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"Tim Brown accuses Bill Callahan of sabotaging Super Bowl XXXVII"
Tue Jan-22-13 12:05 PM by guru0509

  

          

some pretty serious allegations...


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8868196/tim-brown-bill-callahan-sabotaged-oakland-raiders-super-bowl-xxxvii-loss

According to receiver Tim Brown, Jon Gruden's Tampa Bay Buccaneers thrashed the Raiders 48-21 in Super Bowl XXXVII because Oakland was "sabotaged" by Bill Callahan, the team's head coach at the time, who changed the game plan at the last minute.

Brown's comments to SiriusXM NFL Radio on Saturday were earlier reported by ProFootballTalk.com, which was provided audio of his remarks.

Brown said that when the Raiders got the game plan on the Monday before the Super Bowl, it was a run-heavy attack taking advantage of Oakland's size advantage on the offensive line. However, Brown said Callahan scrapped the plan on Friday to the shock of the team.

"We all called it sabotage ... because Callahan and Gruden were good friends. And Callahan had a big problem with the Raiders, you know, hated the Raiders. You know, only came because Gruden made him come. Literally walked off the field on us a couple of times during the season when he first got there, the first couple years."

This isn't the first time Brown has made these accusations against Callahan. The receiver also made these claims four years ago on the morning of the Super Bowl.

Brown stressed that he was expressing his opinion and had no proof that Callahan intentionally doomed his own team.

"You know, can you really say that? That can be my opinion, but I can't say for a fact that that's what his plan was, to sabotage the Super Bowl," Brown said. "He hated the Raiders so much that he would sabotage the Super Bowl so his friend can win the Super Bowl. That's hard to say, because you can't prove it.

"But the facts are what they are, that less than 36 hours before the game we changed our game plan. And we go into that game absolutely knowing that we have no shot. That the only shot we had if Tampa Bay didn't show up," he said.

Brown said center Barret Robbins, who disappeared from the team in the days before the game and did not play, begged Callahan not to change the game plan.

"Barret Robbins begged Coach Callahan, 'Do not do this to me. I don't have time to make my calls, to get my calls ready. You can't do this to me on Friday. We haven't practiced full speed, we can't get this done,'" Brown said.

Brown wouldn't correlate Robbins' absence from the team with Callahan's decision, however.

"I'm not saying one had anything to do with the other. All I'm saying is those are the facts of what happened Super Bowl week. So our ire wasn't towards Barret Robbins, it was towards Bill Callahan. Because we feel as if he wouldn't have did what he did, then Barret wouldn't have done what he did," Brown said.

Brown said "everybody knew Barret was unstable anyway" but the team couldn't fathom Callahan would change plans at the last minute.

"So to put him in that situation -- not that he was putting him in that situation -- but for that decision to be made without consulting the players the Friday before the Super Bowl? I played 27 years of football. The coaches never changed the game plan the Friday before the game.

"I'm not trying to point fingers at anybody here, all I'm saying is those are the facts of what happened. So people look at Barret and they say all these things, but every player in that locker room will tell you, 'You'd better talk to Bill Callahan.' Because if not for Coach Callahan, I don't think we're in that situation," he said.

Jon Ritchie, the starting fullback for the Raiders in that game and former ESPN NFL analyst told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen in a text that he agrees with Brown's comments.

"I've said it for years. What we practiced heavily during the week is not what we ran in that game. Could have been due to Barrett's absence. It was never explained to believe. I believe I said it on the record every year we talked about the Super Bowl (when he was with ESPN for four years). I always thought it would get sensational like this," Ritchie wrote in the text.

However, another former Raiders offensive player who didn't want to be named, disagreed with Brown.

"No, he (Tim) isn't right. While there was always dysfunction, that didn't happen. If anything Bill wanted to kick Jon's a--. Nobody would do that. Brutal. We got out-played and out-coached. Period," the former player wrote in the text to ESPN.

Running back Zack Crockett, who also was on that Raiders team and is now a scout for the team, said Callahan changed the game plan only because of Robbins' disappearance.

"He may have known something we didn't know," Crockett told ESPN Radio's "Mike & Mike in the Morning" of Brown.

Crockett said "everybody was in shock" when Robbins left the team because he made all the offensive calls. He agrees with Brown that "with the offensive line we had, it was going to be a downhill game" if the original game plan was used.

Oakland rushed the ball only 11 times in the Super Bowl loss to the Buccaneers, and two of those attempts were by quarterback Rich Gannon. Gannon attempted 44 passes in the loss.

Robbins was diagnosed as bipolar after that incident but regained his spot in the starting lineup the next season after undergoing treatment at an alcohol rehabilitation center. However, the Raiders released Robbins in 2004 after he tested positive for steroids.

In addition to stays in alcohol and drug rehabilitation programs, Robbins has had several run-ins with law enforcement since the 2004 season.

Brown's comments about Callahan came just days after he questioned the Bears' hiring of coach Marc Trestman, who was the Raiders' offensive coordinator when Brown was on the team.

"I don't want to say it was a joke, but I just never saw Trestman as being a head coach," Brown said last week on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000 in Chicago.

Brown had posted nine straight 1,000-yard receiving seasons with the Raiders entering 2002, the year Trestman took over as the team's offensive coordinator. In that 2002 season, Jerry Rice emerged as the team's leading receiver and Brown finished with 930 yards.

"The year he took over as offensive coordinator is also the year my reign with the Raiders ended because he made Jerry the No. 1 receiver instead of myself," Brown said. "The year before I made the Pro Bowl and caught ... and the year afterwards, the year he takes over, I think I came like 50 yards from catching 1,000 yards in 10 or 11 straight seasons.

"Hey, look, I'm not a selfish player, but come on, if I put the work in, make this happen for me. We had some interesting words about that part of it."

Brown is one of 15 modern-era Hall of Fame finalists for the class of 2013. The Hall's 46-member selection committee will meet in New Orleans on Feb. 2 to make its selections.

Callahan is currently the Cowboys' offensive line coach.

ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen and ESPN's Jeremy Schaap contributed to this report.
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haha, great minds....damn near pressed enter at the same time
Jan 22nd 2013
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lol, funny thing is I immediately thought of the Beasties too
Jan 22nd 2013
5
:(
Jan 22nd 2013
2
Basically Barret Robbins was dead scared of Sapp and them
Jan 22nd 2013
3
mofo disappeared he was so scared
Jan 22nd 2013
4
      Naw, he was just so high he thought he already won
Jan 22nd 2013
33
i believe it.
Jan 22nd 2013
6
The whole state of Nebraska is like "Now, you tell us!"
Jan 22nd 2013
7
yeah he & Dave Wannstet pretty much killed my theory about
Jan 22nd 2013
11
If Callahan would have fired his DC
Jan 23rd 2013
41
Actually what set Barrett off was finding out that Terry Kirby was hitti...
Jan 22nd 2013
8
WAHOOWA
Jan 22nd 2013
10
totally forgot that, that story Lindros/Brindamour levels of confirmed?
Jan 22nd 2013
13
      I guess that IS ..."enough to make nuh go craaaaaazy"
Jan 22nd 2013
16
      I refer to it as "Willie Roaf/Joe Horn" confirmed
Jan 22nd 2013
31
           I'm still mad we coulda had Brendan Shanahan for Brindy, turned it down
Jan 22nd 2013
34
""I'm not trying to point fingers at anybody here..."
Jan 22nd 2013
9
this mofo aint never getting in the hall of fame
Jan 22nd 2013
12
LOL @ touchdown timmy laying into trestman.
Jan 22nd 2013
14
They went from an all-pro to a sparsely played backup at C
Jan 22nd 2013
15
but Robbins went AWOL *after* the gameplan change on Friday
Jan 22nd 2013
17
      well Jerry Rice said today...
Jan 22nd 2013
18
           so that works in with the timeline as well
Jan 22nd 2013
21
fuckin Reflection Smurf.
Jan 22nd 2013
19
fuck Tim Brown, he got a Heisman he didn't deserve
Jan 22nd 2013
20
is that a Don McPherson reference?
Jan 22nd 2013
22
      yeah, and I'm biased but still right though
Jan 22nd 2013
23
           welp, he got the Maxwell as consolation I suppose.
Jan 22nd 2013
26
Gruden knew the signals
Jan 22nd 2013
24
^^^^^THIS
Jan 22nd 2013
25
I don't want to relive that game
Jan 22nd 2013
38
      Fam, I've never been physically sick due to a sporting event
Jan 23rd 2013
47
John Lynch said as much LIVE during the game
Jan 22nd 2013
28
Yup, I've seen that same clip and Lynch is utterly shocked/laughing
Jan 22nd 2013
29
yeah i seen this too i think it was on inside the nfl
Jan 23rd 2013
45
Raiders' players were complaining that the Bucs knew all the audibles
Jan 22nd 2013
35
whats cool is Callahan & Monte Kiffin=Dallas top assistants right today
Jan 22nd 2013
27
It's not funny, but.....fuckit, it is. About Barrett Robbins....
Jan 22nd 2013
30
Well, had serious depression issues and was off his meds that weekend
Jan 22nd 2013
37
All's well that ends well
Jan 22nd 2013
32
Raiders - Bucs Super Bowl and Tijuana...
Jan 22nd 2013
36
Damn you just brought back some memories for me, lol...
Jan 23rd 2013
40
pretty much everyone backing him up in some way sooooooo
Jan 22nd 2013
39
also, LOL at Tim Brown being mad at playing second fiddle to JERRY RICE
Jan 23rd 2013
42
1. Jerry...2. Cris Carter 3. Randy Moss
Jan 23rd 2013
43
lol @ cris carter...there are *active* guys better than him
Jan 23rd 2013
54
this happened?
Jan 23rd 2013
44
      from the swipe:
Jan 23rd 2013
49
           That's also true though. They were pretty much equals...
Jan 23rd 2013
56
wonder why he waited 10 damn years to bring it up lol
Jan 23rd 2013
46
He didn't. He has said it numerous times
Jan 23rd 2013
53
Smokescreen to get heat off of ND and T'eo
Jan 23rd 2013
48
^keen peep
Jan 23rd 2013
50
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NOI2pZlj0Mc/UAP4tRdz-iI/AAAAAAAAB6Q/0xfGklM2jR...
Jan 23rd 2013
55
Billly C's comments
Jan 23rd 2013
51
Timmy Brown, ND For Life, Doing His Best To Take Heat Off Manti Te'o
Jan 23rd 2013
52

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1. "haha, great minds....damn near pressed enter at the same time"
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5. "lol, funny thing is I immediately thought of the Beasties too"
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3. "Basically Barret Robbins was dead scared of Sapp and them"
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4. "mofo disappeared he was so scared"
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33. "Naw, he was just so high he thought he already won"
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7. "The whole state of Nebraska is like "Now, you tell us!""
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11. "yeah he & Dave Wannstet pretty much killed my theory about"
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NFL coaches going to the college ranks & having at least some modicum of success.

  

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41. "If Callahan would have fired his DC"
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he might still be here, his offense was Top 10 great with Shawn Watson, the OC for Louisville now

his recruiting was outstanding

he just couldn't send his friend, Kevin Cosgrove......who was in way over his head, packing.

I think he would have done an about face with the walk-on program too, knowing that was a key to Osborne's success.

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8. "Actually what set Barrett off was finding out that Terry Kirby was hitti..."
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10. "WAHOOWA"
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13. "totally forgot that, that story Lindros/Brindamour levels of confirmed?"
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16. "I guess that IS ..."enough to make nuh go craaaaaazy""
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31. "I refer to it as "Willie Roaf/Joe Horn" confirmed"
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I don't like to disrespect Rod the Bod by bringing up that sordid business.

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34. "I'm still mad we coulda had Brendan Shanahan for Brindy, turned it down"
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and then still had to later trade him anyway on account of that mess for Primeau (not that he didn't have his moments but c'mon).

  

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9. """I'm not trying to point fingers at anybody here...""
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Uh, yeah man, you pretty much are.

  

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12. "this mofo aint never getting in the hall of fame"
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he should have been in a long time ago...possibly the 3rd or 4th best receiver off all time...

However, his attacks on VIP in football will keep him out forever.

He used to shit on al davis all the time, and called him a racist.


  

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14. "LOL @ touchdown timmy laying into trestman."
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trestman had rice nearly wanting out of SF, so he probably owed him.

he probably shoulda just left that gripe out of the interview completely.

  

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15. "They went from an all-pro to a sparsely played backup at C"
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Arguably the 2nd most important player on the offensive unit. Obviously I don't know what happened but I'm gonna assume that Robbins' dissapearance had far more to do with changing the gameplan than Tim Brown's claim of sabotage...particularly since winning that game cements Callahan as a top coach.

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17. "but Robbins went AWOL *after* the gameplan change on Friday"
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he made curfew Friday night at 11 but was with some nefarious character who went to his room with him & then they later went back out again then dissapeared to TJ.

At least that's the timeline Romo was giving on the radio this morning.

  

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18. "well Jerry Rice said today..."
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that after the change on Friday, Robins was beside himself screaming "you cannot do this to me...not now"

  

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21. "so that works in with the timeline as well"
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19. "fuckin Reflection Smurf."
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20. "fuck Tim Brown, he got a Heisman he didn't deserve"
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so I'm glad his little streak of 1,000 being broken bothers him.

  

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22. "is that a Don McPherson reference?"
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23. "yeah, and I'm biased but still right though"
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Brown scored just 7 TD's on an 8-4 team, and did nothing in their 2 biggest games(both L's).

He got so much hype and played for ND(when that mattered), he'd already won before the season started.

McPherson won all the QB awards and led his team to 11-0, should've been an easy pick.

  

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26. "welp, he got the Maxwell as consolation I suppose."
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I was just checking since even though I was pretty young I actually kinda remember that whole controversy (and put two-and-two together knowing your allegiances) plus Don ended up drafted by the Eagles.

  

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24. "Gruden knew the signals"
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Callahan didn't switch them up enough from what Rich Gannon said

I find that much more believable

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That was even more important. It was like Tecmo Bowl when the opposing team is looking at your plays all game long.

I sat there with my Charles Woodson jersey on completely confused as they game got out of hand quickly.

Shit was disgusting.

So yeah, I agree Callahan threw that game. And if I ever was to see him, I'd spit in his fucking face.

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38. "I don't want to relive that game"
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they were so dominant that year and then THAT happened. 11 years later and they still ain't recovered.

  

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28. "John Lynch said as much LIVE during the game"
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>Callahan didn't switch them up enough from what Rich Gannon
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>I find that much more believable

At one point he was mic'ed up on the sidelines in total disbelief at how all the signals matched up with what Gruden taught them.

I have love for Tim Brown but who knows what he's talking about here.

  

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29. "Yup, I've seen that same clip and Lynch is utterly shocked/laughing"
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Dude said they pretty much know every play being called at the line.

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JAESCOTT777
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45. "yeah i seen this too i think it was on inside the nfl "
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mrhood75
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35. "Raiders' players were complaining that the Bucs knew all the audibles"
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GTFOH, Gruden created all the audibles. Of course the Bucs were going to know them if Callahan didn't bother changing them.

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27. "whats cool is Callahan & Monte Kiffin=Dallas top assistants right today"
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Oh.....and their head coach is Jason Garrett, General Manager is Jerry Jones & Quarterback is Tony Romo.

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30. "It's not funny, but.....fuckit, it is. About Barrett Robbins...."
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"Robbins later told his wife that he had spent most of the day before the Super Bowl partying across the border in Tijuana, and actually thought the Raiders had already won the game and he was celebrating their victory"

THAT'S why he missed it???????? I know I'm ten years late but what the hell damn fuck?!???

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mrhood75
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37. "Well, had serious depression issues and was off his meds that weekend"
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Callahan changing the offense at the last minute didn't cause him to skate, being off his meds did.

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ConcreteCharlie
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32. "All's well that ends well"
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I have heard him say this before, a few years ago, I doubt he said much new.

It sounded like more of a bungling than anything, just bad coaching compounded by bad play.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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deejboram
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36. "Raiders - Bucs Super Bowl and Tijuana..."
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I was in town for that Super Bowl
somehow ended up in TJ that weekend too
The shakejoints was a fuckin MAAAAADHOUSE
Adelita's was the most packed I've ever seen that shit
Club Chicago was packed to the gills

Damn I feel old...

  

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40. "Damn you just brought back some memories for me, lol..."
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>Adelita's was the most packed I've ever seen that shit
>Club Chicago was packed to the gills
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>Damn I feel old...

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39. "pretty much everyone backing him up in some way sooooooo"
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tuck rule then THAT.

YOU WONDER WHY MY HATE IS SO STRONG.

  

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KosherSam
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42. "also, LOL at Tim Brown being mad at playing second fiddle to JERRY RICE"
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*Jews you*

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Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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43. "1. Jerry...2. Cris Carter 3. Randy Moss"
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if SF wins it all,...it'll go 1. Jerry 2. Randy 3. Cris Carter

and then the rest...


he should get used to it.
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54. "lol @ cris carter...there are *active* guys better than him"
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44. "this happened?"
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KosherSam
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49. "from the swipe:"
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"The year he took over as offensive coordinator is also the year my reign with the Raiders ended because he made Jerry the No. 1 receiver instead of myself," Brown said. "The year before I made the Pro Bowl and caught ... and the year afterwards, the year he takes over, I think I came like 50 yards from catching 1,000 yards in 10 or 11 straight seasons.

"Hey, look, I'm not a selfish player, but come on, if I put the work in, make this happen for me. We had some interesting words about that part of it."
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now granted, this is more shade at the OC than at Jerry, but he's clearly mad that the OC made Jerry the #1 receiver, which kept him from getting his 1,000 yards.

*Jews you*

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56. "That's also true though. They were pretty much equals..."
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at that point.

Might have more to do with Gannon though and the emergence of Jerry Porter at the time.

Tim's just competitive. Jerry and him are cool

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46. "wonder why he waited 10 damn years to bring it up lol "
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53. "He didn't. He has said it numerous times"
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It's just now blowing up for whatever reason

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48. "Smokescreen to get heat off of ND and T'eo"
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Only reason he brought it out now.

  

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50. "^keen peep"
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55. "http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NOI2pZlj0Mc/UAP4tRdz-iI/AAAAAAAAB6Q/0xfGklM2jR..."
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51. "Billly C's comments"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjKRQ_OqCCw

  

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52. "Timmy Brown, ND For Life, Doing His Best To Take Heat Off Manti Te'o"
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That's some serious alumni support for ya!

  

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