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Warren Coolidge
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"Top NFL Coaching Candidates for 2014 season..."


  

          

tons of jobs gonna be open...

Who are the hot names right now?

I'm assuming Lovie will get a gig....

  

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they keep talking bout Lovie Smith, David Shaw, and Bill O'Brien
Dec 17th 2013
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If Leslie Frazier is fired..I think he's gonna get another
Dec 18th 2013
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Not sure if he'll get another shot this soon
Dec 18th 2013
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I could see it....
Dec 18th 2013
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The Carson Palmer move was his...fuck that guy
Dec 18th 2013
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At the very least, he should be an OC in the league
Dec 18th 2013
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TONY Dungy and Bill Cowher should be 1 and 2
Dec 18th 2013
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No Way They Come Back
Dec 18th 2013
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      man give me Tony Dungy back
Dec 18th 2013
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I think Josh McDaniels may get another look...
Dec 18th 2013
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him either in Cleveland or Dallas
Dec 18th 2013
9
Greg Roman, Jay Gruden, Mike Zimmer
Dec 18th 2013
8
Is Roman still a top candidate?
Dec 18th 2013
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      he's still got the right resume
Dec 18th 2013
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           I think the play-calling thing is way over blown
Dec 18th 2013
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                also not clear how much credit he gets for Luck
Dec 18th 2013
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smh a bunch of retreads being named in here
Dec 18th 2013
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Hopefully the Lions job opens up soon....nm
Dec 18th 2013
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one thing I see as far as offensive coordinators...
Dec 18th 2013
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I agree and disagree
Dec 18th 2013
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      but can't we say now that there is a way to run those offenses
Dec 18th 2013
21
           I don't think so
Dec 18th 2013
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Oakley
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Tue Dec-17-13 11:51 PM

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1. "they keep talking bout Lovie Smith, David Shaw, and Bill O'Brien"
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Warren Coolidge
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2. "If Leslie Frazier is fired..I think he's gonna get another "
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chance pretty quick...


  

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Tek4mula
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3. "Not sure if he'll get another shot this soon"
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But I think Hue Jackson deserves another shot at being a head coach. He's a legitimately good offensive mind and the situation in Oakland was messed up for many reasons beyond his control.

  

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Warren Coolidge
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5. "I could see it...."
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there are potentially going to be a bunch of jobs open...

Houston....Redskins....Tampa...

maybe cowboy...Vikings....... and some possible surprise openings..

  

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14. "The Carson Palmer move was his...fuck that guy"
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He fucked the entire franchise with that dumb shit

  

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Brother Grifter
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19. "At the very least, he should be an OC in the league"
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The jump the Raiders made when he took over and the way he maximized the talent they had on offense shouldn't be overlooked.

I don't think another owner will feel "comfortable" with him as the head man for a second...well, maybe Mike Brown.

  

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4. "TONY Dungy and Bill Cowher should be 1 and 2"
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on that list period and then Lovie Smith.

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Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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6. "No Way They Come Back"
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They both look comfy as shit commentating, probably like FUCK DAT SHIT! Too stressful

I think Lovie is the prime candidate though

  

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mistermaxxx08
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10. "man give me Tony Dungy back"
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he is the one

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Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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Warren Coolidge
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7. "I think Josh McDaniels may get another look..."
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there are some teams that need to ignite some young QBs in their offense...

  

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mistermaxxx08
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9. "him either in Cleveland or Dallas"
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and of course with the titans.

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Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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will_5198
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8. "Greg Roman, Jay Gruden, Mike Zimmer"
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Tek4mula
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11. "Is Roman still a top candidate?"
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The 49ers pass offense has been very poorly ranked this season and Kaepernick has hit a little lull in his development. I wonder if the league still looks at him as a hot up and comer.

  

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12. "he's still got the right resume"
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he can put down "tutored Andrew Luck, brought out the best in Alex Smith and unleashed Colin Kaepernick en route to a Super Bowl".

while his idiosyncrasies as a play-caller grates on San Francisco fans, he strikes me as a guy who could wow an organization with a Sharpie and whiteboard. plus the players seem to respect him a great bit.

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Tek4mula
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13. "I think the play-calling thing is way over blown"
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>he can put down "tutored Andrew Luck, brought out the best in
>Alex Smith and unleashed Colin Kaepernick en route to a Super
>Bowl".

But I wonder how much credit he gets for this in League circles and how much is given to Harbaugh. I feel like Roman gets dinged a bit because people think of Harbaugh as the QB guru.

>while his idiosyncrasies as a play-caller grates on San
>Francisco fans, he strikes me as a guy who could wow an
>organization with a Sharpie and whiteboard. plus the players
>seem to respect him a great bit.

I could see him being great in an interview but I think it will be hard for him to get out of Harbaugh's shadow, especially with the 49ers offense being not very dynamic.

  

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16. "also not clear how much credit he gets for Luck"
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Wasn't he something like "offensive coordinator/running game" at Stanford? I seem to recall Harbaugh having multiple guys with OC next to their name (including Shaw, no?)

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15. "smh a bunch of retreads being named in here"
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that's what's wrong with the NFL
the new blood this year has been good we need more of that

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17. "Hopefully the Lions job opens up soon....nm"
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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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Warren Coolidge
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18. "one thing I see as far as offensive coordinators..."
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you have guys like Cam Newton....Kaepernick.....Russell Wilson..who are more shot guy option type of guys rather than strict pocket passers.... and you have other QBs on the horizon coming into the league who are of similar talents....

the NFL is going to need to have coordinators and coaches who can maximize what those guys do. So I think you may see some College coaches get some opportunities as assistants in the NFL soon to set the ground work for these guys coming in...and to help possibly with someone like RGIII who could really bubble in a system more condusive for his skills...

  

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20. "I agree and disagree"
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Wed Dec-18-13 02:22 PM by Brother Grifter

          

I think Cam, Kap, and definitely 3X aren't limited to that style and can probably play in any type of system.

I think right now, coaches are taking the easy path and having them run that offense so they can get some wins. No one is trying to wait until a QB fully develops as a pocket guy. So, yes, in the short term, I think teams will try to follow that path.

But that style of play isn't something a QB can do for their entire career. In the near future, once these guys hit contract #2 and get the $100 million payday, the teams that developed them as traditional passers (Seahawks) will see the benefits. Those that chose to live and breathe that gimmick will be pissed when 25%+ of their cap room is in and out of the lineup with injuries.

  

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Warren Coolidge
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21. "but can't we say now that there is a way to run those offenses "
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while minimizing QB injury risk???

I'd have to say yes.

if I look at how Cam and Russ are doing it... I don't see them as being at MORE of a risk for injury than a pocket passer with a weak O-line..

plus the other thing.... those offenses can keep you off balance if the general running game is a potent offense..a defense doesn't know what is coming at them...who has the ball some times.... you add that with a QB that knows how to slide and run out of bounds.... I don't think it's any more risky than any other offense if done right.

  

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22. "I don't think so"
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Even above, you state that they aren't at risk any more than a pocket QB with a weak o-line. So in a best case scenario, with two extremely gifted QBs, they face the same amount of risk as a statue playing behind a shitty o-line. To me, that's a huge amount of risk. Way more than I'd want to expose my $100 million franchise to.

And that is the best case scenario, if done right. Most of these teams that are going to try it will not have the personnel, players or coaches, to be great at it. Like when everyone was trying to run that Denver offense and had to go and hire Alex Gibbs to teach the o-line concepts, I think we discount Cam's and 3X's talent in thinking others will be able to pull it off.

I'll take the old school dinosaur title on this one, but I just don't believe in confusion as a basis for a championship offense. Might win some games in the regular season or first round, but once they run into a defense that is on some "fuck all those reads, I'm blowing up everything", title run over.

But maybe that is just the way the game has changed now. We'll see.

  

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