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"Torii Hunter..... Tigers"


  

          

http://www.freep.com/article/20121114/SPORTS02/121114040/detroit-tigers-torii-hunter?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

Free agent outfielder Torii Hunter has agreed to a two-year contract with the Detroit Tigers, according to foxsports.com's Ken Rosenthal.

The deal is pending a physical, Rosenthal reports.

Hunter, a nine-time Gold Glover and four-time All-Star, told MLB Network on Monday morning that he wanted to decide on a team within two weeks. Other teams reportedly interested in the 37-year-old were the Texas Rangers (he lives in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area), New York Yankees and Los Angeles Dodgers.

In his 16-year career, Hunter has hit .277 with 297 home runs, 1,143 RBIs and scored 1,068 runs.

Hunter is expected to play rightfield for the Tigers and possibly bat in the No. 2 spot in the lineup.

More on this story to come from freep.com.

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Great signing
Nov 14th 2012
1
yep, I was on the Torii watch all week
Nov 14th 2012
2
Wont be hitting behind Ceejmad, so expect a major drop
Nov 14th 2012
3
Cosign
Nov 14th 2012
5
      Hitting behind Trout>hitting in front of slumper Al> drinking with Miggs
Nov 14th 2012
7
           Laugh then, cuz they way overpaid and I dont give a shit
Nov 14th 2012
8
Keep striking NHL!!!!! LOL!
Nov 14th 2012
10
      Bettman wants Illitch to win a World Series SO BAD
Nov 14th 2012
11
No possibly about him hitting 2nd. Thats where hes hittin
Nov 14th 2012
4
Yank, have you stopped crying about the World Series yet?
Nov 14th 2012
6
Yep, 1-5 makes it all better
Nov 14th 2012
9
      lol so we won only because of those 'bad' calls, right?
Nov 14th 2012
13
           You think I'm worry about the asshole of America
Nov 14th 2012
18
           2 time paper champs .. .get it right or go hide in Ok Activist
Nov 14th 2012
23
                LMAO! if you say so... herb
Nov 14th 2012
27
                     cmon you know I mean in SF...
Nov 14th 2012
32
                          whatever you say... champ.. LOL!
Nov 14th 2012
33
                               champ(s) plural.. get it right, nutjob
Nov 14th 2012
35
                                    ^can't get right^
Nov 14th 2012
38
           LMAO!... I'm gonna have so much fun with you...
Nov 14th 2012
28
                you mean the kind of fun our hitters had with Verlander?
Nov 14th 2012
34
                     ROFLMAO!
Nov 14th 2012
47
                     P-A-P-E-R C-H-A-M-P-S
Nov 14th 2012
49
The lineup is gonna be sick...
Nov 14th 2012
12
Much better lineup next year
Nov 14th 2012
19
      That's a really good guess
Nov 14th 2012
20
      What is the market for DELMON!?
Nov 14th 2012
22
      RE: What is the market for DELMON!?
Nov 14th 2012
25
      I think he'll get an MLB deal somewhere
Nov 14th 2012
26
           The sad thing is
Nov 14th 2012
30
      They could afford to let Sanchez walk now
Nov 14th 2012
24
           I dont see the correlation of Torii and Sanchez...
Nov 14th 2012
29
                RE: I dont see the correlation of Torii and Sanchez...
Nov 14th 2012
36
                     arguably a 4th but we still need one.
Nov 14th 2012
37
                          RE: arguably a 4th but we still need one.
Nov 14th 2012
40
                               Are u suggesting we are not in a win now period??
Nov 14th 2012
41
                                    RE: Are u suggesting we are not in a win now period??
Nov 14th 2012
42
                                         That's a good frame
Nov 14th 2012
43
                                              I would like to preface
Nov 14th 2012
44
                                                   That makes sense
Nov 14th 2012
46
      Plus we get a full year of Infante instead of Raburn/Inge/Santiago
Nov 14th 2012
21
Good, short veteran signing
Nov 14th 2012
14
.270/.340/.470 <<<<<<<<<<< I would take that in a heartbeat
Nov 14th 2012
15
      I'm hedging on the walks thing
Nov 14th 2012
16
           Walks concerns me with this whole team
Nov 14th 2012
17
                see that fence? I'm aiming for it... STAT!
Nov 14th 2012
48
No draft pick compensation either
Nov 14th 2012
31
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/Riggz_/kdv1vc.gif
Nov 14th 2012
39
Love it, fills multiple needs, good clubhouse guy, very fair terms
Nov 14th 2012
45
I'd take him over the fish right today
Apr 11th 2013
50
over the entire marlins lineup? I agree.
Apr 11th 2013
51
      No joke, are you actually Brandon Inge?
Apr 11th 2013
52
      my forearms are covered with tattoos, so maybe?
Apr 11th 2013
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      Love that AVY yo!!!
Apr 11th 2013
53
           it was on the front page of ESPN New York when he got the HOF call
Apr 11th 2013
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List better off season signings below:
Aug 29th 2013
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http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1239388/thumbs/o-TORII-HUNTER-facebook.jpg
Aug 29th 2013
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RE: List better off season signings below:
Aug 29th 2013
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      Hoe-sign
Aug 29th 2013
60
      Russell Martin is right there as well
Aug 29th 2013
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I really hate this motherfucker....
Aug 29th 2013
58
i'm just glad he got scherzer off the hook!
Aug 29th 2013
61

ErnestLee
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1. "Great signing"
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Wed Nov-14-12 11:58 AM by ErnestLee

  

          

Low risk, high reward. Really helps defensively. Offensively if he can even approach last years numbers, huge bonus.

Edit. Ok, just now saw the numbers. 26 mil is pretty steep. Now he kinda has to replicate last years production. Ilitch just dont give a fuck.

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Yank
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2. "yep, I was on the Torii watch all week"
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B9
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3. "Wont be hitting behind Ceejmad, so expect a major drop"
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Ceej
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5. "Cosign"
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Hitters in front of miggy get nothing to hit

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7. "Hitting behind Trout>hitting in front of slumper Al> drinking with Miggs"
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If the Tigers spent any serious money on this, I'm going to laugh.

  

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Ceej
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8. "Laugh then, cuz they way overpaid and I dont give a shit"
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Wed Nov-14-12 12:07 PM by Ceej

  

          

It aint my money.

Honest edit: Do u think we signed him to drive in 92 runs or to get on base at his career average percentage of about 34%?

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Yank
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10. "Keep striking NHL!!!!! LOL!"
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>Edit. Ok, just now saw the numbers. 26 mil is pretty steep.
>Now he kinda has to replicate last years production. Ilitch
>just dont give a fuck.


I'll take it after the all the neglect this team has faced over the years during the Wings run

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Ceej
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11. "Bettman wants Illitch to win a World Series SO BAD"
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4. "No possibly about him hitting 2nd. Thats where hes hittin"
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6. "Yank, have you stopped crying about the World Series yet?"
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Yank
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9. "Yep, 1-5 makes it all better"
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fuckin calls were still ridicula tho..

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13. "lol so we won only because of those 'bad' calls, right?"
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I'm going to remind your bitch ass who the World Series champs are all off-season


get comfortable

  

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Yank
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18. "You think I'm worry about the asshole of America"
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Wed Nov-14-12 01:02 PM by Yank

  

          

LOL!...

Nigga I'm gonna stand strong by that statement..

Yes nigga deal with it

P-A-P-E-R C-H-A-M-P-S


I'm gonna be your best friend




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23. "2 time paper champs .. .get it right or go hide in Ok Activist"
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going to be a long offseason, sweetie

  

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Yank
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27. "LMAO! if you say so... herb"
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Wed Nov-14-12 01:13 PM by Yank

  

          

Looks like I'm already winning.


2 time paper champs ..


You should go to fan school...

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Amritsar
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32. "cmon you know I mean in SF..."
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>Looks like I'm already winning.
>
>
>2 time paper champs ..
>
>
>You should go to fan school...

  

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33. "whatever you say... champ.. LOL!"
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Amritsar
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35. "champ(s) plural.. get it right, nutjob "
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38. "^can't get right^"
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*face palm*

http://www.bing.com/Dictionary/search?q=define+champion&qpvt=champ+definition&FORM=DTPDIA

champion
Definition
cham·pi·on

4. remarkable person: a personal example of excellence or achievement


Of course it's all in sarcasm. See how comfy I am?

I swear you mofos be on that ABC shit, LOL

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Yank
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28. "LMAO!... I'm gonna have so much fun with you..."
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>I'm going to remind your bitch ass who the World Series
>champs are all off-season
>
>
>get comfortable

Lies run sprints.
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34. "you mean the kind of fun our hitters had with Verlander? "
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admit it, you're as scared of our pitching staff as the Texas Rangers are


your crying about game one aside, why couldn't you out hit us in games 2,3 and 4? hmm?





  

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47. "ROFLMAO!"
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>admit it, you're as scared of our pitching staff as the Texas
>Rangers are
>
>


you're a good little homer aren't you

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49. "P-A-P-E-R C-H-A-M-P-S"
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http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8271981/melky-cabrera-san-francisco-giants-suspended-50-games

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12. "The lineup is gonna be sick..."
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Wed Nov-14-12 12:35 PM by soulfunk

  

          

1. AJ
2. Torii
3. Miggy
4. Prince
5. VMart
6. Dirks
7. Peralta
8. Avila
9. Infante

26 mil is too much, bug I can't really complain about that because it's only two years. The downside is it means we probably won't have money to sign Sanchez or to get a good closer.

  

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19. "Much better lineup next year"
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Torii and Victor instead of Boesch and Delmon has to be worth close to 10 wins.

  

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20. "That's a really good guess"
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Based on their last active season, Hunter (2012) was at 5.3 WAR and Victor Martinez (2011) was at 2.9 WAR*. Delmon Young was at -.7 and Boesch at -1.3.

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22. "What is the market for DELMON!?"
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>Based on their last active season, Hunter (2012) was at 5.3
>WAR and Victor Martinez (2011) was at 2.9 WAR*. Delmon Young
>was at -.7 and Boesch at -1.3.

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25. "RE: What is the market for DELMON!?"
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The sack of dildos the Pistons get for Tayshaun.

  

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26. "I think he'll get an MLB deal somewhere"
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He's really just... not a good player. I liked him with the Twins and I've always wanted him to succeed, but the things he does badly have gotten worse and the things he does well haven't developed.

The interesting thing about DELMON! is that the sheen of #1 pick never really full goes away. If I was an impossibly shitty team like the Astros that was rebuilding the farm but didn't want to jump straight away into giving Robby Grossman or whoever an MLB job out of spring training, I'd offer DELMON! 1/1mm and the LF job. With barely any territory to patrol and that comically short wall in left for him to aim at when he's hitting, it's a good gamble that he could rebuild his value and they could deal him for anybody with any upside at all before the deadline.

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30. "The sad thing is"
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Even with a team going nowhere like the stros, I bet his leash would be shorter than the one he had here. He basically could do no wrong while doing next to nothing right. But u should never criticized a manager who just went to the WS so I'll fall back.

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24. "They could afford to let Sanchez walk now"
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And Coke/ Benoit/ Albuquerque isn't a bad back end of the 'pen if they want to skimp there financially to offset a Sanchez contract. Hunter is a really good move for them.

  

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29. "I dont see the correlation of Torii and Sanchez..."
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U likin Bondo out the pen, lol

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36. "RE: I dont see the correlation of Torii and Sanchez..."
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Getting significantly better on both offense and defense helps offset the need for a 3rd starter.

  

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37. "arguably a 4th but we still need one. "
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40. "RE: arguably a 4th but we still need one. "
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Every team needs someone as good as Annibel Sanchez as their 4th starter. If factors like money and planning for the future are being thrown out the window, then fuck it. Bring back Sanchez and sign Soriano and Broxton to hold the pen down. Problems solved!

  

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41. "Are u suggesting we are not in a win now period??"
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Money is not a thing, that has been made clear.

We have got to win at least 1 world series in the next 1 years. Stop actin like this money is comin outta your pocket.


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42. "RE: Are u suggesting we are not in a win now period??"
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Oh, I know the Tigers are in win yesterday mode, but that doesn't mean I won't try to objectively analyze their moves. Verlander is only signed for 2 more years, and Miggy 3. The Hunter move makes sense because it won't impact their payroll when they're going to need extra money to pay their two best players even more than they are now. Giving Sanchez the 5/70 or whatever he's going to get will hurt that. I'm not saying those are factors in the Tigers decision making, but they are factors in the reality of what happens in the future. If Illitch doesn't die w/ ring on his finger and a smile on his face, his lack of regard for fiscal constraint could make it a long time before the new ownership has a smile on theirs.

  

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43. "That's a good frame"
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>Verlander is only signed for 2 more years, and Miggy 3. The
>Hunter move makes sense because it won't impact their payroll
>when they're going to need extra money to pay their two best
>players even more than they are now.

Having Sanchez outdate all of those guys by several years is a terrible look. He's apparently asking for 6/90mm - which he'll never get but which is scary enough that it's hard not to then view whatever deal he's going to eventually sign as an inevitable disaster.

Ricky Nolasco is probably the next to go in the ridiculous Marlins sale. His ERA has always been weirdly out of proportion to his peripherals, which are pretty comparable to Sanchez'. I think the team that decides he's just had rough luck (um, for a half decade) could get a nice find.

Ryan Dempster has been weirdly undiscussed in the free agent pitching market too.

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44. "I would like to preface"
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My stance was not a pro signsancheztowhateverhewants stance, it was just to point out that with or without Torii we still need a starter

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46. "That makes sense"
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And it's a reasonable point. Sanchez is weird because his demands have gotten out and they look super ugly. There's actually a fairly solid middle class of pitching this year, including a lot of guys that are good bets to be cheaper and better than Sanchez.

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21. "Plus we get a full year of Infante instead of Raburn/Inge/Santiago"
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at second base like we had in 2012...

  

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14. "Good, short veteran signing"
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The decline in his 2012 walk rate interests me a bit, because it looked for the prior four seasons like he'd really added a skill that wasn't present when he was younger. The higher strikeout rate says he's starting to hit like an older player, but that might not be a bad look for him as long as he wears it (take the strikeout/power tradeoff and know that strikeouts mean he's not bouncing in doubleplays in that #2 slot) and returns to drawing walks at a pretty good rate like he did from 2008-2012.

His .389 BABIP from 2012 isn't going to happen again, but if walks continue to be a part of his broadening base of offensive skills then the move to a substantially friendlier hitting environment lets the Tigers feel comfortable risking a not-small annual price for only two years. Call it .270/.340/.470 or so?

And don't forget defense. Because in constructing their 2012 softball team the Tigers... totally did. Hunter's graceful decline in center has turned into an asset as a rightfielder, and he should be worth a full win over whoever the Tigers would have played there otherwise. Boesch, I guess? The pitching staff will be greatful, in any event.

Anyhow, they can't all be crazy bargains, but I really like this for a team that is close enough to only need small tweaks. A lot like the Beltran signing for St. Louis last winter.

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15. ".270/.340/.470 <<<<<<<<<<< I would take that in a heartbeat"
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I can see OBP bein higher but I will not be mad at .340 AT ALL.

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16. "I'm hedging on the walks thing"
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It's not like last year was a concerning level, but rather a return to his career average territory. But prior to that, he was walking in the 8-9.5% range and had bumped up to that level for four straight years. If he remembers that skill again and has the singles fall in to hit .270, then he'll be on base 35 or 36% of the time.

Part of me kind of wonders if his lower walk rate was due to his weirdly high batting average on balls in play. I remember with the Twins that he was a fascinating player because he was both unbelievably streaky within an individual season (there will be 2-3 week periods where, for all his talent, he will be the last person you want at the plate) and really consistent from season to season. Which makes sense. People who hit .280 don't get seven hits in every single twenty five at-bat repetition. But it's still weird to watch.

In any event, the way he usually responded to streaks was to keep up whatever he was doing. So if contact meant hitting .389 for Hunter like it did all of last year, then you can bet he went to the plate looking for contact.

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17. "Walks concerns me with this whole team"
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no player ever looks to take a pitch or work a count. Seems to be contagious too, so that may (probably will) rub off onto his contact happy approaches.

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48. "see that fence? I'm aiming for it... STAT!"
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31. "No draft pick compensation either"
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I wonder if the Angels are reconsidering on not extending a qualifying offer to Hunter since he ended up getting roughly twice that on the open market.

That's not the huge deal it once was, but the Tigers are so aggressive on the trade market that they really shouldn't be punting draft picks as well. And they didn't. Another thing to like about this deal for them.

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39. "http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/Riggz_/kdv1vc.gif"
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45. "Love it, fills multiple needs, good clubhouse guy, very fair terms"
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They need RF and they need a table setter. Very good deal, loved Torii and will miss watching him here. Low-key HOF candidate, this guy was tremendous in his prime and can still do his thing. I don't think he'll make it but I would consider it. Was the top player at a marquee position over a pretty long span of time.

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50. "I'd take him over the fish right today"
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51. "over the entire marlins lineup? I agree."
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52. "No joke, are you actually Brandon Inge?"
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54. "my forearms are covered with tattoos, so maybe?"
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53. "Love that AVY yo!!! "
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55. "it was on the front page of ESPN New York when he got the HOF call"
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eff a Bron, Bernard's the original #KANG

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56. "List better off season signings below:"
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I'll wait.

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57. "http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1239388/thumbs/o-TORII-HUNTER-facebook.jpg"
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59. "RE: List better off season signings below:"
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Victorino
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60. "Hoe-sign "
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62. "Russell Martin is right there as well"
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58. "I really hate this motherfucker...."
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61. "i'm just glad he got scherzer off the hook!"
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