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Tiger Woods
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"Torn ACL/LCL. 9-12 month recovery. Fuck sports."


  

          

Why does this feel like Sean Taylor

  

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RE: Torn ACL/LCL. 9-12 month recovery. Fuck sports.
Jan 08th 2013
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RE: Torn ACL/LCL. 9-12 month recovery. Fuck sports.
Jan 08th 2013
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man RG3 aint dead. chill.
Jan 08th 2013
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damn, I just read it was torn LCL.....4-6
Jan 08th 2013
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fuck sports?
Jan 08th 2013
5
i knew that chickenshit franchise would ruin him
Jan 08th 2013
6
^^^ supports dog killing
Jan 09th 2013
107
enjoy that cellar for the next decade
Jan 10th 2013
143
even on one leg, Chip Kelly comes if you've got Griffin
Jan 10th 2013
184
      right, Chip Kelly is worth crying about
Jan 11th 2013
197
           i so wanted the hot college coach. they always work out.
Jan 13th 2013
209
Overreacted, just super blown
Jan 08th 2013
7
Adrian Peterson.
Jan 08th 2013
8
Blew his knee on the same field too...
Jan 08th 2013
11
*adds Chris Clemons*
Jan 08th 2013
14
      nothing will ever top the evil turf at the Vet (where Curtis Conway
Jan 08th 2013
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           that wasn't Curtis Conway...it was Wendell Davis
Jan 08th 2013
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                damn, you're right, for some reason I think I've made that mistake befor...
Jan 08th 2013
20
there's a story somewhere about AP's comeback
Jan 08th 2013
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      Bob's ACL was already held together with rubber bands and bubble gum
Jan 08th 2013
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      he doesnt need to tho
Jan 09th 2013
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      It was on Grantland
Jan 08th 2013
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on the plus side, maybe they now actually design an offense fit for a QB
Jan 08th 2013
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lol true
Jan 09th 2013
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Agreed...
Jan 09th 2013
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      then again, he wasnt injured on any designed runs, just scrambles
Jan 10th 2013
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           Wear-and-tear. They were still running him when he knee was shot...
Jan 14th 2013
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nothing that would have happened this year, was worth 2013
Jan 08th 2013
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RE: nothing that would have happened this year, was worth 2013
Jan 08th 2013
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Please stop with these posts....
Jan 08th 2013
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Even more reprehensible imo.
Jan 08th 2013
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RE: Even more reprehensible imo.
Jan 08th 2013
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you don't put your franchise rookie qb on the field with a partial
Jan 08th 2013
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^^^^
Jan 10th 2013
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what?
Jan 10th 2013
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This is a really, really dumb agenda.
Jan 09th 2013
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I really hope he comes back from this
Jan 08th 2013
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only AP can do that.
Jan 08th 2013
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Torn LCL, acl tear TBD during surgery
Jan 08th 2013
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no new information, your post is accurate
Jan 08th 2013
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only the R*dskins could fuck up Robert Griffin's rookie year
Jan 08th 2013
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I should have posted this in the Shanahan bash thread but...
Jan 08th 2013
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He isn't that calculated man
Jan 08th 2013
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He didn't have to do anything but let Griffin play his kind of game
Jan 09th 2013
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he already had time regardless
Jan 09th 2013
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what leads you to believe that he is not?
Jan 11th 2013
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNHuqHWefU
Jan 09th 2013
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why did I know what this was gonna be b4 I clicked? lmao.
Jan 09th 2013
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Authentic discourse
Jan 09th 2013
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...you know I was replying to you, right?
Jan 10th 2013
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      you know I was being sarcastic, right?
Jan 10th 2013
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not sure why this was posted
Jan 11th 2013
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That's a very interesting theory...
Jan 09th 2013
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christ jesus
Jan 10th 2013
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      I didn't realize I needed to supply a bibliography with my posts.
Jan 10th 2013
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           no biblio needed, just any shred of reference to verified reality
Jan 11th 2013
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                You can't tell that this was a theory? or conjecture?
Jan 11th 2013
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That nygga shouldve sat his ass down
Jan 08th 2013
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Here's why this is such a complex situation
Jan 08th 2013
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      RE: Here's why this is such a complex situation
Jan 08th 2013
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      Exactly.
Jan 08th 2013
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           I don't disagree with this at all.
Jan 09th 2013
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      he didnt run towards ngata
Jan 09th 2013
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           and FWIW, that was a drop back passing play
Jan 09th 2013
Easily one of the biggest coaching blunders
Jan 08th 2013
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It's not an accident that Cousins was picked...
Jan 09th 2013
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Bob finna get on that same Body By Hostess rehab plan as Wall.
Jan 09th 2013
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You clearly don't know Griff
Jan 09th 2013
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      he's an AP type, fuck around and come back in BETTER shape
Jan 09th 2013
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as a fan, watching the game
Jan 09th 2013
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      I didn't want them to win
Jan 10th 2013
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      I did.
Jan 11th 2013
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At least you got John Wall
Jan 09th 2013
38
*avatar quote*
Jan 09th 2013
40
      Hey fuck them. I hope my dude balls out then bounces...
Jan 09th 2013
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           ^^^Livin Large
Jan 09th 2013
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           John Wall doesn't bounce. John Wall jiggles.
Jan 09th 2013
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           Used to love Walt Williams LOL, Kerry Kittles had the ill sock game tho
Jan 09th 2013
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bring him back 2014 and fix the damn field.
Jan 09th 2013
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I know it's a truly selfish time to think about my keepers.
Jan 09th 2013
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I traded away RGIII in Week 1 (keeper league). I feel dirty, but fuck it...
Jan 09th 2013
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ESPN saying 6 to 8 month recovery
Jan 09th 2013
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Cowboys still won't win the division... *smh*
Jan 09th 2013
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9 months absolute max
Jan 09th 2013
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Official word per Mortensen: 6-8 month recovery
Jan 09th 2013
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No, that's Mort "unnamed sources". Not official at all.
Jan 09th 2013
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      seems more official than 14-16, no?
Jan 09th 2013
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What was wrong with the field?
Jan 09th 2013
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shit was like the surface of the moon fam
Jan 09th 2013
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I'm not sure who the head groundsman is, but for the last 3 years
Jan 09th 2013
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given our newfound speed, we should just go with turf
Jan 09th 2013
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      Uh...Turf is worse on knees, doggie
Jan 09th 2013
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           CORRECT, if fools are tearing ligaments tha's because there
Jan 09th 2013
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           Field Turf, yeah, but something like Sportexe Momentum is better
Jan 09th 2013
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           The Redskins fields have always been grass and until recenty
Jan 09th 2013
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           Uh, no.
Jan 09th 2013
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                FieldTurf (14 stadiums in the league, I think) has an 80% higher rate
Jan 10th 2013
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right before kickoff, they said the field was PAINTED GREEN *link*
Jan 09th 2013
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I read something about concerts and college games
Jan 09th 2013
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Prediction: He rushes back, is terribly rusty , controversy ensues
Jan 09th 2013
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that's the thing. his pre-season work ethic and preparation coming
Jan 09th 2013
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I'm deathly afraid of this, and his post-game comments hint at the ego
Jan 09th 2013
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Feels like Taylor, because it's part of the same CURSE....
Jan 09th 2013
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DC is a cursed sports city. Bryce Harper needs to leave ASAP.
Jan 09th 2013
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Shanahan got the keys to Ferrari and drove it into a pole
Jan 09th 2013
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just such a miserable way to end a season
Jan 09th 2013
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      oh it's just the worst. The worst.
Jan 09th 2013
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      It's basically the only way this season could've been a
Jan 09th 2013
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      Finally relevant and now we'll be without the qb.
Jan 09th 2013
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Ironically, none of his injuries came on designed runs
Jan 09th 2013
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doesn't matter, the fact that they never installed a real QB offense
Jan 09th 2013
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6th best offense in the NFL
Jan 09th 2013
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which amounts to so very little it's funny you even brought it up
Jan 09th 2013
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RE: which amounts to so very little it's funny you even brought it up
Jan 09th 2013
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      RE: which amounts to so very little it's funny you even brought it up
Jan 09th 2013
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and yet you're still blaming the coach?
Jan 09th 2013
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      For not taking RG3 out
Jan 09th 2013
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      exactly, he's mad at the coach for playing him but not mad at
Jan 09th 2013
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           Nice try.
Jan 09th 2013
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                RE: Nice try.
Jan 09th 2013
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                     Yes, your predictions about RG3's career are well noted.
Jan 09th 2013
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                          I made no prediction other than to say he was being done a disservice
Jan 09th 2013
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im curious as to why you call the zone read a gimmick?
Jan 09th 2013
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because ultimately you need a QB to not depend on his legs
Jan 09th 2013
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      fair enough. i still am convinced it can work in the NFL
Jan 10th 2013
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damn...you regurgitate talking points like skip bayless on fox news....
Jan 10th 2013
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      easy to stay saying the same thing while they stay doing the same thing
Jan 10th 2013
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           well maybe try drinking less and paying more attention when games are on
Jan 10th 2013
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                dawg, I been saying this shit since day one, the monkeys on the radio/TV
Jan 10th 2013
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                     yet you questioned why Shanny was dumb enuf to draft a 2nd QB
Jan 10th 2013
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                          yes, I did, because I didn't know at the draft he planned on treating
Jan 10th 2013
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                               too bad the facts dont actually support this serious exaggeration
Jan 10th 2013
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                                    sure they do, you just invested & taking a blind-eye to them
Jan 10th 2013
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                                         um, you are aware Griff ran LESS as the season went on, right?
Jan 10th 2013
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                                              of course he did (once he got hurt in Baltimore) thats not the point tho
Jan 10th 2013
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                                                   it was happening BEFORE the Bmore game
Jan 10th 2013
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                                                        uh-huh, guess the fact that he was running all over in that game
Jan 10th 2013
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                                                             Griff's designed running plays went down after the 1st philly game
Jan 10th 2013
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                                                                  Shanny put the short-term over the long-term with this kid all season
Jan 10th 2013
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                                                                       "you play to win the game"
Jan 11th 2013
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Shanny thinks the ACL tear happened the play before the bad snap...
Jan 09th 2013
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      Shanny thinks a lot of hilarious shit.
Jan 09th 2013
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           You expect him to defend the field though...
Jan 09th 2013
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           Naw there was no defending that, it was an abysmal field to play on
Jan 09th 2013
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           Lying about it achieves nothing.
Jan 09th 2013
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           remember when he thought McNabb could be redeemed? lolololo
Jan 09th 2013
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           Remember when he thought 1-legged Bob
Jan 09th 2013
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           so shanny should've demanded the game postponed?
Jan 10th 2013
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                Post 98. Lying about it achieves nothing.
Jan 11th 2013
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According to Schefter....
Jan 09th 2013
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I don't even fux with NFL and I was cussing at the TV this weekend
Jan 09th 2013
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Shanahans are a smart bunch!
Jan 09th 2013
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GILBERT.ARENAS.REHAB.PROGRAM/HOLD.GRIFF.BACK.
Jan 09th 2013
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He tore his knee in 2009 and didn't rush back.
Jan 09th 2013
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hope so- name dropped AD at presser though...
Jan 09th 2013
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This is on Bob, though. He's going to push himself
Jan 09th 2013
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      in other words- it's not on Bob.
Jan 09th 2013
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yep. i say just wash 2013 and bring him back 2014
Jan 09th 2013
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      nah, that's too far- only if he has complications...
Jan 09th 2013
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it's gonna be sad to watch him limp through all those subway commercials
Jan 09th 2013
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Thomas Davis tore his ACL 3 times
Jan 09th 2013
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who?
Jan 09th 2013
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Bummer
Jan 10th 2013
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I don't care how young he is... two ACL tears ain't good.
Jan 10th 2013
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Pictures of the death shack
Jan 10th 2013
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If thats a toilet behind the curtain that room is actually pretty useful
Jan 10th 2013
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I think it's a slop sink, which is useful to throw brushes & rollers in
Jan 10th 2013
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      wiff
Jan 10th 2013
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looking like the room where they put horses down
Jan 10th 2013
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      It's so weird. It's literally made out of plywood.
Jan 10th 2013
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      Barnbaro at FedExField n/m
Jan 10th 2013
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im amazed at how many ppl were apparently on the sidelines Sunday
Jan 10th 2013
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the repressed glee so many of yall are expressing in ur commentary...
Jan 10th 2013
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it's not pacquiao getting knocked out repressed glee level by any
Jan 10th 2013
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boxing analogies are lost on me homie
Jan 10th 2013
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      point is there's no reason to nail yourself to the cross
Jan 10th 2013
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           ive never seen an injury greeted w/ so many jokes & "told you so's"
Jan 10th 2013
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RE: the repressed glee so many of yall are expressing in ur commentary.....
Jan 10th 2013
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i can read between the lines...
Jan 10th 2013
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Dude, your fuck ass org doesn't care about RG or his career
Jan 10th 2013
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more regurgitated crap w/ no evidence
Jan 10th 2013
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      Shanahan said it himself that Snyder had to sell him on Griff
Jan 10th 2013
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           so you & others assume that the Skins purposefully pissed away...
Jan 10th 2013
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                No. I know they're a bunch a greedy fuck who don't care about
Jan 10th 2013
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                     theyre greedy, so they flush their cash cow for short term playoff succe...
Jan 10th 2013
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to be honest
Jan 10th 2013
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      well the assumption that this *only* happened bc he's a Skin is asinine
Jan 10th 2013
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           and now you understand why I was mad in that *other* post
Jan 10th 2013
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           I think most coaches commit this fuckup honestly.
Jan 10th 2013
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I am absolutely not worried. At all.
Jan 10th 2013
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im not concerned right now either
Jan 10th 2013
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Who did AP's knee? Bob need to holla at him
Jan 10th 2013
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      Dr. James Andrews, of course, same guy who does all of em
Jan 10th 2013
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           Just wiki'd this guy. Didn't realize he was the GOAT sports Doctor nm.
Jan 10th 2013
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                his resume is unreal n/m
Jan 10th 2013
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                There is no one like him in sports
Jan 10th 2013
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                     what has me blown about that dude is he doesn't even really specialize
Jan 10th 2013
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                          Young think about how knowledgable about the human body this
Jan 11th 2013
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                               He needs a CSI: Pro Athlete Ligaments show.
Jan 11th 2013
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                damn, honestly fam?
Jan 13th 2013
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lol
Jan 11th 2013
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=\
Jan 12th 2013
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It's worse than they thought.
Jan 13th 2013
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Crazy. Hope they start listening to Doctors.
Jan 13th 2013
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Masturbatory garbage.
Jan 13th 2013
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^
Jan 13th 2013
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nah, it's bad. his knee will be full-on arthritic by 27
Jan 13th 2013
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Cool prediction.
Jan 13th 2013
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      you right. i don't. my bad.
Jan 13th 2013
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right. cartilage damage is nothing.
Jan 13th 2013
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      The article was garbage.
Jan 13th 2013
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           I think the 'new' info is that he might not start next season.
Jan 13th 2013
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                one anonymous source
Jan 13th 2013
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counterpoint:
Jan 13th 2013
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      Yup.
Jan 13th 2013
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      wait, what? I don't get the McNair thing at all. McNair played awhile.
Jan 13th 2013
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           Wrong.
Jan 13th 2013
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                lol @ 'wrong' then not disputing a single thing I actually said.
Jan 13th 2013
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                     You make a great point but I don't think McNabb or Culpepper
Jan 13th 2013
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                          RGIII does look accurate thus far but he also isn't asked to pass
Jan 13th 2013
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                               again, anyone that actually watched us knows that's bullshit.
Jan 14th 2013
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                                    I watched half your games & saw every snap of McNabb's 00 season
Jan 14th 2013
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murph71
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1. "RE: Torn ACL/LCL. 9-12 month recovery. Fuck sports."
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Has nothing to do with "sports"....

It's all on the coach....

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2. "RE: Torn ACL/LCL. 9-12 month recovery. Fuck sports."
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>Why does this feel like Sean Taylor

I ain't gonna go that far. Ain't no coming back from death.

This feels more like Arenas without all the silliness...I hope that he listens to the docs this time and does EXACTLY what he needs to come back.

Way better than 14 months though...

  

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3. "man RG3 aint dead. chill."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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4. "damn, I just read it was torn LCL.....4-6"
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and they wouldn't know about the ACL for sure til they got in there.

Okay player...so you can type whatever you wanna type, but I still write better than anybody you like - Torae

  

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5. "fuck sports?"
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learn some physics.

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But hell, what do I know?

  

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6. "i knew that chickenshit franchise would ruin him"
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even i didn't think it would only take 1 season.

fuck snyder, fuck shanahan, fuck the racists.

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107. "^^^ supports dog killing"
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143. "enjoy that cellar for the next decade "
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184. "even on one leg, Chip Kelly comes if you've got Griffin"
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unfortunately you don't have have a one-legged Griffin or anything else resembling winning pro quarterback material on your roster right now so he gave ya'll the deuces. Have fun toiling at the bottom of the NFC East for the next five years dawg.

  

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197. "right, Chip Kelly is worth crying about"
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209. "i so wanted the hot college coach. they always work out."
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foh

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7. "Overreacted, just super blown"
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8. "Adrian Peterson."
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*Jews you*

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Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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11. "Blew his knee on the same field too..."
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Should really blame Snyder for having a shit field...

  

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14. "*adds Chris Clemons*"
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Okay player...so you can type whatever you wanna type, but I still write better than anybody you like - Torae

  

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15. "nothing will ever top the evil turf at the Vet (where Curtis Conway"
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blew out both knees in a non-contact collision with his feet versus the ground).

But of the currently existing fields, it's pretty well-regarded as the league's worst.

It's also a horrible stadium in general, probably the worst I've ever been in & amazingly was antiquated within five years of opening.

  

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19. "that wasn't Curtis Conway...it was Wendell Davis"
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20. "damn, you're right, for some reason I think I've made that mistake befor..."
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in switching those two guys.

Sidenote: I didn't realize Conway was married to Laila Ali. Trojan Man!

  

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12. "there's a story somewhere about AP's comeback"
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and how his knee when they opened him up looked like a newborn's. He's a medical anomaly. A miracle if you believe in em.

RGIII's already torn this acl. With acl comebacks being almost common these days, I think he'll be fine. But he won't see the field til opening day 2014.

  

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17. "Bob's ACL was already held together with rubber bands and bubble gum"
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He definitely won't be coming back like AP

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46. "he doesnt need to tho"
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30. "It was on Grantland"
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9. "on the plus side, maybe they now actually design an offense fit for a QB"
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55. "lol true"
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65. "Agreed..."
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You can't be putting him unnecessarily in harm's way on a lot off those designed runs.


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134. "then again, he wasnt injured on any designed runs, just scrambles"
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222. "Wear-and-tear. They were still running him when he knee was shot..."
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...in the last game.

Designed runs add to the damage, when your knee is being held together with bubblegum and shoe laces. Don't run him if you don't absolutely have to.

Since the Baltimore game injury, he shouldn't have been taking those read option run plays. The wore out an already worn-out knee, ultimately until it collapsed.

Now two ACL surgeries in, you may need to be re-thinking the gameplan and lessening the impact of him taking additional unnecessary hits going forward.

Just saying.



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10. "nothing that would have happened this year, was worth 2013"
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so dumb, shortsighted, and preventable.

he isn't elway trying to get that elusive ring
he isn't cap rooney holding onto glory
he's a rookie with 15 yrs of greatness ahead of him, and folks wanna risk a wheel for the right to get their asses kicked in the next round.

the wholesale stupidity that is Snyder Inc. is why Clippers and Knicks fans are always waiting for the ax to drop.

He'll be fine in 2014. Just..so goddamn dumb.

  

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25. "RE: nothing that would have happened this year, was worth 2013"
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>so dumb, shortsighted, and preventable.
>
>he isn't elway trying to get that elusive ring
>he isn't cap rooney holding onto glory
>he's a rookie with 15 yrs of greatness ahead of him, and folks
>wanna risk a wheel for the right to get their asses kicked in
>the next round.
>
>the wholesale stupidity that is Snyder Inc. is why Clippers
>and Knicks fans are always waiting for the ax to drop.



This^^^^^^^^^

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13. "Please stop with these posts...."
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At any point a player can go down. They looked at that dude and green lit him. Shit happens. He'll be ok, he's young. Calm the fuck down. This isn't a Randall Cunningham situation.....the surgery is so much more advanced now and it's a HUGE help that he's young. Plus you have Cousins to play if he can't come back right away. Chill. Seriously. This is the NFL. Grown man shit. If RG3 blew his shit out in the Super Bowl and won you'd be all on his dick and Shannys too. Either way, get used to this shit with the emphasis on head injuries and concussions, knees are gonna be blown out.

Dream with your eyes open.....

  

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16. "Even more reprehensible imo."
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>At any point a player can go down. They looked at that dude
>and green lit him.

Considering the state of medical imaging.

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26. "RE: Even more reprehensible imo."
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>>At any point a player can go down. They looked at that
>dude
>>and green lit him.
>
>Considering the state of medical imaging.


Not true...The first time they did...The second time Dr. Andrews said he was not even able to get a look at him...He also told the coach that it may not be a good idea to play him given that his knee was being held together by chewing gum...

And beyond all that, when everyone saw that RG3 was limping with 14 points already on the board any sensible coach would have taken him out...

There's no way of downplaying this...I'm glad I'm not a Skins fan...This is some bullshit...SMH...

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21. "you don't put your franchise rookie qb on the field with a partial"
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ACL tear. ESPECIALLY since he already had knee surgery once in college.

And then if you are dumb enough to do that shit, you don't keep him out there when it's pretty obvious he's tweaked it again and has ZERO mobility.

I mean, there really is no way this isn't fucked up on the skins part.

  

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129. "^^^^"
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136. "what?"
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you have some new info?

they knew his ACL was torn before yesterday?

please give proof

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37. "This is a really, really dumb agenda."
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18. "I really hope he comes back from this"
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and just goes full Adrian Peterson on the entire league.

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23. "only AP can do that."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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22. "Torn LCL, acl tear TBD during surgery "
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The former is a 6 month recovery, the latter around 12 months (AP notwithstanding obviously).

Is there a new report stating that dude does indeed have a torn ACL because from what I understood, MRI's weren't conclusive and it will be determined tomm when they scope out his knee.

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29. "no new information, your post is accurate"
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24. "only the R*dskins could fuck up Robert Griffin's rookie year"
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what a note to end on.

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27. "I should have posted this in the Shanahan bash thread but..."
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A lot of people miss that he played this whole thing like a game of chess. He sacrificed RGIII for Cousins, knowing full well the Redskins weren't going to make a Super Bowl run this year. You decide if that makes RGIII a rook and Cousins is the queen. Hear me out.

Look at the unending tire fire that is the Jets. That team had a QB controversy that will not abate even now especially since the coach has a tattoo. Stuck in a situation between a QB he wanted and a QB the owner wanted, Rex Ryan couldn't handle it... for whatever reason which I'm sure you will reply with.

After the draft, there were slight media hubbub starting up about the drafting of Cousins so soon after Griffin and conspiracy theories flew. Shanny did the right thing and got in front of it, named Griffin the starter almost immediately.

Shanahan knows that he has to deal with the hype of a top 5 pick and if he'd rather have Cousins then all he has to do is let Griffin run himself into the ground while having his back at the same time.

Rest assured Shanny will have Cousins ready for the world in 2013 and if Cousins balls out then he's in the catbird seat. Then Griffin can be dealt for picks and get a starting job based on 2012, Cousins is the future of the Redskins for the immediate future and Shanahan takes the heat off himself. Everyone wins except Griffin who will lose the next season.

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28. "He isn't that calculated man"
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He's certainly a narcissist. Obviously he lacks foresight.

But accusing him of deliberately destroying Robert Griffin just to get to Kirk Cousins? Come on dude.

  

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39. "He didn't have to do anything but let Griffin play his kind of game"
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on that awful field.

If Cousins can't get it done, people will clamor for Griffin once he's healthy and Shanahan will oblige them, as he should. Either way, he bought himself some time in a league where coaches don't stick around too long.

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48. "he already had time regardless"
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189. "what leads you to believe that he is not?"
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i haven't seen anything in shanahan's character
for me to believe otherwise. this argument
is absolutely plausible.

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67. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNHuqHWefU"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNHuqHWefU

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85. "why did I know what this was gonna be b4 I clicked? lmao."
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106. "Authentic discourse"
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNHuqHWefU

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162. "...you know I was replying to you, right?"
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177. "you know I was being sarcastic, right?"
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188. "not sure why this was posted"
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i wouldn't put anything past that dude.
they like cousins, that's why they drafted
him. you think if cousins was hobbling
around like rgiii that they would not have pulled
him at the appropriate time?

and fuck that, "he didn't want to go out" argument.
that shit is pathetic and snake-like.

in time, this era will fold like all the
other eras under this organization (snyder).

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68. "That's a very interesting theory..."
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What's particularly interesting is where you said he would have Cousins "ready for the world in 2013". I think the offense you see Cousins running next year will be the offense they SHOULD of had RGIII running this season.

The game that Cousins started was the more traditional Mike Shanahan/Kyle Shanahan offense, with the bootleg/play action dynamic working off of the power running game. That is what I (and a lot of people) envisioned they would be installing with Griffin this season. Instead, we got this gimmicky pistol/read option BS, which is fine as a wrinkle, but not as a base offense, unless you want to get your QB killed out there (see Griffin).

So now the Shanahans have reset their clock with the built-in RGIII injury/coaching up Cousins (almost rookie for next year). Meanwhile Cousins (the gym rat), has a year of study and prep in the REAL offense. I definitely think he will come out on fire next year, with all of the prep he's been able to get this season as back-up and all of the coming off-season getting all of the starters reps.

Ultimately, running the offense that RGIII should have been running.


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149. "christ jesus"
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the most bizarre thing about modern sports analysis has to be the idiots like you who propose outlandish theories w/ absolutely zero evidence

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186. "I didn't realize I needed to supply a bibliography with my posts."
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191. "no biblio needed, just any shred of reference to verified reality"
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196. "You can't tell that this was a theory? or conjecture?"
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31. "That nygga shouldve sat his ass down"
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OE be trollin but theres some truth to what hes saying

RG3 was scared of Cousins getting shine

and add on how he prolly didnt want to lose the rookie spotlight to luck and wilson

dude was being a warrior for selfish reasons imo

I dont question his desire to win

dude is a true competitor

But he got in his own way with this shyt

Nobody would've been questioning his toughness after how he performed in the cowboy game and the 1st half of the seattle game

shanny is at fault too

he knew RG3 wasn't going to take himself out

Thats when he shouldve took his helmet
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33. "Here's why this is such a complex situation "
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Everything here, for better and for worse, goes through Robert Griffin.

We won the division and went to the playoffs because of him.

We're without our franchise quarterback next year because of him, first in his foolishly running TOWARDS Haloti Ngata and then not benching himself last Sunday against Seattle (yes Shanny deserves blame too, but Griffin is the captain and should've been more accountable.)

This I suppose is the price of doing business with the RGIII or Peyton Manning types. When a transformational player lands in an environment that is so desperate for success, both highs and lows are experienced in extremes. This isn't like Roethlisberger or Eli falling into organizations with quality talent already in place. This is instead an example of hitching your wagon to one player and hanging on for the entire ride, one that's going to be smooth at times and bumpy at others.

  

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34. "RE: Here's why this is such a complex situation "
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You guys are putting way too much on a Rookie...He's just a kid...of course he's going to be selfish and foolhardy...That's what kids do...

But Coach Shanny on the other hand....

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35. "Exactly."
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Few pro athletes are capable of taking themselves out.

It's hard to make it to the pros if you're not a very competitive person.

Griffin is 22. He's a kid.

He made a mistake, but this was Shanahan's responsibility, not Bob's.

This is the head coach's (and team prez!) call.

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36. "I don't disagree with this at all."
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49. "he didnt run towards ngata"
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"and FWIW, that was a drop back passing play"


  

          

a 4th down scramble to save the game.

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32. "Easily one of the biggest coaching blunders "
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in recent memory.

People have been fired for less.

Depending on rehab, it's possible Mike Shanahan just ruined the franchise for years.

More likely is that RG3 rehabs well and comes back at some point, and by that time we have a real GM and a coach who doesn't do things like this.

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54. "It's not an accident that Cousins was picked..."
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Cousins won't be RG3, but he'll keep you guys in the division hunt...

Just hope RG3 doesn't rush back from it...

Thomas Davis tore his ACL three times in the same knee and played the full season this year...and he plays Linebacker...

RG3 will be more of a pocket passer upon his return...

  

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57. "Bob finna get on that same Body By Hostess rehab plan as Wall. "
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come off of surgery lookin like a lightweight jared lorenzen.

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58. "You clearly don't know Griff"
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He's one of the hardest workers on the team, he'll be in shape when he comes back, he's not going to sit by and be all smooth like wall.

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61. "he's an AP type, fuck around and come back in BETTER shape"
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108. "as a fan, watching the game"
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At no point before he was forced to leave did I honestly say, I wish they take RG III out of the game. So I can't 20/20 hindsight Shanny on this one. It was a tight game and I thought RG III still gave us the best chance to win. Point blank

  

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141. "I didn't want them to win"
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and I still thought "they've gotta take him out after this drive" on the second TD drive where he very clearly came up limping.

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193. "I did."
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As soon as I saw him literally barely able to walk back the huddle (right before his 2nd TD pass) I started questioning it.

Then after one more possession it was obvious he was going to be completely ineffective.

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38. "At least you got John Wall"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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40. "*avatar quote*"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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41. "Hey fuck them. I hope my dude balls out then bounces..."
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the first chance he gets and leaves them niggaz wearing high ass Walt "Wizard" Williams socks & bumping E.U. "Best of" cassettes.

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42. "^^^Livin Large"
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>the first chance he gets and leaves them niggaz wearing high
>ass Walt "Wizard" Williams socks & bumping E.U. "Best of"
>cassettes.

  

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51. "John Wall doesn't bounce. John Wall jiggles."
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74. "Used to love Walt Williams LOL, Kerry Kittles had the ill sock game tho"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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43. "bring him back 2014 and fix the damn field."
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shit is terrible.

6-8 month recovery sound like the low end of projections. if everything goes perfect.

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44. "I know it's a truly selfish time to think about my keepers."
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But FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

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90. "I traded away RGIII in Week 1 (keeper league). I feel dirty, but fuck it..."
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I'M STYLIN' ON 'EM!

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45. "ESPN saying 6 to 8 month recovery"
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He may be ready for the season opener

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47. "Cowboys still won't win the division... *smh*"
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50. "9 months absolute max"
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52. "Official word per Mortensen: 6-8 month recovery"
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71. "No, that's Mort "unnamed sources". Not official at all."
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They won't even know the extent of damage to other ligaments until they finish surgery this morning.

The idea that you could tear two ligaments and be back in 6-8 seems extremely unlikely.

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110. "seems more official than 14-16, no?"
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53. "What was wrong with the field?"
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I work up the street and lives the ten miles away berthed conditions weren't like that. It was cold, MAYBE moist but really was pretty dry I'm the area. But web I turned on the game I had to check the weather like I had missed something.

  

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56. "shit was like the surface of the moon fam"
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59. "I'm not sure who the head groundsman is, but for the last 3 years"
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That field has been terrible. They used to have the best grass field in the league, but now it looks like slop by week 9. I'm not sure if they're not putting tarp on it, or resoding during the bye week or what, but this shit was a disaster this year. It looked brown with no grass from Thanskgiving on.

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60. "given our newfound speed, we should just go with turf"
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63. "Uh...Turf is worse on knees, doggie"
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77. "CORRECT, if fools are tearing ligaments tha's because there"
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Was no grass, they were playing on dirt.

Turf is doubly maybe even triply tough on the joints.

They just need to hire a new groundsman.

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84. "Field Turf, yeah, but something like Sportexe Momentum is better"
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Conditionally, Sportexe 51 (Ravens, Saints) and some of the newer panel blends (whatever it is Dallas plays on) coming out may perform better than grass in seasonal situations, such as the cluster last weekend. At the very least, they need to look at a hybrid system like GrassMaster that the Eagles/Broncos use, because standard grass just doesn't hold this late in the year north of Florida.

  

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93. "The Redskins fields have always been grass and until recenty"
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Have always been great playing surfaces. They're not the chopped up fields like pittsburgh.

You may have a point with some of the hybrid fields, but the house that jerry built was designed that way because its a multi functional facility. Between 3-4 big concerts a year, multiple college and HS games being played on that same field, plus the boxing events and whatever else jErry can get in the door it would make sense to hve that sort or surface.

The weather here hasn't been terrible so i'm not sure why the field is in such terrible shape. If anything the weather has been milder than most winters so this is on the groundscrew.

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99. "Uh, no."
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>RE: Uh...Turf is worse on knees, doggie

Uh no, it's not.

Not the latest fields. They're as good as most grass or better.

And your point is moot if the Redskins keep literally painting brown dirt green and calling it an NFL field.

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127. "FieldTurf (14 stadiums in the league, I think) has an 80% higher rate"
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of injury for knee and ankle injuries. The company claims that the injury rate is due to players, specifically linemen, who wear improperly long cleats. But yeah, the league released a study last year that validated that number for that specific type of artificial surface, which is now like a 14 year old technology. The newer artificials are thought to be better because they allow for twisting.

  

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70. "right before kickoff, they said the field was PAINTED GREEN *link*"
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it was something like "if not for paint, this field would be completely brown, so expect some footwork problems"

http://deadspin.com/5973748/the-redskins-were-done-in-by-their-own-crappy-field

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73. "I read something about concerts and college games"
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but it sounds like bullshit.

If anyone is surprised that Dan Snyder tried to cut corners with that stadium, I have a bridge to sell you.

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62. "Prediction: He rushes back, is terribly rusty , controversy ensues"
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He won't be working on his craft this year; he'll
have to rehab the knee full-time. This is the worst
part about the injury -- not the knee itself, but the
fact that he can't throw, improve as a QB

Cousins will be improving as a passer from tomorrow
on, will get to run routes, get more accurate, go to
mini-camp, etc

RG3 knows this, and will rush back because of it

He should COMFORTABLY miss the 2013 season, giving
the knee PROPER time to heal, also giving himself the
proper time to have run an offense with the new knee

Its different for a QB than a RB

He'll almost certainly rush


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66. "that's the thing. his pre-season work ethic and preparation coming"
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into this season was much-touted

He played well and was prepared because he worked so hard

That's what will be the most frustrating for the dude during rehabilitation

when he does come back he will still need to play catch up

  

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125. "I'm deathly afraid of this, and his post-game comments hint at the ego"
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64. "Feels like Taylor, because it's part of the same CURSE...."
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n/m

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69. "DC is a cursed sports city. Bryce Harper needs to leave ASAP."
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75. "Shanahan got the keys to Ferrari and drove it into a pole"
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Honestly I don't want him to rush back, i'd rather him sit out and get his shit straight. I'm sure he'll be working hard as shit to get right but I hope they don't let him rush.

They fucked up once, I hope they just put him on the PUP to start the season and let him rest.

I'm blown, at least now we all know what the injury is and we can move on to supporting that KC Masterpiece until Griff gets healthy.

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76. "just such a miserable way to end a season"
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I finally actually excited. Franchise QB in a QB league. We were guaranteed to be relevant.

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79. "oh it's just the worst. The worst. "
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We were poised to have like 5 primetime games next year.

  

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81. "It's basically the only way this season could've been a "
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disappointment.

I mean, it's not like he's dead. He'll rehab. Hopefully we get a better coach and a better GM. But still.

No matter how the season ended, I was going to be excited about having one of the best young QBs in the NFL.

Only Snyderahan could manage to shit on that excitement.

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88. "Finally relevant and now we'll be without the qb. "
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I'm so tired of the Spin, stop trying to spin it.

Just say he's done for next year, the Nats went a year without strausberg, they can do a year without Griff its for his well being. Let him sit.

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78. "Ironically, none of his injuries came on designed runs"
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Not a single one.

Concussion: rolling out on a pass play

Ngata hit: regular drop back pass, scramble on 4th down to keep the game alive

Reinjury, 1st Q, vs Seattle: rolling out on a pass play

Torn knee: scrambling to pick up a fumble on a regular pass play.

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80. "doesn't matter, the fact that they never installed a real QB offense"
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instead relying on zone-reads/design runs/gimmicks as a base offense was part of the problem.

Could do nothing in the long-run but help enocourage unsustainable habits & expose the franchise QB to more hits than he should have taken.

Like when DRose went down in a crumpled heap in Game 1 of last year's playoff, it likely wasn't really 'that play' that did it.

That was just the final saturation point for that joint but it was going to happen one way or the other soon based on the wear/tear of that season & point in his career.

Shanny & Company sold this kid's long-term development short for short-term gains every step of the way so far.

Bob, Skins Fans & the organization are all now paying the price.

  

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86. "6th best offense in the NFL"
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virtually no passing weapons to speak of.

one of the worst defenses in the league, easily one of the worst in the playoffs.

Yet they went 10-6.

you're selling this offense way too short.

Should they consider more of a hybrid offense? Sure.

Does the failure of Randall Cunningham and Mike Vick to ever win anything mean nobody should try to invent new hyrbid offenses in the NFL?

fuck no.

There is literally almost nothing Mike Vick and Bob Griffin have in common except speed.

Not in smarts. Not in work ethic. Not in college PASSING experience.

Nothing.

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91. "which amounts to so very little it's funny you even brought it up"
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>virtually no passing weapons to speak of.
>
>one of the worst defenses in the league, easily one of the
>worst in the playoffs.
>
>Yet they went 10-6.
>
LOL @ 10-6 mattering.

It was never about this year to people actually accustomed to winning.

>you're selling this offense way too short.
>
This offense sold Bob Griffin short, that is the issue.

Let him get on with the business of being a quarterback, like he was drafted to be.

>Should they consider more of a hybrid offense? Sure.
>
>Does the failure of Randall Cunningham and Mike Vick to ever
>win anything mean nobody should try to invent new hyrbid
>offenses in the NFL?
>
Randall Cunningham had a pretty nice career, so I don't know why you're trying to make him out to be garbage to cop pleas for this insane set-up of Shanny's.

Holla at me when Bob gets to one MVP season let alone two like Randall.

>fuck no.
>
>There is literally almost nothing Mike Vick and Bob Griffin
>have in common except speed.
>
You act like Vick was garbage, he was actually better coming out of college than Bob was.

>Not in smarts. Not in work ethic. Not in college PASSING
>experience.
>
Vick took VATECH to the national-title game as a 19-year-old, if he had hung around as long as Bob did the Heisman would not have been an issue.

This offense got in the way of Bob's learning curve on how to be a real QB in this league.

You can keep creating diversions to make it about Mike Vick or some other strawman but the song remains the same in regards to RGIII's 'development' which now will be spending its first offseason in rehab.

  

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97. "RE: which amounts to so very little it's funny you even brought it up"
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>LOL @ 10-6 mattering.

LOL at you ignoring my point.

10-6 for a team with very little talent on it * * is a sign of what Bob did this year, as he was one of the only good players on the roster. * *

If you think 10-6 wasn't an achievement for this shitty ass roster, go ahead and and explain how great these players are.

>This offense sold Bob Griffin short, that is the issue.

6th best offense in the league. In the MVP discussion. Probable ROY or ROY runner up. One of the best rookie seasons in NFL history.

Yeah, this offense sure wasted his talents, didn't it?



>
>Let him get on with the business of being a quarterback, like
>he was drafted to be.
>
>>Should they consider more of a hybrid offense? Sure.
>>
>>Does the failure of Randall Cunningham and Mike Vick to ever
>>win anything mean nobody should try to invent new hyrbid
>>offenses in the NFL?
>>
>Randall Cunningham had a pretty nice career, so I don't know
>why you're trying to make him out to be garbage to cop pleas
>for this insane set-up of Shanny's.

You're the one crying about running QBs, you tell me.

>
>Holla at me when Bob gets to one MVP season let alone two like
>Randall.
>
>You act like Vick was garbage, he was actually better coming
>out of college than Bob was.

As a PASSER, which you seem to be so obsessed with, Vick was NOT better coming out of college.

Which is it? Vick was a good QB in college and Bob was a good QB this year, or neither.

You can't have it both ways.


>
>>Not in smarts. Not in work ethic. Not in college PASSING
>>experience.
>>
>Vick took VATECH to the national-title game as a 19-year-old,
>if he had hung around as long as Bob did the Heisman would not
>have been an issue.
>
>This offense got in the way of Bob's learning curve on how to
>be a real QB in this league.


Ah yes, back to your nebulous, unprovable theory about Bob's future.

You should probably wait until he has at least one bad season before you try keep pimping this useless theory.

You're 0 for 1 so far.


>
>You can keep creating diversions to make it about Mike Vick or
>some other strawman but the song remains the same in regards
>to RGIII's 'development' which now will be spending its first
>offseason in rehab.

You're the one who mentions Vick and other "running" QBs in Bob posts. Do you need me to link to those posts or do you want to stop pretending?

The Redskins brought a new offense to the NFL this year.

One that finished 6th, despite have precisely three good players on it.

Forgive us for not giving a shit about your predictions for Bob's skills as a QB.

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115. "RE: which amounts to so very little it's funny you even brought it up"
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>>LOL @ 10-6 mattering.
>
>LOL at you ignoring my point.
>
>10-6 for a team with very little talent on it * * is a sign of
>what Bob did this year, as he was one of the only good players
>on the roster. * *
>
>If you think 10-6 wasn't an achievement for this shitty ass
>roster, go ahead and and explain how great these players are.
>
I'm under no obligation to explain how 'great' his cast is.

His cast wasn't great.

It was better than Luck's, which is why they won 5 games last year as opposed to Indy's two, however they had holes.

Has nothing to do with installing an offense that will be one the franchise QB can successfully grow into & with for a long productive career.

>>This offense sold Bob Griffin short, that is the issue.
>
>6th best offense in the league. In the MVP discussion.
>Probable ROY or ROY runner up. One of the best rookie seasons
>in NFL history.
>
Short-term win with a ROY trophy, long term loss because they didn't start the process of letting him become an NFL QB.

>Yeah, this offense sure wasted his talents, didn't it?
>
yup.
>
>
>>
>>Let him get on with the business of being a quarterback,
>like
>>he was drafted to be.
>>
>>>Should they consider more of a hybrid offense? Sure.
>>>
>>>Does the failure of Randall Cunningham and Mike Vick to
>ever
>>>win anything mean nobody should try to invent new hyrbid
>>>offenses in the NFL?
>>>
>>Randall Cunningham had a pretty nice career, so I don't know
>>why you're trying to make him out to be garbage to cop pleas
>>for this insane set-up of Shanny's.
>
>You're the one crying about running QBs, you tell me.
>
The crying ain't on my end, I'm just stating the truth as someone who's actually seen how this plays out.
>>
>>Holla at me when Bob gets to one MVP season let alone two
>like
>>Randall.
>>
>>You act like Vick was garbage, he was actually better coming
>>out of college than Bob was.
>
>As a PASSER, which you seem to be so obsessed with, Vick was
>NOT better coming out of college.
>
yeah, he was actually, Vick had shown plenty of passing tools coming out of college which is why was part of why he took a never-was program to the national-title game & why folks were fighting over trying to trade for him as the first overall pick.

>Which is it? Vick was a good QB in college and Bob was a good
>QB this year, or neither.
>
>You can't have it both ways.
>
lol, wut.

The college game & success in it is completely different in the NFL, that should be obvious to anyone with half a brain.

The point is that the Redskins needed to start working on making RGIII an NFL QB rather than selling him short & installing an offense that was an extension of a college scheme.

That was short-sighted bordering on stupid but hey, they won ten games & got a playoff appearance out of it.

Whoopty-damn-do(c)D.C.
>
>>
>>>Not in smarts. Not in work ethic. Not in college PASSING
>>>experience.
>>>
>>Vick took VATECH to the national-title game as a
>19-year-old,
>>if he had hung around as long as Bob did the Heisman would
>not
>>have been an issue.
>>
>>This offense got in the way of Bob's learning curve on how
>to
>>be a real QB in this league.
>
>
>Ah yes, back to your nebulous, unprovable theory about Bob's
>future.
>
I don't claim to know what RGIII's future holds, just that this gimmicky shit Shanny had him running (unlike the system he put in place for late Elway, Young Griese, Young Cutler & even Cousins on his own team) was not in line with building for a long career as a passer.

>You should probably wait until he has at least one bad season
>before you try keep pimping this useless theory.
>
>You're 0 for 1 so far.
>
lmao, sure I am.
>
>>
>>You can keep creating diversions to make it about Mike Vick
>or
>>some other strawman but the song remains the same in regards
>>to RGIII's 'development' which now will be spending its
>first
>>offseason in rehab.
>
>You're the one who mentions Vick and other "running" QBs in
>Bob posts. Do you need me to link to those posts or do you
>want to stop pretending?
>
Nah, you keep trying to crowbar Vick or Randall (both of whom had success at various points in their career including two MVP's for Randall) into some kind of convo as proof that they sucked but relying on your quarterback's legs as an offense is still sound but it isn't.

If Randall had been in that Billick system he shredded the league with in Minnesota during his early career, his already-good career would have been better.

Just like if Shanny had trusted RGIII to make his QB have more than one read per snap along with passing at a far higher ratio than this asinine 2-to-1 ratio he rolled out there with (like, for instance, the way Reid did with Donovan in his first five years) then you'd have a sunnier long-term outlook for the QB you just spent three first-rounders on.

>The Redskins brought a new offense to the NFL this year.
>
A 'new offense' that looked like a college gimmick & fails to hone the skills that need honing.

We all know RGIII can run.

Some of us also understand that's not a skill you base a pro franchise around.

>One that finished 6th, despite have precisely three good
>players on it.
>
Smoke-and-mirrors.

Let your quarterback play quarterback.

>Forgive us for not giving a shit about your predictions for
>Bob's skills as a QB.
>
See, I made no comment on his skills, you're just mad.

Now RGIII is going to spend his offseason in rehab while you manage to cry about Shanny playing him while at the same time justifying the way he played him while he was in there.

Oh well, not my problem.

I'll just continue to keep it one-hundred.

They sold this kid short. That's obvious already & will continue to become moreso if they don't learn from it like you apparently refuse to do.

  

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111. "and yet you're still blaming the coach?"
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Something in the water does not compute

  

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114. "For not taking RG3 out"
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Before he tore up his knee - and for what? To be completely ineffective, get 40 yards and 0 points, and lose the game?

Uh, yeah.

Shanahan did a masterfully awful job in that game. One of the worst coaching mistakes in recent history.

He'll be lucky if he didn't permanently hurt RG3 or the franchise.

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116. "exactly, he's mad at the coach for playing him but not mad at"
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the coach for refusing to develop him the way he has every other QB he's ever coached.

Which is it?

  

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119. "Nice try."
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The Shanaclan developed a great offense this year. Plus one in that category. Gold star.

Shanahan also risked (and ruined) RG3's knee and in return got 40 yards, 0 points and a playoff loss.

Frowny face.

That's one in the minus category.

See how both opinions can be true?

Pretty simple.

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121. "RE: Nice try."
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>The Shanaclan developed a great offense this year. Plus one
>in that category. Gold star.
>
a great offense if you value 'right now' small change upticks over long-term health/success, which is what I've been saying.

  

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122. "Yes, your predictions about RG3's career are well noted."
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And so far, wrong.

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123. "I made no prediction other than to say he was being done a disservice"
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and unfortunately for Skins fans, I feel more right about that every minute.

  

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101. "im curious as to why you call the zone read a gimmick?"
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117. "because ultimately you need a QB to not depend on his legs"
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and to throw the ball far more than 20 times a game while also giving him the responsibility of having to make more than one read per snap.

You can do the zone-read/pistol/spread/give-it-a-name thing in doses, this dude acted like that was all Bob could do & didn't even try to open him up to other more fundamental concepts of the pro-level passing game.

  

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126. "fair enough. i still am convinced it can work in the NFL"
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but like you said as a compliment to the passing game

too many advantages not to focus on the air

  

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140. "damn...you regurgitate talking points like skip bayless on fox news...."
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eating baby food

how many Redskins games did u actually watch this year?

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142. "easy to stay saying the same thing while they stay doing the same thing"
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I'd guestimate off-top I watched 8 full Skins games this season: Saints opener, both Eagle games, both Giant games, both Cowboy games, this playoff game.

Saw large chunks of Baltimore, Pittsburgh & ATL games as well.

  

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147. "well maybe try drinking less and paying more attention when games are on"
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then u won't look so stupid regurgutating the same BS everyone else is bc theyre still furious they dont have Bob (and in ur case, the basic madness & frustration that defines & will always define the Philly sports fan)

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155. "dawg, I been saying this shit since day one, the monkeys on the radio/TV"
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are only just catching on & beginning to babble on about it since Baltimore or so.

But me I actually know what it's like to have a promising young QB, especially one with mobility.

Both those things are probably new terrain for Skin Fans but for me I've been there, done that at least a couple times already.

I simply pointed out how/why y'all were fucking it up down there & nothing that's transpired since has changed that thinking one iota, in fact its only strengthened my conviction on the issue.

  

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157. "yet you questioned why Shanny was dumb enuf to draft a 2nd QB"
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at least try to reconcile ur various elementary thought processes fam

look, i get that RG's injured knee makes you feel happy & vindicated

but as pitiful as that is, it's gonna be short lived dude

he'll be back to flushing Fecal matter in no time, enjoy the wait

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161. "yes, I did, because I didn't know at the draft he planned on treating"
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his three-first-round-picks-franchise QB's frame as wood-chipper fodder over the course of his rookie season.

You 'won' that one, dude, congrats on scoooping Cuzzo.

  

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166. "too bad the facts dont actually support this serious exaggeration "
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>his three-first-round-picks-franchise QB's frame as
>wood-chipper fodder over the course of his rookie season.

thought u watched the games? if anything throughout the season Shanny clearly dialed back the riskiness of the playcalling

i imagine tho, that if Griff came out of the seagull game for cousins & we still lost, yall would still be dogging Shanny for making the wrong decision, not trusting his QB,bei g a racist who prefers the white cousins & doesnt believe Robert has the mental toughness blah blah blah

fact is, you fuckers are feeling validated & vindicated BECAUSE OF AN INJURY

pitiful

>You 'won' that one, dude, congrats on scoooping Cuzzo.
>

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168. "sure they do, you just invested & taking a blind-eye to them"
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And I get that, you're a fan.

It will take longer for it to seep thru especially in the face of you actually having a taste of what it feels like to be relevant for the first time in a couple decades.

It might have seemed like everything was perfect up until last Sunday to you.

>>his three-first-round-picks-franchise QB's frame as
>>wood-chipper fodder over the course of his rookie season.
>
>thought u watched the games? if anything throughout the
>season Shanny clearly dialed back the riskiness of the
>playcalling
>
dialed back the 'risk' of having him make lots of throws & reads (things a young QB should actually be ramping up with) and instead increasing things like his rushes (which shouldn't be something you actually gameplan with).

I'd rather risk INT's over injuries when I'm supposed cultivating the signal-caller of my future.

But that's just me, someone that's seen this movie before.

>i imagine tho, that if Griff came out of the seagull game for
>cousins & we still lost, yall would still be dogging Shanny
>for making the wrong decision, not trusting his QB,bei g a
>racist who prefers the white cousins & doesnt believe Robert
>has the mental toughness blah blah blah
>
>fact is, you fuckers are feeling validated & vindicated
>BECAUSE OF AN INJURY
>
actually, I was saying this long before he got injured for the first, second, third or fourth & final time of the season.

So don't get mad at me.

I been consistent in pointing out my complaint & tried to tell y'all but nobody wanted to hear it.

Getting cysed off QBR for a guy throwing 18 times a game & pretending they don't see the downside to making this kid run for his life while not granting him the freedom to fail even a little when it comes to actually passing.

Shanny should have treated this kid like he did other QB's he's groomed in the past.

He didn't.

For Why?

  

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172. "um, you are aware Griff ran LESS as the season went on, right?"
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173. "of course he did (once he got hurt in Baltimore) thats not the point tho"
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174. "it was happening BEFORE the Bmore game"
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and DESIGNED runs were markedly less after the bye


i mean it's almost like Shanny is a professional football coach who knows how to manage a QB's season but ur just a guy on a message board making guesses and shots in the dark to affirm your preconceived notions

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175. "uh-huh, guess the fact that he was running all over in that game"
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and in the Eagle game a few weeks prior, while still only throwing the ball twenty times a game & well....you know what, nevermind.

  

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180. "Griff's designed running plays went down after the 1st philly game"
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not the Ravens game

when Garcon came back the passing game got better, he ran less & AlMo kept the chains moving

not sure which games you were watching

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185. "Shanny put the short-term over the long-term with this kid all season"
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bottom line.

Since I've been pointing that out from the opener, I have no problem saying the same thing when the whole shit blows up in the last game.

Maybe he (and of course Bob himself) will run an offense more fit for a quarterback when he gets back from his rehab.

  

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190. ""you play to win the game""
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i mean are you suggesting they puposefully shouldnt utilize their biggest weapon bc of FEAR? players play & coaches coach man

all im pointing out is the Shannys DID dial back the "dangerous" playcalling as the season progressed...also, please note they have no physical control of Griff once he's on the field lol

i mean, did u see how Griff reacted to being scratched from the Browns game? he tried to be cool about it but he was clearly upset

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82. "Shanny thinks the ACL tear happened the play before the bad snap..."
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the Bruce Irvin sack...

  

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83. "Shanny thinks a lot of hilarious shit."
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Like that the field was in ok condition

^ ^ actual fact ^ ^

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92. "You expect him to defend the field though..."
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94. "Naw there was no defending that, it was an abysmal field to play on"
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Straight up and down.

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98. "Lying about it achieves nothing."
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The whole world can see how shitty it is.

In two seasons it has now claimed the knees of two of the best players in the league.

It's simply a good example of his hubris and inability to admit any flaw. Even something like field condition, which has nothing to do with him at all.

Yet he can't even concede that point.

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95. "remember when he thought McNabb could be redeemed? lolololo"
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100. "Remember when he thought 1-legged Bob"
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was a better chance to hold a lead in a playoff game than Kirk Cousins?

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144. "so shanny should've demanded the game postponed?"
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throw his boss under the bus?

what do u want exactly?

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194. "Post 98. Lying about it achieves nothing."
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It just shows his hubris and inability to admit mistakes

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87. "According to Schefter...."
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the LCL was torn and the patella graft that was used to repair the ACL in 2009 was completely torn. We can make of that what we will. Mike and Mike had a doctor on who said it is a myth that players come back better from this and seeing as how Rob's is a revision surgery, to say that he will be back the better or even the same is a stretch. He said at best...8-10 months.

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89. "I don't even fux with NFL and I was cussing at the TV this weekend"
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dude is a 10 year player, not a 1st year wild card game player.

simply stunning the ineptitude of some of these GOB white dudes trying to run the world. (but even more stunning how easily we placidly eat the bullshit they serve us...)

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96. "Shanahans are a smart bunch!"
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Hahahahaha

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102. "GILBERT.ARENAS.REHAB.PROGRAM/HOLD.GRIFF.BACK."
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just wanted to remind all DC folk of a recent horrible player mismanagement issue. everybody was psyced that Gil was going so hard to get back- 'saw Gil riding a bike today', 'saw Gil running with a parachute today', 'saw Gil at Barry Farms ballin'. Gil violated his regimen and was never the same player again.

HOLD.GRIFF.BACK.

yeah, we saw what AD did this year, but Minnesota held him back in the offseason, held him back in training camp, held him back in the preseason, and this ninja is bleepin' bionic. he was READY and they STILL held him back.

HOLD.GRIFF.BACK.

yeah, he might be able to recover quickly- but the quick timetable will only have him ready to START working in what, July? August? No minicamps, no OTAs, just getting back to straight line running come training camp?

HOLD.GRIFF.BACK.

you KNOW he's gonna try to come back early. we know the staff seems to have a hard time holding him back. fook the beginning of next season, fook the circumstances under which the injury occurred- NOW is the time to demonstrate that you have this guy's best interests at the forefront.

HOLD.GRIFF.BACK.

Gatorade is plotting on the recovery training commercial. Subway is gonna make a balsamic ligament repair sauce. Adidas is trying to schedule a spring shoot right now. Griff is going to try to oblige everybody, on some young dumb hero isht. Shanahan, you really on that Li'l Red-Faced General isht? you got Cousins, you got a system- get ready to start a season with the army you have...

HOLD.GRIFF.BACK.


i'm not talking about 'miss the entire 2013 season' hold back, but I don't want to see this dude playing in the preseason. really don't want to see him before week 5. even if he's 'ready'. why? because he's missing a lot of work... he could use the extra month of WORK that he'll miss doing REHAB.

it's not an unreasonable position to take- HOLD.GRIFF.BACK.

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103. "He tore his knee in 2009 and didn't rush back."
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In fact he used rehab as a chance to increase arm strength and become a better deep ball passer.

While I think Shanahan is a stubborn ass who would keep an ineffective player in a playoff game, it's possible he's smart enough not to rush Bob back.

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109. "hope so- name dropped AD at presser though..."
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no need for that, all signals from the GM/Coach should be about protecting dude until THE TEAM deems his recovery and preparation for the season is up to THE TEAM's satisfaction.

we can guarantee that Griff is gonna be 'ready to return' early, nevermind the reps he's gonna miss... Shanahan shouldn't put too much stock into that- this is about ignoring the noise when a) Griff misses training camp; b) Griff misses the preseason; c) Cousins loses the first 2 games of the season.

Ignore the noise when the 'save our season RGIII' chants begin. Ignore the noise when the 'you should be fired for letting him injure himself' talk starts up if Cousins doesn't look sharp.

>In fact he used rehab as a chance to increase arm strength
>and become a better deep ball passer.
>
>While I think Shanahan is a stubborn ass who would keep an
>ineffective player in a playoff game, it's possible he's smart
>enough not to rush Bob back.

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112. "This is on Bob, though. He's going to push himself"
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118. "in other words- it's not on Bob. "
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>
>I bet money that he's going to need someone
>to hold him back during his training
>


this is exactly what i'm talking about- Gil was a hero when he was busting protocol to get back to the Wiz, then he was an idiot for ignoring doc advice, then he left town blaming the team for not holding him back.

-MN didn't do that with AD, who was begging to practice in JUNE.

save these dudes from themselves, Griff has already blown his cred as a judge of how good he feels post-injury...

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113. "yep. i say just wash 2013 and bring him back 2014"
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maybe cousins balls out and yall can flip him, but there is no way i'd let RG3 on the field before the 2014 season. too valuable, too much invested.

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124. "nah, that's too far- only if he has complications..."
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with a normal recovery he should be able to play next year. when the team and doctors feel he's healed and strengthened his injuries, he should go through a 'personal pre-season', then full practice, then play.

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104. "it's gonna be sad to watch him limp through all those subway commercials"
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105. "Thomas Davis tore his ACL 3 times"
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Talk about will power and courage to return. He is eaily my pick for comeback player of the year but I know it will go to Manning or Peterson. Hope RGIII able to return.

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120. "who?"
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nah I'm kidding, good for him.

  

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128. "Bummer"
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130. "I don't care how young he is... two ACL tears ain't good."
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he won't be the same threat.

It's not to say that he won't perform well, but his style of play will need to change one way or another, which will minimize the threat he once presented.

Otherwise, his career will be very short.

If he would have been taken out from the Ravens game onward, he would have better chance to be the same RGIII again, but by aggravating like that with continuous play... nah.. no bueno.

Whether because of pain or just being a smarter player, he'll have to cut that stuff out going forward.

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131. "Pictures of the death shack"
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Shit is pretty much what you would expect

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132. "If thats a toilet behind the curtain that room is actually pretty useful"
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133. "I think it's a slop sink, which is useful to throw brushes & rollers in"
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after they paint the dirt.

  

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182. "wiff"
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135. "looking like the room where they put horses down"
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137. "It's so weird. It's literally made out of plywood."
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Dude makes $10M's a year and he still has shacks and dirt fields.

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138. "Barnbaro at FedExField n/m"
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139. "im amazed at how many ppl were apparently on the sidelines Sunday"
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including nearly everyone in this post

its truly amazing, surprised they didnt show yall on TV

edit: the ST comment is also a bit much man

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145. "the repressed glee so many of yall are expressing in ur commentary..."
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is disgusting

you dont care about RG or his career

all u care about is bein able to say "told you so" & laugh at the Skins

but Robert WILL be back

and you will ALL be VERY MAD


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146. "it's not pacquiao getting knocked out repressed glee level by any"
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stretch bro

  

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148. "boxing analogies are lost on me homie"
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150. "point is there's no reason to nail yourself to the cross"
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I don't think anybody is really happy RG3 is out

Nor do most doubt his recovery and subsequent positive affect on the Skins in the future

  

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152. "ive never seen an injury greeted w/ so many jokes & "told you so's""
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so youll forgive my assumption that the folks that have been mad as fuck all season long that WE have Griff being all cheeky & snide says something about their character & intent

or maybe us Americans really are ALL a bunch of soulless argue for nothing assholes

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151. "RE: the repressed glee so many of yall are expressing in ur commentary....."
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>is disgusting
>
>you dont care about RG or his career
>
>all u care about is bein able to say "told you so" & laugh at
>the Skins
>
>but Robert WILL be back
>
>and you will ALL be VERY MAD
>
>
>AGAIN


Take a chill pill, homie...

Most folks are going after Shanny for making a dumb ass move...

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153. "i can read between the lines..."
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it's enough prominent miserable ass philly fans in here to make my point

fact is, ppl generally dislike the Washington Redskins

those folks, regardless of who they "blame", are mostly feeling vindicated &, dare i say, happy that the season ended like this for *US*

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154. "Dude, your fuck ass org doesn't care about RG or his career"
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that's what's disgusting. We've been back and forth over the last year and it's apparent that you guys NEVER fucking care about this kid as a person, or even as player, it was to sell tickets, to have someone to claim as the savior, not to win Super Bowls.


They knew they weren't going to make a deep run this year, so there was no reason to have him doing designed runs on one leg. Why ante up all those picks just to have your golden goose risk his shit on that shit mound that you call a field?

That's what happens when an owner demands to trade up for a player that the HC had to be sold on and didn't want in the first place.

Griffin is an angel from the football heavens of above and your racist ass team has already done their best in ONE FUCKING YEAR to make sure that he'll be nothing more than a myth of what COULD have been.

Clearly, I hope he does come back and be better than ever. But before that will happen, there has to be major changes for your team, starting at the name, then on the field. I hope he bounces and becomes a Saint the first chance he has to.

  

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156. "more regurgitated crap w/ no evidence"
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still furious as fuck

still drawing all kinds of conclusions w/ no evidence but ur furious anger that u will never see a talent of this magnitude don orange & brown

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158. "Shanahan said it himself that Snyder had to sell him on Griff"
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>still furious as fuck
>

I'm more mad that your callous as team saw fit to do their best at making sure this could would not be safe

>still drawing all kinds of conclusions w/ no evidence but ur
>furious anger that u will never see a talent of this magnitude
>don orange & brown


Yeah, says you. Teddy Bridgewater already has the arm talent of a RG3 or Luck. And if we don't get him then I can always just watch Jim Brown highlights, sucka.

  

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163. "so you & others assume that the Skins purposefully pissed away..."
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the greatest talent we've had since fucking sammy baugh, a guy we traded the farm for & who has been embraced by our entire fan base as our long term savior?

not an accident

not a mistake

not a mscommunication or a biproduct of ignorance on the coach's part

but we callously & purposefully ruined his career because....why again?

so cleveland couldn't do it?


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167. "No. I know they're a bunch a greedy fuck who don't care about"
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this kid. They knew they had to worst field in the L when they traded up for him, so why didn't they change it before they knew he would be running around that bitch? You know the Seahawks have filed a complain about that field right? You know that the mayor wants to change that outdated ass name right? Like I said, lots of shit is gonna change before Griffin is even able to come back to that team.

>the greatest talent we've had since fucking sammy baugh, a
>guy we traded the farm for & who has been embraced by our
>entire fan base as our long term savior?
>
>not an accident
>
>not a mistake
>
>not a mscommunication or a biproduct of ignorance on the
>coach's part
>
>but we callously & purposefully ruined his career
>because....why again?
>
>so cleveland couldn't do it?
>
>
>lmao w/ ur mad ass
>
>

You care about Griffin as a person, as do most Deadskins fan, that don't mean that the F.O. saw him as more than a money grab. Mistake my ass, when the team doctor says that he wasn't clear to go back in a game that they sent him , then it's more than a fuckin mistake.

  

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169. "theyre greedy, so they flush their cash cow for short term playoff succe..."
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that makes zero sense, of any type whatsoever


>
>this kid. They knew they had to worst field in the L when they
>traded up for him, so why didn't they change it before they
>knew he would be running around that bitch?

why are you asking me this instead of the professionals Dan Snyder pays to maintain the field?

are you suggesting that the Redskins made the investment in Griff and then puposefully decided to ignore the field because they wanted him to get injured because....why? its all so confusing, any possible motive is really escaping me

>You know the
>Seahawks have filed a complain about that field right?

yes

>You
>know that the mayor wants to change that outdated ass name
>right?

yes, i support a name change but am loyal to my team regardless

i made a whole post about it, look it up

Like I said, lots of shit is gonna change before
>Griffin is even able to come back to that team.
>
>>the greatest talent we've had since fucking sammy baugh, a
>>guy we traded the farm for & who has been embraced by our
>>entire fan base as our long term savior?
>>
>>not an accident
>>
>>not a mistake
>>
>>not a mscommunication or a biproduct of ignorance on the
>>coach's part
>>
>>but we callously & purposefully ruined his career
>>because....why again?
>>
>>so cleveland couldn't do it?
>>
>>
>>lmao w/ ur mad ass
>>
>>
>
>You care about Griffin as a person, as do most Deadskins fan,
>that don't mean that the F.O. saw him as more than a money
>grab.

so the geniuses at Redskins Park decided the quick cash grab was dependent upon getting him injured?

because somehow they're dumb enough to value short term gain that cant even reasonably be argued to be more than otherwise at the cost of this man (not "kid") bringing them tons of profit over a decade and a half?

huh?

Mistake my ass, when the team doctor says that he wasn't
>clear to go back in a game that they sent him , then it's more
>than a fuckin mistake.

care to point me in the direction of proof that this statement even approaches the truth?

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159. "to be honest"
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I think it sucks ass that Bobby Digital went out like this in his rookie season, for a number of reasons, most of them expressed here

but most of all, being part of the machine that ensured the Giants were "ELI"-minated from playoff contention. so for that alone, RGIII deserves praise

but if you see me celebrating, it's on those who thought possibly coming to Cleveland would destroy him. well... NOPE.

  

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165. "well the assumption that this *only* happened bc he's a Skin is asinine"
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& shows an anti-skins agenda (not you specifically)

this couldve happened to a player like this on any team, im sick of the entire organization being blamed every goddamn time

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176. "and now you understand why I was mad in that *other* post"
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>this couldve happened to a player like this on any team, im
>sick of the entire organization being blamed every goddamn
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183. "I think most coaches commit this fuckup honestly."
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But it's so convenient to pile on the Redskins so that's what the narrative has been. In truth, I think over 2/3s of the coaches in the NFL would've done the same thing.

  

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160. "I am absolutely not worried. At all."
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https://twitter.com/chuck4prez

  

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164. "im not concerned right now either"
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realistic

but i know he'll be back & can do big things

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170. "Who did AP's knee? Bob need to holla at him"
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171. "Dr. James Andrews, of course, same guy who does all of em"
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including Bob's.

  

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178. "Just wiki'd this guy. Didn't realize he was the GOAT sports Doctor nm."
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179. "his resume is unreal n/m"
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181. "There is no one like him in sports"
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He's the best in the business by far and away.

Get out the room,
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http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/get-out-the-room/id525657893

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187. "what has me blown about that dude is he doesn't even really specialize"
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he will fix any damn limb, appendage, joint that an athlete has.

  

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192. "Young think about how knowledgable about the human body this "
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Dude is, he knows fucking everything about muscles, joints, and ligaments

I can't imagine what's in his head it has to be staggering what he knows and can fix.

Get out the room,
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http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/get-out-the-room/id525657893

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195. "He needs a CSI: Pro Athlete Ligaments show."
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It would be dramatic as shit.

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205. "damn, honestly fam?"
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and I'm really not clowning. You aint know about this dude? I swear, I dunno how he has time to do all the shit he does. Mufucka basically rebuilt Chris Carpenter's torso, lol.

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198. "lol"
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199. "=\"
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200. "It's worse than they thought."
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/12/griffins-knee-creates-more-concern-than-advertised/

This really sucks.

  

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201. "Crazy. Hope they start listening to Doctors."
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Sucks this happened to a 22 year old.

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202. "Masturbatory garbage. "
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Yes, when you suffer knee ligaments the long term health of your knee is limited.

Also, the sun rises in the east.

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204. "^"
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https://twitter.com/chuck4prez

  

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206. "nah, it's bad. his knee will be full-on arthritic by 27"
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oh well

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207. "Cool prediction."
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Would be better if you had any kind of medical evidence or definitive proof to back it up.

You don't.

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219. "you right. i don't. my bad. "
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210. "right. cartilage damage is nothing."
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211. "The article was garbage. "
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It is not "worse than feared".

The long term deterioration of the knee is part and parcel of this injury.

This article and presumably the person who posted it are trying to act like this is breaking news.

It's not.

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213. "one anonymous source"
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with roundabout speculation. not even stated explicitly.

the article is garbage. nothing new.

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203. "counterpoint:"
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/robert-griffin-iii-knee-injury-dont-panic-the-good-qbs-always-come-back/2013/01/11/93f470d2-5c30-11e2-9fa9-5fbdc9530eb9_story.html

think about it...name ONE QB of Griff's level in history that was one & done

the best a friend of mine could come up w/ was Steve McNair & i dunno about that at all

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214. "wait, what? I don't get the McNair thing at all. McNair played awhile."
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but if you wanna take a look at quality fairly recent QB's who were derailed early by knee injuries Culpepper would certainly qualify.

Carson was never really the same after his knee got crunched on the second play of the game in Pittsburgh during the playoffs, tho he did have a shoulder issue later too.

Donovan never made another Pro-Bowl outside of being an alternate-to-the-alternate in '08 after blowing out his knee in '06.

Bottom line, it's a shame but it's not a good sign.

Particularly when you've already done it before in college.

  

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215. "Wrong."
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Bottom line: it sucks, but there's no evidence he's unlikely to come back and be effective for years to come.

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216. "lol @ 'wrong' then not disputing a single thing I actually said."
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>Bottom line: it sucks, but there's no evidence he's unlikely
>to come back and be effective for years to come.
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217. "You make a great point but I don't think McNabb or Culpepper"
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had the level of accuracy that RG3 does. Not sure if that will be the ultimate deciding factor here, because there are a lot of other things that they may have done better than RG3, but at least it's something to make myself feel a little better.

  

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218. "RGIII does look accurate thus far but he also isn't asked to pass"
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nearly as much as McNabb had to right away in a west-coast-pass-heavy-system with garbage wideouts and Darnell Autry at RB.

When the read responsibility & attempts go up, usually the percentage of completions will go down at least initially before it becomes second-nature.

Those are just examples of dudes affected by knee trauma recently at the position though, obviously every individual & situation is different.

  

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220. "again, anyone that actually watched us knows that's bullshit."
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but ok.

Dude made reads as well as any QB you might consider "elite"...I don't care how complex one might think our system is or isn't, a 20:5 TD to INT ratio is nothing but evidence that this is a guy who knows what throws to make.

  

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221. "I watched half your games & saw every snap of McNabb's 00 season"
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McNabb attempted nearly 200 more throws in his first full year starting & his offensive cast was worse than Bob's.

Luck threw about 250 more times.

Seems pretty fair to say knowing that, while comparing the offenses each were running that those two had a bit more on their plate in terms of the passing game & one of the byproducts of that will likely be more INT's & a lower completion percentage.

That's not a knock at RGIII to point that obvious difference out.

I'd vote him Rookie Of The Year this season, however I'd much rather have Luck going forward (even ignoring this latest injury).

  

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