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"Dion Waiters is the worst thing to happen to professional basketball"
Thu Nov-21-13 11:59 AM by Basaglia

  

          

Primarily, this is an anti-jinx attempt. I hope that by bringing the board's attention to how bad this Philly-rockin' 20 foot pull-up bamma is at basketball, SOMEHOW the basketball Gods will prove me wrong, as they so often love to do.

But it won't happen. So, I'm here to confess and apologize.

1. I'm scared. Just gonna put it out there. I believe Kyrie is one of the most talented players I've ever seen in my life and right now he is dealing with the kinda toxic situation I haven't seen since Jamal Crawford, Jalen Rose, Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry made life miserable for Jason Williams his rookie year in Chicago...because they were jealous of him. He could do things on the court that they simply weren't capable of and they didn't like him.

I feel like Dion, being the fake thug/bamma he is is turning players against Kyrie, talmbout he not giving "US" the ball enough, because he is jealous. And this is all because he's been playing basketball most of his life and he STILL doesn't know how to create a shot for himself WITHOUT THE BALL...he don't MOVE. If you watch Klay or Beal, the best two young SGs, they pass the ball and SLIDE/FADE/DRIFT to OPEN AREAS on the basketball court. This is SIMPLE stuff. He don't do it. He stands and waits for the ball. It's disgusting. And his release is absolutely USPS-slow. Beal and Klay...catch, straight up, fire. Dion? Catch, think, bounce, rock, fade on a contested J a foot inside the line...miss.

2. I apologize to everyone who said Beal was a beast...even Chad Ford. I also even apologize to Truth, even though he's a bamma and this is the only thing he's ever been right about on this board, as far as I can remember. And I'm still ignoring all his posts like he don't exists.

I also apologize to OE for disagreeing that Lance Stephenson would be a better fit. Even tho Lance isn't the knockdown shooter I want alongside Kyrie...he waaaaay better than what there right now. I'd take Rodney Stuckey over what's there. EASY.


so, hopefully this show of agenda-vulnerability will bring me some karmic blessings and Kyrie can make the All-Star team despite this mess, because, honestly, that's all I can look forward to I think.

Cavs real sorry.

They going to the lottery again and I know Chris Grant ain't gonna do nothing but try to outsmart everyone again and take Dante Exum or Gary Harris with a top 3 pick.


And I reserve my right to Cuban B this post if the Cavs turn it around. But they won't.

____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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YOU are the jinx. Stop talking about the Cavs and it will get better.
Nov 21st 2013
1
i left the knicks alone ater Zeke bounced...how y'all doing, dogg?
Nov 21st 2013
2
      we just had our best season in a decade and no one got
Nov 21st 2013
4
           EXACTLY.
Nov 21st 2013
5
           y'all went home EXACTLY when i said you would.
Nov 21st 2013
12
                we went home when I said we would too. lol
Nov 21st 2013
14
                     sizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzle
Nov 30th 2013
103
           nah, you just got a fake gang member and some generative knees
Nov 21st 2013
11
           did we just win 54 games, make it to the 2nd round and
Nov 21st 2013
13
                isiah is GONE...y'all STILL hopeless and sorry. it's been 5 years.
Nov 21st 2013
16
                     lol you brought him up not me.
Nov 21st 2013
17
                     emotion is y'all actin like the Dukes at the end of Trading Places
Nov 21st 2013
20
                          um, i predicted us to lose to indiana last season AND
Nov 21st 2013
21
                               yes, YOU DO believe in moral victories...for your whole franchise
Nov 21st 2013
25
                                    no one cyses the post zeke era...we just say that its better
Nov 21st 2013
26
                     Light an incense!!!! Somebody need some NAMASTE!
Nov 21st 2013
19
           Damn, lmao!
Nov 27th 2013
43
           Boom.
Nov 28th 2013
76
                y'all booming and they sorry as shit
Nov 28th 2013
77
                     post #37.
Nov 28th 2013
78
                          that's in the past like their "successful" season last year
Nov 28th 2013
80
                               Zeke worst.
Nov 29th 2013
86
Kyrie just need to dip at the first opportunity.
Nov 21st 2013
3
Love and Kyrie....2015.
Nov 21st 2013
6
Love and Rondo....2015. I think that is what is going to happen.
Nov 21st 2013
7
YO.
May 25th 2016
316
No Excuses
Nov 21st 2013
8
i'm past that.
Nov 21st 2013
9
      Dude, the East is shitty. The Wiz, Cavs, and Bobcats can all make the 'o...
Nov 21st 2013
15
           i want lottery and kyrie to be an all-star
Nov 21st 2013
18
                I'm holding out. See what Otto got. Hopefully the old forwards get right...
Nov 21st 2013
22
                     Good luck...and I'll give you props if they make it.
Nov 21st 2013
27
lol...
Nov 21st 2013
10
This is why I asked you how you felt about the Dion pick
Nov 21st 2013
23
Not worse than James Dolan.
Nov 21st 2013
24
A suggestion that Ba is right and none of it is Kyrie's fault
Nov 27th 2013
What exactly has Jonas shown?
Nov 27th 2013
29
tristan is more or less what everyone thought he'd be
Nov 27th 2013
32
looks like klay and kawhi would have been the only better picks
Nov 27th 2013
34
nothing
Nov 27th 2013
35
Look, I don't make excuses for NO REASON
Nov 27th 2013
31
      Soooo you're admitting defeat on Bennett?
Nov 27th 2013
33
      I'm admitting he not he not helping RIGHT NOW. AT ALL!
Nov 27th 2013
40
      Dion Waiters is about 40X better than JR Smith
Nov 27th 2013
36
           well thats not true at all.
Nov 27th 2013
38
           JR is not capable of being a really good. He is what he is.
Nov 27th 2013
42
                put him on the spurs he'd instantly be plus d/efficient offense
Nov 27th 2013
45
                     Zero teams would take JR Smith over Lance Stephenson today. Zero.
Nov 27th 2013
46
                          if you can run in here to halfass blame j.r. for melo's situation
Nov 27th 2013
51
                               Nah, I'm not blaming JR Smith for anything.
Nov 27th 2013
53
           Two quick counters
Nov 27th 2013
39
           That is spectacularly wrong.
Nov 27th 2013
41
                nigga, holla back when kyrie 30
Nov 27th 2013
47
                     Yeah, it took that long for Carmelo to NOT make the playoffs.
Nov 27th 2013
49
                          Weird because I've only used the phrase "in that corne" re: Otto
Nov 27th 2013
52
                               You said you wanted Otto to be a "glue guy"
Nov 27th 2013
55
                                    enjoy your Holiday, bro.
Nov 27th 2013
56
           L
May 25th 2016
317
A suggestion that Ba is right and none of it is Kyrie's fault
Nov 27th 2013
28
No! http://tinyurl.com/lgse7ff
Nov 27th 2013
30
You mean Eddy "the best young center in the league" Curry?
Nov 27th 2013
37
Cavs might have to move a pick if they want to move him
Nov 27th 2013
44
I would take him for turner if we got a first
Nov 27th 2013
48
      lmfao. of course you would and you ain't gettin a first nigga.
Nov 27th 2013
57
Buddy ball lmao
Nov 27th 2013
50
This shit ain't funny, man. I told y'all he was a jealous ass BAMMA
Nov 27th 2013
54
I don't know about you but him being jealous is funny as hell to me
Nov 27th 2013
58
cleveland not trading the fuckin pick, man. you sound crazy
Nov 27th 2013
59
Congratulations
Nov 27th 2013
63
RE: This shit ain't funny, man. I told y'all he was a jealous ass BAMMA
Nov 28th 2013
68
Lol This shit is funny. Cavs need a leader who shares & leads by example
Nov 27th 2013
60
i hope blatche and nick young come back to DC, nigga
Nov 27th 2013
61
Woody's head would explode if Jr & Dion start running shyt in NY
Nov 27th 2013
62
Waiters would be the 2nd best Knick by a wide margin
Nov 27th 2013
65
      His selfishness would make Melo seem like a Magic disciple
Nov 28th 2013
69
           Carmelo been playing with JR Smith most of his career
Nov 30th 2013
94
Dion is right
Nov 28th 2013
74
take your scanvenger imploded agenda refugee ass elsewhere
Nov 28th 2013
75
dion is a damn hater.
Nov 28th 2013
85
don't like waiters but honestly i can see where he is coming from
Nov 29th 2013
87
      fuck him. he getting shipped out.
Nov 30th 2013
92
Kyrie freezing him out, just like Isiah did MJ?
Nov 27th 2013
64
he gettin traded. it don't even matter
Nov 28th 2013
66
      Can't wait
Nov 28th 2013
67
           He need to come to D.C. where the pg ain't ALL IN THE VIDEOS...
Nov 28th 2013
72
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Nov 28th 2013
70
http://oi41.tinypic.com/a9l2lj.jpg
Nov 28th 2013
71
http://tinyurl.com/mg2e5m3
Nov 28th 2013
73
Guess I'll be the one to point out Dion shot 7-14 while Ky went 6-19
Nov 28th 2013
79
be the one to do it every game
Nov 28th 2013
81
      RE: be the one to do it every game
Nov 28th 2013
82
for the record, I called the plea cop...i just didn't think Waiters woul...
Nov 28th 2013
83
Your whole franchise done, so...
Nov 28th 2013
84
      They might finish with a better record even without Rose
Nov 29th 2013
88
      yeah, who would it be embarrassing for if...
Nov 29th 2013
89
           Carmelo is barely top 15, and a bum though...nobody likes him.
Nov 29th 2013
90
                nah...
Nov 30th 2013
91
                     Yah...the facts are the facts. ESPN said Carmelo was barely top 15.
Nov 30th 2013
93
                          "fakechise" player, right?
Nov 30th 2013
95
                          nah...
Nov 30th 2013
96
                          Good grief...talk about diversions...you mad at Carmelo cuz Kyrie bad?
Nov 30th 2013
97
                               nah...
Nov 30th 2013
99
                                    Yeah, you mad.
Nov 30th 2013
101
                                         nah...
Nov 30th 2013
104
                                              This post about Waiters and Kyrie; you in here talking about Carmelo.
Nov 30th 2013
113
                                                   also a pimpinchicaGO win
Nov 30th 2013
118
                          you mad because they right
Nov 30th 2013
98
                               Nah, a Knicks tank is a win-win for Carmelo
Nov 30th 2013
100
                               knicks don't have their fucking pick, you knowledgeable knick fan
Nov 30th 2013
102
                               lmao
Nov 30th 2013
106
                               Ooop
Nov 30th 2013
107
                               just keep OE talking and he'll eventually lose the argument
Nov 30th 2013
108
                               They can get one in a Melo trade though, sooooooo
Nov 30th 2013
111
                                    maybe. as long as you know they don't actually have one coming NOW
Nov 30th 2013
114
                               ^^^^ this losing streak is the best thing for everyone
Nov 30th 2013
105
                                    pleas ... Pleas ... PLEAS! (c) James Brown
Nov 30th 2013
109
                                         for who? Melo or the Knicks?
Nov 30th 2013
110
                                              Exactamundo. 'Melo about to come out of this looking great
Nov 30th 2013
112
                                                   i've never seen building a case to be traded as a positive before
Nov 30th 2013
115
                                                        Carmelo signed to play with the Amare of 2010
Nov 30th 2013
126
                                                             insurance companies pretty much did n/m
Nov 30th 2013
127
                                                                  Amare Stoudemire is the franchise player on the Knicks.
Dec 01st 2013
133
                               If they right then Kyrie takes Cleveland to the playoffs
Nov 30th 2013
121
      what sucks...i thought Kyrie would get at least 5 wins
Nov 30th 2013
116
           your whole franchise done.....soooooooooooo....
Nov 30th 2013
117
                your franchise is nonexistant
Nov 30th 2013
119
                     ooooooh burn
Nov 30th 2013
120
                     AYOOOOO!!!! That Francis and Cuttino line, fam
Nov 30th 2013
122
I've watched just abt every Cavs game thus far this season and I
Nov 30th 2013
123
okay...have you noticed he's the only one who moves without the ball
Nov 30th 2013
124
      There may be some truth to that but that could be because they're
Nov 30th 2013
125
           watch the cavs tonight and watch him have to TELL niggas to swing it
Nov 30th 2013
128
Guess I'll be the one; Dion 8-10 for 20Pts Kyrie 7-21 for 19Pts on the B...
Nov 30th 2013
129
Holla when Dion hittin GWs and dropping 40pts
Nov 30th 2013
130
      nigga this is YOUR post lol
Nov 30th 2013
131
           Again: Dion about 4X better than any Carmelo teammate
Dec 01st 2013
132
           I hope you get that trade
Dec 01st 2013
134
                JR Smith makes Dion Waiters look like John Stockton
Dec 01st 2013
141
                     But Melo is the one who wanted JR on the squad lol -- and for the
Dec 02nd 2013
143
           Your whole franchise is a wrap, Scavenger
Dec 01st 2013
135
                we are still a playoff team
Dec 01st 2013
136
                     nigga, the pick protected 1-10...just shut up and be sorry
Dec 01st 2013
137
                          Ha. Both Snell/Gibson were found late 1st.
Dec 01st 2013
138
                          WTF? Dogg, Charlotte will not be drafting outside Top 10
Dec 01st 2013
140
                          #factsonly
Dec 01st 2013
139
*looks at Drummonds stat line*
Dec 01st 2013
142
Guess I'll be the one: Dion scored 30 off the bench, Kyrie scored zero p...
Dec 06th 2013
144
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p18/LH2man/Funnees/gifsFav/clint-nod....
Dec 06th 2013
145
It's a damn shame. Dion needs some help.
Dec 06th 2013
146
my nigga, PLEASE holla at me when dion waiters is a FUCKING ALL STAR
Dec 06th 2013
147
Should be interesting
Dec 06th 2013
148
maybe it'll be the Mavs...you been there, right?
Dec 07th 2013
149
Carlisle seems to have Monta tuned up nicely
Dec 07th 2013
Why would Waiters be traded? Cavs need a guard who shares the rock
Dec 07th 2013
150
      Kyrie has more popularity. If they got rid of Kyrie....
Dec 07th 2013
151
      I'd do Kyrie for Anthony Davis or any of Randle/Wiggins/Parker
Dec 07th 2013
152
           dion waiters will never be a fuckin all-star...should have DRUMMOND
Dec 07th 2013
154
           nah, I'm pretty sure Dion will be an all-star one day
Dec 07th 2013
158
                keep rolling with that hard-working middle-america bullshit
Dec 07th 2013
171
                     How would Drummond have helped Kyrie not score zero points on the Hawks?...
Dec 07th 2013
178
                          search deep in your soul, nigga. once he leaves the cavs...
Dec 07th 2013
191
           You couldn't get Kyrie for Anthony Davis
Dec 07th 2013
165
      you fake like you a cavs fan who just want a better team
Dec 07th 2013
153
           As your boy and supporter, I gotta admit that you're in a panic
Dec 07th 2013
155
           nigga, i made a thread WEEKS AGO admitting i was in a panic...
Dec 07th 2013
156
                JR Smith is a worse teammate, human and player than Jack or Waiters
Dec 07th 2013
159
                     this ain't karma...karma is kyrie being 30 the star of shit show
Dec 07th 2013
162
           all he's gotta do is D up and pass
Dec 07th 2013
157
           I really just wish dude would play the game like a damn point guard
Dec 07th 2013
160
           what SPECIFICALLY is he supposed to do?
Dec 07th 2013
164
                P&R? Pass to the open man when he draws 3 defenders? Not over-dribble?
Dec 07th 2013
168
                     NBA bigs are SUPPOSED to not bring the fuckin ball down
Dec 07th 2013
179
           and all dion had to do was show up in shape and check his ego...
Dec 07th 2013
161
           come to The Show
Dec 07th 2013
166
                FUCK A HURT KNEE...THE NIGGA WAS FAT AS FUCK
Dec 07th 2013
169
                     Waiters can be harnessed
Dec 07th 2013
175
                          he was an entitled fat fuck at 'cuse...he's the same NOW
Dec 07th 2013
184
                               freshman year - kind've, soph year- not even close
Dec 07th 2013
188
                                    He not the best best player on the team
Dec 07th 2013
190
           http://oi44.tinypic.com/zvshee.jpg
Dec 07th 2013
193
           Like I give a fuck about college ball... lmao
Dec 07th 2013
163
                you don't deserve jabari. you don't deserve shit.
Dec 07th 2013
167
                     Kyrie is disappointing this season. I though he'd be an MVP candidate
Dec 07th 2013
170
                     RE: you don't deserve jabari. you don't deserve shit.
Dec 07th 2013
172
                          yes, it's true. he was disappointing.
Dec 07th 2013
173
                          RE: yes, it's true. he was disappointing.
Dec 07th 2013
177
                               we just disagree.
Dec 07th 2013
180
                                    RE: we just disagree.
Dec 07th 2013
183
                                         we disagree
Dec 07th 2013
185
                          Lol....he's so dedicated to that false narrative, he can't go back now
Dec 07th 2013
174
                               dogg, it wasn't a shot...
Dec 07th 2013
176
                                    RE: dogg, it wasn't a shot...
Dec 07th 2013
181
                                         yeah, and RBO was beggin for them niggas to get tossed...
Dec 07th 2013
182
                                              RE: yeah, and RBO was beggin for them niggas to get tossed...
Dec 07th 2013
186
                                                   Google it
Dec 07th 2013
187
                                                        RE: Google it
Dec 07th 2013
189
.
Dec 07th 2013
192
Dion's outshooting Kyrie by 40 points in FG% & TS% and 90 points in 3pt%
Dec 07th 2013
194
no. i don't care about kyrie.
Dec 07th 2013
200
      this entire post is actually about kyrie.
Dec 07th 2013
203
           lmao
Dec 08th 2013
216
Really more about Kyrie's 0 points in a blowout L, isn't it?
Dec 07th 2013
195
      proving dion cant carry the team.
Dec 07th 2013
199
           yeah, if he was any good he would've had 60
Dec 07th 2013
201
           Greg Monroe Carries Teams?
Dec 08th 2013
211
                Either of them claiming to?
Dec 08th 2013
212
                     Dion claiming to?
Dec 08th 2013
213
                          dion called himself a fuckin star...fuck him
Dec 08th 2013
214
                               you said bennett was gonna be a star
Dec 08th 2013
218
                                    did bennett?
Dec 09th 2013
224
                                         only thing derailing is Kyrie's shooting %
Dec 11th 2013
237
                                              we ALL know the numbers will be there, so why party so hard?
Dec 11th 2013
238
                                                   getting it in while the getting's good
Dec 11th 2013
239
                                                        is it? they've won 4 of 5 and he back to 21/6
Dec 11th 2013
240
                                                             Cavs are still trash and he's still shooting 40%, so yeah it is
Dec 11th 2013
241
                                                                  well, i wasn't think of you specifically
Dec 11th 2013
242
                                                                       nah, this is payback for your knicks/melo harrassment
Dec 11th 2013
243
                                                                            damn, never knew you like the knicks all this time...
Dec 11th 2013
244
sad how a bunch of yall let agendas ruin your own team
Dec 07th 2013
196
There are a bunch of actual Cavs fans on here?
Dec 07th 2013
197
there are a couple in this post
Dec 07th 2013
198
      kevlar and who else?
Dec 07th 2013
204
           Shouldn't be any... That's the point
Dec 07th 2013
205
                you brought this on yourself dude
Dec 07th 2013
207
                     it's worth it for the comeback, when everybody want quiet
Dec 08th 2013
223
Exactly
Dec 07th 2013
202
Yep I'm just shitting on Kyrie for no reason
Dec 07th 2013
206
Who else CAPABLE of CONSISTENTLY puttin up 20ppg?
Dec 08th 2013
208
      Waiters averaged 20 pts a game last week. He's in his 2nd year
Dec 08th 2013
209
           Let him do it a YEAR, bitch
Dec 08th 2013
210
                He has to have the ball in order to score
Dec 09th 2013
231
                     oh, for real? gotta have TALENT to WARRANT getting those shots
Dec 09th 2013
232
Kyrie has accomplished nothing and supporters are BLAMING Waiters
Dec 08th 2013
215
nah....cysing waiters to shit on kyrie is pathetic
Dec 08th 2013
219
everyone on planet earth said this year was playoffs or bust for the cav...
Dec 08th 2013
217
      nigga, the season ends in april...and they one spot of the playoffs.
Dec 08th 2013
220
           ppl predicted them to be a 4th or 5th seed...not 8th
Dec 08th 2013
221
                you muhfuckan right, baby steps...
Dec 08th 2013
222
First off this post is dumb as hell...
Dec 09th 2013
225
nah, the new narrative of a month ain't gonna do 2 years of 4th quarters
Dec 09th 2013
226
      The fuck you mean???
Dec 09th 2013
227
           aight...you jokin...carry on
Dec 09th 2013
228
           this stan is not gonna be honest about the situation
Dec 09th 2013
229
                and you just a piling-on bitch like every other crazy cavs fan
Dec 09th 2013
230
guess I'll be the one? 37/11 vs 6/4
Dec 10th 2013
233
fuck him and that silly ass copy/paste routine. they produce BUSTS!
Dec 10th 2013
234
2nd year Dion was off. Glad Kyrie showed up tonight & shared the ball
Dec 10th 2013
235
      They'd be better if they traded Dion
Dec 10th 2013
236
There's no way Brown thought Dion was gonna pass the ball to Kyrie
Dec 28th 2013
245
Kyrie has no issue with Dion. It's one-sided
Dec 28th 2013
246
I just want him fuckin gone. This is painful.
Dec 29th 2013
247
Up this thread when Dion has a good game
Dec 29th 2013
248
i don't have to say anything. dion's play speaks for itself
Dec 29th 2013
249
      You re-read the thread, trig.
Dec 30th 2013
250
           Dogg, Kyrie has lived up to billing...Dion hasn't. Bottomline.
Dec 30th 2013
251
Dion's FG and 3 pt. % are better than Kyrie's this year
Dec 30th 2013
252
that will be reversed in two weeks, dude. and we all know it.
Dec 30th 2013
253
lol @ the botched 2-on-1 break & the iso brick after he waved off Andy
Dec 30th 2013
254
The gift that keeps on giving.
Dec 30th 2013
255
http://www.totalmortgage.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/mortgage-se...
Dec 30th 2013
256
Apparently Basa thinks supersstars can't win by themselves
Dec 30th 2013
257
Last year, Melo actually won a LOT. his TEAM *helped* him
Dec 30th 2013
259
Lol....there's no superstar mentioned in this post.
Dec 30th 2013
262
      like blatche and McGee and Young and Crawford? OOOOHHHHHHHHH
Dec 30th 2013
265
           Who all put up their best numbers WITH John Wall?
Dec 30th 2013
266
                like Dion, Tristan, Andy, CJ Miles had their best years with Kyrie?
Dec 30th 2013
268
                     Those are Dion and Tristan's ONLY years. Lol.
Dec 30th 2013
270
                          that's the point, genius
Dec 30th 2013
272
Ky Ky gon be on stage with Bron and Wade tho...like this
Dec 30th 2013
258
      Kyrie is gonna approach the playoffs like this...
Dec 30th 2013
260
           Oh, it's his third year...i can wait. So.....
Dec 30th 2013
261
                What happened with this year? And wasn't it year 3 he'll take the league...
Dec 30th 2013
263
                     if he makes it this year...fine. if he don't...fine.
Dec 30th 2013
264
                          If? Nigga he ain't making it. Lmao.
Dec 30th 2013
267
                               yeah, it's all they fault.
Dec 30th 2013
269
                                    Kyrie is the basketball equivalent to a Dinco D verse on a posse cut
Dec 30th 2013
271
                                         Wall the basketball equilvalent of the Apple Pippin
Dec 30th 2013
275
                                              I have no idea what that is but if it doesn't equate to Superstar NBA PG...
Dec 30th 2013
276
                                                   oh, so HIS no jacket ass a superstar? you back on that again, huh?
Dec 30th 2013
277
weird how much of the offense is facilitated by Waiters
Dec 30th 2013
273
kyrie is the best shooter and scorer on the team...by too wide a margin
Dec 30th 2013
274
      Kyrie is fantastic. too good for u to need to knock Curry to defend him
Dec 30th 2013
278
           i was one of few here who thought curry could be a star in the L
Dec 30th 2013
279
so...should we revist this one too?
Mar 23rd 2014
280
26 and 8 yesterday, after 30 and 4, and 17 and 11
Mar 23rd 2014
281
honestly, i was hungover as hell this morning.
Mar 23rd 2014
282
      22 pts/ on 9/17 shooting tonight
Mar 23rd 2014
284
so pressed.
Mar 23rd 2014
283
24 and 7 tonight. I'm so glad we revisited this!
Mar 25th 2014
287
Game winning buzzer beater tonight!
Mar 26th 2014
289
      agreed. this was, as i pointed out, a bad hangover uppage.
Mar 27th 2014
290
           Are you seriously asking why two undersized, ball hogging chuckers
Mar 27th 2014
292
                lol
Mar 27th 2014
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Wait, I thought Dion Waiters was the problem?
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So many significant L's...
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Basa stay collecting Ls
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Am I insane, RIGHT TODAY, for wanting to trade Dion for TJR?
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RE: Am I insane, RIGHT TODAY, for wanting to trade Dion for TJR?
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so um...
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RE: so um...
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Dion is always on the edge of fucking it up. Lets be clear.
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Premature uppage nm
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I agree.
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      and yet there's no payoff for me if ky gets one at a scrub''s expense
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           such is the corner into which you find yourself backed
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           RE: and yet there's no payoff for me if ky gets one at a scrub''s expens...
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           Waiters is the ultimate under dog.
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your team sorry. don't to get back cysing a dude dropping 10ppg
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i only watched the first half last night
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Screw a final stat line in a game like this, Dion played quality b-ball
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That's all it takes for a former #4 pick?
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      I see you removed the part where I said it was pre-mature uppage.
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      Imagine he plays like this every game next year
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           Of course it would be upworthy. That would mean that he's been consiste...
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      RE: That's all it takes for a former #4 pick?
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      I have no part in this agenda at all...
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           he's a Georgetown fan who is mad
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stupid post
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      "watched the first half"
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           yeah, just watch the games and you'll be more informed
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                nice non-answer.
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                     I only read the first half of the post, but still replied to it
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                          was his second half better than his first? it's an easy question
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                               he's been real solid in the 2016 playoffs
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                                    he's been a role player in the playoffs.
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                                         he's playing well......no reason to be butthurt about it
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                                         i'm butthurt? weird reading of what happened here.
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                                              tripping over yourself to try to diminish his play and importance
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                                                   i tripped over myself? ok.
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                                                        yes. Tried to shit on him over a game they won, that you didn't even wa...
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                                                        there's 3 posters above w/no dog in the fight who think u doing too much
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                                         meanwhile you were cysing Otto's 10 ppg in the playoffs last year
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                                              damn, good memory
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                                              2nd year, under used apples to already traded, fourth year bench grade o...
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                                                   Role player on a great OKC team>>>role player on a nobody Washington squ...
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                                                   so now the cysing is how well Dion rides coattails?
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                                                        as opposed to cysing how well Otto rides coattails?
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                                                   2nd year "most NBA ready player in his draft" scoring 10 ppg off bench
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It ain't about 10 ppg
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      my dude, i have left dion alone. why y'all on get back now?
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           I didn't up the post or make a new post
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                no matter how bad the team, he will ALWAYS be a ROLE PLAYER
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                     And on a good team, Kyrie will always be a sidekick #2 or #3
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                          so?
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                               8....LOL
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ah, POOPINCHICAGO...
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      he so salty, young. damn.
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what kind of "restraining order highly recommended" BS was this?
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we're enjoying ourselves. be nice.
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LOL
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Well this is a clear W on the Kyrie side
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RE: Well this is a clear W on the Kyrie side
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and the clear L on the PIPE < Dion side
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Depends on when you bought stock in Dion I guess...
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One positive aspect of this thread
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Tryna get a cheap W and jinxed the fuck outta OKC. Congrats.
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Russ and KD playing pre-Lebron Kyrie hero bullshit ball down the stretch
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      And Dion was Dion...gon always be Dion
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           playing hard and not touching the ball, SMH
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                my bad...you on your default dion the martyr shit. enjoy that.
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                     NOPE! You didnt blame JR, and 87 year old Kidd, and hobbled Tyson
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                          back up....
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                               A role player that's played good ball all playoffs
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                               but still a role player, nonetheless
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                               Dion shot 3 outta 18 the last three games. Just saying...
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                               but i'm just a salty hoyas fan, and I missed the first quarter
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...and he MAD!!!
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so mad...lol. he won't quit either
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Castro
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1. "YOU are the jinx. Stop talking about the Cavs and it will get better."
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2. "i left the knicks alone ater Zeke bounced...how y'all doing, dogg?"
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4. "we just had our best season in a decade and no one got"
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sued for sexual harassment.

so....better?

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5. "EXACTLY."
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12. "y'all went home EXACTLY when i said you would. "
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and y'all stuck in limbo with overpaid declining fake "stars" EXACTLY like i said

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14. "we went home when I said we would too. lol "
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did we go further than anytime with zeke??

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103. "sizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzle"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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11. "nah, you just got a fake gang member and some generative knees"
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y'all suck and don't even have a lottery pick. shut up.

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13. "did we just win 54 games, make it to the 2nd round and "
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not have to spend the offseason in court defending a sexual harassment claim or not?

A simple yes or no devoid of emotion and anger will suffice.

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16. "isiah is GONE...y'all STILL hopeless and sorry. it's been 5 years. "
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17. "lol you brought him up not me."
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now you don't want to talk about it? lolz

I detected emotion by the way.

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20. "emotion is y'all actin like the Dukes at the end of Trading Places"
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You, OE, that Cuse fans and all the rest of Knicks fans been on "Turn those machines back on" status ever since PG locked your fat star up for 3 4th quarters last May.

Let's be reality. You BEEN hurt. And you was hurt last night and I ain't even go in.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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21. "um, i predicted us to lose to indiana last season AND "
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thought we'd get killed yesterday. i don't believe in moral victories for a vet team, but I was pleased that we actually competed for a change.

See I can be honest about the knicks and when they suck. Can you be honest about us having better seasons with melo then we ever had with zeke since YOU the one that brought up zeke?

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25. "yes, YOU DO believe in moral victories...for your whole franchise"
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that's why y'all cyse the post-isiah era so much. y'all STILL SORRY...with allegedly one of the top 5 players in the L.

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26. "no one cyses the post zeke era...we just say that its better"
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than THEE ZEKE ERA lol.

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19. "Light an incense!!!! Somebody need some NAMASTE!"
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Calm down Mush, just don't look at my dice!

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43. "Damn, lmao!"
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>sued for sexual harassment.
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>so....better?

  

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76. "Boom."
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>sued for sexual harassment.
>
>so....better?


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77. "y'all booming and they sorry as shit"
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78. "post #37."
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80. "that's in the past like their "successful" season last year"
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86. "Zeke worst."
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3. "Kyrie just need to dip at the first opportunity."
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it aint gonna work in cleveland.

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6. "Love and Kyrie....2015."
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7. "Love and Rondo....2015. I think that is what is going to happen."
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316. "YO."
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8. "No Excuses"
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9. "i'm past that. "
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"no excuses" and "i don't care, just make it through the season" are easily occupying the same spot in my mind.

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15. "Dude, the East is shitty. The Wiz, Cavs, and Bobcats can all make the 'o..."
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Now would that mean anything in the long run or development of these young teams? Who knows.

But yeah, if I was you, I'd be mad at the front office fucking up your guys future since they've had many opportunities.

Taking Tristan and not picking Jonas. That looks like a fuck up. But who knows with foreign guys.

Taking Dion, thinking he'd mesh with Kyrie. That's a fuck up.

I still like Bennett, but the player development has to be on point. From watching him yesterday, his body language didn't look good. And it'd be sad, if the situation gets too big for him this early and ruins his career, because contrary to some dudes that see a pile on and love to do a Great Muta Moonsault on top, Bennett is a tremendous talent. Him and T.T. might be a bit redundant.

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18. "i want lottery and kyrie to be an all-star"
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you can't be stubborn and prideful all you want. WALL gonna be in limbo for YEARS.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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22. "I'm holding out. See what Otto got. Hopefully the old forwards get right..."
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27. "Good luck...and I'll give you props if they make it. "
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but, it's long-game time. I've seen enough.

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10. "lol..."
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>2. I apologize to everyone who said Beal was a beast...even
>Chad Ford. I also even apologize to Truth, even though he's a
>bamma and this is the only thing he's ever been right about on
>this board, as far as I can remember. And I'm still ignoring
>all his posts like he don't exists.

I was right about your boy AR too.. You been mad every since I clowned your dumb ass for trying to be "deep" with Shawn in the Jeremy Lin Reloaded post. You don't have to respond to my posts, I know you are still reading them, lol.

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23. "This is why I asked you how you felt about the Dion pick"
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when they drafted him.

The Cavs are at least 'trying' but they seem to always fuck things up somehow (along with a bit of bad luck).

Tristan was prolly the right pick in 2011 after they got Kyrie. Only Klay was prolly deserving of consideration at #4 but that was still kinda high for him at the time. Maybe they trade down with the Warriors and net a young big or something and get Klay but outside of that...eh. Faried, Nikola Vucevic were unknowns.

Only Jonas woulda been a better pick and it took a season for him to get to the US. Then instead of taking Singler or Parsons in the second round, they took Justin Harper...another PF. Dumb. They needed shooters to develop to open the floor for Kyrie and had a guy with double-double potential at #4 already.

in 2012, everybody but the Cavs knew the picks for them were either, Barnes or Drummond. A SF that could shoot and play D and not have to worry about being the #1 guy (nor prolly doesn't desire that designation) but could grow and help that team win or a Big C to develop as insurance because Andy is fragile (if you're gonna take a chance on Bynum, may as well done so with Drummond).

And this yr Ben McLemore shoulda been the pick, even with #1. Trade Waiters for a SF. Maybe to ATL in a sign and trade for Josh Smith or Den for Iggy. Shoulda took Plumlee and kept Allen Crabbe too.

Kyrie
B-Mac
Josh or Iggy
Tristan
Drummond

^^^How I woulda did it.

He not gonna win a title in Clev (unless Bron come back).


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24. "Not worse than James Dolan."
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One is murdering your message board agenda. The other is murdering an entire SPORT for 8.3 million people.

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"A suggestion that Ba is right and none of it is Kyrie's fault"


  

          

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10042361/cleveland-cavaliers-hurting-chances-lebron-james-return

In early December 2010, LeBron James returned to Cleveland for the first time since signing with the Miami Heat as a free agent the previous summer. James' new team handed his old one a 118-90 shellacking, part of the early stages of a stretch that saw the Cavaliers lose 36 of their next 37 games. Consider that return the Ghost of LeBron Past.

Tonight's meeting, the first between Cleveland and Miami this season, was supposed to be the Ghost of LeBron Future -- a chance for the Cavaliers to demonstrate to James how far they'd come since then, and potentially even the start of a pitch to bring James back to Cleveland as a free agent next summer. Instead, with the Cavaliers mired in a disappointing 4-10 start to the season that has featured more players-only meetings (1) than wins by double figures (0), it serves as a painful reminder that their rebuilding plan has gone off track. The culprit? The front office's failure to turn a bevy of high draft picks into production on the court.

Over the last three drafts, Cleveland has made a league-high six first-round picks -- two per year, including four selections in the lottery. Twice, the Cavaliers have picked fourth, and in both 2011 and 2013 they landed the No. 1 overall pick. Yet only one of these picks, point guard Kyrie Irving, ranks among Cleveland's top five players in terms of wins above replacement (WARP) this season. While Irving is off to a slow start this season, he reached the All-Star Game before his 21st birthday and is ahead of schedule in terms of his development, even for a top pick. But the Cavaliers' other first-rounders have yet to produce the kind of supporting cast that could take Cleveland back to the postseason and convince James, or another top free agent, that the Cavaliers are a superstar away from championship contention.

Based on nearly a decade's worth of drafts, we can establish a baseline for expected performance from various picks in each season of their career. For example, a typical No. 1 pick would produce 7.3 WARP during his third year, or 1.2 over the 14 games Cleveland has played thus far. Irving, with 1.4, has actually outperformed this mark. The Cavaliers' other first-round picks have not:

Player Pick Expected WARP Actual WARP
Kyrie Irving 1 1.2 1.4
Tristan Thompson 4 0.8 0.1
Dion Waiters 4 0.5 0.0
Tyler Zeller 17 0.2 -0.1
Anthony Bennett 1 0.5 -0.4
Sergey Karasev 19 0.1 -0.1
Total 3.4 0.9
Besides Irving 2.2 -0.5
We'd expect the five other first-round picks besides Irving to have produced about 2.2 WARP so far this season. Instead, four of the five have rated near replacement level with Anthony Bennett's sub-replacement production thus far during his rookie season dragging the group down. The deficit of nearly three wins essentially explains the difference between Cleveland's actual start and a .500 record. That such a large group of players is struggling suggests a systematic issue. Let's take a closer look at the other three lottery picks.

Tristan Thompson (No. 4, 2011)


Thompson
The Cavaliers may have reached for Thompson with the second of their two top-four picks in 2011. Insider's Chad Ford rated him seventh on his big board, behind three players who were still available -- Jonas Valanciunas, Brandon Knight and Kawhi Leonard.

Thompson has proven a serviceable power forward, and played well during the second half of last season, when his 4.1 WARP put him ahead of the expectation for a second-year No. 4 pick (3.2). While converting from shooting with his left hand to his right hand has helped Thompson at the free throw line, where he's shooting 75.4 percent, he's having a tough time finishing around the rim and is making just 43.2 percent of his 2-point attempts. At best, Thompson has yet to demonstrate the upside that would justify drafting him ahead of Valanciunas.

Dion Waiters (No. 4, 2012)


Waiters
Another year, another surprise from Cleveland on draft night. Waiters too was rated seventh on Ford's Big Board, behind Damian Lillard, Andre Drummond and Thomas Robinson. Though a point guard would have made little sense for a team that already had Irving, and the Cavaliers don't look likely to regret passing on Robinson, they again opted against drafting a high-upside center. Already a starter in his second season, Drummond has star potential.

By contrast, Waiters' sophomore campaign has been troubling. On the court, he's shown little growth in his shot selection or consistency. Waiters too has been unable to finish around the basket, which won't likely continue. But he won't be an efficient scorer until he turns more of his long 2-point attempts (which represent 38.3 percent of his shots, per NBA.com/Stats) into 3-pointers (24.2 percent of his shots). As an undersized volume scorer, he's probably best suited in a reserve role, not starting next to Irving.

Anthony Bennett (No. 1, 2013)


Bennett
Then there's Bennett, whose terrible shooting start (he missed his first 16 shot attempts) drew boos from Cleveland fans last week and has produced a 2.3 PER to date. Continuing the theme, the Cavaliers went for Ford's fourth-rated player with the No. 1 pick. In part, they were handcuffed by this year's draft class. Aside from No. 11 pick Michael Carter-Williams, another point guard, none of this year's rookies has separated from the pack. In fact, No. 12 overall selection Steven Adams is the only other lottery pick who currently rates better than replacement level.

In time, Bennett will surely play better. He was an accurate shooter during his lone season at UNLV, suggesting the shooting slump is more a product of rust after shoulder surgery and shot selection (27 of his 42 shot attempts have come outside the paint, including 2-of-15 3-point shooting) than lack of skill. Bennett needs to work to improve his conditioning and learn how he can get his shots at the NBA level, but it's far too early to write him off.

Of course, Bennett also plays the same position as Thompson -- the first month of his career has put to rest any notions he could play on the wing -- and wasn't seen as the top pick of the draft outside the Cleveland draft room. So his upside is probably more as a complementary piece than a second star.

Starting with Bennett, all three top picks are bound to play better the rest of the season. Unless things change drastically, however, it may be too late even in the dismal Eastern Conference to produce the kind of exciting playoff run the Cavaliers would have needed to have a chance to parlay their 2014 cap space into one of the top players available. Since the current crop of talent seems unlikely to yield a second star to go with Irving, signing one in free agency was the best hope Cleveland had of jumping into contention. As a result, the Cavaliers' draft reaches could haunt them for years to come.

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29. "What exactly has Jonas shown?"
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Thompson was a reach but, honestly, he wasn't a bad pick.

"At best, Thompson has yet to demonstrate the upside that would justify drafting him ahead of Valanciunas."

I haven't seen a ton of Jonas but I really don't see how he is somehow better than Tristan or someone you need to justify passing on. That comment is also odd given that the other guy they passed on was Kawhi, who is the best of the bunch. (And they weren't going to draft Brandon Knight with Kyrie in tow.)

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32. "tristan is more or less what everyone thought he'd be"
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he was a reach at 4 but it was a weak draft.

  

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34. "looks like klay and kawhi would have been the only better picks"
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it's a lot of okay pfs/cs in the draft but none i'd honestly say are all thatmuch better or have a better future than tristan

  

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35. "nothing"
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he plays with derozan, lowry, and rudy "top shotta" gay.\
that's why the edict in Tdot is everyone's available but Jonas.


a high pnr w/ kyrie and jonas is better than any set cle or tor is running.

  

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31. "Look, I don't make excuses for NO REASON"
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when Cam was being a bitch and missing open guys and sulking, I called him on it. He needed to be better.

I question Coach K EVERY YEAR and blame him when Duke flops in March.

I am not gonna blame Kyrie because Bynum can't play 25 minutes, Andy's legs are dead and THEY MISSED ON THREE STRAIGHT TOP FOUR PICKS!!!!!

Nah, I refuse to approach this in a black and white fashion. Kyrie is the LEAST of their problems and if Cavs fans wanna keep being stupid and folding their arms like "Well, he the star, he supposed to win us games" shit, he HAS WON YALL GAMES!!! And they watchin!?!?!? who the fuck else is gonna help him win MORE games?

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33. "Soooo you're admitting defeat on Bennett?"
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40. "I'm admitting he not he not helping RIGHT NOW. AT ALL! "
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____________________________________________________


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36. "Dion Waiters is about 40X better than JR Smith"
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And yet you thought a Carmelo Anthony-led Knicks
team with JR Smith as the second scoring option should beat
an Indiana Pacer team which is looking like a juggernaut
now, with far and away the best starting 5 in basketball

You're not consistent, and therefore people are going
to continue to attack you

AND you threw dirt on Born Ready just to keep up your
shitty agenda....now you're making friends...but it doesn't
work that way: be smart, clear, and think shit through

Sorry, guy

  

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38. "well thats not true at all. "
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jr smith is capable of being reallllly good at basketball. he just hasn't given any fucks for most of career.

  

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42. "JR is not capable of being a really good. He is what he is. "
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>jr smith is capable of being reallllly good at basketball. he
>just hasn't given any fucks for most of career.

He's a shitty, sometimey shooter scorer who will never
have a meaningful role on a relevant team.

That is Carmelo's #2 option.

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45. "put him on the spurs he'd instantly be plus d/efficient offense"
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j.r.'s only negative is he's got a little gunner and a little sjax in him. but he mirrors the character of the teams he's on.

he could easily fill in your boy lance's spot.

the leader on the knicks is a stats stuff whose career will be defined by one huge gamble in choice of team that ended up being a poor decision. j.r. is just falling in with the example of his team leadership.

  

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46. "Zero teams would take JR Smith over Lance Stephenson today. Zero. "
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>j.r.'s only negative is he's got a little gunner and a little
>sjax in him. but he mirrors the character of the teams he's
>on.

No, he's just not very good. Shush.

>he could easily fill in your boy lance's spot.

Well, no, he couldn't actually.

>the leader on the knicks is a stats stuff whose career will be
>defined by one huge gamble in choice of team that ended up
>being a poor decision. j.r. is just falling in with the
>example of his team leadership.

Got it, so we're blaming Carmelo for all of JR Smith's
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51. "if you can run in here to halfass blame j.r. for melo's situation"
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i can halfass blame melo for j.r.....cause thats actually realistic.

j.r. smith's contract and skillset actually would benefit a team like the spurs, heat, thunder, or pacers.

melo's contract and skill set says he actually has to be a cornerstone building a team that good, but he fucked that up.

  

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53. "Nah, I'm not blaming JR Smith for anything. "
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>i can halfass blame melo for j.r.....

JR is what he is. He's not a very good basketball player.
I don't hate him for that. He gave the Knicks his very
best last year, and it was good at times. But he's not a
meaningful basketball player on a good team.


>j.r. smith's contract and skillset actually would benefit a
>team like the spurs, heat, thunder, or pacers.

And JR Smith's contract proves my point: he cost himself
tens of millions of dollars with his playoff performance
and had NO SUITORS outside of the Knicks. Zero. Nobody
wanted him.

>melo's contract and skill set says he actually has to be a
>cornerstone building a team that good, but he fucked that up.

He led a team to a #2 seed, losing to a very good Pacer team
in the plaoyffs. That is a "good team." He did it without the
actual franchise player (going by salary, Amare Stoudemire is)
and an injured Tyson Chandler. He did his part.

No player, Lebron included, gets the Knicks past Indiana
in the playoffs last year.

And I'm not gonna let you forget that you said JR Smith is
as good as Lance Stephenson. ZERO coaches, GMs would take
JR over Born Ready. None.

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39. "Two quick counters "
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1. Carmelo 30 and 11 years deep and has lost series his teams shouldn't have lost. that's why I made the thread last May, because I knew they'd lose. You still so aggy about that shit that you puttin words in my mouth about THIS YEAR when I have not even been saying shit about the Knicks struggles. I flat out don't care about them. I ain't been saying shit, because OBVIOUSLY, I got other shit on my mind with the NBA. Melo at the forefront of YOUR thoughts, not mine, so don't bring all your Melo-centric insights and unsolicited, unnecessary Melo-agenda correlating bullshit in my threads. Take that shit elsewhere.

2. No one threw shit on Lance. I said I don't want him next to Kyrie. I've always wanted a knockdown shooter there and he not that. That's all I said. And I'm admitting now that if take him over Dion...not over Klay, who I fuckin screamed for 3 years ago, but OVER DION. Now, if you so pressed that you can't take a no holds barred "nigga, you was right... I was wrong" on this shit...oh well ... Bye, nigga.

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41. "That is spectacularly wrong. "
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>1. Carmelo 30 and 11 years deep and has lost series his teams
>shouldn't have lost.

You pointed to ONE series against the Jazz; you thought
Denver should have beaten them, EVEN THOUGH THE JAZZ
WAS THE HIGHER SEED, which pretty much shits all over your
"play to seed" criteria.

Either niggas are supposed to "play to seed" or they are not.

Nobody who studies basketball thought the Knicks were better
than the Pacers when the playoffs arrived. Zero. You STILL
used a SUPERIOR TEAM beating an INFERIOR TEAM as fodder for
your DC niggerisms against Baltimore Carmelo.


that's why I made the thread last May,
>because I knew they'd lose. You still so aggy about that shit
>that you puttin words in my mouth about THIS YEAR when I have
>not even been saying shit about the Knicks struggles. I flat
>out don't care about them. I ain't been saying shit, because
>OBVIOUSLY, I got other shit on my mind with the NBA. Melo at
>the forefront of YOUR thoughts, not mine, so don't bring all
>your Melo-centric insights and unsolicited, unnecessary
>Melo-agenda correlating bullshit in my threads. Take that shit
>elsewhere.


Nah, nigga.

Let's look at the facts-

Kyrie's sidekick is Dion Waiters.

Dion Waiters is a better basketball player, by about
4 miles, than JR Smith, who is Carmelo's main sidekick.

Not debatable.

YOU STILL SHAT ALL OVER CARMELO ANTHONY.

But we supposed to be understanding of Kyrie?!?!? All of
a sudden environment matters?

Nigga....no.

Be consistent.

Kyrie's #2 is better than Carmelo's. You blamed CARMELO for
the Knicks woes. NO DISCUSSION, remember?

I wanna hear you discuss KYRIE, and ONLY KYRIE. THAT's IT!

>2. No one threw shit on Lance. I said I don't want him next to
>Kyrie. I've always wanted a knockdown shooter there and he not
>that. That's all I said.

Knockdown shooter? Like Otto Porter?

Just stop.


And I'm admitting now that if take
>him over Dion...not over Klay, who I fuckin screamed for 3
>years ago, but OVER DION. Now, if you so pressed that you
>can't take a no holds barred "nigga, you was right... I was
>wrong" on this shit...oh well ... Bye, nigga.




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47. "nigga, holla back when kyrie 30 "
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i don't wanna go back and forth with you about carmelo. you mad about it and you shoehorn that dude into everything.

and yes, from the CORNER, otto is a knockdown shooter...just like kawhi leonard, or batty, or nick anderson or bruce bowen or any fuckin SF over the past 25 years who hits corner threes at a good clip.

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49. "Yeah, it took that long for Carmelo to NOT make the playoffs. "
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Melo had been there TWO times by the time he was
Kyrie age

But its all environment, right?

Carmelo isn't responsible for his teams NEVER missing
the playoffs

But when Kyrie don't make it, you talking about a goddamn
corner jumpshooter

Nigga, stop it

>i don't wanna go back and forth with you about carmelo. you
>mad about it and you shoehorn that dude into everything.

Nah, you not being consistent

>and yes, from the CORNER, otto is a knockdown shooter...just
>like kawhi leonard, or batty, or nick anderson or bruce bowen
>or any fuckin SF over the past 25 years who hits corner threes
>at a good clip.

Weird, because you just told me Otto was a "glue guy"

Lance could stand around hit fucking threes in the corner
all by himself, good gried

He doesn't, because he's busy running the fucking offense
so that his STAR TEAMMATE can operate how he wants to
operate AND BR defends the opposing team's best wing AND
often makes the sure the 2nd team bums don't ruin the game
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52. "Weird because I've only used the phrase "in that corne" re: Otto"
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Over 20 times on this board and the podcast. I said I want him to replace Gee in that corner. So this once again proves you hear what you wanna hear and you mad about some shit from May.

I understand you prolly sittin there eatin some thick bitch pussy (or whatever dumb shit you gonna say you doing) and smiling thinking you gettin in some good needling. But all you doing is making it harder for yourself moving forward. You don't want me to CARE about the fuckin Knicks and Melo. You really don't.

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55. "You said you wanted Otto to be a "glue guy" "
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>Over 20 times on this board and the podcast. I said I want
>him to replace Gee in that corner. So this once again proves
>you hear what you wanna hear and you mad about some shit from
>May.

Nah, you're not being consistent-

Kyrie hasn't made the playoffs, ever.

Carmelo hasn't missed the playoffs, ever.

In the former case, you blame his teammates, coach,
city, weather, political landscape, menstrual cycles,
star alignments, etc.

In the later case you blame Carmelo Anthony for being shitty
and fat.

Discuss openly and honestly, thine double standard.


>I understand you prolly sittin there eatin some thick bitch
>pussy (or whatever dumb shit you gonna say you doing)

I'm sitting 8 feet from a winning stallion. She reading meaningful
stuff about something. I'm making you mad. We going to see some
Hunger Games in a few, after which I might very well do some
eating, after I pick my teeth for them there popcorn kernels

and
>smiling thinking you gettin in some good needling. But all you
>doing is making it harder for yourself moving forward. You
>don't want me to CARE about the fuckin Knicks and Melo. You
>really don't.

Gimme a hug, bro. I'm serious.

I'd invite you over for Thanksgiving dinner tomorrow if I could.

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56. "enjoy your Holiday, bro. "
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28. "A suggestion that Ba is right and none of it is Kyrie's fault"
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http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10042361/cleveland-cavaliers-hurting-chances-lebron-james-return

In early December 2010, LeBron James returned to Cleveland for the first time since signing with the Miami Heat as a free agent the previous summer. James' new team handed his old one a 118-90 shellacking, part of the early stages of a stretch that saw the Cavaliers lose 36 of their next 37 games. Consider that return the Ghost of LeBron Past.

Tonight's meeting, the first between Cleveland and Miami this season, was supposed to be the Ghost of LeBron Future -- a chance for the Cavaliers to demonstrate to James how far they'd come since then, and potentially even the start of a pitch to bring James back to Cleveland as a free agent next summer. Instead, with the Cavaliers mired in a disappointing 4-10 start to the season that has featured more players-only meetings (1) than wins by double figures (0), it serves as a painful reminder that their rebuilding plan has gone off track. The culprit? The front office's failure to turn a bevy of high draft picks into production on the court.

Over the last three drafts, Cleveland has made a league-high six first-round picks -- two per year, including four selections in the lottery. Twice, the Cavaliers have picked fourth, and in both 2011 and 2013 they landed the No. 1 overall pick. Yet only one of these picks, point guard Kyrie Irving, ranks among Cleveland's top five players in terms of wins above replacement (WARP) this season. While Irving is off to a slow start this season, he reached the All-Star Game before his 21st birthday and is ahead of schedule in terms of his development, even for a top pick. But the Cavaliers' other first-rounders have yet to produce the kind of supporting cast that could take Cleveland back to the postseason and convince James, or another top free agent, that the Cavaliers are a superstar away from championship contention.

Based on nearly a decade's worth of drafts, we can establish a baseline for expected performance from various picks in each season of their career. For example, a typical No. 1 pick would produce 7.3 WARP during his third year, or 1.2 over the 14 games Cleveland has played thus far. Irving, with 1.4, has actually outperformed this mark. The Cavaliers' other first-round picks have not:

Player Pick Expected WARP Actual WARP
Kyrie Irving 1 1.2 1.4
Tristan Thompson 4 0.8 0.1
Dion Waiters 4 0.5 0.0
Tyler Zeller 17 0.2 -0.1
Anthony Bennett 1 0.5 -0.4
Sergey Karasev 19 0.1 -0.1
Total 3.4 0.9
Besides Irving 2.2 -0.5
We'd expect the five other first-round picks besides Irving to have produced about 2.2 WARP so far this season. Instead, four of the five have rated near replacement level with Anthony Bennett's sub-replacement production thus far during his rookie season dragging the group down. The deficit of nearly three wins essentially explains the difference between Cleveland's actual start and a .500 record. That such a large group of players is struggling suggests a systematic issue. Let's take a closer look at the other three lottery picks.

Tristan Thompson (No. 4, 2011)


Thompson
The Cavaliers may have reached for Thompson with the second of their two top-four picks in 2011. Insider's Chad Ford rated him seventh on his big board, behind three players who were still available -- Jonas Valanciunas, Brandon Knight and Kawhi Leonard.

Thompson has proven a serviceable power forward, and played well during the second half of last season, when his 4.1 WARP put him ahead of the expectation for a second-year No. 4 pick (3.2). While converting from shooting with his left hand to his right hand has helped Thompson at the free throw line, where he's shooting 75.4 percent, he's having a tough time finishing around the rim and is making just 43.2 percent of his 2-point attempts. At best, Thompson has yet to demonstrate the upside that would justify drafting him ahead of Valanciunas.

Dion Waiters (No. 4, 2012)


Waiters
Another year, another surprise from Cleveland on draft night. Waiters too was rated seventh on Ford's Big Board, behind Damian Lillard, Andre Drummond and Thomas Robinson. Though a point guard would have made little sense for a team that already had Irving, and the Cavaliers don't look likely to regret passing on Robinson, they again opted against drafting a high-upside center. Already a starter in his second season, Drummond has star potential.

By contrast, Waiters' sophomore campaign has been troubling. On the court, he's shown little growth in his shot selection or consistency. Waiters too has been unable to finish around the basket, which won't likely continue. But he won't be an efficient scorer until he turns more of his long 2-point attempts (which represent 38.3 percent of his shots, per NBA.com/Stats) into 3-pointers (24.2 percent of his shots). As an undersized volume scorer, he's probably best suited in a reserve role, not starting next to Irving.

Anthony Bennett (No. 1, 2013)


Bennett
Then there's Bennett, whose terrible shooting start (he missed his first 16 shot attempts) drew boos from Cleveland fans last week and has produced a 2.3 PER to date. Continuing the theme, the Cavaliers went for Ford's fourth-rated player with the No. 1 pick. In part, they were handcuffed by this year's draft class. Aside from No. 11 pick Michael Carter-Williams, another point guard, none of this year's rookies has separated from the pack. In fact, No. 12 overall selection Steven Adams is the only other lottery pick who currently rates better than replacement level.

In time, Bennett will surely play better. He was an accurate shooter during his lone season at UNLV, suggesting the shooting slump is more a product of rust after shoulder surgery and shot selection (27 of his 42 shot attempts have come outside the paint, including 2-of-15 3-point shooting) than lack of skill. Bennett needs to work to improve his conditioning and learn how he can get his shots at the NBA level, but it's far too early to write him off.

Of course, Bennett also plays the same position as Thompson -- the first month of his career has put to rest any notions he could play on the wing -- and wasn't seen as the top pick of the draft outside the Cleveland draft room. So his upside is probably more as a complementary piece than a second star.

Starting with Bennett, all three top picks are bound to play better the rest of the season. Unless things change drastically, however, it may be too late even in the dismal Eastern Conference to produce the kind of exciting playoff run the Cavaliers would have needed to have a chance to parlay their 2014 cap space into one of the top players available. Since the current crop of talent seems unlikely to yield a second star to go with Irving, signing one in free agency was the best hope Cleveland had of jumping into contention. As a result, the Cavaliers' draft reaches could haunt them for years to come.

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30. "No! http://tinyurl.com/lgse7ff"
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http://tinyurl.com/lgse7ff

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37. "You mean Eddy "the best young center in the league" Curry?"
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>right now he is dealing with the kinda toxic situation I
>haven't seen since Jamal Crawford, Jalen Rose, Tyson Chandler
>and Eddy Curry made life miserable for Jason Williams his
>rookie year in Chicago...because they were jealous of him. He
>could do things on the court that they simply weren't capable
>of and they didn't like him.


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44. "Cavs might have to move a pick if they want to move him"
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Broussard is tweeting his shit

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48. "I would take him for turner if we got a first"
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Plus he will help us tank!

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57. "lmfao. of course you would and you ain't gettin a first nigga. "
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waiter is t

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50. "Buddy ball lmao"
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10046614/cleveland-cavaliers-shopping-dion-waiters

Cavs shopping Dion Waiters


Updated: November 27, 2013, 5:21 PM ET
By Chris Broussard | ESPN The Magazine

The Cleveland Cavaliers are actively shopping second-year shooting guard Dion Waiters, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.

Three teams the Cavaliers are known to have spoken with are the New York Knicks, Chicago Bulls and Philadelphia 76ers, the sources said. The Cavs' targets are Iman Shumpert in New York, Evan Turner in Philadelphia and Luol Deng in Chicago, sources said.

It is believed Cleveland has reached out to other clubs as well.

Waiters, whom the Cavaliers drafted with the No. 4 pick in 2012, has a contentious relationship with several teammates, including star point guard Kyrie Irving, and sources say he is open to being traded. In fact, although Waiters has not demanded a trade, he brought up the subject in a three-hour meeting last week with coach Mike Brown and general manager Chris Grant, according to sources.

The Cavaliers are looking to shake things up after a 4-10 start. Part of their problem has been the dysfunction in their locker room. Waiters, a 6-foot-4 guard, got into an altercation with forward Tristan Thompson during a players-only meeting after a 29-point loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves on Nov. 13, sources said.

Sources described the following account:

Irving called the meeting after the game, and every player spoke. When Waiters was given the floor, he criticized Thompson and Irving, accusing them of playing "buddy ball'' and often refusing to pass to him. Thompson took umbrage with Waiters' words and went back at him verbally. The two confronted each other, but teammates intervened before it could escalate into a fight.

However, Waiters and Irving are not close. Waiters believes the Cavaliers have a double standard when it comes to Irving, sources said. Waiters feels that while Irving is allowed to get away with loafing defensively, making turnovers and taking bad shots, he is taken out of games for such things. Waiters has shared his views with Brown and Grant.

Waiters is slumping after a promising rookie season -- both his scoring and shooting percentage are down.

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54. "This shit ain't funny, man. I told y'all he was a jealous ass BAMMA"
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If you watch Cavs games on the regular, you can actually see this muhfucka ignoring Kyrie when he wide open waving for the ball. Ky gets NO kickouts. That's part of why his shooting is down...that and brown's stupid ass high post bullshit.

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58. "I don't know about you but him being jealous is funny as hell to me"
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I would be down for the Lu trade but that 2014 first would need to be included.

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59. "cleveland not trading the fuckin pick, man. you sound crazy"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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63. "Congratulations"
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Your reward for hating on AI so hard is having to deal with this nightmare Son of AI sequel. Karma: still undefeated

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68. "RE: This shit ain't funny, man. I told y'all he was a jealous ass BAMMA"
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As much as I wanna say Kyrie's low assist totals led some weight to his argument, His FG% is not helping him out much lol.

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60. "Lol This shit is funny. Cavs need a leader who shares & leads by example"
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61. "i hope blatche and nick young come back to DC, nigga"
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FOH!!! lmao

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62. "Woody's head would explode if Jr & Dion start running shyt in NY "
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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65. "Waiters would be the 2nd best Knick by a wide margin"
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very wide margin

dude can actually play

  

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69. "His selfishness would make Melo seem like a Magic disciple "
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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94. "Carmelo been playing with JR Smith most of his career"
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Waiters looks like Magic Johnson next to JR Smith.

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74. "Dion is right"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrbOcbMlBgY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Kyrie defense is atrocious.

I believe he is playing buddy ball and he needs to improve on D.

Let waiters go to Philly with MCW...the story will change on him when he has a distributor at the 1.


Maybe the Cavs need a Turner to be able point foward and help them win some games.



If we gave them Luol for Waiters and Sideshow, or Waiters and a 2014 pick we would come up huge.


Isiaih Thomas should be mentioned more on this board BTW. I am holding all of his stock and watching it rise... Bitcoin is getting his money off the bench even...

  

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75. "take your scanvenger imploded agenda refugee ass elsewhere"
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at least RBO has wall, but i ain't gonna stand for all you butthurt rose niggas dumpin on kyrie all year long.

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85. "dion is a damn hater."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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87. "don't like waiters but honestly i can see where he is coming from"
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the cavs are cow toeing to a star that hasn't really done shit
is waiters supposed to fall in line, avg 12-14 points or whatever while kyrie has top 5 USG% and the team goes to the lottery every year
that and waiters will get NO credit for anything, even when he outplays kyrie. cause the narrative is already set
fuck it i'd want to bounce too
right now the hierarchy and plan in cleveland is set and from where i'm sitting the shit ain't working and i don't know if it will ever work
under those circumstances i can't hate on a player thinking he's better than he may be and wanting to get into another situation where he can show some growth or at least have the fucking chance to be something more than an agenda scapegoat
and for what it's worth waiters does show flashes when kyrie is injured or out the game and he gets to dominate the ball
it's just a badly built team and i can't really hate on a dude seeing where he stands from the grand scheme of things and wanting to get the fuck out

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92. "fuck him. he getting shipped out. "
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kyrie performed his first two years and EARNED whatever awards he got.

dion a jealous fake philly hardrock bamma. fuck that dude. i can't wait until he gone.

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64. "Kyrie freezing him out, just like Isiah did MJ?"
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Why buddy ball?

  

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66. "he gettin traded. it don't even matter"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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67. "Can't wait"
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In all seriousness, Dion needs the right situation. He's talented, but he needs the right coach/team to get the most out of him.

Another case of Boeheim getting the most out of a player who can be difficult.

  

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72. "He need to come to D.C. where the pg ain't ALL IN THE VIDEOS..."
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taking all of the shots....and letting niggaz eat.

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70. "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
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i called this shit last yr and laugh at the kyrie excuse game, everybody and there grandma know dion is right kyrie is a shooting guard he ain't no pg and he was hella tight last yr when he got hurt the cavs were better on offense and waiters looked like young d wade. Kyrie was jealous of that shit. Dion and Kyrie play the same position which of course breeds competition, niggas need to get a real pg cuz kyrie ain't a pg in even the derrick rose russy style the muthafuck struggles to get assist because he is too busy learning what new harlem globetrotter shit rather than working on how to actually throw and entry to pass to bynum how many turnovers did he have in the third quarter on basically trying to throw an entry pass it was disgusting.

Kyrie in his dreams can never make a pass like this between two defender, wall is out here looking 2002 chad pennington
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNk7w4Kraz4

Kyrie doesn't even play d i mean when has he punched a nigga shit so viciously mind you the block is on iman shumpert and everybody punches that non finishing nigga shit but i mean wall is moving the movement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md3Gw2yiV38


don't think waiters aint seeing how everybody who plays with wall gets paid

andre blatche wall got him bread
tall light skin seven ft nigga wall got him bread
webster wall got him bread
beal wall got him looking like a more human looking reggie miller

in closing tell your pg to work on being a pg and stop the harlem globetrotter shit work on entry passes work on not trying to dribble out the corner you know shit all pg's know.can you blame waiters for wanting to slap kyrie his voice is so soft you just wanna make him your bitch and probably think all that harlem globetrotter shit he does with the ball he probably can do with his tongue.

What I'd like to have right now is for all you fat, out of shape, small dick niggas to keep the noise down while I take my robe off and show all the ladies what a real man is supposed to look like (C) Ravishing Rick Rude

  

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71. "http://oi41.tinypic.com/a9l2lj.jpg"
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http://oi41.tinypic.com/a9l2lj.jpg

men are so simple, and so subject to present necessities, that he who seeks to deceive will always find someone who will allow himself to be deceived. (c)Niccol Machiavelli

  

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73. "http://tinyurl.com/mg2e5m3"
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http://tinyurl.com/mg2e5m3

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79. "Guess I'll be the one to point out Dion shot 7-14 while Ky went 6-19 "
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Mike Brown fault!

  

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81. "be the one to do it every game"
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be the one to point out kyrie has lived up to his selection and dion is a reminder of several niggas the cavs COULDA had.

because, really, that's all that fuckin matters.

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82. "RE: be the one to do it every game"
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nigga you are one ugly muddafucka you love moving the goalpost if wall hasn't lived up to his selection how the fuck has kyrie lived up to his the nigga is a harlem globetrotting ass shooting guard positioned as a pg he has not court vision and cant make simple entry passes to the post and he has a love affair with tristan

What I'd like to have right now is for all you fat, out of shape, small dick niggas to keep the noise down while I take my robe off and show all the ladies what a real man is supposed to look like (C) Ravishing Rick Rude

  

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83. "for the record, I called the plea cop...i just didn't think Waiters woul..."
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The scapegoat...

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2184123&mesg_id=2184123&listing_type=search#2184252



No excuses...








  

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84. "Your whole franchise done, so..."
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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88. "They might finish with a better record even without Rose"
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That would be embarrassing for Kyrie

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89. "yeah, who would it be embarrassing for if..."
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the cavs finished with a better record than the knicks?































oh

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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90. "Carmelo is barely top 15, and a bum though...nobody likes him. "
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Kyrie is everyone's darling and is a "rising star" who
has never been to the playoffs

Carmelo has never missed the playoffs

  

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91. "nah..."
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unflippable.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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93. "Yah...the facts are the facts. ESPN said Carmelo was barely top 15."
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Carmelo doesn't disappoint anyone by not making the
playoffs.

He's got lucky with that scoring title, remember?


: - )


Kyrie, on the other hand--he's an elite player, and elite
players get their teams to the playoffs.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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95. ""fakechise" player, right?"
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96. "nah..."
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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97. "Good grief...talk about diversions...you mad at Carmelo cuz Kyrie bad? "
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The consensus is that Kyrie is a better player

So why isn't Kyrie's team good?

Oh, Waiters that right.

But why isn't Carmelo's team good?

Oh, its all Carmelo. That's right. Duh.


I'm about to walk with stallion to get a good cup of
coffee. When I get back I want some answers.

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99. "nah..."
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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101. "Yeah, you mad. "
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104. "nah..."
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i'm just not gonna let you OE 3 wins into something other than 3 wins.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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113. "This post about Waiters and Kyrie; you in here talking about Carmelo. "
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That's an OE win if there ever was one


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118. "also a pimpinchicaGO win "
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Still waiting on my longterm L with Kyrie...


Everything I have predicted has come to fruition


All people want to do now is deflect blame or talk about Jabari



  

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98. "you mad because they right"
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----
bshelly

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100. "Nah, a Knicks tank is a win-win for Carmelo"
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Either Carmelo gets traded to a team where the
two guys making more money than him actually play
for the team

Knicks get someone good in return, or a pick

Or the Knicks tank and get a good player in the draft

Either way, Knicks fans win, and Carmelo ends up in a
better situation

And Iverson still got cut from his Turkish team


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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102. "knicks don't have their fucking pick, you knowledgeable knick fan"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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106. "lmao"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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107. "Ooop"
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when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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108. "just keep OE talking and he'll eventually lose the argument"
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----
bshelly

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111. "They can get one in a Melo trade though, sooooooo"
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Again -- everybody wins

: - )

  

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114. "maybe. as long as you know they don't actually have one coming NOW"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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105. "^^^^ this losing streak is the best thing for everyone"
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The Knicks winning 45-50 and not being a real threat, but being dumb enough to think they are leading to resigning Melo for the max and continuing to put nothing around him....nah.

Melo needs to get the hell out of there and go somewhere where's he's got some players around him, or to a team with the ability to put players around him.

NY needs to shut it down and retool. Melo got them back to the playoffs and gave them their best season in 15 years, but they aren't going beyond that. Amare's contract and lack of production will see to that.

  

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109. "pleas ... Pleas ... PLEAS! (c) James Brown"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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110. "for who? Melo or the Knicks?"
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I'm not even a Knicks fan, so I'd have no reason to cop pleas for them. I just root for all Cuse players.

And I don't need to cop pleas for Melo, he's doing his job. 27 and 10.

I want to see him on a better team.

  

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112. "Exactamundo. 'Melo about to come out of this looking great"
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a) He carried a horrible team to a 2 seed and division
title last year, WITHOUT THE REAL FRANCHISE PLAYER, which is
MORE than he was asked to do

b) This year he's not carrying the bums, and is building
a case to be traded to a good team

His resume is solid--he carried a team to above their
talent, won a scoring title in the best swingman scorer
era in decades

He can now go to an actual good TEAM

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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115. "i've never seen building a case to be traded as a positive before"
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excellent work here. will read again.lol

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Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilarious.

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126. "Carmelo signed to play with the Amare of 2010"
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He didn't get what he signed up for

Shit breaths are in here saying that "he should have
known that Amare would break down," which is silly
because Chris Paul was trying to play with him too

Nobody *knew* that Amare would be a shadow of himself
by year 2

It was a perfectly reasonable move by Carmelo, that
happened not to work, and it wasn't his fault

That being the case, making himself marketable for a
trade would be a good idea

  

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127. "insurance companies pretty much did n/m"
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goddam the plea cops. lolololololol.

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It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilarious.

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133. "Amare Stoudemire is the franchise player on the Knicks. "
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According to his salary.

And he does not play basketball anymore. Some guy
wears his number who can barely run and jump.

  

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121. "If they right then Kyrie takes Cleveland to the playoffs "
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in fact, how about Kyrie wins more than 25 games for starters.


<----- Long Live The King

  

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116. "what sucks...i thought Kyrie would get at least 5 wins"
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By December


Unless they beat my sorry ass franchise without Rose, then that won't even happen.



LolCavsLol




  

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117. "your whole franchise done.....soooooooooooo...."
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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119. "your franchise is nonexistant"
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Your franchise player is nothing more than Steve Francis 2.0

At least Francis and Cuttino could get along and share balls...


Kyrie running all the talent away.

  

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120. "ooooooh burn"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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122. "AYOOOOO!!!! That Francis and Cuttino line, fam"
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it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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123. "I've watched just abt every Cavs game thus far this season and I"
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haven't seen Kyrie freezing Waiters out as he claims

BUT (and there's a big one)

Kyrie DOES try and do too much which is why I think his shooting and 3-pt pct. are abysmal (%406, %312.) and maybe to Waiters its perceived as Kyrie not trying to give him the rock

What I'm noticing abt Kyrie is that as a point guard, a scoring point guard at that, he doesn't know how to put his teammates in a position to make the game easier for them, when the team gets behind he's tries and shoulder too much of the offensive load and oftentimes he ends up creating a turnover or taking an ill-advised shot...

He's supremely talented but he never learned to play *winning basketball* because of his brief time at Duke.

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124. "okay...have you noticed he's the only one who moves without the ball"
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who is he supposed to be putting in position to score? has it occured to ANYONE that these niggas just ain't scorers?

andy never dropped double figures in his life until kyrie rookie year. now i know lebron can set folks up, but he couldn't set that bamma up to the tune of double figs.

only way dion gettin 20ppg is with 20FGa per game. period.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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125. "There may be some truth to that but that could be because they're"
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standing around waiting for him to make something happen

As a point guard, he probably has to do more directing on the court and telling those players where they should be on the floor. Lets not forget that several of the Cavs core group of players are young and haven't been on winning teams.

I would imagine if Chris Paul or a Rajon Rondo was the Cavs point guard the Cavs offense wouldn't be as stagnant because of their pass-first-shoot second approach to the game which would make the game a lot easier for those guys to be more involved offensively, Kyrie, on the other hand, never learned that aspect of the point guard position which is why he usually ends up trying to do it all himself when the team gets behind -- this is where I can see his game could've benefited from playing a full season at Duke. He needs another scorer to take some of the offensive load off of him (maybe a Danny Granger?)

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128. "watch the cavs tonight and watch him have to TELL niggas to swing it"
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they don't even think to reverse the ball, dogg. you know what, it has occured to me that he should STOP directing and let niggas just play. maybe they are inclined to cut to an open spot, but they running this garbage offense.

other than flat out bad vibes in the lockerroom, i can't tell you all that's wrong.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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129. "Guess I'll be the one; Dion 8-10 for 20Pts Kyrie 7-21 for 19Pts on the B..."
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Kyrie had 6ast though and most importantly Cavs win so I don't give a fuck


But Dion is mad underrated

  

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130. "Holla when Dion hittin GWs and dropping 40pts"
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Because all this sample sizing that's going on with Cavs fans and Waiters and some bullshit. If the muhfucka played like this last year and to start this season, NONE OF THIS SHIT WOULDA HAPPENED.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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131. "nigga this is YOUR post lol"
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Not even 15 games in you had Dion as the worst thing to happen since Austin Rivers...


Dion snapped when Kyrie got hurt.

Dion snapped tonight when Kyrie sat his ass down.

Dion good.




You are in defense mode for your Kyrie agenda. That's what this boils down to.


I predicted only 5 wins for Kyrie by December...
I predicted you making a scapegoat...
Cavs suck and Kyrie is overrated and we all see it.
I predicted Philly would be better than them and MCW would blow that...but but he doesn't have a good team excuse out of the water.






Trade Kyrie while you can get the most for him. Ship Rie to Philly for MCW and Turner and let Iverson -2.0 Return to the Sixers and the Cavs get a real PG and them Syacuse boys can put in work.


Bet you Bynums number improve with MCW.


I bet if Cleveland called Philly for that trade, they would get straight dialtone...




  

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132. "Again: Dion about 4X better than any Carmelo teammate"
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Watch what happens when you ask Ba would he take
Dion for Shump

  

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134. "I hope you get that trade"
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Because, yeah, seeing you see dion on Melos team would be comedy.

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141. "JR Smith makes Dion Waiters look like John Stockton"
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And Carmelo been dealing with JR Smith for years,
not exploding on him, and maximizing his talent (note the
one year JR didn't play with Melo - in LA with the
Clippers - he was a 10th man)


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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143. "But Melo is the one who wanted JR on the squad lol -- and for the"
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record, JR is BETTER than Waiters

JR is capable of (at times) being the best player on the court and we saw him last season win several gms when Melo was out. So stop exaggerating Melo's lack of help because it's not just his teammates, its him, too. Amare pretty much eluded to the knicks' problems stemming from lack of ball of movement...and that falls on Melo just as much, if not more, as it does on JR/Bargnani/Felton etc.

>And Carmelo been dealing with JR Smith for years,
>not exploding on him, and maximizing his talent (note the
>one year JR didn't play with Melo - in LA with the
>Clippers - he was a 10th man)
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>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
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>(C)Keith Murray, "

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Basaglia
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135. "Your whole franchise is a wrap, Scavenger"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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136. "we are still a playoff team"
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we have the Bobcats pick coming
we have Mirotic coming
we about to lose some Duke deadweight via trade and amnesty in the next 2 seasons...


Even if we wanted to re-up and get Okafor 2015 we are a better situation than the Cavs.



We good.


Jimmy got game
Snell got game
Taj got game
Noah got game and Value


Even without Rose, we still better than the Cavs in life.


Of course the Cavs aren't your franchise...Kyrie is your franchise...but Kyrie isn't franchise.



Better yet, how about the Cavs trading Waiters to Detroit for Caldwell Pope and Singler...

Trade Rie to Detroit for Jennings and Monroe...put the fake baby Zeke (Isiah Thomas is the real Lil Zeke) in Detroit...where he can play buddy ball with Drummond.


Someone getting traded cause Cleveland sucks.



Bulls franchise last season without Rose playing a single game = 45 wins

Kyrie playing franchise level basketball for 2 damn seasons = 45 wins and he is on pace for another 20 win monster year.



FOH


We good.

  

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Basaglia
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137. "nigga, the pick protected 1-10...just shut up and be sorry"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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138. "Ha. Both Snell/Gibson were found late 1st."
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You know the Bulls can find some talent (in THIS draft) in picks #11-20.

We're good.

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140. "WTF? Dogg, Charlotte will not be drafting outside Top 10"
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Bet that.

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139. "#factsonly"
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2014 the pic is protected 1-10...true
2015 the pic is protected 1-8...true


With the 11th pick, the Philadelphia 76ers select...a real pointguard.
.their future...a game changer...someone who can win with a bad team around him...



I'll take the chances on a 11 pick next draft or 9 in 2015



I am also confident that as long as Cleveland had Steve Iverson at point, they will fuck up remaining drafts trying to fit pieces around a guard with no chemistry...which means real talent will slip from their grasp and fall towards us.




Hell we could tank this season and still be eligible for Jabari or Randle...



No way is the Bulls in a worse position than the Cavs.

  

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142. "*looks at Drummonds stat line*"
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And you niggas cysed cause Dion big torso having ass threw up a couple 20 point games?

I don't get some niggas. He's a disaster of a pick.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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144. "Guess I'll be the one: Dion scored 30 off the bench, Kyrie scored zero p..."
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against the Atlanta Hawks



fucking tired of my nigga Dion being the scapegoat. Irving is playing like trash right now and you can't blame it on Mike Brown, Chris Grant or any of Kyrie's teammates who were able to put the ball in the fucking basket at some point against the damn Hawks...




  

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145. "http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p18/LH2man/Funnees/gifsFav/clint-nod...."
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http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p18/LH2man/Funnees/gifsFav/clint-nod.gif

  

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146. "It's a damn shame. Dion needs some help. "
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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147. "my nigga, PLEASE holla at me when dion waiters is a FUCKING ALL STAR"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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148. "Should be interesting"
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To see who grabs Waiters and takes advantage of the upcoming Cavs panic trade.

  

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149. "maybe it'll be the Mavs...you been there, right?"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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"Carlisle seems to have Monta tuned up nicely"


  

          

Maybe he could do the same with Dion. But I imagine one of the tanking teams would probably want to take a flyer on him.

  

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150. "Why would Waiters be traded? Cavs need a guard who shares the rock"
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151. "Kyrie has more popularity. If they got rid of Kyrie...."
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they'd get more in return and will eventually win more. But until then it could be pure hell for Dion, knowing they chose him over Kyrie.

But they'd probably win immediately depending on what they'd get back.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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152. "I'd do Kyrie for Anthony Davis or any of Randle/Wiggins/Parker "
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Dion would be sitting pretty as the lead guard/de facto point guard and would probably eventually be an all-star

  

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154. "dion waiters will never be a fuckin all-star...should have DRUMMOND"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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158. "nah, I'm pretty sure Dion will be an all-star one day "
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Cavs needed a guard with his skill that plays with dat intensity; makes his teammates better and all that stuff

Dion's like the reliable beater you drive to work. Kyrie is the clean ass smug you use to stunt on dumb hoes


in this case, you would be the dumb hoe

  

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171. "keep rolling with that hard-working middle-america bullshit"
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yeah, okay...dion the kinda "tough-nosed" nigga you want to be the face of your team?

cool. that's why your the fucking cleveland cavaliers and that's why you'll be call kyrie all kinda traitorous shit when he's winning more laker titles, because that's HIS identity.

and dion not an all-star. he's puttin on aight numbers for TWO WEEKS on a really bad team. a REALLY bad team.

they shouldn't have drafted him. only reason why niggas like you cyse that fat fuck is because you don't wanna keep hearing about drummond.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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178. "How would Drummond have helped Kyrie not score zero points on the Hawks?..."
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Cavs didn't need Drummond doofy ass, the team needed a guard like Waiters who does what Kyrie does but without all the unnecessary street ball shit



if Kyrie's a frontrunner who needs to be in a big name city to play the game the right way, I can't wait to trade-rape whatever dumb ass team is ready to give away the farm for him like the Knicks and Nets. Nigga can go live his fucking Kobe Bryant fantasy somewhere else




who all is gonna be on this championship laker squad with Irving? Who will be his scapegoats when he scores zero points against the Atlanta hawks?

  

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191. "search deep in your soul, nigga. once he leaves the cavs..."
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he gonna be the same nigga he was...only better. he don't wanna be there.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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165. "You couldn't get Kyrie for Anthony Davis"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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153. "you fake like you a cavs fan who just want a better team"
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you just a fuckin duke-hater

only a duke-hatin bitch would cyse a fat ass 6-2 shooting guard who came into camp his rookie year 30lbs overweight and felt ENTITLED to have co-billing with the fucking nigga who just got ROY and was selected to the all-star game.

we 20 games in and dion FINALLY lookin halfway consistent after instigating a totally unecessary near fight with teammates and now he gets the greenlight to throw up his fuckballs in GARBAGE TIME and have niggas like you thinkin he balling. AND you thinking kyrie some shit now.

this is bizarre, and when he bounces and playing with his fellow all-star buddies in a cool ass city with fine bitches and nice restaurants, you scorned bitches bet not say a word. writing is on the wall...that kid is fuckin leaving. all you dumb bitches done turned on him, when he on TV repping y'all at all-star weekend, maybe sure y'all weak ass city is in recognized, going out his way for the shit and you niggas bailing 20 games into year 3.

bennett should be buying kyrie meals every fuckin day, because somehow the worst #1 pick in history (so far) is not THE story of that team.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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155. "As your boy and supporter, I gotta admit that you're in a panic"
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Two things are definitely true, you know them, and
they have you upset:

1) There is no excuse for Kyrie's performance so far.
None. Nothing.

2) The difference in perception between Kyrie and Dion
is faaaaaaaaaaaar bigger than the difference in goodness.


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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156. "nigga, i made a thread WEEKS AGO admitting i was in a panic..."
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i know a fuckin toxic lockerroom when i see one. the shit is split and niggas are afraid of jack and waiters fake tough guy asses.

i'm the nigga who saw this coming, not y'all. y'all just enjoying the fallout and i'm not.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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159. "JR Smith is a worse teammate, human and player than Jack or Waiters"
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I think this Kyrie thing is honestly a bit of
karma

Just be consistent, that's all


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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162. "this ain't karma...karma is kyrie being 30 the star of shit show"
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so, you can stop all that. if you wanna party...cool. but, NOTHING gonna save you from Melo's debacle.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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157. "all he's gotta do is D up and pass"
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It ain't rocket science. He could maybe be the best PG in the L if his style of play was more conducive to winning. A lot of the skills are there.

  

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160. "I really just wish dude would play the game like a damn point guard "
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he doesn't play the right way and it pisses fans off. that's the story on Kyrie right now

  

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164. "what SPECIFICALLY is he supposed to do? "
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don't say pass the ball, because he DOES that already. gimme details. should he PASS MORE? to who? bynum? what happened when bynum now in the game? should he hit cutters? name one muhfucka he CUTS on this team, OTHER THAN KYRIE and none of the bigs hit him cutting, RARELY, IF EVER.

so, explain.

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168. "P&R? Pass to the open man when he draws 3 defenders? Not over-dribble? "
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dog, it's not complicated. The all-star point guard is supposed to make his teammates better not the other way around

  

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Basaglia
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179. "NBA bigs are SUPPOSED to not bring the fuckin ball down"
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but tristan still doing it.

NBA wings supposed to knock down corner threes...GEE can't.

elite NBA SGs are usually knockdown shooters and dion not.

he was averaging 7 dimes when that meeting happened. nobody was complaining about him PASSING then.

i know what the fuck happened. he had just finished dropping 39 and 41 and taking over and lookin like THAT NIGGA and dion acted like the jealous bitch he is.

can't nobody tell me different. the nigga needs to get the fuck or they need to trade kyrie. either way i'm tired of this. dion think he a fuckin star and ain't shown SHIT close to being one.

he see klay, derozan and beal and he know niggas comparing him to them and he blaming his FATCOMINGS on kyrie.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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161. "and all dion had to do was show up in shape and check his ego..."
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but, he fuckin didn't....and all that jealously built up last year and the nigga done orchestrated a mutiny...and for what? to get a nice second contract. he done admitted he met with his agent because he was worried about touches.

kyrie called a meeting after that loss to NO, where kyrie played hero ball down the stretch. i admit it, kyrie was selfish. but, he's hit the shows PLENTY of times.

dion pitched a bitch after that game. it's been a train wreck since. you can see the body language. dion is emboldened to take his fucked up philly rock bullshit and kyrie has cut down his drives because bynum big ass there and he's reduced to taking contested jumpers.

you right. this shit IS simple. he leaving. GOOD!

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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166. "come to The Show"
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and I may be happy on both ends.

Waiters hurt his knee a bit in summer league before his rookie year, and was MAYBE 10 pounds overweight before the season. Maybe. 30? C'mon, ridiculous.

I think you were giving Bennett a pass for being hurt and then overweight.

Dion came into this season in great shape, for what it's worth.

  

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169. "FUCK A HURT KNEE...THE NIGGA WAS FAT AS FUCK"
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bennett gettin a pass from EVERYONE because your boy dion has made the cavs a fuckin spectacle. he can't shut the fuck up. everything he says after every fuckin loss is subversive, undermining and petty. he just did it AGAIN tonight. because he's a jealous ass nigga.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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175. "Waiters can be harnessed"
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I won't defend him at all costs, he's had some teammate/coach issue going back to high school. But he can play, and he can be channeled.

You're exaggerating on how "overweight" he was, IMO.

It takes more than 1 to cause the kind of locker room strife Cleveland reportedly has. I have no doubt Waiters has a part in it, and I have no doubt that it's nowhere close to all being on him.

  

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184. "he was an entitled fat fuck at 'cuse...he's the same NOW"
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188. "freshman year - kind've, soph year- not even close"
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He was in great shape and was a good teammate all year. Accepted coming off the bench with no issues, despite being the best player on the team.

  

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190. "He not the best best player on the team"
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And he damn sure wasn't when he was benched.

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193. "http://oi44.tinypic.com/zvshee.jpg"
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>the L if his style of play was more conducive to winning.

http://oi44.tinypic.com/zvshee.jpg

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163. "Like I give a fuck about college ball... lmao "
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Cavs would trade Kyrie before he has any chance to just "leave" like he's anywhere near unrestricted free agency... HA


right now, Irving should be playing to prove he's a max contract player. He'll probably get that max regardless that he's playing like ass right now but you best believe that Cleveland would turn on Irving before he has a chance to burn us like we been burned in the past



as of right now, if we could get a haul for Irving; I'd be seriously tempted to do it


I'd trade the fuck outta ya boy for the rights to draft Jabari Parker

  

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167. "you don't deserve jabari. you don't deserve shit. "
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you gonna turn on him BEFORE he gets a chance, huh? is that what's going on? because he wouldn't commit to staying when hit with all those questions in camp?

dogg, you and other cavs fans are talking yourselves into a hole. this ain't like Wall in D.C. where he ain't show much his first two years. Kyrie hit the ground running and now he in a shooting slump a month into year 3 and y'all talking crazy shit.

shit can't be unsaid. all i'm saying.

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170. "Kyrie is disappointing this season. I though he'd be an MVP candidate "
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I liked how Irving was looking to set up his teammates more in pre-season and at the begging of the season but he was giving too much praise and leeway too early, the Mr. 4th quarter heroics and shit has encouraged him to be a selfish player


He should be a set up man first and a clutch scorer second

  

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172. "RE: you don't deserve jabari. you don't deserve shit. "
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>you gonna turn on him BEFORE he gets a chance, huh? is that
>what's going on? because he wouldn't commit to staying when
>hit with all those questions in camp?
>
>dogg, you and other cavs fans are talking yourselves into a
>hole. this ain't like Wall in D.C. where he ain't show much
>his first two years.


I know that Wall kid has become your punching bag...But is this ^^^ really true?

The kid had a very good rookie season (over 16 pts and over 8 dimes a game, bad shooting percentage and all...)....I mean, you don't get named to the NBA All-Rookie 1st Team and don't "show much"...

What happened to Wall is he got hurt with a serious knee injury...Shit happens...

But the kid is a good young player....

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173. "yes, it's true. he was disappointing. "
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there are plenty of articles. he is just starting to be what he was supposed to be.

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177. "RE: yes, it's true. he was disappointing. "
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>there are plenty of articles. he is just starting to be what
>he was supposed to be.

I think he was disappointing AFTER his rookie season...

But all I remember reading during that rookie season was how much of an exceptional pure PG he was to be so young...People were praising him for his passing skills....He got invited to play at the rookie challenge and was one of the leaders in assists in the Eastern Conference....

The only reason I followed the kid was because I thought he would be an actual threat to Rose in the East...

Again, you want to talk about the season after that injury and how lackluster Wall was, I agree wholeheartedly....

But that kid put up some damn good PG numbers in his rookie season...He came in second to Blake Griffith for Rookie of the Year...

U doing a little too much with this, homie....

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180. "we just disagree. "
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183. "RE: we just disagree. "
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Actually no...lol...You said the kid was a disappointment his first two or three seaons....

And I'm saying he was good his rookie season and got the numbers and pub to prove it...The numbers can't be disputed...Nor can the facts...(coming after Blake in ROY voting...)

However, I do agree with you on the fact that Wall regressed after his rookie season....He looked like a knucklehead...Because he was on a team of fools....But that's another story, right?

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185. "we disagree"
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the fact that you stuck on this tho doesn't bode well for me paying you any mind for the rest of the season. this shit petty and dumb. i know y'all niggas ain't got shit to do but wait, but y'all been real pressed lately.

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174. "Lol....he's so dedicated to that false narrative, he can't go back now"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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176. "dogg, it wasn't a shot..."
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shit, i can provide link to those articles from THIS YEAR. i know YOU remember. wall was a disappointment and people were wondering loudly if he'd be what he's supposed to be. that ain't got shit to do with agenda. that's just what actually happened.

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181. "RE: dogg, it wasn't a shot..."
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>shit, i can provide link to those articles from THIS YEAR. i
>know YOU remember. wall was a disappointment and people were
>wondering loudly if he'd be what he's supposed to be. that
>ain't got shit to do with agenda. that's just what actually
>happened.


Indeed...People were throwing that D word around...But not after that rookie season....

The criticism of Wall started happening a year or so later when the kid was taking L's with that team full of knuckleheads....JeVale...Nick Young....Yeah...those guys...lol

There's a reason they cleaned house and got rid of nearly everybody except Wall...

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182. "yeah, and RBO was beggin for them niggas to get tossed..."
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and here i am beggin for dion to get the fuck on. just like you begged for booz to get the fuck.

this ain't knew. it's just my turn.

and he was labeled a DISAPPOINTMENT after his rookie year. your opinion here is moot, murph. there are ARTICLES, VIDEOS and AUDIO where numerous "experts" were saying he was a "DISAPPOINTMENT"

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186. "RE: yeah, and RBO was beggin for them niggas to get tossed..."
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>and here i am beggin for dion to get the fuck on. just like
>you begged for booz to get the fuck.


Yeah...two different things here...apples and bricks...

>this ain't knew. it's just my turn.

cool...

>and he was labeled a DISAPPOINTMENT after his rookie year.
>your opinion here is moot, murph. there are ARTICLES, VIDEOS
>and AUDIO where numerous "experts" were saying he was a
>"DISAPPOINTMENT"

Please, by all means...show me this plethora of articles claiming that this kid was a disappointment his rookie season....I would love to read/listen to these joints....

Again...I'M WITH YOU on the Wall criticism later on....But I just don't see how he could be a disappointment YEAR ONE when he would have easily won Rookie of the Year if it wasn't for Blake getting hurt his rookie season a year earlier....

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187. "Google it"
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I know this OKS and all and we SUPPOSED to stray as far away from the fuckin thread topic as possible, but..: I don't do that.

You have a fuckin google machine. I ASSURE you. They are out there. Happy hunting, my nigga.

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189. "RE: Google it"
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>I know this OKS and all and we SUPPOSED to stray as far away
>from the fuckin thread topic as possible, but..: I don't do
>that.
>
>You have a fuckin google machine. I ASSURE you. They are out
>there. Happy hunting, my nigga.

My nigga...u doing too much...lol

I did Google....And you know what I found? Shit like this:

Washington Post, 2011...

"Wall joined Oscar Robertson, Magic Johnson, Mark Jackson, Allen Iverson, Tim Hardaway and Chris Paul as the only rookies in NBA history to have atleast 1100 points, 550 assists and 300 rebounds as rookies. He is the only player to reach those totals in less than 70 games.

He had a season that compared favorably with the past four point guards to win rookie of the year, but unfortunately, it didnt come close to Griffin, who is the first rookie since Elton Brand in 1999 to average at least 20 points and 10 rebounds in his first season."

Listen...I know u and Billy got that college blood feud going...He trounces on Kyrie and you Moonwalk over Wall...Shit is entertaining (no snark...u guys are two of the best posters on this part of the site....)

But some things just can't be written down as gospel...Some things are a bit more layered...

It's one thing to say: Wall has been a disappointment following his rookie season...He has failed to live up to his first season....

But it's quite another to say: Wall has ALWAYS been a disappointment....

That's all I'm saying...No beef...No agendas (I got no horse in this race...)...Nothing...

Just saying....But party on, my dude...And good luck with Kyrie....He will be out sooner or later...





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192. "."
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nevermind. let y'all do your dumb thing about 30 points in a blowout L.

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194. "Dion's outshooting Kyrie by 40 points in FG% & TS% and 90 points in 3pt%"
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mad?


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200. "no. i don't care about kyrie."
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203. "this entire post is actually about kyrie."
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so, yeah.


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216. "lmao"
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195. "Really more about Kyrie's 0 points in a blowout L, isn't it? "
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>nevermind. let y'all do your dumb thing about 30 points in a
>blowout L.

  

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199. "proving dion cant carry the team."
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201. "yeah, if he was any good he would've had 60"
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211. "Greg Monroe Carries Teams?"
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Hibbert?

FOH with that Georgetown BS

  

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212. "Either of them claiming to?"
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Nope. Hoyas make good teammates.

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213. "Dion claiming to?"
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>Nope. Hoyas make good teammates.

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214. "dion called himself a fuckin star...fuck him"
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218. "you said bennett was gonna be a star"
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see post #207


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224. "did bennett?"
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don't derail. don't let that be your whole existence on the board.

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237. "only thing derailing is Kyrie's shooting %"
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238. "we ALL know the numbers will be there, so why party so hard? "
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that's why i don't understand y'all. play the long game.

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239. "getting it in while the getting's good"
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and the getting is really good right now, so party on!


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240. "is it? they've won 4 of 5 and he back to 21/6"
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like i said, when i start upping all this stuff, i'm gonna gladly accept being cast as the pressed dude.

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241. " Cavs are still trash and he's still shooting 40%, so yeah it is"
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>like i said, when i start upping all this stuff, i'm gonna
>gladly accept being cast as the pressed dude.

and when you do I won't care. in the meantime I'm gonna party.


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242. "well, i wasn't think of you specifically "
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i put you in the same box as shells...instigators. and that's fine.

but some dudes will be mad when i start cysing kyrie. i even said wasn't gonna do it this year, but...things change.

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243. "nah, this is payback for your knicks/melo harrassment"
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I actually like kyrie, but the opportunity presented itself so I gotta get some payback where I can.


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244. "damn, never knew you like the knicks all this time..."
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plus i never harrassed them...all i said was PG better than him last summer and niggas lost they damn minds.

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196. "sad how a bunch of yall let agendas ruin your own team"
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youre shitting on the player who is the best player on your franchise BY FAR== despite all his flaws--whose still what 21? For a mediocre undersized shooting guard who cant really shoot.

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197. "There are a bunch of actual Cavs fans on here?"
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>youre shitting on the player who is the best player on your
>franchise BY FAR== despite all his flaws--whose still what 21?
>For a mediocre undersized shooting guard who cant really
>shoot.

that's not what's happening here.


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198. "there are a couple in this post"
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204. "kevlar and who else?"
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there might be another one but I ain't reading through 200 posts to find who it is.

at any rate it's not "a bunch"


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Basaglia
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205. "Shouldn't be any... That's the point"
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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207. "you brought this on yourself dude"
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Basaglia
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223. "it's worth it for the comeback, when everybody want quiet"
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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Basaglia
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202. "Exactly"
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Because if my agendas...

Klay can't just be one of the best SGs in the L... He can't just be that

And Dion is BETTER than Kyrie

And it's not even worth me partying when both are proven my way.

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kevlar skully
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206. "Yep I'm just shitting on Kyrie for no reason "
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Y'all are way too goofy about this agenda stuff. My agenda is for the Cavs to win games no matter who puts up points

  

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208. "Who else CAPABLE of CONSISTENTLY puttin up 20ppg?"
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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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kevlar skully
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209. "Waiters averaged 20 pts a game last week. He's in his 2nd year"
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You're a jinx on my team dude. I could respect you if you didn't act like Kyrie is perfect but I really can't take your flamboyant stannery

  

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210. "Let him do it a YEAR, bitch"
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231. "He has to have the ball in order to score"
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Can't do that when the "point guard" is playing
And1 ball

  

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232. "oh, for real? gotta have TALENT to WARRANT getting those shots"
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he ain't got that, unless he shoot 18-20 times. nah, he not gettin those.

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215. "Kyrie has accomplished nothing and supporters are BLAMING Waiters"
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THAT is pathetic

Kyrie hasn't led a team to anything CLOSE to the playoffs

Look how OKS treats Carmelo Anthony...whose TEAMS HAVE
NEVER EVER EVER MISSED THE PLAYOFFS...and he's been the
ALPHA DOG on EVERY SINGLE team since his rookie year

  

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219. "nah....cysing waiters to shit on kyrie is pathetic"
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what melo led his team to today was pathetic. melo's team's being WORSE than kyrie's is pathetic.

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217. "everyone on planet earth said this year was playoffs or bust for the cav..."
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the media, ppl on here, even the cavs OWNER
kyrie is underachieving and the team looks like it's headed to the lottery AGAIN
cavs fans were sold a bill of goods on what kyrie was going do
and the shit ain't happening and don't look like it's happening anytime soon
the dion stuff is probably some OOO shit but cavs fans have every right to be displeased with kyrie this year

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220. "nigga, the season ends in april...and they one spot of the playoffs. "
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see, i'm tryina REAL HARD to let this shit be the distant memory it's gonna be by all-star break when kyrie is puttin up consistent numbers and the cavs are headed to the playoffs. i'm tryna be civil, because i don't like doing that game-by-game shit. but, the way you niggas been actin lately, i'm bout to party every time someone y'all like shits the bed and someone i like balls out.

this shit is gettin pressed. say what you think and WAIT AND SEE. why is that so hard. that's why so many fuckin threads get upped because niggas say pressed shit after each game.

that's how kyle lowry be in PG WARZ for two weeks and be a regular ass PG a year later...niggas wit that game-by-game shit.

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221. "ppl predicted them to be a 4th or 5th seed...not 8th"
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and that was with the assumption the nets and knicks would be aight this year
getting a low seed as bad as the east is this year ain't really nothing to stick your feather in, but whatever. baby steps i guess

that game by game shit is whatever. ppl need shit to talk about, stop clicking every thread and just wait if it's making you mad

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222. "you muhfuckan right, baby steps..."
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they get in, they get in and here you go wit dumb shit, talmbout the seed. nah, nigga...you JUST said it was about MAKING THE PLAYOFFS. i don't give a fuck if they end tied for 8th and get in on a technicality. in is in

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225. "First off this post is dumb as hell..."
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Secondly things will only get better when they make Waiters the PG and take KI off of the basketball. I get tired off seeing Kyrie do nothing but dribble like he is on the Globetrotters. Then for him to only dribble the ball off of his leg in crucial situations.

  

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226. "nah, the new narrative of a month ain't gonna do 2 years of 4th quarters"
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so what he dribbled it off his foot...AND?

and now y'all REALLY beatin this drum about dion playing PG...LMAO. based on WHAT? this same MONTH?

and for the record, kyrie plays off ball PLENTY and he's better at it than dion.

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227. "The fuck you mean???"
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>so what he dribbled it off his foot...AND?
>
So you want your PG giving games away because he is O.C.?? It only proves that in key situations that he need to be off of the basketball so others can find him. I am tired off seeing him fuck up games!!!

>and now y'all REALLY beatin this drum about dion playing
>PG...LMAO. based on WHAT? this same MONTH?
>
>and for the record, kyrie plays off ball PLENTY and he's
>better at it than dion.

Then you should see my point then!!! Dion is clearly a better ball handler and he has a higher IQ out there in making decisions than Kyrie does. Dion is clearly better as running the offense. He has more control going to the hole than Kyrie. KI is not a PG, just deal with that.

  

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228. "aight...you jokin...carry on"
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>Then you should see my point then!!! Dion is clearly a better
>ball handler and he has a higher IQ out there in making
>decisions than Kyrie does. Dion is clearly better as running
>the offense. He has more control going to the hole than
>Kyrie. KI is not a PG, just deal with that.

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229. "this stan is not gonna be honest about the situation "
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dude is obsessed with Kyrie

  

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230. "and you just a piling-on bitch like every other crazy cavs fan"
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tryna blame your post-bron misery on my nigga...fuck outta here, bitch.

and yes, i'm a kyrie stan. this ain't news. it also ain't news that i knew waiters and his big ass were gonna be a disaster, because he thinks HE'S A STAR. he did the same shit at syracuse and he got y'all niggas fools with that gritty philly kid bullshit by "playing hard" when the cavs down 20 fuckin points, gettin a weak ass dunk and glaring back at niggas. he wack as fuck and the fact that niggas like you think this muhfucka is a "winner" tells me all i need to know.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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