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"Official Paul George vs. Melo Matchup Agenda Spectacular..."


  

          


I believe Paul George plays a brand of basketball more conducive to winning than Melo. I've had eight years to watch Melo not be the player I thought he'd be in the L. He once had a beautiful floor game and now he's obsessed with scoring.

I don't wanna hear no excuses about how Melo don't have a Hibbert or West or whatever y'all gonna say when George outplays Melo.

So, you in or out? Say it now or get ignored when the series starts.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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lol
Apr 22nd 2013
1
you were here first
May 20th 2013
655
BILL SIMMONS! HIRE THIS MUHPHUCKA PLEAZE!
Apr 22nd 2013
2
Ba'd get Grantland sued and disbanded within a week
Apr 22nd 2013
10
      He's like Mush from A Bronx Tale. I don't want him LOOKin
Apr 22nd 2013
11
I second this. and also,
Apr 22nd 2013
3
what about 36 on 45% shooting like in game 1?
Apr 22nd 2013
4
      RE: what about 36 on 45% shooting like in 1 game
Apr 22nd 2013
7
lmao gtfoh
Apr 22nd 2013
5
So only scoring, no d, doesn't pass = bad basketball? That's Ky-razy!
Apr 22nd 2013
6
these over-analytical types...smh
Apr 22nd 2013
9
NJJ still tryna guess the password...you have no argument
Apr 22nd 2013
12
      Work on agenda consistency & not hopping on bandwagons of the versatile
Apr 22nd 2013
13
           my paul george v. melo agenda was set up months ago
Apr 22nd 2013
14
                Dude, I care less either way about this agenda.
Apr 22nd 2013
16
                     RE: Dude, I care less either way about this agenda.
Apr 22nd 2013
17
                     D-Rose the most overrated W/L in OKS history
Apr 22nd 2013
18
                     Don't care about D-Rose either.
Apr 22nd 2013
20
                     Rose had/has a better team from day 1
Apr 22nd 2013
23
                          Yet you're the won hitting the ESPN lottery machine looking for hope
Apr 22nd 2013
26
                               you damn right i am.
Apr 22nd 2013
35
                                    Don't care. Nene might retire. Whoever they get Great Wall...
Apr 22nd 2013
47
                                         great
Apr 22nd 2013
57
                     RE: D-Rose the most overrated W/L in OKS history
Apr 22nd 2013
22
                          well, rose don't have KD...
Apr 22nd 2013
24
                               Cuz everybody knows people listen to Bucher & Wilbon
Apr 22nd 2013
27
                               RE: well, rose don't have KD...
Apr 22nd 2013
33
                                    man, i ain't making this about rose
Apr 22nd 2013
39
                                         RE: man, i ain't making this about rose
Apr 22nd 2013
45
                                              actually, i ain't bring him up...i responded
Apr 22nd 2013
61
                                              Kyrie:Winning Rose:Nutrition
May 03rd 2013
239
                                                   go make a kyrie thread
May 03rd 2013
240
                     lol
Apr 22nd 2013
28
the "wins" metric agrees with you.
Apr 22nd 2013
8
2003-2012 supports it
Apr 22nd 2013
15
is PG ready to to be Rated R or NC-17 tho?
Apr 22nd 2013
25
      GITCHA GENE SHALIT FACE ASS
Apr 22nd 2013
81
I want in - even if he doesn't outplay Melo, he'll at least cancel
Apr 22nd 2013
19
This argument is always fantastic:
Apr 22nd 2013
29
      for real
Apr 22nd 2013
99
           melo didn't come close to scoring 48...'cause PG shut him down
May 21st 2013
681
this will be pretty easy to judge, right? Whoever wins rnd 2
Apr 22nd 2013
21
for agenda purposes, sure. in real life its not that simple
Apr 22nd 2013
31
LOL Knicks fans enjoy this:
Apr 22nd 2013
30
what in the fuck? he dunkin a childrens football into old lady drawz
Apr 22nd 2013
75
Whattaya know. Melo's really, really good
Apr 22nd 2013
32
^The advanced statistics people will ignore this post.
Apr 22nd 2013
34
      say it with me now:
Apr 22nd 2013
37
      top 10 in ts%, ortg...we use those right?
Apr 22nd 2013
41
      Exactly. People just pick which stats to ignore when discussing Melo
Apr 22nd 2013
43
      how come they don't talk about that tov% son????
Apr 22nd 2013
44
      my melo hate is based on 'cuse shit
Apr 22nd 2013
48
      This select group can best be described as STARS
Apr 22nd 2013
49
      no one says he is not a 'star' but he's not a star among them
Apr 22nd 2013
62
      ^Noooppe! Not as good as Bron or KD = a relevant agenda?
Apr 22nd 2013
64
           well there are other players on the list, too, but not as his position
Apr 22nd 2013
74
                you'd rather have George then melo on the knicks or indiana?
Apr 22nd 2013
76
                i would
Apr 22nd 2013
78
                obviously lol
Apr 22nd 2013
80
                indiana yes, knicks i'd have to think about it, not much pop
Apr 23rd 2013
175
                     interesting...ok.
Apr 23rd 2013
177
                he plays the 4 now though...
Apr 23rd 2013
164
                     he still plays the wing and guards a ton of wings
May 05th 2013
251
      i disagree with that claim of what defines a "star"
Apr 22nd 2013
66
           Gotta respect your mad in this post. Solid display.
Apr 22nd 2013
67
           I'd also like to congratulate Glen Davis
Apr 22nd 2013
70
           what stars got left out by the criteria used above?
Apr 22nd 2013
68
                see my response to O_E
Apr 22nd 2013
71
                     oh ok...i scanned the list and no one stood out but thats a valid
Apr 22nd 2013
77
      Going 0-3 against him will do that, I guess?
Apr 22nd 2013
97
           relax. its not that deep.
Apr 23rd 2013
108
                Waiters is already more than decent....accept it
Apr 23rd 2013
113
                     no he isn't. he makes melo look multidimensional
Apr 23rd 2013
162
                          15 ppg as a rookie, improved FG% greatly throughout the year
Apr 23rd 2013
192
                               improved from shit to bad
Apr 23rd 2013
198
                                    Wow, you hate Cuse so much you can't even be honest about stats, LOL
Apr 23rd 2013
208
                                         sorry, i was skimming basketball reference
Apr 25th 2013
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                                              Nope!
Apr 25th 2013
218
                                                   Lilliard also scored more and was the primary ball handler
Apr 25th 2013
219
                                                        James Harden shot 40% his rookie year
Apr 25th 2013
220
                                                             http://splicd.com/Ertv4KJgWyI/8/10
Apr 25th 2013
221
                                                             exception that proves the rule
Apr 25th 2013
222
                                                                  College careers?
Apr 25th 2013
223
                                                                       did he score 20+? no.
Apr 25th 2013
224
                                                                            Noted
Apr 25th 2013
225
                                                                            best players play >25 minutes
Apr 25th 2013
226
                                                                            Not always, as that example clearly shows
Apr 25th 2013
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                                                                            they came in as PGs if they did
Apr 25th 2013
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                                                                            or they just came in a year before your arbitrary starting point
Apr 26th 2013
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                                                                            *shrug* 2000 is a reasonable point
Apr 26th 2013
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                                                                            it's a reasonably arbitrary point
Apr 26th 2013
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                                                                            You claimed there's never been a shooting guard ever at first
Apr 26th 2013
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                                                                            he's still not good. *shrug*
May 06th 2013
261
                                                                            Yeah he is....and he got better
May 07th 2013
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                                                                            cmon, look at those comparisons. LOOK AT THEM
May 07th 2013
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                                                                            you got issues, fam
May 07th 2013
310
                                                                            yep, a 107 is comparable to a 119 in o-rating
May 13th 2013
360
                                                                            Yep, because 119 was the only other rating listed
May 13th 2013
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                                                                            it was the unbelievably laughable one
May 13th 2013
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                                                                            Whatever, point was he played good ball for a nice stretch before
May 13th 2013
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                                                                            starting as a PG *matters*
May 06th 2013
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                                                                            PGs and SGs shoot pretty much the same %'s overall, so not really
May 15th 2013
445
                                                                            you came back to this tangent 9 days later to add that?
May 19th 2013
475
                                                                            you mean after you had come back here 10 days later to cop that plea?
May 20th 2013
552
                                                                            yeah, PG in college = PG in the pros
May 20th 2013
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                                                                            College is different than the pros? Do tell!
May 21st 2013
680
                                                                            *response*
May 23rd 2013
695
                                                                            *reply*
May 28th 2013
708
      RE: top 10 in ts%, ortg...we use those right?
Apr 22nd 2013
50
           yeah you can't look at any stat/stats in a bubble. I laugh at anyone
Apr 22nd 2013
51
      lol, y'all mf's LOVED P.E.R. when it was propping up Kevin Love
Apr 22nd 2013
52
           niggas stay talking about "efficiency" as the be all and end all
Apr 22nd 2013
54
           Right, cats praying to Hollinger and shit.
Apr 22nd 2013
55
           find me in any post ever saying PER was a good stat
Apr 22nd 2013
65
      shitting on advanced stats=sure sign u mad
May 05th 2013
252
Yeah, this is residual mad from 'Melo getting a patch.
Apr 22nd 2013
36
true.
Apr 22nd 2013
38
not really...this is about me keepin myself entertained and relevant
Apr 22nd 2013
40
      Nah, no beef, but we already been through you and Carmelo
Apr 22nd 2013
42
           RE: Nah, no beef, but we already been through you and Carmelo
Apr 22nd 2013
46
           whoa whoa..carmelo anthony is not a fucking first ballot hofer..yet
Apr 22nd 2013
53
           If Ray Allen is, and Reggie Miller is...then Melo is. Sorry, guy.
Apr 22nd 2013
56
                Ehh, that comparison sells Ray short a bit.
Apr 22nd 2013
60
                     NCAA title too = utter and complete shoe-in
Apr 22nd 2013
69
                          +2 gold medals
Apr 22nd 2013
79
                               never getting to the nba finals?????
Apr 23rd 2013
128
                                    Is Steve Nash a HOF'er?
Apr 23rd 2013
191
                                         .
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                         Oh... oh my..
Apr 23rd 2013
196
                                         Two NBA MVPs, the strongest predictor of induction
May 06th 2013
256
                                         You know I knew that, right?
May 07th 2013
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                                              i have little doubt you already did and i've repeated it millions of tim...
May 13th 2013
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                                         Carmelo Anthony has 2 mvps?
May 06th 2013
258
           well, when you get some proof of that, you let me now
Apr 22nd 2013
58
                No feelings whatsoever. Just erudite Bison wisdom
Apr 22nd 2013
63
                     here's why i hate on melo...
Apr 22nd 2013
72
                          the conversation is changing, i see...because they scared
Apr 23rd 2013
147
                          ^^^^
Apr 23rd 2013
148
                          Indiana fired Isiah too though
Apr 23rd 2013
163
                               nah...indy media treated him fairly. bob kravitz da gawd is my guy
Apr 23rd 2013
165
                                    ok yeah I remember you giving kravitz credit for that before
Apr 23rd 2013
168
                                         he treated isiah fairly and he fried bird when no one else would
Apr 23rd 2013
173
                                              Praise be to Allah for that nigga.
Apr 23rd 2013
189
I'm in 100%, I have Pacers winning series and as far as ...
Apr 22nd 2013
59
can't really commit to it but will be entertained & hoping you're right
Apr 22nd 2013
73
DAMN!!! Dan Shaughnessy's core collapses, explodes on Melo neck
Apr 22nd 2013
82
dan throwing fistfuls of wildfire all over blackwater bay.
Apr 22nd 2013
83
madder than his niece when she first heard the Bobby Alomar AIDS rumor
Apr 22nd 2013
84
^^^^^^cotdamn!!!! - lol I dare anyone to disagree w/one word
Apr 22nd 2013
89
Damn that was a volcanic explosion of lava
May 06th 2013
266
i feel like melo deserves a chance to play this one out
Apr 22nd 2013
85
Melo does go chuck mode a lot but it ain't always his fault
Apr 22nd 2013
86
i don't buy that pg thing. he's had some years with stability issues.
Apr 22nd 2013
87
      I honestly don't know about the Denver years, I just know the ny years
Apr 22nd 2013
88
           cmon
Apr 22nd 2013
93
                Who? Kidd and prig who don't shoot and Felton? Lol
Apr 22nd 2013
94
                     so what's the point, then?
Apr 22nd 2013
95
                          A pg that can run an offense and a legit 2nd scorer
Apr 22nd 2013
96
                               the sixth man of the year isn't a legit second scorer?
Apr 22nd 2013
98
                                    Woody and Carmelo saved JR's career.
Apr 22nd 2013
100
                                    Lmao @first using Felton and now jr to boost your argument.
Apr 23rd 2013
102
                                         He once said that Kidd was the Knicks' 2nd best player after Chandler
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                         lol, you know my argument.
Apr 23rd 2013
105
                                              yeah its terrible.
Apr 23rd 2013
106
                                              are you only talking about the playoffs?
Apr 23rd 2013
109
                                                   yeah people tout his playoff record against him and its dumb
Apr 23rd 2013
110
                                              BwhahahahH!!! You just got caught OPENLY LYING bwhahaha
Apr 23rd 2013
107
                                                   predict how O_E backtracks from this fuck up here:
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                   jive
Apr 23rd 2013
112
                                                   by just not coming back obviously
Apr 23rd 2013
115
                                                   L
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                   I'll cop pleas like this:
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                        took it like a g. if everyone manned up like this posts wouldn't
Apr 23rd 2013
118
                                                   playing loose with the facts eh?
Apr 23rd 2013
114
                                                   Nah, Kidd has played off the ball. You aren't watching.
Apr 23rd 2013
117
                                                   lol ok, ive seen this script before
Apr 23rd 2013
122
                                                   that's not really disagreeing with what oe is saying though
Apr 23rd 2013
119
                                                        jason kidd's contributions on offense are as a distributor - T or F?
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                             T and T i suppose
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                             but thats deceptive to the point of dishonesty
Apr 23rd 2013
129
                                                                  but this isn't true either
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                                       Exactly. He doesn't shoot very much. Doens't make him the point guard.
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                                       it doesnt matter tho
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                                            lol yeah it does...ask guinny.
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                                            Wrong. You've gotten off track and its sorta sad.
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                                                 now i see the problem...you've assigned Guinny's argument to me
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                                                 Yeah, you're in retreat, backtracking and shitting on Guiness.
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                                                 LMAO
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                                                 Cool, let's try again: Is Jason Kidd the point guard on the Knicks?
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                                                 i never said he was the fucking point guard and u know this lol
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                                                 Cool, so you concede that you're horrifyingly wrong.
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                                                 again, when u dont want to talk about it, it means only one thing
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                             Is Jason Kidd the point guard on the Knicks? T or F?
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                                  you're clinging to a nominal title b/c ur point is on life support
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                                       Nominal title? LOL. As in, "who is the point guard?"
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                   Where does this go in the OE pantheon of wrongness?
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                        Its up there with "Jason Kidd is the 2nd Best Knick next to Chandler."
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                        lolol
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                        RE: Where does this go in the OE pantheon of wrongness?
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                             basically.
Apr 23rd 2013
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my only issue is w/ the hypocrisy.
Apr 22nd 2013
90
melo only does one thing.
Apr 22nd 2013
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One thing = be the 3rd most efficient player in the league.
Apr 22nd 2013
92
      i hate to be your fact checker
Apr 23rd 2013
206
LOOOOL @ Dan Shaughnessy getting shook on the Michael Kay Show
Apr 22nd 2013
101
Lol what a clown...dumb niggas posting and consigning his links Lmmfao
Apr 23rd 2013
103
lmao
Apr 23rd 2013
133
      loooooooooooooool @ "I havent seen him enough"
Apr 23rd 2013
204
Does this necessarily make George better?
Apr 23rd 2013
138
yes
Apr 23rd 2013
139
lol and what happens when Melo advances?
Apr 23rd 2013
142
i say i was wrong and pick up my KD/Russ/Blake/Battier agendas
Apr 23rd 2013
146
      this fantasy land u live in of negligible L's and harped on W's...
Apr 23rd 2013
150
           sorry you feel that way, bruh
Apr 23rd 2013
153
Mike Conley plays a brand of bball more conducive to winning than Russy
Apr 23rd 2013
166
      no, he don't.
Apr 23rd 2013
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      yeah, he do.
Apr 23rd 2013
169
           dogg, OKC wouldn't be close to the same team without Russ
Apr 23rd 2013
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                I think you missed my point
Apr 23rd 2013
174
                     nah, dogg...russ does pass the ball and plays D like madman
Apr 23rd 2013
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                          Russ plays dumb & out of control too much
Apr 23rd 2013
183
                          melo contributes ONLY by gunning...like most LOSERS
Apr 23rd 2013
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                               are you only reading the subject lines and not the body of my posts?
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                    i'm not gettin your point
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                         you said "more conducive" in the original post
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                              RE: you said "more conducive" in the original post
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                              Boy, I got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals.
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                              even if it were true in the case of russy/conley, why the leap in logic?
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                   what leap in logic?
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                        conley/russy =/= melo/george
Apr 23rd 2013
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                                                             NOPE! CONDUCIVE!
May 08th 2013
332
                          hahahaha @ he can't help being crazy,..
Apr 23rd 2013
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                               That pic is priceless....
May 05th 2013
245
      oh...i get it now. Good point.
Apr 23rd 2013
170
      RE: Mike Conley plays a brand of bball more conducive to winning than Ru...
Apr 23rd 2013
178
      you mean it's nice coming across something making you feel better
Apr 23rd 2013
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           RE: you mean it's nice coming across something making you feel better
Apr 23rd 2013
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                melo been in the league nearly a decade longer, dogg
Apr 23rd 2013
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                     RE: melo been in the league nearly a decade longer, dogg
Apr 23rd 2013
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                          my whole methodology is based on specific skillsets...
Apr 23rd 2013
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      nah, okc has a better record and better playoff success with russ being ...
Apr 23rd 2013
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           I think you missed my point
Apr 23rd 2013
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                i didn't miss your point. it was wrong.
Apr 23rd 2013
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                     yeah you did. and your own point is wrong.
Apr 23rd 2013
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                          this is incredibly simple
Apr 23rd 2013
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                               yes it is actually
Apr 24th 2013
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okp sports: where it is debatable whether basketball is about winning.
Apr 23rd 2013
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      lol
Apr 23rd 2013
143
      larry o'brien trophy? I don't even know what the fuck that is.
Apr 23rd 2013
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It's amazing....
Apr 23rd 2013
144
lol i can respect this.
Apr 23rd 2013
155
STOP CHANGING THE CONVERSATION!!! MAKE THE ECFs!!!
Apr 23rd 2013
151
Yeah, we're busy convincing half the board that he's top 2 on his team
Apr 23rd 2013
154
      it derailed with cenario's pleas about a PG...
Apr 23rd 2013
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      my bad..that response was more to other things being said
Apr 23rd 2013
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      type it again, maybe it will come true!
Apr 23rd 2013
159
           no one said that, ever.
Apr 26th 2013
230
an inefficient and horrible offensive player who can't dribble or shoot
Apr 23rd 2013
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george isn't inefficient.
Apr 26th 2013
234
huh?
May 06th 2013
267
http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/03/22/73/863957/0/960x595.jpg
Apr 23rd 2013
185
LOL!!
Apr 23rd 2013
193
y'all worried yet? paul waiting....he so spry
Apr 25th 2013
215
no.
Apr 25th 2013
216
      do you believe it now, trinity?
May 15th 2013
407
BUYING 200 MOAR SHARES OF GEORGE!! PLZ TELL ME I CAN BUY MOAR!!!!
Apr 25th 2013
229
http://www.pictureshack.us/images/49027_td.gif
Apr 26th 2013
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TEAM GEORGE ALL DAY EVERY DAY ON THIS ONE.
Apr 26th 2013
236
Winter (AKA Anger) is coming
May 03rd 2013
238
It's here
May 05th 2013
241
george just needs to not shoot, way melo is playing, for you to win
May 05th 2013
246
This is going to be GOOD
May 05th 2013
242
Is this the game post?
May 05th 2013
243
LOL@NYK fans ghost on gameday! HAHAHA, no post=SCURRED!
May 05th 2013
244
Born Ready is the best player on this floor today = OE wins
May 05th 2013
247
Bwahaha BOTH Carmelo and George were TERRIBLE.
May 05th 2013
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RE: Bwahaha BOTH Carmelo and George were TERRIBLE.
May 05th 2013
249
Lol
May 05th 2013
250
Melo got D'd up by the long-limbed high IQ prodigy.
May 06th 2013
253
he sadly got d'd up by bass the last round as well
May 06th 2013
254
that's because all these years of yo-yo dieting catching up to him
May 06th 2013
270
He routinely gets out muscled
May 07th 2013
281
Bwahaha BORN READY was BETTER than George game 1
May 06th 2013
255
      So this is a weird two pronged agenda where you hedge your bet?
May 06th 2013
257
      Diversify ya bonds (c) Wu Tang Financial
May 06th 2013
259
      Noooppee! Started my agenda BEFORE this series. CRY you sissy
May 06th 2013
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           lol
May 06th 2013
264
           uh, what? that wasnt even pertinent but it's also pretty glame
May 06th 2013
265
      .
May 06th 2013
262
if melo stayed in shape year-round like champions do, he'd finish more
May 06th 2013
268
lmao
May 06th 2013
269
Go ahead. MAKE A JOKE ABOUT HIS WEIGHT, nigga.
May 06th 2013
271
it's actually kind of weird how not strong at finishing Caramello is
May 06th 2013
272
Plus considering he grew up watching Bernard King when he was -7 yrs old
May 06th 2013
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      I blame his daddy's shitty Puerto Rican genes
May 07th 2013
278
           I was going to refute this...
May 07th 2013
287
^^^third eye seeing, 6th chakra activating
May 06th 2013
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you see what happens when KD and Bron approach
May 06th 2013
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      nigga never lost his baby weight
May 07th 2013
276
           dogg, you can still see it in his face...dude is 29
May 07th 2013
277
                Yeah, bad genes. Great skills, though.
May 07th 2013
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                     even if that were true (it's not), any comparison to Bron ended in 2005
May 07th 2013
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                          how this nigga known for scoring..and just won his first scoring title?
May 07th 2013
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                          He has the same number as Jerry West and Rick Barry
May 07th 2013
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                               Rick Barry isn't even in the top 50. Antwan Jamison is number 39.
May 07th 2013
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                               and lebron has been a more prolific scorer than melo
May 07th 2013
291
                                    You know nothing about Rick Barry. Log off, fam.
May 07th 2013
293
                                         I know you gonna be waiting forever for melo to win
May 08th 2013
329
                          Yeah, that's when Lebron's IQ caught up with his genes
May 07th 2013
285
                               ITEM! Teen prodigies Larry Bird and Magic Johnson quit basketball!
May 07th 2013
289
                                    Saying Carmelo Anthony is not Bird or Magic is hardly a slight
May 07th 2013
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                                         right...he's not bron, bird or magic. he still top 10 and maybe 5.
May 07th 2013
294
                                         top 10 or top 5 what?
May 07th 2013
296
                                              SF/PF today?
May 07th 2013
302
                                                   players on the knicks
May 07th 2013
305
                                         settling for what he IS, based on the potential shown in 2003 is a plea ...
May 07th 2013
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                                              Nigga. He's a first ballot hall of famer.
May 07th 2013
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                                                   Not by defnition, but by detail.
May 07th 2013
298
                                                   http://tinyurl.com/cjo449n
May 07th 2013
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                                                        lol
May 07th 2013
300
                                                   *saves this for the next time you talk about AI's career*
May 07th 2013
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                                                        AI had the worst falloff the history of the NBA, though.
May 07th 2013
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                                                             LOL he was playing regularly in Detroit and in decline
May 08th 2013
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                                                             bwahaha. every guy you named was a substance abuser
May 08th 2013
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                                                                  well, actually, he almost certainly was but OK
May 12th 2013
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                                                             hmm, well considering Melo hasn't even gotten to where AI was
May 08th 2013
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                                                                  this dude thinks webber is a 1st ballot and DC didnt underachieve
May 15th 2013
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                                                                       Webber is easily 1st ballot and Carmelo ruined Iverson's legacy.
May 19th 2013
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                                                                            wanna bet on webber??? b/w AI's legacy was already concrete
Feb 16th 2015
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he's actually suprisingly explosive for a chubby dude, but yeah
May 07th 2013
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he really did foul him on that one
May 07th 2013
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      was that the mush in the face one? i don't know, those are
May 07th 2013
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           http://i.imgur.com/259rg6l.jpeg
May 07th 2013
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                smh..honestly the fouls wouldn't bother me so much if i was
May 07th 2013
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                he hit his arm with his face...the arm was there first
May 07th 2013
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                     the arm went down a little
May 07th 2013
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http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2594007/melodunk.gif
May 08th 2013
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Carmelo with one arm willing his team to a W.
May 07th 2013
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Melo: 20 rebounds, 2 turnovers. George: 9 rebounds, 11 turnovers
May 07th 2013
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George is an uber athletic and talented supporting cast member.
May 07th 2013
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Yup...he could be scottie
May 07th 2013
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Nah, Scottie was a successful Alpha Dog
May 07th 2013
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He's more like the H-town version of T-Mac
May 08th 2013
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      You mean "injured T-Mac." And even he was an Alpha Dog.
May 08th 2013
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Nah, George is official. He's still coming into his own.
May 08th 2013
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      Not an Alpha Dog. He's very, very, very, good though.
May 08th 2013
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No one denies he goes after the ball rebounding
May 08th 2013
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they don't credit it for him either....."one dimensional"
May 08th 2013
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      RE: they don't credit it for him either....."one dimensional"
May 10th 2013
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Paul plays much better @ Home vs. Road
May 08th 2013
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see y'all next game
May 07th 2013
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lol
May 08th 2013
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      lol
May 08th 2013
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      we'll digest that eclair once melo eats it. until then, see ya next game...
May 08th 2013
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      notwithstanding my emotional state, this shit is retarded
May 08th 2013
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      let us not defame eclairs here.
May 10th 2013
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      it's funny because he's fat.
May 14th 2013
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      Yup nm.
May 10th 2013
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May 11th 2013
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goddamn ba, I'm trying not to party prematurely but the anticipation
May 12th 2013
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http://oi40.tinypic.com/2vkhzxe.jpg
May 15th 2013
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4-17 and 5 turnovers
May 12th 2013
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he had other stats...but, you mad and i understand
May 12th 2013
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      Not mad, I like George
May 12th 2013
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           NIGGA! the fuck did melo do? 6-16 with 4 TOs...george outplayed that guy
May 12th 2013
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                Keep his team from getting blown off the court?
May 12th 2013
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                     and without paul's floor game, the pacers not even in the playoffs
May 12th 2013
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                     they werent blown off the court???
May 12th 2013
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                     didn't Paul George check Melo for most of the 2nd half?
May 12th 2013
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                          man it's gonna take years to access the damage from all that lava
May 13th 2013
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                          Lava like they'd be aight with Q or Novak out there?
May 13th 2013
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                               Knowledge, Wisdom & Understanding Brings Long Life & Health
May 14th 2013
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                               put it this way, they're no better as a result of the trade
May 20th 2013
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                          Knicks wins - 23, 33, 23, 32, 29 in 5 years prior to Melo
May 13th 2013
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                          now that u tried to get cute, I gotta make u feel THE WRATH OF THE MATH
May 14th 2013
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                               DAT DATA
May 14th 2013
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                               I already did the data.....funny how you ignore that
May 14th 2013
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                                    Melo's made the playoffs every year? damn that's crazy
May 14th 2013
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                                    Yeah, he has
May 14th 2013
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                                         no one cares.
May 14th 2013
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                                         http://i49.tinypic.com/14wpqf.gif
May 14th 2013
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                                    RE: I already did the data.....funny how you ignore that
May 14th 2013
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                                         RE: I already did the data.....funny how you ignore that
May 14th 2013
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                                              RE: I already did the data.....funny how you ignore that
May 14th 2013
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                          wait, this sounds familiar...
May 14th 2013
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How the hell you average under 2 ast a game in the playoffs?
May 12th 2013
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      black hole
May 12th 2013
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      LOL, this shit is dumb
May 12th 2013
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      nigga...you have got to stop this plea coppin...
May 12th 2013
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      I guess you just ignored the word "consistent"?
May 12th 2013
350
      http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/25-dunk-fail-di...
May 12th 2013
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      dude even kobe getting 4 dimes a game MINIMUM, ai was like 6-8
May 12th 2013
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           yea as a Kobe fan I'm not even an assists guy...but even I'm PE'ing Melo
May 12th 2013
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           shit, even in Kobe's gifted 6-for-24 Game 7 he grabbed 15 boards
May 12th 2013
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           Melo had 11 boards in game 1, 9 in game 2
May 13th 2013
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                7 is his usual, for a 4 that's low, for a 3 it's above average
May 13th 2013
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                     Next time he grabs 10+, I look forward to y'all crediting him for it
May 13th 2013
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                          i'll not GAF like always but if you care that much, search it
May 13th 2013
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                          next time Melo gets 15 boards or 7 dimes in a playoff game
May 14th 2013
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                               I bet its before Iverson get's gainful employment
May 20th 2013
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           right, i picked kobe because he had some REALLY bad teammates
May 13th 2013
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                I never said he's not a gunner
May 13th 2013
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                     RE: I never said he's not a gunner
May 13th 2013
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                     I agree with most of that
May 14th 2013
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                     lol there was an article in today's daily news that melo taking only 16
May 13th 2013
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                          so?
May 13th 2013
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           Hell I bet 137 year old Pierce could get 4 ast per game w/ NY
May 13th 2013
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                and that team woulda lost in the 1st round with those nice assist nmbers
May 13th 2013
372
                     Shall we compare P double's postseason success with Ant'ny's?
May 13th 2013
376
                          a 137 year old paul pierce? sure...let's.
May 13th 2013
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                               OK, 136 year Paul Pierce was in the ECF, which means ...
May 14th 2013
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                                    what? Lach's point was what an old pierce would do and its
May 15th 2013
420
                                    he wasnt old last year? and you cysing that series win? for real?
May 15th 2013
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                                         dude what? He's making a comparison about old ass pierce
May 15th 2013
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                                              this is getting convoluted but i stick by what i said
May 15th 2013
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                                    The East was horrible in the Pierce-Walker era
May 15th 2013
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                                         how strong the east RIGHT TODAY? two teams! melo's aint one of em
May 19th 2013
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                                              Stronger than the early 00s East
May 19th 2013
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                                                   1) just barely if at all and 2) lmao, is that a serious question?
May 19th 2013
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      Your boy Kevin "Black Hole" McHale did it a few times
May 15th 2013
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           Yup, he got killed for passing out of a double at the end of a loss
May 15th 2013
451
BTW, Ba: Durant's shittiness exonerates 'Melo of all blame
May 14th 2013
392
My Nigga, you gotta pull yourself together...
May 14th 2013
393
So how many franchise players are there in the league? one?
May 14th 2013
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      melo ain't among 'em. that's all that matters as far as you're concerned...
May 14th 2013
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      Don't duck, how many?
May 14th 2013
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           i made a whole thread about it. go find it. george was one. melo wasn't.
May 14th 2013
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                Paul George is a franchise player; Carmelo and Durant aren't?
May 15th 2013
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                     re-read. melo ain't. durant is on his way out.
May 15th 2013
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                          So by next week: Paul George is a franchise player, Durant ain't.
May 15th 2013
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                          next week for KD? i gave melo an extra FOUR YEARS? We'll see on KD
May 15th 2013
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                               Umm Carmelo went to the WC finals with NO other star ALREADY
May 15th 2013
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                                    the pacers offense runs through george. why you being mad?
May 15th 2013
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                                    Nah, George is a DOPE role playing utility wing player.
May 15th 2013
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                                         nigga, tyson chandler, jr smith, shump ain't GARBAGE...you mad.
May 15th 2013
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                                         damn. ba spittin fuego.
May 15th 2013
419
                                         funny to me how fast the knicks roster became "doo doo" this year
May 15th 2013
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                                              right...like we not a couple weeks removed from them cysing JR.
May 15th 2013
450
                                    He mentioned Shumpert as a scorer up above, lol
May 15th 2013
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                          LOL - he's been better this post season than he was last year
May 15th 2013
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                               who cares if he's a little less NOT GOOD ENOUGH this year?
May 15th 2013
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                                    please answer this question without deflecting:
May 15th 2013
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                                         russell westbrook
May 15th 2013
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                                              http://www.egotripland.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/tumblr_miafknnt8g1...
May 15th 2013
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                                              oh, you might as well be the nigga in the first Cube movie...
May 15th 2013
424
                                                   nothing i can say to get out of what?
May 15th 2013
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                                                   what you in right now.
May 15th 2013
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                                                        http://www.egotripland.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/tumblr_miafknnt8g1...
May 15th 2013
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                                                   You Killing Yourself Homey
May 15th 2013
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                                                        HE WINNING! fuck the numbers! which are good, btw.
May 15th 2013
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                                                             So is Tayshaun Prince
May 15th 2013
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                                              that sounds like a Memphis sweep to me
May 15th 2013
425
                                                   all that is theory...we see what's happening without him
May 15th 2013
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                                                        the subject is theory, the body is fact
May 15th 2013
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                                                             how is it fact with so many variables at play?
May 15th 2013
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      Not very many, I mean it depends how you define it but ...
May 14th 2013
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CP3 would have been a better example of franchise players underachieving...
May 15th 2013
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      it's to the point I'm questioning him as the best PG
May 15th 2013
443
Roy Hibbert is clearly the Pacers best player this postseason
May 15th 2013
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yes, but george is helpin and to the victor go the spoils
May 15th 2013
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      hard to argue with that
May 15th 2013
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      no...roy helpin...paul been the best player all series
May 15th 2013
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           eh, apple/orange comparison, either way, they've both been good
May 15th 2013
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If nothing else
May 15th 2013
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George 18-14-7 2stls 2 blks vs Melo-24-9-1 assist
May 15th 2013
417
George 6-19 (chucking?), 5 TO's, Melo 9-23, 3 TOs
May 15th 2013
454
Melo and JR gonna have nightmares about Paul George's defense
May 15th 2013
428
what a delightful read. thank you for sharing that.
May 15th 2013
439
i can hear the sizzle of slow burning souls
May 15th 2013
441
apparently, Roy Hibbert don't exist. FOH.
May 19th 2013
459
      You Fire Marshall Bill'ing the shit out these Melo threads. Just stop!
May 19th 2013
462
there's franchise and fake franchise...4th quarter reveals all
May 18th 2013
455
nice W on ur mantle here
May 19th 2013
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no it ain't. He put 39 on them, most on George.
May 19th 2013
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      He put up 2 when it mattered...because George shut his ass down.
May 19th 2013
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      According to the above article, he was 4-16 with George on him
May 19th 2013
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      PG was on him THE WHOLE 4th quarter...that's all that matters
May 19th 2013
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      most on george? dude, no, he doesnt get the best player/worse team
May 19th 2013
468
There's Born Ready and then there's role playing Paul George
May 19th 2013
457
      LMAO!!!! young, you mad as fuck.
May 19th 2013
460
           Watch Bron put Hibbert on Brandon Knight status this series
May 19th 2013
465
           Ba. Honest opinion: your narrative just isn't catching on.
May 19th 2013
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                i have no interest in going down the rabbit hole with you
May 19th 2013
467
                man these cats talk about those nuggs like they 200 years old
May 19th 2013
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                     I dunno why the rule of Franchise Player Frying escapes Melo fans...
May 19th 2013
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                          eh, i'm not about frying durant, he could have kept it tighter, OK
May 19th 2013
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                          Ba: your main supporters are Iverstanian refugees.
May 19th 2013
491
                               Dogg, I don't care who happens to agree with me on Melo.
May 19th 2013
493
                                    Again: Says a lot about your agenda
May 19th 2013
                                         IF he can't dunk over him, learn how to draw a foul or finish lefty
May 19th 2013
530
                so youre either derek mckey or tmac now?
May 19th 2013
469
                this is the team Melo wanted to be on
May 19th 2013
480
                     o if Amare doesn't regress to horrid, this team is a contender.
May 19th 2013
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                          if he part of MOVE? has no access to technology?
May 19th 2013
490
                          they woulda lost with him...just like last year.
May 19th 2013
495
                          This Knicks team + Phoenix Amare is a serious contender.
May 19th 2013
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                               They didn't get Phoenix Amare. We all knew he was fucked up.
May 19th 2013
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                                    Haha. Who knew he was THIS fucked up?
May 19th 2013
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                                         everyone
May 19th 2013
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                                              exactly
May 19th 2013
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                                              except that phx was offering amare 4 years for close to 80mil
May 20th 2013
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                                                   were his knees insured? did you think, maybe, that was a bad sign?
May 21st 2013
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                                              Yeah, we done resorted to lying so cool
May 19th 2013
545
                          funny, because everyone else/insurance industry did
May 19th 2013
502
LOOOOOOL @ anybody that thinks this is a W
May 19th 2013
473
No one fucking cares. His arm coulda been OFF. He gettin fried.
May 19th 2013
474
loose non shooting shoulder=pleas pleas pleas! (c) James Brown
May 19th 2013
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pleas
May 19th 2013
484
the problem with Melo in one quote
May 19th 2013
478
Who outplayed who? Stay focused
May 19th 2013
479
Melo lost. Flamed out in tight games with PG on him.
May 19th 2013
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Not staying focused^^^
May 19th 2013
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      I am focused. Head-to-head PG made more winning plays on BOTH ends
May 19th 2013
487
           b-b-b-b-ut, he had more points! he didn't turn it over as often!
May 19th 2013
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           George was a bad shooting, bad decision making chucker most of the serie...
May 19th 2013
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                George counterbalances his poor shooting with dimes and TOs with DEFENSE
May 19th 2013
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                     LOL --- so PG is an intangible king, with his non Alpha dog self
May 19th 2013
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                          PG averaged 20ppg, 7rpg and 5apg, 2spg vs. the Knicks
May 19th 2013
515
Man, Let These Cats Cook
May 19th 2013
483
On this day, most GMs and coaches would rather build around PG than Melo
May 19th 2013
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      If You Honestly Think That
May 19th 2013
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           Get your damn head outta 2010...They'd take George over him, dogg
May 19th 2013
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           it's pretty much a fact, actually
May 19th 2013
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                Paul 23 and improving RAPIDLY
May 19th 2013
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                no doubt, has a huge ceiling, but already better than melo
May 22nd 2013
691
                RE: it's pretty much a fact, actually
May 19th 2013
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                     Most GMs would.
May 19th 2013
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doesn't matter. this shit was bout melo carrying his team
May 19th 2013
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      it was a pretty fireproof agenda plus it panned out above average
May 19th 2013
518
Who outplayed who? Stay focused
May 19th 2013
482
major W for Basa
May 19th 2013
489
Thanks, dogg.
May 19th 2013
497
For the listeners out there: Carmelo ruined Iverson's life and legacy
May 19th 2013
494
Iverson? WHO CARES!
May 19th 2013
498
Nah, it matter. 78% of Carmelo hate in here is from Iverstania.
May 19th 2013
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      Hadn't notced. Didn't know Guinness even liked AI. And I don't care
May 19th 2013
507
           Iverson actually introduced lots of hipsters to basketball
May 19th 2013
509
                No, see, Paul is the CENTERPIECE...everyone knows this...
May 19th 2013
511
                     Ahhhh so "Centerpiece" = "not quite a franchise player"
May 19th 2013
527
                          I've already called him a franchise player. Get it together, dogg.
May 19th 2013
529
*shrugs* no, but if it helps you sleep at night, go with it
May 19th 2013
505
I hate Melo because he is a disappointing loser, AI in Denver was ...
May 19th 2013
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Nah, you hate him because he started the fall of Iverson
May 19th 2013
550
GOD DAMN!!!!!!!
May 20th 2013
564
Whats that got to do with Melo not winning shit ever?
May 19th 2013
520
      Melo is a NCAA Champion. If anything we should be talking about CP3
May 19th 2013
521
           oh, i agree. cp3 at the top of the fry 'em rankings, melo 2
May 19th 2013
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           Iverson ruined US FIBA ball. Carmelo saved US FIBA ball.
May 19th 2013
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                he ain't save the knicks...that's all that matters RIGHT NOW
May 19th 2013
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                     Except he did nm.
May 19th 2013
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                          He saved y'all...how?
May 19th 2013
535
                               When was the last time we were better than this?
May 19th 2013
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                                    LMAO...okay, I guess. Congrats.
May 19th 2013
540
                                         hoes have a warped idea of salvation. we know this.
May 19th 2013
541
                                              Iverson ruined US FIBA ball; Nuggets got better the instant he left.
May 19th 2013
542
                                                   did you just give me a smiley face, bitch?
May 20th 2013
664
You're an idiot if you think George is better at basketball than Melo.
May 19th 2013
522
Your vote counts
May 19th 2013
524
Hibbert miraculously the engine on a conference finalist
May 19th 2013
525
1) george is really nothing at all like Manu 2) who ran who?
May 19th 2013
539
Its like people didn't see Carmelo burning George the ENTIRE GAME
May 19th 2013
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the stats and shot chart don't show that.
May 19th 2013
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      LOL -- Carmelo was burning the shit out of George YESTERDAY
May 19th 2013
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           Why didn't it happen in the FOURTH QUARTER?
May 19th 2013
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                Because HIBBERT was pushing his wig back at the RIM.
May 20th 2013
554
                     once block...he missed 3 weak ass contested fadeaways...
May 20th 2013
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Why he ain't run him up and down in the 4th quarter.
May 19th 2013
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      LOL he had 39 points on >50% fg%, so when u say "locked up"...
May 20th 2013
599
           what he have in the 4th ALL SERIES, especially the closer? LOL that shit...
May 20th 2013
610
well done, ba.... the agenda council approves.
May 19th 2013
526
*takes bow*
May 19th 2013
536
And who drafted George again?
May 20th 2013
553
Nigga, I will take it
May 20th 2013
555
      Coach K made Carmelo co-Captain, lauded his unselfishness
May 20th 2013
556
      Yeah, I cysed that back in 2008, when I cared about Melo
May 20th 2013
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      pyrrhic victory dude
May 20th 2013
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Soooo IND>NY = George>Melo?? Someone want to explain that logic?
May 20th 2013
559
George had more assists.
May 20th 2013
560
Explain why Melo was terrible in the 4th against PG?
May 20th 2013
561
Maybe he was tired
May 20th 2013
571
      i don't have to answer ANYTHING...PG led his team all series.
May 20th 2013
606
Black hole vs team player
May 20th 2013
589
is Melo the most one-dimensional superstar in NBA history?
May 20th 2013
563
to his credit he played good defense for the 1st month of the season
May 20th 2013
567
      better late than never I guess
May 20th 2013
604
eh,.. I think you get a 1/2 point for this one..
May 20th 2013
565
His team needed him to average 35+. HE SHOULD'VE!!!
May 20th 2013
566
Could PG put up those numbers?
May 20th 2013
572
      could he do what his team needed? was it also difficult?
May 20th 2013
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           people want to credit paul george for guarding the scoring champion
May 20th 2013
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                nobody switchin NOBODY, nigga. Play to your fuckin seed.
May 20th 2013
611
                     lol i'll take that as a no...thanks.
May 20th 2013
616
                          exactly. i'm not doing the OKS deflection thing in this thread
May 20th 2013
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                               cool we agree.
May 20th 2013
643
                                    if you gotta pluck sarcastic asides to feel better, by all means...have ...
May 20th 2013
645
                                         damn you confusing as hell son.
May 20th 2013
647
                                              don't know that...that's why they play the games
May 20th 2013
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^^^^^^^^^^^DAMN!!!
May 20th 2013
568
I agree with mostly everything...except Melo d'd west pretty well
May 20th 2013
569
Melo's defense on West was better than George's on Carmelo.
May 20th 2013
570
      and Shump's defense on George was better than George's on Carmelo.
May 20th 2013
573
           But he found ways to win. and West SCORED in the 4th
May 20th 2013
574
           You mean, Born Ready and Hibbert found ways for them to win.
May 20th 2013
575
           Then them dudes shoulda had 20,7,5&2 for the SERIES
May 20th 2013
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                Nah, they were busying with intangibles and leading their team
May 20th 2013
579
                but they all shot better than 39, 26, 60 and 4+ turnovers a game
May 20th 2013
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                     Don't matter. If there were a series MVP, PG would be it.
May 20th 2013
583
                          lol no. Pacers don't have Hibbert Knicks win this series.
May 20th 2013
584
                               Ouch. This is factual and not debatable.
May 20th 2013
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                               Take away PG and neither of them are effective
May 20th 2013
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                                    lol.. cause George is the only one that can throw entry passes on indy?
May 20th 2013
588
                                         except in the 4th....the 4th quarter HAPPENED...get over it, dogg
May 20th 2013
594
                                              Yeah, Hibbert protected the rim, Born Ready saved Indiana
May 20th 2013
602
                                                   Good for them. If only Melo had done his job as well as they did.
May 20th 2013
607
                                                        'Melo played better defense than George did, helped his team
May 20th 2013
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                                                             4-2 (2-seed led by "top 5" guy losing early) <----them stats support me.
May 20th 2013
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           More like Larry Bird found ways to win...West shoulda been
May 20th 2013
576
           Damn...Basa's agenda is backfiring...'Melo's defense was stellar
May 20th 2013
578
           youre not doing a great job making this up as you go along
May 20th 2013
593
                He's doing his ninja smoke bomb shit, jumping from topic to topic
May 20th 2013
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                Stats are undeniable. You're just a shitty breath loser
May 20th 2013
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                     that's not true, you're not bothering to check this stuff even
May 20th 2013
659
                          the floor is O.E.'s feelings
May 20th 2013
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           Either Melo gets credit for guarded West or NOT
May 20th 2013
581
                i don't want it both ways...Melo Should get credit for locking down
May 20th 2013
582
                     Right. It's Tyson fault Melo flamed out in close games
May 20th 2013
585
                     He missed shots...if you switch melo and george, do the pacers
May 20th 2013
592
                          YOU GOTDAMN RIGHT HE MISSED SHOTS!!!
May 20th 2013
596
                               Born Ready stole the ball in the 4th quarter, not George.
May 20th 2013
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                                    I don't care if Sir Mix-A-Lot stole it...I know who threw it away.
May 20th 2013
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                                         Bwahaha. BORN READY WON THE GAME. Not standing around George
May 20th 2013
614
                                              Melo LOST the game. That's what matters. That's what being talked about....
May 20th 2013
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                                                   'Melo was locking down David West, keeping his team competitive
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                                                        they were the 2-seed, led by a "top 5" guy..."competitive"?
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                                                             LOL -- They were a 2-seed BECAUSE of the Top 5 guy, Einstein
May 20th 2013
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                                                                  And Indy booted they ass because their young superstar LED them
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                                                                       Yup. Hibbert and Born Ready.
May 20th 2013
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                     let's not cheapen the phrase "locking down"
May 20th 2013
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                     David west reg season 17.1 ppg on 49.8 %
May 20th 2013
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                          ^^GOODAMMN!!! WATCH them DANCE and cop pleas
May 20th 2013
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                          what does this have to do with Melo sucking ass in the 4th ALL SERIES?
May 20th 2013
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                          'Melo was locking down a much bigger man, being a good teammate
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                               a good teammate would have cracked the 2.0apg mark in the series
May 20th 2013
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                                    True. I like you avoiding the defense point like bubonic plague
May 20th 2013
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                                         funny how you didnt mention that once during the series or right after
May 21st 2013
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                          a small, not that significant drop in production over six games
May 21st 2013
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                     CREDIT? MELO TEAM FUCKIN LOST, NIGGA!
May 20th 2013
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                          Paul George was the 4th best defender in that series.
May 20th 2013
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                               Melo home, as I predicted. Disgusted?
May 20th 2013
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                                    o so we moving goalposts now?
May 20th 2013
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                                         he did outplay melo. Articles been written about that.
May 20th 2013
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                                              Wait - articles been written!?!?!? OHH SHIT SON
May 20th 2013
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                                                   cool...find some that say melo outplayed george and won the series
May 20th 2013
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                                                        Weird -- there's actually more articles about Hibbert and Born Ready
May 21st 2013
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                                                             for game 6 or for the series?
May 21st 2013
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           LOL fuckin Roy Hibbert found a way for them to win
May 20th 2013
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                oh, don't feel bad...that's what mad niggas do. Cyse shit against logic....
May 20th 2013
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                     b/c this ain't what they did THIS series.
May 20th 2013
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                          This dude bouncing between regular season, playoffs and 4th quarters
May 20th 2013
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                          ha ha true. He the one changing focuses and when we respond
May 20th 2013
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                               This nigga had the gall to use Hibbert's regular season numbers
May 20th 2013
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                                    Melo shoulda inspired Tyson to play better...like a leader does.
May 20th 2013
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                                         Tyson hurt. But Born Ready inspired Paul George.
May 20th 2013
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                                              I'll regret it when he's a STAR
May 20th 2013
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                                                   George a wimpy Cali nigga who NEED a Coney Island thug to play hard.
May 21st 2013
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                                                        not really, but it was nice to see
May 21st 2013
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                          your team being unable to hold them in check is not MY problem
May 20th 2013
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           pretty sure both topics have been covered, actually
May 20th 2013
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if this was a guy like Iverson tho, people would be frying him
May 20th 2013
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      Iverson ball hogged his way out the league, embarrassed the nation
May 20th 2013
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      but in all honesty the Knicks got beat by role players and rebounding..
May 20th 2013
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           http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt77phjQ9f1qdlkgg.gif
May 20th 2013
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           yeah...um, melo shit the bed in the quarter
May 20th 2013
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                Close games? Nah
May 20th 2013
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                     fuck outta here with that last millenium comeback...we ALL watched
May 20th 2013
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                          One of your minions even said his 9 rebounds didnt matter....
May 20th 2013
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                               fuck outta here with that freshman psych. we all grown.
May 20th 2013
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                                    so his 9 boards did matter? Cool
May 20th 2013
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dang Ba almost diamond??
May 21st 2013
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This is my Confessions
May 21st 2013
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      i sit alone in my 4 corner trophy room staring at space
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           ***SWEATIN AND LAUGHIN***
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           TRIGGA HAPPY MOTHA FUCKIN MELO BOYS
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           RE: TRIGGA HAPPY MOTHA FUCKIN MELO BOYS
May 21st 2013
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           lmao!!!!
May 22nd 2013
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           bawahahahahahahaha
May 28th 2013
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Real crux of the argument:
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because the one you mad about ain't played for 11 seasons
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      He's not making it 11 seasons
May 21st 2013
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           k
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           LOL
May 21st 2013
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           No way in hell
May 22nd 2013
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Like i said, no W's can be taken here
May 22nd 2013
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nigga, you a knick fan...just shut up
May 22nd 2013
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GAME 1 TO OT! YOU WINNING, BA!
May 22nd 2013
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I thought he already won?
May 22nd 2013
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DAT ICING!
May 22nd 2013
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george lets his man to the rim, hibbert not there to save his ass
May 23rd 2013
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yeah, that's what this thread about
May 23rd 2013
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not surprisingly, im unconcerned
May 23rd 2013
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that was one play that happened in two seconds. overall ...
May 23rd 2013
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      you know he franchise now because people wanna blame him and hate
May 23rd 2013
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      Your biases are laughable
May 23rd 2013
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      Melo was shitting the bed for ENTIRE FOURTH QUARTERS!!!!
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      yep
May 24th 2013
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Frank cockslobbing Basa
May 24th 2013
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Zack Lowe and Simmons talked about it
May 24th 2013
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so does anyone with eyes not wearing a knicks jersey
May 24th 2013
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Hibbert on the different between Bron, Wade and Ball Hog Johnson
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yeah all the knicks players and coaches share the blame.
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you may ask yourself "How did I get here?"...letting that Ls go by
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lol
Nov 08th 2013
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I was Born Ready.
Nov 08th 2013
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Who is untradeable and an affront to the very game of basketball
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images6.fanpop.com/image/polls/1191000/1191353_1363285792247_full.jpg
Nov 08th 2013
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lol
Nov 08th 2013
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Melo out. PG in.
Feb 15th 2015
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Melo career over. Knee is silly putty.
Feb 15th 2015
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Lil GOAT laughed at Melo's resume
Feb 16th 2015
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Carmelo saved Team USA basketball, and invested his money.
Feb 16th 2015
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      Team Nigeria Wept
Feb 16th 2015
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      Oh yeah, USA basketball was in real peril. STFU. AI got stacks, BTW.
Feb 16th 2015
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           Iverson led Team USA to Olympic Bronze in Athens.
Feb 16th 2015
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happy with what? one shitty scoring title and three playoff series won?
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Iverson was fired from the league.
Feb 16th 2015
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      Iverson earned every single penny in his career
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           Key word there is "penny."
Feb 16th 2015
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a fat dude has bad knees. I know I'm shocked.
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      Wade has bad knees. n/m
Feb 16th 2015
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Melo tryna shut it down, PG tryna push back. Says a lot.
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PG not tryna end up like Rose.
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cmon lol
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shows how much help PG got in indy.
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      i'm sorry, is indy officially a playoff team yet?
Feb 17th 2015
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           is anyone?
Feb 17th 2015
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Funny, I Thought He Didn't Matter
Feb 16th 2015
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      I thought this was about a playoff series matchup
Feb 16th 2015
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      man, go up your dion "it's kyrie fault i'm sorry" waiters rapitty raps
Feb 16th 2015
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           you mean my "Kyrie has skills but is playing like a loser" raps?
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                you were being a homer and delusional. dion still sucks
Feb 16th 2015
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                lmao at that bullshit history
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                     RE: lmao at that bullshit history
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                          you wanna revisit where you were claiming he looked like Harden?
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                               I didn't claim anything, just copied and pasted
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                                    it was a wack comparison then, it's even worse now. he sorry.
Feb 17th 2015
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                                         6th man for OKC, not really a "bust"
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                                              keep deflecting
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                                                   RE: keep deflecting
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                                                        so then it should be extra embarrassing that the cheating is from
Feb 17th 2015
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                                                             RE: so then it should be extra embarrassing that the cheating is from
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      not my fault. i was over it.
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           You actually lost this debate when you ignored this:
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                nothing we could do to win or lose this debate...up to the players.
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                     Precisely. And you ignored Paul George's historic collapse.
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                          RE: Precisely. And you ignored Paul George's historic collapse.
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                               that shows he didn't play to seed
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                                    they made the conference finals...again...that's playing to seed
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                                         lolz so a 2 losing to 3 is not playing to seed. A 1 losing to 2 is playi...
Feb 17th 2015
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                                         a 1 or 2 seed is EXPECTED to reach the FINAL ROUND of a bracket
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                                              a 1 seed is supposed to make the finals. stop basa.
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                                              the finals on THEIR SIDE of the BRACKET, you GENIUS!
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                                                   yes i'm sure that's why the pacers wanted home court through the playoff...
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                                                        *shrug* irrelevant...they were seeded by conference.
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                                              NOOOOOOOPE!!! You got CAUGHT, nigga. FESS UP!
Feb 17th 2015
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                                         BWAHAHAHAH!!!!! ^^NIGGA GOT CAUGHT BLATANTLY LYING!!!!
Feb 17th 2015
751
So is this the most bloated ass thread ever?
Feb 17th 2015
752
DC vs. Baltimore nigga beef (Basa) + Iverstania
Feb 17th 2015
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Can we delete this thread and free these dudes bruised buttcheeks?
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#525 "PG = poor man's Manu" © me
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What's the issue? Carmelo having a better career. By a lot.
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he older by a lot
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      This easy: Carmelo a slam dunk to Springfield, George is not.
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should probably get it to 8 hunnid first
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lol what are we arguing about at this point?
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i haven't been arguing about melo and PG since 2013, man.
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      didn't you just up this tho? i'm so confused.
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           My finger cramped up scrolling
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1. "lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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2. "BILL SIMMONS! HIRE THIS MUHPHUCKA PLEAZE!"
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He will write tons of great stuff for you on Grantland....just put a clause in his contract that he can't do Knicks agendas ever again.

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10. "Ba'd get Grantland sued and disbanded within a week"
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11. "He's like Mush from A Bronx Tale. I don't want him LOOKin"
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at my team's box scores

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3. "I second this. and also, "
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dont come in here trying to force Ls when melo is averaging 35 on 40% shooting....thats what he do.

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4. "what about 36 on 45% shooting like in game 1?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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7. "RE: what about 36 on 45% shooting like in 1 game"
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5. "lmao gtfoh"
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6. "So only scoring, no d, doesn't pass = bad basketball? That's Ky-razy!"
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http://tinyurl.com/caxc4tc

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12. "NJJ still tryna guess the password...you have no argument"
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http://tinyurl.com/bmoygfm

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13. "Work on agenda consistency & not hopping on bandwagons of the versatile"
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You all over the place right now.

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14. "my paul george v. melo agenda was set up months ago"
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don't be mad because i got vision and be settin shit up and you don't see it comin and fumble it like a cavs big man.

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16. "Dude, I care less either way about this agenda. "
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I like 3 things about Melo: he's Puerto Rican, born in Brooklyn, he's clutch.

Only 1 thing has to do with basketball.

You can't go anti- 1 dimensional chucker one moment. Then, the same day post some shit pro- 1 dimensional chucker.

Them shits catch up to you, like the whole D-Rose shit.

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17. "RE: Dude, I care less either way about this agenda. "
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>I like 3 things about Melo: he's Puerto Rican, born in
>Brooklyn, he's clutch.
>
>Only 1 thing has to do with basketball.
>
>You can't go anti- 1 dimensional chucker one moment. Then, the
>same day post some shit pro- 1 dimensional chucker.
>
>Them shits catch up to you, like the whole D-Rose shit.


lol....

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18. "D-Rose the most overrated W/L in OKS history"
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he won an MVP he ain't deserve and russy been to a finals and will win a title before rose ever plays again. y'all can have that.

Melo - in the L since 2003

Kyrie - in the L since 2011

and you can keep actin like john wall a "winner" if you want. he a no jacket loser who had a super-cysed 6 week run.

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20. "Don't care about D-Rose either."
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D-Rose needs to pass more, but Kyrie makes Rose look like Mark fucking Jackson.

You can keep pretending like a 3 point contest matters outside of the Craig Hodges household.

One thing I don't have to think about is whether John Wall is actually a point guard and he directly impacts winning.

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23. "Rose had/has a better team from day 1"
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wall directly impacted 3 straight lottery teams...congrats

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26. "Yet you're the won hitting the ESPN lottery machine looking for hope"
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35. "you damn right i am."
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good luck with emeka and nene cranking up them generators on their knees again tho. i don't wanna hear NO complaints about them next year. none.

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47. "Don't care. Nene might retire. Whoever they get Great Wall..."
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makes better.

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57. "great"
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____________________________________________________


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22. "RE: D-Rose the most overrated W/L in OKS history"
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>
>he won an MVP he ain't deserve and russy been to a finals and
>will win a title before rose ever plays again. y'all can have
>that.

Yep...if only Rose had a KD on his team...

Good times! But on the real, Russy gonna beast though...That kid is a monster...But stop being ridiculous...I thought u were finished with this...

SMH...lol

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24. "well, rose don't have KD..."
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if only russy was from CHI had bucher and wilbon tryna shame people into voting him for MVP...because he from Chi

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27. "Cuz everybody knows people listen to Bucher & Wilbon"
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33. "RE: well, rose don't have KD..."
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>if only russy was from CHI had bucher and wilbon tryna shame
>people into voting him for MVP...because he from Chi

If Russy was in the Chi and carrying a team he would indeed get some MVP votes...And well deserved...

But wait a minute...lol...Rose won because of Wilbon and Bucher playing fanboys?

Man...this is bad posting, homie...even for u...lol

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39. "man, i ain't making this about rose"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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45. "RE: man, i ain't making this about rose"
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U just did...lol


It's all good...I'm pulling for Kyrie anyway...Next year will be very important for the young boy...Gotta start winning...

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61. "actually, i ain't bring him up...i responded"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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239. "Kyrie:Winning Rose:Nutrition "
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Kyrie:Winning Westbrook: Style
Kyrie:Winning Wall: Jumpshot
Kyrie:Winning Kyrie: Passing



Who are the Cavs gunning for in the 2014 lottery?



http://s17.postimg.org/6r7bfqpnz/kyrieglass.jpg - They Call Him Mr. Glass

  

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240. "go make a kyrie thread"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

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28. "lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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8. "the "wins" metric agrees with you."
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http://www.thenbageek.com/players/compare?utf8=%E2%9C%93&player_ids%5B%5D=215&player_ids%5B%5D=113

  

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15. "2003-2012 supports it"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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25. "is PG ready to to be Rated R or NC-17 tho?"
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I like his game... Is he ready to break out this year in that potential 2nd round matchup? So much so that he's the main reason they beat NY in a series?

Wow... that would be something..
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81. "GITCHA GENE SHALIT FACE ASS"
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low end crazy, eastside crazy, wild hunnids crazy, englewood crazy.

  

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19. "I want in - even if he doesn't outplay Melo, he'll at least cancel"
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him out

Unlike Melo, he's going to contribute to his team in more ways than just scoring...

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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29. "This argument is always fantastic: "
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>Unlike Melo, he's going to contribute to his team in more ways
>than just scoring...

Because the team with the most rebounds and assists is the
one who wins the game.

Love it.

  

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99. "for real"
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lol. i love how underrated points are here. POINTS. lol.

melo scoring 48 one of these nights and they gonna complain he shot under 50% and only rebounded his own shot.

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681. "melo didn't come close to scoring 48...'cause PG shut him down"
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____________________________________________________


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21. "this will be pretty easy to judge, right? Whoever wins rnd 2"
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gonna be uppin' the shit out of this post

  

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31. "for agenda purposes, sure. in real life its not that simple"
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if melo shit the bed and the knicks still win it doesn't really prove anything. Same for boy george.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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30. "LOL Knicks fans enjoy this:"
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Not quite knicks related but...


http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22116219/man-gets-arguably-the-worst-nate-robinson-tattoo-ever

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75. "what in the fuck? he dunkin a childrens football into old lady drawz"
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with leopard print and shit, lmao, this guy must have smoked a lot of meth and shared it with the tat artist

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32. "Whattaya know. Melo's really, really good"
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http://bit.ly/11F1mOv

Every NBA player who plays at least 30 min/game and has a usage rate of 25%. Only Bron and Durant have a higher PER.

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http://stylepoints.tumblr.com/

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34. "^The advanced statistics people will ignore this post. "
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Just letting you know.

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37. "say it with me now:"
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PER SUCKS.

so i was looking for the PER formula and found this gem:
"Hollinger argues that each two point field goal made is worth about 1.65 points. A three point field goal made is worth 2.65 points. A missed field goal, though, costs a team 0.72 points. Given these values, with a bit of math we can show that a player will break even on his two point field goal attempts if he hits on 30.4% of these shots. On three pointers the break-even point is 21.4%. If a player exceeds these thresholds, and virtually every NBA player does so with respect to two-point shots, the more he shoots the higher his value in PERs. So a player can be an inefficient scorer and simply inflate his value by taking a large number of shots."

goddam. ether.

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41. "top 10 in ts%, ortg...we use those right?"
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43. "Exactly. People just pick which stats to ignore when discussing Melo"
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And choose to focus on stuff like assists per game,
which are LOL

Rondo led the league in assists per game, Celtics went
on a run the second he left the team, and while he's a
fabulous player, almost no one thinks he's truly indispensable,
nor is he the best playmaker int he league


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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44. "how come they don't talk about that tov% son????"
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48. "my melo hate is based on 'cuse shit"
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i don't really have much of a stance on it, other than laughing that he's the only decent pro they've got in the past 20+ years.

those are probably used correctly*, i haven't checked and have to teach class in 3 minutes, so i won't bother. but i've been on my anti-PER 'genda for years.

*wait, is that top ten in this selected group of high volume usage guys? cuz...that's not as impressive, necessarily.

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49. "This select group can best be described as STARS"
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You know, people who are in the game and touch the ball a lot.

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62. "no one says he is not a 'star' but he's not a star among them"
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he will never measure up to bron or durant and he'll never lead a team to a title. not scathing indictments really.

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64. "^Noooppe! Not as good as Bron or KD = a relevant agenda? "
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>he will never measure up to bron or durant and he'll never
>lead a team to a title. not scathing indictments really.

Niggas shape-shifted and its bwahahahahahahahah

Bron and Durant might end their careers 2 of the top 8
players ever

But we don't like Carmelo because he's not as good 2 of
the 8 best to ever play?!?!?!?!?!?!

This is pure comedy

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74. "well there are other players on the list, too, but not as his position"
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and there are guys i'd rather at the three, especially on a good team. george is one of them.

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76. "you'd rather have George then melo on the knicks or indiana?"
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78. "i would"
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____________________________________________________


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80. "obviously lol"
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175. "indiana yes, knicks i'd have to think about it, not much pop"
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i mean, not say to say that granger is as good as melo but he played a somewhat similar style. i think he fits their team brilliantly. on most teams, especially good teams, i'd take george. more of a fit/versatility thing than a straight BETTER thing. i'm not sure how much consistent firepower the knicks would have without anthony, that gives me pause in their case, i guess.

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177. "interesting...ok."
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164. "he plays the 4 now though... "
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Did at the olympics and all season....

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251. "he still plays the wing and guards a ton of wings"
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i'm not too hung up on positions as much as roles/styles.

who's more comparable to him? durant or blake griffin? exactly.

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66. "i disagree with that claim of what defines a "star""
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but you, know, hey. Melo's as efficient this year as Kobe was. so bully for that.

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67. "Gotta respect your mad in this post. Solid display. "
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n/m

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70. "I'd also like to congratulate Glen Davis"
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for reaching "star" level, as well as the epic Kemba Walker, the corpse formerly known as Carlos Boozer, and Monta NOOOOOO!!!! for being such wonderful "stars" compared to those pathetic players like Dwight Howard, Kevin Garnett, MVPau, and the best player on the knicks roster.

and i'm glad PG warz is over, considering Chris Paul isn't even a "star." Congrats Russy!
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68. "what stars got left out by the criteria used above?"
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71. "see my response to O_E"
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Chris Paul is the real obvious one.

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77. "oh ok...i scanned the list and no one stood out but thats a valid"
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point obviously.

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97. "Going 0-3 against him will do that, I guess?"
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Though GTown was so bad back then, I don't know why you'd even bother hating him. It's not like GTown played any meaningful games in those years. He just beat their irrelevant squad 3 times like he was supposed to.

  

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108. "relax. its not that deep."
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did player x attend cuse eveb if only for one season? If yes, then fuck him. I liked flyn's game but fuck him too.

It is funny that the only decent pro cuse has produced since I went through puberty in the mid nineties is a one dimensional gunner who isn't very efficient. That amuses me more than anything else.

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113. "Waiters is already more than decent....accept it"
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>did player x attend cuse eveb if only for one season? If yes,
>then fuck him. I liked flyn's game but fuck him too.
>
>It is funny that the only decent pro cuse has produced since I
>went through puberty in the mid nineties is a one dimensional
>gunner who isn't very efficient. That amuses me more than
>anything else.

It amuses me that despite a lack of great pros since the mid 90s, Cuse has still beaten GTown like a drum over those years.

  

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162. "no he isn't. he makes melo look multidimensional"
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ts% < 500, ws/48 of .026, O-rating <100 and a d-rating >110 and an A:T ratio of 1.5. he's not good.

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192. "15 ppg as a rookie, improved FG% greatly throughout the year"
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, can get his own shot and create......better than decent.

  

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198. "improved from shit to bad"
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scored 15 on 17 shots per game. his splits per month don't show the improvement in FG% you claim.

he's not good at the moment and i don't think he will become good.
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208. "Wow, you hate Cuse so much you can't even be honest about stats, LOL"
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17 shots per game? Nah, it's 13.

17 shots per 36 minutes.....so if you're using that, you should note he averaged 18 points per 36 minutes. How you got 17 shots and 15 points is beyond me.

As for splits...37, 34, 42, 51, 42, 43.....those are his FG % by month. Given that his 2 lowest %s were his first two months, I don't know how you can't see that as improvement.

  

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217. "sorry, i was skimming basketball reference"
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>17 shots per game? Nah, it's 13.

i got his per 36/per game flipped when i was looking it up. relax.

>17 shots per 36 minutes.....so if you're using that, you
>should note he averaged 18 points per 36 minutes. How you got
>17 shots and 15 points is beyond me.

his per game is 14.7 points (15), his shots per 36 is 17. it's not hard to figure what happened. damn, you're gonna spin it like he doesn't still suck.

>
>As for splits...37, 34, 42, 51, 42, 43.....those are his FG %
>by month. Given that his 2 lowest %s were his first two
>months, I don't know how you can't see that as improvement.

yeah, 42 and 43 percent is still bad. like i said, he went from shit (37% and 34%) to bad (42/43). and he doesn't get to the line enough to even get his TS% up to a respectable number. He sorry. woulda been better to note april was all of 5 games for him and march was all of 7. still, he had one brief streak where he could score. but that's all he had. in his entire rookie season, and then he got worse.


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218. "Nope!"
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42 and 43% isn't terrible for a guard, especially a rookie. Lillard shot 43%, does he suck? He will get to the line more as he gains experience and as he starts getting veteran calls on top of it.

He's a playmaker. He can get his own shot whenever and make things happen. He's not one of those role players who spots up and only takes wide open shots that others create and therefore shoot a great %, that you efficiency nuts get wet over.

I do agree with some others that he could be a potential great fit as a 6th man Jason Terry in Dallas, Jamal Crawford type of guy on a great team.

  

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219. "Lilliard also scored more and was the primary ball handler"
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>Lillard shot 43%, does he suck? He will get to the line more
>as he gains experience and as he starts getting veteran calls
>on top of it.

Lilliard also was the primary point guard (6 assists) and played more per game, shot better from 3 pt range, and was consistent. AND EVERYONE SAYS HIS SHOOTING NEEDS TO IMPROVE. but waiters is a "playmaker." Oh, and lilliard was picked later, is on an equally shitty squad, and was a primary scorer for his team (roughly 50% more shots).

>He's a playmaker. He can get his own shot whenever and make
>things happen. He's not one of those role players who spots up
>and only takes wide open shots that others create and
>therefore shoot a great %, that you efficiency nuts get wet
>over.

yes! please. that's a terrible argument. that's the type of shit that makes him never actually change his game to fit the reality that he's not good enough to Dwayne Wade it and bull to the rim. but yeah, he's a "playmaker." Please, point to other playmakers who have shot 42% for their season and been deemed "good."

the acceptable plea cop for his BAD shooting (seriously. 42% is bad. there's no denying it), is that other teams didn't have to guard anyone on that shitty squad. except they did once kyrie was playing and...42%.

waiters was a net negative in 82games' simple rating, was -4.2 points while on the floor per 48. he's not good. if the #4 pick in the draft is already being described as best fitting as a sixth man...LOL.


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220. "James Harden shot 40% his rookie year"
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He was a 6th man for a great team, was that "LOL" worthy?

  

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221. "http://splicd.com/Ertv4KJgWyI/8/10"
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http://splicd.com/Ertv4KJgWyI/8/10

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222. "exception that proves the rule"
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"he could be a potential great fit as a 6th man Jason Terry in Dallas, Jamal Crawford type of guy on a great team."

that's not harden. or, that was, except harden was clearly way better than them, which is why he didn't stay in that role.

also, harden shot less, took more 3s (and made more of them) while also getting to the FT line more, rebounding more (assisting less, but that's not his role), and had a TS% of .551 compared to .492 for Waiters, which explains his being 10 points better in terms of O-rating, having a ws/48 of .126 instead of .026, and was getting a lot of hate as a potential bust on this board (don't think basa's forgotten that either. lol). he didn't, but you really want to bank on Dion Waiters being James Harden 2.0? (don't forget how different their college careers were too).

i mean, damn. you really want to claim that?

edit: here's the list since 2000 of rookies <6'6 who shot <.420 on fgs. the only good ones outside of Harden are PGs. you know, like Lilliard, but not like Waiters

http://tinyurl.com/coweazy

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223. "College careers?"
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Waiters was the best player on a 34-3 Syracuse team, and his numbers were limited by playing for a really deep and good squad. MCW didn't even get any burn that year.

Harden was the best player on an Arizona St. that got easily bounced from the NCAA's by a good, but not great Syracuse team.

Waiters would've scored 20+ per game at Arizona State, too.

Waiters is doing fine. Should have a very good career. Won't surprise me if he's that Crawford, Harden - OKC, Terry - Dallas type eventually if he ends up on a squad like that. It also won't surprise me if he turns into an All Star. It would surprise me if he doesn't turn into one of those two things.

You playing it like he's a scrub is going to turn into a massive L for you.

  

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224. "did he score 20+? no."
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has he ever played 30+ minutes? no. did he score as efficiently or shoot as well as harden in college? no. but yeah, i was talking about wins there. LOL.

>You playing it like he's a scrub is going to turn into a
>massive L for you.

he's not good today (fact), and you're betting on him doing far better as a low efficiency SG than anyone else other than Harden who has entered the league as a low efficiency SG.

he'll have a decent length career because NBA teams fall for "playmakers" but he's not good, and he won't be an all star. and if he is ever an all star, it'll be a selection that in future generations will be looked at as a "damn? Waiters was an all star?!?!? that year must have sucked" type of selection.

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225. "Noted"
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Though I see you left yourself quite a bit of wiggle room.

Being the best player on a 34-3 team that spent half the season at #1 >>>>scoring 20 a game for a shitty Arizona State team.

  

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226. "best players play >25 minutes"
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>Being the best player on a 34-3 team that spent half the
>season at #1 >>>>scoring 20 a game for a shitty Arizona State
>team.

and LMAO and you focusing your laserlight on that because there's not a SINGLE OTHER SG who shot so poorly and became good later in their career.

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227. "Not always, as that example clearly shows"
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And I'll take your "no other SG" stat as you talking out your ass rather than you actually knowing that or doing any research. NO SG ever shot "poorly" their rookie year and went on to be good? Word?

  

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228. "they came in as PGs if they did"
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>research. NO SG ever shot "poorly" their rookie year and went
>on to be good? Word?

i gave you the link. unless you're excited you've got the possible next larry hughes. i'm sure cleveland would be "thrilled" with that.

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231. "or they just came in a year before your arbitrary starting point"
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http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=hamilri01&y1=2000&p2=waitedi01&y2=2013

waiters TS% and eFG% slightly higher with very close numbers across the board for per 36min & advanced stats, and he started more games & played alot more minutes.

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233. "*shrug* 2000 is a reasonable point"
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it's a nice, even number. so great, in the past 14 years, we've had TWO guys: Harden and Rip Hamilton. and if you extend it to 1990, maybe we'll get to three! My quick search found us larry hughes. woot!

Rip also got traded after 3 years, had a much better college statistical profile, and his splits show a CLEAR improvement in his rookie season, unlike Waiters:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hamilri01/splits/2000/

we'll see what waiters becomes. I'm not confident, the cuse fans are. anything else we have to add here?

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235. "it's a reasonably arbitrary point"
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and it's disingenuous when you use it to try to claim that "there's not a SINGLE OTHER SG who shot so poorly and became good later in their career."

>it's a nice, even number. so great, in the past 14 years,
>we've had TWO guys: Harden and Rip Hamilton. and if you extend
>it to 1990, maybe we'll get to three!

there are others like Jason Terry and your boy Iverson but you want to discount them because they started out labeled as PGs despite the fact that they played SG most of their careers.

>My quick search found us
>larry hughes. woot!

why are you still talking about larry hughes?


>Rip also got traded after 3 years,

so?

>had a much better college
>statistical profile, and his splits show a CLEAR improvement
>in his rookie season, unlike Waiters:
>
>http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hamilri01/splits/2000/

their pre & post AS FG% splits are almost the same; Hamilton was shooting below .400 though February then had a good month shooting in March (while still playing limited minutes only scoring 7ppg); Waiters was shooting below .400 through January then had a good month shooting in February (while starting and scoring 16ppg). not really sure where Hamilton splits show so much more improvement than Waiters.

And Hamilton didn't even average double-digit points and couldn't crack the starting lineup on a godawful Wizards team or even manage to play significant minutes until the last handful of games in April. Meanwhile Waiters started, played significant minutes all season and averaged close to 15ppg.


>we'll see what waiters becomes. I'm not confident, the cuse
>fans are. anything else we have to add here?

besidese that you were wrong? not really.

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237. "You claimed there's never been a shooting guard ever at first"
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Then went back and edited and included some link and started talking about "since 2000".

You're completely irrational when it comes to anything Cuse related, lol.

  

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261. "he's still not good. *shrug*"
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307. "Yeah he is....and he got better"
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But you're too blind to even admit that. From cavstheblog:


In the 33 games from January 1st until his injury on March 18th, Dion Waiters averaged twenty-points per thirty-six minutes. His PER climbed to 16.3, his Offensive Rating hit 104, with usage of 26.6 (those numbers thanks to the esteemed Randall Cooper of laughingcavs.com). Once Dion quit routinely hoisting off-balance jumpers and instead persistently attacked, his age-21 performance compares reasonably with several other recent guards**. A list includes: James Harden 16.4 PER, 119 orating, 19.5 usage; Eric Gordon 14.1 PER, 107 ORtg, 21.5 usage; Russell Westbrook 17.8 PER, 105 ORtg, 25.7 usage; Dwyane Wade (age 22) 17.6 PER, 101 ORtg, 25 usage; Jamal Crawford, 15.3 PER, 102 ORtg, 21.5 usage; J.R. Smith 15.6 PER, 112 ORtg, 22.8 usage. Not saying he will match all of those guys, but the Dion we saw in 2013 performed admirably.

  

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308. "cmon, look at those comparisons. LOOK AT THEM"
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16.3, 104, who cares about usage.

James Harden 16.4 PER, 119 orating, 19.5 usage

so...nope.

; Eric Gordon 14.1 PER, 107 ORtg, 21.5 usage

so...nope (again, remember, per sucks)

Russell Westbrook 17.8 PER, 105 ORtg, 25.7 usage

again, nope (and a PG)

Dwyane Wade (age 22) 17.6 PER, 101 ORtg, 25

LMAO. yep, he's d-wade. lol.

Jamal Crawford, 15.3 PER, 102 ORtg, 21.5 usage;

or....jamal crawford

>J.R. Smith 15.6 PER, 112 ORtg, 22.8 usage.

but he ain't JR.

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310. "you got issues, fam"
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All them #s comparable. Fuck you even ranting about? LOL.

  

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360. "yep, a 107 is comparable to a 119 in o-rating"
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362. "Yep, because 119 was the only other rating listed"
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It's pretty incredible that you'd even try to be shady with numbers that are RIGHT THERE. Like, why are you even arguing this?

Amazing.

  

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366. "it was the unbelievably laughable one"
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I onlyhad to point out one (like you and my point about shooting guards and dion waiters MIGHT JUST BE THE SECOND COMING OF RIP HAMILTON!) after you said "All them #s comparable. "

nope. not all. you were wrong. and that was just the first comparison. The James Harden comparison is particularly important because that was the name included to keep people excited about waiters, aside from wade. Speaking of that comparison...it's pretty iffy to compare a 33 game stretch to a full season, Wade's stats are pretty clearly hurt by his bad first 15 games. Compare D-wade's rookie year after Jan 1 and Waiters post Jan 1 and Wade's clearly much better as a rookie.

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371. "Whatever, point was he played good ball for a nice stretch before"
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he got hurt.

He looks to have a good future as a quality guard in the league.

  

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260. "starting as a PG *matters*"
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because playing out of position and trying to be a distributor/ball handler affects your shooting perceentage.

>there are others like Jason Terry and your boy Iverson but you
>want to discount them because they started out labeled as PGs
>despite the fact that they played SG most of their careers.

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445. "PGs and SGs shoot pretty much the same %'s overall, so not really"
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475. "you came back to this tangent 9 days later to add that?"
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which is completely irrelevant to the point (learning a position you don't fit vs. comparing to all PGs). awesome!

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552. "you mean after you had come back here 10 days later to cop that plea? "
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which is completely irrelevant to the point as the players I mentioned played point guard in college. awesome indeed!



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562. "yeah, PG in college = PG in the pros"
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completely identical game.

hi again! are you going to respond again? just let me know so i can try to build up enough energy to give a fuck about a below average SG on a shit squad.

edit: and i had already made that point about PG vs. SG as a rookie. , just reiterated when i saw this stupid ass tangent was elongated and you were going after me over dion waiters.


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680. "College is different than the pros? Do tell! "
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Tue May-21-13 01:05 PM by 40thStreetBlack

          

Really keen insight there!

But that wasn't your argument - you said that playing out of position trying to learn to be a distributor/ball handler affects your shooting percentage... except those guys played PG in college as primary distributors/ball handlers coming into the league, so your point is irrelevant here. nice try though!


>hi again! are you going to respond again? just let me know so
>i can try to build up enough energy to give a fuck about a
>below average SG on a shit squad.
>
>edit: and i had already made that point about PG vs. SG as a
>rookie. , just reiterated when i saw this stupid ass tangent
>was elongated and you were going after me over dion waiters.

hey there! are you going to pretend you don't give a fuck about Waiters now (15/3/2, All-Rookie First Team - man he really sucks!) and cry about 'going after you' when you're the one who drove this stupid-ass tangent to begin with & came back to elongate it with that irrelevant point because you so obviously don't care? LOL - good times!

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695. "*response*"
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lolall-nba rookie teamlol.

lol college point = prepared to step in as an nba point guard, except you're actually an nba shooting guard. lol.

carry on.

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708. "*reply*"
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>lolall-nba rookie teamlol.

lol15ppg as rookie suckslol.

>lol college point = prepared to step in as an nba point guard,
>except you're actually an nba shooting guard. lol.
>
>carry on.

yeah, except that isn't what you said.

try picking a story and sticking to it next time.

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50. "RE: top 10 in ts%, ortg...we use those right?"
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Whenever advanced statistics are used to judge a players talent/worth to the point of obsession, that person in question should not be taken seriously...

There's room for it all...And no one should get clowned for utilizing it...

But when u have folks on this very board using advanced statistics to push dumb ass agendas, it becomes a drag and just plain idiotic...

It paints stat heads unfairly...And that's a shame...

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51. "yeah you can't look at any stat/stats in a bubble. I laugh at anyone"
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that does.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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52. "lol, y'all mf's LOVED P.E.R. when it was propping up Kevin Love"
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54. "niggas stay talking about "efficiency" as the be all and end all"
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yet shit on the stat that measures it. Frankly, I think that we've become too obsessed with efficiency. It's possible to be inefficient and GOOD at the same time. If you're talented enough you can afford a bit of inefficiency.

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55. "Right, cats praying to Hollinger and shit. "
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65. "find me in any post ever saying PER was a good stat"
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hint: you won't.

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252. "shitting on advanced stats=sure sign u mad"
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>Just letting you know.
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>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
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36. "Yeah, this is residual mad from 'Melo getting a patch. "
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I understand it.

But that's what this is.

Niggas mad Carmelo got that patch.

And its in the books forever. Now we gonna shape-shift
and create new angles.

And if the Knicks beat the Pacers, we gonna shape shift
again to something about Carmelo vs. Lebron or Wade or
some shit



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38. "true."
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>And if the Knicks beat the Pacers, we gonna shape shift
again to something about Carmelo vs. Lebron or Wade or
some shit

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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40. "not really...this is about me keepin myself entertained and relevant"
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man, i have NO players in this thing to cyse. deng and booz going home early. batty is BORING and inconspicuous, to be kind. durant and russy ain't cysable for a good month. i can't wait that long.

knicks are the livest subject on this board. c'mon...it's me.

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42. "Nah, no beef, but we already been through you and Carmelo"
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I can't shake the residual DC-Baltimore feel to this
agenda, I'm sorry

Like, Carmelo is a first ballot hall of famer, right today

And you stay talking about how "he ain't as good as he was
supposed to be"

Lebron is Lebron. He's a god. You are actually upset at
Carmelo for not being as good at Lebron

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46. "RE: Nah, no beef, but we already been through you and Carmelo"
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>
>I can't shake the residual DC-Baltimore feel to this
>agenda, I'm sorry
>
>Like, Carmelo is a first ballot hall of famer, right today
>
>And you stay talking about how "he ain't as good as he was
>supposed to be"
>
>Lebron is Lebron. He's a god. You are actually upset at
>Carmelo for not being as good at Lebron
>
>It just ain't natural B


This is true...

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53. "whoa whoa..carmelo anthony is not a fucking first ballot hofer..yet"
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56. "If Ray Allen is, and Reggie Miller is...then Melo is. Sorry, guy."
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60. "Ehh, that comparison sells Ray short a bit."
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If their careers were the same length, absolutely Melo would be above Ray. But I think the two big parts that make Ray first ballot are his duration as an All-Star (ten out of twelve years) and his title.

I'd say Melo is currently in, and assuming nothing bad happens (knock on wood), he's a HOFer first ballot. I just wouldn't put his rsum above Ray's yet.

He's obviously got a better rsum than Reggie though. That's a given.

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69. "NCAA title too = utter and complete shoe-in"
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>If their careers were the same length, absolutely Melo would
>be above Ray. But I think the two big parts that make Ray
>first ballot are his duration as an All-Star (ten out of
>twelve years) and his title.
>
>I'd say Melo is currently in, and assuming nothing bad happens
>(knock on wood), he's a HOFer first ballot. I just wouldn't
>put his rsum above Ray's yet.
>
>He's obviously got a better rsum than Reggie though. That's
>a given.


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79. "+2 gold medals"
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