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"You guys were RIGHT! CHUMP KELLY is a FRAUD"


  

          

WHERE'S MY DAMN APOLOGY???

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/79186/hotsportstakes-chip-kelly-owes-the-national-football-league-an-apology

PHILADELPHIA Just once, wouldn't it be nice to get an apology from one of these college coaches?

Just once.

I just want one of these know-it-alls to admit that in the end, the NFL knew better.

You know the story before I've even written a word. The hotshot college coach who thought he could outsmart pro football. Teach the experts a thing or two. Save his quarterback's career. Spread out his receivers and conquer the big leagues. Press conferences full of hype all summer, then fall arrives, and crickets. The coach came, he saw, he got conquered. He promised to reinvent the wheel, he left with the engine on fire.

You could throw 15 names into that story over the last 25 years, but this week it's the Eagles mastermind we're talking about. I've started calling him Chump Kelly.

You won't find many silver linings in this playbook.

Did you see the game Sunday? The one when the Eagles got embarrassed at home against the hated Dallas Cowboys? That was a genius on the Philadelphia sideline. A celebrity. A rock star. The guy who promised us 10 touchdowns before you could blink.

But there he was Sunday, staring into the distance while his high-powered offense scored three points in 60 minutes. Chip?

What a chump.

It's a tale as old as time. Before anyone ever played a down of football, there was once a hotshot named Icarus who thought the rules didn't apply to him. His father made him wings of feathers and wax so he could fly away to a better life. There was only one warning that came along with the wings: "Don't fly too close to the sun, son, because the wax wings might melt."

But Icarus thought he was bigger than the laws of the universe. He went right for the sun.

Spoiler alert: His wings melted and he came crashing back to earth.

You don't have to be Zeus to see the parallels to this year's Eagles. They started out hot, but it turns out players aren't built to run 100 plays an hour. Eagles are getting injured left and right, the fast-paced offense has slowed to a crawl, and everyone's wings are melting.

It turns out the laws of the NFL universe apply to everyone.

Even masterminds.

All this brings me back to a year ago, when Nick Saban a patron saint for hard-nosed football saw the explosion of spread offenses and no-huddle gimmicks. He spoke for football fans everywhere when he asked, "Is this what we want football to be?"

But see, that's where the plot thickens. Rest easy, Saint Nick.

It doesn't matter what we want football to be. The game decides. All these innovators can do their best Icarus impression, but the most remarkable aspect of America's game is the way it never fails to expose these hippie-dippie gimmicks on the field. The gridiron is the ultimate arbiter of justice.

This is a results-oriented business, and if your brilliant scheme doesn't work?

You're out of work.

That's what we're seeing with the Eagles this year. This Chip's crumbling, and it's only a matter of time before someone in Philly decides to grab the vacuum.

Michael Vick hasn't looked good since the first half of the first game. LeSean McCoy has only cracked 100 rushing yards three times in two months. The passing game is a disaster, the defense is in shambles. These are the facts.

We're all just waiting for the housecleaning.

A few more months, or a few more years. Isn't that the biggest question left with the Chip Kelly era? The spread offense is a dead offense. The fireworks have come and gone, and all we have left is a guy who's afraid to take responsibility.

The Chump goes out and gets embarrassed on national TV last weekend, and afterward, it's everybody's fault. I don't think we blocked very well," he said. "I don't think we caught the ball very well. I don't think we got off routes very well. It was 11 guys on offense. It was all of us on offense, me calling plays, everybody. It's not just one guy."

Right, of course. It's not just one guy.

It's definitely not just one guy who came into the NFL talking the talk and then got walked all over. Anyone who sees that must be watching a different game.

The Chump has spoken.

Sure, he could've done the classy thing and apologize to all the coaches who came before him. The guys he sneered at on his way into the pros. Apologize to Michael Vick, apologize to Nick Foles. Apologize to Philadelphia. Apologize to you, for promising everything and delivering nothing.

Most of all, he could admit he was wrong and apologize to the National Football League for underestimating everyone. Admit that after all that hype and all that money, he thought the laws of the NFL universe didn't apply to him.

But hey, it's everybody's fault. Remember? No apology necessary. It's never the driver's fault when the engine catches fire. It just sort of happens. A lot of things go wrong.

Whatever you say.

Maybe I'm being unfair, maybe this is all premature, and maybe Chip doesn't have to admit defeat. Maybe you think Chip just needs more time and better players. Maybe, sure. But I've been in this business a long time. I know how this story ends. Maybe you're not ready to call him Chump Kelly just yet.

But you'll never call him Champ Kelly.

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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

  

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The comments sections on #HOTSPORTSTAKES = best thing on internet
Oct 22nd 2013
1
Matt Barkley's no Thad Lewis (Right Today)
Oct 22nd 2013
2
Didn't a college coach just get a pro head coaching job and make
Oct 22nd 2013
3
harbaughs aren't "college coaches"
Oct 22nd 2013
6
Rick Reilly is reading this in awe
Oct 22nd 2013
4
...
Oct 22nd 2013
5
lol this is some outstanding bullshit
Oct 22nd 2013
7
^^^ all this
Oct 22nd 2013
9
chip toys with defenses and he LEARNS (c) sfmatt
Oct 23rd 2013
29
      hey, I owned it.
Oct 23rd 2013
36
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8072/chipncliffapplaud.gif
Oct 22nd 2013
8
lol how have I never seen that
Oct 22nd 2013
11
Meanwhile, A.Reid getting standing O's as he jogs in locker room
Oct 22nd 2013
10
RE: Meanwhile, A.Reid won 4 games last year
Oct 22nd 2013
13
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/193wxp0ekwqcsgif/original.gif
Oct 22nd 2013
15
      lol....awesome!
Oct 22nd 2013
17
      Bwahahahaha
Oct 22nd 2013
20
      hahahaha
Oct 22nd 2013
26
      Yeah, I saw that earlier today. Truly golden. LMAO!
Oct 22nd 2013
27
      theres something heart warming abt seeing a happy fat white man
Oct 23rd 2013
30
      That's beautiful. LOL
Oct 23rd 2013
33
mainly because he has no input into personnel
Oct 22nd 2013
14
      wait is this the plea we're copping now?
Oct 22nd 2013
23
           All respect due to Andy Reid. 7-0 is impressive no matter
Oct 22nd 2013
28
nah, the media needs to apologize.
Oct 22nd 2013
12
this reads like a mean bill plaschke wrote it
Oct 22nd 2013
16
Lol
Oct 22nd 2013
21
guys, this is intentional trolling. *sighs*
Oct 22nd 2013
18
everyone else in this thread: http://tinyurl.com/p7xgdmh
Oct 22nd 2013
19
      i don't think anyone in here isn't trolling someone
Oct 22nd 2013
24
RE: You guys were RIGHT! CHUMP KELLY is a FRAUD
Oct 22nd 2013
22
whoa ..howd i miss this...
Oct 22nd 2013
25
Awesome. Sad I missed this. hahahah
Oct 23rd 2013
32
Something about Tha_Truth being a dope rapper makes me smile
Oct 23rd 2013
34
He's playing with NFL house money anyway
Oct 23rd 2013
31
RE: You guys were RIGHT! CHUMP KELLY is a FRAUD
Oct 23rd 2013
35
Raider Fan unable to understand satire or show post-ass-smash? Shocker.
Nov 04th 2013
48
League has totally figured this offense out
Nov 03rd 2013
37
Foles having some fun
Nov 03rd 2013
38
apologies to be give later.
Nov 03rd 2013
39
andy reid made qb2s look real good against shitty teams too
Nov 03rd 2013
40
      did he get a backup an nfl record for TDs in a game?
Nov 03rd 2013
41
           this seems entirely consistent with the kelly criticism
Nov 03rd 2013
42
           oh look, a moving target
Nov 03rd 2013
43
                the target is always winning the super bowl.
Nov 03rd 2013
44
                     the target for dallas is circling the fucking drain every year
Nov 03rd 2013
45
                     we've long-acknowledged our offensive minded hc is a fraud.
Nov 03rd 2013
46
                     Dumb ass eagle fans will never get it.
Nov 03rd 2013
47
           is d'antoni a genius for Linsanity?
Nov 04th 2013
49

Jayson Willyams
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1. "The comments sections on #HOTSPORTSTAKES = best thing on internet"
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Kira
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2. "Matt Barkley's no Thad Lewis (Right Today)"
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Tue Oct-22-13 01:45 PM by Kira

  

          

OH NOES! THE THIRD STRING ROOKUE QUARTERBACK SUCKED!

Y'all should fire "Chump Kelly" on some Lame Kiffin shit. That'll learn him.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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bentagain
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3. "Didn't a college coach just get a pro head coaching job and make"
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Tue Oct-22-13 01:59 PM by bentagain

  

          

a superbowl appearance running the spread no huddle gimmick offense

?

Belicheat incorporated Kelly's offense in NE last year

This article is all over the place

taking shots at Shady?

the real question is does Chip tank the rest of the season to get Mariota in the draft

or actually TRY to win games/NFC East/make a playoff appearance?

we're 1 game out.

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6. "harbaughs aren't "college coaches""
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and the guy who went from ivies to new hampshire to oregon certainly is.

  

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4. "Rick Reilly is reading this in awe"
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5. "..."
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Famousfarrah.com <--- a webseries I worked on

  

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7. "lol this is some outstanding bullshit"
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Tue Oct-22-13 02:12 PM by sfMatt

  

          

I appreciate the intent now, having had an extra minute.
I fell for it hook line and sinker, and for full disclosure, my initial response:

The MEDIA and his fans (such as myself) talk him up as a genius innovator who changes/is changing the game.

Chip himself? Nah. He's a football coach, and he hasn't arrived or proven a damn thing.

Yea he's smug
Yea he's cocky
He's confident - which is what you want in a coach.

But he didn't go in there trying to convince anybody that he does things in some fundamentally superior way to everyone else. Cmon.

That particular shade of arrogance is a media/fan creation, and now the media are right there to tear it down as if Chip did it himself. FOH.

  

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9. "^^^ all this"
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29. "chip toys with defenses and he LEARNS (c) sfmatt"
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36. "hey, I owned it."
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I still believe it.

He's going to get it going.

  

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8. "http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8072/chipncliffapplaud.gif"
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11. "lol how have I never seen that"
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10. "Meanwhile, A.Reid getting standing O's as he jogs in locker room"
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Lmao

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13. "RE: Meanwhile, A.Reid won 4 games last year"
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and doesn't jog ANYWHERE

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http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/193wxp0ekwqcsgif/original.gif

  

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17. "lol....awesome! "
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20. "Bwahahahaha"
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26. "hahahaha"
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27. "Yeah, I saw that earlier today. Truly golden. LMAO!"
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30. "theres something heart warming abt seeing a happy fat white man"
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i imagine i wouldnt have felt like that back in the slave days as the overseer was prolly jovial & fat as shit, when not flaying Black ppl alive & raping em

but n 2013 this puts a smile on my face


does it even matter?

  

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33. "That's beautiful. LOL"
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Same as it ever was!

  

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14. "mainly because he has no input into personnel"
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and thus can't fuck up the roster

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23. "wait is this the plea we're copping now? "
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please elaborate

  

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28. "All respect due to Andy Reid. 7-0 is impressive no matter"
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how you slice it. I'm glad to see him do well in K.C. regardless of how weird it looks to see him in red.

I think what BShelly is getting at is that Reid is outstanding when he has a solid nucleus of players to build with - especially when he has a great defense to work with (In Philly he had BDawk, Trotter, Hugh Douglass, Troy Vincent, Bobby Taylor, Ike Reese). However, give Andy the power to make the personnel moves and you won't likely see those same results. As Reid got more and more control over the team, the talent level rapidly declined. He did a horrible job of evaluating talent (Jaiqwan Jarret in the 2nd round!??!) and bringing in free agents toward the last several years of his coaching tenure in Philly. And please don't try to pretend that you and numerous other OKPers didn't ridicule Andy when he chose his long time OL coach (Juan Castillo) to run his defense.

Andy is an extremely gifted coach in some areas (creating a culture of winning, consistency, camaraderie, etc.) and extremely flawed in others (clock management, in-game adjustments, and evaluating talent).

  

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12. "nah, the media needs to apologize."
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it makes sense to take your usual gameplan and try to apply it to a different league, especially if you think you have the personnel. of course you'll have to adjust eventually, who doesn't? and speaking with some hope in the offseason? eh, why wouldn't you? you risk overhype, but it makes less sense to play down expectations.

it was the media that declared chip the start of a revolution after ONE week. Jaws was the biggest culprit, but other people fell for it too. i mean at least wait for a 4-5 game sample size.

  

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16. "this reads like a mean bill plaschke wrote it"
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21. "Lol"
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If this dude does a complete 180 after a couple successive victories and writes an article praising Chip with an 'I told you so' demeanor, then we'll know it is Plaschke.

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18. "guys, this is intentional trolling. *sighs*"
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19. "everyone else in this thread: http://tinyurl.com/p7xgdmh"
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http://tinyurl.com/p7xgdmh

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24. "i don't think anyone in here isn't trolling someone"
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there's literally no point to any team in the nfc east right now other than trolling some other fan base.

  

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22. "RE: You guys were RIGHT! CHUMP KELLY is a FRAUD"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2214633&mesg_id=2214633&page=3#2228837

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25. "whoa ..howd i miss this..."
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GOLDEN

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32. "Awesome. Sad I missed this. hahahah"
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34. "Something about Tha_Truth being a dope rapper makes me smile"
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31. "He's playing with NFL house money anyway"
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Wed Oct-23-13 07:53 AM by DeepAztheRoot

  

          

He decides he wants to return to the college game he can about name his price and his job based on the collegiate resume

It would be on some Bill Stewart/Dana Holgorsen ...push out the door ish most everywhere

I still think it's a little early before he has a chance at new roster management

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35. "RE: You guys were RIGHT! CHUMP KELLY is a FRAUD"
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LOL... I told ya'll YEARS AGO about Filly phans...

  

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48. "Raider Fan unable to understand satire or show post-ass-smash? Shocker."
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>LOL... I told ya'll YEARS AGO about Filly phans...

  

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37. "League has totally figured this offense out"
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38. "Foles having some fun"
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39. "apologies to be give later. "
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Seems he has no fucks to give anyway.

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40. "andy reid made qb2s look real good against shitty teams too"
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41. "did he get a backup an nfl record for TDs in a game?"
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you know, with his offense that the entire league had figured out?

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42. "this seems entirely consistent with the kelly criticism"
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going gangbusters on some shit that doesn't matter. oakland's spent the last decade not figuring out shit everyone else already knows.

but you're crowing about getting 7 tds on oakland when you could prob win with 2.

then won't get 7 in the next month and pick up 3 losses.

  

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43. "oh look, a moving target"
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44. "the target is always winning the super bowl."
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forget about moving target, yall can't even see it, so i understand the confusion.

  

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45. "the target for dallas is circling the fucking drain every year"
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they have done a great job of it for coming on two decades. congratulations.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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46. "we've long-acknowledged our offensive minded hc is a fraud. "
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but yall can be mad as shit about me calling certain eagles fans out on partying on some fools' gold while still being losers.

  

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47. "Dumb ass eagle fans will never get it. "
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49. "is d'antoni a genius for Linsanity?"
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