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Basaglia
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"I hope Rose comes back close to 100. I'm running with tha Bulls"


  

          

now that bulls fans understand that booz is actually a good player and can do some shit and fat ass deron didn't MAKE him, i'mma end this thing for good and roll with y'all dudes.

y'all recognize my dudes keep shit afloat while rose is out, so i gotta respect the gains that have been made.

our beef is over. i want my two niggas to win a title with y'all.

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if rose is close to 100% bulls will be legit like always.
Jan 16th 2013
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Bulls fans don't care who you run with.
Jan 16th 2013
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i wouldnt worry that much about the pacers
Jan 16th 2013
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i'm with the bulls, as long as deng and booz there...period
Jan 16th 2013
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lol
Jan 16th 2013
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I'm convinced there needs to be a balancing act...seriously
Jan 16th 2013
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      Oh I agree 100%
Jan 16th 2013
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      RE: I'm convinced there needs to be a balancing act...seriously
Jan 16th 2013
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      Has Rose ever had that problem?
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           RE: Has Rose ever had that problem?
Jan 16th 2013
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                how come those unforced TOs aren't in the boxscores, dogg?
Jan 16th 2013
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                     RE: how come those unforced TOs aren't in the boxscores, dogg?
Jan 16th 2013
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Its sad how posters unabashedly jump on bandwagons nowadays
Jan 16th 2013
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*Daps you up* All bets are off when him and Rie square off tho
Jan 16th 2013
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RE: I hope Rose comes back close to 100. I'm running with tha Bulls
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I expect the Fallout from this to be both volatile & comical
Jan 16th 2013
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Basically
Jan 16th 2013
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of course
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lol...cosign
Jan 16th 2013
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only if they go back to blaming if stuff goes left...but, i'm cool
Jan 16th 2013
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      Can you defend Boozer's poor defense last year?
Jan 16th 2013
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           he playing poor defense THIS YEAR. be serious!
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           ^^^I been saying this for 2 seasons...nobody is listening
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           I disagree with this
Jan 16th 2013
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                Them games was close Random (outside of game 2)
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           Boozer is a liability.
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           RE: Can you defend Boozer's poor defense last year?
Jan 16th 2013
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                see? dudes think they can just say anything about booz...
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                     RE: see? dudes think they can just say anything about booz...
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                          So, you can just wrongly say he turned it over
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                               RE: So, you can just wrongly say he turned it over
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                               we good, man. this is a positive thread. i'm being positive.
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                                    RE: we good, man. this is a positive thread. i'm being positive.
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                               I exhausted myself on this issue with murph, the Miami series
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                                    RE: I exhausted myself on this issue with murph, the Miami series
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                                         RE: I exhausted myself on this issue with murph, the Miami series
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                                              RE: I exhausted myself on this issue with murph, the Miami series
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http://i47.tinypic.com/fbm68p.jpg
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lol wth
Jan 16th 2013
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      right?
Jan 16th 2013
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*daps*
Jan 16th 2013
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this is like when elton john sang with eminem. beautiful
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Career Russian Roullette?(c)Marshall
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      Lol
Jan 16th 2013
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I hope Rose doesn't come back unitl he is 100
Jan 16th 2013
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'our beef is over' LMAO!
Jan 17th 2013
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this is suspicious
Jan 22nd 2013
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he'll be fine...damn, just take the peace offering
Jan 22nd 2013
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      my bad but this akin to shyne converting to hasidic judaism
Jan 22nd 2013
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           nah, dogg...for me, whoever try to blame booz or deng is a bitch
Jan 22nd 2013
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                RE: nah, dogg...for me, whoever try to blame booz or deng is a bitch
Jan 22nd 2013
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Cenario
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1. "if rose is close to 100% bulls will be legit like always."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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LeroyBumpkin
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2. "Bulls fans don't care who you run with."
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Wed Jan-16-13 09:24 AM by LeroyBumpkin

  

          

You'll hop off for some other agenda come next season.

But to deal w/ the post at hand.

Heat & Pacers.
Healthy Rose or not, those are the only teams I'm worried about.
Noah & Deng will always anchor the defense.
If Boozer & Belinelli can stay consistent offensively, I think we can get out the 1st round without Rose.

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39. "i wouldnt worry that much about the pacers"
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IMO they played over their head last year, combination of injury free lineup and short season benefited them immensely. they are still a second tier team for the foreseeable future to me.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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Basaglia
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44. "i'm with the bulls, as long as deng and booz there...period"
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you gotta remember, dogg... i never had a problem with the bulls until dudes started blaming deng...and then booz. i didn't care what the bulls did.

things just got outta hand...lmao

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3. "lol"
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so what will happen if Rose comes back and Booz does not show up (let's not hope so) in the Playoffs?
Rose's fault?

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6. "I'm convinced there needs to be a balancing act...seriously"
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Wed Jan-16-13 10:51 AM by auragin_boi

  

          

Rose has to see what these guys are doing without him.

His game should be more CP3 than Westbrook when he gets back.

Dime up the first half, score in stretches, take over in the 4th but STILL look for your help (Booz/Deng/Noah/Rip).

He can't be trying to "Jordan" shit right now. 17/9/4/1 on 47%/15-16 shots and it's perfection.

If comes back shooting 21-24 times a game and his dimes are sub 7 per...Booz prolly gonna dip in production and Rose might end up hurt again.

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12. "Oh I agree 100%"
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I just don't think that the (occasional) lack of balance was Rose's or anybody else's fault.
Only thing really missing was consistent scoring from the 2 spot.


>Rose has to see what these guys are doing without him.
>
>His game should be more CP3 than Westbrook when he gets back.
>
>Dime up the first half, score in stretches, take over in the
>4th but STILL look for your help (Booz/Deng/Noah/Rip).
>
>He can't be trying to "Jordan" shit right now. 17/9/4/1 on
>47%/15-16 shots and it's perfection.
>
>If comes back shooting 21-24 times a game and his dimes are
>sub 7 per...Booz prolly gonna dip in production and Rose might
>end up hurt again.

''i went from bashful to asshole to international''- CdoubleO

  

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14. "RE: I'm convinced there needs to be a balancing act...seriously"
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Getting perimeter production beyond Rose and Deng is the key...

If we can't get consistent scoring from the 2 guard spot, then it will be another playoff ouster...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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17. "Has Rose ever had that problem?"
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I feel like when he was healthy he knew how to allow/get Boozer going.

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19. "RE: Has Rose ever had that problem?"
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Wed Jan-16-13 12:33 PM by murph71

          

>I feel like when he was healthy he knew how to allow/get
>Boozer going.


All I remember is Boozer getting unforced turnovers in the post and our SG either being shitty or too old...

The real issue was always could Noah and Boozer play together/and a lack of a consistent 2 guard...It had nothing to do with Rose...

Now it seems like Noah and Booz have found synergy...

We will see how all this turns out when it really matters...

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Basaglia
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29. "how come those unforced TOs aren't in the boxscores, dogg?"
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why is your default just to BLAME anyone but rose.

if he shoot 7-23, you blame someone else. it ain't right, dude.

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31. "RE: how come those unforced TOs aren't in the boxscores, dogg?"
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Wed Jan-16-13 01:42 PM by murph71

          

>why is your default just to BLAME anyone but rose.
>
>if he shoot 7-23, you blame someone else. it ain't right,
>dude.


Again...you too blinded dog...

Boozer was on the bench...Hence his lack of touches...The question you need to ask yourself is why did Coach Thibs feel the need to sit him down and play Gibson?

As of today, I've already given props to Boozer for his regular season play...And will continue to do so...He deserves to be an All-Star...He is BALLING...

But all this^^^has nothing to do with the playoffs...When your PG is expected to be your leading scorer every night, that's the real problem, isn't it?

And for that, I blame the Bulls cheap ass ownership...Everything else you are talking misses the big picture...

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4. "Its sad how posters unabashedly jump on bandwagons nowadays"
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5. "*Daps you up* All bets are off when him and Rie square off tho"
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lol

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7. "RE: I hope Rose comes back close to 100. I'm running with tha Bulls"
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I'm listening.....

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8. "I expect the Fallout from this to be both volatile & comical"
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9. "Basically"
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I'm waiting for the games where Booz goes back to being the Tin-Man, and Rose has to do more than he should. Bulls fans will turn on Booz, and Bags will go berserk

  

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15. "of course"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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10. "lol...cosign"
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16. "only if they go back to blaming if stuff goes left...but, i'm cool"
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it don't need to be all that tho. TEAMS lose, but they always pinned it on Deng or Booz.

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18. "Can you defend Boozer's poor defense last year?"
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Basaglia
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22. "he playing poor defense THIS YEAR. be serious!"
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that's the give and take with booz. you feed him, you get a bucket or a foul drawn 65% of the time...like literally, 65%...not a cyse.

he sucks on D...always has. ALWAYS.

but, his D ain't why y'all got booted. it was just an excuse.

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23. "^^^I been saying this for 2 seasons...nobody is listening"
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We got booted cuz they nutted up against Philly.

Like literally the whole team but specifically Noah(tho he got hurt) and CJ. If they play up to 'their' par, we beat philly in 5-6 games even without Rose.

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26. "I disagree with this"
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Playoff defense is a different animal. Last year the Bulls didn't have the ball handlers or creativity to combat consistently intense playoff defense.

Thats why I'm on the Nate/Marco >> Cj/Kyle bandwagon.

  

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35. "Them games was close Random (outside of game 2)"
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Wed Jan-16-13 02:38 PM by auragin_boi

  

          

All we needed was guys who were making regular season plays, to make post season plays and they nutted up.

I'd even allow for the game 2 "down about D-Rose" blowout. But game 3 (got outscored by 14 in the 4th, had a 9pt lead going into it)? 6 (CJ Nutted up)?...if it went 7 I say we win the series but we shoulda won games 3 and 6 easily.

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40. "Boozer is a liability."
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>but, his D ain't why y'all got booted. it was just an excuse.

When Thibs sits him in the 4th, he's a liability. Taj Gibson on the other hand IS in in crunch time situations, and he doesn't have half the offensive abilities Boozer has.

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24. "RE: Can you defend Boozer's poor defense last year?"
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It wasn't Booz's poor D that did them in....

It was more about a lack of consistent SG play and Booz's issues in the post (offensively)...A lot of lackluster play...A lot of unforced turnovers (again Booz)...A lot of ghost appearances...

Throw in Noah getting injured and it all went tumbling down...

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27. "see? dudes think they can just say anything about booz..."
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Wed Jan-16-13 01:14 PM by Basaglia

  

          

>
>
>It wasn't Booz's poor D that did them in....
>
>It was more about a lack of consistent SG play and Booz's
>issues in the post (offensively)

i'm speaking ONLY about 2011, when y'all had a GREAT chance to win it all...his issues were he ain't get the ball. he was in single digit shot attempts 2 outta 5 game and only went over 14 shots once. that ain't consistent touches, dogg. that ain't team ball.

...A lot of lackluster
>play...A lot of unforced turnovers (again Booz)...A lot of
>ghost appearances...

see, this a cyse...he ain't even turn the ball over more than TWICE against miami. TWICE in ONE game.


>Throw in Noah getting injured and it all went tumbling
>down...

whatever, man. rose do his thing and he healthy, the bulls will be tough. but all this blaming to protect rose gotta stop. it's disgusting. he shot that 38% against the heat, dogg.

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30. "RE: see? dudes think they can just say anything about booz..."
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Wed Jan-16-13 01:39 PM by murph71

          

>>
>>
>>It wasn't Booz's poor D that did them in....
>>
>>It was more about a lack of consistent SG play and Booz's
>>issues in the post (offensively)
>
>i'm speaking ONLY about 2011, when y'all had a GREAT chance to
>win it all...his issues were he ain't get the ball. he was in
>single digit shot attempts 2 outta 5 game and only went over
>14 shots once. that ain't consistent touches, dogg. that ain't
>team ball.

That was Thibs' call, Basa, not Boozer haters....Most of the time, Boozer was being placed on the bench for whatever reason during various situations while Gibson was getting the ball and finishing games...



>...A lot of lackluster
>>play...A lot of unforced turnovers (again Booz)...A lot of
>>ghost appearances...
>
>see, this a cyse...he ain't even turn the ball over more than
>TWICE against miami. TWICE in ONE game.


Again...that's because he was shown the bench....


>
>>Throw in Noah getting injured and it all went tumbling
>>down...
>
>whatever, man. rose do his thing and he healthy, the bulls
>will be tough. but all this blaming to protect rose gotta
>stop. it's disgusting. he shot that 38% against the heat,
>dogg.


Boozer is playing ball, right now...But let's be real, here, Basa...The Bulls were very unimaginative on Offense...

And for that I blame coach Thibs...

Again...When your only consistent perimeter option is your PG (Deng certainly showed improvement that year in 2011...) that's a real problem...

All I have to do is look at the other teams in the east that the Bulls were competing against...Rose was playing against Bron and Wade...

That's all that needs to be said...

I'm through with blaming Boozer because the problem is bigger than him...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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33. "So, you can just wrongly say he turned it over"
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And just move on and talk about some general shit when the issue was the idea that booz's unforced TOs were costing the bulls games? We just gonna skip all that shit and throw a buncha other stuff out for me to respond to. It ain't unforced TOs no more, huh?

Aight, dogg. You just irrational when it comes to Rose. You'll say anything, really.

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36. "RE: So, you can just wrongly say he turned it over"
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Wed Jan-16-13 02:51 PM by murph71

          

>And just move on and talk about some general shit when the
>issue was the idea that booz's unforced TOs were costing the
>bulls games? We just gonna skip all that shit and throw a
>buncha other stuff out for me to respond to. It ain't unforced
>TOs no more, huh?


Actually, no.....I didn't even realize you were just talking about the 2011 season until looking back at your post before my follow-up posts...

Bottom line...In 2011, specifically, that was Thibs...He's the one that felt Boozer wasn't playing up to his level...It was the same reason Boozer was being yanked in and out of the 4th Q that season..


>Aight, dogg. You'll

>say anything, really.

Nah...You just irrational when it comes to Duke players.

Again...you are pretty unhinged on this one...I will admit that your 2011 specific was something I wasn't really targeting on until I followed-up my statements...I was talking about Boozer as a whole during his time with the Bulls...And his turnovers were part of the issue...But not in the 2011 playoffs...By that time, Thibs had lost confidence in him during the big spots...

But again, the only question you should ask yourself is why did Coach Thibs sit him down in those playoff games in 2011 in the big spots? If you can answer that then you will have your answer...

As is, Boozer is playing some damn good ball...He should be an all-star....I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he can keep it up...

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38. "we good, man. this is a positive thread. i'm being positive. "
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you can feel however you wanna feel, because you've always kinda been the extreme case with the defending rose tact. i'mma just let it be.

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42. "RE: we good, man. this is a positive thread. i'm being positive. "
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37. "I exhausted myself on this issue with murph, the Miami series"
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>And just move on and talk about some general shit when the
>issue was the idea that booz's unforced TOs were costing the
>bulls games? We just gonna skip all that shit and throw a
>buncha other stuff out for me to respond to. It ain't unforced
>TOs no more, huh?
>
>Aight, dogg. You just irrational when it comes to Rose. You'll
>say anything, really.

Listed shooting numbers each night and how Rose was taking more shots than any two players COMBINED and shooting a HORRIBLE percentage. Two things that can't happen with a point guard if you expect to win.

That Miami series was VERY winnable if Rose wasn't trying to one man it so damn much. I blame him and the coach for not changing that shit up. No way in the world Deng, Booz, etc shouldn't have been getting more touches.

Murph contended Rose HAD to do it, my point was he WASN'T DOING IT WELL AND SHOULD HAVE TRIED SOMETHING ELSE. It's where his non-traditional PG style has hurt us and him actually.

A_B saw it too, but I stopped even going there, some cats have their mind set on one way and that's all they'll ever see.

  

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41. "RE: I exhausted myself on this issue with murph, the Miami series"
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>Listed shooting numbers each night and how Rose was taking
>more shots than any two players COMBINED and shooting a
>HORRIBLE percentage. Two things that can't happen with a
>point guard if you expect to win.

First, What I and Basa are talking about were two different things...He was talking SPECIFICALLY about that 2011 playoff run...I wasn't, early on, until I saw that's the angle he was going at...So keep that in mind...

As for your view of things: The issue was NEVER that Rose didn't have a shaky series...I said he did...The issue was WHY he struggled.... The Bulls needed for Rose to be their highest scorer every night to win games....I think that's more of an indictment on the Bulls organization than it is on a PG who still has Similac on his breath...


>
>That Miami series was VERY winnable if Rose wasn't trying to
>one man it so damn much. I blame him and the coach for not
>changing that shit up. No way in the world Deng, Booz, etc
>shouldn't have been getting more touches.
>
>Murph contended Rose HAD to do it, my point was he WASN'T
>DOING IT WELL AND SHOULD HAVE TRIED SOMETHING ELSE. It's
>where his non-traditional PG style has hurt us and him
>actually.
>
>A_B saw it too, but I stopped even going there, some cats have
>their mind set on one way and that's all they'll ever see.



I think you and A-B are among the few Bulls fans that feel this way...

I like what C. Barkly said about the Bulls that playoff season, and specifically the Heat series...Paraphrasing dude...He basically said, you can't look at how close the games r...A lot of games are close in the playoffs...It's how a team loses...And it's clear the Bulls will not win with one guy expecting to do it all against teams with several offensive options...

So while you guys point out would have should have scenarios just because how close the games r, I will look at the fact that the Bulls' defense covered up for a lot of their offensive problems...




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43. "RE: I exhausted myself on this issue with murph, the Miami series"
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>>Listed shooting numbers each night and how Rose was taking
>>more shots than any two players COMBINED and shooting a
>>HORRIBLE percentage. Two things that can't happen with a
>>point guard if you expect to win.
>
>First, What I and Basa are talking about were two different
>things...He was talking SPECIFICALLY about that 2011 playoff
>run...I wasn't, early on, until I saw that's the angle he was
>going at...So keep that in mind...

fair enough

>As for your view of things: The issue was NEVER that Rose
>didn't have a shaky series...I said he did...The issue was WHY
>he struggled.... The Bulls needed for Rose to be their highest
>scorer every night to win games....
fundamental disagreement right here. YOU (and others) believe he needed to be that. It was pretty clear to all that other than Deng, everyone else had to be fed the ball. So, a less than efficient shooting point guard would need to get everyone else involved rather than shoulder the entire load. it wasn't as if he tried and then went away from it. except for the first game, it was Rose and "dem". Not surprisingly, we lost each of those games.


>I think that's more of an
>indictment on the Bulls organization than it is on a PG who
>still has Similac on his breath...
he was the MVP dog. that similac smelled sweet all year.


>
>>
>>That Miami series was VERY winnable if Rose wasn't trying to
>>one man it so damn much. I blame him and the coach for not
>>changing that shit up. No way in the world Deng, Booz, etc
>>shouldn't have been getting more touches.
>>
>>Murph contended Rose HAD to do it, my point was he WASN'T
>>DOING IT WELL AND SHOULD HAVE TRIED SOMETHING ELSE. It's
>>where his non-traditional PG style has hurt us and him
>>actually.
>>
>>A_B saw it too, but I stopped even going there, some cats
>have
>>their mind set on one way and that's all they'll ever see.
>
>
>
>I think you and A-B are among the few Bulls fans that feel
>this way...
>
>I like what Barkely said about the Bulls that
>year...Paraphrasing dude...He basically said, you can't look
>at how close the games r...A lot of games are close in the
>playoffs...It's how a team loses...And it's clear the Bulls
>will not win with one guy expecting to do it all against teams
>with several offensive options...
that was my point. we lost BECAUSE he was consuming most of the shots and not doing a good job of it. this isn't to say we'd have definitely beat them had he done the alternative, but we never got to find that out and you at least have to go with a different approach if one isn't working.


>So while you guys point out would have should have scenarios
>just because how close the games r, I will look at the fact
>that the Bulls' defense covered up for a lot of their
>offensive problems...
no one disputed that as well. but Rose not engaging the other players more made the limited offense even more so.

  

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45. "RE: I exhausted myself on this issue with murph, the Miami series"
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>>I think you and A-B are among the few Bulls fans that feel
>>this way...
>>
>>I like what Barkely said about the Bulls that
>>year...Paraphrasing dude...He basically said, you can't look
>>at how close the games r...A lot of games are close in the
>>playoffs...It's how a team loses...And it's clear the Bulls
>>will not win with one guy expecting to do it all against
>teams
>>with several offensive options...
>that was my point. we lost BECAUSE he was consuming most of
>the shots and not doing a good job of it. this isn't to say
>we'd have definitely beat them had he done the alternative,
>but we never got to find that out and you at least have to go
>with a different approach if one isn't working.


Actually, we lost because Thibs didn't have faith in his other players beyond Rose and Deng on the offensive side of things...

The writing was on the wall when our second best player was on the bench in the 4th Q most of those playoff series...

I think that has little to do with Rose and more to do with Thibs willing to ride Rose until the wheels fell off...


>>So while you guys point out would have should have scenarios
>>just because how close the games r, I will look at the fact
>>that the Bulls' defense covered up for a lot of their
>>offensive problems...

>no one disputed that as well. but Rose not engaging the other
>players more made the limited offense even more so.


Again...I think that's all on Thibs...When your second best offensive player (Boozer) is sitting on the bench during big spots in the playoffs for whatever valid reasons, specifically against Miami, then what does that say about Thibs' overall confidence about the Bulls' offense?

I don't look at the margin of games...I look at offensively fluidity...Honestly, I think if we had an above average SG at that moment we would have won that Miami series...

Keith Bogans, man...Keith Bogans....



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11. "http://i47.tinypic.com/fbm68p.jpg"
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13. "lol wth"
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28. "right?"
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that shit is... i don't even know

  

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20. "*daps*"
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21. "this is like when elton john sang with eminem. beautiful"
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25. "Career Russian Roullette?(c)Marshall"
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34. "Lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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32. " I hope Rose doesn't come back unitl he is 100"
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the way they're playing

no need to rush back

I'd limit his minutes

and give him a couple of DNPs for a while

they need him for the offs

they might be able to move up to the 3

but I wouldn't take the risk to do it

they can beat BKN and IND on the road in a series with a healthy DRose

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46. "'our beef is over' LMAO!"
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47. "this is suspicious"
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you gonna pull a bait & switch when rose comes back looking like a rich man's travis best?

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48. "he'll be fine...damn, just take the peace offering"
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why can't this just be over? i'm tired of beefing wit bulls fans. as long as my guys there, of course i want y'all to win.

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49. "my bad but this akin to shyne converting to hasidic judaism"
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i won't believe it till i see dat payot

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50. "nah, dogg...for me, whoever try to blame booz or deng is a bitch"
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i'm not puttin all that on ALL bulls fans. i used to do that, but if a few dudes STILL try to blame my guys after they've PROVEN how good they are without rose...well, eff 'em. i'm not feedin into that anymore.

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51. "RE: nah, dogg...for me, whoever try to blame booz or deng is a bitch"
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>i'm not puttin all that on ALL bulls fans. i used to do that,
>but if a few dudes STILL try to blame my guys after they've
>PROVEN how good they are without rose...well, eff 'em. i'm not
>feedin into that anymore.


People stopped blaming Deng a minute ago...He has shown over the last few seasons what he can do in the playoffs...

Hell, he guards the other teams best player and still gets his numbers...Deng has more than proven himself in the big moments...

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