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"Wrestling Post - WWE Network Launch Day to Wrestlemania XXX"


  

          

I'm gonna go ahead and assume that the reason why I can't get this WWE Network to work is that there are a crapload of people trying to watch at the same time, and not that this shit is an abject failure. Signed up on WWE.com, and get "Media Error: Video Not Available" on EVERY video I click to watch. Tried to log into it on the PS3, and get "Account Not Recognized" when I put in my login info. I'll give this a couple of weeks to work out the kinks, but if this is how this is gonna always be, looks like we might not get to see Wrestlemania this year if the only place to watch it is on the Network.....




You gon' live forever
Whether you want to or not
Some of us gon' end up holy
Some of us gon' end up hot.....

  

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there were problems but it worked for me
Feb 24th 2014
1
i'm starting to feel bad for boo tista
Feb 24th 2014
2
I'm not
Feb 24th 2014
5
      blame vince.
Feb 24th 2014
7
           Sure, but I don't pity a wrestler who gets booed in that spot
Feb 24th 2014
8
                he should just go back to what he was during his last run as a heel
Feb 24th 2014
9
yep, i went through the same use case
Feb 24th 2014
3
foh bootista.
Feb 24th 2014
4
Austin vs Rock on the mic this WM main event is not
Feb 24th 2014
6
Big E is actually lame. Anyone ready to agree yet?
Feb 24th 2014
10
He's a LOT green and has a terrible onesie, but dude is hilarious
Mar 11th 2014
259
I can log in to the network on my laptop but can't get videos to play
Feb 24th 2014
11
My same issue.....
Feb 24th 2014
15
      Nope, never put in my credit card info
Feb 24th 2014
26
           Then that's why you aren't seeing anything.....
Feb 24th 2014
28
                Yeah, I'm in now
Feb 24th 2014
37
Hope E's okay
Feb 24th 2014
12
cena down.
Feb 24th 2014
13
I think they took him down awkward by his leg, probably ok
Feb 24th 2014
14
Best WM30 gif we will see: http://i.imgur.com/o81aUdq.gif
Feb 24th 2014
16
lol
Feb 24th 2014
18
lol
Feb 25th 2014
47
back in the day that broke up a tag team on the spot
Feb 24th 2014
17
Fuck we may be getting Bryan vs HHH
Feb 24th 2014
19
that was a swerve, he's getting the belt
Feb 24th 2014
20
actually, he'll beat HHH and then win the belt.
Feb 24th 2014
22
      That'd work for me
Feb 24th 2014
23
      If that happens, they'll probably have him drop it the next night.
Feb 25th 2014
39
      RE: If that happens, they'll probably have him drop it the next night.
Feb 25th 2014
41
      that's what i'm hoping for.
Feb 25th 2014
48
That went down about the way I thought it would
Feb 24th 2014
21
but Bryan that's not what we want...
Feb 24th 2014
24
With Hogan there we are going to get a WM 9 situation
Feb 24th 2014
25
RE: With Hogan there we are going to get a WM 9 situation
Feb 25th 2014
40
This is shaping up to be a really fun Summerslam
Feb 24th 2014
27
Wasnt there talk of Lesnar tonight?
Feb 24th 2014
29
They've advertised him all night
Feb 24th 2014
30
      Ya forgot Taker should be back tonight too, that will be the end
Feb 24th 2014
31
           I wish taker would retire
Feb 24th 2014
33
                agreed, but that ending was gully!
Feb 24th 2014
34
                bruh aint even gotta say a word either lmao.
Feb 24th 2014
35
                RE: I wish taker would retire
Feb 25th 2014
38
                RE: I wish taker would retire
Feb 25th 2014
42
                I'm good on it. It's been a major Mania highlight for the last decade
Feb 25th 2014
50
                     yeah, I'm fine with it as long as his matches keep producing.
Feb 25th 2014
52
I've missed Heyman these last few weeks
Feb 24th 2014
32
That was awesome
Feb 24th 2014
36
if you think Bryan's winning the belt at Mania you're trippin.
Feb 25th 2014
43
Nah, I think it's happening now
Feb 25th 2014
44
but him being 'screwed' still furthers his angle with HHH...
Feb 25th 2014
45
      I mean he may still get a title run out of this...
Feb 25th 2014
46
      do you know what 'nonsensical' means?
Feb 25th 2014
54
           there's ONE way I see this happening.
Feb 25th 2014
56
      the problem is the title match will still end with boos
Feb 25th 2014
51
I'm cautiously optimistic.
Feb 25th 2014
49
they can eff it up, still, but I think this is the plan
Feb 25th 2014
55
      if mnagement KNOWS Batista/Orton will be a bad match...
Feb 25th 2014
57
           wrestling is fake do you know that?
Feb 25th 2014
58
                what's with the condescending tone? we're saying the same things.
Feb 25th 2014
59
                He does, which is why what he's saying makes perfect sense.
Feb 25th 2014
60
it's happening
Feb 25th 2014
53
      it's happening
Mar 10th 2014
237
           happened
Apr 06th 2014
440
They're showing WrestleMania Rewind on the network right now
Feb 25th 2014
61
Doesn't work for me yet.
Feb 25th 2014
62
      i give it a D+ so far for the performance/latency issues alone
Feb 26th 2014
63
           it's day 3, no?
Feb 26th 2014
64
           Yeah, but a lot of people can't even log in yet.
Feb 26th 2014
67
           The live stuff is fine but yea the PPVs and old shows don't work
Feb 26th 2014
65
                RE: The live stuff is fine but yea the PPVs and old shows don't work
Feb 26th 2014
68
So are we gonna do an OKP Weekly Throwback PPV watch/discussion
Feb 26th 2014
66
Today was the first day that everything I tried worked...
Feb 26th 2014
69
A+++ fantasy booking, cot damn
Feb 27th 2014
70
make it a fatal four way elimination and that shit would be fire
Feb 27th 2014
71
With Aaron Paul hosting, I wonder if he will get booed too.
Feb 27th 2014
84
      *clap clap clapclapclap Jes-se Pink-man!*
Feb 27th 2014
85
           Over/Under on how many times he says "Bitch".
Feb 28th 2014
87
Anyone watching NXT Arrival?
Feb 27th 2014
72
I'm tuned in. Great match so far.
Feb 27th 2014
73
Jesus, what a match!
Feb 27th 2014
74
Idk what it's gonna take to get me into the Ascension
Feb 27th 2014
75
they suck.
Feb 27th 2014
78
I wish WWE would give their divas creative names
Feb 27th 2014
76
Emma's powerbomb gets a "Better than Batista" chant
Feb 27th 2014
77
And... The stream just went screwy
Feb 27th 2014
79
Damn thing is still screwed up.
Feb 27th 2014
80
      Yours went out at the same time mine did
Feb 27th 2014
83
God damn the NXT title belt is terrible
Feb 27th 2014
81
Now that I got it working, the Network might be the best thing ever....
Feb 27th 2014
82
If they can work out all the kinks, it'll be dope
Feb 27th 2014
86
*claps* to WWE beefing up their servers. works fine for me now.
Feb 28th 2014
88
      RE: *claps* to WWE beefing up their servers. works fine for me now.
Feb 28th 2014
89
           They sent out an email, Xbox is down til Monday
Mar 01st 2014
92
                aight...I'm using the PS3 now..
Mar 02nd 2014
107
Batista opened Smackdown with the most boring monologue ever.
Mar 01st 2014
90
Agreed, that was pretty painful
Mar 01st 2014
91
WWE edited the chants too
Mar 01st 2014
93
      I want the real story on why he's getting screwed so bad
Mar 01st 2014
94
           Backstage WWE is some high school girl's locker room level shit
Mar 01st 2014
95
           Maybe he fucked Steph too, lol
Mar 02nd 2014
97
The Punk thing has gotta be a work.
Mar 01st 2014
96
Dont know if it was all along, but I think they're gonna make it one tom...
Mar 02nd 2014
98
Yeah, just saw that.
Mar 02nd 2014
99
      I hope he returns w/"This Fire Burns" as his theme song
Mar 02nd 2014
100
      Creative sucks. expect the worst.
Mar 02nd 2014
101
It's a shoot that became, or will become, a work
Mar 02nd 2014
102
Oh the anger! My goodness!
Mar 02nd 2014
103
      Nope
Mar 02nd 2014
104
I hope his music hits followed by the sound of a gavel
Mar 02nd 2014
105
      Ooo I've gotta say that would be fun
Mar 02nd 2014
106
      Fans are gonna do their best to take over the show
Mar 02nd 2014
108
           I expect to get annoyed with this crowd tomorrow
Mar 02nd 2014
109
                Yeah I was all into the new, fed up WWE Universe
Mar 02nd 2014
110
                     yep
Mar 02nd 2014
112
      that'd be some quality fuckery.
Mar 02nd 2014
113
      If they do that, them cats in Chicago might literally riot, b.
Mar 03rd 2014
115
WWE Network - PS3...
Mar 02nd 2014
111
Yeah, mine has been running flawlessly....
Mar 02nd 2014
114
The 2000 Russo "shoot" on Hogan (paraphrased from memory)
Mar 03rd 2014
116
I watched No Way Out 2001 last night
Mar 03rd 2014
117
Outside of main event picture they are almost at that level now
Mar 03rd 2014
118
I totally agree. Hate to give Triple H credit, but it's due.
Mar 03rd 2014
119
don't start me...
Mar 03rd 2014
125
RE: WWE Network - PS3...
Mar 03rd 2014
129
Canceling today.
Mar 03rd 2014
120
if you really want it, you should leverage that to your advantage.
Mar 03rd 2014
121
They said they aren't extending the free trials.
Mar 03rd 2014
126
it still doesn't work on any Microsoft systems???
Mar 03rd 2014
122
I don't think it's available at all on Xbox One yet
Mar 03rd 2014
124
They sent this email Friday:
Mar 03rd 2014
127
Temporarily canceling mine as well
Mar 03rd 2014
123
one week in -- what are the PPV(s) you've watched that you'd slept on?
Mar 03rd 2014
128
haha...word...
Mar 03rd 2014
130
it's like the '92 rumble gets better with each viewing
Mar 03rd 2014
131
      The little kids crying though, THAT is gold
Mar 03rd 2014
138
RE: Backlash 2003 / Backlash 2004
Mar 06th 2014
192
it's not quite Bad News but i'll take it.
Mar 03rd 2014
132
WWE messing with this crowd is gonna be great
Mar 03rd 2014
133
Heyman sitting in the ring, legs crossed, is a nice touch
Mar 03rd 2014
134
Usos win the tag belts
Mar 03rd 2014
135
Ya, not sure why they don't get a WM moment
Mar 03rd 2014
137
Holy shit @ Cesaro catching Big E midair on his shoulder
Mar 03rd 2014
136
Holy shit Seth Rollins
Mar 03rd 2014
139
Imagine if WWE worked to make crowds happy every week
Mar 03rd 2014
140
the swagger interference angle is pretty good
Mar 03rd 2014
141
damn, why can't all the matches be like this?
Mar 03rd 2014
142
dammit Rollins.
Mar 03rd 2014
143
That was pretty great
Mar 03rd 2014
146
This first hour has been incredible!
Mar 03rd 2014
144
Farewell to the Shield, the most interesting faction since the 90s.
Mar 03rd 2014
145
Well put
Mar 03rd 2014
147
a little premature don't you think?
Mar 11th 2014
264
"now i have the opportunity to show my daughters some of their
Mar 03rd 2014
148
He is though....
Mar 03rd 2014
151
I thought that was about to be an Authority heel promo
Mar 03rd 2014
153
right?
Mar 03rd 2014
154
I could care less about Christian vs Sheamus
Mar 03rd 2014
149
This crowd couldn't care less
Mar 03rd 2014
150
Which fucking sucks for a couple of reasons.
Mar 04th 2014
167
      Christian is DDP...
Mar 04th 2014
174
these niggas made a scooby doo dvd lmao.
Mar 03rd 2014
152
goddamn the heat is off the charts right now.
Mar 03rd 2014
155
HHH seems a little rattled, LOL
Mar 03rd 2014
156
I see no way in which he fights for the title at Wrestlemania. None.
Mar 03rd 2014
157
See it yet?
Mar 10th 2014
232
Lol. Well done, Cesaro
Mar 03rd 2014
158
That segment was great
Mar 03rd 2014
159
ditch Rusev but keep Lana
Mar 03rd 2014
160
WTF is going on? It's 11:08 and we're at commercial
Mar 03rd 2014
161
Sorry guys, we're getting the WM none of us want
Mar 03rd 2014
162
Them Dirt Sheets got us again
Mar 03rd 2014
163
I'm betting WWE leaked misinformation to spike ratings.
Mar 03rd 2014
164
F CM Punk
Mar 03rd 2014
165
I seriously hope Punk is taking a page out of the Pillman playbook here....
Mar 04th 2014
166
The Shield is basically The Rockers with three Shawn Michaels
Mar 04th 2014
168
AND ANOTHER THING! Bryan is THEE PERFECT ambassador for the PG era
Mar 04th 2014
169
I have him listed as new Kurt Angle...
Mar 04th 2014
175
      there is a way to keep the Shield together or at least reinvent them.
Mar 04th 2014
176
For everyone who is saying/thinking FUCK CM PUNK!
Mar 04th 2014
170
LeBron dropped 61 last night thanks to CM Punk
Mar 04th 2014
181
***deploys a sarin gas attack all over this post***
Mar 04th 2014
171
So where do we stand with the WM main event?
Mar 04th 2014
172
it seems far fetched that they'd stick with the current match
Mar 04th 2014
173
My guess is Hogan's going to add somebody next week
Mar 04th 2014
177
      I think you might be right - he's billed for a special announcement
Mar 04th 2014
178
Batista doing two matches in one night on WM would be too funny
Mar 04th 2014
186
      haha, looks like Orton for the win in round 1 then.
Mar 05th 2014
189
Network question:
Mar 04th 2014
179
the latter
Mar 04th 2014
180
"Look, this guy is HUGE on the Internet. Our hardcore fans love him."
Mar 04th 2014
182
"Congratulations on being worse than Green Bay, Chicago."
Mar 04th 2014
183
I just read it. He's spot on about CM Punk.
Mar 04th 2014
184
When Stroud's on, he's absolute money.
Mar 04th 2014
185
aw man, can you imagine an arena filled with silence?!
Mar 05th 2014
188
This reminds me of the NHL in the 90s
Mar 05th 2014
187
Fortunately (unfortunately?), Vince is now in the rarefied air...
Mar 05th 2014
190
STAND BACK (c) vince
Mar 06th 2014
193
IT ISN'T THAT BAD THOUGH
Mar 05th 2014
191
I told yall that months ago. *shrugs*
Mar 10th 2014
194
      No one's saying this is new information.
Mar 10th 2014
195
      if it's something you "already knew"...
Mar 12th 2014
269
      What limits who he can draw?
Mar 10th 2014
196
      certain people can draw certain demographics.
Mar 12th 2014
270
           RE: certain people can draw certain demographics.
Mar 13th 2014
272
      BWUAHAHHAHAHAHAH@taking credit for some Capt Obvious
Mar 10th 2014
202
is it me, of has WWE ruined DB's organic following
Mar 10th 2014
197
if they haven't, it's not due to lack of effort
Mar 10th 2014
198
Nope not you, we all saw this coming
Mar 10th 2014
199
No. IMO, that's an irrational backlash.
Mar 10th 2014
200
DB standing in the ring "listen to them! we have a voice! that's why the...
Mar 10th 2014
209
I couldn't care less about that though. He's still wildly popular.
Mar 10th 2014
201
I don't get why anyone would think WWE SHOULDN'T acknowledge
Mar 10th 2014
203
      still blows my mind he was pegged to fight, like, Sheamus at WM
Mar 10th 2014
204
      that would've been disastrous
Mar 10th 2014
206
           what sucks is the match itself would have been fucking beautiful.
Mar 10th 2014
208
      it's about character consistency for the authority
Mar 10th 2014
205
           it makes perfect sense IMO. After all, they consider him a "B+" guy.
Mar 10th 2014
207
                but they also shouldn't want him to have the support of an A guy.
Mar 10th 2014
221
                     A lot of this is downright nitpicking in my book.
Mar 11th 2014
249
Contrived? Nah. Corny as shit? Sure. But what can you do?
Mar 10th 2014
220
So what do we think Hogan's announcement is?
Mar 10th 2014
210
My guess is announcing a celebrity being at the show
Mar 10th 2014
211
      probably some dumb shit like
Mar 10th 2014
212
           LOL@ a Seether concert.
Mar 10th 2014
213
Not sure how I feel about the trophy
Mar 10th 2014
214
jobbers gotta earn that WM check too.
Mar 10th 2014
215
Good chance for 1 night returns too
Mar 10th 2014
216
I hope El Torito wins it
Mar 10th 2014
217
they need to add some real stakes to it
Mar 10th 2014
224
Surely that ends with all 3 Shield guys standing there right?
Mar 10th 2014
246
I'm ABSOLUTELY positive this is why they added it. With the old
Mar 11th 2014
260
The Rock and Austin just rolled over in their graves
Mar 10th 2014
218
Oh, wait a minute, they're gonna turn the Shield babyface???
Mar 10th 2014
219
AJ Lee appreciation
Mar 10th 2014
222
LL referencing his Rampage verse....that was great
Mar 10th 2014
223
LL's conditioner bit had me laughing too
Mar 10th 2014
225
"Give it to me, chubby." - HHH
Mar 10th 2014
226
wow this yes movement is wack now
Mar 10th 2014
227
#OccupyRaw
Mar 10th 2014
228
Here we gooooo
Mar 10th 2014
229
And there it is.
Mar 10th 2014
231
And there it is
Mar 10th 2014
230
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
Mar 10th 2014
233
Mania got a lot more interesting tonight
Mar 10th 2014
234
Yup. WM30 will end
Mar 10th 2014
235
Stephanie is great
Mar 10th 2014
236
I agree, both Steffy and Trips were on fire
Mar 10th 2014
238
RE: I agree, both Steffy and Trips were on fire
Mar 10th 2014
239
RE: So great
Mar 10th 2014
240
We know how that match ends right?
Mar 10th 2014
241
      Oh my god I just shed a happy tear
Mar 10th 2014
243
           Biggest mark out moment ever?
Mar 10th 2014
244
                I'd vomit a rainbow
Mar 10th 2014
248
                     lol
Mar 11th 2014
253
You guys WM just got so good tonight, I'm so excited to go
Mar 10th 2014
242
^^^this...can't wait...
Mar 10th 2014
247
Well they did it. Didn't think they would but they did it.
Mar 10th 2014
245
All I care about is the fact that they've kept me guessing the entire ti...
Mar 11th 2014
250
I don't believe any of this was planned...
Mar 11th 2014
251
Definitely was not the plan in mid January, but they handled it well
Mar 11th 2014
252
      Yes, I'd say you're right...
Mar 11th 2014
254
           I kind of like how they did it with the sit in
Mar 11th 2014
255
                one minor little flaw about Triple H last night...
Mar 11th 2014
256
                That would have been good too, but his anger was just so real
Mar 11th 2014
257
                Yeah, you're actually right...
Mar 11th 2014
262
                I think Hogan would have been boring and out of place
Mar 12th 2014
267
                Stephanie was GREAT
Mar 11th 2014
265
I was quietly enjoying the lost fuckery of the last few weeks
Mar 11th 2014
258
      Yeah, you're really spot-on with that...
Mar 11th 2014
261
heyman's promo last night shined on how much Rocky was jobbing on WM's
Mar 11th 2014
263
remember when the rock was beefin w/ mr ass
Mar 12th 2014
266
      Billy had a very strong run at the time
Mar 12th 2014
268
      See this the type of shit that will make me buy the network
Mar 12th 2014
271
      Yeah, he was just coming off a KOTR tourney win
Mar 13th 2014
273
      they were tryna build up mr ass tho. it didn't last long.
Mar 13th 2014
274
           However, if there wasn't that feud, we may never have gotten...
Mar 13th 2014
275
           No, but he was ripe for a bigger push.
Mar 13th 2014
           i mean this push didn't last long..and when they changed his name
Mar 13th 2014
277
                Didn't Billy blow it though?
Mar 13th 2014
280
                     Must be their match at Armageddon 2000
Mar 13th 2014
287
           No, but he was ripe for a bigger push.
Mar 13th 2014
276
i wonder how the outlaws and hhh get along now. i recall they HATED him ...
Mar 13th 2014
278
Really? I thought they were all tight?
Mar 13th 2014
279
*smh* That was years ago
Mar 13th 2014
281
chu shaking your head for, tho? lol
Mar 14th 2014
288
I've seen that interview
Mar 13th 2014
282
Road Dogg did straight up call him a dick.
Mar 13th 2014
283
      Damn... Can we get the video???
Mar 13th 2014
284
           here's the audio
Mar 13th 2014
285
they talked real greasy about HHH.
Mar 13th 2014
286
when trips had that motorhead mastache lol
Mar 14th 2014
289
yeah that shoot interview was on youtube a few years ago
Mar 14th 2014
290
They did another one where they apologized for all of that.
Mar 16th 2014
293
      oh ok, now THAT i did not now
Mar 17th 2014
295
10 years ago today
Mar 14th 2014
291
RE: 10 years ago today
Mar 16th 2014
292
victims of their own "success", I guess.
Mar 16th 2014
294
HHH stars in Bury Everyone or Die Trying.
Mar 17th 2014
296
I like the stipulation
Mar 17th 2014
298
RE: I like the stipulation
Mar 17th 2014
300
Huh? Who's getting buried?
Mar 17th 2014
313
That opening segment was gold
Mar 17th 2014
297
Batista was sooooooo bad
Mar 17th 2014
299
      The state of the promo in WWE...
Mar 17th 2014
301
           Nah. That's just Dave. There are quite a few quality promos right now
Mar 17th 2014
314
                I'm not on a first name basis with him like you are.
Mar 18th 2014
326
                     Whatever. Dave sucks, not everyone else.
Mar 18th 2014
330
Nice to see Cena actually building Bray up this week
Mar 17th 2014
302
Stephanie must be a Skylar White fan...
Mar 17th 2014
303
Face Shield makes no sense, but now they can fight Wyatts weekly
Mar 17th 2014
304
Why do you think it makes no sense? It's been a natural progression.
Mar 17th 2014
312
      I just mean character wise they are built to be heel
Mar 18th 2014
323
           Yeah I can see the worry that they'll turn cheesy.
Mar 18th 2014
329
                Shield and Cena becoming friends is a big step
Mar 27th 2014
380
Goldust wanted to kill fandango
Mar 17th 2014
305
Yea, what happened there exactly?
Mar 17th 2014
306
Botched suplex, landed all sortsa wrong on the 2nd attempt
Mar 17th 2014
307
      Damn
Mar 17th 2014
308
he was furious.
Mar 17th 2014
315
This crowd is determined to "What?" HHH for some reason
Mar 17th 2014
309
well that was dumb.
Mar 17th 2014
310
Man, the look she was giving him as the show ended
Mar 17th 2014
317
lol
Mar 17th 2014
319
Live Sex Show 2014 only on the WWE Network.
Mar 17th 2014
320
Yeah, dumb cool, with some nice heat.
Mar 18th 2014
321
There's a video package of it I'm struggling to find
Mar 18th 2014
324
Nah. That shit was a classic.
Mar 20th 2014
344
That was a pretty epic ass whooping
Mar 17th 2014
311
Usos are crazy over on some Hardy Boyz shit.
Mar 17th 2014
316
yeah, this seems to be the trend in the tag division unfortuantely
Mar 18th 2014
322
Guess they had to set up a tag title match at WM
Mar 18th 2014
325
It's pretty amazing to watch Heyman build up a match
Mar 17th 2014
318
Is Kane injured?
Mar 18th 2014
327
I think it is related to his potential congress run
Mar 18th 2014
328
wow, had no idea he was politically inclined.
Mar 18th 2014
332
      Hard right free market libertarianish Republican.
Mar 18th 2014
334
I read on one wrestling site that mentions retirement is near
Mar 18th 2014
331
      RE: I read on one wrestling site that mentions retirement is near
Mar 18th 2014
333
           Uh, yeah, I wouldn't want Kane as my congressman tho, lol
Mar 18th 2014
335
                Considering his policy stances...
Mar 18th 2014
336
When Steph gets involved at Mania, Brie Bella should make the save
Mar 18th 2014
337
So, I mean... NXT shits all over TNA. I've slept too long
Mar 19th 2014
338
There are weeks I enjoy NXT more than Raw
Mar 19th 2014
339
I just re-signed up for the network, so I'll have to catch up on it.
Mar 20th 2014
340
      I got that offer too, I knew it would be coming
Mar 20th 2014
341
Consequence has a new Wyatt based song called "Follow the Buzzards"
Mar 20th 2014
342
Million Dollar Man on the AMA tip
Mar 20th 2014
343
Sorry, but that Raw ending is on that Savage/Cobra, Mountie/Bret
Mar 21st 2014
345
You're right about Raw, just loses power in the mess of the whole story
Mar 21st 2014
346
      things are crazy now...
Mar 21st 2014
347
      agree with all of this
Mar 21st 2014
348
Damn, who did Sandow piss off?
Mar 24th 2014
349
that match was embarrasingly short
Mar 25th 2014
372
Reality Era, huh?
Mar 24th 2014
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The Masked man has been calling it that for 2 years
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      Yep, sat down and did an interview with him last year
Mar 24th 2014
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      Guess he's just acknowledging it, like the not real cops thing
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      Well, we know they've met
Mar 24th 2014
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      Masked Man probably been giggling like a schoolgirl for the last
Mar 24th 2014
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Triple H is absolutely killing it right now
Mar 24th 2014
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^^^ lol, I'd watch that shit
Mar 24th 2014
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That was fantastic
Mar 24th 2014
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wyatts out there clowning now.
Mar 24th 2014
357
So, all this talk about how "they're aware of the audience's awareness"
Mar 24th 2014
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Maybe they're planning on inducting the NWO at a later date?
Mar 24th 2014
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Most likely saving "The Outsiders" for a less stacked class
Mar 25th 2014
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      Yeah, nah, this ain't about saving The Outsiders/NWO for a later date.
Mar 25th 2014
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      HEY YO. bad times don't last.... bad guys do - scott hall
Mar 25th 2014
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if Brock's voice cracked in your presence, would you laugh?
Mar 24th 2014
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i'd probably give him the sideeye by accident.
Mar 25th 2014
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http://youtu.be/nB_xOLcYTlw
Mar 31st 2014
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THAT MATCH. THAT FUCKING MATCH.
Mar 24th 2014
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It was insane
Mar 24th 2014
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The Shield are so good I'm looking forward to an Outlaws match in 2014
Mar 24th 2014
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      I'm excited to see them get a W at Mania but match seems a waste
Mar 24th 2014
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           RE: I'm excited to see them get a W at Mania but match seems a waste
Mar 24th 2014
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Uhhhhhh . . . Casket Match? I can get down with that.
Mar 24th 2014
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Dude is gunning for that HBK crown.
Mar 24th 2014
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Damn. That Fatal 4 Way could have opened Mania.
Mar 24th 2014
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Yeah, but that same match in Milwaukee goes over different
Mar 25th 2014
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      it's always interesting how differently things play in certain cities
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           To be fair, the Occupy Raw angle happened at the start of the 3rd hour
Mar 25th 2014
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has anyone seen Chris Jericho's web series?
Mar 27th 2014
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The show's been dull as hell tonight
Mar 31st 2014
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Considering it's been a weak mania build overall, not surprising
Mar 31st 2014
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Ha the tag titles is preshow. So 1 title match on the WM card
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      If I may
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           agreed, but there's no reason for this treatment of the IC and US titles
Mar 31st 2014
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           I think the card itself will be good, I think the build was lackluster
Apr 01st 2014
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                they were hell bent on getting to Cena/Bray at Mania
Apr 01st 2014
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                     Yes I agree...
Apr 02nd 2014
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good ending to a boring ass show
Mar 31st 2014
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That fucking HHH highlight package with Steffy narrating was def
Apr 01st 2014
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I was dying. That was so good.
Apr 01st 2014
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They're having an absolutely fantastic heel run here
Apr 01st 2014
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Apr 01st 2014
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Apr 02nd 2014
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Anyone else think Punk will return at the RAW after WM??
Apr 01st 2014
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I'm probably one of the few that think he shows up AT Mania
Apr 01st 2014
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      I actually think he won't be back any time soon...
Apr 02nd 2014
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           Yea I don't think Punk is coming back this week, or has plan to soon
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                I would love this!
Apr 03rd 2014
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custom WMXXX shirts I made for the fam
Apr 02nd 2014
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pretty cool, and pretty jealous of you
Apr 02nd 2014
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      how so?
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           ahahaha I assumed you were going!!!
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                tryna hype it up for the kids man ...
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                     I sleep on how deep kids are into this thing.
Apr 03rd 2014
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                          IT"S STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT
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                          MAN!
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                               haha, this is all great.
Apr 03rd 2014
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AHHH I LEAVE FOR NEW ORLEANS TOMORROW
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nice!
Apr 03rd 2014
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RE: AHHH I LEAVE FOR NEW ORLEANS TOMORROW
Apr 03rd 2014
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WOW!
Apr 03rd 2014
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This:
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      I would lose my mind if this happened
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It's crazy out here man. Ran Into so many wrestlers...
Apr 03rd 2014
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just a thought...
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I'd actually make that point about Orton
Apr 04th 2014
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Apparently there have been "yes" chants at the N.O. airport
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^ for the HOF
Apr 05th 2014
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Are HOF speeches always this long?
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Yes, they are.
Apr 05th 2014
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Anybody else watch the "Legends of Wrestlemania" roundtable?
Apr 05th 2014
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Ric Flair, for the most part, is a dirtbag
Apr 05th 2014
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Mick sorta trashed him in his book
Apr 06th 2014
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Yeah, Mr. T done lost the crowd, lol
Apr 05th 2014
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lol WOW
Apr 05th 2014
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Exactly how crazy was it?
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lol was that a shoot?
Apr 05th 2014
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      Not sure, but it's kinda bogus, since I'm assuming it was done for
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      RE: lol was that a shoot?
Apr 06th 2014
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I expect tomorrow to be a disaster on the network
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RE: I expect tomorrow to be a disaster on the network
Apr 06th 2014
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Man, you'd think, but...
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yeah i was streaming via PS3 (wireless) last night
Apr 06th 2014
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yeah, we're gonna start the stream early
Apr 06th 2014
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anyone else hyped up for 'Mania tonight?
Apr 06th 2014
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anyone else think vince jerks the carpet and breaks up the shield?
Apr 06th 2014
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who signed off on that torito/hornswoggle segment?
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cereffusion
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1. "there were problems but it worked for me"
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http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2014/2/24/5443116/wwe-network-review-its-early-but-its-glorious

  

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2. "i'm starting to feel bad for boo tista"
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5. "I'm not"
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You go away for 4 years and come back and get put right back on top. You're not the Rock, you don't get to do that and the crowd is letting him know.

That promo was garbage and he is garbage

  

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7. "blame vince. "
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8. "Sure, but I don't pity a wrestler who gets booed in that spot"
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Turn into a heel, embrace it and be a monster heel

Your storyline and mic skills and ring work still suck but at least make yourself a great heel out of it. Every wrestler on the roster would kill for your spot and for your heat.

  

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9. "he should just go back to what he was during his last run as a heel"
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just cussing out fans at ringside during his entrance.

was pretty entertaining, actually.

  

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3. "yep, i went through the same use case"
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i'm sure they QA'd the app to death, but like any (first gen) release, there are gonna be bugs.

edit: my guess is their servers can't handle this many users trying to hit 'em at once.

  

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4. "foh bootista."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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6. "Austin vs Rock on the mic this WM main event is not"
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10. "Big E is actually lame. Anyone ready to agree yet?"
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The dude looks ridiculous.

  

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259. "He's a LOT green and has a terrible onesie, but dude is hilarious"
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and has a personality that they really need to dig into. His IG is comedy and actually kinda kills the gimmick.

www.nappyafro.com

  

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11. "I can log in to the network on my laptop but can't get videos to play"
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Earlier this morning I tried to access it via my PS4 but kept being told that my email and password were "not recognized"

I have yet to try again

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15. "My same issue....."
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did you ever put in your credit card info? I was on the phone with their tech support but got disconnected, but it looked like that was my issue.....




You gon' live forever
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Some of us gon' end up holy
Some of us gon' end up hot.....

  

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26. "Nope, never put in my credit card info"
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28. "Then that's why you aren't seeing anything....."
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once I put in my credit card info for the free trial, it created a WWE Network account and I was able to see video. Other than the freezing that's too be expected with a new launch, everything's working great now.....



You gon' live forever
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37. "Yeah, I'm in now"
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The 'video error' message I was getting magically disappeared at around 8:04 PST (11:04 EST)

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12. "Hope E's okay"
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That Neutralizer looked botched as hell.

  

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13. "cena down."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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14. "I think they took him down awkward by his leg, probably ok"
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I'd guess a pulled muscle or something like that, but nothing serious.

  

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16. "Best WM30 gif we will see: http://i.imgur.com/o81aUdq.gif"
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http://i.imgur.com/o81aUdq.gif

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18. "lol"
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47. "lol"
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17. "back in the day that broke up a tag team on the spot"
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19. "Fuck we may be getting Bryan vs HHH"
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20. "that was a swerve, he's getting the belt"
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22. "actually, he'll beat HHH and then win the belt. "
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MARK IT DOWN.

  

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23. "That'd work for me"
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39. "If that happens, they'll probably have him drop it the next night. "
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Or the next PPV, but there's no way he holds it longer than a month.

I have zero faith on him getting an actual run with the title. If anything, they'll give us our moment and then tell us to fuck off the next night.


I am highly pessimistic on this matter.

  

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41. "RE: If that happens, they'll probably have him drop it the next night. "
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>Or the next PPV, but there's no way he holds it longer than a
>month.
>
>I have zero faith on him getting an actual run with the title.
>If anything, they'll give us our moment and then tell us to
>fuck off the next night.
>
>
>I am highly pessimistic on this matter.

And rightfully so. They are overdoing fucking him over so much that it makes me feel like they get it and are trying like hell to have 'the moment' be something surprising, rewarding, and powerful. I'm currently terrified that they arent gonna do it at mania...especially with the network being the 6-month 'our bad' for a Mania with no Bryan holding the title with everyone going batshit and screaming yes.

But fuck that...Hogan is the damn host. The fans have to go home happy. And without Phil coming back and kicking the shit outta HHH, there's no other situation on the card where the crowd could get a wm-worthy payoff to any active angles. The shield can't main event. No one GAF about Cena conquering hillbilly Jesus even if the match is gonna be physical as hell. Taker beating Brock before going back to hotness at home and chilling? Zero fucks given still. So...Bryan with the belt after all of the bullshit is all they have. That is unless Hunter thinks that getting kneed in the face by somebody at the end of mania is the $ payoff...

  

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48. "that's what i'm hoping for."
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get by HHH and get a title shot, then win it.

  

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21. "That went down about the way I thought it would"
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So no Punk, I guess.

  

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24. "but Bryan that's not what we want..."
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25. "With Hogan there we are going to get a WM 9 situation"
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Batista will beat Orton, Bryan will come in somehow perhaps with Hogan's permission and beat him for the belt.

  

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40. "RE: With Hogan there we are going to get a WM 9 situation"
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>Batista will beat Orton, Bryan will come in somehow perhaps
>with Hogan's permission and beat him for the belt.

Damn...that's probably the finish to wm 30. Or it basically has to be something like that or Orton/Bootista can't be the main event unless wwe wants to risk big shit getting dropped on their wm fucking 30 main event! I could see HHH somehow agreeing to take on Bryan before mania for a shot to get added to the Mania Main Event too. But then Boo and Randy have to put Bryan over on some HHH/HBK to Benoit shit except Bryan is way more over than Randy...and we all know wassup with Boo. It's possible that he couldn't have picked a worse time to show up as an old, stiff and brittle musclebound hoss who doesn't show ass/sell. He needs to heel it up quick to give wwe the option to add Bryan.

At least now, I think we are all giving up on Phil popping up in the next month. If he did though... The promo of him verbally murdering HHH to set up the match would be great tv.

  

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27. "This is shaping up to be a really fun Summerslam"
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Oh but it's not Summerslam, it's Wrestlemania. Hm.

  

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29. "Wasnt there talk of Lesnar tonight?"
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Unless he is gonna interfere here and set up a match with Reigns

  

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30. "They've advertised him all night"
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I'm guessing he'll get the final segment.

  

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31. "Ya forgot Taker should be back tonight too, that will be the end"
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33. "I wish taker would retire"
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This 3 Raws and 1 PPV a year bit is dumb, just to come beat someone each year.

  

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34. "agreed, but that ending was gully!"
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35. "bruh aint even gotta say a word either lmao."
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i love it.

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38. "RE: I wish taker would retire"
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>This 3 Raws and 1 PPV a year bit is dumb, just to come beat
>someone each year.

They have to keep it going just incase someone gets to a point where they could get an awesome match out of the gimmick again. HBK did his best 2 wm jobs back to back for it, HHH has done his typical piggieback, CM Punk used it as something to do, and now losing to The Streak is Brock's wm consolation prize since Dwayne tore up his shit last year.

I just wish Taker would at least show up for a lil fall run during Survivor Series or something and get taken out or something...then he could have a reason to show up around valentine's day.

  

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42. "RE: I wish taker would retire"
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I do wish he'd appear more but he does kinda steal the show - his WM matches definitely have over the last 5 years.

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50. "I'm good on it. It's been a major Mania highlight for the last decade"
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his Four-Mania series with DX is a classic in it's own right....to say nothing of his matches with Edge and Punk during that span.

If I get one breathtaking Mania match a year out of The Undertaker, I'm happy.

That said, even if he's not wrestling, they need a better way to setup his Mania matches. The shit with Shawn was sheer perfection, but that can't be the benchmark. They had far too much history and they epitomized the previous two decades of the company in a way nobody else did. Hate Hunter all you want, but his two matches were hardly the piggyback jobs his detractors made them out to be. His two matches weren't handled nearly as well as Shawn's, but again... there was a history and legacy to the two characters that allowed rushed stories to work well.

If anything, I'd like to see Taker maintain some sort of presence on screen, even if he's not wrestling, and find unexpected and organic ways to build to his Mania matches. This year's match should have been Reigns, since The Shield were the ones that put his ass out of commission. I love the way he came out and punked Brock, but I'd rather see a slow burner storyline to reach Mania instead of a Raw confrontation with three weeks to go.

  

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52. "yeah, I'm fine with it as long as his matches keep producing."
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other part-timers returns have been pretty lackluster, but Undertaker comes back for one match a year, kicks ass, and keeps the mythology of the streak going. I'm all for that.

  

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32. "I've missed Heyman these last few weeks"
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36. "That was awesome"
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43. "if you think Bryan's winning the belt at Mania you're trippin."
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edit: I've completely shit canned my hope for that happening. This is partially a bad plan, followed up by an inside joke among upper management. They didn't realize the Batista/Orton situation would blow up in their face, but once it did they started getting a kick out of the reaction. In essence, they're trolling the trolls.

  

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44. "Nah, I think it's happening now"
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There was way too much emphasis on the crowd reaction to him losing on Sunday, combined with Michael Cole's epic rant about how Daniel Bryan keeps getting screwed over, not to mention how they're now making everything Yes!-related corny as fuck and watered down for mass consumption (although, if we're being honest, it really was never as subversive as some of us thought it was)

This feels like a long-term build to him either being thrown in the title match to make it a 3-way, or some other goofy stip where he can get into the match if he beats HHH

You know, the whole "twists and turns on the road to Mania"-type deal

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45. "but him being 'screwed' still furthers his angle with HHH..."
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without needing to issue the title payoff. I hope you're right but I don't see it happening. He'll have the match with HHH at Mania and that'll be it. (Hope I'm wrong though.)

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46. "I mean he may still get a title run out of this..."
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but the run isn't starting at Wrestlemania. He might earn a shot by beating Triple H. But the idea he'll shoehorn his way into the title match AFTER beating Triple is nonsensical.

To cover their ass, the WWE will probably just put Taker/Lesnar on last so as to avoid a riot from ending with Batista/Orton. And just to further strengthen the case for that match going on last instead of the title bout, maybe they make it known this is Taker's last go.

  

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54. "do you know what 'nonsensical' means?"
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a lot of people suspect this is the angle so clearly it makes 'sense.'

  

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56. "there's ONE way I see this happening. "
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Shane McMahon gets involved.

That's it.

  

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51. "the problem is the title match will still end with boos "
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and "Daniel Bryan" chants, regardless of whatever bone they throw him earlier in the night.

  

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49. "I'm cautiously optimistic."
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Two things:

-I don't think they are getting a kick out of it, even as they turn Batista heel. They haven't given him much TV time, and the more they give him the more disappointing he is. He gave an awful, out-of-breath promo last night. I just can't buy him as champ for any amount of time.

-I don't think they let WM 30 end with boos, especially the bad kind, and especially after Royal Rumble and other recent PPVs have been ruined by boos. They just can't.



But then again, this is the WWE.

  

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55. "they can eff it up, still, but I think this is the plan"
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they want 30 to end with a moment.

they will put DB through the grinder for another month.

put all odds against him at wm30 and then have him pull it out when all hope is lost.

it writes itself.

batista/orton will be a shitshow otherwise.

  

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57. "if mnagement KNOWS Batista/Orton will be a bad match..."
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and management KNOWS the crowd response will be dreadful...

then WHY, do tell, WOULD THEY HAVE THE MATCH IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Just so they can be like "ha, gotcha!" ???

No. The reason this match is happening is because they in earnest thought it was the best main event they could produce for Wrestlemania 30. There was no scheme to get us to Daniel Bryan winning the title at Wrestlemania by way of a maguffin. In fact, if CM Punk hadn't left Daniel Bryan wouldn't even be THIS high on the card! So these ideas that "well he has to go through Triple H to get the title shot first" are silly.

  

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58. "wrestling is fake do you know that?"
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he doesn't 'have' to go through HHH. The speculation is that it will be the STIPULATION. And that might not be the only one they give him.

DB was getting a huge pop before punk left and he wasn't getting the title at WM anyway.

If they run with Batista/Orton as the headline event for WM30 and there's no swerve - it'll be a disaster.

  

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59. "what's with the condescending tone? we're saying the same things."
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60. "He does, which is why what he's saying makes perfect sense. "
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53. "it's happening"
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it's just being set-up awkwardly. they want some surprise-factor.

  

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237. "it's happening"
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440. "happened"
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61. "They're showing WrestleMania Rewind on the network right now"
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And it's pretty great. Like a 20 minute doc setting up the main event to WrestleMania 1, and now the match itself.


The streaming channel seems to be working fine for me. Had some buffering and lag issues with the on-demand stuff though. Hopefully they'll get it worked out soon.

  

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62. "Doesn't work for me yet."
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Not the best product rollout I've ever seen.

  

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63. "i give it a D+ so far for the performance/latency issues alone"
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my PS3 stream freezes like every 20 seconds for close to a minute. if it freezes long enough, it just closes and goes back to the ppv cover pic.

checked twitter and it looks like a lot of other folks are having the same issue.

wwe needs to fix this pretty soon if they want folks to convert dat free trial to $9.99.

  

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64. "it's day 3, no?"
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I mean I think it would've been a little naive on anyone's part to think this would open up seamlessly right away.

  

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67. "Yeah, but a lot of people can't even log in yet."
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Such as pretty much all Xbox (including mine) and a bunch of Roku and Android devices. This isn't just latency and lag from a flood of users, this is something technically wrong with the service.

And then they're tweeting:

WWE Network ‏@WWENetwork 23h
Working with MLBAM, we expect to have this issue fully resolved by 6 p.m. tonight. (2/2)

6 PM came and went. Then today:

WWE Network ‏@WWENetwork 3h
We are working to fix log-in issues on the @WWENetwork application that are effecting viewers with accounts created in the last 24 hours.

WWE Network ‏@WWENetwork 3h
We will provide an update shortly for those experiencing @WWENetwork log-in problems.

And Xbox support posted this sometime yesterday:

WWE Limited
Are you having trouble using your WWE app on your Xbox 360 console? We've got you covered, Xbox members! Thanks for being patient while we work toward a fix. We'll provide an update for you as soon as possible.

This isn't high demand, this is something's fucked.

  

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65. "The live stuff is fine but yea the PPVs and old shows don't work"
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I'm not planning to pay for it until after WM anyway since I'm going and want to get my 6 ppvs for my 6 month subscription.

I've enjoyed what I can watch, especially the old Raws they have been showing during the day on the live stream, hopefully it's all fixed up post WM.

  

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68. "RE: The live stuff is fine but yea the PPVs and old shows don't work"
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>I'm not planning to pay for it until after WM anyway since
>I'm going and want to get my 6 ppvs for my 6 month
>subscription.
>
>I've enjoyed what I can watch, especially the old Raws they
>have been showing during the day on the live stream, hopefully
>it's all fixed up post WM.

EXACTLY. I'm in and on WWE Network, but if its not in the morning, I can't even get WCW PPVs to START playing. WCW! And if I do, any attempt to fast forward is automatic Price Is Rights Horns.

The live stuff appears to be pretty steady as long as you just watch it.

Jimaveli

  

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66. "So are we gonna do an OKP Weekly Throwback PPV watch/discussion"
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So many classic events in the chamber at our finger tips, we spend a lot of time trashing the new product together, we may as well go back to when we loved it and have some discussion.

  

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69. "Today was the first day that everything I tried worked..."
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I was able to fast forward on a PPV from the 90s...

  

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70. "A+++ fantasy booking, cot damn"
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from reddit

"The only thing that can save RAW in Chicago"

The show should open with Triple H refusing to wrestle Bryan at mania. The rest of the night Bryan needs to be in the back trying to get Triple H to make the match. Complaining to Step, Complaint to Maddox, bitching in interviews. Finally at the end RAW, Bryan comes out to the ring and calls Triple H out. HHH stays on the stage and says, "I can't wrestle at WrestleMania. I am the COO of a multimillion dollar, publicly traded company. It is not appropriate for me to put myself and this company at risk. But I have found someone to represent me and the interests of this company at WrestleMania. This is a man who loves this industry, a man who respects authority, and a man who knows what is best for business..." Then out comes (in a suit and tie, hair parted, clean shaven) CM Punk. He and Triple H shake hands as the crowd sits in silence and Bryan can't believe what he is seeing. We get Punk V Bryan at Mania, maybe for a title shot at the end of Mania. This being how Triple H talked Punk into turning, because he has always wanted his Mania main event.



(ignore the "crowd sits in silence" part because the CHI crowd would go bonkers, but the rest is fantastic)

  

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71. "make it a fatal four way elimination and that shit would be fire"
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So long as Dave exits first and early, that shit would rival HBK/HHH/Benoit

  

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84. "With Aaron Paul hosting, I wonder if he will get booed too."
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85. "*clap clap clapclapclap Jes-se Pink-man!* "
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*clap clap clapclapclap Jes-se Pink-man!*

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87. "Over/Under on how many times he says "Bitch"."
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What do you think, set it at 3 1/2 or 4 1/2?

  

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72. "Anyone watching NXT Arrival?"
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Gotta say, I'm as excited for this as I am for Mania. Zayn-Cesaro going on first.

  

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73. "I'm tuned in. Great match so far."
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74. "Jesus, what a match!"
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75. "Idk what it's gonna take to get me into the Ascension"
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But it isn't new entrance music.

  

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78. "they suck."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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76. "I wish WWE would give their divas creative names"
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rather than just first names. I mean, it's hard for me to give less of a fuck about the divas division, but at least try to make them a little less generic.

  

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77. "Emma's powerbomb gets a "Better than Batista" chant"
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The NXT crowd is so great sometimes

  

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79. "And... The stream just went screwy"
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80. "Damn thing is still screwed up. "
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I get maybe ten seconds of the live feed, then it cuts to Tyler Breeze's face. After that, the thing dies.

Thing ran perfectly for the first 90 minutes. Doesn't bode well for Mania.

  

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83. "Yours went out at the same time mine did"
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Apparently people were able to get back in

Not me

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81. "God damn the NXT title belt is terrible"
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82. "Now that I got it working, the Network might be the best thing ever...."
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I have a huge gap in my wrestling watching history, like from 2000 to 2011, so I'll be spending a lot of time catching up, especially with the ECW and WCW eras.....



You gon' live forever
Whether you want to or not
Some of us gon' end up holy
Some of us gon' end up hot.....

  

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86. "If they can work out all the kinks, it'll be dope"
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Now that the On Demand elements appear to be working properly I was able to peep WM 17 again

And now I can't get that damn Limp Bizkit "My Way" song out of my head

Aside from a couple of edits (they straight up cut all audio for Undertaker's entrance and exit - at the time he was coming to the ring to Limp Bizkit's "Rollin'", and it also appears the cut the backstage interview with Vince in which he pretty much gave away Austin's heel turn later in the show), the show air pretty much uncensored and as it originally aired...

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88. "*claps* to WWE beefing up their servers. works fine for me now."
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- watched the 1990 royal rumble. saw it a bunch of times on vhs back then, but they've done a really great job capturing/re-mastering the sound. the pops all the faces were getting was pretty audible. hell even the red rooster was over.

- watched the SS montreal screwjob match. you could just hear the tension once bret comes out of his dressing room with the bulldog and neidhart. again, the sound.

- watched the RAW where mike tyson first showed up and austin shoved him. since it was pre-smackdown, i'd forgotten how loaded they were and what they could pack into two hours -- DX, new blackjacks, jeff jarrett, NOD, DOA, new age outlaws, shamrock, rock, ahmed johnson. i'm surprised they didn't bleep out tyson looking at the camera and calling stone cold a "faggot" to end the show. lol

  

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89. "RE: *claps* to WWE beefing up their servers. works fine for me now."
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>- watched the 1990 royal rumble. saw it a bunch of times on
>vhs back then, but they've done a really great job
>capturing/re-mastering the sound. the pops all the faces were
>getting was pretty audible. hell even the red rooster was
>over.
>
>- watched the SS montreal screwjob match. you could just hear
>the tension once bret comes out of his dressing room with the
>bulldog and neidhart. again, the sound.
>
>- watched the RAW where mike tyson first showed up and austin
>shoved him. since it was pre-smackdown, i'd forgotten how
>loaded they were and what they could pack into two hours --
>DX, new blackjacks, jeff jarrett, NOD, DOA, new age outlaws,
>shamrock, rock, ahmed johnson. i'm surprised they didn't bleep
>out tyson looking at the camera and calling stone cold a
>"faggot" to end the show. lol
>

I can't get it to open on my xbox. It gives me 'unrecognized password or username'. But it works on my computer and iphone pretty solid. This Legends of Wrestling shit is tight. Foley, Gene, PS Hayes, Pat Patterson, Dusty, etc...loving it. Live feed is pretty much money. Old shows are still a little tender but clearly better.

This shit is somehow more awesome than I expected. And I expected to love it.

Jimaveli

  

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92. "They sent out an email, Xbox is down til Monday"
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107. "aight...I'm using the PS3 now.."
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I've gone ahead and rolled with the PS3 version of the app. Shit is working great with streaming shows as well as the old stuff. And this is in a room where I know I have wifi connection limitations at times. Straight up time of my life status over here...

  

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90. "Batista opened Smackdown with the most boring monologue ever. "
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Holy shit was that the worst promo I've seen in ages. The whole thing was just painful. He tried to channel is final heel run before he left, but it was the golf hat? Seriously?

Then the match with Dolph...yikes... that was the first match in years where Dolph couldn't make his opponent look like a million bucks.

Dave is awful, just awful.

I can't wait for a match with Brock.

  

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91. "Agreed, that was pretty painful"
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I got a lot of laughs out of that tank top/golf hat combo though.

  

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93. "WWE edited the chants too"
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They were chanting We Want Ziggler during that but it was edited out, Dolph sent a tweet today thanking the fans despite it being edited.

  

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94. "I want the real story on why he's getting screwed so bad"
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Not that bullshit about the radio interview where he kind-of-but-not-really shot on Orton. There's got to be some other layer to this.

  

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95. "Backstage WWE is some high school girl's locker room level shit"
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I doubt there is 1 individual story as much as the people who have all the weight have decided that they don't want Ziggler pushed.

Same powers that decided as uninteresting as Sheamus is that he will always be involved and get to win a RR and beat Daniel Bryan in 9 seconds at WM.

Ziggler probably doesn't kiss the right ass and that's all it takes.

  

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97. "Maybe he fucked Steph too, lol"
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For real, I can't call it. Maybe it's as simple as someone else said, he doesn't kiss the right asses.


"I halfway hope people put "btw, rappers lie and shit" on CD covers, like a parental advisory sticker." - OKP Villain

www.twitter.com/lexlamont

  

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96. "The Punk thing has gotta be a work."
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Just reflecting on this.

  

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98. "Dont know if it was all along, but I think they're gonna make it one tom..."
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99. "Yeah, just saw that. "
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If I give Creative a lot of credit, then this is the start of a drawn-out storyline mixing legit and kayfabe about Punk's contract status and an ugly feud with Vince/Authority, possibly involving a new Punk-led stable.

If I don't give Creative a lot of credit...

  

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100. "I hope he returns w/"This Fire Burns" as his theme song"
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That shit went hard and was my favorite theme.

  

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101. "Creative sucks. expect the worst."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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102. "It's a shoot that became, or will become, a work"
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Y'all's favorite David "Masked Man" Shoemaker will claim it was a work all along, though, because "the WWE knows that you know what they're doing and are playing off of your knowledge and turning you into marks for the product without you even knowing it"

Or whatever other claptrap bullshit he'll cook up to cop pleas for HHH and Kreative™

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103. "Oh the anger! My goodness!"
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104. "Nope"
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Shoemaker is full of shit on occasion, though, especially when he tries to give HHH credit for "being ahead of the audience" in terms of Kreative™

Never mind that it's Vince who is still in charge there

If anyone wants to see what HHH's version of what WWE would actually look like, then go watch that NXT ArRival show, which was damn good

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105. "I hope his music hits followed by the sound of a gavel"
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"I'm sorry, Chicago, but I have some bad news for you..."

  

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106. "Ooo I've gotta say that would be fun"
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108. "Fans are gonna do their best to take over the show"
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Vince/Trips & them should do their best to tell them to fuck off.

  

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109. "I expect to get annoyed with this crowd tomorrow"
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They're going to be so smugly and obnoxiously proud of themselves to the point I expect it to be an unfunny distraction.

  

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110. "Yeah I was all into the new, fed up WWE Universe"
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Until they started doing this shit just to do it. If they wanted to do it right they should have reserved their chanting to when the product was actually shitty and what nobody wanted, but they ended up doing it just to be dicks.

  

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112. "yep"
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>Until they started doing this shit just to do it. If they
>wanted to do it right they should have reserved their chanting
>to when the product was actually shitty and what nobody
>wanted, but they ended up doing it just to be dicks.

It ruins the efforts of those who chant to blow up shit at the 'right' times.

Going counter-culture just to be countering is lame shit.

Having written that, these muthas better get this shit right soon with Mania approaching or they're gonna get THAT show hijacked. And that is something they can't gloss over or say 'screw y'all and what you want..we're right about this thing of ours'.

I'm watching early 2000s WCW/WCW --> WWF shit. I'm still wondering how 2 companies are going to ruin Goldbert multiple times in a 5 year span.

Jimaveli

  

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113. "that'd be some quality fuckery."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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115. "If they do that, them cats in Chicago might literally riot, b."
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Okay, maybe not, but it would be a nice way to *try* to get some serious heat on Barrett

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111. "WWE Network - PS3..."
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Since about Thursday, things appear to be running pretty solid. And I've watched about 10 hours of the Network on my PS3...nerdout time of my life shit forreal...

I'm keyed in on the early 2000s...end of WCW specifically. I'm after Benoit and them left so it is wild how obvious it is that shit is over with even a year before it was actually over. And yeah...I know...blown spots all over the place, terrible finishes, small ass ring for even kinda big dudes, dudes from ECW stuck and fucked over, old legends ruining their legacies with every appearance, dumpster fire material all the way, etc. But there was pockets of intentional comedy as well as solid wrestling. DDP comes to mind. The shit with him and Kanyon? Hell yeah...it is still insane how fucked up the heel/face alignments were. The old crusty dudes who half-assed matches and openly won/kept/manipulated their spots backstage were the faces and the young cats who busted tail were the heels? In the main program!? WTF!? And I still don't know what was up with Scott Steiner..I'm guessing he was legit insane...like Savage during the 80s but worse with less management in place.

I'm even more terrified of seeing the stuff right after WCW died and got absorbed. I'm assuming greatness is hiding in there even if the gist is that WWE fucked off major chunks of that transition dramatically.

Yes...I've seen the Sid injury. Yes...it still looks as terrible as anything ever not involving necks in wrestling.

That 2000 Bash at the Beach shoot with Russo on Hogan...oh shit yo. I could imagine there was some workiness to it, but good lord was that crazy. Funny how Booker T/Jeff Jarrett were at least 15 years into their careers and were being treated like 'up and comers'...the more things change...yes, I'm thinking about our guy American Dragon here...

Side note/perv tawk...WCW had the best collection of chicks looks-wise like ever. Pamela Paulshock, Torrey Wilson, Stacey, DAFFNEY, the chicks with Steiner, the sister with The Cat, Kimberly...gees! Don't make me argue with folks about Daffney..she had excellent cakes and she was holding up top too..and it was obvious then and now watching her that she's bangin..goth, squirrelly, or whatever. I've been loving on her...

Jimaveli

>I'm gonna go ahead and assume that the reason why I can't get
>this WWE Network to work is that there are a crapload of
>people trying to watch at the same time, and not that this
>shit is an abject failure. Signed up on WWE.com, and get
>"Media Error: Video Not Available" on EVERY video I click to
>watch. Tried to log into it on the PS3, and get "Account Not
>Recognized" when I put in my login info. I'll give this a
>couple of weeks to work out the kinks, but if this is how this
>is gonna always be, looks like we might not get to see
>Wrestlemania this year if the only place to watch it is on the
>Network.....
>
>
>
>
>You gon' live forever
>Whether you want to or not
>Some of us gon' end up holy
>Some of us gon' end up hot.....

  

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114. "Yeah, mine has been running flawlessly...."
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You gon' live forever
Whether you want to or not
Some of us gon' end up holy
Some of us gon' end up hot.....

  

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116. "The 2000 Russo "shoot" on Hogan (paraphrased from memory)"
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HULK HOGAN YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT YOU'RE ONLY GOING INTO BUSINESS FOR YOURSELF YOU PIECE OF SHIT YOU USED YOUR CREATIVE CONTROL YOU PIECE OF SHIT AND I'M SICK OF THE POLITICS AND THE BULLSHIT YOU PIECE OF SHIT SO I'M GOING TO GIVE THE SPOTLIGHT TO JEFF JARRETT AND BOOKER T YOU PIECE OF SHIT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN BUSTING THEIR ASS IN THIS GODDAMN RING EVERY GODDAMN NIGHT YOU PIECE OF SHIT AND THEY GET THE OPPORTUNITY UNLIKE YOU HOGAN YOU PIECE OF SHIT


*repeat for, like, 5 minutes*

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117. "I watched No Way Out 2001 last night"
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I mean you really can't overstate how talent-rich this period was. The marquee matches of the show:

The Rock v Kurt Angle for the WWF Championship
The Dudley Boys v Edge and Christian v Kane and Undertaker
Stone Cold v Triple H 2 of 3 falls grudge match (1st fall match, 2nd fall street fight, 3rd fall cage)

I mean...what? This was all ON THE SAME SHOW. And Benoit was still on the roster, and Eddie Guerrero, and Chris Jericho!!! Talent for days.

The show is fantastic. EVERYBODY IS ROAD WARRIORS OVER.

Some notes:

- The Austin/Hunter 2 of 3 falls match is as brutal and "old school" as anything I can remember from that era. Slow, mechanical, physical, beautiful. Austin comes out hot for the first 10 minutes but Hunter eventually takes control for most of the rest of the match- a full 30 more minutes. This is FORESHADOWING; Austin's been gone for a year and both Rock and Hunter are white-hot here. The look on his face as he exits the ring is telling, and it's a welcome addition to the context that leads to Austin making a deal with Vince headed into WM 17.

- Kurt Angle...guys Kurt Angle was a MASTER worker with the ability and timing of a 12 year veteran. Except at about this time he'd wrestled for like 3 years! My goodness. That cornball red white and blue shit was so so so over. He'd later evolve into a more bloodthirsty MMA-inspired tactician, and that was fine too. But white bread American value-touting Kurt Angle was a BOSS.

  

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118. "Outside of main event picture they are almost at that level now"
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Nobody they have compares on an Ausitn/Rock level because having 2 of the best ever peaking at the same time is pretty great.

And WM X7 is the best WM ever not only because of the talent but because of great booking and writing which is lacking today. They could have a card almost as entertaining as X7 (Minus the great Rock vs Austin feud) this year but are just making so many wrong decisions.

With those caveats though, I was trying to explain this era to someone who doesn't watch recently, and while the main event picture is pretty fucked (although a potential for a returning Punk vs Bryan feud at some point is always exciting), there are more ready to burst into superstar young guys on the roster now than ever, probably including that era.

This era was also hurt by the fact that guys like Edge who were supposed to be on Cena's level today had his career cut short.

So many upper midcarders, midcarders and NXT guys who you can see future superstar in, hopefully in a few years we are looking at another boom of wrestling.

  

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119. "I totally agree. Hate to give Triple H credit, but it's due. "
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It was really dark there for a minute when it was essentially the John Cena and friends show. And the "talent" they were pushing was just so uninspiring - Swagger, Miz, Kennedy, Del Rio, Khali...

they really got behind some guys that just flat out SUCKED.

But you look at what's on the horizon and it's hard to not think we're on the brink of something really special; Reigns, Ambrose, Rollins, Cody Rhodes, Wyatt, Big E, Sheamus, Cesaro, and Bryan of course. That's GREAT talent right there that's on the cusp of taking over for good.

  

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125. "don't start me..."
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On the brilliance of Austin's turn and the way he handled it IN-RING...especially at WM17. It was excellent...it was like Hogan's turn but far more nuanced than just a 'holy crap' shock moment. It is a shame that the crowd didn't really roll with it even after months of set-up and selling to allow WWE to wallow in Austin's in-ring psychological greatness for a while...he was back as regular SCSA a year later going against the nWo at WM x8. At least they went back to it with the 2-man power trip after a while (I can't wait for that). Folks need to remember what a hand Austin played in helping Benoit and Jericho after the initial Invasion stuff was over (and WCW/ECW had been squashed thorougly). Hunter too, but more for Benoit than Y2J.

I've watched chunks of WMs 17, 18, and 19. Good lord were those mofos (Austin and Rock) over. And Hogan showed a slew of ass for Rocky at x8 even with the crowd in his hands after he had basically tried to kill Rock in the lead-up to the match...hell...even Jim Rawse was copping pleas and glossing over it...and it was great even with no flips, tables, planchas, etc. It was a big difference between that and what he did vs Kidman during the 'New Blood' era in WCW. Anyway, I think that had to play a hand in helping get things back to sanity in the ring. I'm noticing far too much crowd fighting, table spots, weapons, etc..in big matches.

I'll certainly continue my research, but I'm gonna go ahead and assume Mania 17 (2001...right before WCW infiltration, ECW was already pretty much there) is the best one ever overall (Angle/Benoit, Hardys/Dudleys/E&C TLC, Austin/Rock 2, Taker/HHH 1, etc). That Mania 15-20 run was pretty silly in terms of crazy good matches and an absurd cluster of talent all in the same place at the same time near and around their primes. Imagine if Bret didn't get screwed...or maybe if he didn't get kicked in the head by Goldy. Having him and/or Sting in the Invasion angle? Curtains!

Jimaveli: haha @ Road Warriors over...that's OVER!

>I mean you really can't overstate how talent-rich this period
>was. The marquee matches of the show:
>
>The Rock v Kurt Angle for the WWF Championship
>The Dudley Boys v Edge and Christian v Kane and Undertaker
>Stone Cold v Triple H 2 of 3 falls grudge match (1st fall
>match, 2nd fall street fight, 3rd fall cage)
>
>I mean...what? This was all ON THE SAME SHOW. And Benoit was
>still on the roster, and Eddie Guerrero, and Chris Jericho!!!
>Talent for days.
>
>The show is fantastic. EVERYBODY IS ROAD WARRIORS OVER.
>
>Some notes:
>
>- The Austin/Hunter 2 of 3 falls match is as brutal and "old
>school" as anything I can remember from that era. Slow,
>mechanical, physical, beautiful. Austin comes out hot for the
>first 10 minutes but Hunter eventually takes control for most
>of the rest of the match- a full 30 more minutes. This is
>FORESHADOWING; Austin's been gone for a year and both Rock and
>Hunter are white-hot here. The look on his face as he exits
>the ring is telling, and it's a welcome addition to the
>context that leads to Austin making a deal with Vince headed
>into WM 17.
>
>- Kurt Angle...guys Kurt Angle was a MASTER worker with the
>ability and timing of a 12 year veteran. Except at about this
>time he'd wrestled for like 3 years! My goodness. That
>cornball red white and blue shit was so so so over. He'd later
>evolve into a more bloodthirsty MMA-inspired tactician, and
>that was fine too. But white bread American value-touting Kurt
>Angle was a BOSS.

  

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129. "RE: WWE Network - PS3..."
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>PS3...nerdout time of my life shit forreal...

^^^^^

  

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120. "Canceling today."
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Free trial runs out tonight, and still no 360.

Pitiful.

  

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121. "if you really want it, you should leverage that to your advantage."
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126. "They said they aren't extending the free trials."
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Even after I pointed out that the shit DOES NOT WORK. So I canceled. If I want to watch on my desktop, I'll just torrent. Their loss.

  

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122. "it still doesn't work on any Microsoft systems???"
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i haven't tried on Xbox One or 360...works great on PS4, Apple TV, and my PS3...

  

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124. "I don't think it's available at all on Xbox One yet"
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127. "They sent this email Friday:"
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"We are working aggressively to address the login issue for Xbox users and expect to have it resolved by this Monday, March 3, if not sooner."

Today is Monday, March 3. No fix in sight.

  

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123. "Temporarily canceling mine as well"
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Having no issues with the streaming channel at all, but constant stops and starts with the on-demand stuff.

Everyone else I know running it on PS3 seems to be having no problems. Maybe it's just my old ass machine. Netflix runs fine on it, no problems playing games online, but try to load up some old WCW PPV and it'll freeze ten times before the first match is over.

  

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128. "one week in -- what are the PPV(s) you've watched that you'd slept on?"
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(man all the rain this past weekend provided the perfect opp. to grab a beer and pless *play*)

mine...

1990 great american bash. i was always a bigger wwf fan growing up than i was DUBYA-CEE-DUBYA, but...

- brian pillman's dropkick. wow...just wow. RIP
- lol @ hairy ass dutch mantel no-selling throughout his entire match to a much stronger powerhouse face in doug furnas.
- vader's debut. never realized how much japanese influence he brought with him back to the states. the samurai headdress, the salute ritual before entering the ring.
- steiner bros vs. the freebirds. lol
- paul e. dangerously managing mean mark callous. MARK OUT CITY
- the heel, BLACK tag team champs managed by a do-ragged teddy long getting a pop after the W. man i used to love when doom when punish the jobber team even after the pinfall.
- jim ross was so f'in sharp back then. word to gordon solie too.
- sting vs flair. i rewound the finish about 5 times. holy shit @ the crowd.

it was a trip watching all them dudes cut their teeth working for turner, and then move on to the big leagues to work for vince.


  

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130. "haha...word..."
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I'm not sure I'm ready for the comedy of the late-80s and early-90s WCW stuff...especially after wallowing in the early 2000s..aka the festival of chairshots, brawling everywhere all the time, video game suplexes, chokeslams, powerbombs, piledrivers, table spots, the Hardys and E&C being in-shape Foleys, lucha/cruiser magic, etc. I'm assuming I'm gonna see a lot of 'really!?' offense, an outlandish amounts of stalling/resting, bad dropkicks, etc. Of course, this'll be mixed in with some excellent power guys, a few stiff/awesome Japan dudes (Vader/Muta) and Flair killing it with the storytelling no matter who he was in there with. I haven't seen some of that stuff in about 10 years.

I remember Muta as basically god in NWA...spitting on folks and having it be sold like pepper spray to the face, killer elbows, and that moonsault.

I AM ready for Paul E and 'Mean Mark' Taker..I need that in my life.

I also can't wait to roll up on Royal Rumble 1992 so I can enjoy Heenan and Gorilla going at it over Flair going full Flair in a WWF environment to pull that rumble out of his ass.

I grew up with both WWF and NWA but Midsouth Wrestling used to BE being in Houston, and I basically lived for wrestling on TBS Saturday evenings, so I had a lot of 'the heels are crazy, awesome, and dirty...they are gonna cheat before, during, and after every match and win at least enough to keep you guessing' to wrap my mind around as a kid in the 80s. WWF was almost a joke to me back then cuz Hulk would stay winning in situations where the heel would've easily won in NWA. Sting and Luger would 'hulk up', throw some clotheslines/back body drops/press slames, then get hit with brass knuckles or eat a shady rollup of some kind a few minutes later. And it was great.

Jimaveli: Fair to Flair

>(man all the rain this past weekend provided the perfect opp.
>to grab a beer and pless *play*)
>
>mine...
>
>1990 great american bash. i was always a bigger wwf fan
>growing up than i was DUBYA-CEE-DUBYA, but...
>
>- brian pillman's dropkick. wow...just wow. RIP
>- lol @ hairy ass dutch mantel no-selling throughout his
>entire match to a much stronger powerhouse face in doug
>furnas.
>- vader's debut. never realized how much japanese influence he
>brought with him back to the states. the samurai headdress,
>the salute ritual before entering the ring.
>- steiner bros vs. the freebirds. lol
>- paul e. dangerously managing mean mark callous. MARK OUT
>CITY
>- the heel, BLACK tag team champs managed by a do-ragged teddy
>long getting a pop after the W. man i used to love when doom
>when punish the jobber team even after the pinfall.
>- jim ross was so f'in sharp back then. word to gordon solie
>too.
>- sting vs flair. i rewound the finish about 5 times. holy
>shit @ the crowd.
>
>it was a trip watching all them dudes cut their teeth working
>for turner, and then move on to the big leagues to work for
>vince.
>
>
>

  

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131. "it's like the '92 rumble gets better with each viewing"
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i'd always heard that wwe tweaked the audio when sid dumped hogan over the top rope, so it sounded like more people were booing instead of cheering... but it sounded like plenty of cheers to me.

edit: people had clearly started to tire of hogan (see: undertaker's pop when he pinned him at survivor series a couple months earlier).

  

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138. "The little kids crying though, THAT is gold"
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>edit: people had clearly started to tire of hogan (see:
>undertaker's pop when he pinned him at survivor series a
>couple months earlier).

  

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192. "RE: Backlash 2003 / Backlash 2004"
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Backlash 2003: Heel Hollywood Rock vs (finally showing up after WCW died) Goldberg

Rock was bringing the selling and the 'not wanting to admit he's scared but he's totally scared' heel style. Goldberg...well...he was stopping by for a year to make some $. But he's big enough that he still looked big, the spears were excellent and the jackhammer as a finisher isn't exactly a burning hammer, but I still totally buy it. Rock was doing a freebird amount of hotdogging and stalling...it was great.

Also...HEEL RAPPING AND CUSSING JOHN CENA vs Full-time wrestling Brock Lesnar: they got stupid crossed up/lost in the middle of this match on a few irish whips and reversals, but still...it was great. Brock was throwing Cena around and Cena was cheating, cussing, using weapons, clowning the crowd, etc, etc. Good lord, heel Cena this summer vs Yes Man (champ) would be excellent Summerfest 2014 material.

Backlash 2004:

Well...there's some crazy heel/face and people alignments on this card. The main event...HBK vs HHH vs *guy who doesn't exist* (yes, Benoit). They ran back the WM20 main event and it was still on. It WAS jarring seeing Woman and the kids in the crowd. Both matches were awesome...and physical. CHOPS! GERMANS! This was in Canada so when HBK slapped a sharpshooter on Benoit WITH HEBNER AS REF, the crowd lost it...totally lost it. It is kinda lame that the underlying tone of the match from Lawler (he was still basically a heel perv announcer at this time) was that HHH and HBK were trying to have a match and Benoit (the champ) was kinda just there on the scene/in the way of their match. And it IS kinda crazy how short/small he looked vs HHH. But HHH and HBK showed a gang of ass for him...totally sweet.

Jimaveli

>(man all the rain this past weekend provided the perfect opp.
>to grab a beer and pless *play*)
>
>mine...
>
>1990 great american bash. i was always a bigger wwf fan
>growing up than i was DUBYA-CEE-DUBYA, but...
>
>- brian pillman's dropkick. wow...just wow. RIP
>- lol @ hairy ass dutch mantel no-selling throughout his
>entire match to a much stronger powerhouse face in doug
>furnas.
>- vader's debut. never realized how much japanese influence he
>brought with him back to the states. the samurai headdress,
>the salute ritual before entering the ring.
>- steiner bros vs. the freebirds. lol
>- paul e. dangerously managing mean mark callous. MARK OUT
>CITY
>- the heel, BLACK tag team champs managed by a do-ragged teddy
>long getting a pop after the W. man i used to love when doom
>when punish the jobber team even after the pinfall.
>- jim ross was so f'in sharp back then. word to gordon solie
>too.
>- sting vs flair. i rewound the finish about 5 times. holy
>shit @ the crowd.
>
>it was a trip watching all them dudes cut their teeth working
>for turner, and then move on to the big leagues to work for
>vince.
>
>
>

  

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132. "it's not quite Bad News but i'll take it."
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they didn't waste any time at all lmao.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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133. "WWE messing with this crowd is gonna be great"
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The batista vs Bryan match is perfect

Crowd wanted to turn their back to Batista when he was on, but now they can't with him fighting Bryan.

  

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134. "Heyman sitting in the ring, legs crossed, is a nice touch "
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135. "Usos win the tag belts"
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Surprised it happened on Raw, but I'll take it. They've been killing it for months.

  

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137. "Ya, not sure why they don't get a WM moment"
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Guess they don't want to take up any of the WM card with a tag match

  

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136. "Holy shit @ Cesaro catching Big E midair on his shoulder"
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like he's a cruiserweight

  

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139. "Holy shit Seth Rollins"
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140. "Imagine if WWE worked to make crowds happy every week"
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141. "the swagger interference angle is pretty good"
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the cesaro turn is coming.

  

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142. "damn, why can't all the matches be like this?"
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Bodies flying everywhere. All kinds of energy in the ring and in the crowd.

  

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143. "dammit Rollins."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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146. "That was pretty great"
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144. "This first hour has been incredible!"
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145. "Farewell to the Shield, the most interesting faction since the 90s."
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Gonna really miss those boys. It did EXACTLY what it was supposed to do, and it did it without a proven commodity in the unit at the beginning. This was the Nexus done right with guys who were believable and up for the job. Godspeed boys, thanks for the ride.

  

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147. "Well put"
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264. "a little premature don't you think?"
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"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

  

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148. ""now i have the opportunity to show my daughters some of their"
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daddy's greatest matches, and why he is one of the greatest superstars in WWE history"

*PUKING*

  

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151. "He is though...."
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153. "I thought that was about to be an Authority heel promo"
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Stephanie's good at that mockingly pretend to be sincere, but really being as condescending and arrogant as hell thing. I thought that's where that was headed. Would've been much better.

  

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154. "right?"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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149. "I could care less about Christian vs Sheamus"
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Why do they put this match on every week?

I'd rather watch Orton vs Batista I think

  

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150. "This crowd couldn't care less"
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But I'd watch Sheamus wrestle a coat rack. As long as he's not joking around on the mic, I'm down.

  

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167. "Which fucking sucks for a couple of reasons. "
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To me, at least. I dunno how you feel about Christian and Sheamus. I love both of them. I think they're excellent performers and think they've shown excellent chemistry thus far.

The problems?

First, there's no reason whatsoever to care about this match. I can't speak for why you don't care, but I know I'm not invested because there's simply no good reason it should exist. What's the story? A missed Brogue kick? That's a nice way to build to extreme rules. For Mania though? For two top shelf performers? Nah. I like the pairing though and expect a pretty good match out of them.

The second problem is that the Elimination Chamber showed us what a scene stealing, show stopping match we should be getting instead with Cesaro and Sheamus. They could have run a recruitment angle. Say Zeb's got an Irish ancestor who came here and worked his ass off and see's a lot of Great Uncle Hoolihan in Sheamus, or whatever. They have a match at Mania, and Sheamus becomes a Real American if he loses. Sheamus goes over, Swagger and Zeb jump him, Sheamus makes the save, and a small Mania moment is had when Cesaro officially turns face to rousing applause and We The People chants.

Whatever the story is, Cesaro/Sheamus is money. Add that to the inevitable Shield three way and Bray/Cena and that's a hell of an undercard brimming with an explosive youth movement.

Still, Sheamus/Christian should make for a good match, just not the money match the obvious pairing is.

  

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174. "Christian is DDP..."
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in today's landscape with basically NO push. He goes out of his way to have awesome little reversal sequences and twists on obvious spots (eating the Sheamus chest clobber from the inside). The problem is...his finisher takes entirely too much cooperation and set-up time compared to damn near anything else finisher-wise on the show. And since his finisher has basically never won an important match, folks don't buy it or him...at all. 'Never' = in the last couple years. He basically wrestles a nerdy main event wrestler style without main event push, placement, or attention. And again...folks don't sweat that finisher.

Besides that..YES! Sheamus/Cesaro needs to happen. Hossathon 2014 fo sho. Those dudes would beat the hell out of each other and it would run/murder the rest of the undercard if not the whole thing.

It really is excellent how much Zeb and them are over. And it is almost all an in-ring accomplishment. Giant Swing = cheers anywhere on anybody (because it is awesome and even the most idiotic crowd members respect legit strength on display).

Jimaveli

>To me, at least. I dunno how you feel about Christian and
>Sheamus. I love both of them. I think they're excellent
>performers and think they've shown excellent chemistry thus
>far.
>
>The problems?
>
>First, there's no reason whatsoever to care about this match.
>I can't speak for why you don't care, but I know I'm not
>invested because there's simply no good reason it should
>exist. What's the story? A missed Brogue kick? That's a nice
>way to build to extreme rules. For Mania though? For two top
>shelf performers? Nah. I like the pairing though and expect a
>pretty good match out of them.
>
>The second problem is that the Elimination Chamber showed us
>what a scene stealing, show stopping match we should be
>getting instead with Cesaro and Sheamus. They could have run a
>recruitment angle. Say Zeb's got an Irish ancestor who came
>here and worked his ass off and see's a lot of Great Uncle
>Hoolihan in Sheamus, or whatever. They have a match at Mania,
>and Sheamus becomes a Real American if he loses. Sheamus goes
>over, Swagger and Zeb jump him, Sheamus makes the save, and a
>small Mania moment is had when Cesaro officially turns face to
>rousing applause and We The People chants.
>
>Whatever the story is, Cesaro/Sheamus is money. Add that to
>the inevitable Shield three way and Bray/Cena and that's a
>hell of an undercard brimming with an explosive youth
>movement.
>
>Still, Sheamus/Christian should make for a good match, just
>not the money match the obvious pairing is.

  

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152. "these niggas made a scooby doo dvd lmao."
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my lil cousin would love that shit

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155. "goddamn the heat is off the charts right now."
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156. "HHH seems a little rattled, LOL"
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Tripping over his words and everything.

  

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157. "I see no way in which he fights for the title at Wrestlemania. None."
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232. "See it yet?"
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158. "Lol. Well done, Cesaro"
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159. "That segment was great"
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"Now help your brother up."

  

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160. "ditch Rusev but keep Lana"
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goddamn she's fine.

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161. "WTF is going on? It's 11:08 and we're at commercial"
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Someone screwed up the timing somewhere

  

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162. "Sorry guys, we're getting the WM none of us want"
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163. "Them Dirt Sheets got us again"
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164. "I'm betting WWE leaked misinformation to spike ratings. "
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that last quarter will probably score big

  

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165. "F CM Punk"
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166. "I seriously hope Punk is taking a page out of the Pillman playbook here...."
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Part of me figures, that's the whole point. They put Paul out there to fuck with the Chicago crowd and hopefully take the wind out of their sails and save the show from potential disaster.

I also figure it served as a great way to add some substance to Brock's match with Taker.

It did both of those things perfectly well. Brilliantly, even.

Here's where I start to wonder:

I have a hard time seeing the WWE utilizing Punk so strongly, right down to the music, Paul sitting cross legged, and reference to Punk's Pipe Bomb, if there wasn't a plan in place for his return.

To that end, I give them credit for making me wonder, if only just a little.

In a perfect world, Punk would be a modern day Bryan Pillman, working everyone to an incredible degree nobody thought possible in the modern era. This gives way to the second thing that lends me one sliver of hope that he's planning on coming back:

Punks complete silence up to now. Not a single word has been spoken by him publicly on the matter up to this point. The previous worked shoot was obvious, since he had the title and we all know Vince wasn't about to allow that shit to go down after what the stunt he pulled with Flair.

In the end, he knows he's built some equity with Vince. He knows he can walk right back into his spot. Part of me wonders if Punk doesn't realize how poetic that would be. Brock, Rock, Batista, Jericho, hell, even Taker- These guys take off for long periods and then walk right in for top billing and a big pay day at the expense of young wrestlers that could use the seasoning, screen time, and pay check. After all, if those guys can do it, why can't the single longest WWE World title holder in two and a half decades do it as well? If Dwayne, Brock, Chris, Dave, and even Mark can pull that shit year after year while guys like Punk continually works hurt and can't get a good Mania spot that doesn't involve Vince's Doofus Son In Law inserting himself into hot wrestlers stories like clockwork...... this is a good way to throw it in Vince's face.

I know, I know, it's a pipe dream, pun intended. A fan can wonder though, can't he?

  

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168. "The Shield is basically The Rockers with three Shawn Michaels "
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This shit ain't Evolution, with two raw ass youngsters getting the rub from established legends.

This shit feels like The Dudleys, Edge & Christian, and The Hardies, except each member of The Shield embodies all six guys. I know, I know, pump the brakes, right? Not so fast.

Rollins pretty much ate everyone's soul tonight. Remember last week, when he came from out of fucking NOWHERE to pull a suicide dive that would make Taker shit himself. I haven't seen Bryan yet, but that opening segment tonight was fucking ridiculous.

Every time I watch The Shield I'm in awe of something and it feels like "HOLY SHIT, THAT WAS THE GREATEST THING EVER!!!!!" and it NEVER feels like hyperbole. It always feels like a legit claim that will hold up to scrutiny. I seriously can't recall the last time I saw a group that was ALWAYS money ALL the damn time, and this shit isn't even being done with tired ass spots. The Superman Punch, Reigns entire demeanor, his drop kick outside the ring, Rollins doing shit that would make Jeff Hardy and Edge jealous, and Ambrose bringing the most batshit character and ring presence we've seen since Cactus Jack...

That's all in one group.

And you know what's crazy? I haven't even touched on The Wyatt Family yet. They're not as individually brilliant as The Shield, but they're a remarkable unit in their own right. It's crystal clear who the breakout star is there, but the collective energy of these two units together+the crumbling shield story is making for some of the most compelling moments since the attitude era.

Between these two groups and Bryan... it's clear why fucking EVERY arena hate's Dave's guts. It's not just Bryan. WWE has a special mix right now if they wanted to pull the trigger. Remember when Cody and Goldust were the most exciting thing to see every night? Shit, the Usos are coming into their own. Cesaro is on beast mode.

Fuck Dave. Let Orton and Cena stick around the top awhile longer while these young studs continue to simmer so they can help with the transition by passing that torch..... but this needs to be the last Mania where Vince relies on post-Attitude era stars to sell the show. This year is clearly the time to end that practice, and hopefully they realize it.

  

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169. "AND ANOTHER THING! Bryan is THEE PERFECT ambassador for the PG era"
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I dunno why the fuck these dickheads don't grasp that.

Bryan is the PG equivalent to Austin.

How fucking lucky are they that he's fallen into their lap like this?
Dude could easily be sitting in TNA wrestling Kazarian or some shit.
How do they not pull the trigger on this? It's a fucking gift from heaven to have a guy like this in the PG era.

What's funny is how tired everyone is of Cena's golly-shucks boy scout impersonation. Meanwhile, Bryan looks like he could build a campfire, suck the venom out of a snake bite, and forage for the nights supper, acts like it, AND PEOPLE FUCKING LOVE HIM.

SMH

  

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175. "I have him listed as new Kurt Angle..."
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A guy who everyone buys as a good-good, but instead of him being packaged as a heel, he's a face...a holy shit over and beloved face. Oh...and he wrestles like a mofo and makes the top of the card better automatically.

I guess they are deadset on believing that beating HHH is an awesome gift when...get this...THE TITLE ACTUALLY MATTERS TO FOLKS RIGHT NOW! Aka we want the guys we like the most in title picture. Mission accomplished, idiots! Now put him in the title picture and let him win it.

The Shield...man...even the Wyatts...this IS some old Hardys/E&C/Dudleys shit where damn near everyone involved deserves cracks at higher spots on the card ASAP after the breakups or even without it. I'd love it if The Shield stayed together AS they moved up the card, started damn near winning titles, etc. And have one of them beating Bryan for the title and loving themselves a little 'too much' be the final straw for the breakup/no turning back betrayal/whatever.

If the WWE ignores everyone and rolls with Orton/Batista at Mania AND BATISTA WINS, they could stick the title on damn anyone we like after that and gain good will. Roman Reigns superman punching and spearing Dave on the Raw after Mania would rule my world..I say it'd rule my world.

Jimaveli

>I dunno why the fuck these dickheads don't grasp that.
>
>Bryan is the PG equivalent to Austin.
>
>How fucking lucky are they that he's fallen into their lap
>like this?
>Dude could easily be sitting in TNA wrestling Kazarian or some
>shit.
>How do they not pull the trigger on this? It's a fucking gift
>from heaven to have a guy like this in the PG era.
>
>What's funny is how tired everyone is of Cena's golly-shucks
>boy scout impersonation. Meanwhile, Bryan looks like he could
>build a campfire, suck the venom out of a snake bite, and
>forage for the nights supper, acts like it, AND PEOPLE FUCKING
>LOVE HIM.
>
>SMH

  

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176. "there is a way to keep the Shield together or at least reinvent them."
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it seems like they've never been hotter and that the whole of the crowd really appreciates what the Shield has become. Why not take advantage of this popularity a little longer?

Reigns could feud with Ambrose to take the US Title. The cool thing to come out of that is once Reigns is US champ you're looking at a beautiful Summer program between he and Big E to unify the 2nd tier titles. Rollins bides his time by Reigns' side until Reigns is the unified US/IC champ and then Rollins turns heel on Reigns. Rollins beats Reigns for the IC title sometime around Survivor Series, Reigns charges off full steam towards the Royal Rumble,Wrestlemania 31, and the WWE title.

OR Rollins goes after Big E, Reigns goes after Ambrose, the Shield evolves into a pair with each member holding a 2nd tier singles strap. One Raw when they refuse to take Hunter's orders he pits them in a unification match against each other. From that Rollins and Reigns could still go through the process I laid out above.

  

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170. "For everyone who is saying/thinking FUCK CM PUNK!"
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Just remember this... There is no way in hell we get a RAW that good if CM Punk doesn't walk away... We don't get Shield vs Wyatts (I called that last week btw, not on here)... We don't get all of the other quality matches (outside of like 2)... We don't get Cena's promo at the end instead of opening the show... This RAW was one of the best RAW's in a very long time and it's all because CM Punk left...

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181. "LeBron dropped 61 last night thanks to CM Punk"
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171. "***deploys a sarin gas attack all over this post***"
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*SMH*

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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172. "So where do we stand with the WM main event?"
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It can't be Batista vs Orton in singles as they're both heels now so something has to change(?)

Personally, before they fully turned Batista heel, I would've replicated the WM X coin toss scenario. Have DB face HHH in the opening match on the premise that if he wins, he faces the winner of Batista/Orton in the closing match.

Batista takes the title from Orton mid-way into the event and drops it to Bryan in the finale. They could've had a big hug-off etc, and I think that would have endeared Batista to fans again, seeing that he was willing to put DB over would give him a good place to rebuild that fan base for a few months.

This doesn't really work now with Batista heel, but neither does Batista & Orton in singles so interested to know if it'll morph into a triple threat, but who's the third man??

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173. "it seems far fetched that they'd stick with the current match"
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but it seems even more far fetched that they'd randomly add Daniel Bryan to it.

  

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177. "My guess is Hogan's going to add somebody next week"
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178. "I think you might be right - he's billed for a special announcement"
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186. "Batista doing two matches in one night on WM would be too funny"
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dude would be gassed walking to the ring for the 2nd match.

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189. "haha, looks like Orton for the win in round 1 then."
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179. "Network question:"
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Is the 6 month commitment due upfront or is it $9.99 a month but cant cancel for 6 months?

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180. "the latter"
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182. ""Look, this guy is HUGE on the Internet. Our hardcore fans love him.""
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"Great," Creative responded. "Then we don't have to do shit with him ever."

Great read on why we don't matter:

http://www.sbnation.com/2014/3/4/5468468/wwe-pro-wrestling-stories-creative

The cruelest thing I can tell a passionate, dedicated smark is that the more he knows the less he matters to WWE. The smark is the one person the company knows will be watching the show every week, no matter what. They're buying the licensed merchandise to complain about it on podcasts and paying the extra $20 at TV tapings to stand in an autograph line and tell their favorite disrespected mid-carder just how he should be used in the main event. Even at the emptiest of house shows (non-televised events usually packaged as tours) we could spot the dedicated IWC member on hand to record completely meaningless* match results for one of the "insider" news sites.

  

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183. ""Congratulations on being worse than Green Bay, Chicago.""
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http://www.uproxx.com/sports/2014/03/best-worst-wwe-raw-3314-hijackbestandworst

Worst: #hijackRaw

The first thing you need to know about me is that I love pro wrestling. I love it as a thing more than I love any individual wrestler, promotion, moment or memory.

A lot of modern fandom for thing is based around who you like and why … you aren’t a Doctor Who fan, you’re a ‘Whovian,’ and on top of that it’s segmented. You’re a fan of the Tenth Doctor. You probably have a fun name for yourself and people like you. It’s less about watching and enjoying the show and about how good of a FAN you can be, and how much better of a fan you can be than the other fans, and how people who like the Eleventh Doctor are stupid and aren’t doing it right.

I run into that a lot writing this column. People show up who are Rock Fans, or CM Punk fans, and they like, support and enjoy every single thing that person does, whether it’s good or bad having no relevance to the conversation, and they’re so mad and don’t understand why you’re being so stupid and thinking too much and over-analyzing. You’re on a high horse with your PC White Knights and you’re caping up to something something and on and on. They’re in a “fandom.” Because of this, they assume that I’m in a fandom as well. I hear a lot of things like, “if Daniel Bryan did the same thing you’d think it was great,” or, “why are you still watching? All you do is bitch and complain! Do you even LIKE wrestling?”

The answer is that yes, I do like wrestling. I like it more than anything. The hook of a “Best and Worst” column is that there are Bests and Worsts. I like some stuff and I don’t like stuff, and then I write a couple of paragraphs to explain it. I rarely like or dislike something arbitrarily, and when I do, I freely admit to it. I am not the Wrestling Master or the Opinion Police and everything you’re reading here is a desperate expression of my powerful, never-ending love for the stupidest, most regressive thing in the world. If Daniel Bryan does something shitty and I think it’s such, I mention it. Remember when he started getting all sarcastic about everything? I went from “you think Daniel Bryan is infallible and make excuses for him” to “all you do is complain!” in a heartbeat. Sometimes people aren’t reading a wrestling column to find out what a random, unimportant dude thinks about the wrestling. Sometimes they’re scanning it to see if its compatible with their fandom. If it is, they pass it by. If it isn’t, they violently bump up against it to “change” it without any real will or effort, just a vague I’M TIRED OF THE WAY YOU THINK.

The second thing you need to know about me is that I use a lot of hyperbole. I use hyperbole in every thing I have ever said or done. Get it? I call things the “best match of the year” or “my favorite thing in wrestling” because in that moment, that’s how it feels. It’s fury. Bubbling, molten blood firing through my body and making my brain fire off in these weird, emotional directions.

Knowing that, my favorite thing about wrestling — sorry — is the feeling I get from a live crowd. To be more specific, I love that moment when a crowd full of weird, obsessive guys like me gets so locked into and lost in a live wrestling show that we stop being “guys on the internet” or “smart marks” or any other stupid, condescending term to describe some off-brand sect of fandom and become emotion. That’s what happens. We stop being individual people and start being a big, circular mass of emotional response.

Two examples: At Chikara’s King of Trios 2012, the trios tournament was built around two teams … the Spectral Envoy, a team of Chikara stalwarts, and Team ROH, a squad of arrogant “invading foreigners.” The Young Bucks and Mike Bennett. The easiest people in the world to boo. By the end of the third night of the best wrestling weekend I’ve ever had, the tourney came down to those two teams. We’d already been broken to the point of tears a couple of times already, so when our UL-TRA MAN-TIS chant got turned into a “dueling” chant by one lone Ring Of Honor fan (chanting “R-O-H!”) the response was quick, decisive, and organic: we chanted UL-TRA MAN-TIS over it. It was a dueling chant for Ultramantis Black and Ultramantis Black. It just happened. It was a building full of Chikara fans united in support of a wrestling story, happening in front of us in the ring.

The other example is from an ACW show in Austin last Spring. Kyle Hawk, a guy who’d been a regular but hadn’t really had the opportunity to break through, had a killer match with Davey Vega. On top of that, Hawk announced that this was going to be his last match for a while because he was leaving to fight for us in Afghanistan. He talked about his new wife and their children, and how he had a son who loved wrestling … and if the worst was to happen and he never came back, and if the BEST was to happen and that kid would grow up to be a wrestler, he asked us to give that boy the same love we’ve given him. A guy facing an uncertain future speaking all the way from the bottom of his heart. We clapped and we cried, and as he was leaving someone started singing the Star-Spangled Banner. It sounds like a cheesy moment from a shitty movie, right? But he kept singing, and someone else joined in, and soon we were all standing there with our hands over our hearts, singing the national anthem at the top of our lungs with tears in our eyes. When it was done, the place exploded with cheers. It just happened. The crowd had turned into a weird, stinking mass of love.

If you’ve gotten this far, here’s the part where I tell you how much I hated #hijackRaw.

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I was part of the crowd that YES chanted Daniel Bryan, watched him lose in 18 seconds and YESSED all the way through Randy Orton vs. Kane. That bled into the next night, which created a “movement” that eventually became a corporately-owned marketing strategy. Regardless, it just happened. We loved the guy, and we wanted to show him how much. I wasn’t a part of the Money in the Bank crowd that transformed CM Punk from a popular mid-carder into a folk hero, but it was the same idea. Their hometown guy was coming home with furious indignation, ready to take the WWE title from the walking, talking Dynasty and do whatever the hell he wanted with it. They lost their minds all night long and helped fully form one of the most unforgettable moments in WWE history. It just happened.

See what all these moments have in common?

#hijackRaw didn’t just happen. It wasn’t a Chicago crowd coming together to organically share their frustrations with Punk’s situation and what’s been happening in the WWE main-event scene … it was a guy with a Twitter account who got 10,000 followers, then got as many of them as he could to print out a sheet explaining “how” to cheer. It says to chant “this is awesome” for the Shield vs. the Wyatts, to chant “yes yes yes” for Daniel Bryan and to turn your back on The Authority. It says to chant CM PUNK over everything, but to give The Undertaker the respect he deserved. A step-by-step, numbered guide on how you should feel, what you should do and what you want to change.

It’s a purposeful corruption of the thing I love most about wrestling. It’s saying that THIS IS THE WAY YOU CHEER CORRECTLY, and frankly it didn’t even make a hell of a lot of sense. You’re going to a wrestling show featuring 10 guys you’re excited to see and want to cheer for, but the absence of one disqualifies that to the point that you want to organize a grassroots campaign to “take over” the show? As far as I can tell, you only dislike three people, and they happen to be the show’s bad guys. The show’s bad guys who are the evil bosses who run the show in a way fans don’t want to see. What are you hijacking? You’re saying to boo the heels and cheer the faces. Oh, except for one or two matches, because we hate those.

As Aaron Diaz described it, it’s “crystalized petulance.” Outrage over something they aren’t even sure exists. Outrage that comes with an easily co-opted hashtag and instruction sheets. Do I seriously need to point out how phony and soulless that is? It’s not an organic movement, it’s a crowd saying “look at us, this is what WE did.” The worst part is that that kind of attitude can excuse any positive thing on the show … I had lengthy discussions with heaps of polite strangers on Twitter who, an hour into the show, bragged about how WWE had booked a show to keep them from hijacking it. These are the same people who got routinely worked and redirected by wrestlers all night. People who chanted BORING and THIS IS AWFUL chants during Sheamus/Christian, a good f*cking wrestling match, and then counted along with the Sheamus chest forearms and the pinfalls. BUT! That was added in in post! BUT! What do you mean there isn’t “post” on a live show? That audio was probably piped in over the speakers at the arena! We HEARD it! Guess what, guys? There have been good hours of Raw before. Especially on shows in major cities a month before WrestleMania. You know what your hijack movement did? It made Paul Heyman mention CM Punk in a promo at the top of the show. That’s it. And guess what else? He was probably going to do that anyway, because they’re in Chicago.

By addressing Hijack Raw and pointing it out, WWE was able to take it from the group of sad guys attempting to perform it and made it their own. They stole your movement TO YOUR FACE. Why wouldn’t they? You paid $60 bucks or whatever to show up and boo the heels as a statement. As a POLITICAL STATEMENT AGAINST WRESTLING YOU BOOED THE HEELS. You ruined a couple of mid-card matches, and Punk’s still not here. Feeling good about yourself yet?

I like CM Punk a lot. I want him on the shows, but you have to think about it.

In real life, assuming it is not a work, your favorite wrestler and hometown guy quit the company. He wasn’t fired. He “didn’t like what they were doing with him” or “didn’t like the stories they wrote for him” and got miserable and quit. Remember back when Punk was a Ziggler-esque under-card guy who once lost the World Heavyweight Championship because he got beaten up backstage by Legacy? That guy was dropping pipe bombs about how guys like HIM needed to be in the spots occupied by guys like Cena, and how WWE needed to start focusing on wrestling instead of all this ridiculous sports entertainment. He deserved to be champion, and on all the videos and souvenir cups and on the covers of the video games. Fast forward a few years. What happened? CM Punk became John Cena. WWE started focusing on signing and spotlighting guys like Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, Antonio Cesaro, Sami Zayn. Daniel Bryan is the most popular guy on the show. CM Punk was WWE Champion — WWE Champion, the real one — for over 400 days straight. He recently stopped dating a WWE Hall of Famer so he could date the Divas Champion. He’s been on the cover of the video game and has been in every video and souvenir cup for years. But hey, he’s not happy that he’s supposed to be wrestling in one of the WrestleMania XXX main-events instead of one of the other ones so he quits?

In real life, assuming again that it’s not a work, that guy quitting is not WWE’s fault. They want him on the shows. He’s one of their most popular characters. They just launched a Network and have a Wrestling Mania coming up, they could use him. They have done EVERYTHING for Punk. They made it Punk’s show. The guy’s wrestling Brock Lesnar and victoriously caning his blood rival on top of a Hell in a Cell. POOR BABY. CM Punk is aware that Raw was in Chicago. He knows how much you want him on the show. In real life, this guy CHOSE not to be there for you. He chose to sit at home instead of “going out there and entertaining each and every one of you,” or whatever Cena would say.

In kayfabe, he’s a character who took his ball and went home. They’ve been gentle with his reasons for vanishing. They haven’t really said anything about it other than Heyman pointing the finger at “each and every one of you,” but he’s an unreliable narrator. Regardless, he’s not there, and as convinced as I’ve been since day one that Punk’s hiatus is part of the story, him not showing up in Chicago was an eyebrow-raiser. He’s CHOOSING not to do this.

The Fandom will come up with a bunch of reasons they’ve almost entirely made up about why Punk isn’t here, and why it’s still cool for him not to be. He’s tired. He got burned out. He’s injured and they just aren’t telling you. If that is the case, and Punk’s just a good dude taking a break, why are you hijacking the show to chant his name and demand his presence? Either he’s a piece of shit who doesn’t care about you, or he’s a guy dealing with some stuff who’ll be back when he’s ready. From either direction, what f*cking reason do you have to chant CM PUNK during an Usos match?

You only have one reason. It’s, “look at me, look at what I’m doing.”

CM Punk Chicago Paul Heyman

We’re all going to feel up-our-own-ass entitled from time to time, whether it’s demanding a guy who wasn’t announced for the Royal Rumble get inserted into it anyway and win or demanding the appearance of a guy who left the company for reasons you totally understand by chanting his name at the expense of others who ARE there and hurting themselves for your enjoyment. Again, I’m not telling you how to cheer for wrestling. If you’re there at all and making noise, you’re doing it right.

That said, let me tell you how you get WWE to notice you: dead silence. “Noise” and “reactions” at wrestling shows are seen as positives, whether they are in your brain when you’re delivering them or not. Do you think Stephanie McMahon went backstage last night shaking her head in disgust, wondering what she did wrong, because people chanted CM PUNK over her dialogue? Or do you think she went, “wow, I’m getting Vickie heat out there now!” Triple H has probably been smiling his ass off since last night. You are doing what they want you to do, and you’ve either gotta be fine with that (because you should be, because “being worked” is the entire point) or change your perspective. You’ve got to consider WHY you’re doing something, HOW you should be doing it and what it all actually means.

When you think about things, it’s easy to love them. If you’re in love with the process of pro wrestling, last night was a miracle. A giant “greater than” symbol on the side of the establishment. All #hijackRaw accomplished was making Raw stressful for people who didn’t deserve it.

If you skimmed to the bottom, here’s a summarization in boldface: Congratulations on being worse than Green Bay, Chicago.

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184. "I just read it. He's spot on about CM Punk. "
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His description was so accurate I'll look past the irony of this guy calling people out for circle jerking when he's quite guilty of soap-boxing himself.

  

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185. "When Stroud's on, he's absolute money."
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And he's spot on here.

It's all the other shit I got tired of.

  

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188. "aw man, can you imagine an arena filled with silence?!"
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Now that would be an incredible protest.

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187. "This reminds me of the NHL in the 90s"
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Chase casual viewers and kids, ignore the diehards. They'll come no matter what. That's one thing, but having what seems like open contempt for the diehards is another thing.

As Punk said "Vince McMahon is a multi millionaire who should be a billionaire."

  

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190. "Fortunately (unfortunately?), Vince is now in the rarefied air..."
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of billionaires:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexmorrell/2014/03/03/billionaires-2014-record-number-of-newcomers-includes-sheryl-sandberg-jan-koum-michael-kors/

"From the entertainment industry comes Vince McMahon ($1.2 billion), the third-generation wrestling promoter. McMahon was briefly a billionaire over a decade ago but this is the first time he officially joins the Forbes Billionaires ranks, thanks to his exceedingly popular World Wrestling Entertainment, which is broadcast in 150 countries."

  

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193. "STAND BACK (c) vince"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxtCTaCxDUc

  

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191. "IT ISN'T THAT BAD THOUGH"
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that's the thing. Shit is really great right now outside of that awful Batista/Orton main event. Everything else is actually really entertaining and there's more interesting characters on the roster than there's been in about 10 years.

  

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194. "I told yall that months ago. *shrugs*"
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Don't listen to me tho.

Only problem with this is, WWE doesn't truly understand a groundswell. With guys like Bryan, you gotta strike while the iron is hot and keep the momentum going; that can possibly allow them to draw new fans.

Then again, they probably look at guys like Punk (and to a smaller extent, The Miz about three years ago), who does has a fanbase but has a clear ceiling on his head as far as who he can attract, and looking at who Bryan can actually draw figure he wouldn't do much better.
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195. "No one's saying this is new information."
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It's been said time and time again here and on other forums. You're not special in that regard.

What is different is that the writer actually worked with Creative, and gave the insider perspective of something we already knew.

  

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269. "if it's something you "already knew"..."
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even though a number of people on this board were vehemently against this when I said it, and it actually made business sense, then what purpose did him even saying it do?
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196. "What limits who he can draw?"
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>and looking at who Bryan can actually draw figure
>he wouldn't do much better.

  

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270. "certain people can draw certain demographics."
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based on their look, character, etc.

Austin could bring in the rowdy hardcore crowd; a lot of them lower income white people. It definitely filled up the arenas and saved WWE but the resulting Attitude Era limited WWE's (and pro wrestling's) mainstream popularity more than it's ever did before.

Cena can attract women and kids, something that WWE really couldn't do in a major way since Hulkamania. He's got the PC look, he's willing to do any and every event WWE wants him to, and he's really smooth in interviews with the press and at charity events. Other than possibly Hulk, Cena's the best brand ambassador WWE has ever had.

Even though he was never pushed that way, Rey Mysterio was the #2 guy in WWE at one time. Those masks sell like hotcakes to kids. He's able to draw a Latino audience for the ratings and in the WWE Shop (so did Eddie Guerrero before him). And that's why he was able to become World Champion and WWE Champion even though he's only 5'3 (if that).

When you look at who can draw, and what kinds of people they can draw, you got to look at their advantages and limitations. Sure; Bryan has a strong fanbase and has been one of the best workers in the world since he was in ROH. But if all of that can't result into new money coming in for WWE, then putting him as a top guy or THE top guy won't mean any more than if he was in the mid card. Add to that he's not a big guy (I still get nightmares of how out of place and dwarfish he looked beside Rock at Raw's 1000th episode) and he doesn't have the look that WWE wants out of their guys.

The top stars WWE had proved they could bring in a new audience that was different and more lucrative than WWE had at the time. Bryan has to do the same thing. He should get that chance just like Punk and others did, but if he can't make a difference in ratings or merch, WWE will do the same thing to Bryan that they did to all the others.
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272. "RE: certain people can draw certain demographics."
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>based on their look, character, etc.
>
>Austin could bring in the rowdy hardcore crowd; a lot of them
>lower income white people. It definitely filled up the arenas
>and saved WWE but the resulting Attitude Era limited WWE's
>(and pro wrestling's) mainstream popularity more than it's
>ever did before.

Limited? WWE had more mainstream popularity then than it had since the '80s.

>Cena can attract women and kids, something that WWE really
>couldn't do in a major way since Hulkamania. He's got the PC
>look, he's willing to do any and every event WWE wants him to,
>and he's really smooth in interviews with the press and at
>charity events. Other than possibly Hulk, Cena's the best
>brand ambassador WWE has ever had.

But Cena only got a push because there was nobody else to push at the time. He was never Vince's first choice.

>When you look at who can draw, and what kinds of people they
>can draw, you got to look at their advantages and limitations.
>Sure; Bryan has a strong fanbase and has been one of the best
>workers in the world since he was in ROH. But if all of that
>can't result into new money coming in for WWE, then putting
>him as a top guy or THE top guy won't mean any more than if he
>was in the mid card.

They don't know if he can draw as champion or not. They didn't know if Cena would draw. They didn't know if HBK would draw. Or Bret. They didn't know until they put the strap on them.

>Add to that he's not a big guy

You're assuming that's still relevant. Era of giants is long gone. Era of giants was gone when they put the strap on Bret and Shawn. You don't if his size is a limiting factor or not. I mean, right now they're quickly figuring out that Batista ain't gonna draw...

>get nightmares of how out of place and dwarfish he looked
>beside Rock at Raw's 1000th episode) and he doesn't have the
>look that WWE wants out of their guys.

He has the EXACTLY the look if he draws. Money wins, period. And you don't know whether he draws money or not.

>The top stars WWE had proved they could bring in a new
>audience that was different and more lucrative than WWE had at
>the time. Bryan has to do the same thing. He should get that
>chance just like Punk and others did, but if he can't make a
>difference in ratings or merch, WWE will do the same thing to
>Bryan that they did to all the others.

It MIGHT be that Bryan becomes the most over champ since Hogan. Right?

  

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202. "BWUAHAHHAHAHAHAH@taking credit for some Capt Obvious "
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What next, a bold prediction that The Shield is going to break up eventually?

There's a stark difference between people *wanting* them to do it one way, and *knowing* they'll do it another.

A few of us expressed what we *wanted* and you thought you were Bad News Barrett trying to rain on imaginary parades.

Nobody here has ever disputed what dude wrote in that article, and you never said anything that wasn't obvious as hell to begin with.

Stop it.

  

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197. "is it me, of has WWE ruined DB's organic following"
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into this contrived storyline? everything is contrived...but this is OVERLY done.

"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

  

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198. "if they haven't, it's not due to lack of effort"
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>into this contrived storyline? everything is contrived...but
>this is OVERLY done.
>

the t-shirts, the hashtags, etc. if HHH and Stephanie's characters were actually running the company that shit wouldn't fly.

  

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199. "Nope not you, we all saw this coming "
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Still waiting on Lawler to get in the ring at WM and explain what the Yes Chant is and ask everyone to do it at once to set a world record.

  

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200. "No. IMO, that's an irrational backlash. "
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Technically speaking, the second they began to market him and Yes! assertively, they "ruined" his "organic" following.

The notion that they are ruining the "organic" following is in my view the age old knee jerk reaction people have when something becomes popular, as it's no longer "underground"and they're no longer insiders of that particular phenomenon.

Everyone loves MC Get Busy until he gets played on thousands of "HOTTEST HIP HOP AND R&B!!" stations.

This particular story actually makes perfect sense and while Bryan vs HHH at Mania isn't exactly the best way to go given the fucking OBVIOUS Mania moment they can have with him winning the title, it's actually a perfectly reasonable story that's played out on a slow burn in a very organic way.

I do not understand how this is contrived in the least.
I also think it's absurd that people are in here complaining about WWE acknowledging the Yes movement.

Should they have ignored Austin 3:16 too?

It's bizarre thinking imo and reeks of simply wanting to be the cool underground kid.

  

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209. "DB standing in the ring "listen to them! we have a voice! that's why the..."
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ehhhhh


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201. "I couldn't care less about that though. He's still wildly popular."
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It might be annoying, but their finally pushing it isn't hurting him a bit. The only weird thing is that they're finally acknowledging openly after, what, 18 months?

  

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203. "I don't get why anyone would think WWE SHOULDN'T acknowledge"
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it.

Like... that's how shit works.

Yeah, let's pretend this thing doesn't exist.

Let's not mention it, at all, ever.

Let's not, you know, market the hell out of it. Let's STOP doing exactly what the stars in this business have done since the beginning in using them to draw money.

I mean.. that's the whole point. This is wierd.

They may as well have ignored Hulkamania, the NWO, DX, Austin 3:16, and the smell of The Rock's cooking.

I don't think it's odd that they haven't acknowledged it until now though. It seems they had real doubts about whether this whole thing had legs, and since he didn't fit their usual mold they didn't pull the trigger the way they would have with a guy who was jacked or fit their usual prototype. Now that they realize it's not just a fad, they're capitalizing at the best possible time. That's if they don't screw the pooch at Mania, obviously.

  

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204. "still blows my mind he was pegged to fight, like, Sheamus at WM"
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first thing I read for Daniel Bryan at Mania said Taker. I was like "WOA! Well I'd prefer the title but Taker would be a blast."

then that came and went and the rumor mill was churning with him facing Sheamus. I wanted no parts of that.

  

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206. "that would've been disastrous"
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>first thing I read for Daniel Bryan at Mania said Taker. I
>was like "WOA! Well I'd prefer the title but Taker would be a
>blast."
>
>then that came and went and the rumor mill was churning with
>him facing Sheamus. I wanted no parts of that.
>
>


can't believe they even considered it. they can't be that out of touch, right?

  

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208. "what sucks is the match itself would have been fucking beautiful."
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But the story and result would be anti climactic as fuck. Save that shit for a fued when they're both top guys so we can have a reason to care about the story.

  

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205. "it's about character consistency for the authority"
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"You're not what's best for business, Bryan... but any Daniel bryan fans who want to show their support, make sure to tweet about it with the hashtag we're promoting and buy the official yes movement t-shirt."

attempting to suppress daniel bryan and the yes chants is a huge part of what's made the whole thing explode, so while they're certainly happy about it backstage, they shouldn't really acknowledge that on camera. it makes no sense. it's not that they can't mention it or sell bryan products (they have products for everyone, after all), but to stamp things with the official yes movement seal of approval is lame, breaks the 4th wall, and threatens to kill the whole thing.

  

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207. "it makes perfect sense IMO. After all, they consider him a "B+" guy."
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I think your position makes sense if the "best for business" angle wasn't about being *thee* face of WWE. If the stance of HHH and Stef was that Bryan sucks and had no business in a WwE ring, I&d be on board with you.

As it standa, the angle is hey, you&re good, even pretty good... just not good enough to be *the face* of WWE. IMO that nuance is key to how I view them pushing Yes the way they are.

  

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221. "but they also shouldn't want him to have the support of an A guy."
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their stance is he's a B+ guy, they like having him on the roster, but they don't want him competing for the title. that's fine, but they should be doing everything they can to calm down the crowd's reaction because their characters should want the crowd to see him as B+ guy too (which would just push him further). but instead they have the official yes shirts, tell his fans to voice their support on twitter, and then come out a few weeks ago and say "maybe this guy should be the face of the company if he beats you, orton." it's inconsistent, but the authority hasn't been that consistent on anything.

  

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249. "A lot of this is downright nitpicking in my book. "
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>their stance is he's a B+ guy, they like having him on the
>roster, but they don't want him competing for the title.
>that's fine, but they should be doing everything they can to
>calm down the crowd's reaction because their characters should
>want the crowd to see him as B+ guy too (which would just push
>him further). but instead they have the official yes shirts,
>tell his fans to voice their support on twitter

I can't clap to this. They've done all they can to keep him down since Summerslam. They've fucked him over time and time again to keep him from the brass ring.

Pro wrestling demands a certain measure of "just go with it" in many regards. We could poke holes in pretty much every story line we've ever seen.

You make a good point when you mention the whole "maybe Bryan CAN be the face of the company over you, Randy!" bit a few weeks back. It was such a strange point in this story and makes no sense whatsoever. That, to me, is fair discourse. The notion that they're pushing his merch while simultaneously pushing his character down is somehow inconsistent, however, is not. Pushing his character down and treating him as second class is more than enough to endear him to the audience.

If they're Kayfabe treating him as B+ material, that's a pretty thin line between A+. Even tonight, they said he's valuable. Just not *as* valuable as a couple of other guys. B+ is close to an A...... so even by that measure, it makes sense that Yes! would get a push. After all.... that's what's best for business.

Could it maybe be finessed a little more, a little better? Of course. Naturally. I just don't see it as an inconsistency of any note.

  

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220. "Contrived? Nah. Corny as shit? Sure. But what can you do?"
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210. "So what do we think Hogan's announcement is?"
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I know what we all HOPE it is, but I think we all know that's not what is happening.

  

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211. "My guess is announcing a celebrity being at the show"
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212. "probably some dumb shit like"
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a Seether concert or an hour long pre-show on WWE Network

  

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213. "LOL@ a Seether concert. "
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I'm betting it will be gimmicky, anticlimactic bullshit like inducting that first WM main event into the HOF.

Frankly, I'd rather see HBK’s Five Most Hilarious Bumps In That Summerslam Match Vs Hulk Hogan. That would at least be entertaining. Personally I’ve always felt like that first Mania main event was a bore.
If an early wrestler makes the hall for his pioneer status, I’m good with that. If we’re inducting matches, however…. I think it’s corny anyways, but if they’re going that route, the match needs to be fire on its own accord and establishes significant precedence and influence based on the merits of the match, not some arbitrary induction merely because it’s the first. So a clinic like Savage/Steamboat, for example, would be good. Austin/Hart at Mania 13. TLC at Mania 17. Hulk/Rock at Mania 18, even, despite not exactly being a technical clinic.

  

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214. "Not sure how I feel about the trophy"
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But I love any excuse to squeeze more guys onto the card at Mania.

  

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215. "jobbers gotta earn that WM check too."
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30 man Battle Royale for a trophy of Andre The Giant? eh...

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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216. "Good chance for 1 night returns too"
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I think it'll be a fun addition to the card.

I hope Batista wins

  

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217. "I hope El Torito wins it"
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224. "they need to add some real stakes to it"
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you basically win the royal rumble and get a statue.

  

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246. "Surely that ends with all 3 Shield guys standing there right?"
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260. "I'm ABSOLUTELY positive this is why they added it. With the old "
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guys coming and getting paid, plus the network, the lockerroom was probably like wtf yo. Taker, Tista, trips, Brock, possibly Christian and Sheamus and not to mention the perpetual PPV pony Cena, not many slots left for folks to slide in after a full year of work.

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218. "The Rock and Austin just rolled over in their graves"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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219. "Oh, wait a minute, they're gonna turn the Shield babyface???"
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HOLY SHIT THEY'LL BE MEGA FACES JUST GO WITH IT

  

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222. "AJ Lee appreciation"
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she sold the shit outta that finisher!

  

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223. "LL referencing his Rampage verse....that was great"
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"Undertaker dropping thunder on fakers!"

What % of the audience do you think got that? LOL.

  

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225. "LL's conditioner bit had me laughing too"
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226. ""Give it to me, chubby." - HHH"
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