this was posed on ESPN last nite with Kobe winning by a 52% to 48% margin..

but I've noticed that when this question is posed, its basically code for "who is/was the better player" lol


I say Magic easily on both accounts. I wont even go into how Magic is the better player because, really, if you saw Magic in his prime, aint no way Kobe compares.

But career wise might be more debateable but I still give the edge to Magic. Only reason this is even worthy of debate is cus Magic career was cut short

but what says OKS tho?

Poll result (41 votes) Magic: better player & better career (25 votes) Vote Magic: better player only (1 votes) Vote Magic: better career only (0 votes) Vote Kobe: better player & better career (10 votes) Vote Kobe: better player only (1 votes) Vote Kobe: better career only (4 votes) Vote

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magic had more MVPs, more Finals MVPs and more finals appearances in a substantially shorter career.

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but really tho, highlight videos dont do Magic justice. his command of the game from the PG spot was simply incredible.
he's arguably a GOAT player without necesarily being your best scorer. you cant say that about anyone else

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lakers than Kobe. He's not top 5 all nba though.

in any universe

IMO you have Magic and Jabbar as locks. West, Baylor and Shaq are all debatable ones. The Shaq argument is thin though, Baylor, too. West is a tough one. Still, IMO Kobe is no lower than 4th, probably 3rd.

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i think its pretty clear, prolly cuda been worded differently tho

unique talent that revolutionized the game, true original = better career

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period.

even if they'll retire with the same titles.

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it's a testament to him along with a sad reminder of how Magic's career was cut short in this case.

This Kobe

jacking up shots

to the detriment of his team

not really adding to his legacy IMO

Give Magic D12 and Pau

I doubt this team is anywhere close to sub .500

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jokes, el (sort of).

there was a heavy dose of mad making in that. I don't think AI's better than Pierce. But the comparison is negligible. They should get in at the same time.

C'mon lets be real.. Only reason this is even debateable is the fact Pierce career has lingered on steadily, while AI was suddenly derailed.

but put up AI's first 12 seasons vs. Pierce 12, and its no contest. And I say this as a Celts fan and Pierce apologist


>there was a heavy dose of mad making in that. I don't think
>AI's better than Pierce. But the comparison is negligible.
>They should get in at the same time.

Pierce was never a dominant player, period, Iverson was. That is the dividing line among greats.

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>This Kobe
>
>jacking up shots
>
>to the detriment of his team

Kobe's playing his best basketball in 3 years and is arguably the best 2 guard in the league right today.

>not really adding to his legacy IMO

you mad.

>Give Magic D12 and Pau

Kobe hasn't had D12 and Pau for the entire season. what are you even talking about?


>I doubt this team is anywhere close to sub .500

"Kobe's playing his best basketball in 3 years and is arguably the best 2 guard in the league right today."

to the detriment of his team

he was playing very well early in the season, about the first couple of weeks in November

since then, his FGAs has increased while his FG% is decreasing (along with decreases in other categories)

to the point where his team mates are checking out and losing interest

but hey, as long as he get HIS, it's GREAT, right?

how many forced, contested, 3pt FGAs, 5 feet behind the arc in the final possession of the game do we have to see, before the LAL start running a more effective set?

"Kobe hasn't had D12 and Pau for the entire season. what are you even talking about?"

not sure what that has to do with a hypothetical of Magic being able to have this team playing at a higher level than Kobe is


>I doubt this team is anywhere close to sub .500

so anytime you want to address the statements I made

instead of deflecting

I'll wait

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>"Kobe's playing his best basketball in 3 years and is
>arguably the best 2 guard in the league right today."
>
>to the detriment of his team

What is the point in refuting a statement with no factual evidence to back it up? I have shit to do.

>he was playing very well early in the season, about the first
>couple of weeks in November
>
>since then, his FGAs has increased while his FG% is decreasing
>(along with decreases in other categories)

He is still playing at an elite level.

>to the point where his team mates are checking out and losing
>interest

Is this another statement with no basis in fact you're looking for me to refute?

>but hey, as long as he get HIS, it's GREAT, right?
>
>how many forced, contested, 3pt FGAs, 5 feet behind the arc in
>the final possession of the game do we have to see, before the
>LAL start running a more effective set?

He's not the coach.

>"Kobe hasn't had D12 and Pau for the entire season. what are
>you even talking about?"
>
>not sure what that has to do with a hypothetical of Magic
>being able to have this team playing at a higher level than
>Kobe is

Because in his 17th season, magic would not have this team in it's current state doing any better. It's silly. Magic is my favorite player EVER and is a better player than Magic. But there's no need to make silly hyperbolic statements. If you want to argue Magic in his 12th season wouldn't have the team at .500 then fine. But Kobe was 29
in his 12th season. He won a Finals MVP that year. You think he's the same player now?

>>I doubt this team is anywhere close to sub .500
>
>so anytime you want to address the statements I made
>
>instead of deflecting
>
>I'll wait

lol like you dropping bombs or some shit foh....

he was clearly the best at his position from day one goddamn near, he was three MVPs and three Finals MVPs, had more team success, etc. was magic every watching the playoffs on TV? fuck no!

this is ridiculous, i cannot let this "he lasted longer, he had a better career" shit ride. you dont hear this kind of nonsense in other sports for whatever reason it seems

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But hell, what do I know?

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Lakers, with Kwame n them...I'd still pick Kobe.

And also, what about Steve Nash on this team? Would he play SG or backup PG?

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cmon now.

thought not, OK, lach point stands and we are moving on ...

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Magic's career does include HS and NCAA chips

he went #1 overall

and balled immediately

it's one of the factors that will forever make Kobe #2 (specifically compared to MJ)

these guys came into the league and balled IMMEDIATELY

specifically compared to Magic

the factor that jumps out is who did Kobe make BETTER

Magic could grab 4 guys out of the stands and run you

Kobe, ehh, not so much

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And it aint even close if you saw magic play...kobe aint doin shit as a player that nobody else hasn't done..I will give him props on that 81 pt game..but magic changed the game and won in the process..

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I don't recall you ever saying that about any other active player

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better player

made teammates better around him

took a jive turkey coach like mike dunleavy to the finals

kobe, ran Rudy Tomjanovich out of la like the ghost of kermitt washington's fist was behind him


Magic and Shaq win 5 titles in a row together.

Kareem would have duct taped kobe's mouth.

kobe ain't much without a big man in the paint.

magic went to the finals with floppy divac nuff said.


kobe scored alot and is great for his time, however the bad boys back in the day would have turned kobe into eddie jones lite.

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and also bird took that shit to a different level. maravich was on it at times. ginobili is a contemporary guy i'd put in that class.

kobe and jordan had plenty of that, too, but magic was like the all time prime example of it.

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as a rookie, could start in the finals AT CENTER and put up 42 points, 15 boards and 7 assists....in game 6 no less.

But I mean, cmon, career? Magic went to NINE NBA Finals. One could argue he was their top player the whole time, especially with the injury to Jabbar in the 80 Finals (they also had injuries up the ass in 83 when they lost, but Magic was there). He won as many rings and more conference crowns in a much shorter career. He also had all the individual honors.

You couldn't really compare them statistically because their roles were completely different. I think you'd have to give the nod to Magic on leadership over Kobe or Shaq for sure though. Kobe was clearly a better or at least much more interested defensive player. Their offensive games are just too different but I would say Magic was more dominant. He dictated the pace of the game and he was just in constant command. Kobe could take over at a more intense level, but not as consistently, plus if he was off he could hurt you worse.

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