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Frank Longo
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"Get Your Dance Tickets! Conference Finals: Tuesday"


  

          

Northeast: Mount St. Mary's vs. LIU Brooklyn- ESPN2, 7 PM

The hot choice here is Mount St. Mary's, currently on a 9-game win streak. But LIU has the 6th highest scoring offense in NCAA (20th in offensive efficiency) and they rebound the ball much better than MSM. They lost less than a month ago to MSM on the road... but two months ago on a neutral floor, LIU got the job done. I'm going against the grain with LIU here.

Guy to watch: Jamal Olasewere. Leading scorer and rebounder for LIU. His foul trouble likely cost LIU the game on the road. He's averaging over 20 and 9 since that game. Can he stay on the court?

Horizon League: Wright State vs. Valpo- ESPN, 9 PM

Valpo is just better. They've shot 48% from the field in their two wins against Wright State this year, holding them to a little over 42%. Valpo is turnover-prone, ranking 298th out of 347 in turnovers per possession. The only way Wright State wins is by keeping Valpo from shooting the ball by forcing turnovers.

Summit League: North Dakota State vs. South Dakota State- ESPN2, 9 PM

CROSS DAKOTA RIVALRYYYYYYY! On paper, this should be all South Dakota State. Nate Wolters is no goddamn joke-- if you've never gotten to see him play, check this one out. He shoots the ball especially well for a point guard, he makes smart savvy passes, and his team's offense is so efficient largely due to him. This is a team that beat New Mexico at New Mexico, beat Montana at Montana, and nearly beat Alabama at Alabama.

However, don't totally discount the Bison. They play a slower-paced game, relying on efficient possessions on offense and stingy defense. They are a top ten defense in points allowed, nearly top 25 in margin of victory, they don't allow opponents to get rebounds, and they'll look for the upset here.

These teams split during the regular season, and in the game NDSU lost on the road, they won the first half but went dead-ass cold in the second, shooting 25% and letting SDSU shoot 57%. Odds of that happening again?

I say toss-up, with the Jackrabbits as the safe pick, as they have the star to lean on when the spotlight shines... but don't be surprised if the Bison pull it off.

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Up for this afternoon/veritas.
Mar 12th 2013
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Guy doesn't mention Julian Norfleet's injury for MSM
Mar 12th 2013
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frank hasnt seen 1 second of either one of those teams
Mar 12th 2013
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maybe....i'm not seeing how SDState is substantially better on paper
Mar 12th 2013
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      South Dakota State has a stud and sexy offensive efficiency.
Mar 12th 2013
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Didn't realize Norfleet was a definite out.
Mar 12th 2013
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      Norfleet isn't 100% out, but it's looking exceedingly likely
Mar 12th 2013
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are you bored?
Mar 12th 2013
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March Madness is my season.
Mar 12th 2013
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      you should write a movie about it
Mar 12th 2013
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Big East tournament kicking off.. South Florida vs Seton Hall
Mar 12th 2013
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Norfleet playing! balling (and fouling) early...
Mar 12th 2013
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Pretty amazing that he played if his ankle is how they described it.
Mar 12th 2013
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      for some reason the fucking conference doesnt want him to.
Mar 12th 2013
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LIU is running these boys out of the gym
Mar 12th 2013
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LMAO @ both the awesome South Dakota State mascot and...
Mar 12th 2013
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just like the cameroon crazies
Mar 12th 2013
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fyi the other game is better
Mar 12th 2013
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      Other game doesn't have Wolters putting on a goddamn clinic.
Mar 12th 2013
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           Cmon, how often does Cere get to see a team named the Raiders win?
Mar 12th 2013
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           i feel like this league used to be stronger.
Mar 12th 2013
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                When UWM is down, the league is down
Mar 12th 2013
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                     this game got ugly
Mar 12th 2013
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                          Yeah, both teams are making way too many preventable mistakes
Mar 12th 2013
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                               wright state had it, blew it
Mar 12th 2013
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                                    Disagree, Valpo can win in the tourney
Mar 12th 2013
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                                         Maybe not, but they turn it over a LOT.
Mar 12th 2013
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           you should just marry him
Mar 12th 2013
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                The hell? Are you tracking my utilities bills?
Mar 12th 2013
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Sweet Lutheran Christ Valpo is pissing this game away
Mar 12th 2013
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It's a dog fight now. 4 mins to go!
Mar 12th 2013
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      Okay, now I'm watching, lol.
Mar 12th 2013
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Goddamn, I said Valpo would turn it over, but Christ. 25?!
Mar 12th 2013
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They really don't deserve to win
Mar 12th 2013
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Okay, props to Valpo for winning
Mar 12th 2013
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A lot of teams are a conferences 'best shot' at winning a tourney
Mar 13th 2013
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      losing your best program (Butler) will do that...
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1. "Up for this afternoon/veritas."
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2. "Guy doesn't mention Julian Norfleet's injury for MSM"
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or talk about Taylor Braun for ND State...

SD State dogwalked ND State at home in January when Braun didn't play.

Lost to them on the road in a close one in December, when Braun played but wasn't super effective.

Since returning to a starter's role, Braun has put up 22 and 27, and 14 last night, despite 3-11 shooting. The guy gets to the line a lot, and shoots well when he's there.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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3. "frank hasnt seen 1 second of either one of those teams"
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4. "maybe....i'm not seeing how SDState is substantially better on paper"
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either.

ND State has lost 8 games. 5 of those were without their best player and 2 of them were to Big 10 tournament likely teams (Indiana and Minne) on the road.

I guess SD State looks a lot better if you don't account for ND State's best player missing 10 games with a foot injury.

But he's back...and apparently mostly effective...so it looks pretty even to me.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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6. "South Dakota State has a stud and sexy offensive efficiency."
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It's easy to be taken by what they do with the ball in their hands.

It's admittedly hard to read partial-season adjusted statistics and efficiencies for a team I haven't personally watched. It's even hard when I have watched them: I know Duke is far more efficient on both ends with Kelly, but I have no clue on paper how they rank with him on the court.

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5. "Didn't realize Norfleet was a definite out."
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All I knew was that he left. Was it that ugly? I guess it must've been if he's a definite no-go in a game for a tourney bid. Let's hope you didn't take MSM then.

To answer Ceej's question, no, I haven't seen NDSU play, but I have seen SDSU play and the NDSU style (on paper) is totally the type to give the Jackrabbits fits. A missing piece in their loss makes sense, as doing so poorly on offense AND defense for a whole half is a pretty big statistical anomaly from their usual output.

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7. "Norfleet isn't 100% out, but it's looking exceedingly likely"
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I took MSM before the tourney started, so I'm kind of stuck with 'em, but I've got hedge opportunities if I want them. I'll probably decide this afternoon.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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8. "are you bored?"
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sure posting a lot.

  

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9. "March Madness is my season."
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I watch countless hours of college hoops all leading to this.

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15. "you should write a movie about it"
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10. "Big East tournament kicking off.. South Florida vs Seton Hall"
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They just finished showing 30 years worth of Big East highlights. Wow..

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11. "Norfleet playing! balling (and fouling) early..."
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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12. "Pretty amazing that he played if his ankle is how they described it."
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13. "for some reason the fucking conference doesnt want him to."
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Apparently. Olouseware and LIU are playing great but this officiating is a fucking joke

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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14. "LIU is running these boys out of the gym"
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16. "LMAO @ both the awesome South Dakota State mascot and..."
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... their super insane fans, who are never not screaming jumping and embracing other with their tongues out. Ever.

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17. "just like the cameroon crazies"
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18. "fyi the other game is better"
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19. "Other game doesn't have Wolters putting on a goddamn clinic."
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I'm way more entertained by this.

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21. "Cmon, how often does Cere get to see a team named the Raiders win?"
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But stop sleeping on the Horizon League.

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24. "i feel like this league used to be stronger."
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25. "When UWM is down, the league is down"
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This is no surprise

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27. "this game got ugly"
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the 'comeback' was good but now nobody wants to win.

  

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29. "Yeah, both teams are making way too many preventable mistakes"
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31. "wright state had it, blew it"
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but neither team was going to win in the tourney

  

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33. "Disagree, Valpo can win in the tourney"
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It's going to depend on their draw obviously, but they don't normally turn the ball over like this.

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35. "Maybe not, but they turn it over a LOT."
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Only one team in the tourney (WKU) averages more TOs per possession. Villanova is the only other that could sneak in.

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23. "you should just marry him"
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because of that game you watched without having cable somehow before.

  

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34. "The hell? Are you tracking my utilities bills?"
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I had cable. I just switched cable services a couple weeks or so ago and couldn't get my WatchESPN app to work after. Which is why I asked about that twice on Facebook. Which somehow creepily stuck in your brain.

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20. "Sweet Lutheran Christ Valpo is pissing this game away"
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22. "It's a dog fight now. 4 mins to go!"
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26. "Okay, now I'm watching, lol."
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28. "Goddamn, I said Valpo would turn it over, but Christ. 25?!"
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30. "They really don't deserve to win"
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They have been so much better than this all year.

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32. "Okay, props to Valpo for winning"
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First NCAA tourney berth since joining the conference. Also, they've got the best shot of winning a game in the NCAA's of anyone in this conference.

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36. "A lot of teams are a conferences 'best shot' at winning a tourney"
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but it just seems like Horizon has fallen below mid-major status. It'd be a big upset if Valpo wins a game.

  

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37. "losing your best program (Butler) will do that..."
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>but it just seems like Horizon has fallen below mid-major
>status. It'd be a big upset if Valpo wins a game.

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