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thejerseytornado
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"We gonna talk about Tubby's team ballin?"


  

          

top 10, good team at Minnesota. just beat MSU. Only lose to Duke on a neutral site.

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http://tinyurl.com/byao7vf
Dec 31st 2012
1
^^y'all owe this man an apology
Dec 31st 2012
13
oh, and a better coach than Calipari
Dec 31st 2012
2
http://thumbs.mugshots.com/gallery/images/05/7b/Saul-Smith-mugshot-23527...
Dec 31st 2012
4
      bwahhahaha nigga you maaad as shit
Dec 31st 2012
5
           geez youre making me defend cal of all people now?
Mar 15th 2013
47
he is usually due for a good team for every 5 mediocre ones
Dec 31st 2012
3
They ballin, but lets see if they avoid the usual mid season collapse
Dec 31st 2012
6
I hope he can parlay this good season into keeping Tyus home.
Dec 31st 2012
7
^^^^ The ONLY thing that matters right here.
Jan 01st 2013
16
      Him and Jahlil Okafor are supp to be a package deal as well
Feb 21st 2013
22
I'm not a tubby hater but this post has been made 3-4 yrs straight
Dec 31st 2012
8
I agree as probably the only Tubby fan here...
Dec 31st 2012
9
you not the only tubby fan anywhere
Dec 31st 2012
11
Most only started fucking with Tubby once he left UK....
Dec 31st 2012
12
Ahem.
Dec 31st 2012
14
      My bad
Jan 01st 2013
15
last year he lost Mbakwe
Dec 31st 2012
10
4 straight losses
Jan 28th 2013
17
and so it begins....
Jan 28th 2013
18
We gonna talk about Tubby's team fallin?
Feb 21st 2013
19
they looked so good in the beginning
Feb 21st 2013
20
This is ALL on Tubby too...
Feb 21st 2013
21
      http://tinyurl.com/axbv6u3
Feb 21st 2013
23
           I'm talking about right now....2/21/2013
Feb 21st 2013
24
           he wasnt *that* great at UK
Feb 21st 2013
25
                o and what happened when Tubby left UK?
Feb 21st 2013
27
                2 other Elite 8's, won the SEC a number of times,...
Feb 21st 2013
29
           you should show that picture to the IU team
Feb 21st 2013
26
                Yeah, you mad.
Feb 21st 2013
28
                     lol why would i be mad?
Feb 21st 2013
30
Or if they do make the dance, Tubby's gone
Mar 25th 2013
63
      And advance in the dance, Tubby's gone.
Mar 25th 2013
64
It's been six years and I have seen enough.
Feb 21st 2013
31
Well, I think he should've just jumped to the NBA...
Feb 21st 2013
33
      I agree 100% his heart ain't in it anymore.
Feb 21st 2013
34
           Especially if they have a lot of talen in the state, you...
Feb 21st 2013
35
LOVE how this post got re upped by the way lol!
Feb 21st 2013
32
http://youtu.be/Oi1BcouEmio
Feb 26th 2013
36
it's a start....nm
Feb 26th 2013
37
YES SIR
Feb 26th 2013
38
that win help our #1 seed chances
Feb 26th 2013
39
not just yours...UM vs IU in Ann Arbor will be for a 1 now
Feb 27th 2013
40
lol
Feb 27th 2013
41
      welp, so much for that
Feb 27th 2013
42
with this loss to Ill do they make the tourney?
Mar 14th 2013
43
Absolutely. They'll be around a 10 seed.
Mar 14th 2013
44
      your use of *if* is very telling about Tubby's current status
Mar 14th 2013
45
      ^^^ I was close. An 11 seed with a terrific matchup instead.
Mar 17th 2013
51
NIT bound.... congrats O E
Mar 14th 2013
46
Lunardi has them as a 9 right now though
Mar 15th 2013
48
: - (
Mar 17th 2013
50
: - (
Mar 23rd 2013
56
Going to the tourney. Describe how mad you are below.
Mar 17th 2013
49
lol
Mar 18th 2013
52
motherfucker got a lucky draw lol
Mar 18th 2013
53
MMMMMMMMMMMBAKWE
Mar 23rd 2013
54
Andre Hollins was getting busy last night.....
Mar 23rd 2013
55
if fuckin Wisky didn't flop we woulda ran the table....
Mar 23rd 2013
57
FIRED (link)
Mar 25th 2013
58
damn
Mar 25th 2013
59
That is insane, they are overvaluing their program
Mar 25th 2013
60
That's probably a good thing
Mar 25th 2013
62
I'll hold my tongue, Teague is pretty well connected
Mar 25th 2013
69
BWHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAH
Mar 25th 2013
61
Wow...
Mar 25th 2013
65
What in the world?
Mar 25th 2013
68
That blows
Mar 25th 2013
66
I guess they expect better than Wisconsin
Mar 25th 2013
67
Exactly. Shit aint easy.
Mar 25th 2013
70
Minnesota looked at UCLA like, "Yeah, we should expect more too!"
Mar 25th 2013
71
      Can actually see Ben howland doing well at Minn
Mar 25th 2013
87
I think it's unhealthy for teams to cyse tournament results too much
Mar 25th 2013
72
Well, I appreciate it, Captain Obvious
Mar 25th 2013
74
      RE: Well, I appreciate it, Captain Obvious
Mar 25th 2013
78
           You're having a rough Monday.
Mar 25th 2013
80
                Sorry, your first post made it seem like Minnesota had
Mar 25th 2013
84
they have forgotten that they're minnesota
Mar 26th 2013
99
They have a new AD, the same one who hired Shaka @ VCU
Mar 25th 2013
73
Yep. To return to the glory days of Golden Gopher basketball.
Mar 25th 2013
75
      only Final 4 they've ever made was forfeited
Mar 25th 2013
76
      Lol...from the Minnesota basketball Wikipedia page:
Mar 25th 2013
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      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Mar 25th 2013
79
      they were dope while Naismith was still breathing, tho
Mar 25th 2013
81
      Cool, I guess they should just be content with being mediocre
Mar 25th 2013
83
           ^keepin it 100
Mar 25th 2013
85
           If they throw all kinds of money at the program NOW
Mar 25th 2013
88
                I agree that Tubby wasn't put in the right position to succeed
Mar 25th 2013
90
                     He knew that going in just like anybody else.
Mar 25th 2013
91
                          Stopped reading here.
Mar 25th 2013
92
                               Low budget is no shock to anyone coming here.
Mar 25th 2013
93
                                    Question: Is the program in better shape than before he arrived?
Mar 26th 2013
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                                         Lol, what? No it's not.
Mar 26th 2013
100
                                              Not entirely sure why OE is speaking like he knows anything
Mar 26th 2013
101
                                              This is easy to settle: Pre-Tubby vs. Tubby
Mar 26th 2013
110
                                                   http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/68992/ryan-nod.gif
Mar 26th 2013
118
                                                   LMAO
Mar 26th 2013
119
                                                   ^IF I COULD PLEEAAAA HIGGGHHEERRRR (c) g-L-oria Estefan
Mar 26th 2013
121
                                                   If Tubby went half as hard as OE is going in this post
Mar 26th 2013
122
                                                        That's your answer to my statistics that fried everyone?
Mar 26th 2013
123
                                                             Man there are players on MAAC teams from Minnesota doin work
Mar 26th 2013
127
                                                                  Simple question: Are they better now than when he arrived?
Mar 26th 2013
130
                                                                  Absolutely not.
Mar 26th 2013
134
                                                                  Hahah. You're a despicable fucking LIAR
Mar 26th 2013
135
                                                                  RE: what? name a couple.
Mar 26th 2013
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                                                                       My bad, I meant Summit League and Horizon leagues
Mar 26th 2013
137
                                                   man, i don't even follow gophers bball
Mar 26th 2013
138
                                                        RE: man, i don't even follow gophers bball
Mar 26th 2013
139
                                              Thanks Guru for handling that one. SMH..
Mar 26th 2013
132
                                                   LOL -- answer the question
Mar 26th 2013
133
           I hope they get Flip Saunders. So they can beg for mediocre.
Mar 25th 2013
89
                Flip is the home run choice.
Mar 25th 2013
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                     RealBillyOcean was joking
Mar 26th 2013
97
RE: That blows
Mar 25th 2013
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Myron Medcalf giving an A+ rant on Twitter.
Mar 25th 2013
86
Supposedly theyve offered Shaka 3 mill
Mar 25th 2013
95
Nobody really knows what Shaka is waiting for.
Mar 26th 2013
98
      I really wonder if some of these guys will just stay put for a decade...
Mar 26th 2013
102
      How sure are we that Shaka or Brad would be successful anywhere?
Mar 26th 2013
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           We're not. They're not slam dunks.
Mar 26th 2013
128
           Stevens would have to revamp his style at a big school
Mar 26th 2013
131
                Greg Hicks from BRO on Stevens
Mar 26th 2013
140
      I don't know precisely what college basketball coaches prioritize
Mar 26th 2013
103
           money and fame
Mar 26th 2013
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                "I'm headed to Lawrence, KS to find money and fame"
Mar 26th 2013
105
                     Self and Calipari probably write the state laws
Mar 26th 2013
106
                     You obviously dont understand the makeup of CBB
Mar 26th 2013
108
                          walleye's point still stands though
Mar 26th 2013
109
                          3.5 million a year can get you a lot of things to do....
Mar 26th 2013
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                          I'd rather have 3 mil in Minneapolis than 3.5 in the middle of nowhere
Mar 26th 2013
113
                          Umm. You just got on me for not watching the Big 10
Mar 26th 2013
112
                               You're right...these people are robots with no personal lives
Mar 26th 2013
115
                               But it could have something to do with a job search
Mar 26th 2013
117
                                    Seems like you were making sure people ain't shit on Minny
Mar 26th 2013
120
                                         That's precisely what I'm doing here
Mar 26th 2013
125
                          "not... likely been uttered in other professions"
Mar 26th 2013
114
                               LOL
Mar 26th 2013
116
                               Iowa is horrible as far as I can tell.
Mar 26th 2013
124
                               That's the difference between American success and CBB success.
Mar 26th 2013
126
                                    ack
Mar 26th 2013
129
Tubby To Texas Tech!
Apr 01st 2013
141

Orbit_Established
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1. "http://tinyurl.com/byao7vf"
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13. "^^y'all owe this man an apology"
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2. "oh, and a better coach than Calipari"
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Plus his 'chip at Kentucky is secure, won't ever be revoked

Doesn't rape people like Pitino

No criminal record, no NCAA infractions

He just don't pay players and doesn't give into the uncle tomish
leanings of poor black kids who trust white authority figures more
which is why he couldn't recruit at Kentucky

He only wants strong kids of all races on his squad who buy into
good morals, education, solid values

Kinda like K, but doesn't have that pedigree yet

Was there really any doubt that he'd succeed, though?

HE CAN COACH

Always has been able to




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4. "http://thumbs.mugshots.com/gallery/images/05/7b/Saul-Smith-mugshot-23527..."
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http://thumbs.mugshots.com/gallery/images/05/7b/Saul-Smith-mugshot-23527191.400x800.jpg

better call saul?

  

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5. "bwahhahaha nigga you maaad as shit"
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Saul had him some drank and decided to drive

but seriously -- how nervous are Kentucky fans that y'all
gonna have to vacate that 'chip?

o and Calipari doing a REAL NICE JOB coaching this year!

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47. "geez youre making me defend cal of all people now?"
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it took him three seasons to accomplish everything smith did at kentucky essentially (not to mention he came close to doing it at memphis right before that).

i'm all for the "get ready to vacate it" but smith with ZERO tournament wins at minnesota. come on now.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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3. "he is usually due for a good team for every 5 mediocre ones"
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6. "They ballin, but lets see if they avoid the usual mid season collapse"
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7. "I hope he can parlay this good season into keeping Tyus home."
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16. "^^^^ The ONLY thing that matters right here."
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If he were somehow to beat the odds and we get him to stay home ....I still think its a longshot. Tyus Apple Valley squad plays Robinsdale Cooper Saturday at Target Center. Rashad Vaughn of Cooper is the #2 SG. OE's guy Cal and Izzo have been seen here as much as Tubby too. Gonna be interesting.

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22. "Him and Jahlil Okafor are supp to be a package deal as well"
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I hope they stay in the Midwest...anywhere but Lexington or Durham
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8. "I'm not a tubby hater but this post has been made 3-4 yrs straight"
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It'll start hot but nobody ever ups it on him cause everyone lives tubby.

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9. "I agree as probably the only Tubby fan here..."
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(Who's actually watched his teams perform) we do this a lot. Then they struggle in Conf play.

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11. "you not the only tubby fan anywhere"
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12. "Most only started fucking with Tubby once he left UK...."
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I'm talking when he was on Pitinos staff. Had Shea Seals at Tulsa. Almost made a run with Georgia if it wasn't for a John Wallace prayer.

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14. "Ahem."
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15. "My bad"
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10. "last year he lost Mbakwe"
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and never before was minnesota above 15. i dunno, this year seems like it might be much more legit.

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17. "4 straight losses"
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18. "and so it begins...."
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19. "We gonna talk about Tubby's team fallin?"
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Lost 8 of the last 11

Blew an 18 point lead and lost to Iowa by 20 over the weekend and almost lost by 30 last night to an average Ohio State team...

If they don't make the dance, Tubby's gone.
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20. "they looked so good in the beginning"
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i really thought they had a chance to do serious damage

but they suck

  

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21. "This is ALL on Tubby too..."
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>i really thought they had a chance to do serious damage
>
>but they suck


they have the size, skill players, and veteran leadership.

they're just so undisciplined (lazy passes, no effort fighting through screens, going one on one, stupid shot selection etc) and they still dont have a go to guy..no one on that team has stepped up and taken the team by the reins...




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23. "http://tinyurl.com/axbv6u3"
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http://tinyurl.com/axbv6u3

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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24. "I'm talking about right now....2/21/2013"
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but yea, he was a great coach at Tulsa,UGA and UK...

After watching ANOTHER Minnesota collapse (3 years in a row now..) can you say he's the same Tubby Smith..?

This team has none of the traits that Tubby Smith teams of the past had...



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25. "he wasnt *that* great at UK"
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he did preside over the longest final 4 drought in school history

  

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27. "o and what happened when Tubby left UK? "
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Bwaahahahahaha

It took paying players to get UK back on track
and I'm not mad at Calipari at all


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29. "2 other Elite 8's, won the SEC a number of times,..."
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put players in the league.

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26. "you should show that picture to the IU team"
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and see if it helps minnesota not get their teeth smashed in

  

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28. "Yeah, you mad. "
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>and see if it helps minnesota not get their teeth smashed in


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30. "lol why would i be mad?"
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Michigan: 22-4

Minnesota: 18-9

i just think its funny you ride for him so much despite that he won a chip with pitino's players and then presided over the longest period of futility in their history

  

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63. "Or if they do make the dance, Tubby's gone"
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64. "And advance in the dance, Tubby's gone. "
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31. "It's been six years and I have seen enough. "
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I owe UK fans an apology. I bought the hype when he got here, but this year's fall off has been embarrassing. Last night in Columbus hopefully will be the game that convinces the U to eat the rest of his deal. Out of the many complaints against him, recruiting is the biggest head scratcher with him. His mid major level talent bench has given the team NOTHING all year. There are Mn players elsewhere in the country doing big things that would have stayed here like Jordair Jett at St Louis, Carlos Emory at Oregon and Nate Wolters at S Dakota St (who will get drafted this year). While his recruits he brought in have been REDSHIRTED (????). The dude leaves me scratching my head. He has lost his team with a few players going on Twitter to vent on how he throws them under a bus after losses. This year has been terrible after a once again promising start.

In a perfect world, Flip comes back to his old school and takes the job. He could recruit nationally because kids have seen him in the NBA. He would be a BETTER coach in college than the pros, where is non confrontational style has killed him. The only thing is Flip doesn't see himself anywhere but the league, where he can employ all his million and one sets he so loves. This shit is BAD.

The longshot home run would be for the new AD Teague, who hired Shaka Smart at VCU, will get him to listen and accept the offer when he gets that call.

We'll see ...

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33. "Well, I think he should've just jumped to the NBA..."
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when he had the chance.

I'm not close to the Minn program, so I can't even front like I watch them. I only see updates on Kentucky boards. And most of them assholes on the forums hate Tubby and love having fun at his missteps. But those are trolls.

But ever year I see them start off strong and then I check back before the year is over and they're in the middle of the pack or bottom.

I think he cares about the kids. Loves coaching. And loves teaching. But his heart isn't into the other things. The main thing is recruiting.

Tubby's past accomplishments, track record for making successful pros and pros that stay in the league after playing under him with shit he specifically taught them, and connections with the NBA should allow him to get a lot of 4 star and 5 star every now and then.

I just don't think he wants to do it. Doesn't want to play that game.

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34. "I agree 100% his heart ain't in it anymore."
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That exactly how it seems. He comes off like he is only doing enough to satisfy the job requirements. You never see him around the T-Cities doing anything to promote the team, and he barely speaks to the press, damn near aloof at times.

The thing is, with 3 top 50 recruits in the state's Jr class, (Tyus, Vaughn, and Travis), stakes are HIGH. If they could hit that home run and get Smart I could see a case where all 3 stay in the state. They all play different spots on the floor. OK maybe that's a longshot with Tyus, but still.

If Tubby stay as it is they would be fools to mess with this IMO.

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35. "Especially if they have a lot of talen in the state, you..."
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can't let everyone leave. Especially the top dudes.

For example, none of the top players stay in NJ and you never want that to happen.

Tubby should get at least one of them dudes. And probably 2. And he should be on Tyus's final list. Because that's pretty much what they got him for.

But doing that shit is a pain the ass. I know Saul is on his staff. Not sure about G.G. But he needs to get those guys to do work and make them be his legs. Then drop in and make the appearances.

If not get some of his other former players to do the leg work and show some rings and talk about the NBA. Off the top, he could get Wayne Turner a gig, Scott Padgett, shit even Randolph Morris or someone like that. "Tubby did this for me. Tubby prepared me this way."

That goes a long way with these little kids.

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32. "LOVE how this post got re upped by the way lol!"
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36. " http://youtu.be/Oi1BcouEmio"
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37. "it's a start....nm"
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38. "YES SIR"
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39. "that win help our #1 seed chances"
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40. "not just yours...UM vs IU in Ann Arbor will be for a 1 now"
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41. "lol"
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im happy tho

michigan state went down, and now indiana, and michigan controls its own destiny for at least a share of the big 10 title

  

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42. "welp, so much for that"
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>im happy tho
>
>michigan state went down, and now indiana, and michigan
>controls its own destiny for at least a share of the big 10
>title


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43. "with this loss to Ill do they make the tourney?"
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44. "Absolutely. They'll be around a 10 seed."
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And *if* they show up, that's a dangerous matchup for a 2 seed.

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45. "your use of *if* is very telling about Tubby's current status"
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51. "^^^ I was close. An 11 seed with a terrific matchup instead."
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46. "NIT bound.... congrats O E"
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48. "Lunardi has them as a 9 right now though"
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50. ": - ( "
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56. ": - ( "
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49. "Going to the tourney. Describe how mad you are below. "
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52. "lol"
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53. "motherfucker got a lucky draw lol"
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anyway. i like tubby just not that boring ass school
bobby jackson and his high socks made me hate that program
i wish tubby was coaching a sexy school


  

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54. "MMMMMMMMMMMBAKWE"
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55. "Andre Hollins was getting busy last night....."
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28 Pts, 9 Reb, 5 Ast

  

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57. "if fuckin Wisky didn't flop we woulda ran the table...."
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58. "FIRED (link)"
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Ridiculous...
http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/199883041.html

  

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59. "damn"
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60. "That is insane, they are overvaluing their program"
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They are not going to replace him with anyone important and the consistency they had is going to go away.

There are people who wanted Pitt to get rid of Dixon, but they were smart and gave him the extension because Pitt is what Pitt is, to act like we could replace him with a biger coach and not fall off a bit is wrong. This is what Minnesota is doing.

  

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62. "That's probably a good thing"
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and
>the consistency they had is going to go away.


...because they were consistently underachieving and consistently falling apart after strong starts out of the gate


(edit, I do agree that they might be feeling themselves too much..they did the same thing with Glen Mason and the FB program)


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69. "I'll hold my tongue, Teague is pretty well connected"
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When they got a new AD I figured this could be a big year for Smith. I am a little surprised at the move but it all depends on what they pull off as far as a replacement.

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61. "BWHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAH "
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65. "Wow..."
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68. "What in the world?"
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66. "That blows"
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I wonder how good the Gophers think they're supposed to be.

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67. "I guess they expect better than Wisconsin"
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Which is fair.

Except when you consider that Wisconsin got their
ass bounced in the first round

Sooooooo

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70. "Exactly. Shit aint easy."
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Look at Gonzaga. Lol.

Compete. Run a clean program and win. Anything beyond that should be gravy.

Oh and I read some shit where Tubby didn't know until it was leaked on the Internet. Smh

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71. "Minnesota looked at UCLA like, "Yeah, we should expect more too!""
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Good grief.

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87. "Can actually see Ben howland doing well at Minn"
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He's not gonna get any major major jobs. He's gonna have to downgrade back to a job like min or Pitt or a mid major. After all the shot that's gone down at uclA the last few years I wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't have a job next season either.

If he wanted to fuck with uclA he should go to USC or another PAC 10 program

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72. "I think it's unhealthy for teams to cyse tournament results too much"
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Unless there's a glaring problem, like Georgetown's string of futility.

But it's pretty ridiculous to make personnel decisions based strictly on one 40 minute basketball game played by college kids. Anything can happen in the Dance, and anything does happen in the Dance. But it shouldn't totally discredit a team's season if they simply had a shitty shooting performance and got bounced.

Sort of a random thought post, but I guess I'm also disagreeing with your post because I think Wisconsin had a better season than Minnesota, and Minnesota should absolutely expect equal or better results than Wisconsin. But when it comes to the tournament...it's just best to get lucky.

  

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74. "Well, I appreciate it, Captain Obvious"
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>Unless there's a glaring problem, like Georgetown's string of
>futility.

Georgetown has a string of futility? In what? Pretty girls?

>But it's pretty ridiculous to make personnel decisions based
>strictly on one 40 minute basketball game played by college
>kids. Anything can happen in the Dance, and anything does
>happen in the Dance. But it shouldn't totally discredit a
>team's season if they simply had a shitty shooting performance
>and got bounced.

Really? Profound, dude.

>Sort of a random thought post, but I guess I'm also
>disagreeing with your post because I think Wisconsin had a
>better season than Minnesota, and Minnesota should absolutely
>expect equal or better results than Wisconsin. But when it
>comes to the tournament...it's just best to get lucky.

Wisconsin had a better season than Minnesota?

Say word?

And The NCAA tournament might not be the only measure, but
it is *a* measure, and it does matter.

Not sure what you're arguing.

I'm saying:

a) Obviously Wisconsin had a better season than Minnesota

b) Minnesota still had a good season by most measures, especially
its own standards in the best conference in America.

North Carolina had a good season to, in a muuuch weaker conference,
all things considered. As did a lot of teams who aren't sniffing
the national championship.

c) All this revisionist "The NCAA tourney don't matter" nonsense is
mostly just copping pleas at this stage. Of course it fucking
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78. "RE: Well, I appreciate it, Captain Obvious"
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>Georgetown has a string of futility? In what? Pretty girls?

Umm. The tournament, dog.

  

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80. "You're having a rough Monday. "
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84. "Sorry, your first post made it seem like Minnesota had"
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an equal/better season than Wisconsin because they won a game in the tournament.

  

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99. "they have forgotten that they're minnesota"
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reminder: imminent

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73. "They have a new AD, the same one who hired Shaka @ VCU"
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I'd imagine he has bigger goals than the perpetual mediocrity that they've been stuck in

  

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75. "Yep. To return to the glory days of Golden Gopher basketball. "
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76. "only Final 4 they've ever made was forfeited"
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For some reason I thought they had a little more history than that.

What a mess.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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77. "Lol...from the Minnesota basketball Wikipedia page:"
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"The Gophers had great success in the early years of basketball, but have been largely overshadowed by other programs since the end of World War I."

  

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79. "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
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That's fantastic.

  

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81. "they were dope while Naismith was still breathing, tho"
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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83. "Cool, I guess they should just be content with being mediocre"
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it's college basketball, all it takes is the right coaching hire to change all of that, Tubby wasn't taking them beyond what they were. Why should a new AD settle for Tubby's performance when he seen with his own eyes at VCU a coach do more in a couple years than what Tubby did during his entire Minn tenure? You're acting as if this AD has been there the whole time and used to being middle of the road.

  

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85. "^keepin it 100"
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>it's college basketball, all it takes is the right coaching
>hire to change all of that, Tubby wasn't taking them beyond
>what they were. Why should a new AD settle for Tubby's
>performance when he seen with his own eyes at VCU a coach do
>more in a couple years than what Tubby did during his entire
>Minn tenure? You're acting as if this AD has been there the
>whole time and used to being middle of the road.

Absolutely.

Everything DanSpeak said up there in post 31 is true.

It was time to make a move, especially with the B1G adding even more teams.

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88. "If they throw all kinds of money at the program NOW"
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That simply means they were holding out on Tubby,
not giving him resources THAT THEY HAD to give him.

If he gets better facilities and incentives and things
to attract recruits, they are BETTER.

And they STILL were NEVER bad, even with the program
holding out on him.

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90. "I agree that Tubby wasn't put in the right position to succeed"
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& to be honest, when he went to Minnesota I was wondering why because he could have held out for a better job, with more support from the top brass and the facilities to compete at an even level. Dan Monson complained a lot about how much Minnesota was behind other schools in the conference.

For whatever reason, he thought things would change and he accepted the job. However, he still managed to put together good recruiting classes (for Minnesota anyway). His in game coaching left a lot to be desired though.

I think if the old AD was there, Tubby would still be in the Twin Cities. New ADs are always eager to clean house and make a new impression.

>That simply means they were holding out on Tubby,
>not giving him resources THAT THEY HAD to give him.
>
>If he gets better facilities and incentives and things
>to attract recruits, they are BETTER.
>
>And they STILL were NEVER bad, even with the program
>holding out on him.
>
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>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
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>
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>
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>
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91. "He knew that going in just like anybody else."
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Nobody forced him to take the money coming in. He could've told them he wasn't taking the job unless they upgraded the facilities etc ... but he took the money. Wined about the budget pretty much every other news conference he was in along the way too. I get tired of folk who say we can't expect anything other than mediocrity. The TC's are a MAJOR metropolitan area, not a college town. The Big 10 is the BEST conference in America. If you're a potential recruit we just graduated our two best players. Besides the Hollins boys, EVERY spot will up for grabs, why NOT consider coming here with the right coach?

I live here, it's been six years and I am STILL looking for the guy I thought we were getting. A man who would be fired up to prove that the UK fans were wrong about him. After these 6 yrs, I don't think that guy exists. If y'all were up here to read the quotes in the star trib after losses you would clearly see he lost this team. It was obvious he didn't like them and vice versa.

Yet and still IMO the number #1 reason (or should I say the THREE) reasons they cut bait are named Tyus Jones of Apple Valley, Rashad Vaughn of Robinsdale Cooper, and Reid Travis of Mpls De La Salle. Google those names and get familiar. Top 50 players in their class. A blind man could see they wanna have a shot at one or all of these kids. The right hire could do the trick. If the AD really believed Tubby was in good with those kids he would still be here, bottom line.

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92. "Stopped reading here."
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A man who would be fired up
>to prove that the UK fans were wrong about him.

Kentucky learned that the instant he left.

See: Gillespie, Billy



Edit: And on some real shit, I don't mind Minnesota
trying to move in a new direction.

Just don't shit on Tubby Smith. There is no justification
to do so, at all. He did a fine job. The program just isn't
top notch. Not his fault. You didn't invest. The fanbase isn't
rapid and demanding. The basketball culture isn't there.

You can build it if you throw some money and care at it.

But you can't have it if you don't. Period. That is not
on Tubby.


  

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93. "Low budget is no shock to anyone coming here."
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Is what it is. Has nothing to do with six straight seasons of the Gophs getting worse down the stretch and not improving. This years squad was the best talent wise with no different results. The are plenty of examples there of new blood changing the dynamics of a program. One in particular being a young cat by the name of Smart, Shaka. Nevermind the fact that our AD has a relationship with Smart because I don't think he's coming here, but the opportunity for the new guy to make a good decision is there and he's got a good enough track record for me. We shall see Bro ...

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96. "Question: Is the program in better shape than before he arrived?"
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The answer is unquestionably "yes."

Not even close.

He took a shithole and make it a respectable program. He did
it CLEAN with no fuss and had them competitive.

You are NOT fucking Kentucky or UCLA. Your fans don't care. You
didn't have the facilities.

You can't expect someone to come in to Minnesota and make it
North Carolina. There are NO glory days. There is NO legacy.

After a scandal, only a great coach could have legitimized the program,
stabilized the ship, especially with shithole facilities. Tubby did that.

New blood is FINE. Can't hate on that at all. NO problem with trying to
move in another direction.

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100. "Lol, what? No it's not."
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>
>The answer is unquestionably "yes."
>
>Not even close.

It's exactly the same Minnesota program as before. Underachieving, and an afterthought to most other B1G programs.




>He took a shithole and make it a respectable program. He did
>it CLEAN with no fuss and had them competitive.

Lol, it's not respectable now.


>You are NOT fucking Kentucky or UCLA. Your fans don't care.

wrong. they care. they just arent rabid like UK. Lol @ UCLA fans being diehard about anything. You see their attendance this year? Paltry.



>You can't expect someone to come in to Minnesota and make it
>North Carolina. There are NO glory days. There is NO legacy.

No one is expecting it to be UNC. At least be better than some of the MAC or MAAC teams though.




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101. "Not entirely sure why OE is speaking like he knows anything"
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about Minnesota, or the Big Ten in general.

He's a smart guy, but needs to fall back on this. He's trying to debate Minnesota with people who actually watch the Big Ten every day.

  

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110. "This is easy to settle: Pre-Tubby vs. Tubby"
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Pre
2000-2007 (7 seasons):

1 20 win season, 1 NCAA tournament appearance


Tubby
2007-2013 (6 seasons)

5 20 wins seasons
3 NCAA tournament appearances


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118. "http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/68992/ryan-nod.gif"
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http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/68992/ryan-nod.gif

  

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119. "LMAO"
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Dan Monson : Minnesota :: Tommy Amaker : Michigan

you're comparing tubby's years to the fallout of a massive scandal?

lol

  

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121. "^IF I COULD PLEEAAAA HIGGGHHEERRRR (c) g-L-oria Estefan"
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Nooooppppeee


Tubby BROUGHT THAT PROGRAM BACK


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122. "If Tubby went half as hard as OE is going in this post"
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he'd still have a job.


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123. "That's your answer to my statistics that fried everyone? "
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Oh, ok.

Yeah, y'all diverting and dancing around.

The numbers say it clearly:

Tubby changed the program for the better.

It was a shithole. Now its a solid-good program
good for 20 wins a season.

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127. "Man there are players on MAAC teams from Minnesota doin work"
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players that said NO to the gophers and went to smaller schools with less money, less bitches, less parties, less nightlife and less of a spotlight ....TO PLAY BASKETBALL.

ADs pay attention to those things, and recruiting is something Tubby admitted to growing tired of.

The only thing those stats showed me is that Minnesota is still the same program after Tubby. Maybe a little bit more mediocre..lol.

(46-62 in Big Ten play, never finished with a Big Ten record above .500 and finished in seventh place or worse four times in his six seasons.)

Do you remember how each those tournament appearances ended? With the Gophers getting embarrassed...


I wanted Tubby to do well in Minnesota. He lost control of the team and program and even threw players under the bus in public. Some of he players even went to twitter (like some bitches, admittedly) and whined.


Change gon come...oh yes it will.




>
>It was a shithole. Now its a solid-good program
>good for 20 wins a season.


LMAO. Ok, I'm through here.


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130. "Simple question: Are they better now than when he arrived? "
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Answer?

Yes.

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134. "Absolutely not. "
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Anyone who watches Big Ten basketball can tell you the same.


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135. "Hahah. You're a despicable fucking LIAR"
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That Minny is better is a FACT

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136. "RE: what? name a couple."
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Man there are players on MAAC teams from Minnesota doin work

Who the hell are you talking about? Pretty much everyone in the MAAC is from east of Philly.

Just making shit up to avoid the obvious point that Tubby Smith made Minnesota far better than it was before he got there.

And let's not pretend that Dan Monson wasn't a big prospect coming out of Gonzaga when he took that job and fell on his ass over and over.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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137. "My bad, I meant Summit League and Horizon leagues"
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>Just making shit up to avoid the obvious point that Tubby
>Smith made Minnesota far better than it was before he got
>there.


Nate Wolters

Kevin Noreen

Cole Steffen

Sanjay Lumpkin..

Cole Aldrich

Jon Leuer

Justin Stommes


just off the top (from the last 4 or 5 years that I can remember) some of the better Minnesota basketball players that all chose to go elsewhere....(some smaller programs, some bigger ones..but the point is Tubby couldn't recruit for shit within his state save for the occasional talent ie Mbakwe)


(46-62 in Big Ten play, never finished with a Big Ten record above .500 and finished in seventh place or worse four times in his six seasons.)



What the fuck is your idea of far better? Lol, please do tell.


>And let's not pretend that Dan Monson wasn't a big prospect
>coming out of Gonzaga when he took that job and fell on his
>ass over and over.


yea, and that's why he got his ass fired too. He was put in a tougher spot than Tubby because he had to deal with the immediate repercussions of all the NCAA shit from the Haskins era. He actually did a better job than Tubby lol.


I have never my entire life discussed Minnesota basketball this much lol
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138. "man, i don't even follow gophers bball"
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>Pre
>2000-2007 (7 seasons):
>
>1 20 win season, 1 NCAA tournament appearance
>
>
>Tubby
>2007-2013 (6 seasons)
>
>5 20 wins seasons
>3 NCAA tournament appearances

but you just don't know what you're talking about.

dan monson
overall: 118-106 (.527)
big 10: 44-68 (.393) with two winning seasons, a top half (4th) finish and an average place of 7th.
NCAA: one appearance, 1st round exit

tubby smith
overall: 124-81 (.605)
big 10: 42-62 (.426) with NO winning seasons, NO top half finishes and an average place of 7th
NCAA: three appearances, two first round exits and one second round exit.

i don't think any rational gophers bball fan is looking for them to become UNC or UCLA or whatever. they just want them to actually compete in the B10, possibly for a championship and make some deep tourney runs. basically, they want to be wisconsin.

to do that:
1. practice facility
2. recruiting an amazing -- by MN standards -- crop of instate talent
3. improve the players you do land outside the top talent

the first is a big problem and i'm unsure whether then UMN president/AD understand this limitation. i assume maturi did not, but teague should and i will assume again he intends to rectify this major recruiting hole. speaking of recruiting, tubby wasn't doing a very good job. he got some pieces, but consistently missed on instate recruits who are now good to key players in "lesser" programs or had others, like royce white, transfer out to find success elsewhere. further, there is a bumper crop of talent in the state this year and next and none, from what i read, are seriously considering UMN. that's a problem for the future of the program. i think landing jones is pipe dream regardless, but to not land one or two of these players would be a problem for the future of the program. last, the players were not improving or responding to tubby's coaching. i wasn't paying close attention during the early part of his time here, but the last few years saw the same story -- gophers strong at the start, meltdown in the B10, struggle to the NCAAs and quick exit -- with tubby constantly tossing his players under the bus.

all of this has been mentioned throughout the thread. the pedigree tubby brought to the program did not present itself. would it have with a practice facility? don't know. just don't think you can gloss over records with "facts" and not consider everything.

oh, and everyone is talking about no tradition in MN hoops. true, but clem had them competitive -- by cheating -- and so did musselman well before him -- by cheating. i think a lot MN bball fans cling to those memories even though they didn't technically "happen".

can't believe i've written so much about fucking gophers bball. guess i listen to too much KFAN.

that all said, on wisconsin!

  

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139. "RE: man, i don't even follow gophers bball"
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neither do some of these schmucks, but that hasn't kept them from clicking on this post and typing some dumb shit...

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132. "Thanks Guru for handling that one. SMH.."
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BTW, where are the Tubby defenders when it specifically comes to the coaching job he did this year with this team?

There is nothing to defend. All we hear about is "Who do you minnesotans think you are?"

We think we have a right to look for a better coach than we currently have after this season. One who won't have six straight losing months of Feb for starters. No winning seasons in Big 10 play, and who uses WE all the time. Not THEY when it's a bad loss. Like I said y'all not up here, there is no one defending the job he has done this year ON THE COURT.

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133. "LOL -- answer the question"
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89. "I hope they get Flip Saunders. So they can beg for mediocre."
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94. "Flip is the home run choice. "
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A native guy who is NBA recognizable to HS kids coast to coast. Thing is, most folks think he's just waiting out another NBA job. To me he's a bad NBA coach. His personality is a bad match with grown men. In college the coach is king. It would be a win win to me, but I doubt it will happen.

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97. "RealBillyOcean was joking"
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And I hope you are.

A continued failure of an NBA coach is not recognizable
to college kids. College kids want a guy who puts talent
into the NBA, not an NBA throwaway.

I'm not shitting on Flip Saunders, but if you're saying that he
qualifies as a "home run" choice, then that tells me everything
I need to know about why is hard to win there. You guys know
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82. "RE: That blows"
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>I wonder how good the Gophers think they're supposed to be.

I think it's more about who is/ has been/ and will be on the team. It's not just getting bounced, but watching players who left the program because Tubby didn't have room for them start and contribute to tournament teams. Justin Cobbs looked great for Cal. Colton Iverson was Colorado States leading scorer. Nate Wolters is an in state kid who Tubby didn't even bother to recruit, and will probably get drafted earlier than any player Tubby ever had. All the while, Mbakwe keeps getting in trouble with women. But, most importantly, the greatest collection of in state talent ever wasn't even looking at the program. Sure, the Gophers over value where their program is at and where they should be, but they need to at least try to give Jones, Vaughn, and Travis something to stay home for, otherwise they'd just be cementing that what they are now is what they will always be.

  

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86. "Myron Medcalf giving an A+ rant on Twitter."
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@MedcalfByESPN: When Tubby took the job, Joel Maturi promised him a practice facility on the flight to Minneapolis. That was 2007. Not one shovel in ground.

@MedcalfByESPN: Teenagers don't care about the "nostalgia" of Williams Arena. It's an old building that's what they see.

@MedcalfByESPN: If Gophers don't build it, they will NEVER come. Program needs a facilities upgrade. Yesterday.

@MedcalfByESPN: Only reason you take this Gophers job is if you like money. And a lot of people do. If you want to build, go elsewhere. Not Minneapolis.

@MedcalfByESPN: The Gophers need so many additional resources to compete with the best teams in the Big Ten and the country. Limited investment.

@MedcalfByESPN: Fans will tell you that they love Gophers basketball. The diehards? Yes. Casual fans just pick the hottest of the four pro teams/college FB.

@MedcalfByESPN: You can get lost in Minneapolis. When the Gophers are good, everyone cares. When they're not, they go away. That's just how it is.

@MedcalfByESPN: I've covered multiple pregame MN press events solo. Not one TV camera. Not one other reporter. Just me. Why? Folks don't care that much.

@MedcalfByESPN: That's the truth. Gophers need to invest a lot of money to right the ship. I'm gone. Feel free to disagree.

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95. "Supposedly theyve offered Shaka 3 mill"
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If I were Shaka Id stay far far away (so long as he can get an equal or close paying job of course --cause that 3 million is nuts).


But yea id look at what happened to Tubby, look at the facilities, the cold ass weather, the lack of a tradition. Minnesota has some home grown talent but not like other places he could be.


Seems like old VCU AD using his connect and trying to catch Shaka early before other schools settle in. Wonder if Shaka stays patient or if this forces UCLA to make a play earlier than they want (trying to wait out for Pitino or Billy D. Interesting to say the least.

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98. "Nobody really knows what Shaka is waiting for. "
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I mean, NC State or Ilinois were verrrrry good jobs

Seems to me that he wouldn't turn down either of those for
Minnesota, but maybe the personal connection is meaningful

Logic says that you only turn down NC State and Illinois for one
of the big guns (UCLA, Duke, Kentucky, Indiana, UNC, Kansas)

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102. "I really wonder if some of these guys will just stay put for a decade..."
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... and then campaign for the Duke job. Or the UNC job, really.

Everyone assumes it'll be an in-house guy, and that honestly does seem likely... but I'm hard-pressed to believe if Brad Stevens was still at Butler or Shaka Smart was still at VCU that Duke boosters wouldn't choose one of them over an un-battle-tested Wojo.

I definitely feels like there's a specific job they want. And they feel like they're in the advantageous position of being able to simply wait it out.

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107. "How sure are we that Shaka or Brad would be successful anywhere?"
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I mean Anthony Grant went to Bama and hasnt really been able to flip things around there.

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128. "We're not. They're not slam dunks."
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But they are good in-game coaches, who win games with the guys they have. At a big name school with a winning tradition, I'm sure they would have the highest percentage possibility of spinning off 30 years of winning seasons.

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131. "Stevens would have to revamp his style at a big school"
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the way he does things now would scare off a LOT of big time recruits. A lot. He'd definitely have to revamp his style.

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140. "Greg Hicks from BRO on Stevens"
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rad Stevens is indicating privately for the first time that he is seriously entertaining the idea of leaving Butler, according to sources.

We’re hearing that the possibility of the UCLA open coaching position has Stevens considering a move.
8:55 PM
Stevens, the Butler head coach who is recognized as probably the top young, up-and-coming coach in the country, has been approached by different programs in the last several years but has never expressed legitimate interest in leaving Butler to take another job.

Stevens’ Butler squad lost in the second round of the NCAA Tournament to Marquette, and unlike the other two top targets on UCLA’s list, Florida’s Billy Donovan and Louisville’s Rick Pitino, Stevens is free to listen to overtures and negotiate with other programs.

We are unaware of any contact directly between UCLA and Stevens.rad Stevens is indicating privately for the first time that he is seriously entertaining the idea of leaving Butler, according to sources.

We’re hearing that the possibility of the UCLA open coaching position has Stevens considering a move.
8:55 PM
Stevens, the Butler head coach who is recognized as probably the top young, up-and-coming coach in the country, has been approached by different programs in the last several years but has never expressed legitimate interest in leaving Butler to take another job.

Stevens’ Butler squad lost in the second round of the NCAA Tournament to Marquette, and unlike the other two top targets on UCLA’s list, Florida’s Billy Donovan and Louisville’s Rick Pitino, Stevens is free to listen to overtures and negotiate with other programs.

We are unaware of any contact directly between UCLA and Stevens.

Of course, Stevens showing interest in the UCLA job is a long way from the coach actually making the decision to leave Butler and sign with UCLA, but those sources close to him can’t underscore enough that, for the reserved Stevens, this is unprecedented behavior.

Brad Stevens is probably the leading young coach in college basketball today. Here's why, in detail, he'd be a good fit as UCLA's next head coach...

The case for Brad Stevens to be the next coach at UCLA is pretty easy to make. He’s gone to two NCAA tournament finals at Butler (think about that for a moment) and he did it without cheating (an incredible feat in this day and age). He’s 36 years old, regarded by his peers as one of the brilliant coaching minds in the game and he espouses a set of values for his team (the “Butler Way”) that could have been written by John Wooden. Slam dunk, right? Well, Tracy said this piece needed to be more than a paragraph, so I’ll go on.

Like Shaka Smart, Stevens is unusually bright for a basketball coach. He attended DePauw University where he majored in economics and was a three-time Academic All-America nominee. He was working at Eli Lilly and Company when he decided he was going to pursue coaching as a career. He joined the Butler staff in 2000 as a volunteer and was promoted to assistant in 2001. He became the head coach in 2007 and won 30 games his first season, becoming the third-youngest head coach in NCAA history to win 30 games. In that first season in 2007-2008, Butler went 16-2 in the Horizon League, won the conference tournament and lost to #2 seed Tennessee in the second round of the NCAA tournament. Stevens was a finalist for the Jim Phelan National Coach of the Year.

here's your question

and mine too

The question that many people have had about Stevens is whether or not his style would be successful in Westwood. Does it translate when you’re talking about a different breed of player in Southern California? My feeling is that he wouldn’t use the exact same methods at UCLA that he used at Butler. He’s such a bright guy, on the cutting edge of the game, that it’s reasonable to assume he would modify his system to take advantage of the higher level of talent available to him at UCLA. A guy that’s using advanced statistical analysis is probably going to realize that he doesn’t want to play fewer possession games when he has the superior talent and athleticism. That’s not to say that he’s going to start playing at the same pace as VCU (although anything is possible). But I think it’s very likely that he’d try to find the optimal style of play given the talent available to him. So, for me, the whole question of style of play, does it translate, etc., is not a real issue. Stevens is not only a great coach, he’s a really smart coach – he would figure out how to use his talent at UCLA.


The real question for me is how difficult would the recruiting adjustment be for him. The kids he’s recruited at Butler, and the families he’s been dealing with, are nothing like what he’d be dealing with at UCLA. The Southern California AAU scene is an absolute mess, for a number of reasons. There are whacked out club coaches, crazy parents and hangers on, entitled (but talented) kids…the whole scene is like nothing Stevens has encountered before. The AAU teams he did have to deal with at Butler are nothing like what we have in Southern California and some other parts of the west. Again, since Stevens is obviously a very bright guy, my assumption is he would figure out pretty quickly how to navigate the waters out here. I think his youth is also an advantage when it comes to dealing with a brand new situation. It’s not like Bobby Knight coming out to L.A. and having to change his approach. But there is no question that recruiting at the elite, high major level is a very different experience than recruiting at the mid-major level.

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103. "I don't know precisely what college basketball coaches prioritize"
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But the University of Minnesota is in a real city. I assume that's worth something.

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104. "money and fame"
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105. ""I'm headed to Lawrence, KS to find money and fame""
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This is not a sentence that has likely been uttered in other professions.

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106. "Self and Calipari probably write the state laws"
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in Kansas and Kentucky.

  

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108. "You obviously dont understand the makeup of CBB"
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That's one of the most storied and historic basketball programs in the country.

If you're a CBB coach, that's the pinnacle of success.
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109. "walleye's point still stands though"
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what the fuck is one to do in Kansas or Kentucky? Why not take another high-paying job in a better city? Because Kansas and Kentucky have sexual slaves ready for whoever takes the job?

  

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111. "3.5 million a year can get you a lot of things to do...."
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>what the fuck is one to do in Kansas or Kentucky? Why not
>take another high-paying job in a better city?

Like what? Most elite CBB programs are in COLLEGE TOWNS. Imagine that.



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113. "I'd rather have 3 mil in Minneapolis than 3.5 in the middle of nowhere"
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112. "Umm. You just got on me for not watching the Big 10"
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And now you're cosigning Walleye on a point he made
about the size of a city, which has absolutely nothing
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115. "You're right...these people are robots with no personal lives"
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They go to the gym 24/7 365 and never do anything for enjoyment.

Walleye was making a point about being a human being and wanting to live in a better city. But I suppose most of these coaches literally have no life and are cool with just chilling in bumfuck, Kansas.

  

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117. "But it could have something to do with a job search"
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>And now you're cosigning Walleye on a point he made
>about the size of a city, which has absolutely nothing
>to do with college basketball or coaching

That was a point which I couldn't have possibly qualified anymore without immolating myself for mine own ignorance.

I'm reading this thread because it has a local interest to me and it seemed like an impressively vast array of things which could or could not compel a coach to head to Minneapolis has already come up in conversation.

When we got all the way around to "might have a prior relationship with the AD," it seemed worth pointing out that, unlike a lot of other jobs, the Gophers play in a great American city offering the apparently rare opportunity of a social environment that doesn't lean entirely on the local university. It's also a great place to raise the family.

If we're not that far down the rabbit hole yet, then feel free to ignore me.

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120. "Seems like you were making sure people ain't shit on Minny"
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Which is fine to me. Minneapolis is a great
city.

But that happens to not be relevant here.

If it was relevant, than Kentucky would not
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125. "That's precisely what I'm doing here"
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I didn't think Minneapolis' obvious excellence as a place to live and raise a family mattered. Then I read somebody talk about the weather and what could be a trivial connection between Teague and Smart and figured it was relevant. The latter one is a mystery. The weather thing just sucks.

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114. ""not... likely been uttered in other professions""
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I realize that sentence went a bit sidewise, but I think it's pretty clear that while I understand Jayhawks basketball is an extremely big deal, Lawrence isn't a very common "now I've really made it" location in the American success story.

Since your weirdly uncharitable reading of a kind of throwaway observation has made me slightly grumpy, I'd like to go a step further and say that finding yourself desperately wanting something located in Kansas is a sure sign that you want the wrong thing. Because Kansas is stupid.

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116. "LOL"
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>Since your weirdly uncharitable reading of a kind of throwaway
>observation has made me slightly grumpy, I'd like to go a step
>further and say that finding yourself desperately wanting
>something located in Kansas is a sure sign that you want the
>wrong thing. Because Kansas is stupid.

Never been, can't say. The furthest Midwest I've been was Minnesota & Iowa.
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Bombastic
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124. "Iowa is horrible as far as I can tell. "
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>
>>Since your weirdly uncharitable reading of a kind of
>throwaway
>>observation has made me slightly grumpy, I'd like to go a
>step
>>further and say that finding yourself desperately wanting
>>something located in Kansas is a sure sign that you want the
>>wrong thing. Because Kansas is stupid.
>
>Never been, can't say. The furthest Midwest I've been was
>Minnesota & Iowa.
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>>The percentage who don't understand
>>is higher than the percentage who do
>>Check yourself, what percentage is you

  

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126. "That's the difference between American success and CBB success."
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>I realize that sentence went a bit sidewise, but I think it's
>pretty clear that while I understand Jayhawks basketball is an
>extremely big deal, Lawrence isn't a very common "now I've
>really made it" location in the American success story.
>
>Since your weirdly uncharitable reading of a kind of throwaway
>observation has made me slightly grumpy, I'd like to go a step
>further and say that finding yourself desperately wanting
>something located in Kansas is a sure sign that you want the
>wrong thing. Because Kansas is stupid.

Lawrence and Kansas in general are stupid, but in terms of CBB prestige, it's top ten. The best recruits from all over, from much better cities, consider going there due to its prestige and tradition. The coaches who coach there generally get bigger paychecks, larger benefits from boosters, and more lucrative advertising/self-marketing (heh) deals nationwide.

I'd rather be in LA than Lawrence, Durham, Chapel Hill, Lexington, etc... but that doesn't mean I'd take a job at Loyola Marymount if I'm a college basketball coach looking for the prestige and tradition and general winning formula.

This is all a very roundabout way of answering your direct question, which ws why would coaches not consider living in a better city as part of the job they're taking. I'm sure they absolutely would, as anyone taking a job would. But since they'd spend most of their lives in those cities within the basketball facilities, and Minnesota has proven they are unwilling to update their outdated basketball facilities, a coach more interested in big-time recruits and a winning program is more likely to go elsewhere.

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129. "ack"
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Tue Mar-26-13 02:08 PM by Walleye

          

>This is all a very roundabout way of answering your direct
>question

Actually, that was a way confirming my pretty bland observation, that among jobs, "college basketball coach" has an idiosyncratic success structure.

>I'm sure they
>absolutely would, as anyone taking a job would. But since
>they'd spend most of their lives in those cities within the
>basketball facilities, and Minnesota has proven they are
>unwilling to update their outdated basketball facilities, a
>coach more interested in big-time recruits and a winning
>program is more likely to go elsewhere.

This answered my question, though. Thanks.

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141. "Tubby To Texas Tech!"
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9121347/texas-tech-red-raiders-reportedly-hires-tubby-smith

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