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Y2Flound
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"Crazy Murder/Suicide story breaking out of Chiefs facilities"
Sat Dec-01-12 09:38 AM by Y2Flound

  

          

Still very little info

Started with a Jay glazer tweet

Scary situation in KC right now as a player and another person have been shot at the Chiefs facility. Don't want to reveal player until his family knows

A tweet from a Kansas City Star writer said Our news partner ch. 5 reporting #Chiefs player apparently killed his girlfriend and then himself this morning. Details to come.

I'm seeing unconfirmed tweets that it was Jovan Belcher who shot his girlfriend and himself, but nobody of any verification is naming names until things are "triple confirmed" as Glazer said

Scary and terrible situation
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Subject Author Message Date ID
Link with still little details
Dec 01st 2012
1
Shot his GF then drove to the facility to shoot himself...
Dec 01st 2012
2
I don't see a Brandon Belcher on their roster. Is it Jovan?
Dec 01st 2012
3
Yes, I got distracted. Edited
Dec 01st 2012
4
Nobody will confirm the name but lots of reports all say the same thing
Dec 01st 2012
5
damn. horrible news, esp for the GF
Dec 01st 2012
6
wow...R.I.P.
Dec 01st 2012
7
police are saying a 25 year old, so it seems like IT IS jovan belcher
Dec 01st 2012
8
My God, Wiki already has his death. who does this shit?
Dec 01st 2012
9
Horrible people, that's who.
Dec 01st 2012
11
The same people who rush to type "FIRST!"...
Dec 01st 2012
13
what's the issue there?!
Dec 01st 2012
67
typically they'll list the death and then lock it from being edited
Dec 01st 2012
77
They already have Rick Majerus death too
Dec 01st 2012
84
      prolly had that ready to roll though, he'd been close for almost a week
Dec 03rd 2012
106
This is sad and crazy.....
Dec 01st 2012
10
Holy shit. Prayers to both their families man
Dec 01st 2012
12
supposedly, he shot himself in the parking lot of arrowhead stadium
Dec 01st 2012
14
Damn damn damn thoughts to those families
Dec 01st 2012
15
Jesus, apparently he killed himself in front of Crennel and Pioli
Dec 01st 2012
16
I have not seen that anywhere reliable yet
Dec 01st 2012
21
Police reported it, go to kansascity.com.....
Dec 01st 2012
23
      my, goodness
Dec 01st 2012
27
Jesus
Dec 01st 2012
34
RIP, just tragic
Dec 01st 2012
17
Damn and nfl still had car fly to arrowhead
Dec 01st 2012
18
They don't give a shit.....
Dec 01st 2012
19
uh yeah.
Dec 01st 2012
20
No way they play it
Dec 01st 2012
25
they'll play...with some RIP patches on their unis or some shit
Dec 01st 2012
28
^
Dec 01st 2012
43
If I was a teammate of a nigga who did sucide AND murder of baby moms
Dec 01st 2012
60
      moreso the murder than the suicide but yeah
Dec 01st 2012
74
they're gonna play.... if he did tht in front of Romeo...
Dec 01st 2012
29
i bet they play it, postponement would be pointless
Dec 01st 2012
33
If they play it I'm done with the NFL for good.
Dec 01st 2012
35
holla back then.
Dec 01st 2012
37
(says the NFL)
Dec 01st 2012
38
lol
Dec 01st 2012
49
"To the extent that one man's voice matters." <- no, not anymore
Dec 01st 2012
63
The game will be played
Dec 01st 2012
45
      chiefs should give paid leave to anyone who wants it though
Dec 01st 2012
87
rip..wonder if it was one of them carruth situations..
Dec 01st 2012
22
not possible.
Dec 01st 2012
39
where the guy is a controlling abusive shithead? yes, i would say so
Dec 01st 2012
51
link from kansascity.com......
Dec 01st 2012
24
Oh my
Dec 01st 2012
26
Damn, this is sad
Dec 01st 2012
30
crazy shit...
Dec 01st 2012
31
Jesus fucking Christ, what a disaster
Dec 01st 2012
32
He shot his GF in front of his mom? What provoked this?
Dec 01st 2012
36
I thought I read her mom
Dec 01st 2012
42
      nah...it was his own mother
Dec 01st 2012
44
      the police spokesman said it was her mother....
Dec 01st 2012
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      it's weird they say his mom was there but that her mom called the cops
Dec 01st 2012
46
Yo, WTF???
Dec 01st 2012
40
Honestly, Fuck This Dude Man
Dec 01st 2012
41
yeah it's pretty selfish, but obviously this dude had to have some issue...
Dec 01st 2012
48
You could say that for EVERYONE who has ever done something bad
Dec 01st 2012
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      But you see a lot of this specifically with athletes, a lot of times the...
Dec 01st 2012
54
      why go there?
Dec 01st 2012
90
      I don't understand this. Why can't you just be sad?
Dec 01st 2012
57
           sad is for mishaps, misunderstandings, etc.
Dec 01st 2012
85
                You all think anger makes you more caring. WRONG.
Dec 03rd 2012
100
                     That is a cute "Sweet Hereafter" type of mentality
Dec 03rd 2012
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                          Aren't you a tough, red-blooded alpha male!
Dec 03rd 2012
108
                               Not all that much, to be honest
Dec 03rd 2012
113
the more i read, the more i despise him
Dec 01st 2012
50
RE: the more i read, the more i despise him
Dec 01st 2012
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^^^^
Dec 01st 2012
55
In the GD thread there is a Star swipe that says it was over a concert =...
Dec 01st 2012
52
Damn...Over Some Bullshit
Dec 01st 2012
56
      maybe understand isnt the right word but i feel you, i mean it is a triv...
Dec 01st 2012
88
Unspeakably sad. What a troubled life. RIP.
Dec 01st 2012
58
Game better go on as scheduled, fuck that bitchass fuck nigga
Dec 01st 2012
59
damn if Romeo wasn't already drained, he has to be completely now
Dec 01st 2012
62
NFL gets a pass, again....
Dec 01st 2012
64
WHAT.THE.FUCK did you just type?
Dec 01st 2012
65
      okp is lunchin' off this one-
Dec 01st 2012
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      RE: WHAT.THE.FUCK did you just type?
Dec 01st 2012
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           that's entirely a different issue
Dec 01st 2012
70
                RE: that's entirely a different issue
Dec 01st 2012
71
                     that's just CISM
Dec 01st 2012
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                          RE: that's just CISM
Dec 01st 2012
75
                          Uh, the suicides in hockey last summer led to DIRECT changes in ...
Dec 01st 2012
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i just added the chiefs def-
Dec 01st 2012
68
Cuz their murderer teammate isn't playing?
Dec 01st 2012
73
fallen soldier.
Dec 01st 2012
78
RE: i just added the chiefs def-
Dec 01st 2012
76
RE: Really, dog?
Dec 01st 2012
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      RE: Really, dog?
Dec 01st 2012
80
I don't see it...
Dec 01st 2012
81
cool story, bro!
Dec 01st 2012
82
even COOLER response!
Dec 02nd 2012
94
      there was ONE response that was completely inappropriate
Dec 02nd 2012
96
           that's your opinion, dickhead.
Dec 02nd 2012
97
           two full threads-
Dec 02nd 2012
98
Nothing more inspiring then a teammate who left his child an orphan..
Dec 01st 2012
83
Do the Chiefs put RIP patches on their uniforms?
Dec 01st 2012
89
no and defintiely not tomorrow
Dec 01st 2012
91
fuck no! but they should have a moment for the girl
Dec 01st 2012
92
They are going to bury this 20 feet deep from a PR standpoint
Dec 01st 2012
93
good write up on the situation & decision to play
Dec 02nd 2012
95
"I love you, bro" - Belcher to Pioli
Dec 03rd 2012
99
damn on one hand it means something to be the person
Dec 03rd 2012
103
man. Romeo and 'em had to see that shit?
Dec 03rd 2012
101
Apparently she was the cousin of Jamaal Charles' wife who introduced...
Dec 03rd 2012
102
oh wow. painkillers + alcohol + family drama + concussions +
Dec 03rd 2012
104
      no doubt, the whole situation is beyond crazy...
Dec 03rd 2012
105
SI.com: Belcher was out with another woman prior to murder-suicide?
Dec 03rd 2012
109
did the chicks that let him stay know him??
Dec 03rd 2012
110
      actually it doesn't really say they were "chicks" but I'm sure they....
Dec 03rd 2012
111
           good point...and dude was drunk??? they betta been diehard chief fans
Dec 03rd 2012
112
cte.
Sep 29th 2014
114
im hoping this doesn't get buried under the domestic violence
Sep 30th 2014
115
It doesn't excuse actions but it does give us a thing to work and preven...
Sep 30th 2014
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      Well, no, it actually makes it completely different.
Sep 30th 2014
118
           No, it adds a caveat, it doesn't make it completely different
Sep 30th 2014
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           LMAO. Was CTE a "caveat" in Junior Seau's suicide?
Sep 30th 2014
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                No I'm not, you're just looking for a fight
Sep 30th 2014
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                     LOL -- you're still defending Goodell.
Sep 30th 2014
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                          I didn't say any of that, we're done talking
Sep 30th 2014
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           those connections, as of today, dont exist AFAIK
Sep 30th 2014
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I assume the results pertain to his family's lawsuit
Sep 30th 2014
116
damn...just watched the E-60 on Jamal Charles....
Sep 30th 2014
125

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1. "Link with still little details"
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http://www.kctv5.com/story/20234680/police-chiefs-players-kills-girlfriend-then-kills-self#.ULoi6db3XsM.twitter

KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -
Police are investigating two deadly shootings Saturday morning that they said are related.

The shootings involve a Chiefs player and his girlfriend.

The first shooting was reported about 8 a.m. at a home near 54th Street and Chrysler Avenue. The second shooting was reported a short time later at a Chiefs practice facility located on the Arrowhead facility.

Officials said the Chiefs player shot and killed his girlfriend and then drove to the practice facility where he shot and killed himself.

It's unknown if people were at Arrowhead or any of its surrounding facilities at the time.

Refresh this page for updates on this developing story.
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2. "Shot his GF then drove to the facility to shoot himself..."
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That makes you think other people were present and he wanted it to be in front of them.
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3. "I don't see a Brandon Belcher on their roster. Is it Jovan? "
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4. "Yes, I got distracted. Edited"
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5. "Nobody will confirm the name but lots of reports all say the same thing"
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6. "damn. horrible news, esp for the GF"
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7. "wow...R.I.P. "
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8. "police are saying a 25 year old, so it seems like IT IS jovan belcher"
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9. "My God, Wiki already has his death. who does this shit?"
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11. "Horrible people, that's who."
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13. "The same people who rush to type "FIRST!"..."
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in the comments section of any article or blog post.....



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67. "what's the issue there?!"
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it's fucking news!

  

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77. "typically they'll list the death and then lock it from being edited"
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84. "They already have Rick Majerus death too"
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106. "prolly had that ready to roll though, he'd been close for almost a week"
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prolly was expected to live a little longer but not much

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10. "This is sad and crazy....."
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Just found out about this.....



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12. "Holy shit. Prayers to both their families man"
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14. "supposedly, he shot himself in the parking lot of arrowhead stadium"
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15. "Damn damn damn thoughts to those families"
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situations like these don't leave much opportunity for closure.

shame to lose a loved one like that.

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16. "Jesus, apparently he killed himself in front of Crennel and Pioli"
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*Jews you*

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21. "I have not seen that anywhere reliable yet"
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Just seen random people spread it around twitter with nobody with any credentials saying that.
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23. "Police reported it, go to kansascity.com....."
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Its on the front page.....



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27. "my, goodness"
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34. "Jesus"
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17. "RIP, just tragic"
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18. "Damn and nfl still had car fly to arrowhead"
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Can we really see them playing this shit?


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19. "They don't give a shit....."
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20. "uh yeah."
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25. "No way they play it"
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But it makes sense they fly out Carolina just in case. Its just a plane trip and its too early to unilaterally cancel the game at this hour.
But no, it happens the day before the game, at the stadium, the GM and the head coach see it happen........both teams happen to be awful....

According to NFL rules, the Chiefs forfeit the game and the other team is willing and able to play, the Panthers win the game 2-0.

  

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28. "they'll play...with some RIP patches on their unis or some shit"
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it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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43. "^"
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60. "If I was a teammate of a nigga who did sucide AND murder of baby moms"
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...I'd decline the shit outta that RIP patch

  

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74. "moreso the murder than the suicide but yeah"
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if i had a teammate that committed suicide, id rock an RIP patch, but murder/suicide? nah

*Jews you*

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29. "they're gonna play.... if he did tht in front of Romeo..."
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not sure he'll be on the sidelines..

but they are gonna play.

  

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33. "i bet they play it, postponement would be pointless"
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kc will probably have guys out on their roster and staff. maybe if it was an important game they could try and work it out with the league, but they will just play some halfassed contest between two lame duck teams and keep it moving as it is.

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35. "If they play it I'm done with the NFL for good."
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To the extent that one man's voice matters.

  

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37. "holla back then."
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-and don't be so naive & selfish in your love of other organized sports.

  

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38. "(says the NFL)"
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49. "lol"
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63. ""To the extent that one man's voice matters." <- no, not anymore"
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I mean, he did silence himself

  

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45. "The game will be played"
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and Panthers/Chiefs will be upgraded to high pri game on CBS...

It was near the bottom but now, it'll go a little higher due to the circumstances...

The Chiefs will play motivated as hell tomorrow...even with the circumstances...


That is a heartless person to kill his girl and then decide to kill himself...cowardly move in my book...

  

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87. "chiefs should give paid leave to anyone who wants it though"
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crennel doesnt seem like the kind of guy who would request (tough as nails) but if he or anyone else does, of course they should grant it. let this be handled in house and handled right.

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22. "rip..wonder if it was one of them carruth situations.."
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39. "not possible."
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we weren't lucky enough to have rayray suck his pistol.

  

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51. "where the guy is a controlling abusive shithead? yes, i would say so"
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24. "link from kansascity.com......"
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http://m.kansascity.com/kcstar/db_41535/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=aahCf9F8


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26. "Oh my"
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---------------------------------
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"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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30. "Damn, this is sad"
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31. "crazy shit..."
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32. "Jesus fucking Christ, what a disaster"
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36. "He shot his GF in front of his mom? What provoked this?"
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Plus they had a 3 month old baby?

Crazy and sad all the way around. Lots of victims in this.

  

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42. "I thought I read her mom"
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>Plus they had a 3 month old baby?
>
>Crazy and sad all the way around. Lots of victims in this.

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44. "nah...it was his own mother"
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it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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47. "the police spokesman said it was her mother...."
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he said...

the woman told police when they pulled up that "her daughter had been shot"

  

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46. "it's weird they say his mom was there but that her mom called the cops"
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so maybe they were both present.

Horrible.

  

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40. "Yo, WTF???"
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This is some crazy shit. RIP

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41. "Honestly, Fuck This Dude Man"
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Shit touches a personal nerve for me...so if it's too harsh, too soon or whatever so be it
Bottom line dude killed his GF and couldn't do the time so killed himself, in front of some of his coaches.

Shit takes me back to what happened to McNair, which took me back to something that happened to a personal friend of mine.

  

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48. "yeah it's pretty selfish, but obviously this dude had to have some issue..."
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that had been overlooked or had not been addressed

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53. "You could say that for EVERYONE who has ever done something bad"
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>that had been overlooked or had not been addressed

Personally I have no desire to be understanding in this instance.

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54. "But you see a lot of this specifically with athletes, a lot of times the..."
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a lot of glaring red flags that are overlooked by coaches, teammates, family, friends etc., just because somebody is talented or somebody may see them as a meal ticket and ignore the signs that someone needs help or is dangerous.

Not saying that was necessarily the situation here because we don't yet but if it was and someone had addressed it sooner what happened this morning might have been avoided.

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90. "why go there?"
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the only thing we know about this dude is that he was an undrafted free agent who worked his way up to starter.

given that, if he'd ever pulled anything while climbing the ladder, he would not be on the team, period.

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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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57. "I don't understand this. Why can't you just be sad? "
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Just be sad at the senseless loss of life

Not sure why all this anger makes y'all feel better

Its pretty likely that dude is a super weak bitch who deserves
to burn in hell

I don't know that for a fact, tho, so I'd rather just be sad at the loss
of life

That is really the story, and is true regardless of the circumstances


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85. "sad is for mishaps, misunderstandings, etc. "
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i'm not angry *at* a dead man but he sure is fuck to blame for what happened here and it's something that affected his wife, his kid, her family, his family, crennel and a lot of other people's family.

this guy created death and pain today. why are we looking to absolve him or just say "aw, what a sad situation?" it is a sad situation because he made it a sad situation.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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100. "You all think anger makes you more caring. WRONG. "
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Its just makes you childish and bitch-like emotionally

Deal with tragedy like a MAN

Be sad for the dead and for senseless violence of which
this case is but ONE of THOUSANDS this year

Seems to me like this dude was off, have a hard time putting
him in the same category as a Rae Carruth

Mental illness is a very real thing, many victims of mental illness
are authors of senseless acts of violence

Doesn't make it right, of course. Doesn't mean we can't be mad

But using anger as a crutch is dumb

So in the absence of knowing any better, I just grieve for the loss
of life

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107. "That is a cute "Sweet Hereafter" type of mentality"
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That I'd normally agree with enthusiastically.

But it doesn't apply here.

Sorry.

I also don't fashion my emotions out of what others think, I just feel.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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108. "Aren't you a tough, red-blooded alpha male! "
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Honestly, though:

Would it shock you if his brain came back with evidence
of CTE, same evidence that's led to bizarre, shockingly
violent behavior in athletes in lots of contact sports?

Even a bit of that, AND alcoholism

AND other addiction problems

Would this change your perspective at all, or are you just
Mr. Tough justice regardless if cats have fucked Limbic
systems?

Just curious




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113. "Not all that much, to be honest"
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I obviously read the Deadspin piece this morning. I've known plenty of drunks, people who've had relationship problems and I know a number of guys with concussion problems a lot more serious than these. None of them are doing life for killing their girlfriends or wives.

You can come in here with some more absurd grandstanding, feel free. I couldn't give a fuck less what you think. And I don't have to "deal" with this tragedy, fortunately. If I knew the people involved and I were speaking to them, obviously I would not say these things.

But I would still think them. There's no absolving or mitigating here. You're responsible for your actions, drunk or sober. If your behavior is affected by head trauma, what the fuck are you doing with a loaded weapon within reaching distance?

This guy is responsible for his own undoing and worse yet he dragged people with him. You need to lecture him on being a man, not me.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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50. "the more i read, the more i despise him"
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sounds like a wife beating ass bitch, the kind of punk that gives a bad name to a lot of good dudes.

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61. "RE: the more i read, the more i despise him"
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So true....

That poor woman....RIP...

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55. "^^^^"
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52. "In the GD thread there is a Star swipe that says it was over a concert =..."
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talking about she stayed out til 1AM to see trey songz or some shit

not that there would have been any *good* reason to kill the mother of your infant, but that is just beyond bullshit.

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56. "Damn...Over Some Bullshit"
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I can ALMOST understand if she was cheating ...but over that?
Fuck this dude

  

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88. "maybe understand isnt the right word but i feel you, i mean it is a triv..."
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thing and even if there was some undercurrent (obviously there was) you size up the situation with one (or both, i'm still confused) of the mothers there, the kid being so young, etc ... there is just no valid excuse and this one is insanely flimsy.

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58. "Unspeakably sad. What a troubled life. RIP."
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59. "Game better go on as scheduled, fuck that bitchass fuck nigga"
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62. "damn if Romeo wasn't already drained, he has to be completely now"
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To witness what he witnessed on top of everything else, he might be ready to sit out a year.

  

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64. "NFL gets a pass, again...."
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RIP to that woman....what a sickening, tragic story...That dude was a fucking coward...He didn't deserve to breath....

But on the real...The interesting thing about being a HUGE NFL and NBA fan is you are able to call bullshit with the some of the past criticism of professional basketball...

I remember all of the bullshit talk about the NBA being a thug, criminal league...All the talk about Allen Iverson being everything that was wrong with sports...

It's amazing how the same is rarely said for the NFL...Rae Carruth gets his boy to shoot up his baby mother...An NFL player gets implicated in a huge drug network...Another player kills someone while drunk driving...

And the sport that I have dug for years since the early days of Sweetness doing the high step has been given a pass because of its culture-shifting popularity...

I guess its way more easier to demonize another sport that just so happens to be close to majority black.....As opposed to overlooking the shit that goes on within another league just because it happens to be the biggest gambling outlet of all the other sports and it still features mostly whites at the biggest, glamor position (QB)...

I love my football...But the double standard is sickening...

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65. "WHAT.THE.FUCK did you just type?"
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Fam, some niggas just snap...

talking bout he ain't deserve to breathe...well obviously he did before killing his girl considering no one in either family saw any signs of violence or abuse...

he killed his girl and decided in his own head he didn't deserve to breathe and took care of that


It's not for any of us to judge at this point


its sad...


that's it


all this other shit you talking is pointless

you have old players KILLING THEMSELVES because of concussions and their own issues where they can't deal with life from years of playing the sport

you have tons of wrestlers who die early from years of steroid and physical abuse

you have tons of athletes with mental issues that if tame enough are marketed by their respective leagues and if extreme, they are tossed off to be forgotten


but you have MILLIONS OF PEOPLE that aren't under this scope who go through the same mental issues and pressures who sometimes just fucking snap...


don't make this shit out to be something that it isn.t other than a tragedy

Fred Lane, Tragedy, Phil Hartman, Tragedy, Belcher, Tragedy, Chris Henry, Tragedy Chris Benoit, Tragedy....

fucked up shit happens


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66. "okp is lunchin' off this one-"
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esp hard, this sat afternoon....

  

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69. "RE: WHAT.THE.FUCK did you just type?"
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>you have old players KILLING THEMSELVES because of concussions
>and their own issues where they can't deal with life from
>years of playing the sport



U are so off the reservation on my underlining point...

And, I'm not talking about players who are suffering from concussion syndrome....The same happened to one of my favorite players Dave Duerson...Those guys have been lied to for years...That's another discussion...


>you have tons of wrestlers who die early from years of steroid
>and physical abuse

Yep...but wrestling is not taken seriously...And it's been called out for its lawlessness and the almost criminal way they deal with their talent even worse than the NFL...So that's a horrible comparison...

>you have tons of athletes with mental issues that if tame
>enough are marketed by their respective leagues and if
>extreme, they are tossed off to be forgotten
>
>
>but you have MILLIONS OF PEOPLE that aren't under this scope
>who go through the same mental issues and pressures who
>sometimes just fucking snap...
>
>
>don't make this shit out to be something that it isn.t other
>than a tragedy
>
>Fred Lane, Tragedy, Phil Hartman, Tragedy, Belcher, Tragedy,
>Chris Henry, Tragedy Chris Benoit, Tragedy....
>
>fucked up shit happens


Dog...I'm not just talking about some dude that killed himself...He killed his baby mom's and like a coward checked out...But more importantly, the talk surrounding dude is that he was beating her and being very abusive...Yes I'm sure he had some serious issues to deal with...We all are far from perfect...but beating on a woman and killing them does not give you a pass..

My point is the overall perception of how folks look at the NBA vs. the NFL is glaring...

One league seems to always be in the news for wild or criminal behavior and is still viewed as America's game...The other has struggled just to get over perceptions that it is a "thug" (aka black) league...

Because I follow and love both sports, I can see the double standard...

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70. "that's entirely a different issue"
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Where were these people who noticed abuse when the shit mattered...

shit like this gets me because if dude didn't SNAP then that means there were a gang of people who just let shit escalate and were blinded by either money or some other factor and were more enablers than friends and support.


Media is media and the fact that NBA and NFL are predominately black plays a factor in how their employees are demonized...


Hockey players and baseball players don't beat their wives and go fucking ham off roid rage and etc...


HELL YES THEY DO

but the immature wayward niggas will always be the ones looked at in the fishbowl of sport as being unique and different and dangerous.


That cism goes deep



but none of that shit has to do with this dude who Killed his girl and himself. Fuck what you talking about with regard to NBA and NFL this is an individual who committed a crime and took his own life



Wrestling counts as a comparison because all of this shit is just entertainment for white folks, hell Goddell and Stern just got through telling everyone THIS IS A BUSINESS and you ain't gone too far to see that yet...


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71. "RE: that's entirely a different issue"
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>but none of that shit has to do with this dude who Killed his
>girl and himself. Fuck what you talking about with regard to
>NBA and NFL this is an individual who committed a crime and
>took his own life


It has something to do with it...because it's not just a question of him killing himself...The reports say that he was being abusive to his baby's mother for a minute...That was before he killed her and snapped


>Wrestling counts as a comparison because all of this shit is
>just entertainment for white folks, hell Goddell and Stern
>just got through telling everyone THIS IS A BUSINESS and you
>ain't gone too far to see that yet...


Wrestling is not even viewed as a real sport...Vince treats his players even worst than Walmart workers...

Follow me, Go...

This is not some sky is falling posting...My point is the NFL seems to always gets the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their players getting into trouble with the law or crazy shit like this happening...

When hockey players go nuts and do dumb shit it's not an indictment of their league...

When football players go nuts or engage in unlawful activity, it's not an indictment of the league..

When an NBA player does something unlawful or gets caught up in scandal ,it's "oh, it's a thug league..."

I guess if the NBA had the mammoth gambling popularity as the NFL it would get the same pass...

Could you imagine if 5 or 7 players on the Bulls were in trouble with the law in the same way the Bengals players were...

Or how about how the Detroit Lions players were in and out of trouble and in the news for dumb shit?

You think the Miami Heat and the NBA would have got the same kind of pass?

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72. "that's just CISM"
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look at fights...

hockey its the culture

baseball, it's defending your team and honor

football and basketball, they are beasts...barbarians...childish...etc.



good old cism



let Chara or one of them Russians do this same crime....it won't reflect on the brutal nature of hockey because of CISM



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75. "RE: that's just CISM"
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>look at fights...
>
>hockey its the culture
>
>baseball, it's defending your team and honor
>
>football and basketball, they are
>beasts...barbarians...childish...etc.
>
>
>
>good old cism
>
>
>
>let Chara or one of them Russians do this same crime....it
>won't reflect on the brutal nature of hockey because of CISM


It's deeper than just 'Cism, Go...

It's hypocrisy because of economics...

Yes, Hockey gets a pass because it's virtually all white...

But its even crazier with the NFL and NBA, two of my favorite sports...

It def. helps that the NFL still has a majority of its main headliners ( i.e. QB's) white...Payton, Manning, Brees, A. Rogers, ect...So it's a sport that doesn't look too "black" in the big spots...But race comes second to economics in the NFL...

Football's fans and the media will always look the other way as long as the NFL dominates culturally (fantasy football, Sunday gaming, ect...) and the economics (skyrocketing money brought in by gambling, which is the real reason it truly is America's game) as well as the billions made in NFL revenue make such points moot...

An NFL player can kill someone in a drunk driving accident (which again, happened) and it will be viewed as "shit happens"...BTW, I think that's the right way to view such a thing...A whole sport should not be judged on what some individuals do..

It would be cool if the NBA was viewed in the same light...

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86. "Uh, the suicides in hockey last summer led to DIRECT changes in ..."
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the sport. You're talking about Belak, Boogaard, Rypien, all guys who made their living with their fists essentially. Two suicides and an overdose. It was yet another catalyst in the ongoing move to protect players, eliminate hits targeting the head and continue the sharp, sharp decline in fighting in the sport. If you look at the number of fighting majors today vs any other era, it's incredibly low. There is also more awareness of psychological states, injury recovery, etc now. The NHL has absolutely responded, so have the people within it and so did the public as much as they have responded to anything in what's essentially a tweener between major sport and niche sport.

I am not trying to diminish the racism against the NBA (in particular!) and the NFL to some degree also, just pointing that hockey does not "get a pass." That kind of stuff caused a great deal of introspection and of course from without plenty of people saw these guys as goons who got hit in the head too many times.

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68. "i just added the chiefs def-"
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to my ftsy squad.

(i'm out of the runnings)

i got a hunch they'll play inspired ball....

  

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73. "Cuz their murderer teammate isn't playing?"
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>i got a hunch they'll play inspired ball....

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78. "fallen soldier."
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yup.

  

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76. "RE: i just added the chiefs def-"
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>to my ftsy squad.
>
>(i'm out of the runnings)
>
>i got a hunch they'll play inspired ball....


Really, dog?

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79. "RE: Really, dog? "
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really.

bet a bill they win...

  

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80. "RE: Really, dog? "
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>really.
>
>bet a bill they win...


I'm saying a game should be the last thing the NFL should be worried about...

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81. "I don't see it..."
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Inspired ball is played when somebody dies of a disease or an accident...

This player killed himself after killing somebody else..

I don't see the chiefs playing that inspired...I see them folding more than anything else...

  

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82. "cool story, bro!"
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94. "even COOLER response!"
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fckn geek.

  

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96. "there was ONE response that was completely inappropriate"
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to this news. congrats on being the asshole who made it.

u like that response better, you selfish, unfeeling fuck? cuz i give a fuck if you do.

an innocent women is dead, a troubled dude committed suicide, and a child is now orphaned, all in front of that man's mom and his colleagues and i'm supposed to want to read your thoughts on the fantasy implications? Even professional writers of fantasy advice knew not to say shit like that.
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97. "that's your opinion, dickhead."
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>to this news. congrats on being the asshole who made it.

fuck you and your mother and i hope someone murders her. pussy.

>u like that response better, you selfish, unfeeling fuck? cuz i give a fuck if you do.

either way, bitchboy.

>an innocent women is dead, a troubled dude committed suicide,
>and a child is now orphaned, all in front of that man's mom
>and his colleagues and i'm supposed to want to read your
>thoughts on the fantasy implications? Even professional
>writers of fantasy advice knew not to say shit like that.

they played inspired ball, like i said, and won.

suck my big black dick.

  

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98. "two full threads-"
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1/2 of which in both is insensitive, but my ONE comment took the cake.

fuck you i swear to god i wish this message board shit was done face to face. y'all fckn keyboard warriors would get bitch slapped.

i'll bet on that too.

now say some more pussy shit so i can shut your lame ass up some more-

  

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83. "Nothing more inspiring then a teammate who left his child an orphan.."
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I would totally go all out for a guy like that

  

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89. "Do the Chiefs put RIP patches on their uniforms?"
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or do a tribute before the game?

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91. "no and defintiely not tomorrow"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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92. "fuck no! but they should have a moment for the girl"
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93. "They are going to bury this 20 feet deep from a PR standpoint"
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I would expect zero fanfare at the game.

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95. "good write up on the situation & decision to play"
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/chiefs-players-coaches-try-sense-impossible-belcher-suicide-151900558--nfl.html

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99. ""I love you, bro" - Belcher to Pioli"
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000104868/article/jovan-belcher-reportedly-to-scott-pioli-i-love-you-bro

Jovan Belcher reportedly to Scott Pioli: 'I love you, bro'

By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The League editor
Published: Dec. 3, 2012 at 09:18 a.m. Updated: Dec. 3, 2012 at 09:53 a.m.

Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher knew he was in trouble. The police were coming for him, and the walls were closing in. Before anything happened next, Belcher reportedly wanted to talk to the men who made his professional dreams come true.

SI.com's Peter King revealed new details on Belcher's final minutes in his latest Monday Morning Quarterback column on SI.com. He writes, via a source close to law enforcement, that Belcher arrived in the Chiefs' parking lot Saturday at the same time as Pioli. The general manager saw Belcher was in an agitated state and had a gun. The two reportedly spoke for several minutes.

"I came here to tell you thank you. Thank you for my chance. I love you, bro," Belcher told Pioli, according to King's source.

Belcher also reportedly asked to speak with "Romeo and Gary" -- head coach Romeo Crennel and defensive coordinator Gary Gibbs.

Pioli called them out to the parking lot, which must have been a difficult decision. He was asking two friends to come out and talk to a young man who had just shot someone (Pioli didn't know the exact details yet) and clearly was not well.

Crennel and Gibbs reportedly tried to calm Belcher down with little success. Belcher thanked them, walked away and shot himself in the head.

"I wasn't able to reach the young man," Crennel told King.

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103. "damn on one hand it means something to be the person"
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that someone wanted to tell thank you and that they loved and appreciated and then to witness it and not be able to help them.

i can't imagine.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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101. "man. Romeo and 'em had to see that shit?"
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damn.

  

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102. "Apparently she was the cousin of Jamaal Charles' wife who introduced..."
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them so for them you know it's a mindfuck on a whole different level. I think it's interesting that they say he suffered head trauma in the last game he played and was held out of the Denver game...

http://deadspin.com/5964917/friend-jovan-belcher-was-dazed-suffering-from-short+term-memory-loss-after-last-game-drinking-pain-medication-domestic-tensions-played-role-in-shootings

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104. "oh wow. painkillers + alcohol + family drama + concussions +"
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a gun.

that is a horrible and volatile cocktail of ingredients.

looking at them like that, it's really not hard to conceive that shaking all of them up *can* yield tragic results. it's also scary to imagine how many more folks are walking around with those ingredients right now.

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105. "no doubt, the whole situation is beyond crazy..."
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>a gun.
>
>that is a horrible and volatile cocktail of ingredients.
>
>looking at them like that, it's really not hard to conceive
>that shaking all of them up *can* yield tragic results. it's
>also scary to imagine how many more folks are walking around
>with those ingredients right now.

real talk...

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109. "SI.com: Belcher was out with another woman prior to murder-suicide?"
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This shit gets crazier and crazier...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/12/03/jovan-belcher-case-new-information/index.html#ixzz2E2hhPd7L

Source: Belcher was out with 2nd woman prior to murder-suicide
Story Highlights

By Thayer Evans, SI.com

According to a law enforcement official close to the investigation, Jovan Belcher was out "partying" the night before he shot Kasandra Perkins. He had been with a woman in the Power and Light District, an area of bars in downtown Kansas City, according to the official who is familiar with statements made by the woman to police.
Belcher and the woman had become separated at some point and he went to her apartment in a complex in Kansas City, but she wasn't there, the official said. According to two of the woman's neighbors, Belcher was intoxicated and they let him stay in their apartment so he could get some sleep.
Belcher asked them to wake him by 6:30 a.m. so he could attend a team meeting later that morning, the official said. "I'll get fined if I don't make it," Belcher told them.
The women woke Belcher and he went to Perkins' house about 6:30 a.m. or 7 a.m. She had come home earlier after a concert and being out in the Power and Light District also.
The couple then argued before Belcher killed Perkins and later killed himself.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/12/03/jovan-belcher-case-new-information/index.html#ixzz2E2yJvRm7

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110. "did the chicks that let him stay know him??"
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I am assuming and hoping yes

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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111. "actually it doesn't really say they were "chicks" but I'm sure they...."
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probably did at least know he was a Chiefs player and thought nothing of letting him crash, I'm sure they've 2nd guessed that decision since

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112. "good point...and dude was drunk??? they betta been diehard chief fans"
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114. "cte."
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http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11612386/jovan-belcher-brain-showed-signs-cte-doctor-says-report

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Warren Coolidge
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115. "im hoping this doesn't get buried under the domestic violence"
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energy right now.... people are going to claim that any talk about this is some sort of excuse for domestic violence, and hopefully not water down the much needed attention on this...

we got a legal system to be punative regarding domestic violence...

we need energy toward addressing and protecting men from brain damage issue..

I watch a lot of hard hits to the head up close every Friday night under the lights... 15....16...17 year old kids getting cracked over the middle by 240lb linebackers......

shit's series...

  

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Y2Flound
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117. "It doesn't excuse actions but it does give us a thing to work and preven..."
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Chris Benoit is a great example (though steroids also played a part).

To this day there are people who try to excuse or defend Benoit killing his wife child and himself as he was brain damaged, but it's not an excuse. In the end the brain damage may have turned him into a monster but he still turned into a monster.

However after the incident WWE took big steps in their wellness policy and concussion policy to do all they could to prevent this. About a year ago they were pushing Dolph Ziggler finally and he got a concussion almost as soon as he won the world title, it was taken off of him immediately and he was forced to sit out for a while which is something that never happened pre Benoit.

I guess what I'm saying is we'll see a little of all of this, we will see people defend Belcher because of CTE, we will see people get mad that we are even talking about CTE as if we are trying to defend Belcher, and we will see cooler heads prevail and realize that this could probably have been prevented...hopefully.

  

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Orbit_Established
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118. "Well, no, it actually makes it completely different. "
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If he had CTE, and CTE has repeatedly been shown to
cause this type of behavior, than yes, it completely
changes the landscape of this situation.

It has nothing to do with "defending" anyone.


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Y2Flound
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119. "No, it adds a caveat, it doesn't make it completely different"
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Because in the end he murdered someone and murder is murder

Now the point that I'm making is that people need to concentrate on prevention of CTE rather than trying to debate about the act or person himself. There will be people who make all kinds of things their top priority and the most logical ones are the ones who look forward to prevention rather than back to argue.

  

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Orbit_Established
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120. "LMAO. Was CTE a "caveat" in Junior Seau's suicide? "
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You do realize that you're defending Goodell and them,
right?

LOL.

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Y2Flound
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121. "No I'm not, you're just looking for a fight"
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The top priority needs to be preventing this going forward, if you disagree with that you're just a jackass.

I hope his family gets the NFL money they are suing for

I also hope we don't see more people get brain damage and kill people

I know that fighting over whether we should "excuse" (for lack of a better word) his actions due to CTE is a waste of time.

  

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Orbit_Established
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122. "LOL -- you're still defending Goodell. "
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That's their entire defense-

Sure, CTE is there, but its not really causing abnormal behavior.

Seau blows his brains out, not because of CTE, but because he's
sad.

Belcher kills two people, not because of CTE, but because he's
a terrible human being.

And if the NFL is causing CTE, but CTE isn't causing these
behaviors, then let's extend the season to 18 games, because
the CTE isn't hurting anyone. Sad and bad people are.



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Y2Flound
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123. "I didn't say any of that, we're done talking"
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You're gross, and no I'm not mad, just I know what my point is and don't care if you know or if you're just being an asshole.

  

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cgonz00cc
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124. "those connections, as of today, dont exist AFAIK"
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Not to say that they wont in the future

But Y2F is right for the most part

  

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116. "I assume the results pertain to his family's lawsuit"
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It will be interesting to see how that plays out.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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125. "damn...just watched the E-60 on Jamal Charles...."
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dude faced a lot of challenges as a kid. I didn't even know that Casandra Perkins, the young lady that Jevon Belcher killed was the cousin on Jamal's wife and like a little sister to him. In fact, Casandra and Jevon met at dinner at Jamal and his wife's house. He said for a long time he blamed himself for her death. Jeez...he shot that girl 9 times in front of her mother.

when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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