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melmag
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"which sport has the toughest college to pro transition??"
Thu Jan-03-13 11:59 AM by melmag

  

          


and what positions in particular?

  

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People always talk about the QB transition in football.
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It's football
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Of the 4 major sports its easily baseball
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true but its kinda that way because there is an actual farm
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      Just look at the MLB drafts over the years, and compare the success
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           oh ok, i don't follow college sports too much and especially
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Probably baseball, because baseball players tend to develop at a
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It's baseball
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Yeah
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yep...
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yep
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futbol for sure
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Would the speed of MLB Baseball be one of the main reasons there
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I dunno, I mean baseball and hockey are different
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1. "People always talk about the QB transition in football."
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But there are always guys at the other positions who hit the ground running.

Basketball is obviously the easiest to transition in to. High draft picks are the best players on their teams usually.

If you count baseball I think that has to be it because they have to work their way up to even play in the Majors.

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2. "It's football"
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Though don't discount how much longer the season is in baseball or basketball. College baseball players end their season in June, the MLB season isn't even halfway over. But it's also a lot less physically demanding.

But going from college to the NFL has to be ridiculous.

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3. "Of the 4 major sports its easily baseball"
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It's rare for a guy to even sniff the majors in his first year out of college

  

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5. "true but its kinda that way because there is an actual farm"
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system right? Or is there a farm system b.c its hard to transition to the pros?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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6. "Just look at the MLB drafts over the years, and compare the success"
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rate in the early rounds to the success rate of the NFL draft. It's a crapshoot because the players at that age still need to develop before you know if they are quality players or not. That's why there's a farm system.

  

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7. "oh ok, i don't follow college sports too much and especially"
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not college baseball but what you are saying makes sense.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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4. "Probably baseball, because baseball players tend to develop at a "
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later age. You can have a baseball player who is great at 19 but never turns into anything because he doesn't continue to develop as he hits his early 20's. You can also have young baseball players that are middle of the pack make a huge jump in development in their mid 20's. I guess that can be because for position players their power often develops later. For pitchers their success may be dependent on whether or not they develop a strong third or fourth pitch, and they may not do that until mid or even late 20's.

Football is probably the toughest jump in terms of the level of competition though - regardless of your own development the speed and strength jump from college to the NFL is HUGE.

  

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8. "It's baseball"
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People simply do not understand the skill level of MLB players. The speed of the game always amazes me. Just watch how easily double plays are turned in the bigs and how easy they make it look. It's crazy.

Seeing a hitter smash a line drive and an infielder have enough quickness to sometimes get in two steps before they dive to stop it is mind blowing to me - especially since I played at a high level.

There are so many things I could point out that most people probably don't even notice.

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9. "Yeah"
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Part of the reason for that is also because a high percentage of elite talent gets taken straight out of high school and never sees college. So unlike football or basketball, a majority of the best 19-20 year olds in the sport are not in the NCAA. Especially if you factor in international signings, which football has almost none of and basketball considerably less.

But if you just look at the list of All-Americas every year:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Baseball_All-America_Team

The number of guys that you'll never hear from in a professional baseball context is really high.

  

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11. "yep..."
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>People simply do not understand the skill level of MLB
>players. The speed of the game always amazes me. Just watch
>how easily double plays are turned in the bigs and how easy
>they make it look. It's crazy.
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>Seeing a hitter smash a line drive and an infielder have
>enough quickness to sometimes get in two steps before they
>dive to stop it is mind blowing to me - especially since I
>played at a high level.
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>There are so many things I could point out that most people
>probably don't even notice.

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10. "yep"
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12. "futbol for sure"
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13. "Would the speed of MLB Baseball be one of the main reasons there"
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is a hard transition?

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14. "I dunno, I mean baseball and hockey are different"
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You can't really say "college to pro" transition when most guys are drafted at 18 out of high school, Latin America, Major Junior hockey or foreign pro leagues. Of course a guy at 18 is going to take longer generally than a guy at 21-23 (like in the NFL) or even 19-23 (like in the NBA).

If you just looked at college guys, I think you'd find their transition to be sort of similar in those minor league oriented sports. Certainly it's true in hockey, you see a lot of guys come in as undrafted FAs from college and get in the game quickly or finish out a little more of their NCAA career and jump right in. Same thing in baseball, guys coming in at 22 from major programs are not going to spend as much time in the minors, maybe none.

What positions? I think catchers in baseball, defense in hockey, tackles in football (LT a little more so than RT I guess), quarterbacks obviously, centers in basketball and, probably the most demanding adjustment, would be a goalie in hockey.

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