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DonKnutts
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"Poll question: ESPN* picked the Nuggz to win the West. This means..."


  

          

(*) The Magazine

Poll result (24 votes)
Denver has a balanced squad with the depth to see off LA, OKC, etc. (1 votes)Vote
OKC didn't do enough to get better. (1 votes)Vote
LA hate is stronger in Bristol than OKP. (1 votes)Vote
ESPN crazy. (21 votes)Vote

  

  

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They believe one of them role players is coming into stardom this season
Oct 16th 2012
1
if it ain't already happen for iggy, it ain't happening now.
Oct 16th 2012
25
      iggy is a star.
Oct 17th 2012
48
Option E: Sources reveal to them that AI IS COMING BACK!
Oct 16th 2012
2
THE SMELL OF JALAPENO POPPERS PERMEATED DENVER'S ROOM
Oct 17th 2012
36
Lol
Oct 16th 2012
3
solid sleeper pick.
Oct 16th 2012
4
it's a bullshit pick, as was any contention they were a contender
Oct 16th 2012
5
Denver = Philadelphia West
Oct 16th 2012
8
      no.
Oct 16th 2012
10
           Top of the second tier of the conference but not contending? Yes.
Oct 16th 2012
14
                nobody contending with Miami in the east, so what's that matter
Oct 16th 2012
23
                     7 games in the ECF isn't contending?
Oct 17th 2012
31
                          5 of them without Bosh when y'all went 7 games with us? Nah
Oct 17th 2012
37
                               This years team is not last year's team.
Oct 17th 2012
42
                                    uh, yeah, it ain't, neither is ours. If you wanna try to pretend
Oct 17th 2012
46
                                         You post in true okayplayer fashion...
Oct 18th 2012
51
                                              LOL
Apr 29th 2013
59
                                                   come on dog
Apr 29th 2013
60
Oh, so ESPN the Magazine has validated you?
Oct 16th 2012
11
lulz
Oct 16th 2012
27
      Oh, you thought that was for you calling them a good team?
Oct 16th 2012
28
           LOL
Oct 16th 2012
29
                Vegas always gives 65-1 odds for contenders. GET ON IT NOW!
Oct 16th 2012
30
                     take a hundred dollar flyer, some planes might crash
Oct 17th 2012
39
                     honestly if they are 65-1 i will throw $20 or so on it
Oct 17th 2012
44
                     It's honestly a good long shot bet.
Oct 17th 2012
47
                     obviously, i would.
Oct 17th 2012
45
No one pissed at top 5, it was the contender contention...
Oct 16th 2012
19
That small-ball lineup they like to play will only get you so far....
Oct 16th 2012
6
Maybe they forgot that OKC was still in the league.
Oct 16th 2012
7
trying to bring attention to that failure of a magazine any way possible
Oct 16th 2012
9
...espn sucks as a magazine, staff, and a motherfucking cable channel
Oct 16th 2012
12
i don't think they win it, but i dunno why it's so ludicrous
Oct 16th 2012
13
There's also this other team. They just won the WC last year.
Oct 16th 2012
15
      fair enough
Oct 16th 2012
18
boredom
Oct 16th 2012
16
They got a shot...in they ass (c) Redd Foxx
Oct 16th 2012
17
deepest team in the West
Oct 16th 2012
20
hey it could happen.
Oct 16th 2012
21
I'll take the team with the best back and front court in the league
Oct 16th 2012
22
who's that, the Knicks?
Oct 16th 2012
24
      lol that was going to be my joke.
Oct 16th 2012
26
keep TROLLIN TROLLIN TROLLIN
Oct 17th 2012
32
7 or 8
Oct 17th 2012
33
Not as far fetched as many of you all want to think it is...they should
Oct 17th 2012
34
and okc has 2 maybe 3 scorers that score better than anyone on
Oct 17th 2012
38
yeah, and OKC's 2nd leading scorer can sometimes shoot his team
Oct 17th 2012
40
That's a big if
Oct 17th 2012
41
it's always been a big 'if' when it comes to the Nuggets
Oct 17th 2012
43
frankly, their coach isn't up to making them that.
Oct 17th 2012
50
      that's not his real problem.
Oct 18th 2012
52
how are they that different than philly last year?
Oct 17th 2012
49
      well philly was one of the best teams in the league until they
Oct 18th 2012
54
REDEMPTION FOR GUINNESS
Oct 17th 2012
35
thats not what the article said... u must've glanced
Oct 18th 2012
53
VERY solid sleeper pick
Apr 28th 2013
55
esp. considering Gallo being out
Apr 28th 2013
57
Hahahahhaha good uppage
Apr 28th 2013
58
Smh
Apr 28th 2013
56
welp
May 03rd 2013
61
LMFAO
May 03rd 2013
62

realityrap
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1. "They believe one of them role players is coming into stardom this season"
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Ty Law or Iggy...I doubt it though. They will just be a team that real contenders hate to play.

  

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25. "if it ain't already happen for iggy, it ain't happening now."
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besides, that team isn't designed to have a superstar, they are very deep and have a lot of talented players, which is probably why denver picked them. But its dumb.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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48. "iggy is a star."
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Wed Oct-17-12 02:24 PM by Guinness

  

          

he's solid offensive player with a lot of different abilities and great defender. while not a star in the cliched GO-TO ALPHA-GODHEAD-SCORER sense, he's more efficient from the floor than kobe or melo (higher TS%, higher offensive rating). so while iggy isn't someone you can hand the rock to and get out of the way, he's still helping a team on that side of the ball.

philly needed to move iggy to get a legitimate young, talented big man because they had the worst front court in the NBA and had maxed out with the current talent. but iggy was the main reason that collection of scrubs was competitive.

shout to lou willz, though.

anyway, if lawson and gallo can be that isolation scorer, then iggy can be the stopped on the other side of the ball. we could be in for some real playoff fun with him on kobe and KD late in games.

  

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2. "Option E: Sources reveal to them that AI IS COMING BACK!"
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36. "THE SMELL OF JALAPENO POPPERS PERMEATED DENVER'S ROOM"
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nm

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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3. "Lol"
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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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Guinness
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4. "solid sleeper pick."
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everyone was pissing their pants when i said denver was potentially a top five team and a "contender" two weeks ago.

  

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5. "it's a bullshit pick, as was any contention they were a contender"
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>everyone was pissing their pants when i said denver was
>potentially a top five team and a "contender" two weeks ago.

  

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8. "Denver = Philadelphia West"
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10. "no."
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realityrap
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14. "Top of the second tier of the conference but not contending? Yes."
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23. "nobody contending with Miami in the east, so what's that matter"
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I thought you were referring to the way the teams are building towards their future.

  

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realityrap
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31. "7 games in the ECF isn't contending? "
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Bombastic
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37. "5 of them without Bosh when y'all went 7 games with us? Nah"
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y'all ain't winning the east, probably everybody but Paul Pierce & you understand that.

  

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realityrap
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42. "This years team is not last year's team."
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Stop acting like we trotting the same niggas out on the floor as last season.

It kills me how fans put all chips in on their team's additions but can't even come with a thought process that will disconnect the outcome of two different seasons based on overall additions.

Do better Bombastic

  

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46. "uh, yeah, it ain't, neither is ours. If you wanna try to pretend"
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you got so much better adding Jason Terry over Ray, returning Avery Bradley from knee surgery & overpaying Jeff Green that you will now beat a Miami team with a (presumably) healthy Big 3 who have now figured out how to win a title then I've got a Dino Radja throwback to sell you.

The Celtics are contending for no title other than 'Old & Mad', they've already got a dynasty going in that regard but I'm hoping the Lakers can upset them this season.

  

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realityrap
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51. "You post in true okayplayer fashion..."
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Whether Jeff Green is overpaid or not doesnt take from his value on the court as a contributor or as someone that'll allow Pierce to rest without there being a gigantic whole on the perimeter. If you watch the Celtics, then you'd know who long a ways 14-16 points a game from a non starter would go. We scored 2 bench points in game 7 of the ECF..That on top of the fact that we could have someone who even seems like they could matchup with James. We had Brandon Fucking Bass matched up with him last season. Brandon Bass.

Avery Bradley being able to take a bulk of minutes from gimpy ray allen (Who in 2012, Jason Terry is better than btw) and giving us someone who could make scoring difficult on Wade... and you didn't even mention Courtney Lee. Nor Jared Sulliger who is likely to take minutes from Bass, who was already a solid option at the 4...

This team is greatly improved in general and as a match up with Miami.

But I wouldn't expect you think that far about a team you hate. You are a philly fan, and Philly fan mad reached an all time high in last year's second round.

I see you.

  

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59. "LOL"
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60. "come on dog"
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11. "Oh, so ESPN the Magazine has validated you?"
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How awesome for you!

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27. "lulz"
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you called my praise of the nuggets: "the dumbest thing you've said on this board, ever."

cry!

  

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28. "Oh, you thought that was for you calling them a good team?"
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It was SPECIFICALLY for you calling them title contenders.

They aren't.

Because you said that they are, that is the dumbest things ever said on this board.

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29. "LOL"
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30. "Vegas always gives 65-1 odds for contenders. GET ON IT NOW!"
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Bombastic
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39. "take a hundred dollar flyer, some planes might crash"
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44. "honestly if they are 65-1 i will throw $20 or so on it"
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that's a good ass long shot. probably it's $20 into a fire but a middle of the pack team at really long odds there.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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47. "It's honestly a good long shot bet."
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But I'm saying that no true contender has ever had a 65-1 shot at the beginning of a season. In September of 2006, just before the 2006-2007 season (when the Heat were just coming off a title), the pre-Pau, Kwame Brown/Smush Parker Lakers were 22-1 to win the NBA championship.

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45. "obviously, i would."
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LA2Philly
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19. "No one pissed at top 5, it was the contender contention..."
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that was and still is laughable. Funnier now that you're putting in quotation marks.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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6. "That small-ball lineup they like to play will only get you so far...."
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Iggy is not Lebron and Lawson is not Wade.

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7. "Maybe they forgot that OKC was still in the league."
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9. "trying to bring attention to that failure of a magazine any way possible"
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12. "...espn sucks as a magazine, staff, and a motherfucking cable channel"
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13. "i don't think they win it, but i dunno why it's so ludicrous"
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other than the title that everyone's already given the Lakers, i guess.

they're going to run a lot of teams ragged.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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15. "There's also this other team. They just won the WC last year."
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You may have heard of them.

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18. "fair enough"
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i like the Nuggets value at 20-1 for the WCF though.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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16. "boredom"
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Denver is good, but not that good. They're not even going to win their division.

Iggy is an upgrade and Mcgee has potential, but there is no way they beat either OKC or the Lakers in a 7 game series.

Not even sure they can beat memphis or a healthy Spurs team in a series.

  

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17. "They got a shot...in they ass (c) Redd Foxx"
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20. "deepest team in the West"
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i been said they goin to be in WCF

dont kno if they'll win

i kinda feel coach karl is due


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21. "hey it could happen."
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if nothing else they'll be the most entertaining team in the west (maybe the league)

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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22. "I'll take the team with the best back and front court in the league"
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24. "who's that, the Knicks?"
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26. "lol that was going to be my joke."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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32. "keep TROLLIN TROLLIN TROLLIN"
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33. "7 or 8"
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34. "Not as far fetched as many of you all want to think it is...they should"
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be 2x as good as they were last year...and that kid Kenneth Faried looks like he's going to be a BEAST...

They are younger and more athletic than LA...and they don't fear LA after taking them to 7 gms last season

They match up well w/OKC too...and they have more players that can score than Oklahoma

the only question mark is will they make a concerted effort on the defensive end...and if they do that, they are for sure one of the top teams in the west

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38. "and okc has 2 maybe 3 scorers that score better than anyone on"
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Denver.

that's a huge advantage for okc come playoff time.

>They match up well w/OKC too...and they have more players that can score than Oklahoma

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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40. "yeah, and OKC's 2nd leading scorer can sometimes shoot his team"
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out of a game...

OKC is still the team to beat in the west but lets be honest here: they got some lucky breaks against both Dallas and LA..and I say that to say that they're not unbeatable.

At this point, I'd still favor them over Denver but I do want to see how the new players fit on Denver


>Denver.
>
>that's a huge advantage for okc come playoff time.
>
>>They match up well w/OKC too...and they have more players
>that can score than Oklahoma
>
>

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41. "That's a big if"
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>the only question mark is will they make a concerted effort on
>the defensive end...and if they do that, they are for sure one
>of the top teams in the west

For any non-superstar team to contend they have to be great, not just good, defensively. The Nuggs are typically middle-of-the-pack in defensive efficiency, so that would take a huge leap.

The other possibility is Lawson or Gallo taking the next step. The Nuggs' depth is great, but it ends up being a problem in the playoffs when you have to shrink your rotations and George ends up having to guess about who could have a hot hand any given night. Faried and whoever improving is great, but doesn't help the big problem that can only be solved with either Lawson or Gallo stepping up. Gallo's got the mentality but maybe not the ability. Lawson's got the ability but not the mentality.

  

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43. "it's always been a big 'if' when it comes to the Nuggets"
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>For any non-superstar team to contend they have to be great,
>not just good, defensively. The Nuggs are typically
>middle-of-the-pack in defensive efficiency, so that would take
>a huge leap.

ordinarily that's true, but I can't recall seeing a team of non or borderline stars as deep as this Nuggets team. I do think the addition of Iggy, though, will boost their perimeter defense and McGhee is a solid shot blocker which they haven't had in the last few seasons...in addition, they have Faried eating everything off the glass. I don't think they have to be great on defense to really contend w/the other western conference powerhouses, because their never going to be great on defense. Their offense is still going to be their defense sort of speak...their non stop attack on the offensive end wears teams down as it did w/LA as that series progressed

>The other possibility is Lawson or Gallo taking the next step.
>The Nuggs' depth is great, but it ends up being a problem in
>the playoffs when you have to shrink your rotations and George
>ends up having to guess about who could have a hot hand any
>given night. Faried and whoever improving is great, but
>doesn't help the big problem that can only be solved with
>either Lawson or Gallo stepping up. Gallo's got the mentality
>but maybe not the ability. Lawson's got the ability but not
>the mentality.

I think Lawson has the potential to reach that level this season moreso than Gallinari. He can be that 2nd option but I don't think he's ready for the next level just yet.

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50. "frankly, their coach isn't up to making them that. "
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their coach can't even handle the egos of the guys who score in his scoring offense. he's not gonna shape them into a defense.

  

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52. "that's not his real problem."
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karl's main issue is that he doesn't play the right guys. it took him forever to get faried minutes and he doesn't give koufos enough tick.

  

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49. "how are they that different than philly last year?"
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at the moment they're healthier in the post, but philly had nice post depth at the beginning of the season.

there aren't minutes for all the talent. but few of them are talented enough to stand out.

i agree faried is a beast, but he already was. don't see a lot of upside from where he was in stretches last year. biggest change in chandler back.

i still think they need a guy. even if they want to be the pistons...they kinda have some guys who might be rip. they definitely don't have a wallace. i don't think ty+andre = billups.

they just have 16 guys that could get run as a 2 through 8 option on any nba team.

  

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54. "well philly was one of the best teams in the league until they"
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collapsed over the last month of the season
i'm guessing denver wouldn't mind having a top 3-5 defensive team with a top 5ish record for 3/4s of the season

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35. "REDEMPTION FOR GUINNESS"
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nm

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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53. "thats not what the article said... u must've glanced"
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"hey, make this right mayne
stop at the light mayne,
my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "

  

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55. "VERY solid sleeper pick"
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57. "esp. considering Gallo being out"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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58. "Hahahahhaha good uppage"
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56. "Smh"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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61. "welp"
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________________________________________
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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62. "LMFAO "
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