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"Uh oh RBO, Mark Price is trying to get your boy right!"
Wed Oct-02-13 08:32 AM by ThaTruth

          

He takes a slight shot at Cal's "player development", but I guess it's all good...

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/price-working-fix-kidd-gilchrists-213926780--nba.html

Price working to fix Kidd-Gilchrist's jumper

By STEVE REED (AP Sports Writer) | The Associated Press – 15 hours ago

ASHEVILLE, N.C. (AP) -- Bobcats assistant coach Mark Price said fixing Michael Kidd-Gilchrist's jump shot is akin to performing major reconstructive surgery: It's going to take some time.
''There are a lot of different areas that need some work,'' Price said.
Price was one of the NBA's best shooters during his 13-year career, which is why Bobcats owner Michael Jordan hired him to correct Kidd-Gilchrist's flawed mechanics.
Kidd-Gilchrist's shortcomings include not squaring his shoulders to the basket, turning his elbow in awkwardly when he shoots and often times releasing the ball on his descent rather than his ascent.
It's still early in the process and the changes in the former Kentucky star's jump shot may not be recognizable in the preseason.
But Price said he's encouraged with the subtle progress Kidd-Gilchrist has shown as well as the second-year pro's eagerness to learn - which he said can be half of the battle when dealing with NBA players.
''He wants to get better,'' Price said Tuesday following Charlotte's first training camp practice at UNC-Asheville.
Price said he's amazed that nobody fixed Kidd-Gilchrist's jump shot at some point before he helped Kentucky win a national championship and became the second overall pick in last year's NBA draft.
''Absolutely, that's the first thing that comes to your mind,'' Price said. ''But I think he's been physically superior at every other level and he's gotten away with it somehow.''
Now it's Price's job to fix it.
He started working with Kidd-Gilchrist this summer and in the short time he's had to spend with him - MKG's participation with USA Basketball and the NBA Summer League limited the time they could work together - his focus has been on trying to improve the second-year pro's footwork.
Price said good, consistent shooters keep their shoulders squared to the basket.
Kidd-Gilchrist doesn't.
''He was almost pointed sideways to the basket when he shoots,'' Price said. ''He's not all the way there yet, but we're slowly getting it moved around to where the shoulders are squared up. It's a process.''
He's also been working on Kidd-Gilchrist's pre-shot preparation, making sure his hands are out and ready to receive the ball.
Price said he won't start working on tougher tasks - like his awkward bent-in shooting elbow - until next summer. He doesn't want to throw too much at him at once and risk ruining his confidence entering the season.
''When I'm working with someone's shot, there is minor surgery which includes a few tweaks and there is major reconstructive surgery - this is reconstructive,'' Price said.
It has been an exercise in patience for both men.
Kidd-Gilchrist, who turned 20 last month, has spent his teenage years shooting the same jump shot in AAU and high school ball. But his ability to get to the basket and run the floor often made up for his peculiar form.
Now he's learning old habits are hard to break.
''I don't know if it was just hard on me. It was hard on Mark, too,'' Kidd-Gilchrist said.
Said Price: ''He gets frustrated sometimes, but like I've told him: 'This is a process. It's not going to happen overnight. You're not going to be Chris Mullin next week. It's going to take some time.'''
But Kidd-Gilchrist said he's willing to learn.
''I want to get better at this game,'' Kidd-Gilchrist said of his regular pre- and post-practice tutoring sessions with Price. ''I want to be an All-Star at some point.''
Kidd-Gilchrist said he ''disappointed'' with his rookie season with the Bobcats. While he averaged a respectable 9 points and 5.8 rebounds per game, he failed to reach his goal of being named NBA Rookie of the Year.
He wasn't even selected to the All-Rookie first team, another major letdown and unreached goal.
''I was mad at myself,'' Kidd-Gilchrist said. ''I set goals and I didn't reach any of the goals that I set. All my life I did that and last year I didn't reach one goal.''
NOTES: Former NBA coach Stan Van Gundy took in practice Tuesday on the campus of UNC-Asheville. Steve Clifford has worked with Van Gundy in the past. ... The Bobcats added free agent guards Troy Daniels and Abdul Gaddy and center Patrick O'Bryant to their training camp roster.

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Yeah he's been working with him since the summer.
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*shots fired*
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Damn@This
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lol there are PLENTY of non "text book" jumpshots in the
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      Pretty much.
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      True but most don't include every single flaw in the book.
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      I'm Not Talking About Form
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           he doesn't shoot on the way down though
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#2 overall PROJECT
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He's playoffs were a 2 week 17ppg run against little ass guards
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better than that two weeks of MKG not breaking double digits
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      barnes was supposed to be #1 overall...he just got exposed
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Tony Parker gonna be guarding him all year?
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      Tony Parker was guarding him in the denver series?
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           lol
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           When he shot a scalding 45%? This is the benchmark now?
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Harkless better. nm.
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^^^
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No.
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Good for him. It'll only make him better.
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couldnt resist a direct comparison eh? lmao
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Excellent, always great to see youngsters improve their game
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if only MKG had played for Bobby Hurley Sr instead of Kevin Boyle
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I dunno, have you seen Kyle Anderson shoot?
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      like Big Fudge, Anderson just made a grave error in choice of college
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you can't blame college coaches for poor shooting mechanics
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1. "Yeah he's been working with him since the summer."
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Mark worked with Rondo once.

MKG has to get rid of that hitch, and get his feet properly set and he'll be fine.

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2. "*shots fired* "
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"Price said he's amazed that nobody fixed Kidd-Gilchrist's jump shot at some point before he helped Kentucky win a national championship and became the second overall pick in last year's NBA draft."



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3. "Damn@This"
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>Kidd-Gilchrist's shortcomings include not squaring his
>shoulders to the basket, turning his elbow in awkwardly when
>he shoots and often times releasing the ball on his descent
>rather than his ascent.
That's shit you learn in elementary school...you're a pro and still release the ball on the way down?

That's a damn shame...this is a massive coaching fail

  

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6. "lol there are PLENTY of non "text book" jumpshots in the"
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come on now.

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9. "Pretty much."
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19. "True but most don't include every single flaw in the book."
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21. "I'm Not Talking About Form"
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You don't need a Glen Rice/Allan Houston form type of jumpshot...shoot how you feel comfortable

But I haven't seen ANY college OR pro ball player that releases their shot on the way DOWN...that's just terrible

No matter how unconventional the mechanics are (ex: Kevin Martin), 99.9% of players release their shot at the apex or close to on the way up. Releasing the shot on the way down is just wow

  

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26. "he doesn't shoot on the way down though"
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4. "#2 overall PROJECT"
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no idea what the warriors plans are for barnes now that they have iggy
but if he gets the minutes and exerts himself like he did in the playoffs...
i expect his polish and high bball IQ to shine thru while MKG is focused on developing CYO level fundamentals

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5. "He's playoffs were a 2 week 17ppg run against little ass guards"
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he had a WHOLE season...9 and 4. FOH!

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8. "better than that two weeks of MKG not breaking double digits"
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getting hella garbage time minutes at that
#2 overall 9 and 5

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16. "barnes was supposed to be #1 overall...he just got exposed"
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i'm leaving them fall 2010 expectations right where they were. he's a bust.

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11. "Tony Parker gonna be guarding him all year?"
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>but if he gets the minutes and exerts himself like he did in
>the playoffs...

  

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12. "Tony Parker was guarding him in the denver series?"
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damn yall niggas pressed for false ass narratives

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15. "When he shot a scalding 45%? This is the benchmark now?"
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I mean, yeah he played better than 9 and 4. Congrats, I guess.


Talk about pressed...the lengths you are going to hype dude up is just strange. He aight.

  

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10. "Good for him. It'll only make him better."
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He's already a tantalizing prospect for the future... if he can learn to shoot in a Price-like form? Sheeeeeeeit.

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20. "if only MKG had played for Bobby Hurley Sr instead of Kevin Boyle"
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That crook let him do whatever he wanted to do, got owned by Hurley in MKG's last HS game & then cut bait to take an offer down at one of those fake-child-labor-Florida-'academies' where practices are longer than the time they're in class.

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25. "like Big Fudge, Anderson just made a grave error in choice of college"
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he will be better in the pros than as a Bruin like JRue Holiday was.

Big Fudge will also become Othella Harrington under Big Lil John III.

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23. "you can't blame college coaches for poor shooting mechanics"
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They only have so many hours with these guys. They don't have time to reconstruct someone's shot like that. That's really hard to change at this point too. Glad he's putting in the work, it will take time. And Cal only had him for a year, so this isn't on him..

Blame the system that's got these kids running around, playing hundreds of games at really young ages, often without teaching them basics like correct shooting mechanics.

Squaring your shoulders and having your hands ready....good God. He should've learned that in Junior High.

  

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