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D_Tox151
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"Pau to D'Antoni: get your shit together"


  

          

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-lakers-gasol-dantoni-20130118,0,4735959.story?track=rss


When Gasol initially returned from his knee injury, the Lakers relied on their forward-center to create offense in the high post. Gasol responded by averaging 5.5 assists over a four-game stretch.

Even before his recent concussion, the team moved away from running the offense through Gasol. With the Miami Heat trapping Steve Nash, Gasol thought the Lakers missed an opportunity.

"We talked about doing it in timeouts, but we never really got to do it in the game," said Gasol. " show so much and they're so aggressive to the ball, it takes one defender off me and then it's a four on three, with me catching the ball on the top of the floor and making decisions and attacking from that point ... getting an open shot almost every time. We didn't get to do it that much. Hopefully we'll do it down in Miami in February."

The best example of the Lakers using Gasol as playmaker was against the Warriors.

"The Golden State game for instance, we ran a lot of the elbow sets where I caught the ball from the elbow and made plays from there," said Gasol. "We got four different looks just out of the one set, four different shots, layups, dunks open shots."

So where did that go?

"You're preaching to the choir, my friend," answered Gasol. "There's so much I can do. I don't play by myself. We're a team. We a coaching staff."

There's tension between Gasol and D'Antoni that is bigger than just starting and finishing games.

"We have to figure it out, tighten up our execution, know what to run, know where we can get good looks from down the stretch and not just rely on Kobe to bail us out every time because right now he's been on this defensive task of guarding point guards," said Gasol. "It's going to take quite a bit of his legs too. We have to understand and be smart. That's a challenge in this profession."

Bryant has been outspoken in his support for Gasol, both as a playmaker and as a low-post scorer.

"He's on the same page," said Gasol of Bryant.

The Lakers' offense won't flow into Gasol naturally. It's something they consciously look to do as a unit.

"Our spacing doesn't really favor that too much," he said. "It has to be more like specific calls, sometimes initiating the offense differently for that to happen."

So who is making the call, or rather the non-call, D'Antoni or Nash?

"From both," said Gasol. "All ends."

  

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Hmmm...they're right too
Jan 19th 2013
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Interesting end to that one too.
Jan 19th 2013
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The fit is bad. But it's not roster related. It's coaching.
Jan 20th 2013
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      couldn't agree more
Jan 20th 2013
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      That's what I was referring to.
Jan 20th 2013
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Pau got a month to ball and work up that trade value
Jan 19th 2013
3
^^^
Jan 19th 2013
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and who are the lakers going to get for pau
Jan 19th 2013
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False. There's very little out there, first of all.
Jan 19th 2013
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I didn't understand why the didn't use him against the Heat..
Jan 19th 2013
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D'Antoni...Nuff Said
Jan 19th 2013
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      would he like boris diaw back? we'll throw in sjax!
Jan 19th 2013
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      He probably would. Fuck this guy.
Jan 20th 2013
11
      The prospect of Pop and Pau is special.
Jan 20th 2013
12
      the couple minutes pau was established in the post that game
Jan 20th 2013
15
           That's Pretty Much It
Jan 20th 2013
19
if Antoni is gonna stay...Pau gotta go...end this miserable shit
Jan 20th 2013
14
lol this won't end well then
Jan 20th 2013
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      i agree....but we fucked up with hiring the coach.....
Jan 20th 2013
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Fire Pringles
Jan 20th 2013
20
the jim buss era
Jan 20th 2013
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calminvasion
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1. "Hmmm...they're right too"
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> "He's on the same page," said Gasol of Bryant.

  

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Cold Truth
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Sat Jan-19-13 01:46 PM

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2. "Interesting end to that one too. "
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Not going to read too much into it, but this is just a bad fit for all involved it would seem.

  

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El_essence
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10. "The fit is bad. But it's not roster related. It's coaching. "
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D_Tox151
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13. "couldn't agree more"
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Sun Jan-20-13 09:18 AM by D_Tox151

  

          

the roster, as constructed, gives this team the best chance this year. this coach, on the other hand....

  

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Cold Truth
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17. "That's what I was referring to. "
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Sun Jan-20-13 11:13 AM by Cold Truth

  

          

EDIT: I don't see how he sticks around past this season outside of Jerry not wanting to pay three coaches.

  

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LBs Finest
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3. "Pau got a month to ball and work up that trade value"
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BrooklynWHAT
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4. "^^^"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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D_Tox151
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5. "and who are the lakers going to get for pau"
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that will make them such a better team?

their issues go beyond pau.

  

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Cold Truth
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6. "False. There's very little out there, first of all. "
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We need two things back in any trade for Pau:

1. One or two young, athletic players that can play defense and possibly stretch the floor.
2. Contracts that are up after next season.

Very little with that combination and are available actually exist.

ANYTHING that takes back long term salary this year and isn't for a full on franchise player will do nothing but give us a shot at a round one playoff exit.

At this point, they should do their best to get that 8 seed and hope for a miracle run and leave it at that. I don't even think tanking will work, but I don't know if any of the picks we've given up were lottery protected.

So, I mean.. fuck it. It is what it is. Try to regroup next year I suppose and Hope Dwight resigns. Even if he doesn't, fuck it. It is what it is. Kobe and Pau and Ron all come off the books after next season, when Lebron is available. Given that it's not exactly the likeliest scenario to land him, why fuck up our money just to win another round or two on a long shot this year?

If we're about titles, then we need to just suck up the shit storm we're in and the gargantuan failure that comes with it and start planning for our future, not making knee jerk trades for marginal talent today, because that's his value at this point, for a few reasons.

The ONE trade I do is Josh Smith, because it gives us a huge chip in terms of keeping Dwight. Other than that? Fuck it. There ain't shit out there to improve our lot this year.

  

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LegacyNS
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7. "I didn't understand why the didn't use him against the Heat.."
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8. "D'Antoni...Nuff Said"
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rob
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9. "would he like boris diaw back? we'll throw in sjax!"
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hate to see em go but pau!

  

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Ryan M
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11. "He probably would. Fuck this guy. "
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Szabo
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12. "The prospect of Pop and Pau is special."
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...And he knows how to coach 2 low post players.

And yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he would try and get his hands on a Diaw, or equivalent Wing "power" forward.

  

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southphillyman
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15. "the couple minutes pau was established in the post that game "
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he scored at will
it's kind of amazing how stubborn and dumb d'antoni is
he's the andy reid of basketball it seems
doesn't matter how obvious the adjustments are it's his way or the highway even if it means underachieving

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19. "That's Pretty Much It"
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>he scored at will
>it's kind of amazing how stubborn and dumb d'antoni is
>he's the andy reid of basketball it seems
>doesn't matter how obvious the adjustments are it's his way or
>the highway even if it means underachieving
Dude refuses to adjust offensively, and won't give a damn defensively
If the team isn't tailored to him, he won't adjust to what he has
There's no way in hell that you shouldn't be able to utilize a Pau Gasol more effectively...none

  

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14. "if Antoni is gonna stay...Pau gotta go...end this miserable shit "
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16. "lol this won't end well then"
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giving up an all star that wants to stay on the team to get a player that fits the coach's system?
especially if the coach hasn't really achieved anything other than getting jobs.
not a good look at all.

''i went from bashful to asshole to international''- CdoubleO

  

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18. "i agree....but we fucked up with hiring the coach....."
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and he doesn't know how to use 2 bigs....and if he can't fit a versatile allstar, and mgmt won't fire him...then the allstar has to go.....and the demise can continue.

  

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DJR
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20. "Fire Pringles"
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Why the hell not. He sucks. Horrible hire.

  

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D_Tox151
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21. "the jim buss era"
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>Why the hell not. He sucks. Horrible hire.

if this is any indication of how its gonna go....lakers fans going to be popping in those championship run dvd's more often than actually watching them happen again.

  

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