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"How stamina and fatigue affects injuries..."


  

          

I've been hearing about this for the last few years, but I'm just now starting to understand how it can happen.

I never understood how playing too many minutes in Basketball or any sport led to injuries, except cases when they already had an issue (ankle already sprained, etc.)

With the Kobe situation, 95% of folks say he got hurt because he was playing too many minutes, while 5% say it was a complete freak accident that could have happened at any time.

I'm not educated on this side of Sports...so...how is it that playing too much can cause injuries? I get how playing too hard can, for sure. But is it because the body is tired and operates different?

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fatigue exposes underlying issues
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that shyt can happen to literally anybody young or old
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it can happen at any time
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Non contact injuries are almost always overuse
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have you seen those pictures of RGIII?
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Just awful... I wonder if the Skins training staff tried to address it
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Overuse is absolutely true when it comes to tendons
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rehab has alot to do with heart
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your muscles protect
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yeah there's really no way of saying with this kobe injury,
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1. "fatigue exposes underlying issues"
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Sun Apr-14-13 09:42 PM by 3xKrazy

          

when you move like shit (or less than optimal), you'll move a lot shittier when fatigue sets in as your body strives to be more efficient. in addition to stamina/fatigue i'd add strength as another variable. if you're not strong enough to hold an ideal position then you move closer to injury threshold.

i think more injuries are preventable than many people realize. just my opinion though.

  

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2. "that shyt can happen to literally anybody young or old"
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iv been in enough rec leagues to kno from experience

Achilles injuries are just funny like that

one of those shyts im truly scared of happening when im hooping


cause it can tear at just about anytime doing sutten as mundane as joggin down the court

but u cant definitively put it on fatigue and wear n tear


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3. "it can happen at any time"
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now when he got hurt in Atlanta that was like a warning, however in the game friday night against the warriors he had some serious crashes that it almost seemed certain something was going to go down.

the body taken that kind of beating and all of that movement isn't meant for that kind of punishment. now Kobe is physically fit and takes great care of himself, etc.. however that is a freakish accident and he turned one time too many.

i do feel he played too much and needed to pace himself. i do feel they ran him into the ground.

you gotta balance out minutes.

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4. "Non contact injuries are almost always overuse"
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or the person has muscle or posture imbalances/weaknesses that at some point are just going to break down. Kobe appears to be more along the lines of overuse/being old/lack of recovery. A person having bad movement patterns(Nadal in tennis, Strasberg in baseball, and tons of other pitchers) also make injury much more likely.

  

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6. "have you seen those pictures of RGIII?"
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> A person having bad movement patterns(Nadal in
>tennis, Strasberg in baseball, and tons of other pitchers)
>also make injury much more likely.

  

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9. "Just awful... I wonder if the Skins training staff tried to address it"
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Gifted athletes are often able to compensate for some bad mechanics.... but your knees shouldn't touch on a broad jump when you've got your feet hip-width apart!

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10. "Overuse is absolutely true when it comes to tendons "
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If you simply look at the most common injury among athletes w/ high mileages in a non-contact sport such as Track & Field.....99% of the time it's some type of tendon related injury (i.e. hamstrings). It's as if when they hit 30, they all of a sudden start pulling out of races w/ a strained hamstring. The tendons just basically wear out like a break pad but our body doesn't repair it as efficiently as we age.

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5. "rehab has alot to do with heart"
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7. "your muscles protect"
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those ligaments/tendons. when the muscles get tired, they can't protect as much. it also affects your form, which can lead to injuries too.

think about a simple bench press. after you reach a certain point, you can barely lift the bar and your technique gets all fugged up and anything can happen.

with that said, you can't say it was only fatigue. shit happens. had this occurred in game 2 of the season, his minutes wouldn't be in question.

  

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8. "yeah there's really no way of saying with this kobe injury,"
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unless he had tendonitis or was playing through a specific ankle condition.

Funny thing is that ruptured achilles injuries usually happen in the beginning of the season or training camp cause it tends to happen when theres a sudden increase in activity that the tendon was not prepared for. Other than that, is when there is tendonitis or the tendon just snaps on some freak tip.

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