3. "yeah, people are killing me on both sides of the issue at this point" In response to Reply # 1
While I could never side with baiting idiots like Mushnick, I'm not going to pretend the fact that ne never actually met his 'son' doesn't change the context quite a bit or side-eyeing AP saying 'when you lose a son, it's a very difficult thing' in interviews.
Stripped from the legal/paternity-test/financial-obligations, Manti Teo & Lennay Kekua had a deeper relationship than AP & this son.
And this article was a patronizing & plea-copping mess that I won't even bother going in on.
16. "I certainly woudln't say I'm looking to athletes for that, just saying" In response to Reply # 11
that the finger-pointing by the Mushnick-like opportunists is obviously awful but I'm also put off by some of the pandering/plea-copping on the other side as well.
It does feel awkward to hear AP talking about losing a son he never knew while certain fawning media & fans pretend it was something it wasn't.
5. "lets not play the apples to oranges 'he did it too' game, Brady knew and" In response to Reply # 2
acknowledged his son long before his actual birth and without a paternity test, mothered by a woman he had just been in a three-year-relationship with plus has partial custody of the kid.
AP meanwhile just acknowledged this kid's existence, never met him while alive & reportedly has at least 5 other out-of-wedlock kids that the public knows about.
20. "can we dead this convo now?.." In response to Reply # 0
..its apparent that the press ran with a bunch of bullshit, and no one outside of AP and the mothers of his children know the real deal.
all parties involved stated that he didn't even know about the child until recently, so there's really no reason to start pointing fingers. he's certainly not the first man to have children with different women.
everyone wants a story, but lost in all of this is the fact that a child died in a senseless tragedy, at the hands of a monster.
AP asked that people allow them to deal with this privately. is that such a stretch?
Pinko_Panther Member since Dec 11th 2002 11808 posts
Fri Oct-25-13 01:16 PM
35. "Most of OKS comments have missed the point of this article entirely..." In response to Reply # 0
The article has very little to do with AP as a person. It is simply highlighting a media frame that uses such a tragedy to push a faulty "personal responsibility" agenda that obscures social and economic realities. A lot of media commentators and writers have seized this story as an opportunity to make up a shitty moral tale about the general lack of morality among black fathers in America.
I agree that we should stay out of the personal lives of others, especially in a situation so tragic. What this article highlights is that the people who are sticking their noses in AP's lives are the very people who buy into this regressive, small-picture frame of "personal responsibility" that only serves to project a false image of black fathers as "the problem". When media frames stories this way, it sweeps real social and economic issues under the rug while promoting an agenda of character assault and finger pointing (the mainstream media's way of avoiding having the public educated about actual problems in society).
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36. "its kinda a no shit point at this point" In response to Reply # 35
like pointing out the tea partiers are racist, it's pretty much gotten to the point that people either already know, or never will accept the knowledge.
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37. "article is a mess-it ironically fails using the same approach it assails" In response to Reply # 35 Fri Oct-25-13 01:35 PM by Bombastic
i.e. taking a big-name to give platform to its own sweeping societal/political point of view on a larger issue.
It starts with Peterson's situation & one third of the way in spin-moves into a tale of black folks living along or under the poverty line when obviously that's not a group to which Adrian Peterson belongs.
And the pandering, condescending 'just because they don't live with their children doesn't mean they're not in their lives' part of the article when it features AP's name in its headline addressing his now-dead son who he had never met is problematic at best.
38. "So according to this study, if dude is not the breadwinner, he gone" In response to Reply # 0
THIS THEN begs the question of why many fathers do find it difficult to remain involved in a stable and long-term way. The answer to this has to begin with the reality of the high levels of Black unemployment and poverty. A 2007 study found that the ability of Black fathers to provide the majority of the financial support is the key determinant of whether he stays in the home.
HAHAHAHHAA
Yo what fucking study is this? where is the literature.
40. "clearly this was a problem for AP..." In response to Reply # 38
>The answer to this has to begin with the reality of the high >levels of Black unemployment and poverty. A 2007 study found >that the ability of Black fathers to provide the majority of >the financial support is the key determinant of whether he >stays in the home.
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