"Can someone please make the case for icing the kicker?"
There's not much statistical evidence to support it, but even just working on logic I don't think it makes sense. You may give them a practice shot if you don't time it right. If not, you're probably just giving them more time to prepare rather than siking them out (they are professionals after all, I could kinda see it at the high school or college level). And at this point they're probably expecting it, so the lack of icing might throw them off more.
5. "I'd also argue (with no evidence of course) " In response to Reply # 2
that most of the "chokers" have been kicked out of the league by now. Either way, the coaches that like icing seem to employ it indiscriminately. If that's the case it's really dumb. I'd definitely want the better kickers to either rush it or think I'm going to ice them.
7. "I'd just call it once the kicker lined up, not this last millisecond non..." In response to Reply # 0
Let the kicker get up there and call the timeout while dude is setting up...put them out on the stage and let them think about it, maybe get them out of their rhythm.
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12. "right, waiting to the last second is what gets me." In response to Reply # 7
even if he doesn't take the practice kick, it lets him practice his whole routine out there, get in position, and then take a 30 second break.
Now's he more comfortable as he repeats what he just did.
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21. "the first time I saw it (can't remember who) dude made it and" In response to Reply # 12
was so deflated after realizing it didn't count that he promptly missed.
May have been Belasterisk that called it, can't remember.
But that initial one from a few years back (they used to just call it beforehand not as the ball was being snapped) had people thinking they found a loophole & it's now gone in the other direction to a ridiculous degree.
I think them kicking that first one after the whistle as an exercise like the Falcons did to Pete kinda serves coaches right for that nonsense.
Now Baltimore practicing kicks between the first & second OT on the field of play was kinda bullshit but they are coached by a Harbaugh who also spent a decade as a special-teams coach before coming there so he must have just said 'fuck it, let's see what I can get away with'.
9. "didn't the kicker for Dallas lose a game last year because he got iced?" In response to Reply # 0 Sun Jan-13-13 10:42 PM by forgivenphoenix
i can't argue that the tactic is usually effective, but i don't have a problem with coaches using it.
it seems about on par with a coach lining up on 4th & less than 5 yards and hoping the other team jumps offside. 98% of the time it doesn't work, but I know the Eagles lost that game against the Bills last year like this.
22. "agreed, looked like he just tried to boot for distance rather" In response to Reply # 13
than really try to get that to hook between the uprights.
Stil, if Pete took the points like he should have late second-quarter (while not putting Lynch on the field in two short-yardage plays on 3rd & the ill-advised 4th) then ATL's down 4 & needs a TD.
Or if they hadn't botched the clock & let the half end the very next drive while again in the red zone.
>trying something is better than trying nothing >probably not much more deeper than that really
I can kinda see your point if it's a short kick that everyone makes, but I think the most likely scenario for a kicker getting in their own head is when it's a longer kick than usual and they don't have much time to think about it. Giving them more time (and possibly a practice shot) is asking for trouble imo.
16. "right...do it for a chip shot..not a 50 yarder lol" In response to Reply # 15
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