Um. Them conditions? Um. I don't think that's gonna happen. The first and last sentence of this swipe are lol worthy.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/03/allen-iverson-divorce-custody-finalized/

Allen Iverson -- once considered the best player in the NBA -- is a terrible parent ... a horrible, irresponsible, pathetic excuse for a parent ... this according to an Atlanta family court judge.

Iverson just officially became a single man -- after the ATL judge signed off on his divorce from Tawanna Iverson ... the mother of his five children.

But in the final divorce decree, the judge UNLOADS on A.I. ... saying:

" does not know how to manage the children; has little interest in learning to manage the children and has actually, at times, been a hindrance to their spiritual and emotional growth and development.

For example, he has refused to attend to an obvious and serious alcohol problem, which has caused him to do inappropriate things in the presence of the children while impaired.

He has left the children alone without supervision. He has left his young daughters in a hotel room with men who are unknown to the mother."

The judge has awarded Tawanna legal and physical custody of the kids. Allen has some visitation rights ... but ONLY if he abides by certain conditions.

Among them ... Allen must NOT drink a drop of alcohol for the next 18 months. And there's more ... until all of his kids become adults , he can't consume alcohol within 24 hours of the times he has the kids.

He's also been ordered to see a shrink and attend AA meetings for a year.

We reached out to Allen for comment -- but he wasn't there for us when we needed him.

http://i.imgur.com/eFK8n1Z.jpg

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There are dozens of us! Dozens!

he overcame so much. it's gettin sad.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

I was hoping for at least one reasonable comeback effort for him, let him retire somewhere actually in the league. All this stuff I'm doing is just extra to poke at the agenda flames. Other than that, I really do feel for the guy.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

depression from the way the last few years of his career have gone. Hope he gets help fast.

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There are dozens of us! Dozens!

Would hate to see him in another 30 for 30

the judge is a clinical practitioner?
AI was coming to the hearings drunk or something?
lol
it's a divorce proceeding dumbass
the wife is going to bring as much dirt as possible
and the woman is going to get the benefit of the doubt the majority of the time as it pertains to custody
her lawyers used his rep against em to ensure their client receives x amount of dollars going forward
not mad, cheaper to keep her

on top of all that unless the mom is batshit crazy like wade ex
ain't a judge in america giving custody to a current or former nba player
u think kobe was getting them two girls if vanessa had left his ass?
u think shaq had a chance in hell of getting them kids from his square head ex wife?
its a reason why u got this shit from TMZ
now go head and call me mad or emotional or some other dumb shit
meanwhile yall weirdo niggas got RSS feeds set up to track the downfall of a man u don't know
shit just a lil sadistic and weird at this point especially since shit ain't got nutin to do with ball (or agendas) and the nigga been out the league for a minute now

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mofos kill me.

this shit ain't our business.

bottom line.

atleast they HIS kids, what's the judge's opinion on marino???

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Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

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what they do..

it's atcually all they do.

you clowning a judge for expressing his opinion in a case that was presented in his court room??? just because it's AI??

y'all on some crazy shit.

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Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

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the burden of proof is simply i believe her and not u
u think his ex wife had video evidence of him leaving his kids with men they didn't know?
u think the alleged men in those hotel rooms collaborated her story?
lol, cmon
she said it. he probably argued against it. they believed her
state the settlement and move on

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this case??

the judge just made that shit up?

wifey's side didn't have witnesses or testimony to present?

AI's kids ain't old enough to speak on what is happening in their family?

come on man..

I know this shit is probably hard for people to see AI fallin off....but instead of copping pleas with not even a toe stuck in reality or common sense...we honestly should just be wishing dude the best...

Included tons of depositions, court-ordered counseling, a contempt charge...

http://www.fcclkjudicialsearch.org/judicialsearch/CivilSearch/civfrmd.htm

In the SUPERIOR COURT
Fulton County, Georgia
Case No. 2011CV201925

TAWANNA N. IVERSON VS. ALLEN E. IVERSON

Filed on 06/13/2011
Case Type: DIVORCE WITH CHILDREN
Judge: Bensonetta Tipton Lane
Current Status: Disposed
Disposition: 01/22/2013 - FINAL JUDGMENT & DECREE

Defendant
Defendant Attorneys
Iverson, Allen E Thompson, Melanie D Fenwiek
2386 CLOVER STREET SUITE F 201
SNELLVILLE, GA 30078

Plaintiff
Plaintiff Attorneys
Iverson, Tawanna N Mayoue, John C
5229 ROSWELL ROAD
Atlanta, GA 30342

Hearings
07/14/2011 Thursday 11:00am Domestic Relations 30-Day Scheduling Conference
08/16/2011 Tuesday 1:30pm Domestic Relations 60-Day Status Conference
10/05/2011 Wednesday 9:30am Domestic Relations 60-Day Status Conference
07/19/2012 Thursday 10:00am Domestic Relations 60-Day Status Conference
08/27/2012 Monday 9:30am DOMESTIC RELATIONS TRIAL
10/04/2012 Thursday 9:30am DOMESTIC STATUS CONFERENCE
10/30/2012 Tuesday 9:30am DOMESTIC RELATIONS TRIAL
12/03/2012 Monday 9:30am DOMESTIC RELATIONS TRIAL
01/14/2013 Monday 9:30am DOMESTIC RELATIONS TRIAL

Events and Orders of the Court
01/30/2013 LEAVE OF ABSENCE
01/22/2013 ORDER
01/22/2013 FINAL JUDGMENT & DECREE
01/15/2013 MOTION
01/15/2013 RESPONSE
01/14/2013 CERTIFICATE
01/14/2013 DEPOSITION
01/14/2013 AFFIDAVIT
01/14/2013 ENTRY/NOTICE OF APPEARANCE
01/14/2013 OTHER
01/14/2013 AFFIDAVIT
01/14/2013 NOTICE
01/14/2013 OTHER
01/11/2013 AMENDMENT
01/11/2013 RESPONSE
01/11/2013 RESPONSE
01/11/2013 MOTION
01/11/2013 MOTION
01/09/2013 DEPOSITION
01/09/2013 MOTION
01/09/2013 NOTICE
01/09/2013 AMENDMENT
01/09/2013 DEMAND FOR JURY
01/09/2013 ANSWER
01/09/2013 LEAVE OF ABSENCE
01/09/2013 REQUEST
01/09/2013 CERTIFICATE
01/09/2013 MOTION
01/08/2013 CERTIFICATE
01/08/2013 NOTICE
12/31/2012 ORDER
12/31/2012 ORDER
12/31/2012 RESPONSE
12/26/2012 MOTION
12/21/2012 NOTICE
12/20/2012 MOTION
12/20/2012 OTHER
12/07/2012 ORDER
12/03/2012 MOTION TO COMPEL
12/03/2012 AFFIDAVIT
12/03/2012 NOTICE
12/03/2012 NOTICE OF DEPOSITION
11/30/2012 DEPOSITION
11/30/2012 NOTICE
11/30/2012 REQUEST
11/30/2012 ORDER
11/26/2012 RESPONSE
11/21/2012 NOTICE OF DEPOSITION
11/21/2012 NOTICE OF DEPOSITION
11/21/2012 RESPONSE
11/19/2012 LEAVE OF ABSENCE
11/19/2012 REQUEST
11/19/2012 DOMESTIC RELATIONS FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT (INDEXED AND NOT SCANNED)
11/19/2012 CHILD SUPPORT WORKSHEET PURSUANT TO CODE SECTION 10-1-393.7, (INDEXED AND NOT SCANNED)
11/19/2012 MOTION
11/19/2012 MOTION
11/15/2012 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
11/15/2012 ORDER
11/14/2012 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
11/13/2012 CERTIFICATE
11/09/2012 MOTION
11/06/2012 PETITION
11/02/2012 CERTIFICATE
11/02/2012 NOTICE OF DEPOSITION
11/01/2012 NOTICE OF SUBSTITUTION OF COUNSEL
11/01/2012 CERTIFICATE
10/29/2012 ENTRY/NOTICE OF APPEARANCE
10/29/2012 ORDER
10/23/2012 ORDER
10/22/2012 RESPONSE
10/22/2012 ORDER
10/22/2012 ORDER
10/15/2012 CERTIFICATE
10/15/2012 REQUEST
10/12/2012 RESPONSE
10/09/2012 NOTICE
10/09/2012 MOTION
10/08/2012 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
10/05/2012 MOTION
10/04/2012 ORDER
10/04/2012 RESPONSE
10/04/2012 CONTEMPT
10/02/2012 ORDER
10/01/2012 CERTIFICATE
09/28/2012 MOTION
09/24/2012 CERTIFICATE
09/24/2012 APPLICATION
09/19/2012 APPLICATION
09/04/2012 ORDER
08/31/2012 RESPONSE
08/31/2012 CERTIFICATE
08/31/2012 AMENDMENT
08/30/2012 NOTICE OF DEPOSITION
08/24/2012 MOTION
08/20/2012 NOTICE
08/20/2012 NOTICE
08/17/2012 CERTIFICATE
08/13/2012 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
08/10/2012 NOTICE OF DEPOSITION
08/10/2012 NOTICE OF DEPOSITION
08/10/2012 NOTICE OF DEPOSITION
08/10/2012 NOTICE OF DEPOSITION
08/10/2012 NOTICE OF DEPOSITION
08/10/2012 NOTICE
08/08/2012 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
08/08/2012 CERTIFICATE
08/06/2012 CERTIFICATE
08/01/2012 CERTIFICATE
08/01/2012 ORDER
07/09/2012 RESPONSE
06/29/2012 MOTION
06/29/2012 MOTION
06/18/2012 LEAVE OF ABSENCE
06/13/2012 RULE NISI
06/01/2012 RESPONSE
05/29/2012 RESPONSE
05/21/2012 CONTEMPT
05/17/2012 RESPONSE
05/07/2012 CONSENT ORDER
04/23/2012 BRIEF
04/23/2012 MOTION
04/17/2012 LEAVE OF ABSENCE
04/04/2012 RESPONSE
03/22/2012 MOTION TO DISMISS
03/07/2012 MOTION
02/23/2012 LEAVE OF ABSENCE
02/02/2012 OTHER
01/09/2012 ENTRY/NOTICE OF APPEARANCE
12/19/2011 CERTIFICATE
12/01/2011 CERTIFICATE
10/26/2011 LEAVE OF ABSENCE
10/26/2011 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
10/20/2011 LEAVE OF ABSENCE
10/18/2011 CERTIFICATE
10/07/2011 CERTIFICATE
10/05/2011 REQUEST
10/05/2011 NOTICE
10/05/2011 REQUEST
09/30/2011 CERTIFICATE
09/30/2011 CERTIFICATE
09/26/2011 LEAVE OF ABSENCE
09/26/2011 ENTRY/NOTICE OF APPEARANCE
09/26/2011 RESPONSE
09/21/2011 ORDER TO ATTEND 60 DAY STATUS CONFERENCE
09/20/2011 CONSENT ORDER
09/15/2011 CERTIFICATE
09/09/2011 ORDER
09/02/2011 CERTIFICATE
08/29/2011 CERTIFICATE
08/26/2011 MOTION
08/16/2011 AMENDMENT
08/03/2011 ANSWER
07/28/2011 MOTION
07/28/2011 LEAVE OF ABSENCE
07/21/2011 CERTIFICATE
07/15/2011 ORDER TO ATTEND 60 DAY STATUS CONFERENCE
07/15/2011 ORDER TO ATTEND 120 DAY STATUS CONFERENCE
07/14/2011 REQUEST
07/13/2011 AFFIDAVIT
06/20/2011 ENTRY/NOTICE OF APPEARANCE
06/13/2011 STANDING ORDER
06/13/2011 CASE INITIATION FORM
06/13/2011 HEARING ADDED
06/13/2011 PLAINTIFF'S ORIGINAL PETITION

The judge: http://www.fultoncourt.org/judges/viewjudge.php?id=9

was drawn out and required multiple petitions?!?!
lol, i'ma let yall weirdos cook though
the fact you felt the need to even google that shit shows where it's at with some of you

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>where it's at with some of you

I have no feelings on AI either way, except to wish him the best.

Instead you're attacking posters on a sports message board.

<--- Big Baller World Order

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Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

DROkayplayer™

click my muthafuckin dick bitch.

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Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

DROkayplayer™

If so *click*

And personally, it's very sad to me, and parts of your argument I agree with. I doubt if he was THAT terrible of a parent, and I think some of that is his ex being over-emotional in the courtroom.

BUT

When Zeke was called a bad-dad, this board PILED on, cracked NUMEROUS jokes...it's AI's turn now. Only thing that makes this unfortunate is the alcohol problem (which I don't believe fully, otherwise that would have been reported WAY BEFORE a divorce proceeding)

it's just pathetically sad.

____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

with either of those agendas
i don't even know anything bout zeke relationships with his kids outside the fact his supposed suicide attempt was linked to one of them in some way
and i ain't clown that shit
i did clown that sexual harassment lawsuit cause that occurred in the scope of NBA activity and was actually relevant to a franchise's dealings

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I hate when my heroes let me down too.

So you're saying you've never seen one of your parents act inappropriate under the influence of alcohol

c'mon

leaving his children with people unknown to the mother, doesn't really sound like a valid complaint

how old are his kids now

if we're talking about infants, I might be concerned

but I think his kids are closer to teenagers by now

I think they should be able to be left alone

but great reporting by TMZ

and everything SPM said above

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If you can't understand it without an explanation

you can't understand it with an explanation

If it was anyone other than AI, cats wouldn't be this emotional
But because it IS AI, cats want to say this shouldn't be on the board.

This has been done with NUMEROUS sports figures...it's news BECAUSE it's AI

>So you're saying you've never seen one of your parents act
>inappropriate under the influence of alcohol
I haven't

got deleted

Bomb actually posted it in GD, where this will probably get the attention you're looking for

"it's news"

I'm saying it's not news

I've seen my parents act inappropriate (kind of an arbitrary word for a court proceeding) while under the influence of alcohol

and it is far from an indication of them as parents

if you haven't

I'd guess you don't spend enough time with your parents, they don't party, or something like that

I looked up his kids' ages

I think his oldest is 17 Y.O.

is a 17 Y.O. being left alone or with people her mother doesn't know news?

without specifics

like an account of the individual incidents

establishing a history, etc...(whether alcoholic or parental wise)

this reads like shock journalism

and I question the motive for it being posted

.

she chose the person with whom to make babies with

that doesn't give you license to chose what kind of person that person should be

IMO

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^^^^^exactly ...

nothing else to be said

as far as all that extra stuff, there's a lot more that we don't know than what we do know, so I'm not going to jump to any conclusions about him based off a snippet from TMZ. And let's not kid ourselves, I don't think anyone figured Bubba to be the type of father that comes home to his wife and kids every night, plays some catch in the backyard and falls asleep watching TV. So none of this should be shocking. At least he had all five kids with one woman, that's more than a lot of athletes can say.


>Um. Them conditions? Um. I don't think that's gonna happen.
>The first and last sentence of this swipe are lol worthy.

>
>We reached out to Allen for comment -- but he wasn't there for
>us when we needed him.
>
>
Thats funny because AI didn't give a statement to TMZ about his divorce and custody ruling? And they make a snarky remark about it?

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first: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8rjb3rteY1qa7gyjo2_250.gif

- everyone gets the bad dad treatment @ OKS. jason caffey, scott skiles, travis henry, zeke. Let's not act brand new.

- I coulda folded into the D-League post, or stated how his possible alcohol issues might be what's keeping him out the league. I made a bad dad post.

- this judge, and the words "bad, dad, and iverson" are going to go viral. Now either the judge wanted some shine and overstepped like shit, which leaves iverson's team fantastic grounds for appeal, or between the law guardian for the kids, a likely forensic psychology exam of all parties, and witness testimony, there was enough merit the conditions set. that's a huge risk to take on the judge's behalf, unless there's something concrete.

- Allen Iverson ain't broke, as #TeamGOAT loves to shout from the rooftops. So either he hired mike tyson's rape case attorney, which is dumb, or doesn't have the paper for proper representation, there's no way his shit should be in the street like this, whether it be fabricated or justified.

- and I found the first line funny cause who ever thought AI was the best player in the league during his career. That's TMZ getting MVP fucked up with best player, AND their last line was just petty and shitty, which are things that make me laugh.

>
>- Allen Iverson ain't broke, as #TeamGOAT loves to shout from
>the rooftops. So either he hired mike tyson's rape case
>attorney, which is dumb, or doesn't have the paper for proper
>representation, there's no way his shit should be in the
>street like this, whether it be fabricated or justified.
>

or he had well paid people that argued on his behalf.

there's a reason Wade and Usher have their kids, and millions of Dads don't.

so if the issue is "the mother set him up to look bad" then it's in his teams best interest to counter that, so a restrictive custody order like this can't be put in place.

so either he hired bad representation. OR he didn't have enough coin to get people to do the job right.

clear?

exempt from TMZ reports & lawyers leaking information or accusations from divorce proceedings when that happens to billionaires.

LOL @ the horrible OJ analogy or the citing of a couple of the only major examples of male celebrities who've won custody (both with women who had a history of instability) as if every other man who didn't just didn't have enough scratch.

money's made a shit ton of things go away.

wow that Cruise-Holmes thing sure did get put to rest quick, didn't it?

If done right, it doesn't get like this. and yeah your biz might be in the streets, sometimes that's unavoidable.

but if you need to be alcohol free for 18 months, and not have a drink within 24 hours of seeing any of your kids til 18, either the judge has overreached and is super biased, which is grounds for appeal, your representation let you get railroaded, your fault for picking the wrong people or not being able to pay the right ones....

or you might just be super fucked up, which is why you're likely to never again play in the NBA.

you're confusing money with being WHITE

all that has to do with being WHITE

your eagle fandom is easily the worst part of your humanity.

I was saying I'd rather be your bad dad of analogies and false equivalencies, than to be a bad father to my own children.

apologies if it came across that way. not my style at all.

or the citing of a couple of the
>only major examples of male celebrities who've won custody
>(both with women who had a history of instability) as if every
>other man who didn't just didn't have enough scratch.

I just made a Bad Dad post. If it was Korleone Young, I doubt anyone would give a shit.

That said, the larger issue of father's rights, court, bias, finances? Not for this board, and definitely not on a sunday.

> or the citing of a couple of the
>>only major examples of male celebrities who've won custody
>>(both with women who had a history of instability) as if
>every
>>other man who didn't just didn't have enough scratch.
>
>I just made a Bad Dad post. If it was Korleone Young, I doubt
>anyone would give a shit.
>
>That said, the larger issue of father's rights, court, bias,
>finances? Not for this board, and definitely not on a sunday.
>

it has nothing to do with basketball

alot of what you're using to prop up your argument is not what you posted

you posted a TMZ report

what's more

you posted it on SB Sunday

the biggest sports day in the US

it comes off like an agenda

sort of like the deer antler story breaking during SB week

that AI scar must have cut deep into your soul

especially with is name being in actual basketball convo this week

as you are well aware

you should have posted this in there

I guess you can't have enough AI dogpile posts on OKaySports

party on Wayne

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you can't understand it with an explanation

I saw AI in a nike all america game in 93 or 94.
followed him and the bar fight situation.
watched him in gtown w/ the concords.
cool when he crossed jordan
even cooler when he stepped over tyronn lue like he was dog shit

and since then?
I really havent given a fuck about dude. check all the iverson/kobe agenda posts. not me, jack. don't give a fuck.

i came across it in my sunday morning news reading. OKS has a running theme of bad dads. I posted it. It also may shine a light as to why he's not in the league.

other than that, mean's jack shit to me, B.

your post and # of replies says otherwise

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Hope he gets better.

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"People that need positivity around them all the time are weak individuals in my book" - @lilduval

his continuing to fall would disturb me as much as any other superstar's fall...probably more..

real talk.

On a different note, LOL @ some of the dudes in here suddenly wanting to contain OKS to only on-court stuff.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

>On a different note, LOL @ some of the dudes in here suddenly
>wanting to contain OKS to only on-court stuff.

Not to mentik n Bird, Zeke, Mailman. ... Im sure top 5 Tony's situation was spoken on. Off coury shit is fair game and always has been. Lol@southphillystan being all emo about this.

Is a court awarding custody to the mother news though?

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You gotta understand, AI was SPM's nigga...I hardly ever saw that muhfucka talk about ANYONE ELSE for my first 3 years posting on this board. he been fucked up since AI fell off.

Shit, I got mad when niggas tried to say Zeke tried to kill himself and blamed his daughter. Ain't nobody above gettin emo. It's obvious muhfuckas care by the way we post.

All I'm saying is from a personal standpoint, seeing AI go from lost prodigy to #1 pick to MVP...becoming a husband and dad...back down to THIS?!?!? It's sad as fuck and way beyond any agendas.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

but zeke did do that shit though..

lol.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSM9pqoXV5A

being a bad father.

hilarious.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

yeah, we've partied on dudes being bad dad before. i get it. but, this is gonna be a tragedy if he don't get help.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

melo fan cause he's a knick, i really don't care what goes on in his personal life or whatever. My fav knicks were sprewell and marbury and yeah its sad how they life went but you won't see me trying to defend them for some of the stupid ish they were doing.

I just find it hilarious that spm stay talking bout melo being a bad dad cause he leave his son with weed carriers, but now that its ai, the rationale is what's this got to do with basketball? lolz.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

----
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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

I couldn't do it

bye kids

A few weeks ago, Antoine Walker announced he was starting a financial advisory service for pro athletes (seriously), why not party on that?

Seems otherwise.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

since OkaySports is so concerned about parenting

can we talk about these parents FORCING golf on their kids

first of all

I don't even think golf can be enjoyed by any person under 12 years of age

it's so mental

requires so much attention and repetition

and you don't have any team mates

you're completely on your own

When I see a parent FORCING golf on their kid

it feels cruel and unusual

and I want to run over to the parent and tell them to let their kid be a kid

STOP TORTURING YOU KID

Do you really want your kid to turnout like Tiger Woods?

Really?

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>and you don't have any team mates
>
>you're completely on your own

I'm talking about playing the game

it's just you, a ball, and the green

Most kids are going to get bored with that pretty quick

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>Most kids are going to get bored with that pretty quick

I played golf as a kid. Loved it. So did the friends I played golf with.

Maybe your post should have been titled, "I don't like golf."

I love golf

I'm basing this off of my experience

I see these parents forcing instruction on these kids

and they clearly don't want to be there

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Played constantly during the summer.

we didn't go to a course but they taught us how to drive and putt in the gym. we all loved it.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

you've never been to the golf course, at the driving range

and seen some over zealous parent barking instructions at some prepubescent, uninterested child

?

golf in middle school, where they do that

sheeeiiiittt

my schools were talking about cutting athletics all together because of budgets

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you can't understand it with an explanation

There are overbearing Little League parents, soccer parents, basketball parents, football parents, and yes, probably golf parents too. This has been well documented. There are countless essays, articles, and news programs about this problem. Are you saying that somehow overbearing golf parents are worse than in other sports?

I'm sure Iverson has his demons like anyone else...And I hope that if his relationship with his kids is indeed that troubling, he gets his shit together...

But folks jumping on this like some tabloid shit need to slow down...If you have ever gone through a divorce or if you know anyone that has gone through a divorce, you know that it can get pretty rough in terms of he said, she said...And the "she" usually has the upper hand...

You can read this type of gut-wrenching back and forth on any divorce case for Mr. and Mrs. Joe Public...

It ain't that at all CRAZY....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA2j01F1Xag

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�The other dude after me didn�t help my case. It was just like�crazy nigga factory going on.�
Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. �I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,� he says. �Never did.�-- Andre B

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"like father, like son"

Prince said...

"Lay off that" and glared at Billy..