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"Countdown to CFB signing day...."
Fri Jan-04-13 03:19 PM by guru0509

  

          

The Under Armour Game is today

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8718149/2013-armour-game-rosters

& the Army game is tomorrow.

http://www.usarmyallamericanbowl.com/player-roster

How's your class doing? Any sleepers? Any defections? Coaching change fuck your shit up completely?

TALK ABOUT IT (if you want something swiped from scout, rivals or espn insider, post the link + I'll do my best to oblige)






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Rob Foster picking Bama was a kick in the balls
Jan 04th 2013
1
How does Texas A&M have 35 recruits in this year's class? lol
Jan 09th 2013
2
just trying to fit in with their new roommates
Jan 09th 2013
3
get another agenda
Jan 09th 2013
5
      15.5.6.1 Bowl Subdivision Football. [FBS]
Jan 09th 2013
6
           glad you looked up the rule. now you see how dumb it was when
Jan 09th 2013
7
                3 of those were over, 1 was under
Jan 09th 2013
9
                     Houston Nutt's classes at Ole Miss were the worst I think
Jan 09th 2013
10
                     oh Nutt was the fucking worst
Jan 09th 2013
16
                     lol. you can't be serious. are you a GT alum?
Jan 09th 2013
13
                          lol avoidance...a classic freudian technique
Jan 09th 2013
17
because i'm sure they've worked the numbers
Jan 09th 2013
4
So who's gonna get this Ryan Potter kid?
Jan 09th 2013
8
Today is UCLA and Nebraska for the #1 RB in the state of CA
Jan 09th 2013
11
His recruitment feels Marlon Lucky-esque
Jan 09th 2013
12
      well UCLA has been winning the battles with regularity
Jan 09th 2013
14
           Y'all got him
Jan 09th 2013
18
Fantastic
Jan 09th 2013
15
Oregon recruiting is hilarious
Jan 09th 2013
19
Rivals and scout are jokes
Jan 09th 2013
21
      lol please
Jan 09th 2013
23
      I think ESPN's are the worst and most off-base
Jan 09th 2013
24
           I've heard the same thing as well regarding ESPN rankings
Jan 10th 2013
25
                ESPN is the best if you root for an SEC team
Jan 11th 2013
35
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jan 11th 2013
36
                plus I would appreciate it if they didn't have rankings
Jan 12th 2013
47
I still wonder why they told Brandon Vendenburg no
Jan 09th 2013
20
I guess the answer is no
Jan 12th 2013
48
Carl Lawson and Montravius Adams visiting Clemson this weekend
Jan 09th 2013
22
Mike Mitchell...BUCKEYE
Jan 10th 2013
26
Too-Early Top 25 recruiting update
Jan 10th 2013
27
Brian Kelly flirts with NFL, loses star LB recruit to the Gators
Jan 11th 2013
28
RE: Brian Kelly flirts with NFL, loses star LB recruit to the Gators
Jan 11th 2013
29
Right and wrong...
Jan 11th 2013
30
      you are taking that a little personally
Jan 11th 2013
37
           "hanging around the football program"
Jan 11th 2013
41
                you and greg doyle can blow me
Jan 11th 2013
45
umm, had nothing to do with Kelly interviewing
Jan 11th 2013
43
      IDK, I gave him the benefit of the doubt on that one....
Jan 11th 2013
44
Butch Jones is doing a heck of a job
Jan 11th 2013
31
Wait & See...
Jan 11th 2013
32
      To even have their attention like this is huge
Jan 11th 2013
33
           Tennessee is loaded in 2014 (in relative terms)
Jan 11th 2013
39
meanwhile...Tommy Tuberville is still a cunt
Jan 11th 2013
34
jesus what an asshole
Jan 11th 2013
38
It's almost like he doesn't even want to be there and left just to leave
Jan 11th 2013
40
      how is it smart to burn bridges with high school coaches...
Jan 11th 2013
42
           Yea even if he is planning on going far away it's not a good move
Jan 11th 2013
46
Lane being Lane
Jan 14th 2013
49
No idea why they didn't mention us in that article ;)
Jan 14th 2013
50
shit, these coaches have to let their kids know
Jan 14th 2013
51
Duck Commits, Recruits React
Jan 16th 2013
52
dontre wilson and the robinson twins set to visit OSU
Jan 17th 2013
53
As long as we keep Gary Campbell, we'll keep Wilson. And one of the twi...
Jan 17th 2013
54
      i dont see the twins as all that realistic
Jan 17th 2013
55
4 Star safety Tyler Foreman to UCLA
Jan 20th 2013
56
Ole Miss has to be cheating.
Jan 21st 2013
57
i concur
Jan 21st 2013
58
lol... http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBz9YUPCIAA2hXd.jpg
Jan 29th 2013
119
if you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin
Feb 06th 2013
188
Dorian Johnson upgraded to 5 stars by Rivals, Pitt's first since 2008
Jan 21st 2013
59
I really thought Foster would stay at home...
Jan 21st 2013
60
      Yea that was a HUGE letdown for us
Jan 21st 2013
61
Nashville RB Cornelius Elder down to Ohio St. & UCLA
Jan 21st 2013
62
The kid is an ILL point guard, too.
Jan 21st 2013
63
Ben Howland could use him too...lol.
Jan 22nd 2013
66
elder doesn't have a commitable offer from OSU
Jan 21st 2013
64
got 4 of my guys I can speak on with some probability....
Jan 22nd 2013
65
still haven't heard anything about Bierria... you sticking to your guns ...
Jan 22nd 2013
67
      I just left the Ducks LB coach....
Jan 22nd 2013
68
           hmmm... thanks
Jan 22nd 2013
69
           sounds like we agreed to part ways
Jan 29th 2013
117
                well...he actually to a trip on 1/29 to Eugene....
Feb 04th 2013
131
                     It sounded on my end like that visit had been cancelled
Feb 04th 2013
132
                     just found out it's down to UW....Oregon State....with San Diego St.
Feb 04th 2013
136
                     do you have talks with your kids bout how to act on these trips?
Feb 04th 2013
133
                          not really.... haven't had to. Pretty much all of the kids we've had
Feb 04th 2013
137
More USC hits
Jan 22nd 2013
70
those investigators are moving north
Jan 22nd 2013
73
      moving? they've investigated. that's over.
Jan 22nd 2013
74
           Chip Kelly moved East
Jan 22nd 2013
75
recruiting violation?
Jan 22nd 2013
71
LOL absolutely
Jan 22nd 2013
72
5 star CB Jalen Ramsey de-coms from USC...
Jan 23rd 2013
76
Damn, these kids are spooked as hell
Jan 23rd 2013
77
      Clancy Pendergast, Tedford's last DC
Jan 23rd 2013
79
Mona Lisa in the hall three safes in the wall
Jan 23rd 2013
78
RE: Countdown to CFB signing day....
Jan 23rd 2013
80
Vanderdoes could easily end up in Westwood
Jan 23rd 2013
81
ESPN Class Rankings
Jan 23rd 2013
82
4 star S Tahaan Goodman to UCLA
Jan 23rd 2013
83
Priest Willis too I think
Jan 24th 2013
84
an interesting recruiting story....
Jan 24th 2013
85
5 Things You Should Know About Recruiting (swipe)
Jan 24th 2013
86
Derrick Green, the #1 RB in the nation
Jan 26th 2013
87
Brady Hoke cries when top RB picked Michigan (swipe)
Jan 27th 2013
88
      Lol
Jan 27th 2013
89
      props for keeping it emo...good stuff
Jan 27th 2013
90
      of course
Jan 28th 2013
116
           he wasn't?
Feb 04th 2013
134
      who is this sam webb buffoon? LMAO
Jan 29th 2013
118
Bo Pelini not good at taking no for an answer
Jan 27th 2013
91
this is a horseshit article
Jan 27th 2013
92
      told you nobody likes that asshole n/m
Jan 27th 2013
94
      told you you don't have a clue on what you are talking about
Jan 27th 2013
96
           i honestly dont talk much about the programs i root for
Jan 27th 2013
97
      i dont get it...are we supposed to feel bad for nebraska?
Jan 27th 2013
99
           3rd party sources and it reads like a Pelini anger pile-on
Jan 27th 2013
101
                man i never knew of this 'pelini is an asshole' conspiracy
Jan 27th 2013
103
Maybe Firebrand was right
Jan 27th 2013
93
lol. Braska done the same as Kentucky in football lately, namely nothing
Jan 27th 2013
95
      winning 9+ games a year, 5 years running isn't bad
Jan 27th 2013
98
           word?!
Jan 27th 2013
100
                I edited and changed it
Jan 27th 2013
102
                     ha
Jan 27th 2013
104
                          you have been equally grandstanding and condescending about Bo
Jan 27th 2013
105
                               pun intended?
Feb 05th 2013
145
                                    http://gifs.gifbin.com/g64795857g6.gif
Feb 05th 2013
148
Tyler Boyd is about to de-commit from Pitt for WVU I can feel it
Jan 27th 2013
106
Word is he might get down to Knoxville this weekend
Jan 28th 2013
107
Pitt's recent history leave me no doubt he is not coming here anymore
Jan 28th 2013
108
      I know the feeling
Jan 28th 2013
109
           Vonn Bell will be one to watch, down to Alabama, the Vols and us
Jan 28th 2013
110
                I'm sure we'll finish second with him just like everyone else
Jan 28th 2013
112
                Per Rivals Bama guy...
Jan 28th 2013
113
                     I'd bet money he's going to Bama
Jan 28th 2013
114
                     OSU seems squarely in the mix here
Jan 30th 2013
127
NOOOO
Feb 06th 2013
186
Top out-of-state recruiting teams Ranking the 10 CFB schools with best o...
Jan 28th 2013
111
UCLA shows Asiantii Woulard the town (swipe)
Jan 28th 2013
115
Clemson backs out of Woulard recruiting.......
Jan 30th 2013
126
i knew that south fla commit wouldnt hold up he is gonna be westwood
Feb 06th 2013
175
no.3 rated MLB Isaac Savaiinaea .... word is it's UCLA...
Jan 29th 2013
120
Helfrich is way more aggressive than Chip
Jan 30th 2013
121
I really wish Johnny Ragin committed to Louisiana Lafayette
Jan 30th 2013
122
I'm a big fan of Cameron Hunt...after watching him up close
Jan 30th 2013
123
LB/S Kieshawn Bierria visiting Washington this weekend...
Jan 30th 2013
124
word on the street for Eddie Vanderdoes........it's UCLA...
Jan 30th 2013
125
Marquez North to Vols. WOW. Really didn't expect that.
Jan 31st 2013
128
based on what?
Feb 04th 2013
135
Wide Receiver U...forever
Feb 04th 2013
138
Two days left..
Feb 04th 2013
129
I'm pretty sure he's yours
Feb 04th 2013
130
Dontre Wilson flips to OSU
Feb 04th 2013
139
HUGE get for the Buckeyes. Youngblood is a player w/ SPEED
Feb 05th 2013
161
Reuben Foster to 'bama.....again......for now
Feb 04th 2013
140
another teenaged mutant at bama...exactly what the world needs
Feb 05th 2013
143
      Yeah, dude's soph highlights are the most impressive I've seen from a
Feb 05th 2013
144
down to the wire...espn predicting for UCLA
Feb 05th 2013
141
Yo! Vanderdoes! That's the prize catch. Hope we can poach him.
Feb 05th 2013
142
i laughed at Position: QB/DT ...
Feb 05th 2013
147
PRAISE BE TO THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(Alex Collins ...
Feb 05th 2013
146
Oregon pre-signing day
Feb 05th 2013
149
Losing Hunt hurts but keeping Ragin is nice
Feb 05th 2013
150
So Narbonne High School's signing day ceremony count:
Feb 05th 2013
151
USC is HURRRRTIN
Feb 05th 2013
152
Yeah that class is falling apart fast
Feb 05th 2013
153
and there goes hatcher...
Feb 05th 2013
154
Still in serious danger of losing Falah and Prevot too... wow
Feb 05th 2013
155
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfslY_AvhLw
Feb 05th 2013
156
Rome is burning.....nm
Feb 05th 2013
157
What a fuckup...
Feb 05th 2013
158
id have preferred if SC kept their commits
Feb 05th 2013
159
interesting tweet from Chad Bumphis giving advice to recruits:
Feb 05th 2013
160
probably Hugh Freeze
Feb 05th 2013
162
      He's gotta be cheating. I know for a fact he cheated as a HS coach
Feb 05th 2013
164
           well he did work with Orgeron and he has a Kiffin on staff
Feb 06th 2013
253
Kylie Fitts to UCLA
Feb 05th 2013
163
Still can't believe MICHIGAN got the best player,
Feb 06th 2013
165
its a lot more believable than these dudes heading to ole miss
Feb 06th 2013
166
      Dudes lil bro went to Ole Miss, which lands the #1 guy which lands
Feb 06th 2013
190
           diche didn't pick till this morning
Feb 06th 2013
192
                I ain't know they got EVERYBODY, WTF!
Feb 06th 2013
202
FSU, as usual, racking up on signing day...
Feb 06th 2013
167
James Clark is a Buckeye!
Feb 06th 2013
168
Urban will never land SEC kids....especially kids out of Florida
Feb 06th 2013
170
      keep believing that's what i said
Feb 06th 2013
181
           no, ill crow about landing the #1 class
Feb 06th 2013
183
           OSU is gonna get players, they got Meyer....
Feb 06th 2013
191
           Lol, just stop dude.The search function is a click away.
Feb 06th 2013
193
                where's the quote about gold fronts?
Feb 06th 2013
194
                so you actually are retarded?
Feb 06th 2013
258
                     Still digging huh?
Feb 06th 2013
262
Bruce Feldman reporting Vonn Bell to the Vols
Feb 06th 2013
169
disappointing ending to an otherwise amazing class
Feb 06th 2013
171
Wonder who he got that nugget from
Feb 06th 2013
172
heckuva an assumption but that's par for the course...
Feb 06th 2013
174
      BWHWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHA
Feb 06th 2013
177
           UT boards adding to the hilarity
Feb 06th 2013
259
And he's a buckeye...
Feb 06th 2013
179
Auburn DL gonna be murda.. lol
Feb 06th 2013
173
Vonn Bell...BUCKEYE
Feb 06th 2013
176
COFFEE IS FOR CLOSERS@!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feb 06th 2013
178
BOYD STAYS WITH PITT
Feb 06th 2013
180
yes
Feb 06th 2013
187
Ole miss is doin work
Feb 06th 2013
182
man, Ole Miss is killin shit today... lolololol
Feb 06th 2013
184
desmond talking bout it
Feb 06th 2013
185
      hahaha... boiling hot magma.. I mean it is what it is but cmon.. lol
Feb 06th 2013
231
OSU peeps: got to see Chris Worley's ceremony
Feb 06th 2013
189
Very cool.
Feb 06th 2013
233
Wait so the best player in IL moves to MISSISSIPPI? WTFeezy!
Feb 06th 2013
195
OLE MISS got Tunsil too? OH HELL NAWL!!!! Ole Miss didn't 'cruit
Feb 06th 2013
196
When did QB-PP become a position?
Feb 06th 2013
197
I also saw TE-Y ...no idea.
Feb 06th 2013
198
Spread offenses, man
Feb 06th 2013
200
      ah, makes sense. thanks.
Feb 06th 2013
201
           Does it tho?
Feb 06th 2013
205
Pocket Passer (White) vs Dual Threat (BLACK)
Feb 06th 2013
228
      no comment
Feb 06th 2013
245
LB/S Kieshawn Bierria visiting Washington this weekend...
Feb 06th 2013
199
congrats to you, your staff, and your kids WC
Feb 06th 2013
260
oh yea, snap back hats are ugly.
Feb 06th 2013
203
I have no idea why kids will wear a snap back over a fitted.
Feb 06th 2013
212
      That's what I tell myself when I see dudes wearing their gf's jeans
Feb 06th 2013
215
CFB heads let me holla at you.
Feb 06th 2013
204
Football rankings are not very accurate at all
Feb 06th 2013
207
2007 rankings as a great reference
Feb 06th 2013
210
      UF had a really good year recruiting, wow. Too bad
Feb 06th 2013
229
Plenty of these lower rated guys make it to the NFL
Feb 06th 2013
209
Wow....this shit blows my mind.
Feb 06th 2013
213
basketball players are much more projectable
Feb 06th 2013
211
Cuz even moreso than hoops a kid can look all world...
Feb 06th 2013
214
Yup sums me up too
Feb 06th 2013
216
it's not hard to look at the offer sheets and piggyback off that
Feb 06th 2013
226
ranking high school players is a tricky thing...
Feb 06th 2013
217
look at bama's recruiting rankings over the past 5 years
Feb 06th 2013
221
      Yeah. Gotta look at the big picture.
Feb 06th 2013
223
      It's got to be consistent over 4 or 5 years though
Feb 06th 2013
252
           yes, it needs to occur over a course of a few years
Feb 06th 2013
255
                well defense did Rich Rod in, I think his offense was fine
Feb 07th 2013
271
These faxes cant be real right?
Feb 06th 2013
206
Sure they are...I just faxed 4 letters of intent off to colleges
Feb 06th 2013
218
      very cool.
Feb 06th 2013
219
      couple names for next year....
Feb 06th 2013
220
      dam
Feb 06th 2013
225
muahahaha. DAT. Arik. TORRODNEY.
Feb 06th 2013
208
UCLA got some guy named Asiantii Woulard
Feb 06th 2013
222
he's our next QB once Hundley is gone....
Feb 06th 2013
224
Scout has UCLA at #3 overall...
Feb 06th 2013
227
Or, as he put it 'UCLA University' Yikes.
Feb 06th 2013
234
LOL...that's pretty bad
Feb 06th 2013
236
LOL...well our academic standards finally caught up to rest of the confe...
Feb 06th 2013
238
      true....I was told by their primary recruiter this year
Feb 06th 2013
242
Also got Isaac Saaiinaea, we are gonna run out of vowels
Feb 06th 2013
235
I guess those Tongan and Samoan kids hate the cold
Feb 06th 2013
243
yeah he was committed to south fla he is big, good, asiatic
Feb 06th 2013
247
so nobody talkin about Alex Collins mom disappearing with his LOI?
Feb 06th 2013
230
lol yea that shit is hysterical
Feb 06th 2013
232
would be great if she was related to landon collins' mom
Feb 06th 2013
237
Lol, this dude's face on the Yahoo article about sums it up
Feb 06th 2013
240
sigh
Feb 07th 2013
269
Damon Mitchell switches from GTech to Arky
Feb 06th 2013
239
GT pulled his offer actually
Feb 07th 2013
268
haha vandy war-room reaction to jordan cunningham
Feb 06th 2013
241
shit is great
Feb 06th 2013
246
Cutcliffe doin work for Duke:
Feb 06th 2013
244
I assume the coach we just poached from you
Feb 06th 2013
249
alvin kamara signed with bamma he is about to be a Liberian legend
Feb 06th 2013
248
Over/under on the years before the NCAA sanctions Ole Miss?
Feb 06th 2013
250
RB Ezekiel "EZE" Elliot reaffirms pledge to TOSU over Mizzou
Feb 06th 2013
251
Mizzou is in meltdown mode with their recruiting class
Feb 07th 2013
272
Best recruiting class for us since 2008....
Feb 06th 2013
254
on paper this class is better
Feb 06th 2013
256
      an Oregon offense with a typical OSU defense? Yes please.
Feb 06th 2013
263
fucking hell USC - Fr. TE Junior Pomee facing felony burg charges
Feb 06th 2013
257
lol damn
Feb 07th 2013
266
In defense of Ole Miss...
Feb 06th 2013
261
Honestly, props to Hotty Toddy...
Feb 07th 2013
270
damn, osu stays failing lol
Feb 06th 2013
264
a little off topic....Malcom Jones returning to UCLA as walk on
Feb 06th 2013
265
gotta be a bitter pill to swallow..going from scholly to walk on
Feb 07th 2013
267
PSU back on their angry high horse, want tressel back, B1G is pathetic
Feb 08th 2013
273
People don't want to talk about it, but Urban is right
Feb 09th 2013
274
I don't know what urban said that was so controversial
Feb 09th 2013
275
      what I read people think he is grandstanding and elitist
Feb 09th 2013
276
           people will twist anything to fit their agenda
Feb 10th 2013
278
                some of it is probably BTN inventory
Feb 10th 2013
280
he's just trolling for SB Nation views
Feb 11th 2013
283
2014 Southfield DE Lawrence Marshall ....BUCKEYE
Feb 10th 2013
277
will be interesting to see where drake harris and malik mcdowell land
Feb 10th 2013
279
NOPE! Southfield DE Lawrence Marshall decommits from T$IO, visits Michig...
Feb 14th 2013
285
      Lol, Dantonio using them SEC tactics!
Feb 14th 2013
286
Wow is Leonard Fournette fun to watch
Feb 10th 2013
281
SPEEEEEED....is overrated (c) michigan
Feb 11th 2013
282
ive read that Jones and Darboh are ~4.5 range...seems fast enough
Feb 12th 2013
284
How are your 2014 classes looking as of right now?
Feb 25th 2013
287
aka the Guru and Matt thread
Feb 25th 2013
289
I'm already thinking about spring practices and shit
Feb 25th 2013
293
Michigan adds Top 100ish OG Mason Cole
Feb 25th 2013
294
OT Dontae Levingston....C/O 2011....headed to UCLA
Feb 25th 2013
288
I remember watching his situation closely...
Feb 25th 2013
290
      I was worried for a minute....he's one of my favorite kids
Feb 25th 2013
291
           Yup I was just thinking of the Klemm connection
Feb 25th 2013
292
                who was the freshman defensive lineman we moved to the O-line
Feb 25th 2013
295
                     Kevin Brown?
Feb 25th 2013
297
The renovation of Tennessee football
Feb 25th 2013
296
Great timing with Jay Graham leaving today...
Feb 25th 2013
298
I really think he's going to do well.
Feb 25th 2013
299
UT got a keeper i think. you win at directional Michigan schools...
Feb 26th 2013
300
      and he landed his first big fish in Jalen Hurd....
Mar 16th 2013
301
           This is the best start to a recruiting class in about 10 years
Mar 17th 2013
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Kain Daub signs with FSU c/o 2014 | #1 LB in the country
Apr 06th 2013
303
he didn't sign anything
Apr 06th 2013
304
      lol
Apr 06th 2013
305

Y2Flound
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1. "Rob Foster picking Bama was a kick in the balls"
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All reports were he was going to Pitt even up to that morning he announced. He would have been huge

Boyd signing tomorrow would be huge and help make up for the loss but a WR duo of Foster/Boyd would have been incredible.

Stealing Dorion Johnson from PSU was a big get for us

  

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2. "How does Texas A&M have 35 recruits in this year's class? lol"
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http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=14&yr=2013

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3. "just trying to fit in with their new roommates"
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5. "get another agenda"
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Alabama Crimson Tide: 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2020 Nat’l Champ

  

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6. "15.5.6.1 Bowl Subdivision Football. [FBS]"
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There shall be an annual limit of 25 on the number of initial counters (per Bylaw 15.02.3.1)... at each institution. (Revised: 1/10/91 effective 8/1/92, 12/15/06)

  

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7. "glad you looked up the rule. now you see how dumb it was when"
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Wed Jan-09-13 02:52 PM by yoose2lurk

  

          

you said, "saban has signed 100 players the last 4 classes."

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2105823&mesg_id=2105823&page=#2106438

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9. "3 of those were over, 1 was under"
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its not an average

22 one year does not give the right to sign 28 the next

  

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10. "Houston Nutt's classes at Ole Miss were the worst I think"
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37! one year

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16. "oh Nutt was the fucking worst"
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13. "lol. you can't be serious. are you a GT alum?"
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you're not making your alma mater look good. just stop now.

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17. "lol avoidance...a classic freudian technique"
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4. "because i'm sure they've worked the numbers"
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and after graduation, injuries, early draft entries,
academic casualties and greyshirts, they will be at
85.

why are y'all so obsessed with such a non issue?

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8. "So who's gonna get this Ryan Potter kid?"
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http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2013/1/9/3856048/official-ryan-potter-highlight-mixtape-the-greatest-recruit-film-ever

This might be the best highlight tape I've ever seen. Reggie Bush, Jadaveon Clowney-esque. I hope UCLA gets this kid.

  

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11. "Today is UCLA and Nebraska for the #1 RB in the state of CA"
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Terrell Newby

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12. "His recruitment feels Marlon Lucky-esque"
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I don't follow recruiting as closely as I used to, but I remember Lucky came down to Nebraska and USC I think, and ultimately went to Nebraska (where he was OK). I'm guessing he goes to Nebraska, but we have a desperate need for an RB who can play right away, with Johnathon Franklin leaving and our #2 RB (Thigpen) tearing his ACL against USC.

  

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14. "well UCLA has been winning the battles with regularity"
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Owamagbe Odighizuwa
Marcus Rios
Nate Iese

Scott Quessenberry already this year


we will know at 1:30 PST

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18. "Y'all got him"
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On the positive side for us, this increases our chances for an Angry White Starting Tailback next year, Steven Manfro.

  

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15. "Fantastic"
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19. "Oregon recruiting is hilarious"
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Whatever rivals/scout/247 have to say, it's quite evident this staff doesn't give a shit - and I love it.

that said we've got plenty to be excited about.
Tyner and Wilson? Same class? What? goddamn.

And we want to add late blooming Rennie Childs (TX) to that group. Sounds good to me.

Robinson twins are dope, at least one will contribute early. (We'll have two sets of twins on the team when they arrive - how crazy is that?)

Carrington looked pretty filthy during his semper fi stuff...

Got a JC LB on campus already to help with losing Clay and Alonso right quick, which is important.

We need to fill up our remaining slots. Chasing hard after some OL - significant need there.

  

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21. "Rivals and scout are jokes"
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Espn's rankings are the most accurate for now.

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23. "lol please"
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I'm enjoying your attempt to reinforce the narrative though

  

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24. "I think ESPN's are the worst and most off-base"
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I'd take all three services (Scout, Rivals, 247) over them

to each his own I guess

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25. "I've heard the same thing as well regarding ESPN rankings"
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yoose is the first person I've ever heard to rank ESPN above the other services
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35. "ESPN is the best if you root for an SEC team"
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36. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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47. "plus I would appreciate it if they didn't have rankings"
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and divested themselves from the bowls

I think they have too much influence now

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20. "I still wonder why they told Brandon Vendenburg no"
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with the top two TE's graduating?

hope NU can hold on to Dan Samuelson vs. Michigan

still have an obvious need at DE and DT and likely at OT also

up there with the best in nation at RB and LB

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48. "I guess the answer is no"
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Samuelson flips to Maize and Blue

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22. "Carl Lawson and Montravius Adams visiting Clemson this weekend"
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doubt they even thinking about committing
but for a second tier school...the look is a building block
Tajh coming back is the best recruit we can get
now Deandre need to come back

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26. "Mike Mitchell...BUCKEYE"
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It's always nice to steal the best LB out of Texas...(and the #2 MLB in the country)

and thank you Auburn for firing Gene and steering Trey Johnson to Columbus...




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27. "Too-Early Top 25 recruiting update "
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http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8822705/as-national-signing-day-looms-2013-top-college-football-teams-look-secure-recruiting-classes#ohiostate


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As signing day looms, 2013's top teams secure recruiting classes
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The confetti has barely settled on Alabama's second consecutive BCS National Championship, but for coaching staffs around the country, it's crunch time. Signing day looms, and recruiting coordinators have less than a month to secure their 2013 recruiting classes. Here's a look at how the teams in Mark Schlabach's Way-Too-Early Top 25 are faring on the trail:

1. Alabama Crimson Tide
Who they have: Alabama received good news right before Christmas when ESPN 150 WR Robert Foster chose the Crimson Tide over hometown Pittsburgh. Foster, the nation's No. 2 WR, gives Alabama yet another playmaker and continues to show how well the staff has been able to recruit on a national level. Thirteen states are represented in the Tide's 2013 class. Alabama has a pair of ESPN 150 running backs committed -- Tyren Jones and Altee Tenpenny -- and four-star athlete Derrick Henry, the highest-ranked player in the class, expects to start out in the backfield, as well. The Tide also found their quarterback of the future in Cooper Bateman, ranked the No. 6 pocket passer in the country. On defense, Alabama landed ESPN 150 defensive end Jonathan Allen.
Who they want: There are still a few spots left to fill in Alabama's class, and the biggest target still on the board is five-star offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil. Not only would he fill a need but he's also the best player at his position. Outside of Tunsil, the Tide's main focus is on defense. The coaches are still looking for a versatile defensive lineman and more help in the secondary, specifically at safety. Auburn defensive tackle commitment Dee Liner is at the top of UA's wish list, and Bama is making a strong push to flip him. ESPN 150 safety Vonn Bell could be the solution at defensive back.
Signing day surprise: Alabama will add at least two more ESPN 300 defensive linemen. Liner is the most likely candidate to flip, but keep an eye on Mississippi State commit Chris Jones, who has seen his stock take off in the past month. Henry Poggi, a Michigan commit, and Eddie Vanderdoes are also potential options. -- Greg Ostendorf


2. Oregon Ducks
Who they have: The Ducks are loading their roster with more versatile athletes, including LB commit Danny Mattingly. Oregon's class includes commitments from two ESPN 150 and two other ESPN 300 prospects. Athlete Dontre Wilson, No. 52 in the ESPN 150, and RB Thomas Tyner, No. 90 overall, will give the Ducks an even faster backfield in 2013. Four-star wide receivers Tyree Robinson, No. 274 in the ESPN 300, and Darren Carrington give the Ducks elite playmakers. OT Evan Voeller, No. 181 in the ESPN 300, adds depth up front.
Who they want: The Ducks' biggest needs are at LB and OL. The Ducks are among the top three for OL Thomas Oser. Their remaining targets are ATH Juwaan Williams and LB Peter Kalambayi. OL Cameron Hunt, LB Zach Cunningham, DE Austin Hooper and LB Myles Jack are all expected on campus in the coming weeks.
Signing day surprise: The Ducks will continue their trend of closing strong by flipping at least two players committed to other schools. The most likely candidates are OL Cameron Hunt (Cal), LB Myles Jack (UCLA) and OL Nico Falah (USC). -- Brandon P. Oliver

3. Stanford Cardinal
Who they have: The Cardinal have their quarterback of the future in Ryan Burns and have done very well with two positions that have also excelled for the Cardinal in recent years with tight end commitments Greg Taboada and Eric Cotton Jr. and outside linebacker pledge Peter Kalambayi, who's an ESPN 300 prospect.
Who they want: Stanford is in the mix for another California offensive lineman in Thomas Oser and could find room for yet another tight end, in Texas decommitment Durham Smythe. Speedster Devon Allen is also high on the wish list for the Cardinal.
Signing day surprise: The 2013 class won't measure up to 2012's haul. On the heels of a tough Fiesta Bowl loss last season, the Cardinal put together one of the top recruiting classes in the country, thanks in large part to what might have been the nation's best class of offensive linemen. This season, even after a Rose Bowl victory, there isn't the same buzz among high-profile recruits. And even though the Cardinal will sign a very good class of players who fit the Stanford system and mentality, it won't have the same national cachet that last year's did. -- Erik McKinney

4. Ohio State Buckeyes
Who they have: The recruiting class of 2013 starts strong in the secondary with three of the nation's best in Eli Apple (formerly Woodard), Cam Burrows and Gareon Conley -- the Nos. 3, 6 and 9 cornerbacks respectively in the ESPN 150. The Buckeyes also have ESPN 150 standouts in defensive tackle Joey Bosa, athlete Jalin Marshall, ILB Trey Johnson, OLB Mike Mitchell, TE Marcus Baugh, RB Ezekiel Elliott and OT Evan Lisle. In total, the Buckeyes have 14 ESPN 300 prospects.
Who they want: Ohio State's class isn't wrapped up by any stretch as the Buckeyes are going after some big ESPN 150 names. Included in that list are S Vonn Bell and WR James Quick, who committed to Louisville but is still being recruited heavily by the Buckeyes. Don't count out ESPN 300 prospects such as RB Cornelius Elder or WR Shelton Gibson. LB Christopher Worley could join the class as well.
Signing day surprise: Ohio State's need for another offensive lineman is filled when Dan Skipper decommits from Tennessee and comes to the Buckeyes. Urban Meyer flipped seven recruits last year and has already done it twice in this class.-- Brad Bournival

5. Texas A&M Aggies
Who they have: There are six ESPN 150 prospects and 11 ESPN 300 prospects in the class, with ILB Jordan Mastrogiovanni the latest addition. There are eight potential receivers in the group -- five categorized as wide receivers, including Tony Stevens and Ja'Quay Williams; three athletes, led by the nation's top ATH, Ricky Seals-Jones; and No. 1 TE Derrick Griffin. There are seven LBs, including Brett Wade, Reggie Chevis and Tommy Sanders. The Aggies also landed four DTs, led by Justin Manning and Isaiah Golden.
Who they want: Spots are at a premium now and if the Aggies add any more players, there probably will be attrition from the class. Still on the target list are ESPN 150 ILB Isaac Savaiinaea, CBs Mackensie Alexander and Shaq Wiggins, DEs Torrodney Prevot (USC commit) and Daeshon Hall and former USC WR commit Sebastian LaRue.
Signing day surprise: Even with space at a premium with the Aggies holding 35 commits, they'll land at least one more of their top remaining targets between now and signing day. That also means there will be some attrition in the class, as 34 is the maximum they can sign. -- Sam Khan Jr.

6. Georgia Bulldogs
Who they have: The Bulldogs have filled needs at inside linebacker and safety, with four at each position. There are two ESPN 150 commits on each side of the ball -- QB Brice Ramsey and ATH Tramel Terry on offense, and S Tray Matthews and CB Shaq Wiggins on defense.
Who they want: It all starts with Laremy Tunsil, a five-star OT who currently favors Georgia over Alabama. If Tunsil is target No. 1, five-star Montravius Adams could very well be 1A. Although Georgia has one RB already committed, ESPN 150 target Alvin Kamara remains a top priority. Juco defensive lineman Toby Johnson is also coveted.
Signing day surprise: Reuben Foster, who has twice passed over the Bulldogs, will choose Georgia on signing day. -- Radi Nabulsi

7. South Carolina Gamecocks
Who they have: South Carolina has a solid duo to build on in the offensive backfield with ESPN 150 running back David Williams and ESPN 300 quarterback Connor Mitch. The Gamecocks mirror that on defense with ESPN 150 defensive tackle Kelsey Griffin and ESPN 300 linebacker Larenz Bryant.
Who they want: The Gamecocks could be the favorite for four-star offensive lineman Na'Ty Rodgers and look to get the final official visit Jan. 18. They are also in the mix for three-star linebacker Yannick Ngakoue.
Signing day surprise: The Gamecocks get Georgia back for taking ESPN 300 ATH Brendan Langley by getting a late flip from ESPN 150 CB Shaq Wiggins. -- Kipp Adams

8. Louisville Cardinals
Who they have: ESPN 150 receiver James Quick is the headliner after picking his local team last weekend at the U.S. Army All-American Bowl. ESPN 300 receiver Richard Benjamin will join him in Louisville, where the two will pair with longtime quarterback commit Kyle Bolin.
Who they want: Louisville would certainly like to secure some offensive linemen to match with its strong haul of skill-position players. As of now, the Cardinals have only one committed: three-star offensive tackle Skylar Lacy. Fellow-three-star Kyle Meadows would be a strong pickup.
Signing day surprise: Four-star cornerback Darius Curry has been committed to Oklahoma State since July, but Louisville has made a recent run. Don't be surprised if he decides to be a Cardinal with all the positive momentum in Louisville. -- Dave Hooker

9. Clemson Tigers
Who they have: Clemson has a solid group of commitments at the top on defense, with the ESPN 150 quartet of outside linebacker Dorian O'Daniel, defensive end Ebenezer Ogundeko, inside linebacker Ben Boulware and running back Tyshon Dye being the headliners of the class so far.
Who they want: The Tigers would love to add a pair of big-time talents on each side of the ball. On offense, Clemson is hoping for commitments from ESPN 150 wide receiver Marquez North and ESPN 150 offensive lineman Tyrone Crowder. On defense, it is in the mix for ESPN 150 defensive lineman Montravius Adams and ESPN 150 cornerback Mackensie Alexander, both of whom are five-star prospects.
Signing day surprise: With the loss of Demarcus Robinson and Ryan Jenkins, Clemson sells Marquez North on playing time and he picks the Tigers over North Carolina and Tennessee. -- Kipp Adams

10. Florida Gators
Who they have: With 26 commitments, including 20 ranked four-star or higher, the Gators sit comfortably in the top five in the latest class rankings. The Gators are led by DB Vernon Hargreaves III, the No. 3-ranked player in the country, in addition to these other ESPN 150 prospects: OLBs Daniel McMillian and Matt Rolin and safeties Keanu Neal and Marcell Harris. Offensively, the Gators need playmakers, and that is exactly what they have in this class. Four-star RB Kelvin Taylor is the state of Florida's leading career rusher, and he's joined by another four-star RB, Adam Lane. The Gators have five WR commits, led by 6-foot-4 Ahmad Fulwood, Demarcus Robinson and four-star ATH Alvin Bailey.
Who they want: Florida has just a few spots remaining in its 2013 class. DT Montravius Adams, WR James Clark, RB Alex Collins, fullback Kennard Swanson, CB Jalen Ramsey and DE Elijah Daniel appear to be the top prospects remaining on Florida's board. Florida has met a majority of its needs but might be able to reclaim its No. 1 ranking by landing a few more targets.
Signing day surprise: Many think DT Montravius Adams will head to Clemson, Auburn or Georgia, but with a lack of depth, the Gators could be the surprise team with Adams. Florida lost Sharrif Floyd to the draft and Omar Hunter to graduation. Landing Adams on signing day would help round out an already strong class. -- Derek Tyson

11. Texas Longhorns
Who they have: Texas has commitments from No. 1 C Darius James, No. 3 OT Jake Raulerson and No. 6 OT Kent Perkins. All three are members of the ESPN 150, as are WR Jacorey Warrick (No. 59), DT A'Shawn Robinson (No. 107), ATH Tyrone Swoopes (No. 128) and CB Antwuan Davis (No. 149). Texas also has four other members of the ESPN 300, including OLB Deoundrei Davis at No. 151.
Who they want: Keeping Robinson on board is priority No. 1. He'll visit Alabama on Jan. 18 and Texas on Jan. 25 before announcing his final decision on signing day. The top uncommitted recruit has to be Waco, Texas, lineman Andrew Billings, who is down to Texas, Baylor and TCU. Another key target is juco OT Desmond Harrison, who took an official visit in December and will decide in mid-January. The Longhorns are also among the leaders for juco LB De'Vondre Campbell and have recently expressed interest in top OT Laremy Tunsil, who says he'll visit, and Baylor OL commit Rami Hammad.
Signing day surprise: The Longhorns showed their power in the last months of the recruiting season a year ago by getting several players to switch commitments. That included Shiro Davis, who switched from LSU to Texas on signing day. Don't expect Texas to get as many switches as it did last year but do expect at least one on or before Feb. 6. -- William Wilkerson

12. Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Who they have: Notre Dame has No. 2 outside linebacker and five-star prospect Jaylon Smith leading the class, and the Irish added RB Greg Bryant and ATH Max Redfield, top-five at their respective positions, after the season.
Who they want: The Irish would love to add No. 4 defensive tackle Eddie Vanderdoes when he decides close to or on signing day.
Signing day surprise: Notre Dame will land two of the three current or former USC commits it is after. Two from decommitted prospects Vanderdoes and Sebastian LaRue and USC pledge Torrodney Prevot will sign with the Irish. -- Jared Shanker

13. LSU Tigers
Who they have: LSU picked up the two most highly rated players in its class when athlete Kendell Beckwith (No. 19 in the ESPN 150) and defensive tackle Maquedius Bain (No. 43) pledged to the Tigers inthe Under Armour Game week. The class also fills offensive needs with two ESPN 300 quarterbacks (Hayden Rettig and Anthony Jennings), four offensive linemen, two tight ends and three wide receivers.
Who they want: LSU would love to finish strong and has its sights aimed high. No. 1 overall recruit Robert Nkemdiche has LSU in his final two. Securing the dominant defensive end would be the feather in the cap of an already outstanding defensive line class. LSU also hopes to land two more players in the top 50: safety Priest Willis and defensive end Tim Williams.
Signing day surprise: Nkemdiche is, by most accounts, an Ole Miss lean, but the chance to play for one of the nation's premier producers of defensive line talent in a year when it has a profound need for immediate help has to be tempting. I'm calling for a signing day surprise based on the desire to develop under LSU defensive line coach Brick Haley and defensive coordinator John Chavis. -- Gary Laney

14. TCU Horned Frogs
Who they have: TCU has two four-star players in running back Kyle Hicks and outside linebacker Paul Whitmill. Perhaps the most intriguing commit of the class is three-star athlete Ty Slanina, who can play multiple positions on both sides of the ball.
Who they want: The Horned Frogs are still in the running for four-star lineman Andrew Billings. At 6-foot-2 and 308 pounds, Billings can play either offensive guard or defensive tackle.
Signing day surprise: TCU currently has zero quarterbacks committed. This could mean room for one or two high school recruits -- or, perhaps, a high school recruit and a junior college recruit looking to prove themselves. Baker Mayfield, Jake Hubenak or junior college QB A.J. Derby could be options. -- Damon Sayles

15. Oregon State Beavers
Who they have: The Beavers have done a terrific job at the junior college level, with three outstanding prospects in cornerback Steven Nelson and defensive tackles Kyle Peko and Edwin Delva. ESPN 300 cornerback Dashon Hunt was a big recruiting victory as well.
Who they want: Cornerback L.J. Moore and linebacker Keishawn Bierria will receive a big push from the Beavers' coaching staff as signing day nears. The Beavers also will receive the final visit from Brayden Kearsley, a four-star offensive tackle.
Signing day surprise: The Beavers won't lose any of their verbal commitments. The Oregon State coaches do such a great job of evaluating the recruits who not only fit the system on the field but also fit into the program off of it. And the players in this class haven't used their commitments to Oregon State as a placeholder as they look at other programs. This is a tight-knit group that is looking forward to playing for coach Mike Riley. -- Erik McKinney

16. Florida State Seminoles
Who they have: The Seminoles have a commitment from one of the top running backs in the country, Ryan Green (St. Petersburg, Fla./St. Petersburg), at the top of their class for the time being, and got a BCS championship day surprise when former Alabama DE commit DeMarcus Walker decided to flip to the Noles. FSU also has four commitments from linebackers and three from offensive linemen for 2013.
Who they want: Top outside linebacker Matthew Thomas (Miami/Booker T. Washington), ESPN 150 running back Alex Collins (Plantation, Fla./South Plantation), ESPN 150 wide receiver Stacy Coley (Oakland Park, Fla./Northeast) and four-star tackle Denver Kirkland (Miami/Booker T. Washington). If the Seminoles can land that quartet, it will go a long way to salvage what has been a lower-ranked class when compared with the previous year.
Signing day surprise: Davin Bellamy flipping to either Auburn or Tennessee. With ace recruiter Dameyune Craig now at Auburn, and D.J. Eliot at Kentucky, there is a chance Bellamy might not be as enamored of FSU as he once was. Florida State's new assistants will have to prove themselves to Bellamy when he visits. -- Corey Dowlar

17. Oklahoma Sooners
Who they have: OU has fared well at the skill positions with four of the Sooners' seven ESPN 300 commits in the showcase positions. Leading the way is running back Keith Ford, who is No. 29 in the ESPN 150. Quarterback Cody Thomas has vaulted back into the ESPN 300 at No. 248, and four-star athlete Stanvon Taylor is No. 200. Taylor's versatility has made him a hot commodity as he can play either wide receiver or cornerback. Anchoring things at safety is ESPN 300 prospect Hatari Byrd. After a positive official visit to OU in October, it looks as if Byrd and the Sooners are a perfect match. OU has made a solid push up front with four commits in the past month, highlighted by ESPN JC 100 OT Josiah St. John.
Who they want: The Sooners need a little bit of help at various spots. Two prospects who really stand out are four-star OT Aaron Cochran and ESPN 300 athlete Adrian Baker. Both have made official visits to OU. Baker is down to OU and Clemson, and OU is among four schools in the running for Cochran. The flipped commitment of ESPN 300 LB Jordan Mastrogiovanni to Texas A&M really hurts as the Sooners thought the linebacker was secure. OU also needs a lot of help in the secondary. The Sooners are hoping Fresno (Calif.) Central East can help out one more time. Sooners have the commitment of Hatari Byrd and are aiming for four-star CB L.J. Moore.
Signing day surprise: Been a tough week for Sooners on the field and on the trail. But OU will close strong, highlighted by getting ESPN 300 athlete Adrian Baker. Coincidentally, OU's Mike Stoops will help lure Baker to Norman instead of Clemson, where the defensive coordinator is former longtime OU coach Brent Venables. -- Bob Przybylo

18. Wisconsin Badgers
Who they have: Luckily for new coach Gary Andersen, the Badgers still have every recruit that was previously committed under Bret Bielema, which includes ESPN 300 RB Corey Clement.
Who they want: The Badgers missed on several QB targets in the 2013 class, so Andersen is hoping to reel in newly offered three-star QB Michael Julian.
Signing day surprise: Andersen will hold onto four-star DE Alec James, the No. 1 player in Wisconsin and the second-highest-rated player in the Badgers' class. James is looking hard at Florida State, Michigan State and Oregon, but he will remain with Wisconsin come signing day. -- Jared Shanker

19. Boise State Broncos
Who they have: Running back Aaron Baltazar is the top-ranked recruit for the Broncos, and Boise State has done a terrific job loading up with offensive skill players. Quarterback Ryan Finley will receive plenty of help from four-star offensive guard Andrew Tercek as well as receivers Jack Austin and Kendal Keys and tight end Alec Dhaenens.
Who they want: The Broncos' class is filling quickly, but Boise State is scheduled to receive visits from safety James Crawford and running back Rennie Childs (Houston/Cypress Ridge) in late January.
Signing day surprise: Boise State will land an ESPN 300 recruit. The Broncos are close with Baltazar, who has an 82 grade and is closing in on the ESPN 300, but the Broncos have been too strong in this recruiting cycle not to hit on a remaining target or flip a potential Pac-12 signee. Chris Petersen and his staff have made a strong impression on every recruit they've brought to Boise on official visits, and that is going to pay off as signing day nears. -- Erik McKinney

20. Nebraska Cornhuskers
Who they have: Nebraska looks set at quarterback and running back with Johnny Stanton and Adam Taylor. Outside linebackers Marcus Newby, Josh Banderas and Courtney Love should help the Huskers reload in an area that has lacked depth.
Who they want: Safety Priest Willis, the No. 50 prospect in the ESPN 150, remains the top target for Nebraska. The Huskers also would like to add muscle at the line of scrimmage with offensive tackle Aaron Cochran.
Signing day surprise: Taylor, a back from Katy (Texas) High School, capped a big year with a great performance in the state title game. A school closer to home, maybe even Texas, is going to pose a late threat to the Huskers for his signature. -- Mitch Sherman

21. UCLA Bruins
Who they have: The Bruins will add some terrific skill position players in ESPN 300 wide receiver Eldridge Massington and four-star running back Craig Lee. But it's along the offensive line where this class will shine with commitments from ESPN 300 center Scott Quessenberry and ESPN 300 guard John Lopez leading the way.
Who they want: Running back Terrell Newby will decide between UCLA and Nebraska on Wednesday. The Bruins also could load up in the defensive backfield, as ESPN 150 safeties Priest Willis and Tahaan Goodman are still very much in play, along with ESPN 300 cornerback Johnny Johnson Jr. (Fresno, Calif./Central).
Signing day surprise: The Bruins will land the Pac-12's second-ranked class. Although the USC Trojans probably will finish with the conference's top-ranked group of players, thanks to a terrific batch of early enrollees, the Bruins will cruise to the No. 2 spot and might even challenge the Trojans at the top. This group of coaches will close in a big way and will add at least three ESPN 300 recruits by signing day. -- Erik McKinney

22. Northwestern Wildcats
Who they have: Pat Fitzgerald could be putting together his best class at Northwestern in 2013. ESPN 300 quarterback Matt Alviti is expected to be the future of the program, and four-star Godwin Igwebuike is a highly sought-after athlete.
Who they want: Alviti would be happy to see the Wildcats bring in four-star receiver James Clark, who officially visited Northwestern.
Signing day surprise: It will be a quiet Feb. 6 for Fitzgerald, which is great news as it means none of his commitments will be leaving for schools considered better programs. -- Jared Shanker

23. Michigan Wolverines
Who they have: Michigan's class is led by QB commit Shane Morris, who is No. 54 in the ESPN 150. Michigan has five committed offensive linemen from the ESPN 150: David Dawson (87), Logan Tuley-Tillman (105), Chris Fox (113), Patrick Kugler (115) and Kyle Bosch (127).
Who they want: Despite having five defensive backs, two linebackers and two running backs already committed, Michigan is still targeting a few linebackers, DB Reon Dawson and RB Derrick Green. The Wolverines also have reached out to former USC WR commit Sebastian LaRue, as it looks as though target Laquon Treadwell is headed elsewhere.
Signing day surprise: The Wolverines are on the right track to cure the run game problems from 2012. There is a chance Michigan will finish the 2013 class with a top-five QB, six ESPN 300 OL commits and a top-five running back in Derrick Green (Richmond, Va./Hermitage). -- Tom VanHaaren

24. Oklahoma State Cowboys
Who they have: The Cowboys have three of the top receivers in the country in Fred Ross Jr., Marcell Ateman and Under Armour All-American Ra'Shaad Samples. They also have defensive end Sam Wren, who is ranked No. 14 in the ESPN Junior College 100.
Who they want: Four-star athlete Devin Lauderdale could fit in well for the Cowboys. At 5-foot-11 and 170 pounds, he can play either cornerback or receiver, but his worth could be in the secondary.
Signing day surprise: Could we see one of those stud wide receivers make a left turn with his commitment? All three are high-profile players, and late pushes by outside programs tend to happen in the closing weeks. Kentucky really wants Samples. Is playing in the SEC enough for him to consider? -- Damon Sayles

25. USC
Who they have: All of USC's commits are four-star recruits and all but one are ranked in the ESPN 300, including 10 ESPN 150 members. The Trojans have secured commitments from No. 1- and No. 3-rated safeties Su'a Cravens and Leon McQuay III, respectively, No. 2-rated defensive tackle Kenny Bigelow, as well linebacker Michael Hutchings, cornerback Chris Hawkins and defensive end Kylie Fitts -- all of whom are ranked atop their position group among California recruits. And with Matt Barkley graduating, USC locked up its future quarterback in Max Browne, the No. 2-rated pocket passer and No. 18 overall prospect.
Who they want: USC will continue pursuing No. 4-rated DT Eddie Vanderdoes, who recently decommitted from the Trojans. USC is also in the running for juco OT Desmond Harrison and Texas DT commit A'Shawn Robinson. There appears to be a spot open for another linebacker in the class, and No. 1-rated OLB Matthew Thomas, No. 2-rated ILB Trey Johnson and No. 8-rated OLB Quinton Powell are scheduled to visit campus Jan. 18.
Signing day surprise: Ace recruiter Ed Orgeron will secure another commitment from the South. -- Blair Angulo
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28. "Brian Kelly flirts with NFL, loses star LB recruit to the Gators"
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http://www.tampabay.com/sports/college/linebacker-alex-anzalone-drops-notre-dame-expected-to-join-florida-gators/1270004

GAINESVILLE — Alex Anzalone, a four-star-rated linebacker recruit from Pennsylvania who had orally committed to Notre Dame, has decided to play at Florida instead and is scheduled to enroll this week.

Anzalone must be enrolled at UF by the end of the day today as the spring admission period ends. He orally committed to Notre Dame in July but has had multiple visits to UF. He was part of the Gators' invitation-only Friday Night Lights camp in July and participated in last week's Under Armour All-America Game.

Oral commitments are not binding, and Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly's interest in the NFL could have played a role.

Anzalone of Wyomissing, Pa., is a 6-foot-3, 232-pound player who is rated the No. 11 outside linebacker by espn.com, No. 5 by 247Sports.

  

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29. "RE: Brian Kelly flirts with NFL, loses star LB recruit to the Gators"
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Isn't this the same kid who decommitted from OSU because of the pedo hanging around the football program?

  

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30. "Right and wrong..."
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>Isn't this the same kid who decommitted from OSU because of
>the pedo hanging around the football program?

C'mon, we aren't Ped State.

He wasn't hanging around the "program". He's not a booster. TOSU had no affiliation whatsoever...dude worked fast food & lived in BFE, Kentucky.

He was hanging out in the tailgate area outside of the stadium where everyone drinks smokes etc & some high profile recruits were also. He asked for a picture with Anzalone, and Anzalone obliged. Later on, people found out he was pedo bc of some internet sleuth, and his dad went ape shit.




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37. "you are taking that a little personally"
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cmon

he was hanging around the program. it's not like it's actually anybody's fault...

  

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41. ""hanging around the football program""
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IDK about you, but to me that reads like he's reading the newspaper and chilling in the Woody Hayes Athletic Center

it was an isolated incident. we cant run background checks on everyone who attends a spring game...

I was just clarifying.

Just like when I said Oregon paid for Willie Lyles to steer them some players (Lache and Seastrunk) from deep in the heeeeaaaart of Texas...lol


btw I was hoping Chip Kelly would leave so that Dontre Wilson *might* take a look around but thats dead now...

  

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45. "you and greg doyle can blow me"
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>Just like when I said Oregon paid for Willie Lyles to steer
>them some players

Nothing that's been said by any of the parties suggests that Lyles did anything to push James or Seastrunk to Oregon, and everything that's been said suggests that Lyles helped each kid reach Eugene after they had decided it was where they wanted to be.

And your Wilson problem would be this guy, not Chip: http://tinyurl.com/b4mecc8

  

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43. "umm, had nothing to do with Kelly interviewing"
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just like decomitting from OSU had nothing to do with random sex offender

the kid is a flake and wanted to go to Florida all along

he (or really his dad) just didn't have the class to come out and say it

  

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44. "IDK, I gave him the benefit of the doubt on that one...."
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but he does seem to have the type of helicopter dad who prob gives advice to Fickell and Vrabel on how to do their jobs

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31. "Butch Jones is doing a heck of a job"
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Our recruiting was completely in the toilet when he took over, but now we could finish very strong. We've already moved back into the top 25.

  

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32. "Wait & See..."
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I'm remaining pessimistic until I see how things work out. Lot of holes to fill, but he's got some big time recruits' attention. These next two weekends are huge in terms of who will be on campus for official/unoffical visits.

  

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33. "To even have their attention like this is huge"
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We went from being in on basically nobody good, to a real player with a lot of top talent very quickly. His recruiting in the coming years, when he actually has time to build relationships, is going to be great.

  

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39. "Tennessee is loaded in 2014 (in relative terms)"
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I've never wanted to see a kid in orange more than Jalen Hurd. Lot of ground to make up there though.

  

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34. "meanwhile...Tommy Tuberville is still a cunt"
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Tommy Tuberville has made a habit of miffing players who committed to Cincinnati while Butch Jones was coach, causing at least three players to rescind their commitments from the Bearcats.

First, there was Kyle Kempt, an Ohio quarterback who had planned on sticking with Cincinnati instead of following Jones to Tennessee, where he had also been recruited. But Tuberville began offering other quarterbacks in his class, causing the quarterback to change his mind and his coach to ban Cincinnati coaches from his high school.

Now, there's two more: defensive back Demetrius Monday said Tuberville's coaching staff never contacted him in the month since the coach left Texas Tech to take the Cincinnati job. When Monday's family reached out to the program this week, the team told him the high school senior should "look other places," causing him to decommit Thursday. His father spoke to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

"The thing is, we've talked to some other kids committed to Cincinnati. They say the same thing, that they haven't heard from the staff. Basically (Tuberville) isn't calling anybody, he's trying to get the kids to de-commit on their own.

"It's a bad situation."

Jaleel Canty, also a defensive back, had a similar story, requesting a conversation with the coach Thursday but being told he was busy and that the school didn't want him anymore.

It's not clear whether Tuberville plans to keep any of the players who made their commitment under Jones. Tuberville has brought in seven players since coming to Cincinnati, but there are still nine players recruited by Jones who have yet to decommit.

Seven players is not a full class, and there's only a few weeks before signing day. It would seem Tuberville shouldn't burn bridges with his remaining recruits, but there's no indication he's been on good terms with anybody since coming to the Bearcats.
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38. "jesus what an asshole"
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i used to kind of like the guy but sheesh

  

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40. "It's almost like he doesn't even want to be there and left just to leave"
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Wonder if he has something else lined up to go do next year...you'd think nobody would hire him but that's just now how college fb works

  

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42. "how is it smart to burn bridges with high school coaches..."
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many of whom have a HUGE behind the door say in which school a player chooses...

Lol, forget D1 coaches. Even CFB dorks sitting on a message boards know that is not smart.


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46. "Yea even if he is planning on going far away it's not a good move"
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Its like he is purposely trying to tank

  

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49. "Lane being Lane"
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/recruit-decommits-usc-lane-kiffin-pulls-scholarship-three-165651928--ncaaf.html

Redlands (Calif.) East Valley High School and USC coach Lane Kiffin are at odds thanks to a deferred scholarship.
Defensive end Kylie Fitts, a four-star recruit Rivals ranked seventh nationally at his position, was committed to USC and took extra high school classes so he could graduate early and enroll at the university in January.
Fitts talked to a couple USC coaches at the U.S. Army All-American Bowl on Jan. 5 and they said they were ready to have him on campus. But the following Monday, he received a call saying his scholarship was no longer available for the spring semester.
Fitts was supposed to be on campus on Jan. 10.
The Trojans didn't pull his scholarship entirely, but deferred him to the fall. However, since Fitts had already graduated high school, he had nowhere to go and didn't want to wait.
“Recruiting man, it’s crazy,” Redlands East Valley coach Kurt Bruich told the Riverside Press-Enterprise. “He’s wanted to go to USC for as long as he can remember and now he feels betrayed. He did everything he was supposed to do from his end and he was a loyal kid. I think they thought because of that loyalty he’d still want to go there. He said to me ‘What am I supposed to do for the next five months?’ It seems shady. I think it seems shady to everyone.”
Consequently, Fitts, who was recruited and offered by several major programs around the country, has decommitted from the Trojans and opened up his recruiting.
Bruich told the Riverside Press-Enterprise that Notre Dame, Washington and UCLA were all back in the mix.
The whole scenario has caused some consternation between Bruich, who runs one of the better programs in the state, and USC. Bruich even took to Twitter on Friday to express his feelings about USC and specifically coach Lane Kiffin.

Recruiting issues like this happen everywhere, but this isn’t exactly the kind of publicity USC needs right now, especially on the heels of an underachieving season, which resulted in a bowl loss to Georgia Tech and a 7-6 record.
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50. "No idea why they didn't mention us in that article ;)"
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51. "shit, these coaches have to let their kids know"
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USC only has 15 scholarships to give for the next three years. they're always going to be looking for someone better than you, whether you're committed or not. don't get stuck high and dry when your scholarship evaporates -- because anybody who ain't in Lane's national top 15 is looking to be replaced before February.

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52. " Duck Commits, Recruits React"
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http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/1258283.html

Just three weeks before Signing Day, Oregon head coach Chip Kelly has decided to leave Eugene and was hired and announced as the new head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles.

With 13 commits in the class of 2013, several of the Ducks' top commits reacted to the news.

One of the headliners for the Ducks is West Linn (Ore.) four-star offensive tackle Evan Voeller, the second commit to the Ducks, and one of three in-state commits.

Voeller said nothing has changed for him, a stance he took earlier this month a midst the earlier speculation.

"I'm still solid," said Voeller.

Modesto (Calif.) Central Catholic four-star tight end John Mundt echoed much the same.

"Nothing's changed, I'm still solid to Oregon," said Mundt.

American Canyon (Calif.) cornerback Chris Seisay was struck by the news, but he too, isn't going anywhere.

"It doesn't really affect me," said Seisay. "I am disappointed but my commitment is still solid to Oregon."

San Diego (Calif.) Lincoln four-star receiver Tyree Robinson is committed to the Ducks, along with his twin brother, four-star linebacker Tyrell Robinson.

Tyree tweeted, "Doesn't matter whats happening as of now I'm a Duck an plan staying 1," on Wednesday morning.

Of course, the big fish for the Ducks is Beaverton (Ore.) Aloha five-star running back Thomas Tyner, the top player in the state, and the #2-ranked running back nationally.

Tyner told Scout at the U.S. Army Bowl that he was solid to Oregon no matter what, even if Kelly left, but he couldn't be reached for comment after Wednesday's events.

Juwaan Williams, an Oregon target, told Robby Boydstun of eDuck.com, "I'm still considering them. I know the staff will stay the same."

USC commit Torrodney Prevot is planning to visit Oregon officially, and the Texas native told Ahmard Vital of Scout.com, "Wow. He's a big asset to the program, but one man isn't the whole program. I wish him the best of luck."

Prevot told Vital he still plans to visit Oregon.

And four-star running back Dontre Wilson, another Texas native, and a Duck commit may take a visit, but his coach said he's still with Oregon.

"Dontre is still a Duck," head coach Claude Mathis told Erin Hartigan. Corona (Calif.) Centennial offensive lineman Cameron Hunt still plans to visit Oregon this weekend and said nothing has changed for him.

"Coach Greatwood is coming over later today for a home visit and I'm still visiting Oregon this weekend," Hunt told Greg Biggins. "I think they'll keep most if not all of the staff together so I still like Oregon as much as always, they're still high on my list."

Cedar Hill (Tx) quarterback Damion Hobbs confirmed he will still be making his official visit to Oregon next Friday (1/25).

Hobbs said he is excited to hear Ducks offensive coordinator Mark Helfrich could replace Kelly. After all, Helfrich is the coach he's been communicating with, and a large reason why he's making trip.
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53. "dontre wilson and the robinson twins set to visit OSU"
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gotta love recruiting!

OSU gonna have to do few current players dirty if any of these kids actually want to sign on...

  

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54. "As long as we keep Gary Campbell, we'll keep Wilson. And one of the twi..."
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sounds more committed to us than the other. They're also reasonably tight with Dana Altman for basketball.

  

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55. "i dont see the twins as all that realistic"
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wilson i think there's a real shot

  

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56. "4 Star safety Tyler Foreman to UCLA"
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Big time get...he decommitted from Wisconsin after the coaching change..

big time hitter

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57. "Ole Miss has to be cheating."
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That is all.

  

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58. "i concur"
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119. "lol... http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBz9YUPCIAA2hXd.jpg"
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http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBz9YUPCIAA2hXd.jpg

  

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188. "if you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin"
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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.†(c) The God

  

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59. "Dorian Johnson upgraded to 5 stars by Rivals, Pitt's first since 2008"
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60. "I really thought Foster would stay at home..."
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but Nick Saban usually gets what he wants

  

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61. "Yea that was a HUGE letdown for us"
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His mom and family wanted him to go to Pitt so bad and he had formed a great relationship with Bobby Engrem our WR coach.

Most accounts say even up until the morning he announced he was planning on Pitt, but Alabama made a last ditch effort and got him.

One story is his mom didnt like the staff at Alabama and that was playing a big role but they made it up to her in some way at the last minute (sounds like a story out of Blue Chips).

We landed Tyler Boyd who in some ways is just as explosive, but bringing them both in would have given us a pretty high powered offense in a few years with those two and either voytek or Chapman throwing to them.

  

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62. "Nashville RB Cornelius Elder down to Ohio St. & UCLA"
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most have thought he was a sure bet for OSU, but the guy keeps UCLA in the picture...think he realizes he'd have a great opportunity for touches right away at UCLA

his skill set looks perfect for our offense

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63. "The kid is an ILL point guard, too."
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He actually might be better at basketball.

  

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66. "Ben Howland could use him too...lol."
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64. "elder doesn't have a commitable offer from OSU"
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there's a bunch of other WR's they're higher on and numbers are tight given the schollie reductions. elder prob won't get an offer unless a bunch of other options fall through which is definitely possible.

  

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65. "got 4 of my guys I can speak on with some probability...."
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WR AJ Richardson to Boise State....
LB/S Kieshawn Bierria to Oregon....
DT/DE Paulo Lepua to Washington State...
DT Victor Valentine to Missouri...

beyond them I got 3 other guys who are right on the verge of D-1 offers...Marquis Lomax, Kwentin Polk, and Bruce Hicks..

plus 3 more to D-2.... Lejon Fisher, Tony Gates, Robert Wood


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67. "still haven't heard anything about Bierria... you sticking to your guns ..."
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68. "I just left the Ducks LB coach...."
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The Ducks are his first choice.... he's about to trip there..

I know Oregon State wants him more...but judging by the convo I just had.... I'd bet he ends up with the Ducks.

  

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69. "hmmm... thanks"
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117. "sounds like we agreed to part ways"
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I think we're expecting a switch from Johnny Ragin now that it seems we want him after all...

Oregon State? UW?

  

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131. "well...he actually to a trip on 1/29 to Eugene.... "
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I got a call about him on Friday from Oregon so I think he's still on the radar..

haven't talked to him yet today ...was curious to hear how the Washington leg of his trip went..

Sark is 3 for 3 with our guys who have visited there over the years so we will see..

  

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132. "It sounded on my end like that visit had been cancelled"
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for whatever reason.

and the services all reported that he visited UW & Corvallis, but none mentioned us.

  

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136. "just found out it's down to UW....Oregon State....with San Diego St."
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as an outside possiblity..

  

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133. "do you have talks with your kids bout how to act on these trips?"
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not that official visits havent always been out of hand but given how popular recruiting has become lately i feel like shit could very easily get REALLY out of hand

  

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137. "not really.... haven't had to. Pretty much all of the kids we've had"
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who were in a position to make official visits were extremely straight laced kids...with very very hands on parents.

I know there are some things that go on during those trips..but we haven't had any issues yet...plus at least 1 parent has gone with each of the kids we've sent out like that.

  

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70. "More USC hits"
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Crazy shit...

Hatcher is the latest to re-open his recruitment.

Of their current class, it's totally conceivable that Prevot (A&M? us?) Ramsey (Florida?) Falah (Us? UW?) and Isaac (ND?) all switch. They already lost Vanderdoes and LaRue... (I realize LaRue wasn't that big of a deal to them.)

  

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73. "those investigators are moving north"
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so don't be so hee-hee about it

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But hell, what do I know?

  

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74. "moving? they've investigated. that's over."
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It's just a matter of the NCAA deciding (agreeing on) what they want to do about it.

foh

and I wasn't being hee-hee about it at all
that was a completely dispassionate take on the situation

  

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75. "Chip Kelly moved East"
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like Carroll moved to SEA

just saying.

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71. "recruiting violation?"
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/01/22/nebraska-transfer-pat-smith-state-trooper/1854953/

<-Fear Ameer

  

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72. "LOL absolutely"
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76. "5 star CB Jalen Ramsey de-coms from USC..."
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that along with Hatcher yesterday..

cats are jumping ship..

Pat Haden is going to regret not moving on Kiffin ..

  

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77. "Damn, these kids are spooked as hell"
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Has Lane hired a DC yet?

Right now, I doubt even Del Rio could douse that dumpster fire
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79. "Clancy Pendergast, Tedford's last DC"
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They just fired sanders (DBs) though, so there's still an opening to fill...

  

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78. "Mona Lisa in the hall three safes in the wall"
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Bielema doin pretty well so far. it couldn't have gotten worse i suppose.

lets see if he can land a LANDMARK RECRUIT. Altee Tenpenny, despite having a fucking legendary name, is the best recruit in Arkansas high school. obviously then he is committed to Bama. but this was before Billy B arrived in Arky and i think he could be attracted to starting multiple years, and ya know, competing against Bama. he made an official visit so hopefully he turns away glory and tradition and national championships to beast for his home state (lol).

Hunter Henry, rated the #2 TE in the country, has been committed for over a year. he is 6'6 and reportedly ran a 4.37 (DAMN)

Austin Allen had offers from everywhere between Notre Dame and Alabama. he is a part of the "Fayeteville trio" that have all committed to Arkansas. he's ranked as the 3rd best prospect in the state

WR Drew Morgan (WHITE!!! 4.4 SPEED!!), a two time MVP of the state championship game, has committed to Arkansas after being harrassed by Gus Malzahn for months.

Bielema signed a stud Hawaiian O-lineman, 4 star recruit, the best we have signed as of yet. hope some guys rescind and go with Billy B. signing 5 JUCO guys, mainly LBs and DBs, is a great move as well. signed the nations best OLB!!

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80. "RE: Countdown to CFB signing day...."
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With less than two weeks to go before national signing day on Feb. 6, RecruitingNation has put together a list of the ESPN 300 prospects who are still uncommitted and where they are likely to sign. With some recruits still taking official visits and several planning to announce their college decisions before signing day, this list could look vastly different in two weeks. But for now, here is where the top four- and five-star college football prospects stand.

Robert NkemdicheLoganville, Ga./GraysonESPN 300 RANK: 1POS: DEDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Ole Miss
"It would be hard to see myself not going to Ole Miss because it is a family thing. My whole family wants me to go there. They are on the rise and doing a lot of good things." --Nkemdiche

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Mackensie AlexanderImmokalee, Fla./ImmokaleeESPN 300 RANK: 4POS: CBDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Mississippi State

Alexander has said he would like to play in college with his brother, MacKenro, who has Mississippi State among his offers.

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Laremy TunsilLake City, Fla./ColumbiaESPN 300 RANK: 5POS: OTDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Georgia

Tunsil took an official visit to Athens over the weekend and seemed to enjoy himself. It's a UGA-Alabama race, but the Bulldogs seem to lead.

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Matthew ThomasMiami/Booker T. WashingtonESPN 300 RANK: 6POS: OLBDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Florida State

Thomas took a visit to USC over the weekend but the Trojans are facing an uphill battle against FSU, which will have him on campus Jan. 25.

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Eddie VanderdoesAuburn, Calif./PlacerESPN 300 RANK: 10POS: DTDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Alabama

Since he decommited from USC last month, Alabama has been the consensus to land Vanderdoes.

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Montravius AdamsVienna, Ga./Dooly CountyESPN 300 RANK: 13POS: DTDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Clemson
Adams has said his mother's opinion will factor into his final decision, and after she visited Clemson with her son earlier this month, she seems to be on the Tigers' side.

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Reuben FosterAuburn, Ala./AuburnESPN 300 RANK: 16POS: ILBDECISION DATE: TBD
Auburn
It's anyone's guess on where Foster will end up. Alabama, Georgia and Auburn are still in the mix, but we'll go with Auburn since Foster's family has relocated there.

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Antonio ConnerBatesville, Miss./South PanolaESPN 300 RANK: 24POS: SDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Ole Miss
Conner considered taking a visit to Auburn after Melvin Smith joined the staff from Mississippi State, but that never panned out and now it seems Conner will follow his friend Kailo Moore to Ole Miss instead.

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Dee LinerMuscle Shoals, Ala./Muscle ShoalsESPN 300 RANK: 26POS: DTDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Alabama

Even when he was committed to Auburn in the fall, Liner took multiple trips to Tuscaloosa to watch the Tide play.

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Alvin KamaraNorcross, Ga./NorcrossESPN 300 RANK: 32POS: RBDECISION DATE: TBD
Alabama
Kamara took his first official visit over the weekend to Alabama. He said he was not deterred by the three 2013 running backs already committed to the Tide and feels he can still play a role.

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Derrick GreenRichmond, Va./HermitageESPN 300 RANK: 38POS: RBDECISION DATE: Jan. 26
Michigan

Michigan has the lead over Auburn and Tennessee for Green, who will announce Saturday.

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Stacy ColeyOakland Park, Fla./NortheastESPN 300 RANK: 47POS: WRDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Florida State

Coley took an official to FSU over the weekend and the Seminoles are feeling good about landing him.

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Vonn BellRossville, Ga./RidgelandESPN 300 RANK: 50POS: SDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Alabama

He has one more official to Tennessee to take, but Bell's high school coach has said he is very high on the Crimson Tide.

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Alex CollinsPlantation, Fla./S. PlantationESPN 300 RANK: 57POS: RBDECISION DATE: TBD
Miami

Collins decommited from Miami in November but has kept the Hurricanes high on his list, and they look good for recapturing his commitment.

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Priest WillisTempe, Ariz./Marcos De NizaESPN 300 RANK: 59POS: SDECISION DATE: Jan. 23
UCLA

After he took his final visit to UCLA over the weekend, it seems Willis is ready to cast his lot with the Bruins.

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Sebastian LaRueSanta Monica Calif./Santa MonicaESPN 300 RANK: 74POS: WRDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Texas A&M
LaRue seemed to be leaning toward Notre Dame in the wake of his decommitment from USC in December, but word is he will skip his visit to South Bend Jan. 25, meaning the Aggies may have his top spot.

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Kylie FittsRedlands, Calif./Redlands East ValleyESPN 300 RANK: 85POS: DEDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
USC
Fitts decommitted from the Trojans on Jan. 8 due to limited early enrollment spots, but he is still a big fan of the Trojans and they have not stopped recruiting him.

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Quinton PowellDaytona Beach, Fla./MainlandESPN 300 RANK: 99POS: OLBDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Florida

Powell decommitted from Florida to visit other schools, but the Gators are still in good standing and could easily land him.

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Jordan CunninghamFort Lauderdale, Fla./Univ. SchoolESPN 300 RANK: 107POS: WRDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Stanford

Strong academics are a big factor in Cunningham's recruitment, and Stanford is in the driver's seat because of it.

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Isaac SavaiinaeaHonolulu/PunahouESPN 300 RANK: 120POS: ILBDECISION DATE: TBD
UCLA
Savaiinaea had a great relationship with Brian Polian when he was an assistant at Texas A&M, but now that Polian has taken the head-coaching job at Nevada, UCLA seems to be the logical choice for Savaiinaea.

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Tyrone CrowderRockingham, N.C./RichmondESPN 300 RANK: 125POS: OGDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Clemson

It's down to Clemson and Georgia for Crowder, but Clemson gets the edge because the Tigers have been recruiting him since his freshman year.

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Marquez NorthCharlotte, N.C./Mallard CreekESPN 300 RANK: 133POS: WRDECISION DATE: TBD
North Carolina

North's father said Tennessee was ready to accept a commitment from his son but that Marquez wanted to see UNC first.

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Keith BryantDelray Beach, Fla./Atlantic CommunityESPN 300 RANK: 135POS: DTDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Florida State

Bryant's relationship with FSU assistant coach Odell Haggins is very strong and will be a big factor in his decision.

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Jermaine GraceMiramar, Fla./MiramarESPN 300 RANK: 138POS: OLBDECISION DATE: TBD
Miami

Grace took a visit to Tennessee earlier this month, but Miami has long been thought to be the team to beat.

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Asiantii WoulardWinter Park, Fla./Winter ParkESPN 300 RANK: 143POS: QB/DTDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Clemson
Woulard took a trip to Clemson recently with fellow four-stars James Clark and Kyrin Priester, and Priester gave his pledge to the Tigers. All signs points to Woulard making a similar decision.

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Denver KirklandMiami/Booker T. WashingtonESPN 300 RANK: 144POS: OTDECISION DATE: Feb. 6
Florida State
Kirkland has taken all five of his official visits and hasn't really tipped his hand, but if FSU signs him and Matthew Thomas, the Seminoles will be pleased with the way their final class looks.

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Travis JohnsonTampa, Fla./JesuitESPN 300 RANK: 162POS: TE-HDECISION DATE: TBD
South Florida

Johnson is scheduled to visit USF on Jan. 25, and if all goes well the Bulls will snag a big commitment.

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Adrian BakerHollywood, Fla./Chaminade-MadonnaESPN 300 RANK: 200POS: ATHDECISION DATE: TBD
Oklahoma

Baker has been Oklahoma's No. 1 target in the secondary recently, and it looks like pursuit will pay off.

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Paul James IIIMiami/Miami NorlandESPN 300 RANK: 204POS: DEDECISION DATE: TBD
West Virginia
James has several offers from in-state programs but said over the summer he has always seen himself playing some place outside of Florida. By the looks of things, Morgantown, W. Va., will be that place.

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Cornelius ElderNashville, Tenn./The Ensworth SchoolESPN 300 RANK: 207POS: RBDECISION DATE: TBD
Vanderbilt
Elder grew up minutes from Vanderbilt's campus and knows it well. Schools near and far are recruiting Elder, but the hometown programs will be tough to beat.

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Stacy ThomasMiami/GulliverESPN 300 RANK: 222POS: DEDECISION DATE: TBD
West Virginia
The Mountaineers have a great shot at landing two solid defensive end prospects out of talent-rich Miami, both of whom have offers from the Hurricanes.

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Taj WilliamsTallahassee, Fla./LincolnESPN 300 RANK: 223POS: WRDECISION DATE: TBD
Auburn
"He said he was having the best time and Auburn pretty much shot up his board as a leader. He wanted to commit -- he said he did -- but I know how it is to get caught up in the moment, so I want him to come back and talk about things with his family and go from there." -- Lincoln head coach Yusuf Shakir after Williams' official visit this past weekend

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Vita VeaMilpitas, Calif./MilpitasESPN 300 RANK: 227POS: DEDECISION DATE: TBD
N/A
There is no doubt Vea is a talented football player who has had plenty of Division I looks, but he must improve in the classroom to qualify for the next level.

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Jamel JamesKaty, Texas/Cinco RanchESPN 300 RANK: 231POS: RBDECISION DATE: TBD
Arizona State
James committed to Arkansas initially but backed out after Bobby Petrino was fired. Then he gave his pledge to Notre Dame before opening it up again in December. Now it seems ASU will be his final landing spot.

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Jordan WilkinsCordova, Tenn./Saint Benedict SchoolESPN 300 RANK: 233POS: RBDECISION DATE: TBD
Ole Miss
Wilkins decommited from Auburn on Jan. 20 and said Ole Miss and Vanderbilt are his primary options. The Rebels will have an opportunity to grab his pledge on his official visit on Jan. 25.

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Michael ParkerNokesville, Va./Kettle RunESPN 300 RANK: 234POS: ATHDECISION DATE: TBD
Miami

Parker has said he will wait until after signing day to make his decision but Miami seems to be the leader at this point.

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Camion PatrickLenior City, Tenn./Lenior CityESPN 300 RANK: 242POS: WRDECISION DATE: TBD
JC
Patrick, who was committed to Tennessee until the middle of December, will more than likely take the junior college route.

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Ryan TimmonsFrankfort, Ky./Franklin CountyESPN 300 RANK: 248POS: ATHDECISION DATE: TBD
Ohio State
Ohio State has been on Timmons' list a long time. The only team that could potentially knock a commitment to the Buckeyes off course at this point is a newcomer to his offers list, Florida.

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Andrew BillingsWaco, Texas/WacoESPN 300 RANK: 251POS: OGDECISION DATE: TBD
Texas
Texas recently decided to start recruiting Billings as a defensive tackle rather than an offensive lineman, and the Longhorns have since risen to the top of his list, according to his high school coach.

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Zach CunninghamPinson, Ala./Pinson ValleyESPN 300 RANK: 256POS: OLBDECISION DATE: Feb. 2
Auburn
Cunningham is still taking visits, including to Oregon this past weekend, but his mother loves in-state Auburn, and that will no doubt weigh heavily into his decision.

PLAYER CARD | SCOUTING REPORT
DeVondre SeymourSuwanee, Ga./North GwinnettESPN 300 RANK: 258POS: OTDECISION DATE: TBD
Georgia

Georgia is a slim possibility, but Seymour will probably go the juco or prep route.

PLAYER CARD | SCOUTING REPORT
Jay-nard BostwickPort Saint Lucie, Fla./West CentennialESPN 300 RANK: 285POS: DTDECISION DATE: TBD
Miami

Bostwick is down to Alabama, Florida and Miami. He has expressed an interest in staying close to home, and Miami gives him that.

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Dillan LawsonCrestview, Fla./CrestviewESPN 300 RANK: 286POS: OLBDECISION DATE: TBD
N/A
Lawson isn't in the best academic standing of late. He more than likely will not qualify for a Division I scholarship this year.

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81. "Vanderdoes could easily end up in Westwood"
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82. "ESPN Class Rankings "
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RKTEAMCOMMITS

1Florida 27
2Alabama 21
3Notre Dame 22
4Ohio State 22
5Texas A&M 32
6USC 14
7Michigan 26
8LSU 27
9Georgia 29
10Florida State 19
11Texas 15
12Clemson+116
13Virginia Tech+120
14Auburn-216
15North Carolina 18
16South Carolina 20
17Washington 21
18Oklahoma+120
19Ole Miss+322
20Vanderbilt-224

21UCLA-122
22Oregon-113
23Miami (FL) 13
24Penn State 17
25Oklahoma State 22
26Nebraska 24
27Mississippi State 23
28California 25
29Baylor 22
30West Virginia+324
31Wisconsin-117
32Virginia-120
33Tennessee-118
34Michigan State 17
35Rutgers 21
36Missouri 19
37Arizona 26
38Stanford 12
39Pittsburgh 27
40Indiana
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83. "4 star S Tahaan Goodman to UCLA"
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Jim Mora is on a roll right now..particularly on the defensive side of the ball going after athletic guys who are fast to the ball and big hitters

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1460646-tahaan-goodman-highlights-scouting-report-for-4-star-recruit

  

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84. "Priest Willis too I think"
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that's quite a haul

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85. "an interesting recruiting story...."
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after signing day there are a couple of other things I can talk about regarding this process that you guys might fight interesting...I just have to make sure I'm not violating anything by speaking about stuff.... for now I can only really speak on stuff that is already widely known..

anyway...

so yesterday I'm in a meeting with Oregon State coaches and our middle linebacker Kieshawn Bierria... he's honestly one of the better defensive players in the state coming off an incredible season... and he's likely to end up at either Oregon or Oregon State...

so I leave the meeting....and walk right into this
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/01/pepper-spray-narbonne-high-school.html

and got a face full of pepper spray... 2 girls got in a fight...one of them broke out the pepper spray in a crowded hall way....

so anyways....as the Oregon State coaches are leaving..they have this crazy look on their face and I tell them... "Welcome to LA City....come back again"...lol.

could have been worse...

  

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86. "5 Things You Should Know About Recruiting (swipe)"
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http://www.forwhomthecowbelltolls.com/lols-2/2013/1/23/3902890/five-things-that-you-should-know-about-recruiting

1. The first question that you should always ask is not how your own favorite team is doing recruiting wise, but how your rival team is doing? Do they have a better recruiting class than you? Then it's simple: they are cheating. Has anyone checked the bank account of 5-star local talent Flabu Mochapichu's mother? If you work at the local bank, you definitely should do this now (please don't, that's got to be highly illegal). If/when you do so, we guarantee there are extra funds in there, sent over by your rivals. The most important thing to know when talking recruiting is that those sorry sacks of you know what at your rival school are the dirtiest, low-downiest cheating recruiters to ever walk the face of the earth. They have bagmen who hand out $100s to recruits like candy at Halloween. Every car dealership is in their pocketbook. Commissioner of the SEC? He looks the other way, because he's getting a cut too! If I teach you nothing else here today, I hope that you at least take away from our talk this one simple truth: your rivals are cheating to get recruits. No mistaking it friend.

2. Today's recruiting world is just like the real world in that it revolves around social media. It's not enough to talk with your friends about how much you want 6-star safety Eddie VanHalenzero to come to your school, you have to go tweet it and put it on your Facebook account. Wait, what's that you say? Some of these recruits are on Twitter and Facebook as well? Well then! Why don't you just tweet to them how much you want them to come to your school. Make sure you do it daily, and encourage your friends to do the same. This is most definitely an allowed tolerated and widely practiced tactic, so make sure you are in on it too! You don't want your rival school or even Alabama or Florida or USC to have its fans tweet to him more, do you? Of course you don't. Just make sure that you throw in lots of $'s as your s's so that he knows just how much you really want him to commit to your university.

3. Did that highly coveted 7-star quarterback commit to another school over yours? Then let's talk about the proper response. It's not "congratulations", it's not "I'm glad that that young man picked the academic institution that he feels is best suited for him." What is the proper response if a highly sought after recruit picks another school over yours? "Didn't want him anyways". This should always, always be your first choice in responding to such a preposterous decision. Second choice? "He was a grade risk; he won't step foot on campus". You don't want to just let the young man enjoy his choice, you really have to demean him as a person for not choosing the school that you chose 20 years ago to attend sparingly before you knocked up that cheerleader and had to drop out to cut grass at your cousin's lawn care business. Also, when you are demeaning the young man, make sure to throw in a "he didn't have the character required to play for this university". Always a crowd pleaser, and will make you feel better too!

4. On the other side of the coin, there is the chance that that highly ranked recruit chooses your school. Congrats! This is most assuredly a happy time for you as a fan, correct? WRONG. Your first thought should be: "why isn't he rated a 5-star instead of 4?" It becomes so crystal clear at that very moment that the recruiting scouting services are all run by key alumni from your rival school, and they are manipulating the ranking system because they knew six months before the young man even did that he would choose your school. It's sad that they would do that, isn't it? But they are. They are doing it, and you won't stand for it. No, you will shout injustice from atop every message board, every Twitter handle you have commandeered. You will not rest until this wrong has been made right.

5. The last but certainly not least important thing that you need to know before following recruiting these last two weeks is that there are people on the message boards affiliated with your school that know a TON about recruiting. "But if he knows so much, then why isn't he working for one of the recruiting sites instead of hanging out here 18 hours a day?", you might say. Because he is there for your benefit, not for his own financial gain. He is placed there by the recruiting knowledge gods to lend to you his highly in-tune stream of information on everything from which recruit will commit to which one is getting handouts from Nick Saban. "But my friends tell me that he's been wrong about the last 22 recruits that he's predicted commitments for". So?! Nobody is perfect man. The important point to make here is that he knows what he's talking about. He's definitely not just guessing. He's definitely not just finding information on another board or site's article and then sharing with you as "a source told me this". That's definitely not happening. If you're going to enter this sometimes confusing world of sports information, you are going to just have to blindingly trust everything you read and hear from others. Oh, and don't stop there, make sure you spread it to everyone you know.

  

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87. "Derrick Green, the #1 RB in the nation"
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commits to Michigan.

  

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88. "Brady Hoke cries when top RB picked Michigan (swipe)"
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Brady Hoke was so happy top running back recruit picked Michigan, he started crying
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/brady-hoke-happy-top-running-back-recruit-picked-230259038--ncaaf.html

Michigan landed Rivals' top ranked running back in the 2013 class, Derrick Green. Big day for the Wolverines and coach Brady Hoke. Let's let Green describe the coach's reaction.

“He was real excited,” Green said, according to Michigan.247sports.com. “I kept him on his toes. But when I told him today he was just astound and actually started crying."

Hold on ... what?

"It was crazy, it was an unbelievable experience," Green said.

Ummm, yeah, we'd say a coach crying over a recruit saying he coming to play for him qualifies as unbelievable.

We get it though. Recruiting has to turn coaches into a nervous wreck. The Wolverines had to put in a ton of time and effort into Green, who is from Richmond, Va. and is one of four five-star backs listed by Rivals in this class, and there's no consolation prize if he would have picked Auburn or Tennessee, the two other finalists. Hoke and his staff either lands him, or they've flushed countless hours and trips and phone calls and texts down the drain that could have gone to another prospect.

Still, we don't expect a well known coach to get weepy over the whims of a teenager, even if he is 220 pounds and runs the 40-yard dash in 4.4 seconds. Hopefully these will be the last tears Hoke spills over Green while he's at Michigan.

  

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90. "props for keeping it emo...good stuff"
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>But when I
>told him today he was just astound and actually started
>crying."
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I thought Green to mich was considered a lock anyway.

  

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116. "of course"
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>I thought Green to mich was considered a lock anyway.

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134. "he wasn't?"
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who was the main competition for green?

been hearing he was headed to michigan for months...perhaps i imagined it.

  

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118. "who is this sam webb buffoon? LMAO"
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Sam Webb ‏ @ SamWebb77
@ Grahambino007 Hearing it was # Michigan's choice and the door wasn't left open for a Dawson-like return.


Sam Webb ‏ @ SamWebb77
Clearing up some growing misconceptions... Hoke did not cry over Derrick Green's commit, but was excited about it...


  

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91. "Bo Pelini not good at taking no for an answer"
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He didn't want to do it out of fear of what people might think of him, but after finally overcoming that notion, Dominic Walker decommitted Nebraska to pledge his newfound allegiance to Auburn on Friday.

The relief could be heard in his voice as he talked about finally making the decision that had been tugging at him for nearly a week.

In the end, however, Walker weighed all of the pros and cons of choosing either Nebraska or Auburn and it was Auburn that came out on top.

"There's more opportunity for my family to see me play because it's closer to home and there's a better chance for me to go in and play right away, which is what I was looking for all along," Walker said Friday night after making the announcement that he would be joining teammate and fellow wide receiver Tony Stevens as newly committed Tigers. "Plus, I get to play another four years with my teammate Tony and that's great ... everything is just great."

He had said the same thing about Nebraska two months ago after an official visit to Lincoln. That's when he decommitted from a Vanderbilt pledge. He finally committed to Nebraska on Dec. 30, and the overwhelming support he'd seen from Nebraska fans seemed have him locked in to Big Red Nation.

It was hard for Walker to make that call to Nebraska on Friday, but he knew he had to do it. He said he didn't handle the Vanderbilt situation as well as he could have back when he decommitted from the Commodores in October and he wanted to make sure and do the right thing this time.

Even his mom was afraid for him when he made the call to head coach Bo Pelini and his staff on Friday.

"It was a very tough decision. They were . They were very mad. But I thought I had to call them like a real man shoould," Walker said. "But yeah, they were mad. Coach Pelini said, 'Best of luck, you're going to need it.' "

Wide receivers coach Rich Fisher also was in on the call.

"Coach Fisher said, 'I can’t believe you,' " Walker said. "It was really awkward."

He had prepared himself for the conversation but nothing really got him ready to face the music. But he did what he felt he had to do.

"At first I was scared to decommit because of what people might think about me since I decommitted from Vandy and then I'd be decommitting from Nebraska," Walker said. "But I just gotta do what I gotta do and not worry about what people have to say. It's my future."

Indeed it is and his future will be spent in Auburn, Ala., for the next four seasons, most likely.

Walker said Stevens committing to Auburn last week did not have much to do with his choice to join the Tigers. He and Stevens both took official visits to Auburn last weekend.

"Not really. I just felt I had to do what’s best for me," Walker said. "He made his decision, but it didn’t really affect my decision. In the end, it might have affected it a little bit, but overall not really."

Being six hours away from Orlando seems to be the most important factor in the equation, as well as a relentless push from new Auburn co-offensive coordinator Dameyune Craig. The former Auburn quarterback was hired away from Florida State last month by new Auburn head coach Gus Malzahn.

"He said me and Tony can be just like we were in high school. ... Tony on one side and me on the other. We're two different types of receivers, so he said we won't be competing against each other," Walker said. "Coach Craig, they let him kind of go out and recruit his guys since he knows Florida and he really hand picked us. He saw the receivers he wanted to go out and get and he recruited us hard.

"I've gotten to know him real well these past few weeks. We've been talking like three or four times every day. I like how he talks about things and he has a good way of phrasing stuff. He came to my house for the in-home visit and let my mom know what things would be like for me at Auburn and she fell in love with his words, too."

Walker and Stevens were a formidable duo at Evans the past two seasons, during which the Trojans won two straight Class 7A district titles and were 19-5. Stevens was the go-to target and the deep threat, while Walker did most of the dirty work. Over the course of their junior and senior seasons, the pair combined for 141 catches, 2,600 yards and 36 touchdowns

Stevens had 43 catches for 803 yards and 14 touchdowns this past season, and as a junior he had 37 catches for 781 yards and 10 touchdowns, averaging almost 20 yards per catch over the two seasons.

Walker, who got off to a slow start this past season, which was somewhat due to some sloppy conditions in a rainy September and the Trojans ran the ball a lot. He had 25 catches for 398 yards as a senior, and as a junior he caught 36 balls for 618 yards and six touchdowns. He averaged 16 yards per catch over two seasons.

Chris Hays is the Sentinel's recruiting coverage coordinator and can be reached at chays@tribune.com. Follow us on Twitter at @Os_Recruiting and Facebook at Orlando Sentinel Recruiting and now on Pinterest at Orlando Recruiting.

  

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92. "this is a horseshit article"
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it's just piling on at this point, for the full story it is here....

http://sports.omaha.com/2013/01/27/recruiting-reviewing-the-dominic-walker-drama/

Add Dominic Walker to the names of recruits who spurned Nebraska and aren’t soon likely to be forgotten by Husker fans.

Walker was a commit for the Huskers’ 2013 recruiting class for about one month. He had decommitted from Vanderbilt shortly after taking an official visit to NU, and then picked Nebraska over Florida State in late December. He looked to be on board…until he took a late official visit to Auburn.

Over the last week on Twitter, Walker chewed on this decision in a variety of ways, including pitting NU and AU against each other in a video game. He eventually picked the Tigers, and relayed to the Orlando Sentinel that Husker coaches weren’t happy when he delivered the news. From the story:

It was hard for Walker to make that call to Nebraska on Friday, but he knew he had to do it. He said he didn’t handle the Vanderbilt situation as well as he could have back when he decommitted from the Commodores in October and he wanted to make sure and do the right thing this time.

Even his mom was afraid for him when he made the call to head coach Bo Pelini and his staff on Friday.

“It was a very tough decision. They were . They were very mad. But I thought I had to call them like a real man should,” Walker said. “But yeah, they were mad. Coach Pelini said, ‘Best of luck, you’re going to need it.’ “

Wide receivers coach Rich Fisher also was in on the call.

“Coach Fisher said, ‘I can’t believe you,’ ” Walker said. “It was really awkward.”

This story got picked up by several national sports Web sites and will undoubtedly be a topic of conversation on Monday’s talk shows.

Pelini and Co. can’t say anything about Walker. If they could, they might have a decent defense for their displeasure. Let’s look quickly at some of the statements Walker made in the week before his decision.

On. Jan. 20, he tells Auburn’s Rivals’ site that his visit went better than he thought it would and that he was 75 percent sure he’d play with high school teammate Tony Stevens for the Tigers.

On Jan. 21, Walker tells Huskers Illustrated in the afternoon that Fisher and offensive coordinator Tim Beck were “mad” and “didn’t understand” why Walker had visited Auburn and said he was going to switch. Later that night, he told HI that Pelini and Fisher weren’t mad during their in-home visit.

“They were just discussing things and we were going over things,” he said. “We went over things that Nebraska can offer that maybe Auburn can’t.”

Meanwhile Walker tells Husker Online that the visit is a smashing success and he’s “100 percent committed” to NU. Walker explains how Nebraska coaches compared and contrasted the two schools.

“They talked about their past history and how they’ve always been winning at least nine or ten games every year and they are just missing a few pieces,” Walker told HO. “Auburn is kind of a rebuilding program right now and Nebraska already has everything, they are just building on what they have.”

On Jan. 23, he tells the Auburn Rivals site that, after the Tigers’ in-home visit, he’s back to 50/50, and part of it has to do with the negative recruiting Nebraska apparently employed two days before.

“They were trying to bring up the bad things about why I shouldn’t go to Auburn,” Walker said. “They were trying to tell me the bad things — trying to persuade me why I should go to their school. But I didn’t understand that. They can say anything, but it’s been two or three years since Cam Newton and nothing has happened.”

Walker’s intimating that Pelini and Fisher suggested Auburn could be in NCAA trouble. And the Tigers could – although not from the Cam Newton drama from 2010. In late 2012, the NCAA started investigating Auburn and two of its assistant coaches. From the story:

“Sources told Yahoo! Sports in September that the NCAA has been investigating the recruitment of 2012 Auburn signee Jovon Robinson, whose Memphis Wooddale High School academic transcript was found to be forged and was subsequently declared ineligible in August to play this year at the school. The Memphis Commercial Appeal reported in August that a guidance counselor at Wooddale admitted creating a fraudulent transcript and resigned.

Robinson declined comment to Yahoo! Sports through a family member in September. He is not enrolled at Auburn this semester.

In addition to the academic issues involving Robinson, sources told Yahoo! Sports the NCAA has investigated whether a Wooddale P.E. teacher, Rhonda Wilkinson, provided impermissible benefits to the player during his recruitment, including transportation to the Auburn campus on at least one occasion. Wilkinson is an Auburn graduate and fan – her vehicle and home are extensively decorated with Auburn memorabilia.”

According to Walker, new Auburn assistant/former Tiger QB Dameyune Craig – who recruited Walker at Florida State – gave the prospect what Auburn’s Rivals’ site calls “the honest answer.”

“Coach Craig was real honest, he said if ‘I knew Auburn wasn’t anything but a clean, outstanding program, I wouldn’t have taken this job,’” Walker said.

Walker continued: “He has a great way with words and all he did was preach the positive about Auburn, he didn’t say anything negative about Nebraska.”

But some Auburn coach did. How do we know this? Because Walker told ESPN so after he made his decision on Jan. 25.

“They were asking me why I would leave the southeast, where the weather is nice, to go somewhere where it’s so cold,” Walker said. “And then they told me how far it would be for my family to drive to the games, and I shouldn’t subject them to driving so far on those icy roads when I could play in the SEC and be much closer to home.”

Icy roads…yes, that’s not negative at all.

What’s misguided about the backlash toward Pelini is this: He’s been criticized – rightly, at times – for not being pushy enough in recruiting. He gives prospects ample to room to commit or not commit. Rarely does a player leave his official visit having made a pledge on the spot, and that’s because Pelini often asks the kids to sit on it and be sure.

Walker’s one time to make a choice without losing a year to transferring is right now. If a kid wants to decommit several times, he can, and there isn’t much a coaching staff can do, other than apply guilt, to stop him. But when Walker accuses Nebraska of stabbing Auburn in the back — only to conveniently forget the ol “icy roads” tactic until after he’d flipped his commitment — shows the kid was sending significant mixed signals after his official visit to Auburn, and that he ultimately wasted a full month of Nebraska’s time.

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94. "told you nobody likes that asshole n/m"
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96. "told you you don't have a clue on what you are talking about"
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but that's never stopped your ignorance before

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97. "i honestly dont talk much about the programs i root for"
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BECAUSE WE ARE WHO WE THOUGHT WE WERE!! i know *how good* Arkansas and ASU are
do i talk about them as being top echelon programs?! (which you do time and time again).

i know you dont like to hear it but somebody has to remind you.

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99. "i dont get it...are we supposed to feel bad for nebraska?"
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a southern school pointed out the weather issue...big deal.

middle aged coaches getting into a PR war with a 17/18 year old recruit...coaches are ALWAYS gonna lose that battle.

  

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101. "3rd party sources and it reads like a Pelini anger pile-on"
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the guy who wrote that article had an agenda in mind

I don't fault the recruit, he decom'd from Vandy to NU before leaving for Auburn and quite frankly he will likely play earlier there because NU is loaded at WR, best I can remember since I was a child.

IMO it's the same crap as when the TV cameras are all panned to Pelini hoping for a blowup while ignoring Brian Kelly screaming at his QB and Saban getting the face of a player after making a mistake.

Just be consistent.

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103. "man i never knew of this 'pelini is an asshole' conspiracy "
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i thought it was because he was genuinely an asshole

if u want the 'mad genius' label like saban then you better win as many games as he does. but until then you're just an asshole.

  

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93. "Maybe Firebrand was right"
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NU just lost a top safety recruit from Youngstown, OH to Kentucky because Mark Stoops was selling the "SEC brand name" instead of the school.

Meanwhile that trash program hasn't won anything of significance since the 1950's, will always be second fiddle to the top flight basketball program, and will be at its best FOURTH IN THE DIVISION behind UF, UGA, and USC.

Yes I'm mad, I'm tired of that smoke and mirrors rhetoric, it matters little what conference you are in if you have zero chance of winning. UK football is a cellar dwellar, always will be.

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95. "lol. Braska done the same as Kentucky in football lately, namely nothing"
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1990s are a long time away pal

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98. "winning 9+ games a year, 5 years running isn't bad"
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a lot better than the shit fest in Fayetteville and Lexington can hope to claim

although you might not know about that, Arkansas has never won anything of substance so your standards might be lower

Kentucky is Indiana with the SEC brand name

again, you are just spouting off snark with no merit

EDITED to 9 games, you are correct, still there are only 6 or 7 programs that can claim that, Oregon, Boise State, and LSU come to mind

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100. "word?!"
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http://www.mcubed.net/ncaaf/teams/ne.shtml

dont lie to kick it! from 2002-2012 you've won 10 games during the season 4 times.

http://www.mcubed.net/ncaaf/teams/ark.shtml

i mean, is there REALLY A BIG DIFFERENCE HERE?! yet, im not the one acting as if my program is the goddamn shiniest diamond in the mineshaft am i?

Fayeteville is actually in pretty good shape at the moment. Bret B has been recruiting decently.

it just goes back to me thinking Pelini is an asshole and his players, from what i saw in body language on the sidelines in the games i watched, seem to not enjoy his company. i understand you have to be an asshole coach but this dude.... nope.

2013 season, with a 200% more difficult schedule, the Hogs will have a better record. you can believe that.

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102. "I edited and changed it"
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thanks for the correction, it's 9

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104. "ha"
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look, man. you know im just trolling. but you have been PRETTY FUCKING RUDE regarding Arkansas, their place in the SEC, and just hating on the SEC in general.

combine that with my long time hatred for all things Big10, i enjoy the shit talking.

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105. "you have been equally grandstanding and condescending about Bo"
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I'm sorry I hate middling programs piggy-backing off a conference that did not have any bearing on the success at the top except for providing scheduling fodder, and that is Kentucky and a few others.

What I saw in the bowl season is Saban above everyone else and a whole lot of SEC programs that aren't any better than their opponents this year.

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145. "pun intended?"
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>I'm sorry I hate middling programs piggy-backing off a
>conference

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148. "http://gifs.gifbin.com/g64795857g6.gif"
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106. "Tyler Boyd is about to de-commit from Pitt for WVU I can feel it"
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Took a visit to WVU today despite already picking Pitt, then sent a tweet about having a big decision to make.

Retweeted a bunch of tweets from WVU fans, and one that said, if Tyler Boyd goes to WVU it's because he is doing what is best for him, not for you.

Plus, let's face it Pitt never gets a break.

  

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107. "Word is he might get down to Knoxville this weekend"
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Just sayin'

  

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108. "Pitt's recent history leave me no doubt he is not coming here anymore"
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109. "I know the feeling"
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110. "Vonn Bell will be one to watch, down to Alabama, the Vols and us"
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112. "I'm sure we'll finish second with him just like everyone else"
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We've got to be leading the world in finishing in second place with big time recruits. We're about to finish second with Derrick Green, Marquez North, Johnathon Ford, Vonn Bell, Bellamy, and Carl Lawson. ANY of those guys would start from day one and potentially be program changers, but we just can't ever get over the hump.

I like Butch Jones, though. I think he'll have us back eventually.

  

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113. "Per Rivals Bama guy..."
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"Vonn Bell, five-star safety, Ridgeland High School (Rossville, Ga.): The five-star safety traveled to Knoxville this weekend where he received a lot love not only from the coaching staff, but also the fans during the UT-Bama basketball game. I'll give the edge to UT. The numbers are very tight at Alabama right now. I think the staff may feel pretty confident in another defensive back."

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114. "I'd bet money he's going to Bama"
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We just don't land guys like this anymore.

  

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127. "OSU seems squarely in the mix here"
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UT had a lot of ground to cover with the new coaching staff

  

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186. "NOOOO"
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111. "Top out-of-state recruiting teams Ranking the 10 CFB schools with best o..."
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http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8887427/alabama-crimson-tide-oklahoma-sooners-teams-strongest-state-recrutiing-pipelines-college-football

To win a BCS title, programs have to consistently sign blue-chip talent. Sure, player development and coaching heavily factor into success, but without a roster full of former top-ranked recruits, Alabama just doesn't win three of the past four national championships. It's that simple.

The difficulty lies in landing those preps, especially when they don't reside right in a school's backyard. Take the Tide. From 2008-2012, Nick Saban signed 48 ESPN 150 recruits, just behind Florida (52) and Texas (51) during that time frame. But less than half of them (20) were from Alabama, compared to the Gators' 33 from Florida and the Longhorns' 45 from Texas. In fact, Saban pilfered from 12 different states for the other 28. To put it another way: Without thriving out-of-state pipelines, Eddie Lacy, Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix and Amari Cooper, to name a few, wouldn't have put on a Crimson Tide jersey.

So which programs, besides the Tide, can lay claim to the strongest out-of-state pipelines over the past five years? We narrowed the field to teams that signed at least five total ESPN 150 recruits from 2008-12 (one per year). That gave us a solid sample size of 34 schools. From that sample, there were 10 programs that signed at least five ESPN 150 recruits out of a single state besides their own. Finally, we ranked them based on total recruits from that state, and then determined whether the pipeline remains plentiful (or is drying up) as signing day 2013 approaches.

(Note: It's worth mentioning that while Michigan only signed four ESPN 150 recruits from the state of Ohio over the past five years, Brady Hoke has six ESPN 300 commits this year. Washington also has five ESPN 300 commits from California, compared to two over the past five years.)


1. Oklahoma Sooners
Out-of-state pipeline: Texas (14 ESPN 150 recruits from 2008-12)
STATUS: FLOWING (four ESPN 300 recruits committed for 2013; three four-star recruits in 2012; five ESPN 150 recruits in 2011)

The pipeline might be short, but when you consider all the options Texas kids have in-state, what Bob Stoops has been able to accomplish over the past five years is staggering. The Sooners signed more ESPN 150 recruits from the Lone Star State than Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor and Houston combined, as well as out-recruiting Texas A&M (12). Although OU was shut out in the ESPN 150 last year, three four-star recruits from Texas signed, and this year Stoops secured a verbal from Texas' No. 2 prospect, running back Keith Ford (Cypress, Texas).


2. Auburn Tigers
Out-of-state pipeline: Georgia (eight)
STATUS: DRYING UP (one ESPN 150 recruit committed for 2013; two ESPN 150 recruits in 2012; three ESPN 150 recruits in 2011)

On average, the majority of ESPN 150 recruits hail from three states: Florida, Texas and California. But the Peach State comes in a close fourth, and to former coach Gene Chizik's credit, he not only went into Florida and landed five recruits, but grabbed more out of Georgia than any other program other than UGA from 2008-12. (The Tigers top No. 3 Clemson because a higher percentage of their total ESPN 150 recruits were from Georgia.) That being said, Auburn fans are in wait-and-see mode with new head man and former O-coordinator Guz Malzahn. While he does have a verbal from the nation's No. 2 prospect, defensive end Carl Lawson (Alpharetta, Ga.), there's a chance that changes by Feb. 6. Two juco commits, defensive tackle Ben Bradley and athlete Nick Marshall, call Georgia home but don't necessarily indicate a continued trend.


3. Clemson Tigers
Out-of-state pipeline: Florida (eight)
STATUS: DRYING UP (zero ESPN 300 recruits committed for 2013; one ESPN 150 recruit in 2012; three ESPN 150 recruits in 2011)

In 2008, Dabo Swinney went into the Sunshine State and signed Jamie Harper and Kyle Parker. Three years later, he landed Tony Steward and Sammy Watkins. So maybe we should save judgment for 2014, because Clemson has struck out with every ESPN 300 recruit from Florida in 2013. Tight end Jordan Leggett (Navarre, Fla.) and athlete Jayron Kearse (Fort Myers, Fla.) are four-star recruits but have nowhere near the hype of Watkins & Co. coming out of high school.


4. Ohio State Buckeyes
Out-of-state pipeline: Florida (seven)
STATUS: FLOWING (one ESPN 150 recruit committed for 2013; one four-star recruit in 2012; one ESPN 150 recruit in 2011)

Funny that Urban Meyer, the man who will likely make OSU a desired destination in the Southeast, had nothing to do with these seven recruits over the past five years. But after blanking in Florida last year, Meyer has the Buckeyes back on track with a verbal from ESPN 150 defensive tackle Joey Bosa (Fort Lauderdale, Fla.). (Ohio State is ranked ahead of Alabama because a higher number of its ESPN 150 recruits were from Florida.) Once Meyer is out from under sanctions, we assume he'll attract many more recruits from his former stomping grounds.


5. Alabama Crimson Tide
Out-of-state pipeline: Florida (seven)
STATUS: FLOWING (one ESPN 150 recruit committed for 2013; three ESPN 150 recruits in 2012; two ESPN 150 recruits in 2011)

As we mentioned in the introduction, Saban has no problem going into almost any state and convincing a top recruit to play for Alabama. He also signed seven ESPN 150 prospects from Georgia over the past five years, but we gave the nod to Florida because the Tide's No. 1 recruit in 2013, athlete Derrick Henry (Yulee, Fla.), is from there. Since 2008, Alabama has signed Trent Richardson, Clinton-Dix, Chris Black and Cooper from Florida.


6. Tennessee Volunteers
Out-of-state pipeline: Florida (6)
STATUS: DRYING UP (zero ESPN 300 recruits committed for 2013; two ESPN 150 recruits in 2012; three ESPN 150 recruits in 2011)

Strictly by the numbers, we have to rank the Vols this high. (Their six Florida signees from 2008-12 is a higher percentage of their total ESPN 150 recruits than Florida State and USC.) But Tennessee better hope new head coach Butch Jones can put the program back on the recruiting map -- in Florida or any other state across the Southeast. The Vols have just one ESPN 300 commit for 2013 (quarterback Riley Ferguson of Matthews, N.C.), which is their lowest total since 2008. Outside linebacker Corey Vereen (Winter Garden, Fla.) is the only sign of upper-tier talent from the Sunshine State.


7. Florida State Seminoles
Out-of-state pipeline: Georgia (six)
STATUS: DRYING UP (one ESPN 300 recruit committed for 2013; one ESPN 150 recruit in 2012; one ESPN 150 recruit in 2011)

The Seminoles have been consistent in Georgia (Greg Reid being the biggest get in 2009), but have too much to mine in Florida to make their living elsewhere. Jimbo Fisher's only Peach State commit for 2013, defensive end Davin Bellamy (Chamblee, Ga.), was just two spots away from falling outside the ESPN 300. (And he could still flip his commitment.)


8. USC Trojans
Out-of-state pipeline: Florida (six)
STATUS: FLOWING (one ESPN 150 recruit committed for 2013; two ESPN 150 recruits in 2012; one ESPN 150 recruit in 2011)

The fact that the Trojans leave California at all is rather surprising, but even more impressive is their ability to go across the country and land the likes of Nickell Robey and Leonard Williams. This year's coast-to-coast haul is safety Leon McQuay III (Seffner, Fla.). Like Meyer, Lane Kiffin should see an uptick in this talent-rich state once his scholarship reductions are lifted.


9. Oregon Ducks
Out-of-state pipeline: California (five)
STATUS: FLOWING (one ESPN 300 recruit committed for 2013; two ESPN 150 recruits in 2012; two ESPN 150 recruits in 2011)

With Chip Kelly gone, it will be interesting to see how California kids who are worthy of USC, UCLA and Stanford offers react to new head coach and former O-coordinator Mark Helfrich. But you can't argue with the likes of DeAnthony Thomas, Devon Blackmon and Arik Armstead over the past two years alone. This year, wide receiver Tyree Robinson (San Diego) is the lone ESPN 300 recruit from the Golden State, but fellow receiver Darren Carrington (San Diego) and athlete Tyrell Robinson (San Diego) are both four-star prospects.


10. LSU Tigers
Out-of-state pipeline: Texas (five)
STATUS: DRYING UP (zero ESPN 300 recruits committed for 2013; zero ESPN 150 recruits in 2012; zero ESPN 150 recruits in 2011)

For the first time since 2008, LSU doesn't have a single commit, no matter the ranking, from Texas. Texas A&M's move to the SEC has certainly affected the Tigers, who used to sell the opportunity to play in the nation's premier conference and remain closer to home. Les Miles couldn't convince ESPN 150 recruits, wide receiver Ricky Seals-Jones (Sealy, Texas) or defensive tackle Justin Manning (Dallas), to shun LSU's new SEC West rival.
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115. "UCLA shows Asiantii Woulard the town (swipe)"
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According to Jack Wang of the DN today...

Four-star quarterback Asiantii Woulard visited UCLA this weekend. Among the things that impressed him: seeing P. Diddy at the W Hotel, talking to Maurice Jones-Drew and catching sight of the Playboy Mansion.

He won't officially decide until signing day Feb. 6, but that didn't stop ESPN analyst Trent Dilfer from linking him to Westwood.

Woulard's father said recently that the dual-threat quarterback--rated No. 4 in the country by Rivals and No. 1 by ESPN -- has zeroed in on UCLA and Clemson as his top two choices. The latter was one of the earliest to chase the Winter Park, Fla., prospect.

Woulard, 6-foot-3 and 205 pounds, only played quarterback his junior and senior years, but has significant upside. He won MVP at the Elite 11 quarterback competition last summer when he was still considered a South Florida commit.

  

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126. "Clemson backs out of Woulard recruiting......."
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could be a sign he's headed to Westwood...

  

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175. "i knew that south fla commit wouldnt hold up he is gonna be westwood"
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120. "no.3 rated MLB Isaac Savaiinaea .... word is it's UCLA..."
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this would be a huge get for Mora ...

UCLA is wrecking shop out here....

  

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121. "Helfrich is way more aggressive than Chip"
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and, it would seem, a bit less picky as well.

Offers flying out to kids we had already passed on earlier in the process, and he's zipping all over the place.

I expect us to flip both Johnny Ragin and Cameron Hunt (admittedly we were on Hunt before CK's departure) from Cal, and we've jumped into the race for GA DE Davin Bellamy who just dc'd from FSU and is visiting this weekend.

  

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122. "I really wish Johnny Ragin committed to Louisiana Lafayette"
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That way he could be Johnny Ragin, Ragin Cajun

  

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123. "I'm a big fan of Cameron Hunt...after watching him up close"
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after him watching him basiclly maul our kids for 3 quarters when Narbonne played Corona Cenntenial..

the dude is big...huge....and he has a nasty streak to him too...

now for most of the night he was blocking a DE who he outweight by about 100 pounds....

when we made an adjustment and moved Paulo Lepua to DE ....he worked Cameron Hunt..and actually Hunt had to go to the hospital after the game..


but he's one heck of an OT...

  

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124. "LB/S Kieshawn Bierria visiting Washington this weekend..."
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since Chip left Oregon..... their LB coach has not visited Key.... not sure if that means they are out of the running.....

but if they are..that's going to leave it down to Oregon State and Washington....

if that's the case Wshington has a shot because the last 3 guys who visited UW from this school all decided to go there...and Key's teammate Troy Williams has already started school there..

I know most who know about us would rank Troy Williams and Paulo Lepua..the City Offensive and Defensive players of the year as our top prospects.... but I keep telling coaches and others that the guy with the biggest upside for the next level is Keishawn Bierria.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dGMmWRJhwA

  

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125. "word on the street for Eddie Vanderdoes........it's UCLA..."
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Jim Mora taking it right to Kiffin's chest like what..

  

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128. "Marquez North to Vols. WOW. Really didn't expect that."
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Butch Jones' first marquee recruit. Looking like we're gonna get Vonn Bell, too. We could have a crazy finish after being completely dead in the water.

  

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135. "based on what?"
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>Looking like we're gonna
>get Vonn Bell, too.

  

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138. "Wide Receiver U...forever"
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129. "Two days left.."
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Duck commit 4* RB Dontre Wilson of DeSoto, TX to announce tonight...he's looked @ Texas and TOSU since Chip left but I have a feeling he stays with the Ducks.



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130. "I'm pretty sure he's yours"
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sucks, but it will give us more options for 2014 and the way the roster is set up right now he'd most likely have to wait a bit to play.

/silverlinings

  

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139. "Dontre Wilson flips to OSU"
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huge get. wilson along with elliot and marshall should plug a major void in the playmaker dept. other than braxton OSU doesn't have a breakaway make u miss type player.

and nabbing 3 top recruits out of the state of texas is pretty unreal...

  

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161. "HUGE get for the Buckeyes. Youngblood is a player w/ SPEED"
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supporting a friend: www.clutchmagazine.com ...at a local newsstand near you, soon!
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140. "Reuben Foster to 'bama.....again......for now"
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despite ugly auburn tattoo. smh.

---
Dynasty -
noun, plural dy�nas�ties.
1. a sequence of rulers from the same family, stock, or group; Roll Tide.

Alabama Crimson Tide: 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2020 Nat’l Champ

  

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143. "another teenaged mutant at bama...exactly what the world needs"
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smh

  

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144. "Yeah, dude's soph highlights are the most impressive I've seen from a "
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HS defensive player. Reminds me of Derrick Thomas except at
the MLB.

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141. "down to the wire...espn predicting for UCLA"
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Isaac Savaiinaea
Honolulu/Punahou
ESPN 300 RANK: 120
POS: ILB
DECISION DATE: TBD
UCLA

Savaiinaea had a great relationship with Brian Polian when he was an assistant at Texas A&M, but now that Polian has taken the head-coaching job at Nevada, UCLA seems to be the logical choice for Savaiinaea.

Asiantii Woulard
Winter Park, Fla./Winter Park
ESPN 300 RANK: 143
POS: QB/DT
DECISION DATE: Feb. 6
UCLA


Kentucky could make a late play and snag Woulard but all signs are pointing to Westwood at this point.


Eddie Vanderdoes
Auburn, Calif./Placer
ESPN 300 RANK: 10
POS: DT
DECISION DATE: Feb. 6
UCLA

Alabama and Notre Dame are still very much in play for Vanderdoes, but his connection to UCLA, especially defensive line coach Angus McClure, is strong enough for the Bruins to land the big defensive tackle.

Kylie Fitts
Redlands, Calif./Redlands East Valley
ESPN 300 RANK: 85
POS: DE
DECISION DATE: Feb. 6
UCLA

Fitts decommitted from USC on Jan. 8 because there were limited early enrollment spots, even though he was previously one of the Trojans' biggest advocates. If he still wants to enroll early, UCLA and Washington are his best bets. The Bruins get the nod here because it is close to home and Fitts' sister is a UCLA student.

  

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142. "Yo! Vanderdoes! That's the prize catch. Hope we can poach him. "
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Dude has potential to really beast with the proper s & c program
and work on his technique.

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147. "i laughed at Position: QB/DT ... "
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>Asiantii Woulard
>Winter Park, Fla./Winter Park
>ESPN 300 RANK: 143
>POS: QB/DT
>DECISION DATE: Feb. 6
>UCLA
>

just a hilarious dynamic to me. at the D1 level you can choose to play one or the other? hope its a typo or somethin.

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146. "PRAISE BE TO THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(Alex Collins ..."
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we havent had a talent like this since the three headed monster of DMac, Felix, and Hillis were playing.

great snag for Bret B, as he had been pretty underwhelming recruiting so far (cant blame him). i was impressed with the 4 star signing of OL, Dan Skipper changed from Tenn to Ark. Reeve Koehler is Hawaiian and a 4 star rated.

ive read a bit about some of the signees and and not too worried that this class cant make this team better next year.

Alex Collins signing is a game changer and a half tho. woooooo pig soooieeee

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149. "Oregon pre-signing day"
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Losing Wilson to Urban stings, but Helfrich still has a chance to close the period on an up-note, in spite of being left in a poor position with the sudden departure of Chip Kelly.

The Ducks received some positive news in the build-up to Wilson's announcement last evening, when talented San Diego (Horizon) wide receiver Darren Carrington reaffirmed his pledge to the program. Carrington had been mulling other possibilities in the wake of Chip Kelly's move to Philadelphia, but ultimately decided to move forward with his plan to make Eugene his new home, citing his recently deceased uncle and the wish he had of seeing his nephew in Oregon uniforms on Saturdays in the fall as significant source of inspiration.

Though Cal commit Johnny Ragin, a native Oregonian, did not decide to flip to Helfrich's squad, the pending commitment of offensive linemen Cameron Hunt figures to erase any ill feelings Duck fans may have about failing to convert on Ragin's long-standing in-state allegiances. Cal affiliate writers have been calling Hunt to Oregon for a few days now, and Oregon sources have been talking up the same point for an even longer period of time.

With Wilson and Carrington spoken for, Oregon is hoping that the talented and versatile Robinson twins, the last of the Ducks' suddenly-looking-around "commitments" will reaffirm some time today - this in spite of a very strong push from Steve Sarkisian and the bitter rival Washington Huskies. The Robinsons tripped to Seattle just this past weekend, and Washington made a very big impression according to numerous sources. The future of the talented athletes should be decided very soon, and Oregon would love to head into signing day knowing that Wilson was the only Chip Kelly commitment to decide to leave the flock.

Lastly Oregon is hoping for some of its other uncommitted targets to come around at the last minute. Players like USC commitment and Aggie target Torrodney Prevot (TX) could put Helfrich and Co. in much better standing in a hurry, as could recently tripped FSU decommit Davin Bellamy (GA) and Zach Cunningham (AL) who is set to pick between Vanderbilt and the Ducks, with Auburn having dropped out of the race.

  

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150. "Losing Hunt hurts but keeping Ragin is nice"
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Although Cal probably needed Hunt more than Ragin as we are pretty stacked at LB and need OL help badly.

Still, even without Hunt we are signing 5 OL with the best and biggest being OL Cochran.

I'm hoping Cal can get Enewally and Moore to commit. Enewally has been all over the map with his recruitment and supposedly Moore might have academic issues.

I also would have liked to grab one more RB in this years class but that's not likey to happen.

  

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151. "So Narbonne High School's signing day ceremony count:"
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We end up with 6 total guys..... 5 D-1 and 1 D-2....

not bad...I was hoping for 9 we could have got there..but fell just short..

either way it's our largest class in a long long time and I believe we should end up with more guys than anyone in the area....including your Poly and Serra...which says a lot being that we're a regular public high school...

we'll be on fox sports live at 730 am out here.

  

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152. "USC is HURRRRTIN"
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With Ramsey out the hits keep coming.

They might sign 11 players at this point. crazy shit.

  

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153. "Yeah that class is falling apart fast"
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154. "and there goes hatcher... "
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155. "Still in serious danger of losing Falah and Prevot too... wow"
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156. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfslY_AvhLw"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfslY_AvhLw

  

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157. "Rome is burning.....nm"
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158. "What a fuckup..."
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CLK could have a top five class if he just concentrated on the state of CA while snagging a few OOS kids. Instead, he has to make a national splash trying to sign 15 5 stars and ends up alienating his actual recruiting base. He gets way too caught up in rankings instead of just filling needs with 4/5 star talent.

Look at the size of his current commitments. Only three are over 250 lbs and and he is on the verge of losing at least one of them. The rest of them don't even come close to that size. Let me know how that works out for you.

Bottom line: he's a fucking idiot. I don't know if he has an enormous ego, suicidal level self-esteem, or some fucked up mixture of both. He completely screwed UTK, but it's not unrealistic to think it would be in worse shape if he stuck around.

  

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159. "id have preferred if SC kept their commits"
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less chance of an imminent kiffin firing and if OSU isn't getting any of those recruits id rather them waste away at SC where they'll never ever impact the outcome of a BCS game.

  

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160. "interesting tweet from Chad Bumphis giving advice to recruits:"
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https://twitter.com/ImSo_BalisMade1/status/298801698359615488

"With NSD near, recruits listen. DON'T go with the money! After its gone ur stuck at a place you probably don't even like for 3-5 years!"

so is he saying, don't go to Alabama?

... DONT GO TO ALABAMA!

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162. "probably Hugh Freeze "
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and the money train in Oxford

<-Fear Ameer

  

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164. "He's gotta be cheating. I know for a fact he cheated as a HS coach"
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253. "well he did work with Orgeron and he has a Kiffin on staff"
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so.....

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163. "Kylie Fitts to UCLA"
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Sorry Lane...

https://twitter.com/BrandonHuffman/status/298989106279612419

Brandon Huffman
‏@BrandonHuffman
Redlands (Calif.) East Valley defensive end Kylie Fitts has committed to UCLA...

However, I disagree with the kid on this:

https://twitter.com/K_Fitts93/status/298913275435950080

Kylie Fitts
‏@K_Fitts93
Taco Bell>> Del taco

  

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165. "Still can't believe MICHIGAN got the best player,"
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unfuckingbelievable.


Unless he gets hurt or starts smoking crack DERRICK GREEN is next....got damn.



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166. "its a lot more believable than these dudes heading to ole miss"
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and green isn't the #1 player in the nation

  

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190. "Dudes lil bro went to Ole Miss, which lands the #1 guy which lands"
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other TOP TIER guys....pretty realistic.



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192. "diche didn't pick till this morning"
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tough to say that caused such a domino effect...especially on kids that committed before today like treadwell

  

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202. "I ain't know they got EVERYBODY, WTF!"
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167. "FSU, as usual, racking up on signing day..."
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They probably close better than any other program historically.

  

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168. "James Clark is a Buckeye!"
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SIX unofficial visits to Gainesville....and Urban snatches him out of the Sunshine State.


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170. "Urban will never land SEC kids....especially kids out of Florida"
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lolz at ternary star and tha truth

  

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181. "keep believing that's what i said"
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OSU will never have ENOUGH kids from the south.

SEC beats your ass because of depth.

y'all crow about two or three 5-star kids from Florida every year and stay getting embarrassed in any out-of-conference games that matter.

holler at me when 80-90% of your squad grew up on cheese grits.

  

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183. "no, ill crow about landing the #1 class"
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full of kids from everywhere with offers from everywhere...

and nice attempt at back tracking everybody know what your ignorant ass said, lol...

better luck next year vs the big east.

  

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191. "OSU is gonna get players, they got Meyer...."
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That program is on the rise, now ay around it, that coach is a winner.



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193. "Lol, just stop dude.The search function is a click away."
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"you don't recruit the south, you don't win. period. and Urbs just made it a whole lot harder on himself to get quality players out of that region"

"the only thing that really matters is that OSU will never get the amount of southern athletes they need to compete with programs like Bama and LSU. never."





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194. "where's the quote about gold fronts?"
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258. "so you actually are retarded?"
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>"you don't recruit the south, you don't win. period. and Urbs
>just made it a whole lot harder on himself to get quality
>players out of that region"
>
>"the only thing that really matters is that OSU will never get
>the amount of southern athletes they need to compete with
>programs like Bama and LSU. never."
>


help me understand how any of that contradicts what I just posted. OSU will never get the depth they need to be anything but an SEC doormat,.

but congratulations in advance on your Big 10 championships. I really mean that. Y'all actually care about that, right?

  

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262. "Still digging huh?"
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>help me understand how any of that contradicts what I just
>posted. OSU will never get the depth they need to be anything
>but an SEC doormat,.
>
>but congratulations in advance on your Big 10 championships.
>I really mean that. Y'all actually care about that, right?

"Ohio State secured commitments in the states of Florida, California, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, New Jersey and Indiana. Only 10 of the 24 signees are from Ohio, with 14 coming from outside the state borders."


and this is just year one.


>but congratulations in advance on your Big 10 championships.
>I really mean that. Y'all actually care about that, right?

Sure, as long as an undefeated season goes with it so we can go to the big game. Lol @ you doubting the big game ability of a coach who put your program back on the map.

You still mad/sad/bitter.

  

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169. "Bruce Feldman reporting Vonn Bell to the Vols"
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...we shall find out soon enough
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171. "disappointing ending to an otherwise amazing class"
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sucks

  

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172. "Wonder who he got that nugget from"
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CUM just couldn't let him make the announcement

  

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174. "heckuva an assumption but that's par for the course..."
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with the bell recruitment.

there are twitter 'experts' trolling the shit out of every fan base...99.9% don't know any more than you or I do.

what's funny is they call it a career and make money off this, lol.

  

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177. "BWHWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHA"
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dude...

VolRumorMill ‏@VolRumorMill

Bell told the coaches and Meyer went public to ruin Bell's announcement. I hate that prick.

  

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259. "UT boards adding to the hilarity"
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slamming vonn bell for 'duping' them

UT fans too stupid to recognize they were duped and trolled by faux insiders with a twitter account.

bell said next to nothing throughout the process.

  

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179. "And he's a buckeye..."
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Gut-punch. Can't expect anything else when it comes to UT football right now. Credit to CUM. He's a closer.

  

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173. "Auburn DL gonna be murda.. lol"
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html

  

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176. "Vonn Bell...BUCKEYE"
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TAKE THAT! TAKE THAT!

  

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178. "COFFEE IS FOR CLOSERS@!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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holy shit

  

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180. "BOYD STAYS WITH PITT"
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He gave us a huge scare, even pulled out a Tennessee orange key chain just to fool people, but in the end he stayed after flirting hard with WVU and Tenn the last few weeks.

  

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187. "yes "
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182. "Ole miss is doin work"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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184. "man, Ole Miss is killin shit today... lolololol"
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Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html

  

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185. "desmond talking bout it"
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Desmond Howard @DesmondHoward
Judging by the skepticism I've heard re: #OleMiss, seems as though Coach Freeze finally figured out how they do it in the South. CONGRATS!


I guess it's better than all these kids going to bama...last thing they needed was tunsil.

  

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231. "hahaha... boiling hot magma.. I mean it is what it is but cmon.. lol"
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<---- 5....
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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html

  

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189. "OSU peeps: got to see Chris Worley's ceremony"
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/player-Christopher-Worley-131745;_ylt=AsSDFaJ2dzNmLwdH_v1_5Z9DPZB4

Cleveland Schools did a big ceremony for John Hay and Glenville signees. It was cool, because they had everyone who did a letter of intent, so in addition to worley and a msu recruit (forgot his name, but he's also one of Ginn Sr's kids) you had kids who signing for akron, kent state, youngtown, howard, and a bunch more all the way down to ave maria in florida. got to see about 12 kids fulfill their life-long dreams and see all their hard work come to fruition. when they lined up all the parents behind the kids in their hats for one big group shot, everybody got a little choked up.

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233. "Very cool."
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Ted Ginn Sr deserves to have a street named after him.

Dude has done soooo much for his community, its staggering.


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195. "Wait so the best player in IL moves to MISSISSIPPI? WTFeezy!"
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After Holiday Sale, take advantage of 25% off www.karmaloop.com w/ rep code JR9103 | Nike, G-Star, Spiewak, etc.
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196. "OLE MISS got Tunsil too? OH HELL NAWL!!!! Ole Miss didn't 'cruit"
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this good when they had Ed Orgeron


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197. "When did QB-PP become a position?"
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198. "I also saw TE-Y ...no idea."
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200. "Spread offenses, man"
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UCLA lists a Y position, which for some of our guys is more of a in-line TE, and for some of them is a slot WR, and for some of them is both. And I've seen a couple Alabama depth charts with the insanity of listing both a TE and a TE/H-back.

  

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201. "ah, makes sense. thanks."
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205. "Does it tho?"
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Hes either a receiver or TE, no?

Tavarres King comes to mind, I believe he went to Georgia as a TE but he is clearly a WR.

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228. "Pocket Passer (White) vs Dual Threat (BLACK)"
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199. "LB/S Kieshawn Bierria visiting Washington this weekend..."
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he'll join his former teammate QB Troy Williams there and will be led by new Husky defensive capatin and former Narbonne player Sean Parker..

the other Narbonne committs

WR AJ Richardson - Boise State
WR Greg Clark - New Mexico State
OT- Altanta Toussant - San Diego State
DT- Paulo Lepua - Washington State
DT- Victor Valentine - Evangel University (Missouri)

  

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260. "congrats to you, your staff, and your kids WC"
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(Naturally I'm hoping we continue to beat down your charges in Montlake.)

  

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203. "oh yea, snap back hats are ugly."
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212. "I have no idea why kids will wear a snap back over a fitted."
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Maybe I'm just old.

  

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215. "That's what I tell myself when I see dudes wearing their gf's jeans"
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>Maybe I'm just old.


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204. "CFB heads let me holla at you. "
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I don't follow CFB at all. And I really don't follow CFB recruiting.

But for the past few days each time I go to read about some UK basketball news, I gotta hear about some 3 or maybe 4 star signing they just had. Or a cat who's ranked #72 top WR in the country.

Do those kids ever materialize to solid CFB players or even NFL players?

I know with hoops the likelihood is slim.

And is there a great chance 5 stars just bust?

Basically I wanna know how accurate these ratings are.

I know each team carries a lot of players and dudes have to wait forever to ball out at major schools.

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207. "Football rankings are not very accurate at all"
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Sure, certain guys come in top ranked and become stars, but because football has such big rosters and so many positions compared to Bball there is a lot more room for diamonds in the rough.

A 2nd big factor is kids at 16 and 17 are being ranked and by the time they are 22 or 23 have a totally different body physique. You can look at pretty much any past year's rankings and be like who the fuck is that? about many of the top 50 players.

Perfect relevent example right now, Joe Flacco was an unranked 3 star QB who committed to Pitt then transferred to Delaware because he wasn't getting any time behind the highly ranked Tyler Palko at Pitt.

  

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210. "2007 rankings as a great reference"
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-1475

  

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229. "UF had a really good year recruiting, wow. Too bad"
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a few guys ain't work out there.


FSU was HORRIBLE that year. I think they've finished top 10 every year in recruiting since, could be top 5 every year after today.


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209. "Plenty of these lower rated guys make it to the NFL"
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Like for example, Justin Blackmon was a 3-star, #91 rated WR, and JJ Watt was a 2-star, not even ranked DE.

And plenty enough of the 5-stars flame out, whether they suck in college or just aren't good enough to make the league (like a John David Booty, a fine college player but just not good enough for the NFL).

But there's also only around 40 5-star players, 200 or so 4 star players, and way more 3-star players. It's more of a probability than anything for certain. Just like picking in the draft, if you have a top-10 draft pick your chances of getting someone good is way higher, but that doesn't tell you if any individual player will be good, and some guy you pick in the 2nd round could still be a star.

  

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213. "Wow....this shit blows my mind. "
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CFB recruiting really sounds like the hardest shit ever. No wonder these teams get like 5 qbs and see what works out.

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211. "basketball players are much more projectable"
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you'll never know what kind of football player an 18-year-old will be in four years. I also think a lot of these recruiting analysts are mediocre talent evaluators.

eta: and that's why I don't care a ton about recruiting any more. yes, it's important, but I've been through enough cycles and highlight reels to know that half these guys being cheered in this thread will disappoint.

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214. "Cuz even moreso than hoops a kid can look all world..."
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if I ever see a HS highlight or gametape.

Some dude could look like the fastest man in the universe and end up being a 5th string tight end or some shit.

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216. "Yup sums me up too"
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>eta: and that's why I don't care a ton about recruiting any
>more. yes, it's important, but I've been through enough cycles
>and highlight reels to know that half these guys being cheered
>in this thread will disappoint.

I care that we get enough guys for the right positions (always need QBs and linemen, and if all your RBs are leaving you should get some to replace them) and that the group on the whole is generally well regarded, but getting excited about any individual prospect is pointless.

EDIT: And it's pointless to get mad about a recruit flipping. That's just the nature of a bunch of coddled 17 year old kids and highly competitive coaches with a bunch of money and jobs on the line. You'll feel extra dumb when one of your big flips you get excited about comes to your school and gets kicked out for stealing a purse or something, anyway.

  

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226. "it's not hard to look at the offer sheets and piggyback off that"
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> also think a lot of these recruiting
>analysts are mediocre talent evaluators.

I think the phoniness of the recruiting industry is on the 'prediction' side of things where these analysts claim to know this or that and where X kid is heading...they're full of shit.

When I see a defensive recruit great physical measurables with offers from bama, LSU, etc. I'll go out on a limb and say there's some potential there.

  

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217. "ranking high school players is a tricky thing..."
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ranking high school teams in general is tricky...

a lot of these guys are ranked on video tape highlights. I could chop up a highlight tape to make a guy look like a 5 star recruit..but he may not be.... You also have to take into account the level of competition they are playing at.

the other thing too...a guy who plays in passing leagues, and goes to these high profile training camps in the summer often get more looks..and sometimes an exagerated ranking because somebody saw them with a great workout at a camp...

a guy who doesn't participate in those things...yet has a huge upside could potentially end up

there are regional biases that come into play also....

these scouts were very hard to find the guy who is under the radar and lock him in before anyone else finds out..

  

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221. "look at bama's recruiting rankings over the past 5 years"
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it's not coincidence.

recruiting rankings aren't the end all but it's certainly something. and incorporating a bust rate is a given. but if your class is ranked in the 20's you most likely won't be competing for NC's. you will not be winning games against elite squads on a regular basis.

take a look at where OSU and michigan is ranked this year relative to the rest of the big 10.

anyone want to wager how that conference is going to play out over the next 5 years?

  

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223. "Yeah. Gotta look at the big picture."
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You can't get too excited about individual players but the overall class ranking (over a number of years) definitely matters. One specific 5 star kid could definitely bust, but if you're bringing in a couple 5 stars and 15 or so 4 stars and you do this for a few years, your program is gonna be competing at a much higher level than a school bringing in a couple 4 stars and 15 or so 3 stars over the same amount of time.

  

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252. "It's got to be consistent over 4 or 5 years though"
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There is an expectation that Ohio State and Michigan would be at the top, top notch facilities, recruiting base

interesting that UNL is a solid third

drop off to 4th and beyond with Penn State, Mich State and Wiscy....then again Wiscy has decidedly gotten more out their less touted recruits and been a force in the Big Ten

Interesting to see with the new coach Anderson, with Braxton Miller and Taylor Martinez terrorizing the Big Ten, not surprising he wants a mobile QB

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255. "yes, it needs to occur over a course of a few years"
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while adhering to a program philosophy that has the potential for success. IIRC dick rod put together a highly ranked class or two but his philosophy was never gonna work so who cares.

>then again Wiscy has decidedly gotten more out their
>less touted recruits and been a force in the Big Ten

in years past, yes. with the conference changes and head coaching changes i dont see wisky continuing at the same level.

  

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271. "well defense did Rich Rod in, I think his offense was fine"
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same problem UNL had with Callahan, sure you can argue the culture fit wasn't there with both of them but Robinson and Cosgrove were a complete disaster at DC

I mean the OC for UNL during that time is now piloting the Teddy Bridgewater show in Louisville. Seems to working out okay


As a side note, found it hilarious that D'antonio was pursuing Taylor's younger brother in earnest, guess that is what happens when big bro obliterates your D to the tune of 200+ yards on the ground

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206. "These faxes cant be real right?"
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218. "Sure they are...I just faxed 4 letters of intent off to colleges "
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10 minutes ago...

the packets come with a copy to fax, and a copy to send fedex.

it's one of my favorite parts about all of this.... we fax them from the main office of the school....the principal is there with the other administrators.... it's a really cool moment for the kids...

the guys let me keep the copy of the letter of intent that I fax..so I have a bunch of them in a scrap book.

  

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219. "very cool."
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Steer some of those 4 and 5* out to Columbus so 3x and I can take credit for their recruitment.


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220. "couple names for next year...."
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Khalil Rashad-Brown...he's a safety.

and we just had a QB transfer in from Long Beach Poly...Eban Jackson

  

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225. "dam"
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208. "muahahaha. DAT. Arik. TORRODNEY."
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3 IN A ROW.

Great way to bounce back after the Wilson flip.

  

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222. "UCLA got some guy named Asiantii Woulard"
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I will never not see his name and think his not Ashanti.

  

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224. "he's our next QB once Hundley is gone...."
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dual threat type.

  

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227. "Scout has UCLA at #3 overall..."
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Cot damn.

  

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234. "Or, as he put it 'UCLA University' Yikes."
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236. "LOL...that's pretty bad"
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238. "LOL...well our academic standards finally caught up to rest of the confe..."
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242. "true....I was told by their primary recruiter this year"
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...again after not seeing any UCLA recruiters on our campus, or at are games in 3 years...

I was told that basiclly if a kid is a qualifier...he can stay in the mix at UCLA...

which made me feel really good because that puts my kids on their radar...

Coach Mora is on board with that.

It's great because ANY student who is a qualifier (meaning completed 16 core classes....with a GPA that meets their SAT score on the sliding scale).... Doing that is really really hard. People have no idea how much pressure the average student athlete is under to be a qualifier.

Here's the thing....an orange county school..or a private school is going to have more resources to make sure guys get their and beyond. So UCLA sticking with guys from those schools was a safe bet.

When you don't have those resources..it's really difficult just to get those kids qualified....so if they do..they deserve a chance at UCLA....

  

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235. "Also got Isaac Saaiinaea, we are gonna run out of vowels"
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243. "I guess those Tongan and Samoan kids hate the cold"
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I cant remember the last time I saw one of those names in the Big 10...Michael Hoomanawanui?...(and Teo I guess)



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247. "yeah he was committed to south fla he is big, good, asiatic "
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and a pocket passer

  

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230. "so nobody talkin about Alex Collins mom disappearing with his LOI?"
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i wake up hoping to read about someone else flipping to Arkansas and it turns out the prized recruit out of south Florida had his mother Houdini on him and attempt to get him to sign with the U.

what the fuck.

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232. "lol yea that shit is hysterical"
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(for impartial observers, of course) lmao

  

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237. "would be great if she was related to landon collins' mom"
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240. "Lol, this dude's face on the Yahoo article about sums it up"
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269. "sigh"
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239. "Damon Mitchell switches from GTech to Arky"
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dual threat QB from Jersey with great size 6'2 205.

i bet Brandon Allen will start day one, unless Brandon Mitchell destroys him in spring (highly possible). Mitchell deserves some time, he had a pretty tumultuous career in Arkansas with coaches always flipping him around and never giving him a legit chance at QB.

solid damn day for the Hogs tho, just hoping Alex Collins mother doesnt ruin his day. Kirkland who is also from Miami signed. our Oline will actually be a threat i think!

defense will be better, Petrino recruited a good D last year.

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268. "GT pulled his offer actually"
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committed since July and now he's visiting Arkansas the weekend before signing day?

PJ dont go for that

  

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241. "haha vandy war-room reaction to jordan cunningham"
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You got cheerleaders in there!? lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=m2mXbHHIfDI

  

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246. "shit is great"
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244. "Cutcliffe doin work for Duke:"
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Perhaps our biggest problem on the offensive side of the ball was the line. Historically, our line is smaller than most ACC D-lines. Cutty landed us some 3-star boys, including a 6'6 255, a 6'7 260, and a 6'4 290 center who's the sixth ranked center by ESPN.

The rest are a bunch of 3-star guys, two young QBs to learn from Cutty behind our current guy, a couple of decommits from other schools who joined us, and some undersized players who were crazy productive in HS. Currently the 67th ranked class in the country by Rivals... which honestly might be our best ranking to date.

Anyhow. Just wanted to put one Duke entry into this post. Y'all carry on.

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249. "I assume the coach we just poached from you"
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was a big part of that... said to be filthy on the trail...
excited to see the next cycle

  

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248. "alvin kamara signed with bamma he is about to be a Liberian legend"
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250. "Over/under on the years before the NCAA sanctions Ole Miss?"
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I give them 3 years

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251. "RB Ezekiel "EZE" Elliot reaffirms pledge to TOSU over Mizzou"
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out of John Borroughs HS in StL, MO

Four-star running back Ezekiel Elliott concluded what'd been a bumpy two weeks as an Ohio State commit, once and for all declining overtures from Gary Pinkel and the University of Missouri and recommitting to the Ohio State Buckeyes. During OSU head coach Urban Meyer's (and later running backs coach Stan Drayton's) 3 p.m. EST press conference, both saw them making insinuations towards a mystery player, which Drayton in particular indicated could be Elliott.

Elliott is rated by the 247Composite Rankings as the 5th-best all-purpose back in the class of 2013 and the best overall player from the state of Missouri. He's an aggregate four-star at all major recruiting services and rated overall as the 6th best player in his class.

The St. Louis product becomes the 20th Buckeye to fax in his Nationa Letter of Intent for National Signing Day 2013. Elliott was the 6th commitment in the class of 2013 for Ohio State, but his verbal pledge became a bit shaky after Missouri rolled the red carpet out for him on a zero hour visit to Columbia. All's well that ends well for the Ohio State faithful, as Elliott has now faxed in his NLI following his announcement ceremony, officially joining a loaded 2013 recruiting class for the Buckeyes.
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272. "Mizzou is in meltdown mode with their recruiting class"
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can't say I blame them, A&M outshines them in the Big 12 departure, future looks a little bleak for Pinkel in the suddenly stronger East

Pelini pulled some top flight talent that Mizzou wanted as well

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254. "Best recruiting class for us since 2008...."
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256. "on paper this class is better"
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I'm excited to see some legit punt/kick returners.

im still embarrassed over putting boom and saine back there, lol.

I also think getting a few skilled playmakers will take a lot of stress off braxton in the run game...as well as open up some inside running lanes for hyde and smith.

for a 12-0 team our WR's fucking sucked. just lining up some guys out wide who teams need to account for could really open things up.

  

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263. "an Oregon offense with a typical OSU defense? Yes please."
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Cant wait to see Jalin Marshall catch it in the flats and turn loose...

or having EzE running the option with Braxtpon....




>I'm excited to see some legit punt/kick returners.
>
>im still embarrassed over putting boom and saine back there,
>lol.
>
>I also think getting a few skilled playmakers will take a lot
>of stress off braxton in the run game...as well as open up
>some inside running lanes for hyde and smith.
>
>for a 12-0 team our WR's fucking sucked. just lining up some
>guys out wide who teams need to account for could really open
>things up.


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257. "fucking hell USC - Fr. TE Junior Pomee facing felony burg charges"
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I mean... you don't have to do this for us

  

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266. "lol damn"
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261. "In defense of Ole Miss..."
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I mean I get that Freeze has a rep, but it's true that you can trace much of their success back to a couple of key advantageous relationships between the kids themselves. (Nkemdiche's brother, and Treadwell's teammate...) And once you get a couple of blue chip kids to sign on, there's no telling where shit goes from there.

  

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270. "Honestly, props to Hotty Toddy..."
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What do they have to lose? And with the NCAA in a state of flux with The U issues, this is the perfect time to push the boundaries.

  

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264. "damn, osu stays failing lol"
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you have ONE JOB! pay teenagers to play your sports! goddamn next thing you know they'll start trying to front like they teach people things.

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265. "a little off topic....Malcom Jones returning to UCLA as walk on"
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I'm guessing he realized that there is a starting tailback position open and he needs to take the opportunity to get it....

and I'm glad that the door was still open for him...that speaks volumes about the new philosophy of the bruins.

  

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267. "gotta be a bitter pill to swallow..going from scholly to walk on"
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I was never impressed by him anyway, Franklin is twice the back he is
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273. "PSU back on their angry high horse, want tressel back, B1G is pathetic "
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http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2013/2/8/3964848/urban-meyer-ohio-state-penn-state-recruiter

Ever since he took the Ohio State job, Urban Meyer has seemed to go out of his way to piss off his counterparts across the Big Ten. But that's only reasonable, when you consider that he came to Columbus after his stint at Florida, right in the thick of the long-running reality show that is the SEC.

That's the conference where recruiting battles reach their crescendo with a mom running away with the papers before her son can sign his Letter of Intent, where a promise isn't a promise, even when it's branded in ink. Where coaches have figured out that most direct route to a high schooler's heart is through his girlfriend. It's a conference where the old saying, "If you're not cheating, you're not trying", is taken to heart, by fans and coaches alike, because, as the corollary goes, it's only cheating if you get caught. It's a conference where student-athletes are commodities to be tossed aside when the next big thing comes knocking.

And sure enough, it's a conference that's experienced a period of unprecedented dominance on the field, at least at its highest levels. The Alabamas and the LSUs and the Floridas of the college football world need only point to their trophy cases to prove that. As Penn State fans, and Big Ten fans, we can bitch and moan that the playing field isn't really level, but the fact is: that's of our own doing.

This is all a roundabout way of getting to the heart of the matter, but it's important to note the distinct philosophical difference between Urban Meyer and the rest of the Big Ten. For him, it's win at all costs, for the rest of us, more or less, it's a matter of self-respect. Although Bret Bielema lost any and all credibility he ever had by bailing on Wisconsin to take the job in Arkansas, he was right, a year ago, when he defended the Big Ten's honor and its gentlemen's agreements: "We at the Big Ten don't want to be like the SEC," Bielema said, "in any way, shape or form." Jim Tressel, like him or not, got that. He might've found himself embroiled too often in off-the-field scandals, but when it came to recruiting, he proved you didn't have to trample all over the very ideal of the Big Ten in order to succeed--or even to dominate--within it.

The SEC can boast the last seven national championships, but the Big Ten's led the country in Academic All-Americans for eight years. The SEC sends more kids into the NFL, but the Big Ten does a whole lot better preparing their student-athletes who go pro in something other than sports. Sure, maybe it's just a lame attempt at self-rationalization, but I firmly believe that when Joe Paterno said that success without honor wasn't something worth striving for, he set the tone not just for Penn State, but for most of its conference mates. He, of course, won some battles but lost the war; Nick Saban and Les Miles and Lane Kiffin and Urban Meyer are the progeny of the Jackie Sherrills and Barry Switzers of the world to whom Paterno refused to leave college football. Now, though, Urban Meyer wants to bring their mentality to Ohio State, and to the rest of the Big Ten, the last bastion of old-school values in big-time college football (Vanderbilt, Stanford, and some others notwithstanding).

There are a lot of readers, I'm sure, who I've just lost. They're probably doing this. But really? I don't care. That's their problem, not ours. I'll never be ashamed to be a Penn State fan, and I'll never be anything less than proud to be a part of a conference where, by and large, a team's won/loss record isn't the only thing that matters, much less its recruiting ranking. Here, Commencement Day is more important than National Signing Day. This isn't sour grapes: It's pride. The South still unabashedly honors a war that they were on the wrong side of. They commemorate the losing side of history that's long been left behind. Who's to say we can't do the same? At the very least, our romanticism is of a truly better time; we're to be admonished for our naivete, not reviled for our ignorance.

Anyway, all that adds up to make Urban Meyer's latest outburst even more insufferable. Now, you see, Urbz is throwing a bit of a tantrum because the rest of the Big Ten just can't catch up to the SEC, where even historically horrible programs can pull in recruits of national renown--among the Big Ten schools with more conference wins than Ole Miss over the past few years include Minnesota, Illinois, and Purdue. And everyone else not named Indiana. But Urban's not saying this because he really wants to raise the comparative level of competition within the Big Ten. Hate all you want, but this isn't pure hubris, either--he's not daring the rest of the conference to rise up and challenge Ohio State. Maybe, Meyer's worried that an undefeated Buckeye team wouldn't get credit for beating up on a bunch of overmatched conference foes.

Here's the thing, though: in the SEC, admonishing a school's recruiting prowess is fighting words. Here, it just prompts eye-rolls.

Never mind, of course, the fact that Michigan matched his recruiting class pretty much to a T, that Penn State would've been well on its way to doing just that if it weren't for the sheer egomania of Mark Emmert, and that Nebraska had a class on the verge of the top 10--much less the sheer presumptuousness of Meyer's douchery. And lest you think maybe Urbz was ust joking, let me ask you this: have you ever seen the man crack a smile? I'm not sure he understands the concept of humor. He's certainly showed in the last few days that he has no sense of irony--I'm sure if Bill O'Brien saw that quote, he'd have a few choice words for Meyer, or at least one choice finger. The best case scenario is that Meyer's just a pure concern troll. And that's the best case scenario.

But here's the thing, Urban: If you're going to talk the talk, you've got to walk the walk. To paraphrase Eminem, how you gonna trash talk us, Urbz, you just lost a top recruit! And not just any recruit, but a punter? A PUNTER? We built this conference on punting! Suffice it to say, this never would've happened if Jim Tressel was still in Columbus.

Oh, and what's that? Johnny Townsend ditched Ohio State for Florida? The same Florida that Urban Meyer burnt to the ground? The same Florida that Urban Meyer burnt to the ground so thoroughly that, in trying to sway a top prospect, he said he wouldn't send his son there, because of the dysfunction he helped foster?

Okay, that's trolling.

But you know what? Maybe there are some lessons he can teach the rest of the conference. Maybe that was one of them. I just wish I could get a syllabus of Recruiting 101 with Professor Meyer. Do you think he'd jump right in to "God told me in a dream that you belong at ", or is that reserved for later in the semester? When does he break out "how to harass a prospect's coaches"? What other tricks, lifted straight from the SEC, does he have up his sleeve, ready to break out to a notebook-clutching cadre of Big Ten coaches? Surely, we have much to learn.

Brady Hoke's proven that you don't have to be a pompous ass to be an effective recruiter, even in the Big Ten. Quietly, and without drama, he just compiled one of the best classes in the nation. Unfortunately, I don't think that concept--humility--has even crossed Urban Meyer's mind.

It's a sad fact that for the next half-decade or so, barring a minor miracle in Governor Corbett's lawsuit against the NCAA, Penn State won't be able to really compete with the Buckeyes. By the time the Nittany Lions are a force again on the recruiting trail and on the gridiron, odds are that Meyer will be gone--I'm impressed that he's gone this long at Oho State without retiring even once. It's a damn shame that Bill O'Brien won't get a fair shot to give Urban Meyer his comeuppance, but the rest of the Big Ten will be lining up for their chance. While Ohio State loads up, and most of the rest of the conference willingly lags behind, Meyer's firmly painted a target on his team's back.

The SEC might be the only conference where a school's fans will root for their rivals, but here in the Big Ten, we've all got two favorite teams now: Ours, and whoever's playing Ohio State.

And maybe, just sometimes, the North will rise again.

  

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274. "People don't want to talk about it, but Urban is right"
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the 3 best 5 star players in Big Ten states, none of them were signed by Big Ten schools, that shit has to stop

these garbage, bottom-of-the-heap recruiting by SEC proxy instead of their trash brand programs, that shit doesn't work when someone breaks the streak

It needed to be said

UNL spent the most money of anyone in the Big Ten on recruiting this year and has the biggest average distance for all recruits and is in the process of picking out a director recruiting and staff with the new rules

I see Kirk Ferentz of Iowa is already whining and making excuses about the new rules and the financial cost....well he could start by donating 1 million off of his contract?

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275. "I don't know what urban said that was so controversial"
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1. recruit harder, recruit better.
2. at the end of the day kids should play where they want to play
3. B1G needs to schedule less noon games and more night games because the noon game atmosphere sucks.

We've discussed point #3 a lot here...I'm excited to see that change.

  

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276. "what I read people think he is grandstanding and elitist"
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and don't think it's that hard for him with the championship ring, the OSU brand name and gargantuan athletic budget, recruiting base in Ohio

and they associate him with the SEC and implied cheating/dirty recruiting tactics

well guess who is winning?

No one thinks Minnesota or Indiana are going to compete for titles but....yeesh Iowa, Illinois are way down below where they should be as BCS conference schools and Wisconsin should not be ranked lower in recruiting than football trash like UK

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278. "people will twist anything to fit their agenda"
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they bitched and moaned about tressel

and now the cries are 20x louder, just as me and guru predicted.

it's not about the person behind the name, it's just the name. anybody who coaches at OSU and wins is going to be hated and vilified.

>and don't think it's that hard for him with the championship
>ring, the OSU brand name and gargantuan athletic budget,
>recruiting base in Ohio

he made it work at bgsu and utah...so there goes that excuse.

a lot of this is just about outworking your opponent. I think its a given that the SEC is a little more crooked than average but i also think they're just outworking everybody and making recruiting a priority.

the night game issue is a great example of this. i dont know how it works at other B1G schools but I know that tressel was in favor of noon starts because it allowed the grey haired fans/boosters to get home from the game for an early bedtime.

meyer doesn't give a fuck about appeasing the old folks and maintaining some archaic tradition...he wants to light the place up and get the best possible atmosphere to attract recruits and field the best teams. thats not cheating, that's not 'win at all costs' immorality...it's just common sense.

i was thinking today that more people watch the MAC then they do a lot of B1G teams because of the weekday night games. more isolated primetime slots could help boost a few of the B1G's lagging programs in more ways than one.

  

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280. "some of it is probably BTN inventory"
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but yeah I agree they should try and feature marquee games in the league whenever they can at night, even in November, which would take rule changes

save the Rutgers-Indiana games for noon

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283. "he's just trolling for SB Nation views"
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not worth parsing, but it is hilarious he included a coach with show cause hanging over him and another who was "negligent" to his program's child molestation cover-up as examples of Big 11 integrity. can you imagine if Penn State had hired a scumbag like Les Miles? they might've ended up on probation...

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277. "2014 Southfield DE Lawrence Marshall ....BUCKEYE"
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2014 Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary ATH Parris Campbell ...BUCKEYE

2014 Lancaster OL Kyle Trout....BUCKEYE.



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279. "will be interesting to see where drake harris and malik mcdowell land"
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285. "NOPE! Southfield DE Lawrence Marshall decommits from T$IO, visits Michig..."
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Southfield DE Lawrence Marshall decommits from T$IO, visits Michigan

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130214/SPORTS0201/302140429/1361/Southfield-DE-Lawrence-Marshall-decommits-from-Ohio-State--visits-Michigan
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286. "Lol, Dantonio using them SEC tactics!"
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>Southfield DE Lawrence Marshall decommits from T$IO, visits
>Michigan
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>http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130214/SPORTS0201/302140429/1361/Southfield-DE-Lawrence-Marshall-decommits-from-Ohio-State--visits-Michigan

http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/1266694.html


“The game was crazy,” Marshall said excitedly. “The game was CRAZY! It was a great basketball game with Keith Appling and Trey Burke going head to head… two great point guards. Then I had a sit down with Coach ‘D’ and was talking to him. He was just telling me the ins and outs of how he felt. He was just talking to me as a person, not as a football recruit ... and he just opened my eyes. “

“He said, ‘You’ve got to find the truth in people. You’ve got to figure out if they’re really there for you or if they just want you because you’re a kid from Michigan.’”

  

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281. "Wow is Leonard Fournette fun to watch"
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I imagine he ends up in B.R., seems there is even more elite talent in the Boot next year than usual which is saying something

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282. "SPEEEEEED....is overrated (c) michigan"
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it's more important to "look" like a michigan man....

lol wut?

http://www.annarbor.com/mi/wolverines/2013/02/speed_is_overrated_in_receiver/

ANN ARBOR -- Michigan signed three receivers last week, none of whom ranks better than a three star.
They seem to be big on size, but lack elite speed.

That doesn't concern receivers coach Jeff Hecklinski.

"Speed is overrated," he said last week. "Obviously, it's something we have to have. But speed is overrated. How can you truly judge the speed of a high school kid on the perimeter when maybe he touches the ball three times a game?

"If you can't catch, we have issues, right? All of our guys, if you watch them on high school film, they have great hands, they extend, they adjust to the ball, they track the ball very well up in the air -- they go up and they catch it. We can judge that on film. So, let's get the best hand-eye coordination guys -- guys that can go catch the football -- and let's bring 'em in here and then lets develop different areas."

Michigan's receiver class includes Da'Mario Jones of Westland John Glenn High School; Csont'e York of Harper Woods Chandler Park Academy; and Jaron Dukes of Columbus, Ohio.

None is known for his speed, and none is ranked among the nation's 50 best receivers according to Rivals. Dukes is considered the best wideout in the class, ranked 60th in the country.

But the Wolverines think they still found some good ones who fit their mold: Big guys who are strong in the air.

Jones is 6-foot-2, York is 6-3 and Dukes is 6-5. Include 2012 receiver signees Amara Darboh (6-2) and Jehu Chesson (6-2), and Michigan has added five wideouts the past two years who each stand at least 6-2.

And that's no accident.

"When he walks through that door, he should look like a Michigan wide receiver," Hecklinski said of Michigan's philosophy on recruiting receivers. "That thought, when a kid walks in and you say, 'Does he look like a Michigan Man?' That's important to us. That's very important to us because he represents us."

Hecklinski said Michigan will continue to recruit size at the position, citing former wideout Junior Hemingway as the archetype -- a 6-2 player who didn't have blazing speed, but was tremendous in beating defensive backs in the air.

If a recruit has those skills, the Wolverines believe they can teach the rest.

"It's an undercoached position in high school football -- not by anyone's fault, it's just the nature of the beast at receiver right now," Hecklinski said. "Let us coach technique, let us coach what we want. But if you can catch the ball, there's a place for you. Drew Dileo, Jeremy Gallon, they're not tall. But what do they do? They catch the ball."

  

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284. "ive read that Jones and Darboh are ~4.5 range...seems fast enough"
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Chesson is definitely fast...he won the MO state title in the 100m

York and Dukes are possession guys

  

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287. "How are your 2014 classes looking as of right now?"
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DE Lawrence Marshall of Southfield, MI decomitted from the Buckeyes and will visit other schools before deciding

4* RB Jalen Hurd of Hendersonville, TN visiting TOSU next..

supposedly the leaders for Raekwon McMillan as well..YES HIS NAME IS RAEKWON. THE PURPLE TAPE PUNS WILL FLOW if he ends up in C-Bus.

Interesting to note that Saban has offered the Glenville trio (Lattimore, Marcelys Jones. and Erick SMith)


10 players from the state of Ohio + 12-15 from the rest of the country= National Championships

game on!

ALso Alabama and LSU have joined Lane Kiffin in offering middle schoolers


http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/25/alabama-joins-lsu-in-offering-scholarship-to-eighth-grader/related/


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289. "aka the Guru and Matt thread"
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;o

then again we have no commitments so really just the Guru thread

I mean any commitments at this stage in the cycle get the sideeye treatment for me. lmao @ kids in Texas talking about commitments right now when they damn sure are going to take visits and entertain piles of offers between now and signing day.

  

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293. "I'm already thinking about spring practices and shit"
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lol

go ahead and make the offseason CFB post ....


and yea, texas is known for filling up their classes early


a lot of recruits are supposedly weary of Mack's long term situation from what I read...but Texas recruits itself so it wont matter in the long run


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294. "Michigan adds Top 100ish OG Mason Cole"
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Denzel Ward decomitted a while ago but i think its weird when kids go to IMG Academy to play a team sport

4 stars LB Michael Ferns and DT Bryan Mone in the fold also

along with yet unranked QB Wilton Speight

  

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288. "OT Dontae Levingston....C/O 2011....headed to UCLA"
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Dontae was at SMU as a redshirt freshman during June Jones last year. With the Coaching change he bounced back and went to El Camino College.... His O-Line coach from SMU joined Mora's staff at UCLA..... Now UCLA has offered him so he'll have 3 years to finish 3 years starting in August...

Big dude....he'll compete for a starting job right away....he's at about 6'5 315 right now

  

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290. "I remember watching his situation closely..."
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have to believe that will be a nice piece for UCLA

  

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291. "I was worried for a minute....he's one of my favorite kids"
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I've had ever..... but when it didn't work out at SMU...I was worried he'd slack off....

but he came back last week and told us that UCLA offered him...and he looks to be in awesome shape....

He may turn out to be a prospect at the next level now....he's close to home..which is better for him...and the kid is just huge..with great feet...

when he was a senior I remember scouts on the sideline marvelling at the fact he was able to get down field on our swing passes so quick.

  

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292. "Yup I was just thinking of the Klemm connection"
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Our O-line depth is paper thin so he definitely has a shot at PT right away... I was amazed (not in a good way) at some of the guys we threw out there as soon as one of our starters would go down.

  

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295. "who was the freshman defensive lineman we moved to the O-line"
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a few years ago...

lol..

undersized as hell too..

we got to build some depth on the O-line...

  

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297. "Kevin Brown?"
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We were actually the same year at both Poly and UCLA. His brother Owen coached DL at Verbum Dei (where he coached Akeem Ayers and Justin Edison) for a while, good peoples. I remember Kevin had a big game at DT against USC the year we were robbed at the Rose Bowl (the Reggie Bush early blown down fumble game), then sprained his ankle bad the next year and was never really the same player again. I might be mistaken though, there might have been someone more recent, hell even this year we switched McReynolds and McCarthy to OL for a while, though they're both headed back to defense. We actually had a semblance of a good D-1 line when all our starters were healthy this year, but as soon as someone got hurt and Downey or Cid came in (no offense to them, they tried), we basically got blown up at the line.

  

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296. "The renovation of Tennessee football"
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http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/blog/_/name/haney_travis/id/8983646/how-butch-jones-plans-rebuild-tennessee-football-college-football


KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- The identifying color around here is not exactly a guarded secret. If you're from East Tennessee, you are somewhat-to-overtly obsessive about Pantone 151; if you're not, you loathe it to the point of nausea.

Orange is perpetually abundant on the University of Tennessee campus, and these days that's especially true. Traffic cones and barricades are a similar hue to the one that defines the school, and a number of them line the streets and adjacent construction sites.

Things are a mess. It's difficult to get around the various building projects. It doesn't particularly appear pleasing. So that's the downside.

The positive: There's a plan. Despite the setbacks and inconveniences, there's the promise that one day things will be improved.

You're smart. You probably already know where this is going. Butch Jones, hired Dec. 7 as the school's fourth football coach in five years, inherited a similar mess. But he is insistent that he has a plan and things will soon be restored, just as the campus construction continues around him. Pardon the dust. Tennessee football, the once-proud program, is under construction.

"There's renewed optimism. There's a vision," Jones told me earlier this month, sitting in his recently completed football office that seems as if it's been pulled from the pages of an IKEA catalog. "You're going to get consistency. You're going to get continuity. It's a chance to represent one of those most storied football programs in the country.

"I understand I'm the caretaker of Tennessee football. I'm fortunate to be here."

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Speaking informally with some people at Tennessee, no one is in the business of bashing the most recent regime. But it's clear there has been a departure in attitude, something that was noticeable even during Jones' first days.

It's a matter of connection, really. And it's a matter of connecting in a variety of ways to a variety of people. It's the willingness to create a bridge to fans, alums with money, players, recruits, peers, former players and media members.

Some head coaches get that and manage it well. Some do not. From the conversations I have had, and listening to him personally, Jones seems up for making those connections. The previous coach, Derek Dooley, often was not, at least not beyond necessity. Those close to the program indicated Dooley was mostly disinterested in doing anything other than coaching football, even though the modern job requirements extend well beyond that. (Some coaches, especially younger ones, do everything but coach, it seems.)

That isn't necessarily Dooley's fault if that's who he is; it does, however, become the burden of the person who hired him. That's among the reasons why Dave Hart is now the AD and Mike Hamilton is not. There was so much effort to "find the opposite" with Hamilton's hires, from the vanilla-but-methodical Phillip Fulmer to the flamboyant-but-boyish Lane Kiffin to the professional-but-controlling Dooley.

Those failures brought Hart to his first big hire at Tennessee. Hart arrived from Alabama in September 2011, with the pronounced dip already well under way. By the time he let Dooley go with one week left in the 2012 season, the Volunteers were guaranteed their fifth losing season in eight years after 16 consecutive winning seasons (13 under Fulmer).

"We've struggled. We've had five, six tough years," Hart told me last week, also reminding me that the school, in addition to three ADs and four football coaches, has had seven presidents since 2000. "We've had way too much transition. We've got to establish stability."

He sought that in Oklahoma State's Mike Gundy, but Gundy remained. He sought it in Louisville's Charlie Strong, but he stayed. Hart saw it in Jones, too. While Hart might have given chase to others, he hinted that Jones was never far off that pace.

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Genuine is a word a number of different people used with me when describing Lyle Allen "Butch" Jones, the son of a small-town police chief in Michigan.

"That's part of his DNA," Hart said. "He's not faking it. The guy is like that every day of his life. He's got a lot of positive energy and it's contagious."

That's the same way I found him when he was kind enough to take a few minutes with me on signing day, even though our conversation was interrupted three times so he could briefly talk on the phone with 2014 prospects.

Jones is a balance of presence and approachability, a leader who is OK with letting you into his world. That's rarer than you might think, regardless of vocation. Don't get me wrong -- there's no question that he's pushing a product. And he has yet to coach a game in Knoxville. But there are the earmarks of someone who "gets it" when it comes to managing the program, just the same as I've seen traveling the country in the past 11 months.

I got the sense that, at minimum, the 45-year-old Jones very much believes in the past and future of what he's selling -- even if the present isn't so grand.

Those inside any college football program in the country will tell you that, for better or worse, the head coach sets the day-to-day tone. This is the one Jones is entrenching, and confidence plays a huge role.

"He's won everywhere he's ever been," Hart said.

Jones followed Brian Kelly with three bowl trips in three seasons and a 27-13 record at Central Michigan. Jones followed Brian Kelly (again) with two bowl trips in three seasons and a 23-14 record at Cincinnati.

No Brian Kelly this time, and that's more than just a joke. Kelly, successful, left to take other jobs; Dooley, unsuccessful, was fired. It's a different sort of program that Jones is manning. It's one coming off three consecutive losing seasons, including two straight without a bowl appearance. Attendance at Neyland Stadium, a lauded riverside cathedral of the sport, is as low as it's been since the 1970s.

"I think that was attractive to Butch," Hart said of the challenge, the mess. "That's the kind of competitor he is. There's no question in my mind he wanted to be here."

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After being hired, the first connection Jones prioritized was the one to players -- present, past and future. He first met with the current players. Every new coach does that. His second move, in his first week, was to put together an impromptu letterman's gathering. Jones wanted to meet those who had built the tradition he would attempt to re-establish.

Seventy former players assembled on two days' notice, Jones said. Seventy more came weeks later to a similar reception in Nashville. "They are the program," Jones said, mentioning ambassadors Eric Berry and Peyton Manning by name. He even went outside for a Vols connection, hiring former cornerback Terry Fair as a defensive assistant. Fair had been doing a local sports-talk radio show.

Jones says he'll continue to narrow the gap between the generations of Volunteers. And then there were the future players, the recruits. Jones and his staff moved to firm existing commitments while working to open new doors, such as the one of Atlanta quarterback Josh Dobbs. Looking for an intelligent, mobile leader, Jones and his assistants were able to sway Dobbs, an Elite 11 participant, from Arizona State to Tennessee in the final month of the recruiting process.


The Volunteers secured 12 new signees (21 total in the class), including eight -- Dobbs being one of them -- who were previously committed to other schools.

"Persistence" is the word Jones used to describe those flips. And it's one he applies generally to recruiting, whether it's the approach to the 2014 class that includes Berry's talented twin brothers or locating good fits for the classes beyond that.

"You've got to work to build those relationships every single day. We're going to recruit every single day," Jones said. "We have a great product, a great brand. ... Who wouldn't want to come to Tennessee? That's the way we look at it now."

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It's still several months until Jones' first game on the sideline, Aug. 31 against Austin Peay. It gets a bit tougher from there: Bobby Petrino and Western Kentucky, at Oregon and Florida in consecutive weeks, Georgia two weeks later, South Carolina two weeks after that.

Jones said he understands there are expectations placed on you in everything you do at Tennessee, but the first half of the schedule is as tough as it gets in college football. Those counting on an immediate turnaround either haven't examined the schedule, or they're entirely delusional.

A bowl bid. Avoiding a fourth consecutive losing season. Those would be foundational moves for Jones' first season. And even if 2013 resembles the past three years -- and it could, with the team's top offensive talent and the bulk of the defensive front gone -- recall that Jones went 4-8 in his first year at Cincy before a 10-win season in 2011 and a nine-win season in 2012.

"I think the reality is we've still got some holes to fill," Hart said when asked about reasonable expectations for 2013. "I think these kids will play hard for Butch Jones. But we've got Oregon and Florida and, by the end of the season, we could again play five of the top 10 or 12 teams.

"That's OK. The kids will want to compete. We have to learn how to win again. We do. What that takes is pulling a couple of those upsets. We were close to that. We've got to turn the corner."

In the meantime, in the weeks leading up to his first spring practices, Jones is building chemistry and camaraderie through something he calls the "VOLympics." There was something similar in place at Cincinnati. Captains, elected by their peers, draft teammates into 10 groups. Each team wins and loses points based on classroom performance, on-the-field performance, community service and other team-building events.

It's one of those deals in which the point deductions, the punishments, are meted out to the whole team and not just the violating individual.

Proper construction takes time. The timetable is often fluid, too. You never know what could set you back, or catch you up. But it's a matter of holding to the plan. We'll check back to chart progress. For now, there's at least an air of positivity.

"We're trying to get Tennessee back to its rightful place," Hart said. "We still have a hill to climb. We'll get there. We'll plant that flag. Butch is the right person. I have no doubt in my mind about that."


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He actually has a plan, is visibly putting it into action, and has a history of winning. He's very similar to Bruce Pearl in his start to his career here, which I love.

  

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300. "UT got a keeper i think. you win at directional Michigan schools..."
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you theoretically can win anywhere

  

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http://tennessee.scout.com/2/1274461.html

It's hard to find a college football program in the country hotter in the recruiting world presently than Tennessee.
After pulling in three commitments in as many days earlier this week, the Volunteers reeled in the biggest target of them all Thursday — Jalen Hurd.

"I've kind of known for a couple weeks now," Hurd told InsideTennessee. "I just feel like this is the right time, and I just wanted to go ahead and commit and start recruiting this upcoming class. It's just amazing."

Even coming in from Cincinnati barely three months ago, it didn't take coach Butch Jones long to identify Hurd's talent and importance to Rocky Top. Jones quickly got to work selling the Hendersonville, Tenn., native on being the bell cow for coach Mike Bajakian's offense. That work paid off Thursday.

"I could tell that (Jones) was just super excited. He was about to come out of his shoes," Hurd said.

The FOX Sports NEXT No. 7 running back in the nation on board in mid-March rather than the week of National Signing Day gives Jones a giant cog toward building the future roster of the Orange & White.

"Coach said to me that if UT does not have the top player in the state right now, then why would anyone else want to come. So, that's a good example, and I'm hoping that if everyone sees that everybody in the mid-state or state of Tennessee wants to come to UT, then everyone else will jump on board."

It was evident after the U.S. Army All-American tripped to Knoxville with his mother, step-dad and grandfather back on Feb. 16 that he really enjoyed himself and his perception of the direction Tennessee's program was heading had changed.

"I was very, very impressed with what I saw. I built a great relationship with all the coaches and that's my reason why," he said.

Hurd is a 6-foot-3, 225-pound bottle of thunder and lightning. In spite of dealing with a torn labrum eight games his junior year, he set a state single-season rushing record, galloping for 3.357 yards and 46 touchdowns.

The reigning TSSAA Class AAA Mr. Football Back of the Year joins slot receiver Vic Wharton, offensive lineman Coleman Thomas, defensive back Todd Kelly Jr. and athlete Neiko Creamer as Vol pledges for the Class of 2014.

"Todd just called me and he was just sitting there getting hype on the phone. It was hilarious," said Hurd, who posed for pictures in a Vol jersey alongside Kelly Jr. after a junior day earlier this winter.

Behind Hurd's 394 rushing yards and seven TDs, Beech took down Columbia Central 56-35 for the 2012 TSSAA Class 5A state championship. The Buccaneers went 15-0 and the team received their rings for their efforts in February.

Hurd still plans to visit The Hill on Saturday for family day with the current team and former players. He also is on track to graduate in December and begin his career as a Vol in January.

Knowing the thirst of Big Orange Country to get back to the elite of the Southeastern Conference and as someone who grew up a UT fan, Hurd already knows that rockstar status awaits him.

"I'm on my way to school right now," Hurd said. "It's going to be insane."

Danny Parker is currently the Managing Editor, Recruiting Analyst and Staff Photographer for InsideTennessee.com. He was previously the sports editor at Shelbyville Times-Gazette. He joined the InsideTennessee team July 2011.

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302. "This is the best start to a recruiting class in about 10 years"
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I can't remember ever being this hot in MARCH. Butch has done nothing but hit homeruns since he's been hired. He's going to win here. Probably not this year, but he will get us back to where we belong, eventually. Hurd is the biggest recruit we've landed since Eric Berry.

  

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