Since Mount Rushmore has been a big deal lately.
Name the team, then name the 4 dudes on that team's Mt. Rushmore.

NO HONORABLE MENTIONS...4 DUDE'S PERIOD!!!

I'll start:
New York Knicks:
- Walt Clyde Frazier
- Big Pat Ewing
- Willis Reed
- Earl the Pearl

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Russell
Bird
Red
4th is tough. Havlicek? Pierce? Maybe Ainge for his contributions as player and GM?

but it's been such an underwhelming group around him. it's havlicek, i think. honorable mention to pierce, cousy, mchale.

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Bird, Russell, Havlicek, and McHale as the four guys. If it were 5 I'd add Pierce.

Dave Cowens?

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Cowens was great. Cool guy in person too. Friend of my father's. it's just the other players named were better.

he was the no. 1 guy on the team for openers, and his numbers are stronger. mchale was a helluva player and maybe better at his peak (scoring wise, solid defense) but i think i would go with cowens

not really taking issue with your list as much as the fact that he isnt on any and often seems to be part of the widespread 70s omissions.

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Hondo whips his ass left and right. If it were four players I think it would be Russell, Cowens, Bird and Hondo. I get Auerbach but he should just be the whole goddamn mountain if he's included.

Too many good choices though. Both Joneses, McHale, Pierce, Jojo White, DJ (over Ainge at least), the list goes on and on. Obviously this recent group (KG, Ray) would get a look for most lesser franchises.

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offensively as Russell was defensively

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whiteness and/or age

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which is why i suggested pierce and ainge. i already had russell and red, so i was even shaky on including havlicek.

that he would fulfill since he played on to be part of those 70s teams.

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I tend to only talk about cats that I saw play. I have a thing with ranking or debating players from before my time.

Magic
Kareem
Shaq
Kobe

kinda conflicted about the 4th spot.

You can swap Tony w/ TJ Ford in 2007 & I still feel that the Spurs would have beaten the Cavs. Eric Snow & Boobie Gibson were tailor made for Tony's speed & quickness.

On the other hand, it would be tough to replace Manu circa 2005. He was the best offensive weapon against the Pistons for the better part of that series until Timmay slammed the door shut in the 4th quarter of Gm 7. He did it against a team that made Bean seem average just a year before in 2004.

Plus, even after it became Tony's team, the ball was always in Manu's hand when the team needed a bucket. If Tony had pulled an Isiah in Gm 7 instead of completely disappearing as he has in a couple of series then the narrative might have been different.

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and i only stan out for #Kang here (largely
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I generally despise franchise fandom.

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Gus and Jack were old guys past their prime when i first started watching ball.

If Gus hadn't won a title, I might argue for swapping out Dale Ellis. He was kind of an NBA vagabond after a while, but his first run in Seattle was pretty solid. Same with Jack Sikma over Tom Chambers - title tips it Jack's way. Sentimentally I'd like to include Nate, but he doesn't have the numbers...

Mostly this list just reminds me how rare it is to get a true HOFer on a basketball team. But yeah, can't really argue with that list at all.

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-Hunter S. Thompson

The coulda, woulda, shouldas are just too much to bear

>Gus and Jack were old guys past their prime when i first
>started watching ball.

My earliest Supes memories is of those two & Downtown Freddy Brown. I remember trying to watch games on an old b&w tv while getting my haircut in this barbershop. Barber would have to keep telling me to sit still or the flattop was gonna get fucked up.

>If Gus hadn't won a title, I might argue for swapping out Dale
>Ellis. He was kind of an NBA vagabond after a while, but his
>first run in Seattle was pretty solid. Same with Jack Sikma
>over Tom Chambers - title tips it Jack's way. Sentimentally
>I'd like to include Nate, but he doesn't have the numbers...

I thought about Dale & initially had Chambers over Sikma too. Mac-10 gotta raw deal here but he was a joy to watch...especially on defense

>Mostly this list just reminds me how rare it is to get a true
>HOFer on a basketball team. But yeah, can't really argue with
>that list at all.

Jeah it sorta sucks that Kemp didn't join Gary in the HOF. Seems like those 2 belong together there. Hopefully we'll see their numbers raised in the rafters of a new arena here soon.

typically I am hyping the fuck out of Gus Williams but in this case i see him and DJ as strong candidates who fall just short of Lenny Wilkens. Wilkens was a similarly productive player and also coached the franchise to its only title.

Spencer Haywood is maybe the only other guy I'd give a look to apart from those six, oh, and also Ray Allen.

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>typically I am hyping the fuck out of Gus Williams but in
>this case i see him and DJ as strong candidates who fall just
>short of Lenny Wilkens.

Considered DJ too but I remember him more as a Celtic

Wilkens was a similarly productive
>player and also coached the franchise to its only title.

Had he been a great color commentary co-host alongside Kevin Calabro...Sikma would've been bumped. Truth be told I'm having 2nd thoughts even w/o that.

>Spencer Haywood is maybe the only other guy I'd give a look to
>apart from those six, oh, and also Ray Allen.

Haywood was before my time & I'm not really up on his history. Ray got similar consideration as DJ & also left out for the same reason.

Lenny, Spencer Haywood, and Ray are all pretty solid candidates. I wouldn't bounce Gus or Sikma over them though.

Most of this is probably due to my age, though. I never watched Spencer Haywood or Lenny Wilkens actually play. I only saw later versions, and they haven't been super ingrained in Seattle basketball since their playing days.

Ray Allen was a goddam revelation in Seattle, but he's not a Sonic. I never realized what an all around talent he really was. Before he came to Seattle, I bought into the 'jump shooter' label. During his time in Seattle I realized how well rounded his game actually was. Don't get me wrong, fans in Seattle still love him, i think, but he's more of a Celtic or even Milwaukee Buck to me. His biggest shot came as a member of the Heat.

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>Ray Allen was a goddam revelation in Seattle, but he's not a
>Sonic.

It was always weird when he was here because they traded GP to get him. He never really felt like a Sonic to me either. As soon as he started to feel like one of ours he was shipped off to the Celtics.

I never realized what an all around talent he really
>was. Before he came to Seattle, I bought into the 'jump
>shooter' label. During his time in Seattle I realized how
>well rounded his game actually was.

Sounds crazy but he might've played his best ball here. Seemed like he had to do more to keep the team afloat.

Don't get me wrong, fans
>in Seattle still love him, i think, but he's more of a Celtic
>or even Milwaukee Buck to me. His biggest shot came as a
>member of the Heat.

Yeah I still consider him a Celtic first & foremost

GP, Sikma and Kemp are close enough.

Wilkens put in time with the Hawks and stuff. Still I would consider him because he had a long enough stint there (esp compared with DJ, Gus, Allen) and then coached the team to a title.

Could say I remember Gus more as a Bullet the same way, but they were their top players on the title team with DJ doing more scoring. They both spent about five years there without looking.

Allen played his prime in Seattle essentially, to me that was where you saw the most of his game. Who cares if they traded GP for him? Was it not one of the smartest moves in franchise history as it turned out?

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>GP, Sikma and Kemp are close enough.
>
>Wilkens put in time with the Hawks and stuff. Still I would
>consider him because he had a long enough stint there (esp
>compared with DJ, Gus, Allen) and then coached the team to a
>title.
>
>Could say I remember Gus more as a Bullet the same way, but
>they were their top players on the title team with DJ doing
>more scoring. They both spent about five years there without
>looking.

I don't barely remember Gus as a Bullet. He'll always be a Sonic to me. Lenny had some nice stints w/ the Hawks & accomplished a lot there too. It seems like he associates himself w/ Seattle more though too.

>Allen played his prime in Seattle essentially, to me that was
>where you saw the most of his game. Who cares if they traded
>GP for him?

At the time I cared a lot cause it was certainly the end of that era

Was it not one of the smartest moves in franchise
>history as it turned out?

Perhaps. G was past his prime & we were never known for making many smart moves over the course of my time watching em.

only a couple.

with payton i didnt have any real emotional investment. two of my favorite players being swapped. i did know it was a huge W for seattle though because they were getting a younger player as a result of a salary dump. i dont remember what the motivation was, i know they had redd but i recall kohl also considering selling the team. i could be wrong on that though.

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edit: sorry, sleepy. you're in if it's only players.

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Royals/Kings

Big O
Tiny Archibald
CWebb
Rock Richmond

Steelers:

Jack Lambert
Mean Joe
Mel Blount or Rod Woodson
Franco Harris

Pirates:
Dave Parker
Willie Stargell
Roberto Clemente
Tie: Bill Mazeroski, Raplh Kiner

Penguins:
Mario
Jagr
Kevin Stevens
Paul Coffey

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LaSalle Thompson was a beast too and Augustin really balled out for us. TJ is the MVP though, his teams were our best teams ever.

Mets: Keith, Seaver, Piazza, Doc

Giants: Tittle, Taylor, Simms, Manning

Nets: Petrovic, Kidd, Dr. J, Coleman

Devils: Stevens, Niedermayer, Fat Marty, MacLean

Villa: McGrath, Withe, Waring, Mortimer

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>Mets: Keith, Seaver, Piazza, Doc
No Darryl? WOW!

>Nets: Petrovic, Kidd, Dr. J, Coleman
D.C.? Damn its struggle-ville huh?

>>Mets: Keith, Seaver, Piazza, Doc
>No Darryl? WOW!

I'd LOVE to include Darryl. But Keith was still the guy that organized that team, and was the best defensive player at his position, perhaps ever. Seaver's a definite, Piazza earns it for bringing the team to the Series in 2000 and THAT homer in 2001 alone (and the team agrees- he caught the last pitch at Shea . . . from Seaver). I actually was between Doc and Darryl . . .

>>Nets: Petrovic, Kidd, Dr. J, Coleman
>D.C.? Damn its struggle-ville huh?

pretty much. . . it's DC, or K-Mart or Kerry Kittles.

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Ravens
R. Lewis
Reed
Ogden
Stover

Orioles
C. Ripken
B. Robinson
Murray
Palmer

Colts
Johnny U.
Moore
Mackey
Parker

Streets won't let me chill.

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For the 4th spot I could be persuaded for any of:

Bryant Young
Steve Young
Frank Gore
Joe Perry
Bob St. Clair
Leo Nomelli
Jimmy Johnson

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if we're talking about the players we actually we saw play.

it's too bad stubby had to bounce to the skins.

He is still just 25 and signed through 2019.

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Mizzou Tigers - football

Kellen Winslow
Chase Daniel
Sean Weatherspoon??
Michael Sam
(Jeremy Maclin / Aldon Smith would be 5 / 6)

Mizzou Tigers - basketball

Steve Stipanovich
Anthony Peeler
Marcus Denmon
Larry Drew
(Jon Sunvold would be 5)

St. Louis Rams (only played in St. Louis)

Marshall Faulk
Kurt Warner
Issac Bruce
Torry Holt
(easier than I thought it would be)

St. Louis Cardinals

Bob Gibson
Stan Musial
Albert Pujols
Rodgers Hornsby

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