Had a rant about firing Woodson and trading melo for young talent/draft picks to start over.

A dude I'm cool with responds with "Nobody wants Melo, who is going to trade their future for him ?"

Had a back and forth b/c his main responses are

1. "Why do you think there aren't any trade rumors about him? (Stupidity)

2. He doesn't rebound enough for a SF (understandable but this season at the four he's stepping up clearly in the category something he clearly won't acknowledge.)

What say you for Melo's trade value? He's saying we can't even get late picks + marginal talent from a team mid level team for Melo including offseason sign and trade ideas from a team needing space to make it work.

The guy watches basketball, I just don't respect his opinion as a basketball mind.

Poll result (9 votes) Lotto pick + marginal talent (5 votes) Vote Late first rd pick(s) & expirings (1 votes) Vote A few young marginal talents with bad contracts (1 votes) Vote Nobody want Melo. He will be a Knick due to no suitors. (2 votes) Vote

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Binlahab droppin science on the youth

"youre frustrated now? in undergrad? reading books all day?,
surrounded by more nubile unattached pussy than you will be in your life?"

http://media.silive.com/knicks_blog/photo/ap-amare-walsh-dolan-dantnoijpg-1c08473aa2ebc619_large.jpg

i think the 2nd half of his next contract is going to be painful
has to be the main concern with anyone that gets him in a trade , he's going to want that 5 yr max

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If you're trying to build your own big 2-3 for a 2-3 year run at a chip what do you think is realistic to give up?

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Binlahab droppin science on the youth

"youre frustrated now? in undergrad? reading books all day?,
surrounded by more nubile unattached pussy than you will be in your life?"

i have no idea if this would even work but yeah.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

Bulls will probably get that pick this year.

As for Luol, the Bulls might not re-sign him or someone will offer him more money than they're willing to pay so he might not be long for Chicago anyway.

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>Bulls will probably get that pick this year.

Just the facts....Very true...


>As for Luol, the Bulls might not re-sign him or someone will
>offer him more money than they're willing to pay so he might
>not be long for Chicago anyway.

True...

The Bulls are not going to resign Lu...So you might as well get something for him...This is more about business than anything else...If you can get a player like Melo to take pressure off of Rose given that the kid will most likely never be the same then you can make such a move...The biggest issue would be that MAX money...I don't think the Bulls would drop all that money on Melo at this point in his career...

Still on paper, it works...Melo has proven that he can play PF...Let Jimmy slide over to that 3 spot, Play Taj at both the 5 and 4 spot and go from there...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

I don't know, dog...

They may trade the pick given that the Cats can actually make the playoffs this season in the sorry ass East...It's a valuable chip for the Bulls and I can't see them getting a real legit game changer on offense (beyond TANKING) without throwing in the Cats' draft pick (which is still top 10 protected up until 2016)....With the reality that Rose may no longer be "Rose," Bulls gotta make a move to bring some real offensive talent to this team...

Unfortunately, it's looking more and more like the Cats may actually get some post season tick this season...There is a possibility that 10 teams will be shittier than the Cats...Who knew?

To me the biggest question is that MAX money...Do the Bulls want to give Melo all that money? That's the biggest question...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

the pick i think is top 10 protected and maybe for two seasons. so not all that coveted.

iono, dont really love that deal for either side. makes especially little sense for the knicks IMO. they could get that pick wherever. what do they want with deng? why would they send the bulls a big name? maybe if he is cooked they would do them dirty like the pistons did letting wallace walk there or the eagles did with mcnabb lol

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

Knicks arent competent enough to rebuild and they wont be any time soon.

They got no choice but to hope he reups

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but it ain't gonna happen.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

just name some teams so i can tell you why it ain't gonna happen.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

For max volume shooter.

They're best bet is getting an expiring contract Poo Poo platter like the Raps did and cut their losses.

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But its only not gonna happen cause melo aint goona stay there long term.. Betta believe them bum ass lotto teams that cant get a free agent to come to they city would easily throw picks and money for melo.

Besides the fact that the knicks are gonna keep him.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

I wanna hear your definition, and supporting
evidence.



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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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>I wanna hear your definition, and supporting
evidence.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

player on a team that's trying to contend for a title

he can be a "franchise player" on a team mediocre squad

but

not on a LEGITIMATE TITLE CONTENDING TEAM

plain and simple -- there's nothing on his resume that's warrants regarding him as a franchise player.

>I wanna hear your definition, and supporting
>evidence.
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
>
>
>
>
>"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
>
>(C)Keith Murray, "

grassrootsphilosopher

That no other team with a "franchise player" (from Bron to PG to Kyrie to Drummond to Love to Davis to WHOEVER) will swap with the Knicks straight up. Not ONE would do it.

What your definition that he is?

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

>That no other team with a "franchise player" (from Bron to PG
>to Kyrie to Drummond to Love to Davis to WHOEVER) will swap
>with the Knicks straight up. Not ONE would

Sounds like a new Basa manufactured definition.

We don't actually know if most of those guys are franchise
players. We know they have franchise potential. You can't
have never made the playoffs and be franchise players. It
doesn't work that way.

>What your definition that he is?

Oh, Franchise players are never on underachieving teams,
and can have contenders built around them using normal
transactions and financial structure (as in, sound,
good management)

Kevin Durant isn't winning a title anytime soon, but is
a Franchise player (his sidekick is better than any
Carmelo Sidekick ever by about 40000 miles, btw).

Barkley never won, but was a franchise player. As was
Malone. As were lots of guys with no rings. Circumstances
didn't work out (teams were mismanaged, etc)

Dirk was a bigger choker and more maligned than Carmelo
was (far more embarrassing playoff performances than Carmelo
prior to 2011). He was a franchise player, who found the
right mix of players (more athletes and guys who can get
their own shot), and won a chip.

Carmelo Anthony saw the 2010 Amare Stoudemire and, like
Chris Paul, saw the potential for a contender. A team
with 2010 Amare, Carmelo, Chandler and decent pieces is
very competitive (considering the same team with Carmelo,
1/3 Amare and 1/2 of Chandler was a 2-seed)

He's a franchise player by every non mad DC nigga definition.

Or shit breath Iverstanian definition.

"I wanna hear your definition, and supporting
evidence."

i gave it.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

>"I wanna hear your definition, and supporting
>evidence."
>
>i gave it.

No, you didn't. You said guys who have never made the
playoffs are "franchise players." They aren't. Their
teams don't make the playoffs.

If you had just said Lebron, KD, PG, etc, you woulda
been better off. You fucked up mentioning niggas who
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why'd you even ask me?

i don't buy that guys who've only played 1 or 2 years, but haven't made the playoffs, can't be considered franchise players. as i've repeated plenty of times, lebron and KD ain't make it until year 3.

we clearly disagree on what DEFINES a franchise player. However, no one asked you. you asked me.

you STILL ain't right, dogg. you've lost all ability to reason and stick to the points of a debate. we can't continue like this. you constantly put words in my mouth. you derail threads with nonsense. you challenge people to offer THEIR definitions of relatively SUBJECTIVE things and then you accuse them "manufacturing" those definitions. OF COURSE i manufactured it!!! it's mine!

i would venture that MOST people's definitions of franchise guys are players that can serve as the centerpiece for a team being built for a title run. that process of team-building can take YEARS!!! RIGHT TODAY, all 32 would rather go through that process with DRUMMOND, DAVIS, KYRIE, WALL, KD, BRON, HARDEN, PG, LOVE, D12 and MANY MORE than a 30 year-old CARMELO. now, a 25 year-old melo...different story. but he ain't that no more.

GET OVER IT!!! PG TOOK HIS SPOT AS 3rd BEST SF!!! HE BETTER!!!

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

You are posting like you grabbed one of the dingy
looking bananas on the way out the door

That's not the way real Gs move

Sit down, have some oatmeal

Complex carbs, a protein source of some kind

>why'd you even ask me?

Because I was interested in your opinion

I got it, and expressed mine

Yours was covered with Madness clothes

Literally Junkyard Band started playing when I opened
your reply

You DC nigga you

>i don't buy that guys who've only played 1 or 2 years, but
>haven't made the playoffs, can't be considered franchise
>players. as i've repeated plenty of times, lebron and KD ain't
>make it until year 3.

Cool, so according to you, Carmelo Anthony is not a franchise
player now, but was one when he was 20 and engineered the
biggest single season rookie turnaround (as his team's best
player) since Larry Bird.

Even though he just carried a team where JR Smith was his
main sidekick to the #2 seed

We supposed to not believe you stick him with a REAL supporting
cast and he can't win?

Nigga...stop it

>you STILL ain't right, dogg. you've lost all ability to reason
>and stick to the points of a debate. we can't continue like
>this. you constantly put words in my mouth. you derail threads
>with nonsense. you challenge people to offer THEIR definitions
>of relatively SUBJECTIVE things and then you accuse them
>"manufacturing" those definitions. OF COURSE i manufactured
>it!!! it's mine!

Right, but "manufactured" means you made it up using
your own personal bad breath, rather than facts.

Mine is based on facts.

Yours is based on being a mad DC nigga.

>i would venture that MOST people's definitions of franchise
>guys are players that can serve as the centerpiece for a team
>being built for a title run. that process of team-building can
>take YEARS!!! RIGHT TODAY, all 32 would rather go through that
>process with DRUMMOND, DAVIS, KYRIE, WALL, KD, BRON, HARDEN,
>PG, LOVE, D12 and MANY MORE than a 30 year-old CARMELO. now, a
>25 year-old melo...different story. but he ain't that no more.

The only player age 30 that you would trade for any of those
niggas is Lebron.

So again: Carmelo's only crime is not being Lebron.

That is literally Carmelo's narrative: "Not as good as Lebron."

LOL. Pathetic.


>GET OVER IT!!! PG TOOK HIS SPOT AS 3rd BEST SF!!! HE
>BETTER!!!

Nobody care about PG. PG is the closest thing to Pip since
Pip. He's damn near god status. Great for him.

Love hearing y'all and your Knick fan rants..."Knick fans
scared of PG." Bwahaha, no nigga. Knicks fans don't care.
They just want a relevant basketball team, and like Carmelo
because he is the single reason Knicks became fun and relevant
again. That's all. No reason to lie.


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>Cool, so according to you, Carmelo Anthony is not a franchise
>player now, but was one when he was 20 and engineered the
>biggest single season rookie turnaround (as his team's best
>player) since Larry Bird.

he not 20 no more and this isn't last season.

>
>Even though he just carried a team where JR Smith was his
>main sidekick to the #2 seed

he should carry them again.

>We supposed to not believe you stick him with a REAL
>supporting
>cast and he can't win?

there it is. puttin words in my mouth. seriously. did i say what you just implied i said? i said, NO GM would choose melo over the guys I named as the centerpice for a team being built for a title run. that's it. of course he can "win"...can he win a TITLE as the best player on a team. we talking about a TITLE. he WON last year. he's always WON.


>Nigga...stop it
>
>>you STILL ain't right, dogg. you've lost all ability to
>reason
>>and stick to the points of a debate. we can't continue like
>>this. you constantly put words in my mouth. you derail
>threads
>>with nonsense. you challenge people to offer THEIR
>definitions
>>of relatively SUBJECTIVE things and then you accuse them
>>"manufacturing" those definitions. OF COURSE i manufactured
>>it!!! it's mine!
>
>Right, but "manufactured" means you made it up using
>your own personal bad breath, rather than facts.

oh, i can pull the GM/scout polls. Nobody wanna build around Melo...lmao.

>Mine is based on facts.
>
>Yours is based on being a mad DC nigga.

your based on your misery of making melo your primary NBA agenda. no one told you to do that. i was completely oblivious to it.

>>i would venture that MOST people's definitions of franchise
>>guys are players that can serve as the centerpiece for a
>team
>>being built for a title run. that process of team-building
>can
>>take YEARS!!! RIGHT TODAY, all 32 would rather go through
>that
>>process with DRUMMOND, DAVIS, KYRIE, WALL, KD, BRON, HARDEN,
>>PG, LOVE, D12 and MANY MORE than a 30 year-old CARMELO. now,
>a
>>25 year-old melo...different story. but he ain't that no
>more.
>
>The only player age 30 that you would trade for any of those
>niggas is Lebron.

we not disagreeing there?

>So again: Carmelo's only crime is not being Lebron.

that's every current player's burden. he don't own that victim status.

>That is literally Carmelo's narrative: "Not as good as
>Lebron."

personally, i think it's "not as good as he could have been"

>LOL. Pathetic.
>
>
>>GET OVER IT!!! PG TOOK HIS SPOT AS 3rd BEST SF!!! HE
>>BETTER!!!
>
>Nobody care about PG. PG is the closest thing to Pip since
>Pip. He's damn near god status. Great for him.

cool.


>Love hearing y'all and your Knick fan rants..."Knick fans
>scared of PG." Bwahaha, no nigga. Knicks fans don't care.
>They just want a relevant basketball team, and like Carmelo
>because he is the single reason Knicks became fun and
>relevant
>again. That's all. No reason to lie.

1. you scared of PG

2. knicks fandom is at rock bottom, as melo wears the uniform.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

Your beef against Carmelo:

"personally, i think it's "not as good as he could have been"

How good was he supposed to be?

He is NOT a physical freak like PG, Bron or KD.

All 3 of those niggas are olympic grade natural athletes.
Carmelo ball playing ability is ALL ABILITY. Its all footwork,
and timing, and rhythm. He ain't out-leapt any body, ever.

Any nigga who likes the GAME should love Carmelo. He can
play. And he is almost NEVER more athletically gifted than
his opponent.

He got Chandler Parsons athleticism, dogg. Not even Gordon
Heyward explosiveness. And he's a HALL OF FAMER, easily.

Give him his due.

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half of the 50 greatest players were average to below average athletes.

i just don't buy the pity party, my dude.

i'm sorry.

he stayed out of shape for MOST of his career to this point and all the passing and handling he displayed in HS and college was NOT DEVELOPED along the way. he just got stronger. nothing about melo's game since 2003 to now is NEW. not a thing.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

>half of the 50 greatest players were average to below average
>athletes.

Did half the greatest players ever play in an era where
their compatriots were literally the best athlete in the
history of sports, a 6'11 "small forward" with a 7+ wingspan,
and a TALLER more explosive Scottie Pippen?








































































Oh.

This is the most explosive, most athletic era in the history
of the wing position. By a lot. And not only did Carmelo compete,
he won a scoring title on a good team in the middle of this
era.

He's a great, great player. Having a wonderful career.




>he stayed out of shape for MOST of his career to this point
>and all the passing and handling he displayed in HS and
>college was NOT DEVELOPED along the way. he just got stronger.
>nothing about melo's game since 2003 to now is NEW. not a
>thing.

LOL -- fuck you want him to develop into Magic Johnson, nigga?

He's a better version of himself from when he was young

Just like most great players

Actually, he's a MUCH better DEFENDER now, but I don't expect
you to admit that


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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>
>
>>half of the 50 greatest players were average to below
>average
>>athletes.
>
>Did half the greatest players ever play in an era where
>their compatriots were literally the best athlete in the
>history of sports, a 6'11 "small forward" with a 7+ wingspan,
>and a TALLER more explosive Scottie Pippen?

RABBIT HOLE, RIGHT AHEAD!

you play in the era you play in. SOME nights you play freaks and MOST nights you play average guys. been the same way for a long ass time.



>Oh.
>
>This is the most explosive, most athletic era in the history
>of the wing position. By a lot. And not only did Carmelo
>compete,
>he won a scoring title on a good team in the middle of this
>era.
>
>He's a great, great player. Having a wonderful career.

none of this has anything to do with him not making a shot in the 4th quarter multiple times last spring.


>
>>he stayed out of shape for MOST of his career to this point
>>and all the passing and handling he displayed in HS and
>>college was NOT DEVELOPED along the way. he just got
>stronger.
>>nothing about melo's game since 2003 to now is NEW. not a
>>thing.
>
>LOL -- fuck you want him to develop into Magic Johnson,
>nigga?

LMAO...*straight face* nah, i just wanted him to stop getting fat and work on his game.


>He's a better version of himself from when he was young

>Just like most great players

insightful.

>Actually, he's a MUCH better DEFENDER now, but I don't expect
>you to admit that

he's a much better defender now.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

>RABBIT HOLE, RIGHT AHEAD!
>
>you play in the era you play in. SOME nights you play freaks
>and MOST nights you play average guys. been the same way for a
>long ass time.

LMAO!!

No.

The *average* wing player is much, much, much, much
more athletic. Its not a bunch of average niggas and
then Bron, KD and PG.

Nigga, even a nigga like Jeff Green is VERY athletic,
much more than Carmelo.

Look at niggas like Iggy.

>none of this has anything to do with him not making a shot in
>the 4th quarter multiple times last spring.

Nah, him being on a shitty team that forces him to bang
with David West for 3 quarters is responsible for him
fading...its actually true. If he can play on the wing,
or fall asleep on defense like Dirk was able to that Mavs
championship year (cornered by TWO ELITE ALL-NBA DEFENDERS
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I can't imagine someone giving up a ton for what could be a half season of 'Melo. Also, the Knicks tanking right now isn't a good idea since Denver owns their first round pick (from the 'Melo trade.)

Chicago can probably make the best offer. They might not re-sign Deng and there's Boozer or Gibson's contracts that they might be willing to part with. If they don't think Deng is coming back, there's something there IMO. Although if 'Melo wants the full max, that pretty much kills it. Chicago won't pay that much.

The Wiz would offer Ariza, Otto Porter, Seraphin, Vesely and a 2016 pick for Melo but I doubt that's very appealing for the Knicks, unless someone's still high on Porter.

If the Pelicans are as unimpressed with Eric Gordon and Tyreke Evans as I am, I could see them offering them for 'Melo plus another piece, but odds are NO still likes them and the other piece would be Shumpert, which would kill the deal.

I could see Charlotte selling out to win now: Gordon's expiring, Sessions, MK-G, Zeller, Biyombo, and a 2016 pick for 'Melo and Chandler. Of course, I'm not sure why NY would want that.

If Dumars doesn't want to re-sign Monroe, maybe Stuckey and Charlie V's expiring deals and Monroe for Melo and something.

But, again, most of these deals are huge long shots if 'Melo doesn't agree to an extension with the new team before the trade is consummated.

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>2. He doesn't rebound enough for a SF (understandable but this
>season at the four he's stepping up clearly in the category
>something he clearly won't acknowledge.)
He averages the same amount of RPGs as Durant and is roughly half a rebound behind Lebron for their careers...so if he's a bad rebounder for his position the other elite SF aren't much better at all

>What say you for Melo's trade value? He's saying we can't
>even get late picks + marginal talent from a team mid level
>team for Melo including offseason sign and trade ideas from a
>team needing space to make it work.
The market to trade Melo is low because there's no guarantee for the extension. No team wants to give up anything if they don't think he'll resign

He'll get way more suitors in free agency than he trade market

>
>>2. He doesn't rebound enough for a SF (understandable but
>this
>>season at the four he's stepping up clearly in the category
>>something he clearly won't acknowledge.)
>He averages the same amount of RPGs as Durant and is roughly
>half a rebound behind Lebron for their careers...so if he's a
>bad rebounder for his position the other elite SF aren't much
>better at all
>
>>What say you for Melo's trade value? He's saying we can't
>>even get late picks + marginal talent from a team mid level
>>team for Melo including offseason sign and trade ideas from
>a
>>team needing space to make it work.
>The market to trade Melo is low because there's no guarantee
>for the extension. No team wants to give up anything if they
>don't think he'll resign
>
>He'll get way more suitors in free agency than he trade
>market
>

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Duke, Knicks, Yankess, Giants, UGA, Rangers

Binlahab droppin science on the youth

"youre frustrated now? in undergrad? reading books all day?,
surrounded by more nubile unattached pussy than you will be in your life?"

>He averages the same amount of RPGs as Durant and is roughly half a rebound behind Lebron for their careers...so if he's a bad rebounder for his position the other elite SF aren't much better at all

people like durant and lebron more so even things they do at the same clip won't get judged the same way.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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Binlahab droppin science on the youth

"youre frustrated now? in undergrad? reading books all day?,
surrounded by more nubile unattached pussy than you will be in your life?"

for Vince's expiring, Marion's Expiring, Jae Crowder, Brandan Wright, Ricky Ledo, Dallas' next 2 first round picks (might need Calderon to make the money work)


Dallas gets another big 3 to make the league more exciting:
Dirk, Monta, Melo (maybe Calderon. Melo goes to a team that will pay him and has a chance to win.


Trade Tyson to the Rockets for Asik, Dmo, and the Rockets 1st round this year.


Some young players to see if they can play on decent deals, expirings, and some new draft picks.

Done- and you havent even moved Shump yet.

And you have a team that won't be good but play hard and be competitive in the East.

Felton (or Calderon)
Shump
marion
Bargs
Asik

Bench
Ledo, Dmo, Brandan Wright, Amare, Crowder, Vince, Prigs, MWP / whoever you dont wave.


DONE AND DONE

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shawn's crazy ass proposed this.
im in it for the vince/matrix expirings and ricky ledo

that houston deal aint happen no mufucking way, I won't entertain it.

but i want them. Fuck Dolan.

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Duke, Knicks, Yankess, Giants, UGA, Rangers

Binlahab droppin science on the youth

"youre frustrated now? in undergrad? reading books all day?,
surrounded by more nubile unattached pussy than you will be in your life?"

Dolan wouldnt take Harden for Shump if salaries worked just out of spite.

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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

he can play SOME 4 too.


Its not my favorite deal. Id rather have Hawes, but this would really help tighten us up defensively.

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

OKS was saying that Chandler was really the best
player on the Knicks.....now Chandler is a backup?

Bwahahahhah

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the only person i remember saying that was Guinness.

Unfortunately he hasnt posted here in almost a year.

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

>for Vince's expiring, Marion's Expiring, Jae Crowder, Brandan
>Wright, Ricky Ledo, Dallas' next 2 first round picks (might
>need Calderon to make the money work)

what is the point of trading him now for filler contracts and picks when they could just S+T for picks? if i am dallas i look at ledo, two firsts and calderon as a lot to give up, actually, but whose firsts are they? if they are late firsts, yeah, i would do them in an S+T easily.

>Dallas gets another big 3 to make the league more exciting:
>Dirk, Monta, Melo (maybe Calderon. Melo goes to a team that
>will pay him and has a chance to win.

they better trade for a second basketball. that doesn't strike me as a big three that would play well together.

>Trade Tyson to the Rockets for Asik, Dmo, and the Rockets 1st
>round this year.

why would the rockets do that? chandler is worth all that? really? and he solves their frontcourt compatibility problem how?

>Some young players to see if they can play on decent deals,
>expirings, and some new draft picks.
>
>Done- and you havent even moved Shump yet.

if they are in a rebuild why bother trading shumpert?

>And you have a team that won't be good but play hard and be
>competitive in the East.
>
>Felton (or Calderon)
>Shump
>marion
>Bargs
>Asik
>
>Bench
>Ledo, Dmo, Brandan Wright, Amare, Crowder, Vince, Prigs, MWP /
>whoever you dont wave.
>
>
>DONE AND DONE

sadly that could be a low seed roster lol.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

>what is the point of trading him now for filler contracts and
>picks when they could just S+T for picks? if i am dallas i
>look at ledo, two firsts and calderon as a lot to give up,
>actually, but whose firsts are they? if they are late firsts,
>yeah, i would do them in an S+T easily.
>



Knicks cant just take draft picks back. The salary wont match.
Dallas im sure with melo, Dirk, and Monta would assume that they had a late pick.

It also gives them some flexibility to let an Older Dirk Walk.


And yea it doesnt strike me as a win it all team either. But avg joe NBA fan would be jacking off over this trade.

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look at what the cavs and raptors got back from miami, it would be that type of deal

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

Bwahahahahah

TOLD YALL

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Binlahab droppin science on the youth

"youre frustrated now? in undergrad? reading books all day?,
surrounded by more nubile unattached pussy than you will be in your life?"

1) He carried the Knicks to their first division
title in a decade, made them relevant and fun

2) Won a scoring title in the best wing scorer
era in a generation

3) Built a resume to be traded to or sign with an
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So this aint hate for him.
I just wanna cash out before he leaves from frustration without us getting compensation.

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Duke, Knicks, Yankess, Giants, UGA, Rangers

Binlahab droppin science on the youth

"youre frustrated now? in undergrad? reading books all day?,
surrounded by more nubile unattached pussy than you will be in your life?"

Knicks can easily get into the lottery for Carmelo.

Easily. Or stack up on 1st rounders.

Kobe being in LA for a few more years means he's going
to want to win....the Lakers aren't tanking...they'll
happily give up their lottery balls for Carmelo

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

please.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

The really bad ones are tanking for the big 3
obviously

We'll see

Honest question: Do you really not want this nigga
to go to a good team? Why?

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you can just put melo on a bad teamthat traded away their only change of surrounding him with good players.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

>you can just put melo on a bad teamthat traded away their
>only change of surrounding him with good players.

Literally every single lottery team in the league provides
a better situation

By miles

In fact, take off the best player on every team in
the league, and every team has a better team than
Carmelo-less Knicks

They are horrid



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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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Koach Kidd gotta get some, if not most of the blame.

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This^^^^^

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

>Koach Kidd gotta get some, if not most of the blame.

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>Koach Kidd gotta get some, if not most of the blame.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

no way

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He makes a lot of money to trade for him in-season. Conceivably if he were extended or otherwise offered the suitor assurance that would sign long-term, some team could throw the junk contracts together to get him now for a pick or two. He's not going to get anything close to what the Knicks gave up for him under any circumstances IMO.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.