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85SOUTH
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Tue May-28-13 08:47 AM

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"Dual discussion: MVPG as 3rd best--- Mike and Mike waffling"


  

          

Jalen Rose tweeted MVPG (bka T5T) is the 3rd best player in the league. Mike and Mike give a begrudging "yeah can't really argue with that".
Minutes later they get an email from some listener who says he's just barely 3rd best PG in the West. They immediately play the who would you pick to start a team game and say 1. CPflea 2. Russy 3. MVPG and recant on what they'd just agreed to.

I'm not witchin, just pointing out their indecisiveness. I'm not surprised at them waffling and reacting YET again because they were calling GS with the upset after game 2, and Memph to the Finals the minute the WCF was set.

Now we as fans are emotional and reactionary, it's who we are. Can these ni99as stop being fans for a minute and look at thing with objectivity? goodness. GS did not have the experience and durability, and Memph did not have the scoring ability. Plus this is not the same team they beat in '11.

BTW, MVPG IS the top PG right today. Russy almost has too much desire to show other PG's up head to head and rarely passes up a shot. CPflea, in my book, is just a notch below MVPG. All the tools, but bad judgment on occasion.

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It's a valid argument, the guy who is playing the best RIGHT TODAY...
May 28th 2013
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that's your L for expecting any kind of consistency from talking heads
May 28th 2013
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those dudes on tv are just like you and I except they have a dream job
May 28th 2013
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took a listen to the Lebatard rants today...
May 29th 2013
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I mean T5T's goodness is like Jerry Rice's speed
May 29th 2013
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Well to be fair...if they don't say "CP3" he'll punch them in the nuts
May 29th 2013
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Mike and Mike should NEVER, EVER discuss basketball.
May 29th 2013
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^^^
May 29th 2013
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Pretty Much
May 29th 2013
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We don't agree on much, but YES. I've been saying that. YES.
May 30th 2013
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baseball? Not sure they even know who Miguel Cabrera is
May 31st 2013
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agreed...and this is from someone who genuinely enjoys the show..
May 31st 2013
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The bottom line is none of these guys could make a living
May 29th 2013
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ThaTruth
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Tue May-28-13 09:57 AM

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1. "It's a valid argument, the guy who is playing the best RIGHT TODAY..."
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and the guy you would want to start a team with can be 2 different people.

Parker is playing near flawlessly for the Spurs in their system and for what they need their PG to do but is Parker flat out the most talented PG in the league? I don't think so. If you swap Parker and CP3 the Spurs might be even better and the Clippers would be the same or possibly worse. Playing on the same team for the same coach with some of the same guys for 10+ years definitely gives you an advantage.

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southphillyman
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Tue May-28-13 10:12 AM

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2. "that's your L for expecting any kind of consistency from talking heads"
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all it takes is a week or two of someone playing good ball for these dudes to completely flip flop on something
they just adjust to whatever is currently going on
honestly i put dudes like mike&mike and simmons only a notch above skip bayless
basically just as wrong as he is for the most part
but i give them credit for being less outrageous and sometimes admitting they didn't know what they were talking about

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Cenario
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Tue May-28-13 10:20 AM

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3. "those dudes on tv are just like you and I except they have a dream job"
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The former players are a notch up because they have more perspective but these regular talking dudes are just fans with more access.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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85SOUTH
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Wed May-29-13 03:52 PM

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4. "took a listen to the Lebatard rants today..."
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it reminded me of how incredibly reactionary tv heads were to the early struggles of the Heatz. Chuck, Screamin A, Wilbon, Skip, etc were talking like the collection of players that made up the Heat were equivalent to the Bobcats. Dudes were just incredibly loud and wrong.

I'd forgotten how dumb they all sounded.

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ConcreteCharlie
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Wed May-29-13 04:10 PM

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5. "I mean T5T's goodness is like Jerry Rice's speed"
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Yeah, in a vacuum there were guys faster than Rice, but nobody ever caught him.

There are guys who maybe ostensibly can do more than T5T (Paul) or have more God-given gifts (Russy) but are these dudes really outplaying him?

He ate Paul's lunch during the year. Russy got him last year, he is a guy that I think could have it all if he had things click emotionally. Too out of control, but then again at times he uses that visceral type of game to his advantage.

T5T is always cool, calm, collected ... but that makes him no less explosive when the situation calls for it.

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6. "Well to be fair...if they don't say "CP3" he'll punch them in the nuts"
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Cold Truth
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Wed May-29-13 04:19 PM

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7. "Mike and Mike should NEVER, EVER discuss basketball. "
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They need to stick to baseball and football and STFU on basketball.

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weaponry
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Wed May-29-13 04:31 PM

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8. "^^^"
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RexLongfellow
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Wed May-29-13 07:48 PM

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9. "Pretty Much"
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They overreact over every game
I remember a couple of years ago when they said Rondo was the 2nd best player in the league

  

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85SOUTH
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Thu May-30-13 08:37 AM

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11. "We don't agree on much, but YES. I've been saying that. YES. "
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Discussing Bball always seems to give Greeny a reason to say someone is "markedly" better than someone else. He just likes that word.

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12. "baseball? Not sure they even know who Miguel Cabrera is"
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can't take them seriously on anything

  

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Fri May-31-13 09:43 AM

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13. "agreed...and this is from someone who genuinely enjoys the show.."
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and listens everyday. Greenie ALWAYS overreacts and "falls in love", as he puts it, with the hottest guy (pause).

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J_Stew
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Wed May-29-13 09:09 PM

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10. "The bottom line is none of these guys could make a living"
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as a sports bettor. Most of them have no fucking idea what they are talking about.

  

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