To be 1st Team All NBA

Moreso Tony Parker over CP3 than Harden over Bean

But

Harden could just as well be on that 1st team...

His numbers are just as good as Bean's and he's the sole reason why his team is overachieving vs Kobe's numbers which haven't meant much in what has been a disappointing season thus far for the Lakers...and Harden's squad has a better record and currently has the 8th playoff spot.

I know the sexy choice is for Paul and Kobe to make 1st team

But

If we're being honest, Harden and Parker are more deserving (at this point)

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Lebron/Durant

and

Mofo Timmy D just for his outstanding defense this year alone

I like David Lee and he's had a GREAT season

But

I do tend to believe his numbers are a tad bit inflated on a GS team that is mostly all offense.

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Facet of the gm

Chandler will probably be 3rd team ALL-NBA

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

Of your favorite team's disastrous season when you and other laker stans were sure LA would be serious championship contenders this season

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

their numbers are pretty much identical across the board in points, rebounds, assists and turnovers. except harden is a much more efficient scorer and has a better team with less surrounding talent. neither of them are top-notch defenders, but harden gets more steals.

1st team ALL NBA, it's going to come down to who gets that last playoff spot

Even though if Harden and the Rockets don't get the 8th spot they still will have had a surprisingly good season whereas Kobe and the Lakers making the 8th spot is not impressive.

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higher O-rating, higher TS%, higher eFG%, higher points per shot, and more FT attempts per minute.


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>higher O-rating, higher TS%, higher eFG%, higher points per
>shot, and more FT attempts per minute.

Do you all throw all of that out the window when you want to prop up a shitty player that you like?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

http://lahoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/kobe-xray.jpg

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>Do you all throw all of that out the window when you want to
>prop up a shitty player that you like?

the ed davis level statistical analysis was mysteriously lacking when houston acquired thomas robinson
here's a hint why:http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/robinth01.html#advanced::none

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look at robinson's rebound rates, man. he's top 15 in the league in o-boards and top 20 overall. if he gets tick, he's going to rebound well.

t-rob's scoring efficiency has been awful, but he also played limited minutes on a disastrous team. even his free throw percentage went down significantly from his junior year at kansas, which is inexplicable. but in houston, he's going to be asked to do the same things that greg smith and donatas are doing -- setting picks and diving to the basket. those guys aren't more talented than robinson. besides, bringing up metrics in this situation is weird and pointless: we're talking about a rookie top-five pick who didn't get much tick. it's about his potential, not what he's been doing thus far.

even the part about you guys shifting the focus entirely to potential given his shitty metrics (lol)
i call those type of adjustments the "big picture" rebuttal
his only conceivable attribute right now is rebounding, which is some what redundant with asik being a beast down there and considering the fact u dumped an ok 23 yr old rebounder and a developing 23 yr old stretch PF that might fit the system better than trob
good effort tho

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they dumped scraps for a top five pick and a much more valuable trade chip. i'm mentioning robinson's rebounding rates because you wanted to talk metrics. and they're indicative of an ability to be a very good rebounder (and the rockets are very soft in that department besides asik and smith). in houston's PNR offensive all the bigs are efficient scorers, so i'm suspecting robinson will improve there.

i don't know why you're being so myopic. the robinson deal was about potential and acquiring someone who was undervalued.

>i don't know why you're being so myopic. the robinson deal was
>about potential and acquiring someone who was undervalued.


u gave up young contributors for someone that couldn't take minutes away from the almighty jason thompson and chuch hayes
i get it
trob could very well be the next amare, or he could be a guy that's undersized and struggles to score and defend against NBA length
but we both agree that he'll probably hit the ground running gobbling up lin bricks

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but you do know this is what morey does, right? he turns junk into commodities and trades it for something better. i mean, TONEY DOUGLAS!

like i said i'm not even hating
but yall are getting kind of reckless with narratives in this piece
just trying to put things in perspective while telling the truth, ya know
i'm sure trob will put up 14 and 8 in his houston debut and u'll have the opportunity to nut in ur own mouth
no worries

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why?

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if robinson does nothing and ppat turns into larry bird, he'll have a fantastic agenda to promote

what's the problem now
guess u can't have enough developmental forwards on the team huh
i'm not sure how trob meshes with the plan of scooping josh in the offseason
but u already covered that with the 'well he could be a good trade chip' angle
no hate

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part of the reason miami and okc are among the best in the league right now is they have mvps who can play in either spot.

it was what was so exciting about the melo at the 4 movement in the beginning of the year in nyc.

indiana is a threat because it has great size and depth when everyone is healthy. it's why memphis was able to surprise in the past in the playoffs.

dallas wasn't a contender until they shored up the 5 and dirk played a little bit more intentional in the post and on the wing.

the lakers and san antonio haven't had post season like they expect in the past because of not having answers for forwards and centers. and depth period in l.a.'s case.

asik, jeff/millsap/smith, trob, and donatas seems like a pretty typical rotation for a playoff team. potentially subpar if the prospects pan out.

healtyhoward, asik + trob/donatas with mad development could be a contending post rotation if he gets lucky.

another young tweener pf. When they already just drafted 2 other power forwards in the same draft. And have last years top pick playing his first year who is also a power forward.

Lol

This is some genius shit.

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lol
shits bout to be the best move ever or a fucking disastrous
my only thing is why are these dudes spinning the fuck out of it like it's not a suspect wishing on a star ass move

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http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8970449/the-trade-deadline-exchange-part-1

or hoping you can have enough pieces to trade for someone and hoping they stick.

It worked with Harden.
I guess it kinda worked with Asik. But they're looking for another Center.
And its TBD on Lin.

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Patrick Patterson is about as much of a 'starting power-forward' as Spencer Hawes is a 'starting center'.

Dude gets less boards a game than their two-guard while playing the four-spot.

He's a rotation swing that they weren't gonna pay this offseason when he's coming up for a deal that they just traded for the chance at either developing the fifth-pick in this year's draft early after getting him off a trainwreck franchise or will use in a deal that will yield something Patrick Patterson never would have.

Only someone as unable to be objective about UK players as you or as stuck 'on-message' on SPM's flailing about every Morey move since Harden (which is already an L) could think otherwise.

The only way Sac could spin making this move was for monetary reasons & it doesn't even really make much difference there either.

hence semi-productive.

But he does score, shoot a good percentage, and spreads the floor to open it up for Harden and Lin to drive.

So excuse me, if I'm not blown away by the blockbuster trade of landing Thomas Robinson to lot of grooming power forwards on the Rockets roster.

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>hence semi-productive.
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>But he does score, shoot a good percentage, and spreads the
>floor to open it up for Harden and Lin to drive.
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LOL @ Patterson 'spreading the floor'.

>So excuse me, if I'm not blown away by the blockbuster trade
>of landing Thomas Robinson to lot of grooming power forwards
>on the Rockets roster.

Shooting well over 50% as a jumpshooting pf.

Don't know why this makes you mad, but if you want we can talk about it.

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the Rockets 'spread the floor' with drives & threes on drive-and-kicks.

I'm sure they'll manage to survive long-term without giving Patterson a long-term deal to make 9 or 10 threes a year or knock down a few elbow jumpers.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pattepa01/shooting/2013/

I didn't say everything opened up because of him. But someone has to hit on the drive and kicks.

He was ONE OF THE GUYS hitting.

Dude, I see I'm done here. Thanks.

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and really nothing we're saying is even unreasonable or hating
unless u're overly optimistic and declare shit a genius move they coming for that neck

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which is why you're the only two people who seem to think this wasn't a trade worth doing.

a good trade.

And you still keep coming back to the basic point that I'm a UK fan.

Which has nothing to do with my view of this trade.

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>Which has nothing to do with my view of this trade.

nigga said "o wow" @ project pat a 23 yr old that looks like a serviceable starting PF worst case scenario
and in the same thread is talking about the potential of a dude who couldn't get tick on a shitty team beggin for help despite being the #5 pick

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in regards to Thomas Robinson.

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there is nobody in the world that wouldn't have taken that deal from a Rockets perspective except Wildcat fans or an agenda-mad SPM.

You act like I have real stakes in this.

They didn't send P-Patt out the league.

I don't care where P-Patt plays. Now he's playing with Boogie and Chuck. So I don't have to watch the Rockets.

Point is this trade is a lateral move at best.

And Thomas Robinson is a tweener pf who might be Bo Outlaw one day.

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You need a pf that can play now so you can make a run at the playoffs.

And you need more help at other spots. A backup wing, because Parsons gets nicked up.

Backup pg too.

And more importantly, I really don't think T-Rob is good. Not to mention I don't like him.

I think Terrence Jones will be a better pro.

And I think Royce is a better pro. And I hate him more than I hate T-Rob.

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>You need a pf that can play now so you can make a run at the
>playoffs.
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>And you need more help at other spots. A backup wing, because
>Parsons gets nicked up.
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ur an 8th seed with no 1st rounder this yr dumping productive players that fit ur system perfectly (morris shot 38% from 3 as a PF)
for a long term project PF (when u have several of those already) and an extra 6-8 mil in cap space to waste on josh smith...who btw also plays pf
have fun wit that

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cool.

in one breath they're talking bout his potential which is entirely based on the fact he could dunk in college (lol)
and in the next breath they're talking about dumping him as some valuable trade piece even though his salary is so low you ain't getting shit back 1 to 1
and.....according to them he just got traded for a bag of dildos
that being said i'm sure him and royce the 6'9 are going be going at IT in practice

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Wait til Royce pulls a machete out his locker cuz of a hard foul that happened 3 days earlier during a scrimmage that he's been thinking about every waking minute.

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Patterson wasn't coming back, Patterson is up for contract at season's end & him starting was part of the Rockets' problem just like the Sixers starting Hawes & Lavoy.

You trade him for a guy who's bigger, a better rebounder even in limited minutes, who happens to be in a shitshow team with a lame-duck city/coach/ownership group in his first few months in the league with a manageable rookie deal with a couple years left on it.

You can then: a) see if you can develop him with the help of your HOF power-forward coach or b) use him in a package in the offseason to get Dwight/Smith/whoever while you wouldn't have been able to with the other guy.

Either way, it's a win for the Rockets & at best the Kings saved a small slice of money that they'll likely fuck up somewhere else.

glad ur picking up the slack for guinness while he's on his lunch break tho

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>glad ur picking up the slack for guinness while he's on his
>lunch break tho

https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/306132427003285504/photo/1

T-Rob already has forgotten what Mchale showed him.

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i'd just show him rookie amare tapes.

screen. dive. dunk. do anything else, I pull you.

ok 23 yr old rebounder and a
>developing 23 yr old stretch PF that might fit the system
>better than trob
>good effort tho

no shade bro, but you CAN'T be watching the rockets. cause if you're talking ok rebounder, you're not talking marcus morris. he's only valuable shooting wide open 3's. he does *nothing* else. nothing.

patterson made himself into a nice stretch 4. did you see houston giving him an extension? him possibly starting long term?

so what did Morey do. employ a system that showcased his 4's, a guy with a dead career (toney the trigger) and made them more valuable than they likely are, to get back a) a #5 pick in the first year of his rookie deal who rebounds way better than any of the guys they let go. b) an expiring 6 mil contract c) a likely high 2nd round pick (where they got budinger and parsons) and open up space for the young bigs they've been developing, montejunas jones and smith.

I missed that one

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

my guy got hurt, so i'm out of PG warz for a while.

and that's a deflection if i've ever seen one.
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someone made an explicit claim that's very easy to verify using statistics and was wrong.

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