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"Pro scouts fry Geno Smith"
Mon Apr-01-13 11:06 PM by select_from_where

  

          

All you mountaineer fans come get ya boy

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2013/04/01/barkley-smith-scouting-reports
QB Geno Smith, #12
West Virginia
PFW Grade: 5.39
Ht: 6-23/8 | Wt: 218 | Sp: 4.59 | Arm: 321/2 | Hand: 91/4
Notes: His cousin, Melvin Bratton, was a star running back for the Miami Hurricanes in the late 1980s. The Florida prep was a Parade All-American selection after throwing for over 3,000 yards and 32 touchdowns. Saw limited action in five games as a true freshman in 2009, completing 32-of-49 passes for 309 yards (65.3 percent) with one touchdown and one interception while playing through a broken fifth metatarsal in his left foot for part of the season. Took over as the starter in ’10 and tossed 241-372-2,763-24-7 (64.8) in 13 starts. Was the first West Virginia QB in 12 years to throw for over 2,500 yards in a season. Garnered heavy recognition for ’11 season, setting the Big East Conference and school mark for passing yards with 346-526-4,385-31-7 (65.8), in addition to becoming the first Mountaineer QB in history and only the second Big East player to surpass 4,000 yards in a season in 13 starts. Named Orange Bowl MVP after throwing for 407 yards and six touchdowns against Clemson. Set the school record and led the Big 12 Conference in touchdown passes in ’12 after tossing 369-518-4,205-42-6 (a conference-leading 71.2) in 13 starts. Threw for 656 yards and eight touchdowns in a 70-63 shootout victory against Baylor. Had a 26-13 record in 39 career starts.
Positives: Has a strong arm and can rifle the ball with good velocity into tight windows. Can throw with accuracy on the move and layer the deep ball. Good overall accuracy, ball placement and touch, especially on the fade route. Throws a very catchable ball — spins it tightly. Good escapability — can sidestep the rush, find an open throwing window and extend plays with his feet when needed. Outstanding straight-line speed — clocked the best 40-yard time (4.56 seconds) and broad jump (10-foot-4) of any quarterback at the Combine. Very durable, experienced, three-year starter — overcame an average offensive line, has never missed any time to injury and will play through pain.
Negatives: Operated an offense where he received adjustments from the sidelines and was often out of sync with receivers. Average field vision and coverage recognition — forces throws and does not work through progressions. Takes unnecessary sacks and does not feel pressure well. Not an elusive scrambler. Shaky lower-body mechanics — does not stand tall in the pocket (crouches, hops, dances and elevates to his toes when he throws). Has pin legs and bad pocket posture. Operated almost exclusively from the gun. Not a student of the game. Nonchalant field presence — does not command respect from teammates and cannot inspire. Mild practice demeanor — no urgency. Not committed or focused — marginal work ethic. Interviewed poorly at the Combine and did not show an understanding of concepts on the white board. Opted not to compete at the Senior Bowl and has approached offseason training as if he has already arrived and it shows in his body with minimal muscle definition or strength. Has small hands and glaring ball security issues (32 career fumbles). Really struggled handling the snow in Pinstripe Bowl (took two safeties) and will be troubled by the elements. Needed to be coddled in college — cannot handle hard coaching.
Summary: Started the season red-hot with the help of two playmaking receivers and created a national stir generating a lot of overexcitement in the scouting community. Quickly came down to earth after Kansas State disguised coverages and brought pressure he could not handle and he finished dropping six of his final eight games. A cross between Akili Smith and Aaron Brooks, Smith is a gimmick, overhyped product of the system lacking the football savvy, work habits and focus to cement a starting job and could drain energy from a QB room. Will be overdrafted and struggle to produce against NFL defensive complexities.
NFL projection: Top-50 pick.

  

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This is BULLSHIT right here....
Apr 01st 2013
1
A red flag is a red flag, dude fell to pieces last season
Apr 01st 2013
2
      He had 42 touchdowns and six interceptions. The whole season.
Apr 02nd 2013
4
           i had the same thought/experience. just checked his stats
Apr 02nd 2013
16
                I just checked Blaine Gabbert's junior year stats. 16 TDs, 9 Ints.
Apr 02nd 2013
18
                     no one called gabbert pro ready, did they?
Apr 02nd 2013
21
                          PFW had Gabbert rated ahead of Newton
Apr 02nd 2013
23
                               that's the same guy who wrote this
Apr 02nd 2013
24
Aaron Brooks and Akili Smith??
Apr 01st 2013
3
Person who wrote it didn't blink an eye either.
Apr 02nd 2013
5
that's what gave it away.
Apr 02nd 2013
6
exactly, that comparison had me calling bullshit
Apr 02nd 2013
9
word. and Tre'ryan Leaf. and Timavious Couch.
Apr 02nd 2013
11
      Lol, I love that sketch
Apr 02nd 2013
20
OH SHIT!! SB Nation just FRIED the author! Its the same RG3/Cam guy!!
Apr 02nd 2013
7
i came in here to say that. fuck that dude. shit is dripping w/ teh
Apr 02nd 2013
10
I thought that name sounded familiar. So this is his schtick?
Apr 02nd 2013
12
aww man, I thought this said FIRED
Apr 02nd 2013
14
me too.
Apr 02nd 2013
17
i was hoping
Apr 26th 2013
27
Even McShay said a lot of this was overblown
Apr 02nd 2013
22
In fairness, I think the RG3 critique was by a Cam-stan
Apr 02nd 2013
25
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmHUH!!! vvvvvv
Apr 02nd 2013
8
LOL...what?????
Apr 02nd 2013
13
Drop our good friend a line: nnawrocki@pfwmedia.com
Apr 02nd 2013
15
We've already put him on racial waivers, but he cleared
Apr 26th 2013
28
Basa pointed it out in the other thread
Apr 02nd 2013
19
I have no horse in this race, just upping this for the hilarity
Apr 25th 2013
26

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1. "This is BULLSHIT right here...."
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>training as if he has already arrived and it shows in his body
>with minimal muscle definition or strength.

Bruh is SWOLE...that's bs.



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2. "A red flag is a red flag, dude fell to pieces last season"
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If fat bastard picks him up it will be his first of many mistakes while coaching BBQ heaven

  

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4. "He had 42 touchdowns and six interceptions. The whole season."
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Its weird, white people had me believing he actually
did suck the second half of the season

He like, didn't at all.


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thejerseytornado
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16. "i had the same thought/experience. just checked his stats"
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Tue Apr-02-13 09:23 AM by thejerseytornado

  

          

he wasn't great during the L streak, but he wasn't the problem (losing 50-49 or 55-34= NOT YOUR QBS FAULT)

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It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilarious.

  

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18. "I just checked Blaine Gabbert's junior year stats. 16 TDs, 9 Ints. "
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>he wasn't great during the L streak, but he wasn't the
>problem (losing 50-49 or 55-34= NOT YOUR QBS FAULT)

And I remember him being the "safer, more pro ready"
QB prospect relative to Cam Newton.

LOL @ racism


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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thejerseytornado
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21. "no one called gabbert pro ready, did they?"
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Tue Apr-02-13 10:07 AM by thejerseytornado

  

          

>LOL @ racism

but yeah, this.


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23. "PFW had Gabbert rated ahead of Newton"
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Can't access their reasons, though

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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24. "that's the same guy who wrote this"
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he's racist.

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3. "Aaron Brooks and Akili Smith??"
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Laziest comparison ever. He might as well have thrown Jamarcus Russell and Pat White in there (or any other black guy who has ever thrown a football. They're all the same).

  

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5. "Person who wrote it didn't blink an eye either. "
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>Laziest comparison ever. He might as well have thrown
>Jamarcus Russell and Pat White in there (or any other black
>guy who has ever thrown a football. They're all the same).

That's how racism works.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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6. "that's what gave it away."
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9. "exactly, that comparison had me calling bullshit"
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11. "word. and Tre'ryan Leaf. and Timavious Couch. "
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how fucking long has it been since it was fashionable to slay ni&&as by comparing them to aaron brooks. not a-ay-ron.



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20. "Lol, I love that sketch"
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not a-ay-ron.
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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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7. "OH SHIT!! SB Nation just FRIED the author! Its the same RG3/Cam guy!!"
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http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/4/1/4171580/nfl-draft-2013-geno-smith-nolan-nawrocki





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(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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10. "i came in here to say that. fuck that dude. shit is dripping w/ teh "
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'cisms.

ni&&as intangibles always gotta be all kindsa fucked up w/ nawrocki.

he can choke on a bbc.


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12. "I thought that name sounded familiar. So this is his schtick? "
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Then again those those things can all very well be true
Started out like a reg eval
Then It turned into something else

  

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14. "aww man, I thought this said FIRED"
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Damn.

  

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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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22. "Even McShay said a lot of this was overblown"
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Although dude was somehow credited for his Cam analysis, in light of "some of the things that happened to Cam this year" lolol like if he had a good team we'd have heard any of it.




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>http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/4/1/4171580/nfl-draft-2013-geno-smith-nolan-nawrocki
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25. "In fairness, I think the RG3 critique was by a Cam-stan"
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trying to praise Cam (in reaction to Naawrocki's piece) by pulling Griffin down.

<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->

  

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8. "mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmHUH!!! vvvvvv"
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"Neither of those quarterbacks piled up their college stats in an Air Raid system like Smith's. Why not compare him instead to Tim Couch, Kevin Kolb or John Beck, who did?"

DOGG.

Kevin Kolb = Tim Couch 2.0.

Vindication. Anything else is onion breath.

  

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Good escapability — can sidestep the rush, find an open throwing window and extend plays with his feet when needed.


Takes unnecessary sacks and does not feel pressure well. Not an elusive scrambler

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15. "Drop our good friend a line: nnawrocki@pfwmedia.com"
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nnawrocki@pfwmedia.com

  

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28. "We've already put him on racial waivers, but he cleared"
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Optioned to ECHL affiliate of the white franchise.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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19. "Basa pointed it out in the other thread"
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its agenda politricks dude is doubling (tripling) down on his failed agendas.

In all seriousness i actually like it when the top ranked QB in the draft is black and gets racist criticism. It's seemed to spurn them on in the last couple of years to be great. At this this stage geno is goin in the top 10 anyway so he gonna be alright.

  

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26. "I have no horse in this race, just upping this for the hilarity "
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