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"Poll question: Better Career & Player: Magic or Kobe?"


  

          

this was posed on ESPN last nite with Kobe winning by a 52% to 48% margin..

but I've noticed that when this question is posed, its basically code for "who is/was the better player" lol


I say Magic easily on both accounts. I wont even go into how Magic is the better player because, really, if you saw Magic in his prime, aint no way Kobe compares.

But career wise might be more debateable but I still give the edge to Magic. Only reason this is even worthy of debate is cus Magic career was cut short

but what says OKS tho?

Poll result (41 votes)
Magic: better player & better career (25 votes)Vote
Magic: better player only (1 votes)Vote
Magic: better career only (0 votes)Vote
Kobe: better player & better career (10 votes)Vote
Kobe: better player only (1 votes)Vote
Kobe: better career only (4 votes)Vote

  

  

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Magic better player. tied for careers nm
Jan 09th 2013
1
^ where I'm at.
Jan 09th 2013
11
agreed
Jan 09th 2013
19
how is it a tie for careers though?
Jan 10th 2013
58
Kobe better player and career. Magic is more iconic though
Jan 09th 2013
2
dint you start watching b-ball when AI got drafted tho?
Jan 09th 2013
3
      RE: he's arguably a GOAT player
Jan 09th 2013
24
both careers are phenomenal, but Magic is the FAR better player
Jan 09th 2013
4
Magic = better player and career by far...
Jan 09th 2013
5
Don't matter, both top 5 all-time
Jan 09th 2013
6
WRONG
Jan 09th 2013
7
Kobe got more rings that Bron, Dream and Oscar combined...
Jan 09th 2013
9
      and none of em had a player nearly as good/dominant as Shaq
Jan 09th 2013
27
Kobe barely cracks top-5 Lakers
Jan 09th 2013
8
      I love the extremes on both sides. Only Cap and Magic were better
Jan 09th 2013
16
      dude come on, wilt was a better player but not a better LAKER
Jan 10th 2013
60
Some of your poll options are synonymous, lol.
Jan 09th 2013
10
how so?
Jan 09th 2013
13
      Magic better player only = Kobe better career only, etc.
Jan 09th 2013
25
#32 better player, more all time epic games, true leadership
Jan 09th 2013
12
Magic by a landslide. Magic is top 3 or 5 all time. Kobe isn't
Jan 09th 2013
14
Magic was a better all-around player, HIV gave Kobe a better career tho
Jan 09th 2013
15
probably right. But careers is close. nm
Jan 09th 2013
17
Kobe's getting all those legacy/cumulative numbers tho
Jan 09th 2013
21
      But is just playing longer a better career though
Jan 09th 2013
23
           no but El thinks Pierce had a better career than AI so I'm trying
Jan 09th 2013
26
           full disclosure on that....
Jan 09th 2013
43
                how is AI not better than Pierce?
Jan 09th 2013
45
                AI is first ballot, Pierce second, both HOF'ers
Jan 10th 2013
64
           RE: But is just playing longer a better career though
Jan 09th 2013
41
                Well, you didn't refute any of the statements I made
Jan 10th 2013
54
                     RE: Well, you didn't refute any of the statements I made
Jan 10th 2013
68
even with HIV, magic;s career was better, dude
Jan 10th 2013
59
better question would this LA squad be below .500 w/ Magic?
Jan 09th 2013
18
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jan 09th 2013
30
^ putting it in context right here.
Jan 09th 2013
31
depends, 34 year old magic or 16th year in the league magic?
Jan 09th 2013
32
Uh you do remember missing the 2005 playoffs, right?
Jan 10th 2013
61
      that's a different question
Jan 10th 2013
66
I'll say this. Magic would be better on this squad, but for the 2006
Jan 09th 2013
34
17 years in with Pau and Dwight hurt? nigga are you serious? nm
Jan 10th 2013
50
      lol you act as if Dwight was a no show till he got seriously hurt
Jan 10th 2013
55
      did magic have any years like 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Jan 10th 2013
62
RED
Jan 09th 2013
20
Magic won a chip in HS, NCAA, NBA + Olympic gold medal...
Jan 09th 2013
22
Magic 'died' a hero, kobe lived long enough to become a villian
Jan 09th 2013
28
lol he was always a villain, get over it
Jan 10th 2013
65
lol..earvin on both counts
Jan 09th 2013
29
Remember this?
Jan 09th 2013
33
      i compliment bitches eryday...its what i do
Jan 09th 2013
38
      "best ever" ... that's one hell of a compliment
Jan 09th 2013
40
           i knew tweedle dumb would show up..magic still better
Jan 09th 2013
42
      Awwww shit!!!
Jan 09th 2013
44
Magic in a blowout
Jan 09th 2013
35
You DO know Magic ran a coach out too, right?
Jan 09th 2013
37
nigga said eddie jones lite...lol
Jan 09th 2013
39
      caught that shit too
Jan 10th 2013
48
Magic is clearly better but careers are very close
Jan 09th 2013
36
Magic by a wide margin, personally
Jan 09th 2013
46
funny how this could be referring to sex or basketball with these guys
Jan 10th 2013
47
Kobe is the Ray Lewis of basketball
Jan 10th 2013
49
RE: Better Career & Player: Magic or Kobe?
Jan 10th 2013
51
Kobe only has better athleticism/off. skillset, except court vision
Jan 10th 2013
52
Andre Miller agrees
Jan 10th 2013
53
both guys found style in function and function in style but magic ...
Jan 10th 2013
63
name another point a guard in recent memory that
Jan 10th 2013
56
Red, obviously, but it's a rough comparison because of style
Jan 10th 2013
57
Kobe = Better Scorer Magic = Better Teammate nm
Jan 10th 2013
67

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1. "Magic better player. tied for careers nm"
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11. "^ where I'm at."
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19. "agreed"
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58. "how is it a tie for careers though?"
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magic had more MVPs, more Finals MVPs and more finals appearances in a substantially shorter career.

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2. "Kobe better player and career. Magic is more iconic though"
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3. "dint you start watching b-ball when AI got drafted tho?"
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lol/jk

but really tho, highlight videos dont do Magic justice. his command of the game from the PG spot was simply incredible.
he's arguably a GOAT player without necesarily being your best scorer. you cant say that about anyone else

  

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24. "RE: he's arguably a GOAT player"
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agreed

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4. "both careers are phenomenal, but Magic is the FAR better player"
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It's not even close. Magic is top-5 all-time, and dominated from point and fucking CENTER.

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5. "Magic = better player and career by far..."
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6. "Don't matter, both top 5 all-time"
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7. "WRONG"
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Magic, Wilt, Kareem, Jordan, Bron, Dream, Oscar, Duncan, Russell, Shaq all better than Kobe. Cry!

  

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9. "Kobe got more rings that Bron, Dream and Oscar combined..."
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Russell was a glorified role player, Elmo is a bitch

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27. "and none of em had a player nearly as good/dominant as Shaq"
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was in his prime..

cry more

  

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8. "Kobe barely cracks top-5 Lakers"
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Magic
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16. "I love the extremes on both sides. Only Cap and Magic were better"
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lakers than Kobe. He's not top 5 all nba though.

  

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60. "dude come on, wilt was a better player but not a better LAKER "
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in any universe

IMO you have Magic and Jabbar as locks. West, Baylor and Shaq are all debatable ones. The Shaq argument is thin though, Baylor, too. West is a tough one. Still, IMO Kobe is no lower than 4th, probably 3rd.

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10. "Some of your poll options are synonymous, lol."
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13. "how so?"
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i think its pretty clear, prolly cuda been worded differently tho

  

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25. "Magic better player only = Kobe better career only, etc."
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12. "#32 better player, more all time epic games, true leadership"
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unique talent that revolutionized the game, true original = better career

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14. "Magic by a landslide. Magic is top 3 or 5 all time. Kobe isn't"
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period.

  

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15. "Magic was a better all-around player, HIV gave Kobe a better career tho"
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even if they'll retire with the same titles.

  

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17. "probably right. But careers is close. nm"
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21. "Kobe's getting all those legacy/cumulative numbers tho"
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it's a testament to him along with a sad reminder of how Magic's career was cut short in this case.

  

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23. "But is just playing longer a better career though"
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This Kobe

jacking up shots

to the detriment of his team

not really adding to his legacy IMO

Give Magic D12 and Pau

I doubt this team is anywhere close to sub .500

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26. "no but El thinks Pierce had a better career than AI so I'm trying"
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to speak his language.

jokes, el (sort of).

  

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43. "full disclosure on that...."
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there was a heavy dose of mad making in that. I don't think AI's better than Pierce. But the comparison is negligible. They should get in at the same time.

  

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45. "how is AI not better than Pierce?"
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C'mon lets be real.. Only reason this is even debateable is the fact Pierce career has lingered on steadily, while AI was suddenly derailed.

but put up AI's first 12 seasons vs. Pierce 12, and its no contest. And I say this as a Celts fan and Pierce apologist


>there was a heavy dose of mad making in that. I don't think
>AI's better than Pierce. But the comparison is negligible.
>They should get in at the same time.

  

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64. "AI is first ballot, Pierce second, both HOF'ers"
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Pierce was never a dominant player, period, Iverson was. That is the dividing line among greats.

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41. "RE: But is just playing longer a better career though"
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>This Kobe
>
>jacking up shots
>
>to the detriment of his team

Kobe's playing his best basketball in 3 years and is arguably the best 2 guard in the league right today.

>not really adding to his legacy IMO

you mad.

>Give Magic D12 and Pau

Kobe hasn't had D12 and Pau for the entire season. what are you even talking about?


>I doubt this team is anywhere close to sub .500

  

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54. "Well, you didn't refute any of the statements I made"
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"Kobe's playing his best basketball in 3 years and is arguably the best 2 guard in the league right today."

to the detriment of his team

he was playing very well early in the season, about the first couple of weeks in November

since then, his FGAs has increased while his FG% is decreasing (along with decreases in other categories)

to the point where his team mates are checking out and losing interest

but hey, as long as he get HIS, it's GREAT, right?

how many forced, contested, 3pt FGAs, 5 feet behind the arc in the final possession of the game do we have to see, before the LAL start running a more effective set?

"Kobe hasn't had D12 and Pau for the entire season. what are you even talking about?"

not sure what that has to do with a hypothetical of Magic being able to have this team playing at a higher level than Kobe is


>I doubt this team is anywhere close to sub .500

so anytime you want to address the statements I made

instead of deflecting

I'll wait

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68. "RE: Well, you didn't refute any of the statements I made"
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>"Kobe's playing his best basketball in 3 years and is
>arguably the best 2 guard in the league right today."
>
>to the detriment of his team

What is the point in refuting a statement with no factual evidence to back it up? I have shit to do.

>he was playing very well early in the season, about the first
>couple of weeks in November
>
>since then, his FGAs has increased while his FG% is decreasing
>(along with decreases in other categories)

He is still playing at an elite level.

>to the point where his team mates are checking out and losing
>interest

Is this another statement with no basis in fact you're looking for me to refute?

>but hey, as long as he get HIS, it's GREAT, right?
>
>how many forced, contested, 3pt FGAs, 5 feet behind the arc in
>the final possession of the game do we have to see, before the
>LAL start running a more effective set?

He's not the coach.

>"Kobe hasn't had D12 and Pau for the entire season. what are
>you even talking about?"
>
>not sure what that has to do with a hypothetical of Magic
>being able to have this team playing at a higher level than
>Kobe is

Because in his 17th season, magic would not have this team in it's current state doing any better. It's silly. Magic is my favorite player EVER and is a better player than Magic. But there's no need to make silly hyperbolic statements. If you want to argue Magic in his 12th season wouldn't have the team at .500 then fine. But Kobe was 29
in his 12th season. He won a Finals MVP that year. You think he's the same player now?

>>I doubt this team is anywhere close to sub .500
>
>so anytime you want to address the statements I made
>
>instead of deflecting
>
>I'll wait

lol like you dropping bombs or some shit foh....

  

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59. "even with HIV, magic;s career was better, dude"
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he was clearly the best at his position from day one goddamn near, he was three MVPs and three Finals MVPs, had more team success, etc. was magic every watching the playoffs on TV? fuck no!

this is ridiculous, i cannot let this "he lasted longer, he had a better career" shit ride. you dont hear this kind of nonsense in other sports for whatever reason it seems

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18. "better question would this LA squad be below .500 w/ Magic?"
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30. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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31. "^ putting it in context right here."
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But hell, what do I know?

  

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32. "depends, 34 year old magic or 16th year in the league magic?"
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61. "Uh you do remember missing the 2005 playoffs, right?"
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66. "that's a different question"
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34. "I'll say this. Magic would be better on this squad, but for the 2006"
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Lakers, with Kwame n them...I'd still pick Kobe.

And also, what about Steve Nash on this team? Would he play SG or backup PG?

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50. "17 years in with Pau and Dwight hurt? nigga are you serious? nm"
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55. "lol you act as if Dwight was a no show till he got seriously hurt"
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cmon now.

  

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62. "did magic have any years like 2005, 2006 and 2007?"
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thought not, OK, lach point stands and we are moving on ...

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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20. "RED"
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Magic's career does include HS and NCAA chips

he went #1 overall

and balled immediately

it's one of the factors that will forever make Kobe #2 (specifically compared to MJ)

these guys came into the league and balled IMMEDIATELY

specifically compared to Magic

the factor that jumps out is who did Kobe make BETTER

Magic could grab 4 guys out of the stands and run you

Kobe, ehh, not so much

Showtime >>> Hero Ball

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22. "Magic won a chip in HS, NCAA, NBA + Olympic gold medal..."
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28. "Magic 'died' a hero, kobe lived long enough to become a villian"
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ConcreteCharlie
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65. "lol he was always a villain, get over it"
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you can go back to 2001 at the LATEST and that shit was over the top obvious

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29. "lol..earvin on both counts"
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And it aint even close if you saw magic play...kobe aint doin shit as a player that nobody else hasn't done..I will give him props on that 81 pt game..but magic changed the game and won in the process..

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33. "Remember this?"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=21&topic_id=28886&mesg_id=28886&listing_type=search#28991

So good.

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38. "i compliment bitches eryday...its what i do"
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that doesnt change shit..as i noted above

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40. ""best ever" ... that's one hell of a compliment"
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I don't recall you ever saying that about any other active player

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42. "i knew tweedle dumb would show up..magic still better"
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cry nigga

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44. "Awwww shit!!!"
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35. "Magic in a blowout"
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better player

made teammates better around him

took a jive turkey coach like mike dunleavy to the finals

kobe, ran Rudy Tomjanovich out of la like the ghost of kermitt washington's fist was behind him


Magic and Shaq win 5 titles in a row together.

Kareem would have duct taped kobe's mouth.

kobe ain't much without a big man in the paint.

magic went to the finals with floppy divac nuff said.


kobe scored alot and is great for his time, however the bad boys back in the day would have turned kobe into eddie jones lite.

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37. "You DO know Magic ran a coach out too, right?"
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39. "nigga said eddie jones lite...lol"
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48. "caught that shit too"
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Hilarious

  

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36. "Magic is clearly better but careers are very close"
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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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46. "Magic by a wide margin, personally"
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The league had never seen a pg Magic's size
Kobe was an MJ clone

Magic led Showtime
Kobe led the team in scoring

Magic 5 rings
Kobe 5 rings

Magic more league MVPs
Magic more finals MVPs
Magic 1st pick in the draft
Magic NCAA champion
Magic career across the board (19.5/7.2/11.2) 138 trip-dubs!!!

Magic = better career

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47. "funny how this could be referring to sex or basketball with these guys"
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49. "Kobe is the Ray Lewis of basketball"
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17 years one team fuck with him

  

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51. "RE: Better Career & Player: Magic or Kobe?"
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http://redsarmy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/bill-russell-wearing-rings.jpg

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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52. "Kobe only has better athleticism/off. skillset, except court vision"
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magic had the better career and is the better player no doubt. the new school dribble moves, stutter step, leaping ability, and smoother/faster overall body movement don't make kobe a better player. magic's jumper is just as wet.

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53. "Andre Miller agrees"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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63. "both guys found style in function and function in style but magic ..."
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and also bird took that shit to a different level. maravich was on it at times. ginobili is a contemporary guy i'd put in that class.

kobe and jordan had plenty of that, too, but magic was like the all time prime example of it.

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56. "name another point a guard in recent memory that"
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as a rookie, could start in the finals AT CENTER and put up 42 points, 15 boards and 7 assists....in game 6 no less.

  

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57. "Red, obviously, but it's a rough comparison because of style"
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But I mean, cmon, career? Magic went to NINE NBA Finals. One could argue he was their top player the whole time, especially with the injury to Jabbar in the 80 Finals (they also had injuries up the ass in 83 when they lost, but Magic was there). He won as many rings and more conference crowns in a much shorter career. He also had all the individual honors.

You couldn't really compare them statistically because their roles were completely different. I think you'd have to give the nod to Magic on leadership over Kobe or Shaq for sure though. Kobe was clearly a better or at least much more interested defensive player. Their offensive games are just too different but I would say Magic was more dominant. He dictated the pace of the game and he was just in constant command. Kobe could take over at a more intense level, but not as consistently, plus if he was off he could hurt you worse.

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67. "Kobe = Better Scorer Magic = Better Teammate nm"
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