8. "Still early but: Kyrie" In response to Reply # 0 Wed Feb-06-13 08:31 PM by SoulHonky
Kyrie: I still think Waiters is a bad fit alongside and the rest of the team is garbage. We'll see if they can get some talent in their this offseason or next.
LaMarcus Aldridge: He shouldn't be a #1 guy. Batum and Lillard are nice but I'd love to see Aldridge play alongside some elite talent.
Ditto for Al Horford. (And no, playing alongside Iso Joe doesn't count.)
Seeing Favors and Drummond get more minutes will be fun next year but I'm interested in seeing what Milsap can do if he leaves. He'd be a nice fit in Houston.
14. "Nope Kyrie gotta create his own situation." In response to Reply # 8 Thu Feb-07-13 07:35 AM by subjctmattr
>Kyrie: I still think Waiters is a bad fit alongside and the >rest of the team is garbage. We'll see if they can get some >talent in their this offseason or next.
Give it some time. Give his management some time to build a squad around him. Cleveland should be HIS situation.
Now if after 3-5 years all they could give him is Dion Waiters...sort of like all they gave Bron was Larry Hughes...the he needs to go ahead and free himself on some ole Fantasia shit.
18. "Agreed." In response to Reply # 16 Thu Feb-07-13 09:22 AM by subjctmattr
If you gonna be the guy...you gotta be the guy.
I originally made the post for people who are nearing the end of their careers, can help a team win, but are busy wasting years in terrible situations.
23. "Sactown has proven they can't build a team" In response to Reply # 16
That franchise is a mess. I can see how Kyrie needs to wait a couple years until the Cavs obviously screw it up but it's readily apparent that Boogie is being wasted in Sacramento. Worst situation in the league right now.
29. "and Cleveland's proven otherwise?" In response to Reply # 23
>That franchise is a mess. I can see how Kyrie needs to wait a >couple years until the Cavs obviously screw it up but it's >readily apparent that Boogie is being wasted in Sacramento. >Worst situation in the league right now.
30. "New front office (but not a great start)" In response to Reply # 29
That's why I brought up Kyrie. I thought they reached on Tristan Thompson, made a bad choice with Waiters, and never should have given up picks to trade up for Zeller. But, to be fair, I guess we should give them one more offseason before saying Kyrie's doomed.
Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86672 posts
Thu Feb-07-13 12:38 PM
24. "This year's draft pick will be telling." In response to Reply # 14
I think Waiters was a bad pick for Kyrie's style of play, not to mention was considered a reach at the time. If they reach again or try to awkwardly mesh another guy who won't play Kyrie's brand of high-efficiency ball, then I'm fully on board for Fantasia status.
(Luckily, most of the guys available at the top of the board are high-efficiency, unlikely-to-miss guys. But still.)
17. "low key player wise, would like to see Will Bynum get consistent minutes" In response to Reply # 0
I feel like everytime he gets minutes if stuckey or knight are hurt he not only puts up serious #'s, detroit competes... every year he has stretches where he averages like 20 & 10 for a week or two then back to 4 min per game... Always felt the same way about Jarrett Jack and he finally got his opp to play heavy all year in New Orleans last year and played well
then again he could pull a Ramon Sessions, go to a winner and suck
Other guys like that... Jordan Crawford's stuck in a shit spot with Wash now, too many wing players, when he gets minutes he produces and is very clutch... PJ Carlesimo about to get choked out by Marshon Brooks for fucking with his minutes, Marcus Thornton should be gunning on a playoff team instead of rotting with Keith Smart, shit you could make an argument for half the kings team, Smart is the worst coach in the L. JJ Redick.
19. "GT's Final Four point guards still ballin" In response to Reply # 17
>I feel like everytime he gets minutes if stuckey or knight >are hurt he not only puts up serious #'s, detroit competes... >every year he has stretches where he averages like 20 & 10 for >a week or two then back to 4 min per game...
well see how JC fits but Will Bynum has been the best pg on the roster thus far. he can attack and finish off the bounce and he's never been afraid to take a big shot. thats why even tho we were down 20 to uconn in 2004, Will B was still trying to yam on emeka.
>Always felt the >same way about Jarrett Jack and he finally got his opp to play >heavy all year in New Orleans last year and played well
i wanted the pistons to draft him in 2005. he's got a chauncey billups body and i thought he could he could have done a quality pg internship under chauncey
The Wolves refuse to ask him to do the things he's good at and instead want him to play defense and shoot spot up jumpers. If he does ever go into attack mode and he misses 2 shots in a row, they sit him for the rest of the half.
Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86672 posts
Thu Feb-07-13 12:51 PM
26. "That's because he insisted on shooting spot-up jumpers." In response to Reply # 25
When he entered the draft, he told everyone he would play SF and be more of a jump-shooting tweener. And they drafted him regardless. Everyone is to blame in that clusterfuck.
28. "Eh, I'm getting at something a little different. " In response to Reply # 26
They use him like the Lakers use Artest or something. Williams actually has a pretty nice J, and is the 2nd best 3-point shooter on the team. I don't mind the jumpers on ball rotation and kick outs. I'm bothered because that's all they ask him to do, and when he does deviate from that they yank him. It's like he's not allowed to try to score or play aggressively. All I really want to see is for the staff to give Williams the freedom that they afford Shved and Barea, and for some reason they don't.
31. "Right now, he's a poor man's Jeff Green" In response to Reply # 25
Or Michael Beasley with a conscience.
I don't think he'll ever live up to his draft position and I agree with Frank that the style of play is what he wants and not necessarily the Wolves' fault.
32. "You think he wants 4 shots a game?" In response to Reply # 31
I'm not trying to say that he's a top 10 scorer or anything, but Adelman/ Porter literally run no offense for him. He gets as many plays run for him as Dante Cunningham. The only shots he takes are jumpers because he gets pulled if he tries doing something else. The only thing he's good for is the thing they don't ask him to do.
He's arbitration eligible after next year though, so the Marlins might look to unload him before they might actually have to pay him more than 2% of what he's worth.
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