all rank among the Twins’ top dozen prospects, as ranked by Baseball America.

In addition, the Twins are sending four pitchers to the Salt River Rafters: recently acquired right-hander Jason Adam and Double-A left-handers Taylor Rogers and Mason Melotakis.

Rogers, 23, has gone 10-6 with a 3.42 earned run average in 23 starts for the Rock Cats. His 137 innings through Monday’s start rank fourth among all Twins farmhands, but it’s possible he will work out of the bullpen in Arizona, as right-hander Trevor May did last year after throwing 150 innings at Double-A.

Melotakis, who missed more than two weeks with a minor elbow issue in early August, has worked almost exclusively in relief this season for Class A Fort Myers and New Britain. A second-round pick in 2012, he has thrown a combined 62 innings with 9.05 strikeouts per nine innings.

Adam, acquired from Kansas City in the Josh Willingham trade on Aug. 11, has thrown a combined 121 innings for the Royals and Twins systems at the top two minor-league levels. The Twins want to stretch him back out as a starter, which could be his primary role in Arizona.

The final pitching slot for the Twins remains to be announced despite the fact Nick Burdi’s name briefly appeared on the AFL’s official web site Tuesday afternoon. According to a person with direct knowledge, the Twins “changed their mind” about sending the hard-throwing second rounder to Arizona just months after he pitched in the College World Series.

Burdi is healthy, the source insisted, and his five scoreless outings at Class A Fort Myers since an Aug. 11 promotion support that claim.

Among those position players passed over: Fort Myers right fielder Adam Brett Walker II, who leads the organization with 25 homers; Double-A second baseman Levi Michael, who must be added to the 40-man roster this winter or exposed to the Rule 5 draft; Fort Myers infielder Niko Goodrum and catching prospects Stuart Turner and Mitch Garver.

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218. "I haven't done a lot of post-rating, but this seems like a weird one"
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There's basically three of us in it, with the occasional visitor. While I agree that it doesn't really meet up to the standards for both information and enthusiasm of prior Twins' season posts, I rather like that a kind of seasonal congruence develops between the team and the 20XX Twins season post. Boring 2014 team? Boring 2014 post.

In any case, it's nothing more or less than it purports to be. So trying to rate it is like answering the question "how do you feel about the color of that sidewalk?"

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219. "What's a Jordan Schafer?"
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This is the part where, if I'm genuinely excited about a player, I dig way deep into his backstory and come up with all sorts of reasons why you guys should be genuinely excited about him. But Jordan Schafer isn't the guy. In fact, he's part of a long line of distinctly-undeserving-of-the-definite-article "just a guy(s)" the Twins have been trotting out for defense and ... whatever in the outfield the last couple years. He's Darin Mastroianni and Sam Fuld and Wilkin Ramirez. Truthfully, those guys don't even profile as 4th outfielders on a contender (though I suppose that's actually what Fuld is right now) let alone starters on a team that aspires to not suck in the near future.

But they get jobs because they can do a couple things:

1)catch the ball - the Twins tried to go with upside in FA (Hughes in Nolascso) and in prospects (Meyer and May) but with the exception of Meyer all those guys expect to come with higher-than-average flyball rates. Balls are going to go over the fence, but we'll take the strikeouts in exchange for the odd gopherball. What we can bear, then, are the doubles. Somebody's got to run those down and all of those guys will do it.

2)not make a ton of money - because... duh. waiver claims and MiLB free agents all, there's nothing lost monetarily or in terms of future commitment

3)not block real prospects - yes, Aaron Hicks is still a real prospect.

4)maybe, hopefully offer some offensive utility - for the most part, this has been baserunning. Mastroianni had a good reputation, and Schafer's been exceptional at swiping a bag.

For a rebuilding team, this is a normal set of fill-ins and replacements, but as things are starting to come together (Hughes is a free agent hit, Dozier is looking like a real player, Plouffe is establishing some potential trade value, Arcia/Vargas have shown moments of getting it, bullpen has been strong, Mauer has come back to life somewhat, etc.) leftfield has actually started to look a little bit like a potential weak spot. In my perfect world, Hicks finds an MLB stroke and Arcia moves over to left with Hicks' strong arm in right and Buxton in center - but we're basically counting on three prospect "hits" there, which isn't really the way things work.

There are options here. The team seems to (slowly and not definitively) souring on the Rosario-as-second-baseman experiment. I'd be annoyed at that, except the emergence of Dozier with the big club and Polanco on the farm (plus the first signs of life in Levi Michael's pro career) mean we're not lacking in depth there. But he was a plus defensive corner outfielder before he was a rough secondbaseman, and so maybe he can do that again if the bat plays. Adam Brett Walker III's contact issues need to be sorted out, but we know he can play defense and hit the ball over the wall at a pretty extraordinary rate. Shit, there's a non-zero chance that Sano or Mauer spend time out there.

But in the meantime, Schafer stands out amongst the "a guy" crowd for the very, very slight possibility that he could become "the guy." The reason isn't anything in his recent performance, which has been bad outside his stint with Minnesota - but in his pedigree. It seems silly, because prospects bust far more often than they hit, but Schafer ranked as high as #25 by Baseball America in a Braves system that probably ranks just behind the Cardinals in turning quality MiLBers into quality MLBers.

At age 21, he ranked first on a Braves list that included Jason Heyward:

"Background: Schafer may have made more progress than anyone in the minor leagues in 2007. After struggling to hit his weight for much of the 2006 season at low Class A Rome, he made adjustments and improvements to lead the minors with 176 hits last year. He also ranked third in the minors with 49 doubles, tied for sixth with 74 extra-base hits and missed nary a beat following his early May promotion to high Class A Myrtle Beach. Schafer first attracted attention when Baseball America rated him the nation's top 13-year-old in 2000, when he started at first base for his high school team as a seventh-grader. He drew some interest as a pitcher, but the Braves wanted to put his solid tools across the board to use in the outfield when they drafted him 107th overall in 2005. After signing for $320,000, Schafer struggled with the bat in his first 1 1/2 pro seasons. He was hitting just .214 at the end of June 2007, but started to find his groove during the last two months, when he raised his batting average 26 points and hit six of his eight home runs. A baseball rat, he focused nearly every waking moment on his game in the offseason and reaped the rewards in 2007. He batted a combined .312/.374/.513 and was rated the top prospect in the high Class A Carolina League and the sixth-best prospect in the low Class A South Atlantic League.

Strengths: Schafer has a line-drive stroke from the left side of the plate and the ability to drive and loft the ball. He took off in 2007 after improving his pitch recognition as well as his understanding of what pitchers are trying to do against him. Though projected to be a leadoff hitter, he has the ability to hit anywhere in the top third in the batting order. Schafer's defensive wizardry has been evident since he signed with Atlanta. He has advanced instincts in center field with immediate recognition of the ball off the bat, a lightning-quick first step and impeccable routes. Schafer has a plus-plus arm as an outfielder. He has solid speed and should be at least a 20-20 man in his major league prime."

What happened was that the strides in pitch recognition and the power both evaporated. He turned into an all-or-nothing hitter without the genuine pop for anything resembling a lot of "all."

In the very, very small sample with the Twins, though, he's looked like somebody comfortable in his own hitting profile. He's walked as much as he's struck out and has shown a nice, short linedrive stroke that lets him use his speed on the bases. And I think his defense is legitimately degrees better than the pretty-good Fuld and Mastroianni.

If there's an organization that's equipped for the premise "bet on tools" it's the Twins, and with Schafer playing well then there continues to be hope that the bet can pay off. The nice thing is that there's almost nothing he can do between now and the end of the year that'll make him expensive - so bringing him back at the same low cost of the bet this year should be simple. I guess where I'm going with this is that there may be an OBA-and-defense starting leftfielder in Schafer in 2015. But if there's isn't? Meh.

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220. "Twins break two year streak of pitching starts without ten strikeouts......"
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That's something for progress against the Brad Radke clone army, isn't it? Phil Hughes broke the streak that dated back to a July 2012 start by Francisco Liriano on Saturday and then Trevor May did it yesterday.

If you asked me, I would have said that Hughes had already done it this year but apparently not. He's been a great bright spot this year, and I doubt the Twins have ever had an external free agent throw up a 6 WAR (he's at 5.6 so far) season in his first go-round with the club. He also needs 16 innings to ping the 210 mark that will get him a 500,000 bonus that's in his contract. It sounds like all the rainouts mean he'll only get two more starts, but I'm rooting for him to get that money.

And yesterday, May finally showed what it looks like when he can locate two pitches at the same time. His changeup was the pitch that apparently made real strides this year and helped him put together such a solid AAA season, but (combined with terrible fastball command) it's really let him down up with the big club. I'm going to guess it's that synthesis that will really make or break his career - putting a mid-90s fastball where he wants will solve a lot of problems and having a average-to-plus changeup makes each pitch play up. But yesterday was all about the curveball. He managed to spot it where it'd get swings *and* minimize damage in case of contact, diving out of the zone, and White Sox hitters were definitely biting.

He'll be an odd one. Watching him, I definitely agree that the upside isn't really there - but he's such a different "doesn't have upside" than the Twins have had. The best comparison is maybe Boof Bonser, where a lack of consistency and severe flyball tendencies means you can't ever hang a 1/2 starter upside on him because there will *always* be a handful of starts where he gets destroyed. But he throws hard and can get swings-and-misses with a few different pitches, and having somebody like that at the back of a rotation is something different than, say, Nick Blackburn.

I guess we'll see. You can also imagine his whole schtick playing well in the bullpen, but durability isn't something to shrug off when so many pitchers are going down with injuries. He had a calf injury that will (maybe) keep him from pinging 150 innings this year, but that's not an arm injury and if it weren't for that stroke of bad luck, he'd probably be sitting around 175 by the end of the season. That's not a small number for a young pitcher.

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221. "Curveball at :46 - more, please"
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Looks like fastballs and curves for every strike three except for the last, a decent-ish changeup that he didn't seem to go to much yesterday. I like all of the high, tailing fastballs against lefties too. That's straight from the Phil Hughes playbook but there's nothing unusual about it except that we haven't had a lot of pitchers with the velocity to try that often.

http://m.twins.mlb.com/min/video/v36262553/mincws-may-strikes-out-10-sox-in-quality-start/?partnerId=as_mlb_20140915_31607246

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222. "Twins looking for new AA affiliate?"
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No link. The answer is yes. There's a two-week period after the expiration of their PDC with New Britain that will permit them to explore new options for a AA affiliate.

There's no good news for people who live in and around Minnesota. An affiliate isn't getting any closer. This is probably bad news for me because I've gotten to see the Rock Cats a couple times over the last couple years when they've come to Bowie, MD. But the other potential open affiliates are:

-Mobile (Southern League)
-Chattanooga (Southern League)
-Tulsa (Texas League)

I guess Chattanooga has a cool hat. Past that? A jump to one of these affiliates is likely to mean more offense from the AA affiliate, which will be nice for the re-appearance of Buxton and maybe Sano.

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226. "It's Chattanooga"
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I got nothing. Byron Buxton will probably like that. It's like right on the border with Georgia.

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223. "Nolasco figuring it out?"
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Or is it just ball-in-play luck starting to turn his way after a season of getting hammered. As we sorted through the numbers last time, the thing that struck us wasn't just a lot of balls landing for hits - though that was kind of remarkable. It was the balls getting hit on the screws. So we need to hold our breath on the idea that he just needs defenders to get their gloves on some of these, as much as it pains me to admit that.

But he's had three straight solid starts, two of them against playoff-calibre teams and one against Cleveland, who doesn't appear to be just playing out the stretch. I don't usually like breaking things out that way, but you've got to be careful about identifying small-sample September trends because that's a month with a lot of big leaguers who don't really belong.

Whatever. I'm not sure the guy we paid for is in there, but it was a substantial sum of money to pay for a disaster so I'll be really happy if he's not that. Because we can't:

a)afford to cough up three more years of a big check to a value-suck
b)afford to decide that real free agents aren't worth the trouble

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please, god, b.

and, didn't correia have a similar september "turnaround" last year as well? i certainly hope nolasco is figuring something out for 2015. sheesh.

  

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225. "Good memory"
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He had a 3.48 ERA last September, which is positively un-Correian. Hopefully - like, really hopefully - we can draw a distinction where Nolasco's bad luck is turning a bit around where last September Correia got some really nice final results while actually getting kind of tuned up by hitters. The ERA looked swell, but he struck out a shockingly small amount even by his own meager standards (13 in 33 innings) and surrendered an OPS that was 17% above league average.

But somehow not very many of those guys crossed the plate. Maybe they were tired from running around the bases against Correia for the entire first five months of the year? Because, incredibly, he had three months that were worse than that, including a May where the league hit a Bonds-ian .351/.387/.631. Which is kind of incredible.

So, yeah. We've seen September bouncebacks before. And that's a good reason to dig into the numbers a bit. It's why I'm trying to gut my adjectives a bit with Nolasco. It's not like he's been excellent. But he's been... let's go with "completely serviceable against solid competition."

Hughes has been great this year. And Gibson's been pretty good too. I'd like to imagine a universe where we can break camp with Meyer and May installed in an MLB rotation and joined by Hughes, Gibson, and Nolasco. If Nolasco can apply those adjectives to the END of a rotation instead of the beginning, we're not bad off.

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227. "fourth straight 90 loss season. "
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how do we celebrate this? i'm having trouble coming up with something inherently minnesotan and on the other end of the spectrum from champagne ... nordeast? premium? what bottles should we pop?

also, nolasco nolasco'd the hell out of that game last night.

  

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228. "I enjoyed his post-game revelation that it's been a bad year"
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Maybe he'll take a job at Fangraphs and stop pitching for the Twins.

>how do we celebrate this? i'm having trouble coming up with
>something inherently minnesotan and on the other end of the
>spectrum from champagne ... nordeast? premium? what bottles
>should we pop?

I suppose Surly's collection of beer adjectives are all a little bit too strong for the occasion. Plus, you don't really pop cans exactly.

I like Nordeast's branding. I don't even think it existed when I lived there, and yet I feel like I miss drinking it. Celebrating a fourth straight 90 win season with an appeal to some fictional golden age sounds about right to me.

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229. "In order to destroy the clone army, Phil Hughes had to join it"
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He is simultaneously the supreme Twin and the anti-Twin. This is the Brad Radkepocalypse.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/96177078/phil-hughes-sets-strikeout-to-walk-record-in-twins-final-home-victory

Hughes sets K/BB record in Twins' final home victory
Two early runs enough for Minnesota as righty makes history

By Rhett Bollinger / MLB.com | September 24, 2014 + 572 COMMENTS
MINNEAPOLIS -- A one-hour, six-minute rain delay in the middle of the eighth inning kept Phil Hughes just one out away from a $500,000 bonus for reaching 210 innings on the year, but it didn't stop him from making history.

Hughes ended his season on a high note and set Major League Baseball's single-season strikeout-to-walk ratio in the process, as he tossed eight strong innings to lead the Twins to a 2-1 win over the D-backs on Wednesday afternoon in the last home game of the year at Target Field.

Hughes gave up just one run on five hits, while striking out five without issuing a walk to finish the year 16-10 with a 3.52 ERA. He also struck out 186 batters and walked just 16 on the season for an 11.63 strikeout-to-walk ratio to break Bret Saberhagen's record of 11.00 strikeouts per walk, set in 1994. Hughes didn't walk a batter in 19 of his 32 starts, and he walked more than one in just two outings to become the first player in the modern era (since 1901) to throw at least 200 innings and walk 16 or fewer batters.

"It's something I certainly thought about," said Hughes, who knew he had a chance to break the strikeout-to-walk record four starts ago. "I've always taken a lot of pride in not walking guys and throwing strikes. So finishing that out today is a pretty cool way to do it. It's something I'm very proud of. You look at those names and it's a pretty elite group."

But Hughes also was just one out away from a $500,000 bonus as a result of the rain delay, as he finished the year with 209 2/3 innings to fall just short of his 210-innings goal. Hughes said he hasn't yet heard from the front office whether it will still reward him because it was caused due to the rain delay in the eighth inning.

Twins manager Ron Gardenhire said Hughes would've gone back out for the ninth if not for the delay, as he was only at 96 pitches. He also added that Hughes won't pitch in relief this weekend against the Tigers to reach 210 innings. But Hughes said he was still more than happy with the way his season ended, even if he doesn't get the bonus.

"I was very aware of it, but some things aren't meant to be," Hughes said. "I'm very proud of my season regardless of that."
Hughes has been Minnesota's best starter throughout the season, and it was again the case against the D-backs. It didn't come as a surprise to Gardenhire, who said he was in awe of Hughes breaking the strikeout-to-walk record.

"A lot of things are amazing with what he's done, and that's probably the most unique," Gardenhire said. "That's unbelievable. You just don't see things like that."

The D-backs scored their lone run against him in the sixth, when A.J. Pollock and Jake Lamb both singled to open the inning. Both runners advanced on a double steal that also led to Trevor Plouffe sustaining a season-ending fractured left forearm on Pollock's slide into third.

David Peralta brought home the run for Arizona with a sacrifice fly to left field. But Hughes got out of the jam by striking out Jordan Pacheco to end the inning.

The offense did just enough to back Hughes despite putting D-backs left-hander Vidal Nuno on the ropes early, as they loaded the bases in both the first and second innings, but only came away with one run each frame.

The Twins opened the scoring with a bases-loaded walk from Kurt Suzuki with one out in the first, but they couldn't score after that. Oswaldo Arcia popped out and Josmil Pinto struck out to end the potential rally.

It was more of the same in the second, as Minnesota loaded the bases with one out and scored on a sacrifice fly from Plouffe to center field, but couldn't add on as Kennys Vargas struck out to end the inning.

But it was just enough for Hughes, who helped the Twins to the series win over the D-backs. Minnesota also finished the year with a 35-46 record at home by winning the Target Field finale.
"It's good and gives us something the fans wanted to see on the last day, but at the same time, it wasn't the year we all wanted," second baseman Brian Dozier said. "Whether we won the last one or not, we didn't win enough, and that's what it boils down to."
Rhett Bollinger is a reporter for MLB.com. Read his blog, Bollinger Beat, and follow him on Twitter @RhettBollinger. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

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230. "Byron Buxton cleared for *all* baseball activities"
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He's in Ft. Myers, getting ready for the Arizona Fall League. Look, given the Twins' awful failures in this and other medical matters the past few years, I'd be pretty thrilled if he just stayed home with the objective of being in great shape for February. But sometimes I think we've got to give up that we don't have all of the information and, further, that sometimes that information could maybe possibly perhaps be good?

If he can get a bunch of productive plate appearances against solid AA to MLB-adjacent pitching this fall, that's a great outcome as far as restoring him to the fast track. If he can get a bunch of non-productive plate appearances against that same level of pitching, that could still be a useful way to spend six weeks or so if it can shake off the cobwebs before next spring.

So we'll see.

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231. "It's been real, it's been nice, but lately it hasn't been REAL NICE....b..."
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In all honesty. Is he the biggest problem?


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234. "*and entire coaching staff"
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Apparently, the possibility of individual coaches returning will be up to whoever the new manager is. That's sensible, but interesting since the now-released bunch includes former Twins like Brunansky, Molitor, and Steinbach who were generally considered to be doing pretty good work.

Because it's the Twins, internal candidates have to be considered front-runners:

-Molitor was offered the job when Gardenhire was back in 2002
-Steinbach is in a position (bench coach) that is frequently in line for managing promotions

-Doug Mientkiewicz has run insanely successful Ft. Myers Miracle teams the last two years - featuring up and coming Twins' prospects
-Gene Glynn has managed to win in Rochester which... yeah
-Jake Mauer is probably too young but is now like a successful five year veteran

I'm not really that interested yet in the outside-the-organization candidates. Though if they exist, that's good news. There's potential coming through the farm but it's important for the people in charge to acknowledge there are good answers that aren't already employed by the team that's lost 90+ games for four consecutive seasons.

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235. "He did a good job, but if there were ever a time to flail around for new..."
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I'm rather interested in the content of new ideas, but I'm fine conceding the utility of them. Gardenhire was a strong manager. He ran a bullpen well both in terms of long-term and short-term strategy. He got the most out of a great deal of his players. He was an entirely adequate in-game tactician in the sense of being comfortable reacting to the specific skills of his personnel.

He wasn't great with young players, which the team should see a lot of in the next few years. Outside of the bullpen thing, none of his above skills were so far superior to his colleagues that they begged for his retention, as though he would perpetually be the best candidate to manage the Twins.

So they want somebody new. I'm in a realm of comfort with that where I accept the reasoning but am still wary that somebody important will think that "somebody new" is an answer in itself. The real problem is that the active roster too frequently consists of guys who aren't good at baseball.

I'm grateful for the job he did shaping those great teams of the 00's. I hope he either lands a plum assignment elsewhere or enjoys his retirement.

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236. "kind of happy, kind of sad"
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kind of excited, kind of scared.

just a weird feeling altogether.

tip of the cap, either way.

  

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237. "2015 Twins manager candidate power rankings!"
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Based on headline visibility.

1. Paul Molitor
2. John Russell
3. Chip Hale
4. Doug Mientkiewicz
6. Torey Lovullo
6. Field (Dave Martinez? Gene Glynn?)

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238. "what? no ozzie? "
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lawd, that would be fun.

  

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239. "Oh dear / Sandy Alomar"
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It's been super weird to see his name come up. In a universe where he's not freighted with the bad vibes of coming from the White Sox and being kind of a media train wreck, he's basically a worse version of Gardenhire. Pros are that he gets along well with secured veteran talent and runs a bullpen adequately, but I think Gardenhire is better at the latter. And he's got the same tendency to anoint certain players as his binky without really considering better options.

He'd be fun though, I guess.

Now Sandy Alomar is in play. Does his long, long affiliation with another AL Central team count for some in-house credit? I've kind of thought the AL Central is the second most incestuous division with respect to hiring (behind NL West), so just seeing Alomar like fifteen times a year for the bulk of the last two decades has to be worth something.

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240. "plus, he played catcher, so you know he's smart"
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not joe smart, but still smart-smart.

or something.

it's friday. i got nothing.

  

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241. "Right?!"
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>not joe smart, but still smart-smart.
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>or something.
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>it's friday. i got nothing.

He had a 20 year MLB career without ever cracking 500 plate appearances. Outside of some nice offensive years in his mid-20s, he wasn't really much of a hitter.

That kind of screams "smart player" to me. Like Molitor, who seems fairly described as a "baseball savant," I have no idea if that makes a good manager. But one thing he has over Molitor is that he's not a Twin Cities baseball legend, and I've gotten really nervous about having a manager who's impossible to fire.

I'm bumping Alomar up to my #2 choice (lower on the power rankings, but maybe above the guys like Lovullo and Hale who are the guys who seem to finish runner-up in *every* manager search) behind a purely hypothetical scenario where Molitor takes the job for a necessarily-limited three year term.

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243. "after damn near 30 years of boring"
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can't we get a little fire in the managerial office? baseball is a unique grind, so i understand the need for consistency and patience, but, man, we're fucking boring.

none of the names presented really get me excited. those that are internal are guilty by association. those outside ... meh.

what's lou brown doing these days?

  

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244. "Selling white walls in heaven"
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That's actually kind of the model that I want. The play-hard-or-I-just-wont-be-bothered-to-give-a-shit manager.

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242. "Miguel Sano: LFer?"
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Apparently, the question that Ryan was asked had just as much to do about Trevor Plouffe and the internal LF options as it about Sano, but the answer is still interesting.

Plouffe's 3.5 WAR season was a nice little find for the Twins, but it also might be a classic late-20s blip for a guy who's never been an above average hitter or defender for any position he's been tried at. I always thought the defensive tools were there, so it's possible he's growing into his glove at 3B and that's the sort of thing we need as long as are pitchers are still striking out batters at a below-average rate.

But if the Twins are considering buying high on him, it seems worth it to see if other teams might as well when Sano becomes ready. Another half-season like his 2014 and he'll be a nice deadline move for a bunch of clubs. For the moment, I'd rather sit with the rumors that Sano's glove was improving enough that he's viable until his size catches up with his athleticism.

Our staff also doesn't really induce groundballs at a particularly high rate (though Gibson and Meyer in the rotation together could push that) and a plus defender in leftfield is an actual need. The emergence of Dozier and Polanco seems to have pushed Rosario into a LF or utility role until he gets his shit together, but it sounds like he might be useful with the glove in left. He's playing across the outfield in AFL.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/278610501.html

Twins GM Ryan tells fans Sano could be headed for the outfield
Article by: PHIL MILLER , Star Tribune Updated: October 9, 2014 - 12:11 PM

General Manager Terry Ryan told season-ticket holders on Wednesday that Miguel Sano won't be in Minneapolis in April, but when he does arrive he might not be at third base, either.

The Twins’ original timetable may have envisioned Miguel Sano as the team’s starting third baseman next April, but Tommy John surgery and a lost 2014 season changed all that. Sano won’t be in Minneapolis next April, General Manager Terry Ryan told season-ticket holders on Wednesday, and when he does arrive, it’s possible he won’t be a third baseman, either.

“Sano could go to the outfield if he had to,” Ryan said on the team’s annual conference-call Q&A for its best customers. Trevor Plouffe, considered by some observers a place-holder for the organization’s brightest power-hitting prospect, is coming off his best season as the Twins’ third baseman, and Ryan suggested that he might not want to make a change.

“ can run enough. He certainly can throw. His ticket up here is going to be that bat he possesses — he’s got the type of power that everybody’s looking for,” Ryan said. “So if we had a problem at third and you had too much talent over there, which is a good problem to have, you certainly could consider the young kid going to the outfield and learning his craft out there. A lot of them do — there are a lot of young players who come up and change positions in a hurry if they’re blocked an established veteran.”

That’s a decision for later, however, because Ryan also made it clear that Sano, who underwent elbow surgery last February but now “looks pretty healthy to me,” will require more time in the minor leagues. “He’s not going to be ready to make this team out of spring training. He’s going to have to re-establish himself,” Ryan said of the 21-year-old Dominican. “We’ll give him a good look in spring training, but to put that out there, that he’s got a chance to make this club out of spring, I think that would be the wrong approach. He’s barely got any at-bats at Double-A.”

Ryan and Twins President Dave St. Peter answered roughly two dozen questions from fans during the session, ranging from the search for a manager (There are “a lot of people who I need to talk to before we name a guy,” Ryan said) to the slow pace of play (“It has the potential to have a negative impact on the future of our game,” St. Peter said) to Joe Mauer’s indifferent body language during a subpar season.

“He’s got a stoic look. He’s got a calm presence,” Ryan said of the team’s first baseman, who batted a career-low .277 this season. “When the guy doesn’t succeed and have the breakout years that you’re expecting, it looks like he’s disinterested. When he had the big years, it’s calm. So I wouldn’t put too much stock in , one way or the other.”

One caller, after complimenting the team for firing manager Ron Gardenhire, even asked St. Peter why he’s sure Ryan should keep his job in the wake of four straight 90-loss seasons.

“I know this — if Terry Ryan was on the open market, there would be no shortage of teams that would be very interested in him,” St. Peter replied. “It’s a results-oriented business, and until we get this major league club back to where ultimately we want it and you deserve it, those are fair questions. But I’m optimistic we have the right person in charge, the right person to have that balance between building an organization to have success, but also doing it in a way where you can sustain that success over the long haul.”

Ryan promised to try to attract free agents again this winter, in hopes of repeating his free-agent success with Phil Hughes and Kurt Suzuki last winter, though he declined to say how much the team is willing to spend on more pitching. And he repeated his optimism about the team’s coming lode of talent — though he cautioned once more that young players take time to develop.

“We’re not broke here, we’re bent. We’ve got some issues, and we need to make better decisions. But I feel a heck of a lot better about this club and moving forward than I did a year ago,” Ryan said. “I don’t think we’re all that far away . I don’t want to punt on 2015, but it’s still going to be a struggle.”

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245. "Alomar, DeMarlo Hale, McEwing out"
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I read that somewhere yesterday, but for the life of me can't find the link. Apparently, these three were told they weren't getting the job.

Last week's rumor was that Torey Luvullo "nailed his interview" and this week's is that they're meeting with Molitor again today. That probably means it's down to those two, with the substantial possibility that:

a)Molitor's already got it
b)a decision will be announced this week

Those two things aren't mutually exclusive, of course.

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246. "but, but, but ... "
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>b)a decision will be announced this week

THEY CAN'T ANNOUNCE ANYTHING DURING THE WORLD SERIES!!! THEY WILL BE IN SOO MUCH TROUBLE!! OMGZ!!

(stupid)

>a)Molitor's already got it

and ... meh.

  

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247. "STrib: Molitor has 3rd meeting (but not offered job yet)"
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>(stupid)

Agreed. I enjoyed game one and look forward to the remainder of a nice world series. But my team has stuff to take care of this fall/winter and so in conclusion: fuck everybody else.

>>a)Molitor's already got it
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>and ... meh.

As long as the team has a sound exit-strategy, I'm good with Molitor.
For a guy who was actually a kind of old-school player, he comes across as fairly open-minded with respect to some of the stuff that's been responsible for driving the success of up-and-coming teams over the past couple seasons: speed and defense.

We're not presently built for either of those things, which combines with our contact-first staff to create a fairly fucked team. But I like the idea that he might be more interested in padding out a roster with useful players rather than useful ideas, like Gardenhire used to.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/280009422.html

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248. "what do you talk about at a 3rd meeting with an internal candidate? "
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what's available at the team buffet? whether jeans fridays should be implemented? the ending of gone girl? smh. just hire him already.

  

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249. "No swipe STrib roundup: Managers, Burton, winterball"
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1. Apparently, the manager search "could expand." Okay. Whatever brings in somebody good, I suppose. Seems odd, though.

2. The team declined Jared Burton's 2015 option, so he's gone. There should be good relief prospects moving quickly through the system. The team denies that Nick Burdi is on some super fast track, but he throws 103 fucking miles per hour and struck out nearly two guys per inning this season in A-ball so maybe the Twins plans to fast-track him or not really don't matter if those abilities remain intact.

3. Rosario is raking in the AFL. Buxton is not but doesn't look overmatched and is, more importantly, healthy. And Aaron Hicks is actually playing in Venezuela, which it seems the team argues with him about every winter. So.... good things.

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