11. "entertaining scrap -- ref allowed the fight to be too sloppy" In response to Reply # 0
but credit to Fury for taking advantage of laissez-faire officiating. I thought Steve boxed well but ultimately was tired out from the fast action and Fury laying his body on him in clinches.
Wlad will destroy Fury - but he might have a shot vs. Vitali.
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16. "is this old man draking the mexican natl anthem?" In response to Reply # 0
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17. "Trout worked him in the 6th" In response to Reply # 0
------------------------- “The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.” Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B
18. "both guys are winded now" In response to Reply # 0
fish needs to keep circling to his right
------------------------- “The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.” Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B
19. "tex judges are on bath salts" In response to Reply # 0
trout has controlled most of the action
------------------------- “The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.” Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B
26. "Those score cards were ridiculous " In response to Reply # 0
It was way closer than they had it. In any case, Trout fought well and it was a good fight, the right man won and we luckily don't have to see a rematch. Trout really has nothing to be ashamed of. I'll be looking forward to watching both fighters next fights.
27. "i had trout winning by 2" In response to Reply # 0
the guy who had it 118-109 should be banned from the sport. canelo showed some impressive head movement, hes alot more complete fighter now great fight and tough to score
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28. "Wow - you guys had Trout winning that fight?" In response to Reply # 0
I had it 115-111 for Canelo. Can't see how that was a robbery.
Thought it was a tight fight, but ultimately the cleaner, more effective aggression carried Canelo to me. I don't think people scored those straight right-hands to the sternum/chest enough, which were landing at a high clip (probably Canelo's best punch in the fight).
That said, Trout certainly won a fair amount of rounds, but ultimately Canelo landed the most effective shots, and his defense was much slicker and elusive than I was anticipating.
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30. "RE: Nah, Canelo won. He's just more talented. " In response to Reply # 29
> >Much more talented, more slick, more diverse. > >He's just a really, really, good fighter. > >And he's improving.
I definitely saw improvement, nuance. But I still saw some weaknesses he has yet to address. Namely, periods of inactivity where he waits too long and lets his opponent get off first, scoring cheaply on him. But his defense and head-movement has really improved.
I still love the Mayweather match-up because Canelo is an economical puncher, doesn't waste shots, and calculates his punches. Mayweather likes to capitalize off sloppy assaults, but Canelo is patient and every punch is purposeful.
One thing I noticed again tonight is that Canelo instinctually throws a hard punch (mostly a straight right hand) every single time he's hit w/ a punch. Mayweather will likely anticipate/study that - and adjust mid-fight to capitalize - but not without a Canelo cannon coming back at him.
Really hope that fight happens after Floyd outclasses Ghost.
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31. "golden boy production decision lol" In response to Reply # 0
I'm in mexico and everyone thought trout won,smh Trout Controlled the pace , ring generalship , and I'm assuming landed more punches Broadcast was in Spanish so I didn't get the broadcaster bias or punchstat numbers Trout controlled the fight with his jab IMO. Canelo landed harder but just didn't landed enough. And he clearly lost the "championship round s" especially the 12th. Everyone was quiet and salty like canelo lost but I kept telling them GBP wasnt bout to let him catch a L in a close fight Shits so predictable and corny at this point
32. "didnt know this had open scoring...." In response to Reply # 31
Deportes didn't show that. Might explain why canelo was coasting like shit late. saw a yahoo article that said canelo dominated but most boxing forums have cats saying trout won but no one was surprised by the cards given the climate of boxing now days Flip side is I think its more likely we get that Floyd matchup in sept. Now
33. "RE: didnt know this had open scoring...." In response to Reply # 32 Sun Apr-21-13 01:47 PM by Vex_id
I actually thought this fight was similar to Rigondeaux/Donaire, except Trout made a better showing for himself than Donaire did v. Rigondeaux.
All of the memorable shots in the aforementioned bout were landed by Rigondeaux (minus the knockdown Donaire right hand).
Alike, Canelo landed all of the most effective shots - and those shots did real damage. Trout was busy, but he didn't get enough substantive work done. I don't see how you can score a few glancing jabs that don't land clean as carrying rounds versus more economical power shots that land flush. Close fight, but clear win for Canelo to me.
Open scoring really deflated the fight, and I thought it was unfortunate because as you noted, Canelo knew he could cruise in the final championship rounds (whereas if he didn't know the score he would've had to engage far more).
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Canelo is resourceful with his punches and I give credit for that but he didn't get off enough IMO. Ppl keep talking about the damage he did but then ignore the fact trout had him on his bike several times and had him pinned on the ropes looking spent several times. there was a point where we thought canelo might get dropped while he was leaning on the ropes getting popped but trout didn't have the power to wrap it up. He looked exhausted and/or dazed. Ppl that are saying canelo won are acting as if the shit was one sided when that's not the case. I was mostly impressed with canelos head movement in the early rounds but other than that don't think his offensive performance was anything to write home about.
38. "Agree that Canelo needs to be busier, but Trout wasn't landing" In response to Reply # 37
Ppl keep talking about >the damage he did but then ignore the fact trout had him on >his bike several times and had him pinned on the ropes looking >spent several times.
But when Trout had Canelo on the ropes he wasn't scoring w/ much effectiveness at all. Canelo was slipping most of his work and his surprisingly deft head-movement had Trout catching a lot of air.
there was a point where we thought canelo >might get dropped while he was leaning on the ropes getting >popped but trout didn't have the power to wrap it up.
Never saw Canelo in any trouble at all. Despite the knockdown (where Trout was badly rocked) - I saw him wobble 2-3 other times in the fight, and his face showed the wear & tear of the fight. Canelo's face was basically unscathed at the end of the night and that's largely because when Trout would land (w/ mostly his jab) - Canelo would be always moving away from the punch, whereas Trout was moving into Canelo's shots.
He >looked exhausted and/or dazed. Ppl that are saying canelo won >are acting as if the shit was one sided when that's not the >case.
I think it was a clear win - but Trout made a good account of himself and certainly won a fair amount of rounds.
>I was mostly impressed with canelos head movement in the early >rounds but other than that don't think his offensive >performance was anything to write home about.
I was impressed, but he still must continue to improve if he's to challenge Mayweather.
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39. "lol cmon with the post fight face analysis" In response to Reply # 38
If u can't acknowledge canelo was on his bike or getting caught on the ropes we ain't gonna really agree on this one. IMA rewatch this in english when I can cause there seems to be a clear divide on who ppl thought won
40. "well ppl are acting like trout was landing effectively throughout" In response to Reply # 39
he wasn't. And yes, having a fairly unscathed face at the end of the fight is evidence of tight defense. You didn't see Rigondeaux busted up at all against Donaire, but Donaire's face told a story.
>If u can't acknowledge canelo was on his bike or getting >caught on the ropes we ain't gonna really agree on this one. >IMA rewatch this in english when I can cause there seems to be >a clear divide on who ppl thought won
I noticed he was taking his foot off the gas too much, and perhaps had some stamina issues, but he was never hurt - and I just didn't see him getting caught w/ much at all. The rounds Trout won were more because of Canelo's inactivity than because of Trout's effective punching.
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35. "Who Would You Rather Have Been?" In response to Reply # 0
Canelo and it's not even close. Yes, he allowed himself to get outworked for the majority of the fight but he clearly landed the more clean effective punches. Like most people, I slept on his defense which was amazing to watch. Even in his frequent moments of inactivity, he was not getting hit consistently which was very telling. Canelo was completely confident, almost arrogant, and in full control for the majority of the fight. He outboxed Trout. His jab landed at a higher percentage than Trout's and was definitely the stronger of the two. Maybe he is just better.
41. "That open scoring and texas scorring in general is wack" In response to Reply # 0
As soon as canelo's corner heard the score after the 4th they knew that there was no way they were losing a decision (even though everyone knew that from the get go). Y would canelo be more active when he can just sit back and potshot and win rounds.
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