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Ceej
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"Yea so Floyds fighting canelo"
Wed May-29-13 09:14 PM by Ceej

  

          

https://twitter.com/floydmayweather/status/339927420972978177

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waits for WarrenCoolidge's hating ass to spin this...
May 29th 2013
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Sept 15th:
May 29th 2013
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Sept 14. 11:55pm
May 29th 2013
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Sept 15th: Canelo had to drop too much weight, Floyd could have gained 6...
May 29th 2013
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Canelo Was Past His Prime When Floyd Fought Him
May 29th 2013
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Floyd didn't stand in the middle of the ring and have a slugfest.
May 29th 2013
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^ KEEN PEEPOLOGISTS ABOVE ^
May 29th 2013
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i predict a 1 sided beatdown...PBF in a snoozer
May 29th 2013
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Sounds good, any word on the weight?
May 29th 2013
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just saw this. props
May 29th 2013
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supposedly 152
May 29th 2013
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      that's fair
May 29th 2013
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Floyd is concerned about legacy and it's a beautiful thing
May 29th 2013
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I think its a good fight but personally I think Corales/Castill/Mosley
May 29th 2013
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RE: I think its a good fight but personally I think Corales/Castill/Mosl...
May 29th 2013
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      I agree its the best fight right now but if floyd beats him in similar f...
May 29th 2013
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           RE: I agree its the best fight right now but if floyd beats him in simil...
May 31st 2013
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Indeed
May 29th 2013
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^^
May 30th 2013
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so what's gonna be the excuse when he tapdances around Canelo
May 29th 2013
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i thought canelo lost against trout
May 29th 2013
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      plea #1
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      And were off!
May 29th 2013
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      DAMN!!! WASTED NO TIME with the pre-emptive COP
May 29th 2013
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           dis nug said
May 30th 2013
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Canelo's tweet
May 29th 2013
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REMEMBER THE LEAD-UP NARRATIVE, EVERYONE!!!
May 29th 2013
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at 25lbs lighter than he normally fights.
May 29th 2013
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      plea #2
May 29th 2013
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      http://tinyurl.com/no26gst
May 29th 2013
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      Nigga pleas
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That's shaping up to be a pretty solid sports weekend
May 29th 2013
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^wow
May 30th 2013
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there's 2 ways to beat Floyd..
May 29th 2013
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Like I said with Pacquiao...
May 29th 2013
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This will never happen
May 29th 2013
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      oh that's right; this is Showtime.
May 29th 2013
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Warren Coolidge is rolling over in his grave
May 29th 2013
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RE: Warren Coolidge is Trolling over in his grave
May 29th 2013
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Bwhahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa *uurrrrrrrrrrrppppp*!!!!!!
May 29th 2013
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Wow. Can't Wait (c)
May 29th 2013
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Hell yeh. May be the first PPV I order since....ever lol
May 29th 2013
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Wait. people didn't think this fight was happening?
May 29th 2013
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Booyah! Props to Floyd for taking this fight and it should be a good one...
May 29th 2013
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On Mexican Independence Day Weekend...lol Money May in-fuckin-deed
May 30th 2013
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Floyd agreeing to fight at 152 is the first time I can honestly say
May 30th 2013
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bwaahahahahahaha
May 30th 2013
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he isn't really "heavily" favored against canelo
May 30th 2013
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yea probably a ton of financial pressure to make this happen
May 30th 2013
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The double standard here is really too absurd to ignore
May 30th 2013
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      ^^^TABERNACLE
May 30th 2013
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      Honestly, this is why I want Floyd to lose. I can't stand it anymore
May 30th 2013
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      you're confused....
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      the weight is actually less relevant than are they winnable fights
May 30th 2013
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      How would Floyd do against Andre Ward in an underwater chess match?
May 30th 2013
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      lolololol
May 30th 2013
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      *facepalm*
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      They are different fighters...different ages..at different points in car...
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      there's no shame in admitting you have much to learn.
May 30th 2013
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      Most people that have never had to cut weight for combat don't...
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      what an idiot
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      Damn...
May 30th 2013
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      Thank you for shutting that dumb ass nigga down
May 30th 2013
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      lol...shut down...these debates are no competition at all...
May 30th 2013
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           Fam, you said Floyd should fight around 157-160, just 'lift weights'
May 30th 2013
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                I'm disappointed in WC.... as fellow residents of Kobestan
May 30th 2013
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                Kobe's rings were earned against the best competition..
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                     u really dont tho.
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                I said that he should fight Ward at 157ish .... again...he'd beat Ward
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      Thank you. A few things....
May 30th 2013
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Excellent....I'm all for a blk dude beating up a messican
May 30th 2013
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lol.
May 30th 2013
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after floyd beats this clown i want him to retire.
May 30th 2013
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He won't.
May 30th 2013
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I see floyd getting robbed by judges
May 30th 2013
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yeah im actually more worried about this than i should be
May 30th 2013
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He's fighting a 22 y/o who will outweigh him by 20lbs on fight night.
May 30th 2013
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      i wish there was a way to penalize him for being more than 15 lbs
May 30th 2013
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           They won't. And I'm personally picking Canelo by knockout.
May 30th 2013
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the fact that he has 4 more fights?
May 30th 2013
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DOPE props to him and his team for getting this done ...wait
May 30th 2013
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Guess the debate on Canelo coming to 147 was a waste of hours
May 30th 2013
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um....mayweather beat The Big Show
May 30th 2013
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Lol. That cat casually stepped over the top rope.
May 30th 2013
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Early returns: Floyd should have fought Serigo or GGG instead of Canelo
May 30th 2013
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Yeah...saw this post on my FB timeline this morning - and this is
May 30th 2013
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Who is really calling from Golovkin or Martinez right now?
May 30th 2013
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Where are people saying this??? you puttin extras now...
May 30th 2013
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see thats just being retarded
May 30th 2013
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      Warren said Floyd could easily fight at 160 lbs
May 30th 2013
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           Floyd in antique battle armor vs. Andre Ward missing a leg
May 30th 2013
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                Battle armor? According to Warren, all Floyd has to do is lift weights.
May 30th 2013
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                     did he say how Ward is getting down to (lol) 158?
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                     Also, Lebron James should wear ankle weights during games
May 30th 2013
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                          I have no doubt Bron would beat Prometheus in 3050 AD
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                               Lebron ain't shit till he gives the NFL a chance imo
May 30th 2013
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I am seriously considering copping tix, when they go on sale
May 30th 2013
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LOL at the agendas creating a bizarro OKS thread
May 30th 2013
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Nah, I usually go by boxing physics over intuition
May 30th 2013
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      he's still gotta find Floyd tho
May 30th 2013
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A little pre-emptive swipe: Saul Alvarez "I'll drop to 150..."
May 30th 2013
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by the way - don't allow ppl to ruin this fight for you.
May 30th 2013
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your boxing G is unfukwittable (FOH w/ your KANG shit tho), but
May 30th 2013
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RE: your boxing G is unfukwittable (FOH w/ your KANG shit tho), but
May 30th 2013
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Do you think "supercards" will ever happen
May 31st 2013
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      Whats the motivation tho??
May 31st 2013
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      Bring in the more casual fan
May 31st 2013
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           I dont think it would double revenue so there is no need to
May 31st 2013
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      no, because of $ and ego
May 31st 2013
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           Yeah that was my thought too
May 31st 2013
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Best MadMaker of All-Time? Bron v Floyd
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It's not even a competition
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      I really don't get the Floyd hate..... lol
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http://blacksportsonline.com/index/29bo8wm.gif
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I'm watching this one
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lol...You Floyd fans really need to get over yourself...you are picking
May 30th 2013
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who da hell is picking floyd to lose?! LOL
May 30th 2013
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OE and a couple others...peep up...
May 30th 2013
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I picked John Ruiz to beat Roy Jones Jr.
May 30th 2013
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      lolol.. the Ruiz Jones fight should have shown you physics ain't shit
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           Boxing physics is more than just total weight.
May 30th 2013
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                aren't you paying attention????
May 30th 2013
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looking forward to it
May 30th 2013
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and no re-hydration clause....wow...g'head Floyd (swipe)
May 30th 2013
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LOL...a 26 lb weight advantage....Canelo should take this easy
May 30th 2013
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nigga stop
May 31st 2013
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      He's 14 years younger, weighs 26 lbs more
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           OE setting up the mean pull counter
May 31st 2013
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                You should not lose to a man 36 y/o that you outweigh by 25 lbs.
May 31st 2013
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                     I agree w/ the boxing physics analysis, however,
May 31st 2013
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                          Yeah. I had 2-hour convo about this fight last night.
May 31st 2013
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neither one of them are gonna even try to make this weight lol
May 31st 2013
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Floyd speaking on fighting SERGIO MARTINEZ (swipe)
May 31st 2013
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what does this prove?
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people are acting like the concept of Floyd moving up to middle
May 31st 2013
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      Floyd moving to middle is completely outrageous.
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      Floyd's comment about moving to middle was not the same as
May 31st 2013
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      Why would Floyd move up, when Maravilla already said he'd move
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           ask Floyd...he said he was open to it...n/m
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meh, he consistently contradicts himself
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1. "waits for WarrenCoolidge's hating ass to spin this..."
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2. "Sept 15th:"
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Canelo Alvarez was an unseasoned fighter who wasn't ready for this level of competition and was never a true threat to Mayweather.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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3. "Sept 14. 11:55pm"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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5. "Sept 15th: Canelo had to drop too much weight, Floyd could have gained 6..."
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6. "Canelo Was Past His Prime When Floyd Fought Him"
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8. "Floyd didn't stand in the middle of the ring and have a slugfest. "
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21. "^ KEEN PEEPOLOGISTS ABOVE ^"
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4. "i predict a 1 sided beatdown...PBF in a snoozer"
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& the haters STILL wont give him his props

  

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7. "Sounds good, any word on the weight? "
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9. "just saw this. props"
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assuming it's at 154

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10. "supposedly 152"
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edit: per steve kim (@stevemaxboxing)

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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14. "that's fair "
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11. "Floyd is concerned about legacy and it's a beautiful thing"
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his dossier is crazy and if he defeats Canelo, it will really
be such a definitive victory that nobody will have credibility
in criticizing his resume. Mega props.

I think it's a very tough fight for Floyd.

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15. "I think its a good fight but personally I think Corales/Castill/Mosley "
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were more impressive than this one.

Where do you think this fight ranks on resume as far as competition?

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19. "RE: I think its a good fight but personally I think Corales/Castill/Mosl..."
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>were more impressive than this one.
>
>Where do you think this fight ranks on resume as far as
>competition?

high. Canelo is an undefeated lion - arguably second in draw/appeal
to only Mayweather (or 3rd behind only Floyd & Pacquiao) - and Canelo
is dangerous for Floyd because of his size and his style. Granted, Canelo's
performance against Trout left much to be desired, but he still showcased
world-class punching power, an improved defense, and flashes of absolute
brilliance. There is no tougher fight for Mayweather out there right now. None.


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20. "I agree its the best fight right now but if floyd beats him in similar f..."
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do you think he gets the credit or will it be "overhyping a young fighter" sentiment?

I mean Canelo's resume isn't great. Floyd technically has nothing to gain other than another "top contender" being put in his place.

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130. "RE: I agree its the best fight right now but if floyd beats him in simil..."
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>do you think he gets the credit or will it be "overhyping a
>young fighter" sentiment?

I think to those who are being fair and clear-minded, he will
get tremendous credit for taking the most dangerous fight
available. To those who lust a Mayweather loss, they will certainly
spin it to being a fairly meaningless win, but they won't have
real credibility in that critique. This is a brave and commendable
move by Floyd, and to me it shows that he really is fighting
for legacy at this point of his career.

> I mean Canelo's resume isn't great. Floyd technically has
>nothing to gain other than another "top contender" being put
>in his place.

I disagree - I think Floyd has a lot to gain w/ this win, which would
be a signature win on his resume, derailing Canelo - who in my opinion
is the most dynamic rising fighter in the sport and a future hall of famer.
I don't look at Canelo as a 'contender' - but a champion who will have a long
run as such. It's a great situation for Canelo, who stands to gain unbelievable
appraisal should he win, and if he loses? He lost to the greatest fighter
of the new century, and one of the greatest fighters, ever. To me, the
risk is with Floyd - and I love that he's taking this risk.




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36. "Indeed"
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>I think it's a very tough fight for Floyd.

Man....I'm amped

How've you been?

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49. "^^ "
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12. "so what's gonna be the excuse when he tapdances around Canelo"
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for an hour. Canelo aint seasoned enough for a vet like Floyd?

we already know what's gonna go down. i just want to know the mental gymnastics Floyd haters will use to devalue this win.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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17. "i thought canelo lost against trout "
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no one will pick canelo to win necessarily
but it's not about that really
this is a fight people actually WANT
and all things considered it's the biggest challenge floyd can take right now
this dumb narrative that ppl retroactively rate floyds opponents is not true just because ppl called ortiz and guerrero out as the bullshit jobbers that they were
no one hated on the DLH match, no one hates on the hatton or JMM matches even tho they were 1 sided, and even though cotto was probably completely washed up and damaged no one hates on that fight either
make fights that ppl are semi interested in and they won't hate
devon alexander? amir khan? no thanks
canelo? GOOD

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22. "plea #1"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html

  

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32. "And were off!"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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35. "DAMN!!! WASTED NO TIME with the pre-emptive COP"
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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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101. "dis nug said"
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"no one hates on the hatton or JMM matches even tho they were 1 sided, and even though cotto was probably completely washed up and damaged no one hates on that fight either"


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13. "Canelo's tweet"
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https://twitter.com/caneloOficial/status/339929286515511297

Translation: The summt is near. On Sept 14th, there will be a new king!

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16. "REMEMBER THE LEAD-UP NARRATIVE, EVERYONE!!! "
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this is SUPPOSED to be a good fight. floyd is fighting a WORTHY foe, capable of beating his ass.

REMEMBER THIS

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18. "at 25lbs lighter than he normally fights."
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23. "plea #2"
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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AlBundy
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25. "http://tinyurl.com/no26gst"
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http://tinyurl.com/no26gst

  

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mtbatol
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80. "Nigga pleas"
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24. "That's shaping up to be a pretty solid sports weekend"
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Texas A&M vs Alabama
Floyd vs Canelo
Niners vs Seahawks


  

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42. "^wow "
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grassrootsphilosopher

  

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LegacyNS
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26. "there's 2 ways to beat Floyd.."
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#1. He eventually slows down & you're the lucky fighter in the ring when it happens..

#2. You land a fight altering punch of series of punches.

If neither happens, he beats Canelo..

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Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html

  

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27. "Like I said with Pacquiao..."
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I don't believe it until the contracts are signed, they have the press conferences, and both are in the ring playing their national anthems and Michael Buffer says "Let's Get Ready To Rumble".
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29. "This will never happen"
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Michael Buffer says "Let's Get Ready To
>Rumble".
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33. "oh that's right; this is Showtime."
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So that means it'll be Jimmy Lennon, Jr. saying "It's Showtime".
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28. "Warren Coolidge is rolling over in his grave"
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“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

  

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30. "RE: Warren Coolidge is Trolling over in his grave"
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>-------------------------
>“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just
>like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
>Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was
>young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never
>did.”-- Andre B

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"youre frustrated now? in undergrad? reading books all day?,
surrounded by more nubile unattached pussy than you will be in your life?"

  

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31. "Bwhahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa *uurrrrrrrrrrrppppp*!!!!!!"
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*paging* ______ _______e

  

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34. "Wow. Can't Wait (c)"
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I really didn't think this would happen

Props to Floyd for making this fight

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37. "Hell yeh. May be the first PPV I order since....ever lol"
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Always go over to someone's pad but this is one time I might just order in.

---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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38. "Wait. people didn't think this fight was happening?"
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I thought people were just saying he would only fight him at WW. People couldn't see he was using Ghost as the warm up to this fight? I saw this a mile away.

Very dangerous fight for Floyd. Anybody hating on this is on some sucka shit.

  

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39. "Booyah! Props to Floyd for taking this fight and it should be a good one..."
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this dudes ain't no joke.

https://banafrit.com/
http://middlebrainmedia.com/

  

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40. "On Mexican Independence Day Weekend...lol Money May in-fuckin-deed"
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Mexican Independence day falls on Mon. 9/16
so all the celebrations will be goin down
that weekend

perfect opponent and perfect date

Floyd finna whoop ass and
cashout sumthin SERIOUS

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41. "Floyd agreeing to fight at 152 is the first time I can honestly say "
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that he is conducting himself in the tradition of the status that he claims to be at...

First time...

This fight will represent Floyd Mayweather's first real legit challenge to his place as the pound for pound champion....

The first time that there was a young contender on the scene who presented a real challenge...a legit challenge to Floyd in the ring...

I comend him for that...

Let's hope that as Floyd calls it the final 5 fights of his career will be about him actually defending his status in the ring against worthy competition...

until today I have not been able to say that Floyd was doing that..or even willing to do that...

Today he has chosen a different path and for that both his legacy and the sport of Boxing are better for it...

before I give my prediction....which is honestly pretty easy.....I'm gonna make some conjecture about why this happened...

The jig was up...

Floyd was not going to be able to justify the money Showtime is puttin in...or even justify his status as a champion by continuing to go down the path of weak hitting, or past their prime opponents.... The pressure from the outside I'm sure was mounting...and Floyd I'm sure realized that there were no more excuses left that would be accepted even by his most strident followers...

I also want to comend Canelo's camp for holding out for the higher weight...it's not much higher..but it's reasonable....

The reason why Canelo was able to hold out was that he represents the best fight out there for Floyd at this time..

oh and all that Floyd can't put on weight bullshit is just that...bullshit....lol. You'll see on fight night... Floyd Mayweather should be taking fights up to 157 or 160 pounds...His frame can hold the weight..it's not even a lot of weight....Go to the gym and lift weights man..lol. He would be heavily favored against every top notch fight from Canelo up to Ward... No question...

speaking of that.

Now...I predict tht Floyd will win this fight in a decision.... I think his quickness will allow him to avoid Canelo's power punches, and may be quick enough to score some shots as Canelo keeps his hands pretty low... Canelo's best bet would be to focus on slowing Floyd down with body shots..and get his timing together in training to try and catch floyd with left hands followed by straight rights...

it will be closer and more exciting than any of Floyd's fights...really looking forward to it.....

Reminds me of Leonard - Duran I in some ways as far as the build up possibilities....

  

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48. "bwaahahahahahaha"
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>oh and all that Floyd can't put on weight bullshit is just
>that...bullshit....lol. You'll see on fight night... Floyd
>Mayweather should be taking fights up to 157 or 160
>pounds...His frame can hold the weight..it's not even a lot of
>weight....Go to the gym and lift weights man..lol. He would
>be heavily favored against every top notch fight from Canelo
>up to Ward... No question...


I can't wait for Floyd to lose so I don't have to bother
with this dumb shit anymore

If he loses, then we won't need any more of this nonsensical
shit

Floyd Mayweather cannot handle 157 lbs and fight competitively
without HGH and/or steroids. Its as simple as that.

Canelo walks in the mid 170s, at least.

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veritas
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59. "he isn't really "heavily" favored against canelo"
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He would
>be heavily favored against every top notch fight from Canelo
>up to Ward... No question...

this is just nonsense.

even odds against a klitschko?

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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60. "yea probably a ton of financial pressure to make this happen"
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oscar and the showtime ceo were talking about this fight almost immediately
and directly challenged what was coming out of floyds camp
showtime/gbp had enough leverage here to push the compromise i think
i figured they would just do cinco de mayo or something
showtime probably looked at those guerrero numbers and was like 'big baby jesus i can't WAIT' (c) ODB

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Lightfoot
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61. "The double standard here is really too absurd to ignore"
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>oh and all that Floyd can't put on weight bullshit is just
>that...bullshit....lol. You'll see on fight night... Floyd
>Mayweather should be taking fights up to 157 or 160
>pounds...His frame can hold the weight..it's not even a lot of
>weight....Go to the gym and lift weights man..lol. He would
>be heavily favored against every top notch fight from Canelo
>up to Ward... No question...

Your argument is horribly irresponsible. If you criticize Floyd for not taking fights up to 160, then you should criticize Canelo for not taking fights up to 168 or 175. Or really any fighter that doesn't take fights at their max weight. Why should the rules for Floyd be different?

Why is Canelo punking out and fighting guys like Mayweather and Trout instead of fighting Ward? If anything, he should be criticized *more* than Mayweather for fighting at junior middleweight by your standards. He should go to the gym and lift weights, man. For that matter, why should Ward be fighting Mayweather *or* Canelo when he could max out to 210 and fight heavyweights? His frame can take the weight. What a coward.

Now what Floyd did in the Marquez fight (i.e. agree to a lower weight and blatantly disregard the limit) was completely wrong, and he deserved a lot of the shit he got for that. But in that case he was held to the same standard as other fighters--any time a fighter does that they get ripped and rightfully punished.

But arguing that a guy should fight at what they can max out to--and applying different rules to *everybody* else--especially in this dangerous ass sport--is extremely short-sighted. No *athlete* should be given different rules than his peers in competition, *especially* in a sport where his health is on the line.

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64. "^^^TABERNACLE"
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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68. "Honestly, this is why I want Floyd to lose. I can't stand it anymore"
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Warren legitimately said Floyd should move to 160
and fight Andre Ward BEFORE HE said Canelo should
fight ANYONE at 160lbs.

Maybe there's some domestic abuse sensitivity that colors
Floyd opinion. I'd understand that...wish people would admit
it.

Other than that, the opinions are so asinine and dumb
that its made discussing boxing really boring.

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88. "you're confused...."
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>
>Warren legitimately said Floyd should move to 160
>and fight Andre Ward BEFORE HE said Canelo should
>fight ANYONE at 160lbs.
>
>Maybe there's some domestic abuse sensitivity that colors
>Floyd opinion. I'd understand that...wish people would admit
>it.
>
>Other than that, the opinions are so asinine and dumb
>that its made discussing boxing really boring.


I put together a short schedule for Floyd's final fights.... the first fight of that schedule was for him to fight Canelo Alvarez and the final fight was to Fight Andre Ward at a catch weight somewhere around 160 or 157ish....

Floyd is 37 years old or 36...and is on the final 5 fights of his career let him tell it..

I never spoke about my opinion of Floyd's last 5 fights in a comparison of what Canelo should do moving forward, so you saying that I explicitly said the Floyd should move up to 160 before Canelo is just not accurate and misleading....

Canelo is 14 or 15 years younger than floyd...a fact that most of you purposely overlook in these discussions.... Obviously their future would be mapped out differently being that they are of different ages.

Canelo will not be able to stay at a lower weight much longer...so taht and the fact taht Floyd is winding up his career makes this fight pretty important to happen sooner rather than later... After that though... hypotethically if he were to beat Floyd he could possibly fight Manny after that.... and there are some intriguing fights at welter for him down the road with Keith Thurman maybe...but other than that..nothing really appealing at middle for a kid that young. Marquez would be a big money fight ethnic wise...but other than that...there are fights at Jr. Middle like Martirosyan or andrade..... but eventually...again...maybe 3 years from now...Canelo should be entrenched at middle weight.... there are some big fights for him there...and it will allow him to take on guys moving up to middle..and maybe even a big super middleweight fighter like Ward..

  

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Warren Coolidge
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69. "the weight is actually less relevant than are they winnable fights"
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>>oh and all that Floyd can't put on weight bullshit is just
>>that...bullshit....lol. You'll see on fight night... Floyd
>>Mayweather should be taking fights up to 157 or 160
>>pounds...His frame can hold the weight..it's not even a lot
>of
>>weight....Go to the gym and lift weights man..lol. He would
>>be heavily favored against every top notch fight from Canelo
>>up to Ward... No question...
>
>Your argument is horribly irresponsible. If you criticize
>Floyd for not taking fights up to 160, then you should
>criticize Canelo for not taking fights up to 168 or 175. Or
>really any fighter that doesn't take fights at their max
>weight. Why should the rules for Floyd be different?
>
>Why is Canelo punking out and fighting guys like Mayweather
>and Trout instead of fighting Ward? If anything, he should be
>criticized *more* than Mayweather for fighting at junior
>middleweight by your standards. He should go to the gym and
>lift weights, man. For that matter, why should Ward be
>fighting Mayweather *or* Canelo when he could max out to 210
>and fight heavyweights? His frame can take the weight. What
>a coward.
>
>Now what Floyd did in the Marquez fight (i.e. agree to a lower
>weight and blatantly disregard the limit) was completely
>wrong, and he deserved a lot of the shit he got for that. But
>in that case he was held to the same standard as other
>fighters--any time a fighter does that they get ripped and
>rightfully punished.
>
>But arguing that a guy should fight at what they can max out
>to--and applying different rules to *everybody*
>else--especially in this dangerous ass sport--is extremely
>short-sighted. No *athlete* should be given different rules
>than his peers in competition, *especially* in a sport where
>his health is on the line.

you're responding to this as if I'm making a general argument...I'm making a spciefic argument...

Floyd would beat Andre Ward in a fight at 160...158ish.... I have no doubt about that at all....

My only real reference to any general is that I would say that generally fighters of Floyd's ilk have been able to put on small amout of weight effectively and fight up to middleweight and some beyond...particularly against opponents that are not huge punchers....especially if the champion moving up excells at defensive strategy....

folks are acting like this idea and concept is something that folks are just making up out of thin air and putting on floyd, when it's been happening in boxing ever since there were big fights to be had...

I would suggest that you wait until the actual fight and see that there will be no drastic size difference that will impact the fight really...



  

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70. "How would Floyd do against Andre Ward in an underwater chess match?"
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>Floyd would beat Andre Ward in a fight at 160...158ish.... I
>have no doubt about that at all....

To my knowledge Andre Ward has literally never fought at 160. Maybe in Golden Gloves or something as a 15 year old.

You're talking about a guy who won an Olympic Gold at LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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77. "lolololol"
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72. "*facepalm*"
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>you're responding to this as if I'm making a general
>argument...I'm making a spciefic argument...

No I'm responding precisely to the specific argument you are making.


>Floyd would beat Andre Ward in a fight at 160...158ish.... I
>have no doubt about that at all....

a) Your conviction has nothing to do with my point.
b) The degree of your conviction is proof of your short-sightedness.


>My only real reference to any general is that I would say that
>generally fighters of Floyd's ilk have been able to put on
>small amout of weight effectively and fight up to middleweight
>and some beyond...particularly against opponents that are not
>huge punchers....especially if the champion moving up excells
>at defensive strategy....
>
>folks are acting like this idea and concept is something that
>folks are just making up out of thin air and putting on floyd,
>when it's been happening in boxing ever since there were big
>fights to be had...
>
>I would suggest that you wait until the actual fight and see
>that there will be no drastic size difference that will impact
>the fight really...

Please tell me how, in criticizing Floyd for not going up to middleweight, you are *not* asking for him to operate under different rules than Canelo, Ward, and every single other active fighter.

Start your response with "I am not asking Floyd to operate under different rules than Canelo, Ward, and every single other active fighter because..." If you can't, we're done here.

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91. "They are different fighters...different ages..at different points in car..."
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it's idiotic to compare them as if those differing factors do not exist....

Look...I know its been difficult to defend Floyd fighting lesser opponents all these years....but he's now trying to do what champions do by fighting Canelo.... You can drop all the pleas and excuses now...

Obvioudly Floyd has people around him and is in business with people who of the same mindset as Warren Coolidge and have convinced him to stop making excuse...stop trying to sell these weak hitters like Guerrero and Ortiz as real challenges...and fight the best guy out there for him to fight...

That's what I've been saying Floyd should do for years...and now it looks like he's gonna do it...

  

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81. "there's no shame in admitting you have much to learn."
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when it comes to boxing and how weight classes work - you have much to learn.
You simply don't understand it, yet -- but you can if you just listen to the sound
commentary provided in response to your wildly inaccurate analysis.

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96. "Most people that have never had to cut weight for combat don't..."
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He probably can't understand Vex


At this point...unless he's had to sacrifice intake to make weight to subsequently go to dole out and accept punishment...he won't.

Conversely, forcing the body to rise in weight can be just as demanding. For some...efficiency suffers... Most bloated fighters don't do well either...



"Inspectah Deck, he's like...he's like that dude thatta sit back and watch you play yourself and all that right? And see you sit there and know you lyin; and he'll take you to court after that, cuz he the Inspectah."

  

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116. "what an idiot"
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71. "Damn..."
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79. "Thank you for shutting that dumb ass nigga down"
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__________________________
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"youre frustrated now? in undergrad? reading books all day?,
surrounded by more nubile unattached pussy than you will be in your life?"

  

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92. "lol...shut down...these debates are no competition at all..."
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just the fact that people are holding a 37 year old fighter nearing the end of his career to the same standard as a 22 year old fighter who is just coming to his own shows that these people have no intention of releasing Floyd from the pleas they have copped for him...

  

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93. "Fam, you said Floyd should fight around 157-160, just 'lift weights'"
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Take an honest look at that comment before you want to question anyone else's objectivity

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"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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97. "I'm disappointed in WC.... as fellow residents of Kobestan"
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he should know 1st hand the tactic of belittling a guys accomplishments outta hate. Shit, do any of Kobe rings even count? - lol
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100. "Kobe's rings were earned against the best competition.."
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until Floyd signed to fight Canelo..he has avoided the best competition. He chose the low risk high reward route... That worked for him for a long time. Obviously he won't be able to do it any more.

Notice his tweet announcing the fight said he was giving the fans what they wanted.... Not that he was taking on the biggest challenge..or that this was something HE wanted to do...but he's giving in to the fans..

I do not hate Floyd. But I'm not going to give him the props of some of the great pound for pound fighters when he is not taking the path that those great fighters took..

I know too much about the Boxing game to give undeserved props. Props are earned from fighting the best guys out there....no props giving for fighting weak hitters, and guys past their primes, when there are guys in their prime who present a challenge out there to fight..

I've always said...when Floyd stops ducking guys I'll give him his props, and I've done that.

  

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118. "u really dont tho."
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>I know too much about the Boxing game to give undeserved
>props. Props are earned from fighting the best guys out
>there....no props giving for fighting weak hitters, and guys
>past their primes, when there are guys in their prime who
>present a challenge out there to fight..

u might know the history and wiki some facts for u to bring up in arguments

but whatever knowledge u have is negated by the constant dumbass dribble that ur sausage fingers types out regarding floyd

i keep tellin myself ur just trollin and just full of shyt

but the more i see i think u truely believe u this bullshyt

im still holding out that this is just fuk nygga performance art tho

for ur benefit i am


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102. "I said that he should fight Ward at 157ish .... again...he'd beat Ward"
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IMO...

  

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99. "Thank you. A few things...."
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>Your argument is horribly irresponsible. If you criticize
>Floyd for not taking fights up to 160, then you should
>criticize Canelo for not taking fights up to 168 or 175. Or
>really any fighter that doesn't take fights at their max
>weight. Why should the rules for Floyd be different?
>

^^^Heat seeking. I wish I could send applause in the mail.


>Why is Canelo punking out and fighting guys like Mayweather
>and Trout instead of fighting Ward? If anything, he should be
>criticized *more* than Mayweather for fighting at junior
>middleweight by your standards. He should go to the gym and
>lift weights, man. For that matter, why should Ward be
>fighting Mayweather *or* Canelo when he could max out to 210
>and fight heavyweights? His frame can take the weight. What
>a coward.
>

^^^Napalm.

>Now what Floyd did in the Marquez fight (i.e. agree to a lower
>weight and blatantly disregard the limit) was completely
>wrong, and he deserved a lot of the shit he got for that. But
>in that case he was held to the same standard as other
>fighters--any time a fighter does that they get ripped and
>rightfully punished.
>

^^^I don't think it was a blatant disregard of the agreement. Dude broke his ribs and laid off some training. Not saying it grants him a pass...but I doubt that it was intentional like it has been painted.. Still though... he faced dude with essentially freshly healed ribs. He still deals with the injury too. The ribs never really healed right...


>But arguing that a guy should fight at what they can max out
>to--and applying different rules to *everybody*
>else--especially in this dangerous ass sport--is extremely
>short-sighted. No *athlete* should be given different rules
>than his peers in competition, *especially* in a sport where
>his health is on the line.

^^^Watchers rarely understand all the pain and suffering that goes into making twelve 3 minute rounds happen... If weight didn't matter there wouldn't be weight divisions. If folks could move safely and intermittently/arbitrarily among the weight classes...more boxers would simply do it. The money fights aren't necessarily static for any one weight class. He doesn't understand how serious the considerations are for established fighters look to move up or down. Your frustration with son's line of thinking comes from you projecting your good common sense onto another.

You'll be let down every time..


Meanwhile....just relax and wait on Provodnikov being taken to task for not challenging a Klitschko brother...





"Inspectah Deck, he's like...he's like that dude thatta sit back and watch you play yourself and all that right? And see you sit there and know you lyin; and he'll take you to court after that, cuz he the Inspectah."

  

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43. "Excellent....I'm all for a blk dude beating up a messican"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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44. "lol."
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You will surely get that.

  

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45. "after floyd beats this clown i want him to retire."
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thats it.

beat em...convincingly.

make him look silly

collect the 500M you'll make from the fight

(oh he WILL make 50. @ least. if not more)

then.

thats it.

the GOAT.

the haters shall hate

LOL all the way to the bank

  

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46. "He won't. "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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47. "I see floyd getting robbed by judges"
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and a rematch 5-5-14

  

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51. "yeah im actually more worried about this than i should be"
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54. "He's fighting a 22 y/o who will outweigh him by 20lbs on fight night. "
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Canelo *should* beat Floyd fairly easily. Its a
very good super middleweight vs. a great welterweight.

The super middleweight should win with relative ease.

You have every reason to be worried for Floyd.


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65. "i wish there was a way to penalize him for being more than 15 lbs "
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the shits dangerous

im starting to not feel too good about this

  

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67. "They won't. And I'm personally picking Canelo by knockout. "
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Just because of boxing physics.

And Floyd is sluggish when he weights 150lbs.
That weight is a stretch for him. Little guy.


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94. "the fact that he has 4 more fights?"
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iono, you could be on to something.. I doubt Floyd would agree to it but whatever happens in Vegas.... is well shady.. lol


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50. "DOPE props to him and his team for getting this done ...wait"
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OH FOCK IM GONNA BE IN EUROPE THAT WEEKEND
gotta figure some shit out

but no hate whatsoever from me
i said before this match is hater proof
there is NO plea you can cop for this no matter how bad Floyd dominates
Saul is the most dangerous fighter out there and he is in his prime
im good.

win or lose it doesn't change the fact he took a very dangerous fight and it will further cement his place among the all time greats.

hell if he loses and avenges it or if its really close/controversal
can you imagine the hype for a rematch?? it can blow DLH/MW out the water

HUGE props for this

i just hope its not any fuckery i actually am worried that Saul might get a bullshit decision.

  

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52. "Guess the debate on Canelo coming to 147 was a waste of hours"
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Agreed?

I mean Floyd Mayweather Sr. has historically been such a reliable source of information, and "rumors" that online reporters treat as facts almost always prove to be 100% true...but I guess this case was the exception or something.

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53. "um....mayweather beat The Big Show"
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http://youtu.be/CASXye4AZ-o

canelo gonna get whooped

  

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111. "Lol. That cat casually stepped over the top rope."
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Mayweather had to LEAP. LOL.

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55. "Early returns: Floyd should have fought Serigo or GGG instead of Canelo"
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I'm *this* close to being done talking about
boxing at all



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56. "Yeah...saw this post on my FB timeline this morning - and this is "
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from a cat that said Floyd was scared of Canelo after the Guerrero fight:

Kids NOT ready!!!!...he needed ATLEAST 2 more big fights... Money "picking" him ata great time....

  

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57. "Who is really calling from Golovkin or Martinez right now?"
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There's always the loony 0.1%, who are also loud, but 99.9% of boxing fans range from happy to ecstatic with this fight. Even people here who are throwing backhanded compliments at Floyd are not complaining about the fight itself.

Some people will complain about 152, some will point to whatever limitations Canelo still might have, but almost everyone realizes that this is the biggest fight in boxing since De La Hoya retired. Tune out the loud loony 0.1%.

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58. "Where are people saying this??? you puttin extras now..."
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Floyd been duckin challenges for years ... now that he's not ..don't be trying to throw extras on this to cover up for the fact that Floyd fans have accepted...and would accept ANY and all excuses not to fight these type of guys....


folks were comparing him fighting someone at 154..when he has a belt at 154...to him fighting Klitchko or something..lol. Some of the worst plea coppin I've ever seen..

now that the fight is made you can stop with the pleas...

  

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63. "see thats just being retarded "
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66. "Warren said Floyd could easily fight at 160 lbs"
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THAT is retarded


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73. "Floyd in antique battle armor vs. Andre Ward missing a leg"
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WHO YA GOT?!

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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74. "Battle armor? According to Warren, all Floyd has to do is lift weights. "
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75. "did he say how Ward is getting down to (lol) 158?"
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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90. ""
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http://www.craveonline.com/sports/articles/462917-andre-ward-ill-drop-weight-class-to-fight-floyd-mayweather


"Ward stated on the social networks – "Lil Floyd says he spars middleweights. He is the only man I will sacrifice coming to 160 for. He won't take that bait!!!"

  

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76. "Also, Lebron James should wear ankle weights during games"
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It's the only way for him to prove how great he is. Otherwise his legacy will be tainted.

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82. "I have no doubt Bron would beat Prometheus in 3050 AD"
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83. "Lebron ain't shit till he gives the NFL a chance imo"
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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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62. "I am seriously considering copping tix, when they go on sale "
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n/m

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Straddling the Line Between Genius and Insanity

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78. "LOL at the agendas creating a bizarro OKS thread"
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where floyd fans predict a loss and floyd haters predict an easy win. I'm glad everyone agrees that this is the biggest fight in a long time.

  

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84. "Nah, I usually go by boxing physics over intuition"
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Our sense says Floyd because we've never seen him lose

Boxing physics says a very good man weighing 170 lbs
should beat even the best man weighing 150lbs,
especially when the man weighing 150lbs is 36 years
old.

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95. "he's still gotta find Floyd tho"
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with a few atomic bombs or at least a consistent power punch over several rounds..

It's possible but that's not a gimme..
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Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
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85. "A little pre-emptive swipe: Saul Alvarez "I'll drop to 150...""
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"Saul Alvarez: I'll Drop To 150 For Floyd Mayweather Jr."

Posted by: Jhonny Gonzalez on 11/29/2011

http://www.boxingscene.com/saul-alvarez-ill-drop-150-floyd-mayweather-jr--46563


By Jhonny Gonzalez

WBC junior middleweight champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (39-0-1, 29KOs) is willing to drop a few pounds to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26KOs). Mayweather is the World Boxing Council's champion at 147-pounds. Alvarez has no problem facing Mayweather at a catch-weight of 150-pounds.

Last Saturday in Mexico City, Alvarez retained his title with a fifth round technical knockout of former champion Kermit Cintron.

After his win, Alvarez challenged Mayweather on national television. Mayweather is scheduled to fight on May 5th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Alvarez approached Oscar De La Hoya, President of Golden Boy Promotions, and requested a fight with Mayweather.

"It's what I want, the Mayweather fight. That's what we put on the table. I feel more mature and for that I am willing to go down to 150 pounds," said Canelo to Sal Rodriguez. "De la Hoya said he was going to pursue the Mayweather fight . We are ready for it. It's what people want, for me to fight someone like ."

  

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86. "by the way - don't allow ppl to ruin this fight for you."
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this is a legitimate mega-fight, and there is reason to be super excited
for it. Biggest fight that can be made in the sport - and yes - bigger
than Mayweather-Pacquiao.

Is Canelo bigger? yes - but is he *that* much bigger that it's unfair
fighting at a 152 catch-weight? no. Ultimately - the better
fighter will win - factoring in strength, technique, boxing ability,
ring generalship, and overall willpower. Sure, Canelo has some size advantages
on Floyd, but Floyd has speed/experience advantages on Canelo, and Floyd
is much stronger in his 30's than he was in his 20's, particularly in his upper-body.
He actually bullies guys now and stays right in front of them. That's dangerous
against Canelo - but it's not as if this is a David/Goliath match-up. Oscar was
probably bigger than Canelo is right now when he fought Floyd. Difference is,
Canelo is a prime young lion whereas Oscar was a tad expired.

Is Floyd catching Canelo at a strategic and "unfair" time because
Canelo's not ready? no. It's actually perfect timing. Canelo is coming
off a very tough fight against the champion who dethroned Cotto at
154, and Floyd is fighting Canelo at the peak of his ascent. Why do
I say that? Because Canelo has been fighting since he was a pre-teen,
and turned pro extremely early with already 40+ fights under his belt
against solid competition. The Trout victory earned his right to a Mayweather
bout and Canelo is fresh, young, undefeated, and at is a monstrous draw.
It's a *dangerous* time to be fighting Canelo, not vice versa.

Boxing fans will always try and complain about something in an effort
to preemptively discredit a fight - but out of all the fights to complain about -
this is absolutely not one of it.

Stop crying and enjoy the epic match-making we are privileged to watch.

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105. "your boxing G is unfukwittable (FOH w/ your KANG shit tho), but"
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>for it. Biggest fight that can be made in the sport - and yes
>- bigger
>than Mayweather-Pacquiao.
>
I disagree. Despite how many of us believed Floyd would have busted that ass, going into it, that fight would have been the biggest draw ever.

  

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110. "RE: your boxing G is unfukwittable (FOH w/ your KANG shit tho), but"
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>
>>for it. Biggest fight that can be made in the sport - and
>yes
>>- bigger
>>than Mayweather-Pacquiao.
>>
>I disagree. Despite how many of us believed Floyd would have
>busted that ass, going into it, that fight would have been the
>biggest draw ever.

Yea i agree w/ that. What I was saying was that right now - this is the
biggest fight in boxing, bigger than Floyd-Pac, as of today. 3 years ago when
Pac-May was ripe, it was definitely the biggest and bigger than this, but that
ship has since sailed.

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124. "Do you think "supercards" will ever happen"
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Meaning throwing another big fight and a semi-big on this card and getting more people excited to buy it.

Bradley/Marquez was supposed to the 14th too, why not both of them on the same card?

Even something like this and a Kessler/Froch type fight that might have been on free TV.

I understand different promotions for these examples but that was to just throw out some ideas.

Will this ever work? I know the answer is probably no because of money.

  

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125. "Whats the motivation tho??"
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If Bradley/Marquez can sniff a mill why wouldnt they go it alone?

Double the PPV revenue.

No one is looking to pay $120 to see both at the same time.

I know that may sound strange but $60 here, $60 there (while its the same amount of money) is easier to swallow I would think.

http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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134. "Bring in the more casual fan"
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I am a relativity big fan of boxing, but only buy a PPV maybe once every two years. If they threw two or three fights on there that I want to see, I am definitely going to get it. Otherwise, I'll watch on HBO the week after.

That means the very casual fan isn't buying anything and you really only have the die-hards watching and buying now.

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141. "I dont think it would double revenue so there is no need to"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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129. "no, because of $ and ego"
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most elite fighters want their own stage as the headliner, and
most promoters don't want to split revenue from PPV/Gate money.
That alone prevents the super-cards from happening. That said,
I do think that cards can be much improved - not by matching
super fights together, but by really producing exciting undercards
with top rising stars. For example, I thought the Quillin-Guerrero
undercard to Garcia/Judah was a tremendously matched undercard
that was both relevant and exciting.


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133. "Yeah that was my thought too"
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I just think it would be great to see and bring back some excitement to the sport. Might get the more casual viewer to buy if there are two/three strong fights on the card.

I agree with the undercards too. You make them stronger with intriguing matchups and more people might buy. I think a Broner/Malignaggi undercard to a big fight would be great.

Like you said - money and ego - two things that the boxing world will never let go of.

  

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87. "Best MadMaker of All-Time? Bron v Floyd"
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it's sad haters can't appreciate the mastery we are witnessing by these 2 atheletes

they're so far beyond the next best

MFers invent new reasons to be mad

it's funny and sad at the same time

STFU and be sports fans

YA BISH!

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104. "It's not even a competition"
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>it's sad haters can't appreciate the mastery we are
>witnessing by these 2 atheletes
>
>they're so far beyond the next best
>
>MFers invent new reasons to be mad
>
>it's funny and sad at the same time
>
>STFU and be sports fans
>
>YA BISH!

LeBron drew some ire and all but people have calmed down A LOT with that.

There are a host of black niggas that fucking HATE FLOYD with a PASSION.

  

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132. "I really don't get the Floyd hate..... lol"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
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89. "http://blacksportsonline.com/index/29bo8wm.gif"
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98. "I'm watching this one"
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103. "lol...You Floyd fans really need to get over yourself...you are picking"
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Floyd to LOSE against Canelo just so your wack agenda gets proven true...lolol..

that's a very non-G tactic.... y'all gonna have to give your money team passes back.... hand it to Ray J at the door and don't be eyeballin Beiber Fever or else he gonna put hands on you...lolol..


never heard of fans of ANYONE hoping the object of their rider-ism loses just to prove them to be right about something..

OE didn't you say that the Lesson had weridos and the sports board didnt??? see what I'm sayin...lol.

  

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106. "who da hell is picking floyd to lose?! LOL"
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dude...cmon

floyd is gonna tie this young man in KNOTS just like he does EVERYONE else

unless floyd loses his incredible defense & counter punching skills

or canelo manages to land a good shot that puts floyd to sleep

this shit is gonna play out just like every other floyd fight

its been shown floyd can handle brawlers

tacticians is who MIGHT give him some problems

floyd in yet ANOTHER UD

  

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108. "OE and a couple others...peep up..."
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109. "I picked John Ruiz to beat Roy Jones Jr. "
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I rarely go against the rules of boxing physics

Part of it is because I've been a fighter and I
understand how this kind of thing works.

When you fight someone who outweighs you by 20
lbs, it is very, very, very, difficult to beat them
unless you are in a class above them.

Floyd is much better than Canelo; he'll also be
old and heavy. Two of this closest fights ever
have been been when he's weighed 150lbs, when
his opponent has weighed in well above 154.

Its boxing physics.

Unlike you, my feelings aren't involved. I just watch
and study.

You make shit up and cry.



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112. "lolol.. the Ruiz Jones fight should have shown you physics ain't shit"
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>
>
>I rarely go against the rules of boxing physics
>
>Part of it is because I've been a fighter and I
>understand how this kind of thing works.
>
>When you fight someone who outweighs you by 20
>lbs, it is very, very, very, difficult to beat them
>unless you are in a class above them.


it's all about how is the better fighter...and how styles match up with each other.

that has always been the case when we're talking about big time prize fighting.... When we're talking about the best of the best...

styles ....heart..... ring savy.....power....focus...all of those things are much more important than numbers on the scale...

much more.


>
>Floyd is much better than Canelo; he'll also be
>old and heavy. Two of this closest fights ever
>have been been when he's weighed 150lbs, when
>his opponent has weighed in well above 154.
>
>Its boxing physics.


tough fights??? when has Floyd been in a tough fight. He hasn't had any. He hasn't been challenged...he has not had to come back from adversity in any of his fights. Not in any substantial manner.

primarily because he has not fought guys who present that type of challenge....

but now he will...hopefully he will not go out like Roy Jones who fought inferrior fighters for years...but in his case becaue he really didn't have many other options....then all of the sudden when Tarver got his shit together..he put tips on Roy. Fighting weak opponents may be the easy way out..but you won't stay sharp.

>
>Unlike you, my feelings aren't involved. I just watch
>and study.
>
>You make shit up and cry.

Honestly OE...you are showing how ill equipped you are to have a real discussion with me about all of this because your only response is to claim that I am mad or I hate floyd or I'm crying....Dude grow the fukk up...Warren Coolidge is a grown as man, and if you disagree with what is being said..you should do so as a grown ass man and stop tossing all this childish "you mad" bullshit out...

seems like you're the one catching feeling mr. former boxer...I'm speaking on facts...I'm speaking on the reality of the boxing game.... All this weight disparity bullshit is just that...bullshit... If you a G...you fight Gs....if you not...you don't. If you can fool sheep by NOT fighting Gs and still getting paid, you do that until you can't no more..

it's that simple.

  

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113. "Boxing physics is more than just total weight. "
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It takes study.

I'll explain it to you sometime.



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117. "aren't you paying attention????"
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http://goo.gl/odgSv


>
>It takes study.
>
>I'll explain it to you sometime.
>
>
>
>----------------------------
>
>
>
>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
>
>
>
>
>"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
>
>(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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107. "looking forward to it"
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Floyd will win this one but Canelo should be good enough to make it interesting

  

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114. "and no re-hydration clause....wow...g'head Floyd (swipe)"
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http://www.boxingnews24.com/2013/05/schaefer-no-rehydration-limit-for-mayweather-canelo/

By Dan Ambrose: The September 14th fight between WBA/WBC junior middleweight champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez (42-0-1, 30 KO’s) and unbeaten Floyd Mayweather Jr. (44-0, 26 KO’s) will have no rehydration clause in the contract for their catch-weight fight at 152 pounds, according to Steve Kim.

Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer is saying that the rehydration clause wasn’t included. What this means, of course, is that Canelo can rehydrate as much as much as he wants.

If Canelo wants to rehydrate to 172 lbs. like he did in his last fight in April against Austin Trout, then there’s nothing

I’m respecting Mayweather a ton for letting Canelo take the fight without a clause because the chances are Mayweather is going to be out-weighed by 26-30 pounds for this fight. Mayweather stepped inside the ring against Robert “The Ghost” Guerrero at 146 lbs. on May 4th of this month, and that’s after rehydrating. Actually didn’t need to rehydrate because he walks around in the mid-140s during training.

In contrast, Canelo made the 154 lb. weight for his fight against Trout last month and then quickly rehydrated 18 pounds to 172 lbs. If Canelo and Mayweather step inside the ring on September 14th weighing what they did in their last fights, then Canelo will have a 26 lb. weight advantage over Mayweather.

This is great because Mayweather gets to prove that he can beat a full middleweight on September 14th because that’s pretty much what Canelo is – a middleweight who rehydrates to light heavyweight. I know he fights in the junior middleweight class, but he’s essentially a middleweight that works incredibly hard to lose close to 20 lbs. of water weight.

It’s going to be a little harder for Canelo in this fight because he’s going to have to lose an extra two pounds to get down to 152 to make the catch-weight. One wonders whether Canelo will just blow it off and take the penalty and come in at 154. That’s my guess. The fight is officially a catch-weight, but there’s nothing keeping Canelo from coming in at 154 and then paying the fine with all the money he gets.

I think Canelo would rather be strong and have a chance to win than worrying about the money he’ll lose by coming over the catch-weight limit. Knowing Mayweather, he probably didn’t make a big fuss about creating a huge weight penalty that would be a true deterrent for Canelo to come at that right weight.

Without the huge penalty for weight, I can see Canelo coming in at 154. He won’t want to come in heavier than that because he doesn’t want to lose his two titles, but he likely will choose to ignore the catch-weight limit.

  

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115. "LOL...a 26 lb weight advantage....Canelo should take this easy"
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A 15 year age advantage, 26 lb weight advantage

Every body shot should jolt Floyd and stop his
breathing

And any head shot should be several times harder
than any punch Floyd has ever taken

This should be easy work for Canelo or any talented
fighter



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119. "nigga stop"
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austin trout had canelo scared to let his hands go in those middle rounds with his basic ass movement
and canelo looked winded as fuck late in the fight
if floyd sticks to the plan he should win every round
this is pathetic smh
nobody on here is saying this is a wack fight
and mexicans/filipinos done hyped canelo up too much to try to renig after the L
no need for this

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121. "He's 14 years younger, weighs 26 lbs more "
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That's all I need to hear, sorry

You can't shit on Canelo NOW

He's talented, young and a huge compared to his
opponent

He should cut off the ring and beat that old nigga
Floyd up

EVERY punch he lands will be FAR MORE powerful than
anything Floyd ever been hit by


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122. "OE setting up the mean pull counter"
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126. "You should not lose to a man 36 y/o that you outweigh by 25 lbs. "
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That's pretty much all I'm saying.

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128. "I agree w/ the boxing physics analysis, however, "
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Floyd is an anomaly. Oscar had the same size advantages
and couldn't do anything with it. Cotto had advantages
in strength and was effective in periods, but ultimately
Floyd adjusted and he was actually the one landing
the heavier shots that did damage.

Canelo is a diff. beast, indeed, and if he fights a smart
fight I do think he should be able to win, but to my
Floyd once again looked better than ever in his last
fight w/ Ghost, and I fully expect him to be in prime
form once again....but of course the question is - how
long can Floyd fight at this elite of a level - particularly
against a guy w/ clear advantages in size, strength,
and youth?

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135. "Yeah. I had 2-hour convo about this fight last night. "
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Here is what it boils down to:

- If you are 26lbs heavier than another man, and that is
YOUR NATURAL WEIGHT, the advantage is is a lot bigger than
people think. This isn't blow up weight. Its not added muscle.

This is Canelo's body.

What does this mean in boxing terms?

There is *no* way that Floyd can hurt Canelo at all.

And Floyd's precision punching is effective because,
contrary to popular belief (because he doesn't KO a
lot of fighters), Floyd's punches hard, snaps your
rib cage and head back.

Canelo's bone and muscle renders this irreelvant. He will
not, and cannot be hurt, at all.

He'll walk through the punches.

In addition, even Canelo's lightest body shots will
rattle Floyd. Even if he doesn't land in high volume,
that is a too much for a man to handle over the course
of 12 rounds.

Here's the bottom line:

Floyd (A+ class) can beat guys much larger; but
can he defeat another A/A+ class guy who is also
much larger?

Surely he can defeat an A- or a B (Arturo Gatti outweighed
him by 20lbs) who outweights him significantly.

But an A class?

I'm not so sure.

Floyd's two closes fights since Jose Luis Castillo,
in my opinion, have been against Oscar De La Hoya and
Miguel Cotto.

What do they have in common?

a) Both A class

b) Both weighed in near or above 160lbs

c) Floyd had to wear 150 lbs for both.


In Canelo, he's getting:

a) A-class

b) A man who will weigh 170+

c) Floyd will also have to add 5 lbs just to
survive the blows (Floyd will come in around
151)

Not a good scenario for Floyd.

>Floyd is an anomaly. Oscar had the same size advantages
>and couldn't do anything with it.

Oscar started his career as a lightweight. He definitely
had the frame to be a junior middle, but Oscar's prime
took place between 147 and 154. Canelo's prime will take
place at 160 or 168 (if not higher; Roy Jones Jr was a
154lb fighter at Canelo's age, went on to be one of the
great light heavys ever).

Canelo is an absolute bull.


>Cotto had advantages
>in strength and was effective in periods, but ultimately
>Floyd adjusted and he was actually the one landing
>the heavier shots that did damage.

Similar -- Cotto is probably slightly larger than Floyd
physically, and whether he's actually stronger than
Floyd is a matter of debate.

>Canelo is a diff. beast, indeed, and if he fights a smart
>fight I do think he should be able to win, but to my
>Floyd once again looked better than ever in his last
>fight w/ Ghost, and I fully expect him to be in prime
>form once again....but of course the question is - how
>long can Floyd fight at this elite of a level - particularly
>against a guy w/ clear advantages in size, strength,
>and youth?

Its going to be VERY interesting.

  

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131. "neither one of them are gonna even try to make this weight lol "
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120. "Floyd speaking on fighting SERGIO MARTINEZ (swipe)"
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yeah...Coolidge just be making stuff up...lolol...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1095560-floyd-mayweather-says-he-could-jump-to-middleweight-to-fight-sergio-martinez

this is from 2012 just before the Cotto fight

"I can't rule out the future, you know down the line I may want to make that jump and fight at middleweight, you just never know. I just want to give the fans exciting fights and if Martinez is the guy at that time then we shall see, but right now my main focus is on Miguel Cotto."


  

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AlBundy
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123. "what does this prove?"
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136. "people are acting like the concept of Floyd moving up to middle"
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is something far fetched....outrageous..... and basiclly something I'm just making up to "hate" on floyd..

when asked directly about moving up to middle weight...Floyd didn't give anything close to the responses that folks are tossing out here as plea cops about physics..he didn't call it outrageous.... in fact he said it was something he might do.

this shows that the people who are dismissing that idea honestly do not know what they are talking about.

  

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137. "Floyd moving to middle is completely outrageous."
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Roy Jones said he would have fought
Tyson for 100 million at heavyweight, which also would
have been outrageous.

(Jones was smart enough to move back down after he beat
Ruiz...his tacit admission that he had no business
being there in the first place)

Floyd is a former super feather, whose best weight
was somewhere between lightweight and junior
welterweight. He walks around at 145-150 (146 post hydration
vs. Guerrero). That means he could easily still fight,
competitively, at 135 if he really wanted to. He's a tiny
guy.

So him moving to middleweight is completely outrageous.

Like most things, he might do it for the right money,
though.

Sergio isn't the draw to make it happen; neither is
Andre Ward. Canelo is, which is why Floyd is doing it.
And Chaves Jr. is an Arum guy, which rules that out.

Ward can barely sell out a stadium in Oakland and for
whatever reason the Latin audience hasn't adopted Sergio
Martinez

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Warren Coolidge
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139. "Floyd's comment about moving to middle was not the same as"
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>Roy Jones said he would have fought
>Tyson for 100 million at heavyweight, which also would
>have been outrageous.

Roy talking about fighting Tyson for 100 million and you know it.


The fact of the matter is that the idea of him moving up is somethin HE HIMSELF has and is entertaining without all the extra plea copping you guys are making for him. The exagerations are coming from you guys copping pleas....Floyd knows what it takes to achieve greatness, and now...finally he's pursuing that. Y'all can stop the plea coppin now..lol.

  

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138. "Why would Floyd move up, when Maravilla already said he'd move"
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down...

http://www.boxingscene.com/sergio-martinez-ill-fight-pacquiao-150-2012--43963

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2065321/Sergio-Martinez-blasts-Manny-Pacquiao-wants-Floyd-Mayweather-fight.html

to somewhere in the 150-154 range. Why would Floyd move up...

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140. "ask Floyd...he said he was open to it...n/m"
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127. "meh, he consistently contradicts himself"
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there's the infamous "don't put words in my mouth" quote/video evidence
and recently the whole catch weight L
wouldn't put too much stock in anything these dudes say.
half their job is marketing and drumming up interest

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