Darren Collison
Mike Conley
Jeremy Lin
Tony Parker
Greivis Vasquez

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

>Darren Collison
>Mike Conley
>Jeremy Lin
>Tony Parker
>Greivis Vasquez

Tony Parker
Mike Conley Jr
Jeremy Lin
Darren Collison
Greivis Vasquez
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Parker



Lin
Conley

Vasquez



Collison

Conley/Lin are interchangeable at this point.
Vasquez putting up decent number on an ass team.
Collison sucks.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

Im fine putting Grievis in Group B. Between him Lin, and Conley they all have different strengths and weaknesses. Conley may be the better player now, but has less upside.


>Parker
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>
>
>Lin
>Conley
>Vasquez
>
>
>
>Collison
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>Conley/Lin are interchangeable at this point.
>Vasquez putting up decent number on an ass team.
>Collison sucks.

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i really don't watch grevis play.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

why you think Lin has so much more "upside".

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

I'm hoping you are playing.

Career Games played

Collison - 267
Conley - 409
Lin - 120

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

seasons ago. We're talking about now. Lin has less nba experience than both conley and cololisson and he's still getting better. Are collison and conley?

You asked a dumb ass question and interjected age like it was the only relevant factor and came back with an even dumber retort.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

Tony is still tops
Conley is better than Lin
Greivis is a really good PG
Darren is Darren

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and Collison came in and balled out people were like "trade Chris Paul!"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

or spm.

i been getting ya'll clowns confused.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

he's mad right now because i ruined his dumb over reactive Lin thread

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you go from southphillyman to lowermeriongentleman and code switch to your smart persona--type out much longer responses.

Thats why I dont get into the same back and forths cause they all lead in the same circles. Its fun to sit back and watch you try and troll and get ruffled though.

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

simply to address multiple points, ain't really much deeper than that
u continually trying to psychoanalyze why i don't agree with u is cute though
not sure why it's so hard to accept the fact everyone doesn't agree with yall muhfuckers

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then that he would get benched for Livingston.
then that he would get benched for Douglas.

Ya'll niggas dumb and losing.

>he's mad right now because i ruined his dumb over reactive
>Lin thread

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

________________________________________
"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

you either said he'd be or he belongs in the d-league.

both were obviously wrong.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

these dudes moves goal posts so much it's honestly kind of hard to keep up at times
i said the toney douglas shit and still stand by that. him getting traded doesn't impact it either way since i argued that he was on the bench primarily because of the team(morey) commitment to lin

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All I'm seeing is how great he is compared to these sneaker fillers.

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not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4...

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collison/lin/vasquez alright but it's irrelevent if they're not leading winners.

it's obvious that he's the best in that group

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

did i say something that wasn't true? did i use caps?

>mike conley has a winning team and is way undervalued


but they'll continue hyping up a bunch of scrubby gunning losers...

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1. Tony Parker
2. Mike Conley
3. Jeremy Lin
4. Greivis Vasquez
5. Darren Collison

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

DC has had his chance at a starting gig. This is his 3rd season as a starter for a team. His first season he put up similar number to Lin's. Last year was a pretty bad year for him and he dropped off to 10 pts and under 5 assists. This year hes putting up similar numbers to Lin but lower pts, assist, and rebounding numbers.

Not to mention hes already ended up in Carlisle's doghouse and is on the bench to close a lot of games in favor of Mike James.

Jeremy has more upside, he's had more double doubles, bigger career highs and overall just bigger games. Collisons played more than double the games Jeremy Lin has and has 10 more double doubles and most of those came that year he subbed for CP3.

Collison is who we think he is at this point. Rarely do you see a player who starts 3 seasons playing 30 mpg avg similar numbers accrosss those 3 years and then suddeny take a jump.
Jeremy still has plenty of room to grow and is getting better even this season. Will he get there? We'll see but most logical people would agree.

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more efficient by every measure including the "advanced stats".

>DC has had his chance at a starting gig. This is his 3rd
>season as a starter for a team. His first season he put up
>similar number to Lin's. Last year was a pretty bad year for
>him and he dropped off to 10 pts and under 5 assists. This
>year hes putting up similar numbers to Lin but lower pts,
>assist, and rebounding numbers.
>
>Not to mention hes already ended up in Carlisle's doghouse and
>is on the bench to close a lot of games in favor of Mike
>James.

Oh you mean like when Lin was getting benched for Tony Douglas?

>Jeremy has more upside, he's had more double doubles, bigger
>career highs and overall just bigger games. Collisons played
>more than double the games Jeremy Lin has and has 10 more
>double doubles and most of those came that year he subbed for
>CP3.
>
>Collison is who we think he is at this point. Rarely do you
>see a player who starts 3 seasons playing 30 mpg avg similar
>numbers accrosss those 3 years and then suddeny take a jump.

You ever hear of a guy named Steve Nash?

>Jeremy still has plenty of room to grow and is getting better
>even this season. Will he get there? We'll see but most
>logical people would agree.

He's still wildly inconsistent and the numbers bear that out. Will he ever pull it all together? Who knows

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

>more efficient by every measure including the "advanced
>stats".
>

And thats fine, I agree Conley is 100% more steady. With Conley you pretty much know what youre gonna get night in night out and that can be good or bad, but I will say more often than not its good.


>>DC has had his chance at a starting gig. This is his 3rd
>>season as a starter for a team. His first season he put up
>>similar number to Lin's. Last year was a pretty bad year for
>>him and he dropped off to 10 pts and under 5 assists. This
>>year hes putting up similar numbers to Lin but lower pts,
>>assist, and rebounding numbers.
>>
>>Not to mention hes already ended up in Carlisle's doghouse
>and
>>is on the bench to close a lot of games in favor of Mike
>>James.
>
>Oh you mean like when Lin was getting benched for Tony
>Douglas?


When did Lin get benched again? He sat out a couple of 4th qtrs? Is that getting benched? Ive seen plenty of games this season alone where a coach rolls with whoever is playing well--especially if a bench unit brought a team back.


Lin was never close to getting benched the way Collison has been this season. The only place that narrative exists is right here on this board.


>
>>Jeremy has more upside, he's had more double doubles, bigger
>>career highs and overall just bigger games. Collisons played
>>more than double the games Jeremy Lin has and has 10 more
>>double doubles and most of those came that year he subbed
>for
>>CP3.
>>
>>Collison is who we think he is at this point. Rarely do you
>>see a player who starts 3 seasons playing 30 mpg avg similar
>>numbers accrosss those 3 years and then suddeny take a jump.
>
>You ever hear of a guy named Steve Nash?

A) I said rarely. and B) Nash didnt have 3 seasons of 30 mpg. It was 2 short bursts, then the first season he had more than 50 games started there was a big jump, and then going to phx led to another jump--but weve already see you in past years blame that on the D'antoni system when arguing against Nash's MVP--so we wont revisit that for you.



>
>>Jeremy still has plenty of room to grow and is getting
>better
>>even this season. Will he get there? We'll see but most
>>logical people would agree.
>
>He's still wildly inconsistent and the numbers bear that out.
>Will he ever pull it all together? Who knows

No argument from me here. I think he does put it together, but I can see how someone doesnt.

Right today though, he's a player that can put up big games--sometimes its better to have that home run hitter who might strike out rather than the guy whos just gonna slap singles around all day. It really depends on your situation

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remain the same

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

ol switcharoo ass mofo

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>ol switcharoo ass mofo

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

what you fail to mention about collison and conley, both guys I like, btw, are that they've had years of starting in the NBA. Not to mention been playing elite level basketball since college.

and thus far, 4 and 6 years in, they are what they are. and that's not bad.

Lin is an unknown. as I've stated, how bout you evaluate him fully all star break next year. after a full year where he sets a statistical baseline? after a full training camp w/ the new pieces?

I know we get all agenda-y and silly wit it, and that's fine, but it's too early to determine what Lin is off 60% of starts.

except for the fact that he doesn't suck. and isn't worth the money. that's pretty much done at this point.

NBA games as those guys, "because he's not that good", he looks halfway decent some games because Harden so good at penetrating and teams usually have to double off Lin to help and he gets a ton of wide open looks but he's still one of the least efficient starting pg's in the NBA. There are a hundred guys in the NBA, D-league and overseas that could put up 12&6 alongside Harden in the backcourt.

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I try to engage you in some thoughtful basketball dialogue then you go ham with that drunk 67 yr old uncle schtick. So before harden came if he was good its cause he has nobody else--now anything he gets is cause of Harden? You clearly aren't watching.

If I were to agree with you and say collison and Vasquez were better than lin--at the least it's still close and thats and there's also 100 guys in the nba and dleague just as good as them

>NBA games as those guys, "because he's not that good", he
>looks halfway decent some games because Harden so good at
>penetrating and teams usually have to double off Lin to help
>and he gets a ton of wide open looks but he's still one of the
>least efficient starting pg's in the NBA. There are a hundred
>guys in the NBA, D-league and overseas that could put up 12&6
>alongside Harden in the backcourt.

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

>NBA games as those guys, "because he's not that good",

his first nba season he was signed for marketing. he had a european/d-league skillset @ best.

year two he's cut for cap room, and if not for desperate need on D'Antoni's part, is out the league. then he's hurt.

now he starts. please don't make it seem as if he had EVERY opportunity to play and never got the chance cause he was bad. it's not true.


he
>looks halfway decent some games because Harden so good at
>penetrating and teams usually have to double off Lin to help
>and he gets a ton of wide open looks

there's no way you watch rocket games. no way.
here's how lin scores
transition @ the rim off of misses
transition @ the rim off of turnovers
off the dribble @ the rim in the halfcourt
foul shots
jumpshots

he's not paxon/kerr/armstrong/hornacek waiting on passes wide open. he's at the rim, off his dribble, constantly. there's no way you watch the games and come up with this "ton of wide open looks" bit.

but he's still one of the
>least efficient starting pg's in the NBA.

his first year as a starting pg
with a high usage 2g who he had no time w/ in training camp
a first year starter at C
a 2nd year starter @ SF
and the youngest team in the league.

what do fast paced young teams do? turn the ball over and be inefficient.

if that isn't a recipe for efficiency, I dunno what is. how do you breathe in the vacuum you create your arguments in?

There are a hundred
>guys in the NBA, D-league and overseas that could put up 12&6
>alongside Harden in the backcourt.

smh.

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

the logical fallacies on this board make my head hurt sometimes
how do you coalesce these 3 statements?


>his first nba season he was signed for marketing. he had a
>european/d-league skillset @ best.
>
>year two he's cut for cap room, and if not for desperate need
>on D'Antoni's part, is out the league. then he's hurt.
>
> please don't make it seem as if he had EVERY
>opportunity to play and never got the chance cause he was bad.
>it's not true.

then somehow attempt to use those contradictions to refute Truths point about him not getting minutes/games .....because he wasn't good enough?
the irony is you did that in a reply where your subject line suggested HE was intellectually dishonest
lol
and we're the ones trolling?
k

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>then somehow attempt to use those contradictions to refute
>Truths point about him not getting minutes/games .....because
>he wasn't good enough?
>the irony is you did that in a reply where your subject line
>suggested HE was intellectually dishonest
>lol
>and we're the ones trolling?
>k
>

in golden state he wasn't getting tick because he was behind curry, ellis, acie law, reggie williams, and charlie bell. unless he was the second coming he wasn't going to play.

don't confuse "good" with "ready."

Larry Bird referenced Lance Stephenson as being the pacer's best player. he didn't play a lot his first 2 years. Didn't mean he wasn't good enough. He just wasn't ready at the time.

Houston, Morey has stated how much he didn't want to let Lin go. He needed to for Dalembert.

Peep D'Antoni and his stubbornness. And the fact that Melo has to repeatedly campaign for Lin to play. Not a question of talent.

so there's never been a time where it's been determined "Jeremy we can't play you because you stink."

one place he wasn't ready and there was a logjam
one place had to let him go
one place the coach was a fucking idiot (and continues to be)

and now he's here about to make the playoffs in his first year in the L.

that clear it up for you?

u dudes really are the tea party

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>in golden state he wasn't getting tick because he was behind
>curry, ellis, acie law, reggie williams, and charlie bell.
>unless he was the second coming he wasn't going to play.

those last 3 dudes aren't even in the league any more, lol

That kinda supports my point that there are dudes in the D-league and overseas that could put up 12&6 like Lin if given the opportunity

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

depending on whether or not they like a guy
if a dude is horribly inefficient they either just completely bypass their core analysis method
or add hella qualifiers

i'm not going go as far as saying d leaguers would put up 12 and 6
but you'd certainly expect a player as good as they claimed Linsanity was to put up more than that on a team that plays at the pace the rockets do

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basically any starting PG getting 30+ minutes a night is going to do that especially playing with a scorer like Harden. Jarrett Jack is doing that off the bench with the Warriors.

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

>Jarrett Jack is doing that off the bench with the Warriors.


yooooooooo this shit true, bwhahahahaha

edit: damn jack actually shits on him overall...
http://www.thenbageek.com/players/compare?utf8=%E2%9C%93&player_ids[]=209&player_ids[]=95

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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he has his responses already ready to go. Rhetorical question ass mofo.

He asked us to rank these pgs and came up with his link with Collison as #1

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

>
but you make these posts asking a rhetorical question and your predetermined assumptions where youre trying to bait people into a certain answer based off the numbers.

I knew you werent saying Collison was better than TP, but you really want to put him in the same boat as the other guards? Have you been following this season at all besides box scores?

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

how dare you put him among those scrubs lol

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

Anyone who didn't put Tony atop their list is obviously delusional. Truth just wants to fight about Lin's placement.

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be careful...the Coalition might come for you
they damn near tore murph head off yesterday when he suggested lin wasn't worth 8 mil per
they're a fiery bunch

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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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