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"Poll question: Where do you have Melo right now?"


  

          

Poll result (58 votes)
Top 5 (12 votes)Vote
Top 7 (6 votes)Vote
Top 10 (21 votes)Vote
He aint on my top 10 (19 votes)Vote

  

  

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he's currently at #8 for me
Aug 17th 2012
1
RE: he's currently at #8 for me
Dec 11th 2012
246
Top 10 player; Top 3 scorer.
Aug 17th 2012
2
pretty much.
Aug 17th 2012
5
this is fair
Aug 17th 2012
10
agree
Aug 18th 2012
188
if he's in your top 10 you probably didn't think it thru
Aug 17th 2012
3
not sure which one of your lists is most funny
Aug 17th 2012
4
here are two lists that are HILARIOUS.......
Aug 17th 2012
8
and where the fuck is tony.
Aug 17th 2012
6
yup. this was off the top of my head. add parker in there too
Aug 17th 2012
12
http://tinyurl.com/9n86w8j
Aug 17th 2012
9
lmao
Aug 17th 2012
11
LOL, Duncan?
Aug 17th 2012
16
the knicks wouldn't have been a 7th seed if you replace melo with
Aug 17th 2012
21
      We talkin bout profiles? Not his game? But profiles now?
Aug 17th 2012
108
You are insane.
Aug 17th 2012
23
You are mad.
Aug 17th 2012
27
      Kobe? FOH
Aug 17th 2012
30
GASOL????
Aug 17th 2012
28
MVPau
Nov 30th 2012
243
Even with some questionable names on there... that's still 10 on there
Aug 17th 2012
148
pls do not post about basketball ever again.
Dec 14th 2012
253
ima lurker
Feb 09th 2013
257
Lmao, this post gets more hilarious with age
Feb 09th 2013
259
      update....
Mar 03rd 2013
261
so melo has a week of games as good as he will
Aug 17th 2012
7
The last time he was on a good, healthy team...
Aug 17th 2012
13
i'm not disputing melo can play LIKE a top 5 player
Aug 17th 2012
22
that had more to do w/Chauncey, you idiot and everyone who talks
Aug 17th 2012
56
      Actually, had to do with not having Iverson
Aug 17th 2012
139
i'm sure no one is voting that based off the olympics
Aug 17th 2012
14
well melo certainly hasn't been a top 5 player for the knicks
Aug 17th 2012
17
      its not my opinion but i'd be really really surprised if people's opinio...
Aug 17th 2012
19
           i don't think it changed anyone's opinions
Aug 17th 2012
34
                all those guys have had better teams then melo has had in ny./
Aug 17th 2012
41
                     when you're a "top 5" player and pick your team
Aug 17th 2012
45
                          oh the irony...Melo's teammates aren't good enough
Aug 17th 2012
47
                          huh? i'm not sure what you are talking bout but
Aug 17th 2012
48
                               please tell me which superstar wouldn't win A GAME
Aug 17th 2012
53
                                    bwhahahaahah
Aug 17th 2012
55
                                    knicks beat miami last year with all those inijuries
Aug 17th 2012
61
                                    i'm trying to tell you he needs to do something to balance out
Aug 17th 2012
75
                                         i'm not arguing the top 5 part, I'm arguing the pick your team part
Aug 17th 2012
81
                                              i dunno. i guess i feel like what happened to the knicks
Aug 17th 2012
89
                                                   of course it wasn't. most fagents moves arent winning is everything
Aug 17th 2012
94
                                    The Knicks did win a game against Miami
Aug 17th 2012
67
                                         i am aware he won one game this year. good for him.
Aug 17th 2012
73
                                              You Realize That One Of Those Losses
Aug 17th 2012
151
                                                   i do
Aug 17th 2012
152
top 5 worst playoff %. top 2 worst playoff losing streak of all time
Aug 17th 2012
15
http://tinyurl.com/8gaqosp
Aug 17th 2012
24
he averaged 28 and 8 in the playoffs against Boston last year
Aug 17th 2012
18
      what were his stats against boston in wins?
Aug 17th 2012
29
           Boston had the better and healthier team
Aug 17th 2012
31
           i did not say sucked in games that matter
Aug 17th 2012
37
                aight, I misread that then
Aug 17th 2012
39
           love he just skipped last yr too
Aug 17th 2012
32
                I didn't skip anything.....the 28 and 8 was last year
Aug 17th 2012
36
                     u typed boston twice....must be nervous
Aug 17th 2012
43
Top 3 maybe GOAT nm.
Aug 17th 2012
20
about 3rd or 4th place in the Atlantic n/m
Aug 17th 2012
25
http://tinyurl.com/9vzzp22
Aug 17th 2012
26
lol
Aug 17th 2012
33
http://blacksportsonline.com/index/tmac.gif
Aug 17th 2012
35
lolz
Aug 17th 2012
44
lmao damn man :(
Aug 17th 2012
71
http://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/celeb-rundown-7-2.gif?w=350
Aug 17th 2012
38
your best one yet
Aug 17th 2012
146
You ain't wanna bet tho nm.
Aug 17th 2012
40
sure I do, guess u missed it:
Aug 17th 2012
42
      Oh after the trade? lol
Aug 17th 2012
46
           football was more pressing pre-trade, consider it booked
Aug 17th 2012
50
oops
Mar 04th 2013
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Lets see...1)Lebron...2)Durant...3)Howard...4)Wade...5)CP3
Aug 17th 2012
49
i assumed this was if he's top10 today, not if he has top10
Aug 17th 2012
51
ok, right today, tell me on my list who he's better than? (I'll wait)
Aug 17th 2012
52
      let me get u a snickers bar. that dolt ain't coming back
Aug 17th 2012
59
      dirk and parker definitely.
Aug 17th 2012
62
      You're clearly out of your mind if you think Dirk even at 33 is not bett...
Aug 17th 2012
74
           this is as good a place as any
Aug 17th 2012
77
           as if I need you co-signing off on my opinions lol
Aug 17th 2012
82
           lol noted. reasonable minds can agree on OE's assessment
Aug 17th 2012
83
           ok and, Melo averaged 28 more boards and assists against better
Aug 17th 2012
78
           disrupted the offense all season, huh?
Aug 17th 2012
79
                RE: disrupted the offense all season, huh?
Aug 17th 2012
85
                     how are the players acting like they won the chip?
Aug 17th 2012
88
                     yeah all they did was hang around on the court huggin like they really
Aug 17th 2012
93
                          so staying on the court to hug after a victory is celebrating like you
Aug 17th 2012
97
                               would Kobe/Garnett/Lebron/ or any elite player celebrated a win when
Aug 17th 2012
102
                                    Please show me where melo is celebrating or where anyone is
Aug 17th 2012
112
                                         I guess you didn't watch that game...I can promise you I'm not abt
Aug 17th 2012
116
                                              lol what? i posted a link for you player. lol
Aug 17th 2012
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                                                   ok, that's fine and I actually watched the game n/m
Aug 17th 2012
119
                                                        lmao...really? that's all you got. just admit you saw streamers and
Aug 17th 2012
120
                                                             The team and the fans were celebrating not getting swept for the 2ned
Aug 17th 2012
122
                                                                  please show me where the team was celebrating.
Aug 17th 2012
123
                                                                  weren't they all standing up and waving towels?
Aug 17th 2012
129
                                                                       Lol yes they were standing, no they weren't waving towels
Aug 17th 2012
136
                                                                            lol guess Vee and spm sharing that snickers cause they sho' aint
Aug 20th 2012
233
                     RE: disrupted the offense all season, huh?
Aug 17th 2012
98
      nvm he came back and said something dumb
Aug 17th 2012
66
damn he only shot 42% last yr? wtf
Aug 17th 2012
54
he's a career 45% fg shooter and has NEVER been a candidate for
Aug 17th 2012
57
yea it's really not up for debate. i mean we have a DECADE of
Aug 17th 2012
64
he shot 43%, but you realize AI shot 42% for his career, right?
Aug 17th 2012
80
      smh - Melo is 6-8 230 vs AI barely 6-0 and 160 lbs...Iverson was at
Aug 17th 2012
87
      so basically Iverson has a low basketball IQ
Aug 17th 2012
128
      Never hear that argument against Braun gigantic ass....
Aug 17th 2012
153
      lol @ batting 1000...you struck out looking when you lied about melo
Aug 17th 2012
154
      brandon jennings and larry hughes shot even worst
Aug 17th 2012
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           I know, right lol...mofos in here rounding his fg pct. up 1/10 of a poin...
Aug 17th 2012
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           no, you misquoted his FG% down 1/10 of a point
Aug 17th 2012
135
           ...and? AI shot worst than Melo.
Aug 17th 2012
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                and he'll still go down in basketball lore as a better scorer than Melo
Aug 17th 2012
121
                it's an agenda.....it has to be about something :)
Aug 17th 2012
125
               
Aug 17th 2012
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                Lol that's why melo got your panties up ya ass? Lmao how sad
Aug 17th 2012
141
                smh, i cant believe this is the origins of your Melo hate
Aug 17th 2012
156
                lol
Aug 17th 2012
147
                     I'll take some cheese with them pleas
Aug 18th 2012
163
                     And his career PER still better than Pierce.
Aug 18th 2012
199
                     lulz.
Aug 19th 2012
230
he's better than Parker
Aug 17th 2012
58
gtfoh - Parker was a serious candidate for MVP last season and any
Aug 17th 2012
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define "serious candidate"
Aug 17th 2012
86
meaning there were plenty of ppl who thought he could've won it
Aug 17th 2012
100
      again....Parker was 5th in MVP votes, Melo was 6th in 2010
Aug 17th 2012
142
I love how before last season ppl laughed at Parker as even a top 5 PG
Aug 17th 2012
126
      lmao pretty much.
Aug 17th 2012
144
      my stance on parker hasn't changed in the past 2-3 years
Aug 17th 2012
145
he really isn't. 2010s tony is a lot like melo.
Aug 17th 2012
70
honestly, Melo may be the most one-dimensional of today's stars
Aug 17th 2012
60
while i can agree with most of what you said, this always makes me
Aug 17th 2012
69
LOOOOOOOL @ WADE AT #4
Aug 17th 2012
63
just wait til the upcoming season and we will revisit this post again
Aug 17th 2012
76
      Melo didnt have nagging injuries?
Aug 17th 2012
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           yep, you're exacly right on w/that analysis, and yet Melo still isn't
Aug 17th 2012
114
you are such an idiot...
Aug 17th 2012
65
lmao He shoot 43% last season and his career average is 45% and
Aug 17th 2012
90
      i wonder what Kobe shoots from the field...
Aug 17th 2012
124
what have CP3 & D-Will accomplished moreso than Melo?
Aug 17th 2012
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      cp3 has
Aug 17th 2012
84
      I guess you could counter w/ Melo reaching the conference finals
Aug 17th 2012
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      Are you really asking that question right now??
Aug 17th 2012
96
      well they both are much better fathers for 1......
Aug 17th 2012
103
           trollin hard
Aug 17th 2012
149
he's shockingly close to top five, with the people hurt
Aug 17th 2012
95
Honestly if were talking RIGHT TODAY I don't know if you put Dirk...
Aug 17th 2012
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      please. dirk won a ring 14 months ago with only terry and chandler
Aug 18th 2012
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           Lmao um, thats what truth jus said
Aug 18th 2012
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damn, melo really is top 3 hated on here tho. lol
Aug 17th 2012
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melo is basically nas.
Aug 17th 2012
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Iverson
Aug 17th 2012
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      iverson doesn't have an illmatic.
Aug 17th 2012
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           and Melo does? 2001 AI is more Illmatic than any Melo season so far
Aug 17th 2012
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                The season where he outgunned VC's Raptors in the ECF finals?
Aug 17th 2012
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                lol, no. And no I ain't wasting time arguing with u about it either
Aug 18th 2012
167
                uh, they beat the bucks in the ECF and fuck no, fuck u thinkin?
Feb 24th 2014
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                syracuse duh.
Aug 17th 2012
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                     don't 'duh' me & then bring up college, FOH
Aug 18th 2012
169
                          it's a pretty huge part of his reputation
Aug 18th 2012
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                               probably because he loses so much at the level we're discussing
Aug 18th 2012
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                                    sooo....melo lost?
Aug 18th 2012
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Told You Man
Aug 18th 2012
168
Platinum Plus (c) Ross
Aug 17th 2012
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And to be truthful, fam, I don't dislike Melo, I've said over and over o...
Aug 17th 2012
106
      he's not enough of a threat to hate really
Aug 17th 2012
133
third tier.
Aug 17th 2012
105
oh, you going for the jugular, huh? lmmao
Aug 17th 2012
107
right? there's a lot to digest.
Aug 17th 2012
111
can't tell if trolling or
Aug 17th 2012
109
he's a parody poster.
Aug 17th 2012
130
http://i.imgur.com/sv5Vk.gif
Aug 17th 2012
115
Agenda overload up in this bitch
Aug 17th 2012
132
man this is one of the best posts here in awhile
Aug 17th 2012
158
I'd say top 10 is fair
Aug 17th 2012
143
I am entertained
Aug 17th 2012
155
but are you impressed
Aug 18th 2012
159
      ROFL
Aug 18th 2012
181
Not top 10, man scorers are overrated.
Aug 17th 2012
157
you guys have a good time?
Aug 18th 2012
160
Top 40.
Aug 18th 2012
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Nothing wrong with having him in the top 10.
Aug 18th 2012
162
RE: Where do you have Melo right now?
Aug 18th 2012
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THESE GUNS ARE BLAZING FOLKS
Aug 18th 2012
165
Lmao this is good hate
Aug 18th 2012
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RE: Where do you have Melo right now?
Aug 18th 2012
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Wait, What?
Aug 18th 2012
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RE: Wait, What?
Aug 18th 2012
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      lmao @ his sneaks not selling
Aug 18th 2012
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      LOL. You Are Officially "Mad"
Aug 18th 2012
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46% career shooter
Aug 18th 2012
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      RE: 46% career shooter
Aug 18th 2012
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           .456 = 46%
Aug 18th 2012
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                should be noted he had his best yr shooting playing with AI
Aug 18th 2012
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                RE: .456 = 46%
Aug 18th 2012
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                     LOL, this is hilarious and amazing
Aug 18th 2012
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                     RE: LOL, this is hilarious and amazing
Aug 18th 2012
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                          keep going!
Aug 18th 2012
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                               RE: keep going!
Aug 18th 2012
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                     if it's not important, then get it right in the first place
Aug 18th 2012
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                          RE: if it's not important, then get it right in the first place
Aug 18th 2012
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                               you brought numbers into it
Aug 18th 2012
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                                    RE: you brought numbers into it
Aug 18th 2012
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                                         you know what you did
Aug 18th 2012
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                                              RE: you know what you did
Aug 18th 2012
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                                                   i already listed his %'s by season up above
Aug 18th 2012
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                                                        RE: i already listed his %'s by season up above
Aug 18th 2012
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Top 15
Aug 18th 2012
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RE: Top 15
Aug 18th 2012
197
Aside from Deron, hasn't everyone on that list had a big role...
Aug 18th 2012
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      RE: Aside from Deron, hasn't everyone on that list had a big role...
Aug 18th 2012
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      RE: Aside from Deron, hasn't everyone on that list had a big role...
Aug 18th 2012
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           RE: Aside from Deron, hasn't everyone on that list had a big role...
Aug 18th 2012
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                RE: Aside from Deron, hasn't everyone on that list had a big role...
Aug 18th 2012
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                     RE: Aside from Deron, hasn't everyone on that list had a big role...
Aug 18th 2012
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                          RE: Aside from Deron, hasn't everyone on that list had a big role...
Aug 18th 2012
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                               got nothing^^^
Aug 18th 2012
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                                    I would for sure take Wade, Kobe, Dirk over Melo right today
Aug 18th 2012
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      at least half the guys on that list played with superior players than me...
Aug 18th 2012
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           RE: at least half the guys on that list played with superior players tha...
Aug 18th 2012
221
people are arguing Bynum over melo now? cmon.
Aug 20th 2012
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      i get the bynum love cause he's a big man wit moves but i agree.
Aug 20th 2012
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It's funny to me that some people seem to have him moving UP
Aug 18th 2012
194
where is the he AINT SHIT option?
Aug 18th 2012
195
Any post with all stah denying math is gold
Aug 18th 2012
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Lol..like math is a theory..rounding hasn't been proven!!!!
Aug 18th 2012
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      RE: Lol..like math is a theory..rounding hasn't been proven!!!!
Aug 18th 2012
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           cmon
Aug 19th 2012
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                Lol
Aug 19th 2012
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Wait. We're talking all time or CURRENTLY?
Aug 18th 2012
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RE: Wait. We're talking all time or CURRENTLY?
Aug 18th 2012
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A lot of comments gettin bookmarked
Aug 18th 2012
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did NOTHING in big games
Aug 18th 2012
219
oh, no, but he 'saved the Olympics!'
May 20th 2013
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^^^^ stealing brons mental notes
Aug 18th 2012
222
Rondo is not a top 10 player.
Aug 19th 2012
224
How you figure? More prolific, more efficient, more reliable
Aug 19th 2012
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      Alright... maybe he's a little better right today.
Aug 19th 2012
228
           Comparable, sure, noteworthy now, not yet, but still ...
Aug 20th 2012
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                I've made note of this before.
Aug 20th 2012
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Top 5 easily
Aug 19th 2012
227
Wait, Bron and Durant are not firmly in your top 5???
Aug 20th 2012
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FOH
Nov 30th 2012
244
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8no6flTJd1r7okhbo1_250.gif
Aug 19th 2012
229
Well, this is the year for him to prove his worth
Aug 19th 2012
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are ya'll being serious about Deron and Westbrook?
Aug 20th 2012
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my top 10.
Aug 20th 2012
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http://i.imgur.com/1TQvC.gif
Nov 29th 2012
240
LOL^^^
Nov 30th 2012
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top 25.
Nov 30th 2012
242
http://i.imgur.com/eTYxa.gif
Dec 11th 2012
245
He moved up. Top 500.
Dec 11th 2012
He moved up. Top 500.
Dec 11th 2012
247
Nigga Please! (c) Shonuff
Dec 11th 2012
248
"Denver Nugget type of fellow I push the Carmelo..."
Dec 11th 2012
249
M V P
Dec 12th 2012
250
numero uno this season.
Dec 12th 2012
251
lol nice up
Dec 12th 2012
252
#MeloVP
Dec 14th 2012
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MVP
Feb 08th 2013
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RE: MVP
Feb 09th 2013
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bitch ass who punches and runs *shrugs*
Feb 09th 2013
258
Oh dont mind Melo, he's just leading the league in scoring lolz
Mar 03rd 2013
260
first time for everything
Mar 04th 2013
266
lulz
Mar 04th 2013
268
      Actually, a bigger nerd than you said he's the best passer in the league...
Mar 05th 2013
270
Amare wasn't at the rim today when Bron blew by him for that game
Mar 03rd 2013
262
So Melo still not in your top 10 huh?
Mar 03rd 2013
263
GOAT/Top 3 all time
Mar 03rd 2013
264
UPDATE
Mar 04th 2013
267
harden is definitely better than melo.
Mar 04th 2013
269
I dont like this man, we stopped playing Fantasy bball and you
Apr 02nd 2013
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      how you think i got into this?
Apr 03rd 2013
273
i fucked up. L
May 20th 2013
315
      What Chris Paul do to deserve better than 'Melo?
May 20th 2013
325
FIFTY.
Apr 02nd 2013
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Top 15.....I guess
Apr 03rd 2013
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whoopty-damn-do(c)Derrick 'Once Top 15 Too' Coleman
Apr 03rd 2013
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      Lol...firmly entrenched in Top 15
Apr 03rd 2013
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depending on what d12 looks like on another team melo may
Apr 03rd 2013
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LOOOOOL, lotta yall need to own up to the fact that you were wrong
Apr 05th 2013
278
http://i.imgur.com/NaihjuN.jpg
Apr 05th 2013
279
Lets up when the Knicks fucking flop in the 'offs
Apr 05th 2013
280
Bron, Durant, Parker, Wade and then Mello
Apr 06th 2013
281
Bron is two folds better than the next in line.....#nocontest
Apr 06th 2013
282
Melo will win Scoring Champion
Apr 15th 2013
283
If Melo isn't in your top 5, you probably know little about basketball.
Apr 17th 2013
284
His Sneaks Don't Sell Though
Apr 18th 2013
285
LOL
Apr 18th 2013
286
top 5 lmao? that's some clown shit
May 20th 2013
293
LOL!
May 20th 2013
295
Top 3 SFs: LeBron, Durant, Melo
Apr 18th 2013
287
dope season by Melo...def solidified top 10 status (only idiots doubted)
May 20th 2013
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i don't see how u can omit him from the top 5-10
May 20th 2013
289
this makes you an elite scorer, not player
May 20th 2013
290
      Monta Ellis is also an elite scorer
May 20th 2013
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           Stop making sense. No place for that here.
May 20th 2013
297
           ^^^Gets it
May 20th 2013
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           you're saying that melo is a better scorer than monta ellis?
May 20th 2013
299
           lol what a troll
May 20th 2013
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           as far as current scorers go, I'd put Monta very highly man
May 20th 2013
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                monta is bad.
May 21st 2013
332
           feel free to remind henry abbott he said bogut for monte=tanking
May 20th 2013
323
Still Top 5.
May 20th 2013
294
agreed!
May 20th 2013
296
      I admit: He's no Danilo Galinari
May 20th 2013
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           agreed again!
May 20th 2013
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                Weird how the Knicks got better when Gallo left and Carmelo arrived
May 20th 2013
310
I can't call it, I feel like a disappointed dad after that April run
May 20th 2013
303
I'd take these people over Melo honestly if I were building
May 20th 2013
304
c'mon...
May 20th 2013
305
Lach said building a team.
May 20th 2013
317
LOL @ most of this list
May 20th 2013
319
      don't get into the specifics of who won what
May 20th 2013
320
           but we're talking about today not history
May 20th 2013
324
As of right today, I have him out of the playoffs....n/m
May 20th 2013
306
I have him ahead of Parker in the MVP voting
May 20th 2013
307
      I have Parker still playing in mid-May & CarameLLo home eating
May 20th 2013
308
      Iverson is home crossing over a bottle of Johnnie Walker
May 20th 2013
309
      cmon, that's not fair
May 20th 2013
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      there's a difference between what u imagine & what we all actually see
May 20th 2013
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           Yeah, I'm under your skin. I'm not letting up, though.
May 20th 2013
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                nah, I was rolling along in a good groove at that time yesterday
May 21st 2013
331
      This shit ain't tennis
May 20th 2013
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           Nope! JR Smith > Ginobli; Chandler > Duncan.
May 20th 2013
314
           with pop? in 2013? i think i would rather have j.r. than ginobili
May 21st 2013
329
           it ain't that Metal-Milk-Bottle game at the County Fair booth either
May 20th 2013
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                Nah, you're right about this.
May 20th 2013
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                     O, you strike me as a thoughtful dude...
May 20th 2013
326
                          AI banged a female friend of his at Howard & Cru Thik beat up his boys
May 21st 2013
330
      if the knicks played the warriors melo mighta gone 40 and 12 and lost
May 21st 2013
328
I have him in this gif
May 20th 2013
318
i guess i missed this post in its initial theatrical release...
May 21st 2013
333
Top 100
May 21st 2013
334
'Denver Nugget type of fellow I push the Carmelo...'
Jan 24th 2014
335
9th place in the Leastern Conference
Jan 24th 2014
336
Oddly, even anti-Carmelo folks says he's having a better yr than last
Jan 24th 2014
337
http://oi44.tinypic.com/s24n76.jpg
Jan 25th 2014
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http://i.minus.com/iv4PxkwoKT2WH.gif
Jan 25th 2014
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Melo is not top 5 though
Feb 23rd 2014
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RE: Melo is not top 5 though
Feb 23rd 2014
341
new york ain't making the playoffs
Feb 23rd 2014
342
PG only avg 3.4 assists a game.
Feb 24th 2014
343
I've never thought of him as a ballhandler
Feb 24th 2014
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interesting to look side by side...
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Its comedy...Carmelo is having a SPECTACULAR season
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      lol it really puts the melo vs. pg thing in perspective
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           PG is a great young player, and not as good as Carmelo Anthony
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                yeah george is good, but he has a crapload of help lol
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                     Indiana damn loaded top to bottom
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                          Cleveland has 3 players better than any non-Carmelo Knick
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                          Knicks should be better than whatever the hell their record is
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                          Cleveland Shouldn't Be
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Los Angeles
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melmag
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1. "he's currently at #8 for me"
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Bron, D12, Kobe, CP3, Durant, Wade, and Rose all better

  

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246. "RE: he's currently at #8 for me"
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Right now? Top 5....Easily...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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2. "Top 10 player; Top 3 scorer. "
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Playing in one of the great swingman eras
ever

Having a fabulous career and easily en route
for the Hall of Fame



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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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5. "pretty much."
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>
>Playing in one of the great swingman eras
>ever
>
>Having a fabulous career and easily en route
>for the Hall of Fame
>
>
>

>
>
>
>
>

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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10. "this is fair"
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188. "agree "
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3. "if he's in your top 10 you probably didn't think it thru"
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or you don't know shit about ball
either one

flat out better:
bron
kobe
dwight
rose
cp3
deron
rondo
durant
westbrook

better but might not be in 2014:
wade
dirk
duncan
gasol


not better but will be in 2014:
irving
griffin
bynum
davis
love
possibly ibeka and/or harden

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4. "not sure which one of your lists is most funny"
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prolly this one:

not better but will be in 2014:
irving
griffin
bynum
davis
love
possibly ibeka and/or harden

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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8. "here are two lists that are HILARIOUS......."
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top 5 selections from 2003 draft with a ring:
wade
bron
bosh
darko



top 5 selections from 2003 draft with out a ring:
melo

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6. "and where the fuck is tony. "
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12. "yup. this was off the top of my head. add parker in there too"
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9. "http://tinyurl.com/9n86w8j"
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http://tinyurl.com/9n86w8j

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11. "lmao"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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16. "LOL, Duncan? "
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Harden and Ibaka will be better in 2014?

C'mon. Let's just name every good player in the league and claim they're better than Melo or "will be".

  

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21. "the knicks wouldn't have been a 7th seed if you replace melo with"
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duncan
sorry it's true.
and i'd rather have ibeka right NOW over melo
don't even like harden but his profile will be bigger by then

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108. "We talkin bout profiles? Not his game? But profiles now?"
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>don't even like harden but his profile will be bigger by then
>

  

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23. "You are insane."
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>or you don't know shit about ball
>either one
>
>flat out better:

>kobe
>rose
>rondo
>westbrook
>
>better but might not be in 2014:
>dirk
>duncan
>gasol
>
>
>not better but will be in 2014:
>irving
>griffin
>bynum
>davis
>love
>possibly ibeka and/or harden


---
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27. "You are mad."
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30. "Kobe? FOH"
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---
"People that need positivity around them all the time are weak individuals in my book" - @lilduval

  

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28. "GASOL???? "
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>or you don't know shit about ball
>either one
>
>flat out better:
>bron
>kobe
>dwight
>rose
>cp3
>deron
>rondo
>durant
>westbrook
>
>better but might not be in 2014:
>wade
>dirk
>duncan
>gasol
>
>
>not better but will be in 2014:
>irving
>griffin
>bynum
>davis
>love
>possibly ibeka and/or harden
>

  

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243. "MVPau"
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

=======================================
Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html

  

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148. "Even with some questionable names on there... that's still 10 on there"
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..that'd I'd take over Melo eaaaaaaaasy

  

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253. "pls do not post about basketball ever again."
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or you don't know shit about ball
either one

flat out better:
bron
kobe
dwight
rose
cp3
deron
rondo
durant
westbrook

better but might not be in 2014:
wade
dirk
duncan
gasol


not better but will be in 2014:
irving
griffin
bynum
davis
love
possibly ibeka and/or harden

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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257. "ima lurker"
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and honestly youre a funny dude. but this list has made me disregard your basketball opinion from here on out. absolutely insane if you think melo is worse than everyone on your list.
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259. "Lmao, this post gets more hilarious with age"
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>or you don't know shit about ball
>either one
>
>flat out better:
>bron
>kobe
>dwight
>rose
>cp3
>deron
>rondo
>durant
>westbrook
>
>better but might not be in 2014:
>wade
>dirk
>duncan
>gasol
>
>
>not better but will be in 2014:
>irving
>griffin
>bynum
>davis
>love
>possibly ibeka and/or harden
>

  

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261. "update...."
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>>or you don't know shit about ball
>>either one
>>
>>flat out better:
>>bron
>>kobe
>>dwight
>>rose - injured but probably will be better when he gets back
>>cp3
>>durant
>>westbrook
>>wade
>>irving
>>harden

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7. "so melo has a week of games as good as he will"
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for the rest of his career.

then fadesish in the games that matter. in the format he's best at.

and apparently that warrants top 5 from some of yall?

  

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13. "The last time he was on a good, healthy team..."
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...he was giving a loaded Lakers team all they
could handle in the Western Conference Finals.

Not really a debate.


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22. "i'm not disputing melo can play LIKE a top 5 player"
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b-side "if only melo could have picked his team"

  

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56. "that had more to do w/Chauncey, you idiot and everyone who talks"
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abt that one season in which they got past the 1rd admits that except you lmao

quit plea coppin and just admit compared to his contemporaries he has underachieved

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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139. "Actually, had to do with not having Iverson"
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But nah, it was Carmleo's team

I'd be mad if I was you

That team was better than any AI team
by about a mile

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14. "i'm sure no one is voting that based off the olympics"
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assuming that is what you are talking about.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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17. "well melo certainly hasn't been a top 5 player for the knicks"
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so you tell me

  

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19. "its not my opinion but i'd be really really surprised if people's opinio..."
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changed b.c of the olympics.

then again, there's an idiot up there that said that 'ibeka' will be better in 2014 so....

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34. "i don't think it changed anyone's opinions"
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but i think it's the kind of high point that people remember instead of looking at the big picture.

you can look at that and the stats and say "well he's a solid 2nd/3rd team all nba and sometimes he steps it up."

but melo-moments seem to get people transfixed.

even if they can't possibly make him top 5 when (doing more or less what he does) bron and dirk have won titles and durant has gotten to the finals during his time in the league. even pierce and ray managed to claw their way up there.

  

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41. "all those guys have had better teams then melo has had in ny./"
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i'm not a melo defender so i ain't gonna comment on denver, i just know what happened in ny.

those teams were light years better than the injured teams melo has had in the playoffs.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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45. "when you're a "top 5" player and pick your team"
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that is not an excuse.

old players and rentals and cap moves and ring chasers can't get their shit together and/or stay healthy? i'm surprised as shit.

the knicks are just the heat without lebron after all.

and boston dealt with that shit and won some series. l.a. gonna deal with that shit too.

  

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47. "oh the irony...Melo's teammates aren't good enough"
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:/

bwhahahahaha

and smh @ the bar being set at rings
melo needs to concentrate on securing something better than a 7th seed so he might make it out of the 1st round for the 2nd time in his life
baby steps
can't set the expectations so high for a dude who can't guide a team to 1st round home court in the shitty eastern conf.

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48. "huh? i'm not sure what you are talking bout but"
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2 years ago knicks had injuries to

amare - starting pf
billups - starting pg

last season

amare - starting pf
lin - starting pg
shumpert - starting sg
davis - backup pg

Please tell me what superstar in the nba is winning a playoff series with those type of injuries?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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53. "please tell me which superstar wouldn't win A GAME"
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55. "bwhahahaahah"
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61. "knicks beat miami last year with all those inijuries"
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they got swept against boston. You tryna tell me a superstar never got swept before with multiple injuries against a stacked team?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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75. "i'm trying to tell you he needs to do something to balance out"
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and overcome those failures before he gets to be top 5.

  

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81. "i'm not arguing the top 5 part, I'm arguing the pick your team part"
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the team he 'picked' has had severe injuries. You've failed to acknowledge that. Sure, if he came to the knicks as is and they've lost with the main components of that team, then using the teammates as a reason would be unfair, but when you are missing your starting pf and pg or your starting pf,sg, pg and backup pg, for parts or all of a series and you want to ignore it, its kinda disingenuous on your part.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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89. "i dunno. i guess i feel like what happened to the knicks"
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was obviously in the pipe-line. i'm amazed miami worked out. i still think the lakers will implode.

it wasn't a move that screamed "winning is the bottom line" to me. before that i was all-in on melo. how could i not be and still root for durant?


  

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94. "of course it wasn't. most fagents moves arent winning is everything"
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moves. Why is this a standard we're holding only to melo lmao.

besides miami and boston's big 3's what moves did scream winning is everything to you?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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67. "The Knicks did win a game against Miami"
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with Melo dropping 41.

  

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73. "i am aware he won one game this year. good for him. "
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i am also aware he got swept the year before.

  

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151. "You Realize That One Of Those Losses"
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He dropped 42pts, 17rebs and 6asts
He passed to Jeffries that blew a layup at the buzzer (and KG scored on him after Melo gave them the lead)

Saying he's swept just looking at that is a little disingenious

  

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152. "i do"
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it's not disingenuous at all to say he got swept because his ass got swept.

  

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15. "top 5 worst playoff %. top 2 worst playoff losing streak of all time"
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that about it

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24. "http://tinyurl.com/8gaqosp"
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http://tinyurl.com/8gaqosp

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18. "he averaged 28 and 8 in the playoffs against Boston last year"
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and 26, 10, and 5 against Boston two years ago.

Not his fault that all of his teammates that were any good were injured.

  

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29. "what were his stats against boston in wins?"
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we're talking top 5 so that matters. even rondo deserves a spot in the top 5 ahead of melo.

  

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31. "Boston had the better and healthier team"
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You said Melo sucks in games that matter, that's why I posted his playoff stats from the last few years.

For the record, I'd put Melo top 10 right now, not top 5.

And Rondo is nowhere near the top 5, as good as he is.

  

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37. "i did not say sucked in games that matter"
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i said he faded(ISH EVEN!) (cause he did) last week

as far as the nba..if bron or durant had the sample size of "games that matter" that melo does they would be considered busts.

  

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39. "aight, I misread that then"
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32. "love he just skipped last yr too"
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lol

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36. "I didn't skip anything.....the 28 and 8 was last year"
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43. "u typed boston twice....must be nervous"
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20. "Top 3 maybe GOAT nm."
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---
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25. "about 3rd or 4th place in the Atlantic n/m"
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26. "http://tinyurl.com/9vzzp22"
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http://tinyurl.com/9vzzp22

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33. "lol"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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35. "http://blacksportsonline.com/index/tmac.gif"
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http://blacksportsonline.com/index/tmac.gif

  

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44. "lolz"
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------------------------------------
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be about it or be without it

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71. "lmao damn man :("
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38. "http://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/celeb-rundown-7-2.gif?w=350"
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http://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/celeb-rundown-7-2.gif?w=350

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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146. "your best one yet"
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40. "You ain't wanna bet tho nm."
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---
"People that need positivity around them all the time are weak individuals in my book" - @lilduval

  

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42. "sure I do, guess u missed it:"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2000782&mesg_id=2000782&listing_type=search#2018184

  

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46. "Oh after the trade? lol"
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No problem. Book it.

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50. "football was more pressing pre-trade, consider it booked"
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>No problem. Book it.

  

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265. "oops"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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49. "Lets see...1)Lebron...2)Durant...3)Howard...4)Wade...5)CP3"
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6)Bean
7)D-Will
8)Rondo
9)Rose
10tie)Parker
10(Dirk

No one can say Melo is better than anyone of the above, not one of these players

all have accomplished more than him individually and team wise

Melo is only a scorer and not a very efficient one at that (42% last season)...he has yet to get beyond the 1st round but once (even though he's been on some pretty good teams) and he's now going into his 10th season. There has been no marked improvement in any facet of his game that doesn't include scoring...its true.

There are other players that are on the rise and will be moving him further down on that 2nd tier of players but for now he's barely better than these players (K-Love/Kyrie/Westbrook/Gasol/Aldridge/Harden)

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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51. "i assumed this was if he's top10 today, not if he has top10 "
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accomplishments

>all have accomplished more than him individually and team wise

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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52. "ok, right today, tell me on my list who he's better than? (I'll wait)"
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>accomplishments
>
>>all have accomplished more than him individually and team
>wise

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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59. "let me get u a snickers bar. that dolt ain't coming back "
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lol

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62. "dirk and parker definitely."
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you talking bout all time achievements and what not like any general manager would take dirk or parker over melo for this upcoming season.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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74. "You're clearly out of your mind if you think Dirk even at 33 is not bett..."
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than Melo...Dirk knows how to play and won't disrupt a team's offense w/his game as Melo did all last season. Dirk is still one of the purest shooters in the game and presents a mismatch whenever he's on the court. And to show you that Dirk is still a top 10 player, he averaged nearly 27ppg and shoulda WON BOTH THOSE GAMES IN OKC...

>you talking bout all time achievements and what not like any
>general manager would take dirk or parker over melo for this
>upcoming season.

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77. "this is as good a place as any "
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for me to state that while i will adamantly dispute any claim that melo is top 5, i in no way endorse vee-lover or spm's nonsense.

  

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82. "as if I need you co-signing off on my opinions lol"
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Dirk on last season's Knicks wouldn't have disrupted the offense and wouldn't need to take as many shots as Melo...and lastly, the Knicks woulda had a better season w/Dirk on their squad than they did w/Melo.


>for me to state that while i will adamantly dispute any claim
>that melo is top 5, i in no way endorse vee-lover or spm's
>nonsense.

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83. "lol noted. reasonable minds can agree on OE's assessment"
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.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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78. "ok and, Melo averaged 28 more boards and assists against better"
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defenders in the playoffs and led his team to a victory over the eventual champs last year.

> And to show you that Dirk is still a top 10 player, he averaged nearly 27ppg and shoulda WON BOTH THOSE GAMES IN OKC...

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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79. "disrupted the offense all season, huh?"
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Even in that 18-6 run they went on late in the season?

Dirk averaged 27 a game and "SHOULD'VE WON"....LOL. Melo scored a lot of points and "almost" led his severely undermanned team(much worse than Dallas) to a few wins too.

Gotta love when sports fans give certain players some slack for "almosts" and "should'ves" and "weak teammates", but then go out of their way to shit on other players and give them no such slack.



  

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85. "RE: disrupted the offense all season, huh?"
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>Even in that 18-6 run they went on late in the season?

yeah, exactly when several players were INJURED and he had carte blanche to shoot as much as he wanted...but what happened when Amare came back and Jeremy Linn? ok...
>
>Dirk averaged 27 a game and "SHOULD'VE WON"....LOL. Melo
>scored a lot of points and "almost" led his severely
>undermanned team(much worse than Dallas) to a few wins too.

a few wins lolololololol...against who? the heat? did you see him and the Knicks after they won that ONE game against the Heat? they act like they won the championship lol...
>
>Gotta love when sports fans give certain players some slack
>for "almosts" and "should'ves" and "weak teammates", but then
>go out of their way to shit on other players and give them no
>such slack.


bottom line...Dirk is a better basketball player than Melo and the ONLY reason why you all are saying he isn't NOW is because Dirk is in the twilight of his career but he's always been regarded as a better player than Melo and I'd rather have him on my squad than Carmelo.

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88. "how are the players acting like they won the chip?"
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can't blame them for dumbass msg dropping streamers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLWPJtmSLYQ&feature=related

7:25mark

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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93. "yeah all they did was hang around on the court huggin like they really"
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accomplished something meaningful lmao

they save themselves from another sweep so I guess that was reason to celebrate foh

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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97. "so staying on the court to hug after a victory is celebrating like you"
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won a chip? lmao...and i'm sure the knicks were the only team to do that right and a game that went down to the buzzer? lol you sound like a bigger idiot than spm.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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102. "would Kobe/Garnett/Lebron/ or any elite player celebrated a win when"
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they were down 3-1 and still on the verge of losing 4-1? you already know the answer to that

only players who aren't used to winning do that....


>won a chip? lmao...and i'm sure the knicks were the only team
>to do that right and a game that went down to the buzzer? lol
>you sound like a bigger idiot than spm.

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112. "Please show me where melo is celebrating or where anyone is "
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hugging for that matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLWPJtmSLYQ&feature=related

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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116. "I guess you didn't watch that game...I can promise you I'm not abt "
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to search through a bunch of youtube clips to see if one has Melo hugging Jared Jeffries or whoever...

I saw the game and the entire Knicks squad was acting like they'd just won a series after winning their 1st playoff game in a DECADE...and Melo was part of that um celebration...


>hugging for that matter.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLWPJtmSLYQ&feature=related

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117. "lol what? i posted a link for you player. lol"
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here it goes again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLWPJtmSLYQ&feature=related

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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119. "ok, that's fine and I actually watched the game n/m"
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120. "lmao...really? that's all you got. just admit you saw streamers and"
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took that as the knicks players celebrating and invented melo hugging jared jeffries and i'll give you a pass.

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122. "The team and the fans were celebrating not getting swept for the 2ned"
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year in a row...and winning their 1st playoff game in a DECADE

They still lost in 5 so what all you're saying is for naught

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123. "please show me where the team was celebrating."
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lol at you throwing in other stuff like its part of this conversation.

you said knicks were celebrating like they won a chip and have no proof except for what you invented in your mind.

certainly there is some video or article clowning the knicks for celebrating like they won a chip. Can you please post it?

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129. "weren't they all standing up and waving towels?"
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136. "Lol yes they were standing, no they weren't waving towels"
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We went from celebrating like they won a chip to standing.

Lmmfao

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233. "lol guess Vee and spm sharing that snickers cause they sho' aint"
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want to come back to this. lmao.


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98. "RE: disrupted the offense all season, huh?"
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>>Even in that 18-6 run they went on late in the season?
>
>yeah, exactly when several players were INJURED and he had
>carte blanche to shoot as much as he wanted...but what
>happened when Amare came back and Jeremy Linn? ok...

Well, he shot .500 from the field and averaged 30 ppg in April, while the Knicks went 9-4....so I guess it was a good idea for him to shoot a lot at the time. The Knicks went 3-1 when Amare came back at the end of the year,and thenlost in 5 to Miami with Amare missing a game.....he wasn't healthy even when playing. Jeremy Lin never came back.....I'm starting to think you don't really know what you're talking about and are just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.



>>Dirk averaged 27 a game and "SHOULD'VE WON"....LOL. Melo
>>scored a lot of points and "almost" led his severely
>>undermanned team(much worse than Dallas) to a few wins too.
>
>a few wins lolololololol...against who? the heat? did you see
>him and the Knicks after they won that ONE game against the
>Heat? they act like they won the championship lol...

So "Dallas SHOULD'VE won twice against OKC" is all good though. LOL.


>bottom line...Dirk is a better basketball player than Melo and
>the ONLY reason why you all are saying he isn't NOW is because
>Dirk is in the twilight of his career but he's always been
>regarded as a better player than Melo and I'd rather have him
>on my squad than Carmelo.

So Dirk is still better? Or Dirk's better because he used to be better and has better career accomplishments? It's not really clear what stance you are taking.

Dirk was better. But for this coming season and beyond? I'd rather have Melo.


  

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66. "nvm he came back and said something dumb"
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54. "damn he only shot 42% last yr? wtf"
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so he's only good at 1 thing.....and he's not even good at it

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57. "he's a career 45% fg shooter and has NEVER been a candidate for"
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MVP or any significant accolade but somehow he's a top ten player....

maybe he's a top 10 talent but he is definitely NOT in the top 10 best players in the league.

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64. "yea it's really not up for debate. i mean we have a DECADE of"
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evidence here
dude's not a franchise player
i'm with you, i'd rather have a good #2 like gasol or love over dude even
doesn't play D, u can't run any sort of structured offense with him on the floor....unless it stops at him getting the ball,he's not efficient, and he's a horrible leader
no wonder they can't get out the 1st round

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80. "he shot 43%, but you realize AI shot 42% for his career, right?"
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>so he's only good at 1 thing.....and he's not even good at
>it

http://cdn.cnwimg.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/allen-iverson.jpg



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87. "smh - Melo is 6-8 230 vs AI barely 6-0 and 160 lbs...Iverson was at"
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a disadvanted every night on the floor w/players more than half a foot guarding him..

Melo, on the other hand, has size and strength over Iverson as he does over most of the ppl guarding him and he's nowhere near the scorer that Iverson was.

so try again...I'm batting a 1000% right now

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128. "so basically Iverson has a low basketball IQ"
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at least we agree on that.


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153. "Never hear that argument against Braun gigantic ass.... "
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154. "lol @ batting 1000...you struck out looking when you lied about melo"
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Celebrating

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91. "brandon jennings and larry hughes shot even worst"
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what any of that has to do with this thread about melo is beyond me
but lol @ yall skipping right over Bron and using someone that's been out the league 3 yrs as a deflection

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113. "I know, right lol...mofos in here rounding his fg pct. up 1/10 of a poin..."
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as if that makes a difference

the dude is a volume shooter no matter how you slice it

and has never been an efficient scorer (maybe that's why he and Bean get along so well)

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135. "no, you misquoted his FG% down 1/10 of a point"
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>the dude is a volume shooter no matter how you slice it
>
>and has never been an efficient scorer

good description of Iverson's career.



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118. "...and? AI shot worst than Melo."
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cry.

>but lol @ yall skipping right over Bron and using someone
>that's been out the league 3 yrs as a deflection

LOL @ you admitting your melo agenda is all about bron.


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121. "and he'll still go down in basketball lore as a better scorer than Melo"
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led the league in scoring I think 4x...3rd only to Jordan and Wilt (but Durant will surpass him putting him 4th which is still greater than Melo who has led the league in scoring how many times? Oh, ok...

AI is a top 50 greatest players

Melo? top 125




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125. "it's an agenda.....it has to be about something :)"
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when bron BLEW by that garbage ass nigga and amare blocked that shit to win the game
the media was on melo dick hard the next day
saying they rather have melo over bron and all that
i been mad ever since, now knick fans gots to deal

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127. ""
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>when bron BLEW by that garbage ass nigga and amare blocked
>that shit to win the game
>the media was on melo dick hard the next day
>saying they rather have melo over bron and all that
>i been mad ever since, now knick fans gots to deal

the only person who said that dumb shit was skip, but yeah the media as a whole was going in extra hard after that game, so fair enough I guess.


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141. "Lol that's why melo got your panties up ya ass? Lmao how sad"
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156. "smh, i cant believe this is the origins of your Melo hate"
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>when bron BLEW by that garbage ass nigga and amare blocked
>that shit to win the game
>the media was on melo dick hard the next day
>saying they rather have melo over bron and all that
>i been mad ever since, now knick fans gots to deal


Thought it had something to do with him playing with AI in Denver.

  

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147. "lol"
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criticizing iverson for low fg% is silly. those years when he was shooting 40% were when the sixers' strategy was to have him fling up shots while surrounding him with defensive players and rebounders. when GOAT played on teams when he wasn't forced to carry the whole load--both in philly and denver--his FG% normalized to a perfectly solid 45%.

1997 .461 on 18 fg (with stackhouse and coleman)
2005 .447 on 25 fg
2006 .442 on 20 fg
2007 .458 on 19 fg

of course a guy who led the league in minutes while being burdened with providing offense for a starting lineup of ratliff, snow, lynch and hill saw his inefficiency damaged.

  

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163. "I'll take some cheese with them pleas"
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Iverson is a rim clanger

Embarrassed the country

Refused to come off the bench

Nuggets got better the minute he left

  

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199. "And his career PER still better than Pierce. "
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230. "lulz."
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iverson was surrounded with defensive players and rebounders in philly because he wanted to fling up shots instead of share the ball with other scorers. glad carmelo was able to make iverson more efficient and elevated AI's season FG% to melo's career average though.


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58. "he's better than Parker"
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He's 46% from the field in his career, don't cherry pick stats. He wasn't healthy most of last year.

I remember when Garnett used to get criticized by a segment of fans for not being able to get out of the first round(but once...they overlooked his conf. finals run just like Melo's), and he was a better player in Minnesota than he was/is in Boston.

  

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68. "gtfoh - Parker was a serious candidate for MVP last season and any"
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team would take a point guard who w/championship meddle over a ball hog...

If they were both free agents, Parker would be the 1st option just as D-Will was when he and Melo were both free agents two seasons ago.




>He's 46% from the field in his career, don't cherry pick
>stats. He wasn't healthy most of last year.

dude said I'm cherry picking lmao...ok, his career average is actually 45.6% so I assume you're rounding it out
>
>I remember when Garnett used to get criticized by a segment of
>fans for not being able to get out of the first round(but
>once...they overlooked his conf. finals run just like Melo's),
>and he was a better player in Minnesota than he was/is in
>Boston.

But KG was always a terrific ALL AROUND player and everyone knew he wasn't surrounded by any real championship contending teams but he was always a 20/10/5 player and SHOT OVER 50% from the floor...

I look at Melo and I see how his game is a hindrance to his team...why do you think ppl keep saying he and Amare don't fit? because all both do is shoot the ball and nothing more. If Melo was really as good as some of you all think he is he'd figure out to adjust his game as good/great players do to accomodate his teammates but he can't because he's just a scorer, bottom line.

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86. "define "serious candidate""
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Parker finished 5th last year.....and didn't really have any chance in hell at getting it. Melo finished 6th in MVP voting in 2010, yet you said he's never been a serious candidate. So, 5th = serious candidate, but 6th = not serious candidate. FOH. Melo has been in the top 15 of MVP voting more times than Parker, and has made more All NBA teams than Parker too.




>team would take a point guard who w/championship meddle over
>a ball hog...
>
>If they were both free agents, Parker would be the 1st option
>just as D-Will was when he and Melo were both free agents two
>seasons ago.

This is absolutely laughable. You sound like a biased Spurs fan.




>>He's 46% from the field in his career, don't cherry pick
>>stats. He wasn't healthy most of last year.
>
>dude said I'm cherry picking lmao...ok, his career average is
>actually 45.6% so I assume you're rounding it out.

Yeah......when you're taking .456 down to two digits, it rounds to 46%, not 45%. That's how rounding works. That's his %, if you're going two digits. But I bet you know that, you just rounded the way you wanted, in order to support your "argument" just a little more.



>>I remember when Garnett used to get criticized by a segment
>of
>>fans for not being able to get out of the first round(but
>>once...they overlooked his conf. finals run just like
>Melo's),
>>and he was a better player in Minnesota than he was/is in
>>Boston.
>
>But KG was always a terrific ALL AROUND player and everyone
>knew he wasn't surrounded by any real championship contending
>teams but he was always a 20/10/5 player and SHOT OVER 50%
>from the floor...
>

Yeah, KG was always a terrific player.....just like Melo has been. And KG also got criticized just like Melo sometimes gets. The only difference when Minn. made the conference finals was in his teammates.....they got him Sprewell and Cassell and they both played well in 2004. Same thing with Melo and Chauncey in 2009. Put Melo on the Celtics over the last 5 years, and he'd have an NBA title too.

  

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100. "meaning there were plenty of ppl who thought he could've won it"
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based on what he did for that Spurs team, that how I defined it...

I think he got overlooked because his numbers on paper didn't look as impressive as the other candidates (18ppg 8dimes 48%fg) but using the eye test, he was just as worthy of being in the discussion as any other player


>Parker finished 5th last year.....and didn't really have any
>chance in hell at getting it. Melo finished 6th in MVP voting
>in 2010, yet you said he's never been a serious candidate.
>So, 5th = serious candidate, but 6th = not serious candidate.
>FOH. Melo has been in the top 15 of MVP voting more times
>than Parker, and has made more All NBA teams than Parker too.

you said Melo finished 6th? I'm not so sure abt that...but even if he did, I don't remember anyone making a case that he was deserving of the award (Bron probably won it that year unanimously if Melo finished 6th lol)
>
>
>
>>team would take a point guard who w/championship meddle over
>>a ball hog...
>>
>>If they were both free agents, Parker would be the 1st
>option
>>just as D-Will was when he and Melo were both free agents
>two
>>seasons ago.
>
>This is absolutely laughable. You sound like a biased Spurs
>fan.
>
>
>
>
>>>He's 46% from the field in his career, don't cherry pick
>>>stats. He wasn't healthy most of last year.
>>
>>dude said I'm cherry picking lmao...ok, his career average
>is
>>actually 45.6% so I assume you're rounding it out.
>
>Yeah......when you're taking .456 down to two digits, it
>rounds to 46%, not 45%. That's how rounding works. That's
>his %, if you're going two digits. But I bet you know that,
>you just rounded the way you wanted, in order to support your
>"argument" just a little more.

ok, good for him but in case you didnt realize, that's a HORRIBLE PCT. to shoot from the floor when you take as many shots as Melo does. There's a reason why he leads the league in "ball stoppage" when it comes to him...
>
>
>
>>>I remember when Garnett used to get criticized by a segment
>>of
>>>fans for not being able to get out of the first round(but
>>>once...they overlooked his conf. finals run just like
>>Melo's),
>>>and he was a better player in Minnesota than he was/is in
>>>Boston.
>>
>>But KG was always a terrific ALL AROUND player and everyone
>>knew he wasn't surrounded by any real championship
>contending
>>teams but he was always a 20/10/5 player and SHOT OVER 50%
>>from the floor...
>>
>
>Yeah, KG was always a terrific player.....just like Melo has
>been. And KG also got criticized just like Melo sometimes
>gets. The only difference when Minn. made the conference
>finals was in his teammates.....they got him Sprewell and
>Cassell and they both played well in 2004. Same thing with
>Melo and Chauncey in 2009. Put Melo on the Celtics over the
>last 5 years, and he'd have an NBA title too.

No, he wouldn't...because that would mean he would have to replace Pierce and there's no way he would fit w/Garnett and Allen as well as Paul Pierce did because the latter three adjusted their games to make the team better as a unit but Melo hasn'ty proven to be able to do that...so no, I don't believe for one second if you replaced him w/Paul Pierce the Celtics would've won a title.
>

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142. "again....Parker was 5th in MVP votes, Melo was 6th in 2010"
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I didn't make that up, that's a fact. I ain't even responding to that other BS you typed about that. You were wrong.

46% is not "horrible" for a small forward. It would be horrible for a PF or C who takes most of their shots in the paint, but it's not horrible for a go to SF. For the record, Paul Pierce's(who you just gave props to) career % is .448, and yes that rounds to 45%.

I absolutely believe Boston would've won if they had Melo instead of Pierce....because Melo is better than Pierce and your point that he can't play with others is pure BS. He can't win with scrubs, but he can play with others if you give him someone to play with. See 2009. See how well he fits in the Olympics and International play. You're trying to paint him with that malcontent gunner loser brush, and that's just flat out incorrect.

  

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126. "I love how before last season ppl laughed at Parker as even a top 5 PG"
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but now he's a top 10 player in the whole league just to keep Melo off the list.

shenanigans.


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144. "lmao pretty much."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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145. "my stance on parker hasn't changed in the past 2-3 years"
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he's the spurs best player. he might have gotten france a silver if he'd stayed out of the club. he provides almost exactly as much offense/defense/intangibles/goofyness as melo

  

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70. "he really isn't. 2010s tony is a lot like melo."
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in terms of how much he brings to a team. and tony did actually carry his team through the past two. with injuries and old and nobodies even.

bringing up garnett ain't saving melo either. garnett wasn't the best and he won when he got on a great team. melo prob could win a title with a legit top 5 teammate or a smattering of all stars too.

  

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60. "honestly, Melo may be the most one-dimensional of today's stars"
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Of course he's top 5 in terms of scoring ability but lawdy b when his shot isn't falling or he's struggling offensively on a whole, he becomes a bit useless at times. He's average to below average on defense, he doesn't pass or facilitate on a whole well (you can count how many double digit assist games he's had in the last few years on one hand and without some fingers), and often drifts through games only looking for his shot.

Basically, he's a tremendous scorer. Top 3 or 4 even. But he's missing IT imo.

  

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69. "while i can agree with most of what you said, this always makes me"
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laugh.

>he doesn't pass or facilitate on a whole well (you can count how many double digit assist games he's had in the last few years on one hand and without some fingers)

What #1 scoring forwards in the league besides LBJ are racking up double digit assist numbers?
I just thought of Paul pierce, not sure who else though. Point being, Paul and bron are more like the exceptions as opposed to the rule.

ie durant has never had a double digit assist game

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63. "LOOOOOOOL @ WADE AT #4"
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>6)Bean
>7)D-Will
>8)Rondo
>9)Rose
>10tie)Parker
>10(Dirk
>
>No one can say Melo is better than anyone of the above, not
>one of these players
>
>all have accomplished more than him individually and team
>wise
>
>Melo is only a scorer and not a very efficient one at that
>(42% last season)...he has yet to get beyond the 1st round but
>once (even though he's been on some pretty good teams) and
>he's now going into his 10th season. There has been no marked
>improvement in any facet of his game that doesn't include
>scoring...its true.
>
>There are other players that are on the rise and will be
>moving him further down on that 2nd tier of players but for
>now he's barely better than these players
>(K-Love/Kyrie/Westbrook/Gasol/Aldridge/Harden)
>
>

  

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76. "just wait til the upcoming season and we will revisit this post again"
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I laf at all you who are writing Wade off...

He had a legitimate excuse as to why he was up and down last season...nagging injuries/shortened season and Bron was doing his thing but this season w/rest and a full training camp I'm already on record saying Wade will have a great season and no matter where you or I rank Wade in the top, the bottom line is....HE'S STILL HEAD AND SHOULDERS BETTER THAN MELO LOL which is what we're debating



>>6)Bean
>>7)D-Will
>>8)Rondo
>>9)Rose
>>10tie)Parker
>>10(Dirk
>>
>>No one can say Melo is better than anyone of the above, not
>>one of these players
>>
>>all have accomplished more than him individually and team
>>wise
>>
>>Melo is only a scorer and not a very efficient one at that
>>(42% last season)...he has yet to get beyond the 1st round
>but
>>once (even though he's been on some pretty good teams) and
>>he's now going into his 10th season. There has been no
>marked
>>improvement in any facet of his game that doesn't include
>>scoring...its true.
>>
>>There are other players that are on the rise and will be
>>moving him further down on that 2nd tier of players but for
>>now he's barely better than these players
>>(K-Love/Kyrie/Westbrook/Gasol/Aldridge/Harden)
>>
>>
>

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110. "Melo didnt have nagging injuries?"
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>I laf at all you who are writing Wade off...
>
>He had a legitimate excuse as to why he was up and down last
>season...nagging injuries/shortened season and Bron was doing
>his thing but this season w/rest and a full training camp I'm
>already on record saying Wade will have a great season and no
>matter where you or I rank Wade in the top, the bottom line
>is....HE'S STILL HEAD AND SHOULDERS BETTER THAN MELO LOL which
>is what we're debating
>
>
>
>>>6)Bean
>>>7)D-Will
>>>8)Rondo
>>>9)Rose
>>>10tie)Parker
>>>10(Dirk
>>>
>>>No one can say Melo is better than anyone of the above, not
>>>one of these players
>>>
>>>all have accomplished more than him individually and team
>>>wise
>>>
>>>Melo is only a scorer and not a very efficient one at that
>>>(42% last season)...he has yet to get beyond the 1st round
>>but
>>>once (even though he's been on some pretty good teams) and
>>>he's now going into his 10th season. There has been no
>>marked
>>>improvement in any facet of his game that doesn't include
>>>scoring...its true.
>>>
>>>There are other players that are on the rise and will be
>>>moving him further down on that 2nd tier of players but for
>>>now he's barely better than these players
>>>(K-Love/Kyrie/Westbrook/Gasol/Aldridge/Harden)
>>>
>>>
>>
>


I mean if anything Melo has more excuses than Wade.

  

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114. "yep, you're exacly right on w/that analysis, and yet Melo still isn't"
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better than Wade...so go figure.

Wade will BALL OUT THIS SEASON...WATCH AND SEE

That dude is a competitor and I'm sure he didn't like ppl writing him off last season and saying he's lost a step as well as the criticism in the postseason he got and ppl saying the Heat were a better team w/o him. I think this will quietly motivate him to come back w/a strong season and shut up all the naysayers. Now that we know after the fact that he was hurt most of the season, he deserves a past imo

A healthy Wade is easily top 5 as far as I'm concerned.



>>I laf at all you who are writing Wade off...
>>
>>He had a legitimate excuse as to why he was up and down last
>>season...nagging injuries/shortened season and Bron was
>doing
>>his thing but this season w/rest and a full training camp
>I'm
>>already on record saying Wade will have a great season and
>no
>>matter where you or I rank Wade in the top, the bottom line
>>is....HE'S STILL HEAD AND SHOULDERS BETTER THAN MELO LOL
>which
>>is what we're debating
>>
>>
>>
>>>>6)Bean
>>>>7)D-Will
>>>>8)Rondo
>>>>9)Rose
>>>>10tie)Parker
>>>>10(Dirk
>>>>
>>>>No one can say Melo is better than anyone of the above,
>not
>>>>one of these players
>>>>
>>>>all have accomplished more than him individually and team
>>>>wise
>>>>
>>>>Melo is only a scorer and not a very efficient one at that
>>>>(42% last season)...he has yet to get beyond the 1st round
>>>but
>>>>once (even though he's been on some pretty good teams) and
>>>>he's now going into his 10th season. There has been no
>>>marked
>>>>improvement in any facet of his game that doesn't include
>>>>scoring...its true.
>>>>
>>>>There are other players that are on the rise and will be
>>>>moving him further down on that 2nd tier of players but
>for
>>>>now he's barely better than these players
>>>>(K-Love/Kyrie/Westbrook/Gasol/Aldridge/Harden)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>I mean if anything Melo has more excuses than Wade.
>
>

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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65. "you are such an idiot..."
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First off the 43% he shot last season, was the worst he had since his rookie year. He is a career 45% shooter from the field.

He has had better rebounding numbers and blocked shots since leaving Denver which would lead the average person to believe he has played more defense.


Melo is easily top 10.

The only player who are better than him clearly are Bron, Durant, Howard, Paul, Love and Rose

You can argue right today that he is better than Kobe all around and Deron as well as Rondo


Bynum would round out my top 10



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90. "lmao He shoot 43% last season and his career average is 45% and"
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you in here posting like that's some major difference...




>First off the 43% he shot last season, was the worst he had
>since his rookie year. He is a career 45% shooter from the
>field.
>
>He has had better rebounding numbers and blocked shots since
>leaving Denver which would lead the average person to believe
>he has played more defense.

ok, tell me what they were last season and lets see how significant the differences are compared to what he did in Denver? his numbers are relatively the same
>
>
>Melo is easily top 10.
>
>The only player who are better than him clearly are Bron,
>Durant, Howard, Paul, Love and Rose
>
>You can argue right today that he is better than Kobe all
>around and Deron as well as Rondo
>
>
>Bynum would round out my top 10

I can't even respond to the rest of that nonsense....

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124. "i wonder what Kobe shoots from the field..."
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72. "what have CP3 & D-Will accomplished moreso than Melo?"
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I couldn't think of anything off the top...
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84. "cp3 has"
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rookie of the year
several first team all nba
multiple defensive team awards
led league in steals and assists
better playoff win percentage and all around stats
the same shitty franchise and injury excuses, but he'd probably get irate if you mentioned excuses to him.

i'm pretty sure team melo includes a lot of the better! crowd so we could prob have em argue themselves, but i'm fine with both being nebulous top 10ish guys.

  

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92. "I guess you could counter w/ Melo reaching the conference finals"
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Top 5 scorer in the league past few years..
Helped Knicks achieve their 1st winning season in 10 years & 1st playoff birth after missing 6 str8 years.

I'm not for or against anyone per say but Melo has a few accomplishments.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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96. "Are you really asking that question right now??"
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CP3 SHOULD ALREADY HAVE ONE MVP ON HIS RESUME

Yes, he deserved the one Kobe got in 2008 and finished in the top 5 last season voting...

he's been out of the 1st round more than one time and hasn't been in the league as long as Melo. He immediately turned the CLIPPERS AROUND FROM BEING THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE LEAGUE TO A SERIOUS CONTENDER IN THE WEST...

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103. "well they both are much better fathers for 1......"
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149. "trollin hard"
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95. "he's shockingly close to top five, with the people hurt"
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think about it: bron, howard, durant, cp3.

after that, i have a group that includes melo, kobe, deron, and rondo. and i think that goes in that order, so i do have melo in the top five.

if rose wasn't hurt he'd be fourth or fifth, but he's hurt.

EDIT: fuck, i forgot dirk, who's fourth. melo 6.

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150. "Honestly if were talking RIGHT TODAY I don't know if you put Dirk..."
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up that high, I think that dude has checked out now that he has a ring

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214. "please. dirk won a ring 14 months ago with only terry and chandler"
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220. "Lmao um, thats what truth jus said"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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99. "damn, melo really is top 3 hated on here tho. lol"
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people bringing out the irrational stuff like this is bron/kobe.

They were hugging after a playoff victory NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE!!!

lmao stfu please.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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104. "melo is basically nas. "
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134. "iverson doesn't have an illmatic. "
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137. "and Melo does? 2001 AI is more Illmatic than any Melo season so far"
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and likely ever.

  

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138. "The season where he outgunned VC's Raptors in the ECF finals? "
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LOL

Carmelo's 2009 Nuggets teams smashes that
Sixers team

Smashes

  

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167. "lol, no. And no I ain't wasting time arguing with u about it either"
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>
>LOL
>
>Carmelo's 2009 Nuggets teams smashes that
>Sixers team
>
>Smashes
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344. "uh, they beat the bucks in the ECF and fuck no, fuck u thinkin?"
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they swept the awards that year for a reason, they had a helluva season. those nuggets were nothing special, you want to talk about easy roads through the west. they beat utah, whooptydamndoo. turned back into pumpkins against the lake show. somehow iverson made it out of the first round pretty routinely, how about ya boy? he couldnt get to the ECF with a two seed and homecourt. iverson's teams never lost a series with homecourt advantage, ever.

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140. "syracuse duh. "
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169. "don't 'duh' me & then bring up college, FOH"
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168. "Told You Man"
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And I'm just stunned...like HOW did he get to this level of hate?

  

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101. "Platinum Plus (c) Ross"
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damn this the new way to make niggas mad?
Melo?
lol

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106. "And to be truthful, fam, I don't dislike Melo, I've said over and over o..."
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this board that when he's ON he's as good as anyone when it comes to scoring

but

unfortunately, he's OFF more than he is on and to the detriment to his team oftentimes.

He is NOT a leader....he hasn't made any real improvements in any part of his game since he's been in the league which is the mark of a player who works on their game in the offseason...he doesn't make anyone better...



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southphillyman
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133. "he's not enough of a threat to hate really"
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he's an albatross contract having ball hog who might never make it out of the first round again
i'm a heat fan
you think i'm worried about carmelo or the knicks?
they're a first round bye for us
an after 9pm applebees appetizer
foh

and ur right when he's on he's on
but it's still not enjoyable to watch
i'm used to watching bron perform at a high level
not some dude getting the ball then standing in a triple threat stance for 15 seconds
pump faking with his fucking shin (lol)

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105. "third tier."
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tier 1) bron/howard/cp3/rose/durant
tier 2) pau/dirk/wade/love/westbrook/bynum/rondo/harden
tier 3) kobe, melo, jason richardson, jamal crawford

  

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107. "oh, you going for the jugular, huh? lmmao"
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>tier 1) bron/howard/cp3/rose/durant
>tier 2) pau/dirk/wade/love/westbrook/bynum/rondo/harden
>tier 3) kobe, melo, jason richardson, jamal crawford
>
>

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111. "right? there's a lot to digest."
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----
bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

  

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109. "can't tell if trolling or"
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130. "he's a parody poster."
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<----- Long Live The King

  

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115. "http://i.imgur.com/sv5Vk.gif"
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>tier 1) bron/howard/cp3/rose/durant
>tier 2) pau/dirk/wade/love/westbrook/bynum/rondo/harden
>tier 3) kobe, melo, jason richardson, jamal crawford
>
>


http://i.imgur.com/sv5Vk.gif



  

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132. "Agenda overload up in this bitch"
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you got agendas fighting agendas. Other agendas making peace....Holy shit

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158. "man this is one of the best posts here in awhile"
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people just going crazy with nonsense. i love it.

men are so simple, and so subject to present necessities, that he who seeks to deceive will always find someone who will allow himself to be deceived. (c)Niccol Machiavelli

  

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143. "I'd say top 10 is fair"
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Instagram: @von_clay

  

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155. "I am entertained"
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159. "but are you impressed"
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cause i know someone aint
http://i.imgur.com/9sRyS.jpg

..|.,

If you still don't know what Jade Typhoon is, click here:
http://jadetyphoon.blogspot.com/ (WS)

  

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181. "ROFL"
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157. "Not top 10, man scorers are overrated."
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160. "you guys have a good time?"
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http://i.imgur.com/dF7kN.gif

  

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161. "Top 40."
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"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
"Once upon a time, little need existed for making the distinction between a nigga and a blackat least not in this country, the place where niggas were invented" -- Donnell A

  

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162. "Nothing wrong with having him in the top 10."
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He's not in my top 10 list though. If the Knicks are a 2 or 3 seed for the playoffs this year, then I will put him up there. But right now, just not my preference to put him in my top 10.

  

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164. "RE: Where do you have Melo right now?"
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I gotta agree with vee lover on this. Melo is trash, and one of the most overrated players to ever play the game.

1. like his fellow hoopster from the same "I can't shoot" womb, kobe byrant, he has never shot 50 percent in a season. He is a career 43-45 percent shooter, just like kobe. also, he has terrible shot selection, just like kobe.

2. He is a ball hog, and is a greater ball hog than iverson ever was. AI got philly to the chip, not so much with anthony, and he played on some championship worthy teams.

3. He is lazy, and lacks the fundamentals to really be a complete player. He does not play defense, and even though his everyday persona is very reticent, his basketball game is egotistical.


KD came along and took his mantle, and showed him how a pure talent is supposed to play.

he's a very sloppy player, and he even married a sloppy woman in lala vasquez.....they're perfect for each other.

His star player label is nominal.

  

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165. "THESE GUNS ARE BLAZING FOLKS"
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Don't know what side to take now
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166. "Lmao this is good hate"
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>
>he's a very sloppy player, and he even married a sloppy woman
>in lala vasquez.....they're perfect for each other

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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170. "RE: Where do you have Melo right now?"
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Still better than OJ Mayo though.

  

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171. "Wait, What?"
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>I gotta agree with vee lover on this. Melo is trash, and one
>of the most overrated players to ever play the game.
>
>1. like his fellow hoopster from the same "I can't shoot"
>womb, kobe byrant, he has never shot 50 percent in a season.
>He is a career 43-45 percent shooter, just like kobe. also, he
>has terrible shot selection, just like kobe.
>
>2. He is a ball hog, and is a greater ball hog than iverson
>ever was. AI got philly to the chip, not so much with anthony,
>and he played on some championship worthy teams.
So you criticize Carmelo's FG% by never shooting 50% but at the same time praise AI even though he never came close to 50%, and shot below 40% TWICE in his career...wow

>3. He is lazy, and lacks the fundamentals to really be a
>complete player. He does not play defense, and even though his
>everyday persona is very reticent, his basketball game is
>egotistical.
Wow
>
>KD came along and took his mantle, and showed him how a pure
>talent is supposed to play.
You realize that the only things that KD does better than Melo statistically speaking is PPG & FG%. Melo actually passes the ball more, and their rebounding & steals are about equal. So Melo shoots slightly worse and passes the ball more and KD is showing people how a "pure talent" is supposed to play?

>he's a very sloppy player, and he even married a sloppy woman
>in lala vasquez.....they're perfect for each other.
Come on man...what part of the game is this? You cut on his wife?
This is the hate that hate built

  

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172. "RE: Wait, What?"
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I'm just going to sit back and let his lame ass career continue to ether you, while you mentally stutter trying to figure out how shit all went wrong....

that nigga can't even sell jordans ....and jordans practically sell themselves ....wade's jordans sell, and CP3's jordans sell ...

carmelo's shit on them yellow racks - 50 percent off, and an extra 20 percent bump at the register

  

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175. "lmao @ his sneaks not selling"
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that shit true tho

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196. "LOL. You Are Officially "Mad""
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>I'm just going to sit back and let his lame ass career
>continue to ether you, while you mentally stutter trying to
>figure out how shit all went wrong....
OK sir...keep hoping that Mayo gets better

>that nigga can't even sell jordans ....and jordans practically
>sell themselves ....wade's jordans sell, and CP3's jordans
>sell ...
>
>carmelo's shit on them yellow racks - 50 percent off, and an
>extra 20 percent bump at the register
You're bringing up shit that doesn't even have to do with basketball. Now I know that you're truly lost. You don't even know if it's true. You're probably mad that they didn't have Melo's in your size

You cut on his wife, you brought up shit that has nothing to do with basketball, you rounded DOWN his FG% to prove a point that got smashed, "and yet you hate" (c) Bartek

LOL@ selling shoes. By that barometer Tim Duncan ain't shit is he

  

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173. "46% career shooter"
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Not 43-45%. 43-45? What does that even mean? Just type the correct fucking number! 46!

  

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all stah
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174. "RE: 46% career shooter"
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it means that he hoovers around those percentages for most of his career.


and your numbers are wrong.

He is actually a 45 percent shooter....spike the punch, not the numbers ...

  

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176. ".456 = 46%"
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I really gotta explain how rounding works to grown ass men, twice now in this thread? Maybe there's a correlation between not correctly using capital letters in your user name to not knowing how rounding works.

And these are Melo's shooting %'s by season in his career: 43, 43, 48, 48, 49, 44, 46, 46, 43.

So he's been above your "43-45" range in 5 seasons. He's only actually been in that 43-45 range in 4 seasons.....so no, his FG% usually "hovers" above 43-45%. Nice try though.

I'd stick to saying off topic things(like going at his wife - nice touch - real classy) that can't factually be proven wrong in your little bullshit agenda. When you try to go with numbers, you better be right because some of us pay attention, and it's easy enough to look it up.

  

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177. "should be noted he had his best yr shooting playing with AI"
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(AI shot well that yr too)

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178. "RE: .456 = 46%"
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.456 does not equal 46 percent ...it equals 45.6 percent, which is 456 thousandsth of 1

sorry, pal.


yeah, like you said people who know numbers pay attention ...

but argue that extra percent if you want ....he still sucks. and 46 percent is a sorry ass shooting percentage for a supposedly mega star player.

all the great shooters have shot 50 percent once or twice in their career, if not for their total career......

carmelo hasn't done that, because he is not great, or close to it.

good day. soccer is on

  

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179. "LOL, this is hilarious and amazing"
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When you take it down to two digits, .456% goes to .46%, not .45%.

I can't believe I'm having this conversation.




  

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180. "RE: LOL, this is hilarious and amazing"
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again, .456 is 45.6 percent ..

what don't you understand?

smh

nowhere on the planet does .456 = .46


  

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184. "keep going!"
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LOL! Melo making motherfuckers so mad, they're protesting math.

45.6% is correct. If you want to say 45.6%, fine. Don't say 45% though! That's wrong. Don't do it!

  

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all stah
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186. "RE: keep going!"
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I'm saying 45 percent..he doesn't deserve them extra micro points!..

and you're going to sit there and like it.

  

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182. "if it's not important, then get it right in the first place"
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I mean, if 46% sucks anyway(supposedly), then why not just type it in the first place? Either you don't know how to round correctly, or you're being a little dishonest. One or the other.

Also, way to edit both of your responses, and way to completely ignore that you were WRONG on his FG% usually hovering around 43-45%. In reality, he's been in the 46%-49% range in 5 out of 9 seasons.

Stick to soccer. It's probably a lot easier to wrap your mind around simple numbers like the typical 2-1 final scores in that boring ass sport.

  

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183. "RE: if it's not important, then get it right in the first place"
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not only is carmelo lame, be he got lame ass stans who use digit jumping to prove his merit....

anytime you have to go that route with a player, you know he's wack.

okay, ninja ..you want the 4 thousandths of a point?.....cool, you can have it. He still ass milk.


  

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185. "you brought numbers into it"
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And you were wrong on all of them. Wrong. Incorrect.

Don't cry because somebody called you on that. Just the use the correct numbers.

I notice you still haven't addressed that "usually hovers around 43-45%" BS that was wrong. Bad showing here. Trying to knock his offensive ability and production is just dumb and wrong.

  

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187. "RE: you brought numbers into it"
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you got me..I screwed carmelo out of a percent, or micro points...

yeah, i'm wack as shit ...you got me, fam...I don't know what I was thinking.

You ethered me well...


you continue to hold down the melo fort and represent!..i'm going to stay out of yall's way, because I'll be too busy counting CHIPS with durant and them

peace


  

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189. "you know what you did"
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Trying to pass him off as a poor 43-45% shooter, when 46-49% shooter is more statistically accurate(if you're really hung up on using a range).

It was dishonest, and really a poor point to try to make in the first place, because he's one of the best offensive players in the league and everybody knows that.

Don't get all sarcastic and salty now, just take the L on that part and then stick to the "lazy, reticent, egotistical, sloppy wife, shoes don't sell" BS that nobody will waste their time with.

  

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190. "RE: you know what you did"
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this nigga put up through 49 percent in there?


lololol

this shit is like a painting by a surrealist.


http://uploads5.wikipaintings.org/images/rene-magritte/rape-1934.jpg



  

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191. "i already listed his %'s by season up above"
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192. "RE: i already listed his %'s by season up above"
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look, little keyboard hipster.

carmelo's last 2 seasons:

last year: 43%
year before that: 45%

what have you done for me lately?.....is not 49 percent...

And the year he shot 49 percent, denver must have had dented ass rims or some shit, because something had to help those broke ass jays to go in.

  

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193. "Top 15"
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there are far better players in the league than Melo, so not top 10(unless you go off of scoring and don't consider leadership and other parts of the game), but he cracks top 15 fairly easily. Reality is, Melo is just not that good, and definitely not as good as he was supposed to be.

For instance:

Lebron
D12
Rose
Deron
Rondo
Durant
Westbrook
Bean
Wade
Dirk
Tony Parker
Andrew Bynum (yeah, he is)
CP3

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197. "RE: Top 15"
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All of these are arguable:


>Deron
>Rondo
>Westbrook
>Bean
>Wade
>Dirk
>Tony Parker
>Andrew Bynum (yeah, he is)

  

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200. "Aside from Deron, hasn't everyone on that list had a big role..."
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in leading their team to at least the NBA Finals or a chip? Plus, all of these guys are better individual and team players than Melo. So it really isn't arguable at all. And even with Deron Williams, I'd find it hard to believe that in this day and age, any sane person would take Melo over him. Melo has already reached his peak. He's not going to get any better. He's not going to lead a team anywhere. He needs to be the #2 guy on a team with a real star. He's in the same league as Joe Johnson and Rudy Gay. Guys that are good, but not THAT GUY

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203. "RE: Aside from Deron, hasn't everyone on that list had a big role..."
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>in leading their team to at least the NBA Finals or a chip?
>Plus, all of these guys are better individual and team players
>than Melo.

So? This isn't a lifetime achievement list, is it? Kobe, Wade, and Dirk were all better than Melo before. I'm not sure they are now. It's arguable.

So it really isn't arguable at all. And even with
>Deron Williams, I'd find it hard to believe that in this day
>and age, any sane person would take Melo over him. Melo has
>already reached his peak. He's not going to get any better.

You can argue that Williams has already peaked too. We'll see. They are the same age. What has Williams done that Melo hasn't though? I'd argue that Melo has had a better career to this point.

>He's not going to lead a team anywhere. He needs to be the #2
>guy on a team with a real star. He's in the same league as Joe
>Johnson and Rudy Gay. Guys that are good, but not THAT GUY

The problem with that "he'll never lead a team to a title" shit is that's been said about A LOT of players.....who went on to lead their teams to titles. It takes the right situation, which for a lot of great players doesn't happen.

The Joe Johnson/Rudy Gay thing is just laughable. Not even close.

  

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204. "RE: Aside from Deron, hasn't everyone on that list had a big role..."
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What has Williams done that Melo
>hasn't though?

shot 50 percent from the field ...make teammates better...


you don't want me to continue

  

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205. "RE: Aside from Deron, hasn't everyone on that list had a big role..."
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> What has Williams done that Melo
>>hasn't though?
>
>shot 50 percent from the field ...make teammates better...

Your words from earlier..."what have you done for me lately?.....is not 49 percent..." Yeah, Williams shot 50% in 2008. But you dismissed Melo's 49% because it wasn't recent enough. By the way, Williams shot 41% last year which is worse than Melo has ever shot, so I guess you can add that to the list of things he's done that Melo hasn't. Williams' career FG % is .455, by the way. Melo is .456.

"Make teammates better"....yeah, come with more opinion, subjective bullshit that is completely meaningless, especially when it comes from your biased ass.

>you don't want me to continue

Actually, out of purely morbid curiousity, I do. What you got?

  

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206. "RE: Aside from Deron, hasn't everyone on that list had a big role..."
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what did boozer do with Deron, and what is he now doing?

what did amare do before melo, and what is he now doing with melo?


you're going to end up like Gustavo "Gus" Fring if you keep it up.....just double bag your L and don't smash the bread

  

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208. "RE: Aside from Deron, hasn't everyone on that list had a big role..."
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And that has nothing to do with injuries/getting older for those two right?

And since you're obsessed with FG%, Boozer had his ONLY sub .500% season playing with Deron.

  

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209. "RE: Aside from Deron, hasn't everyone on that list had a big role..."
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answer me this: did pom poms and spandex come with that melo stannery kit that your using?

I hope it's worth it ...29.95 plus shipping and handling in a constricted economy aint no joke.

peace. im out ...we good though

  

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211. "got nothing^^^"
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No stanning here. My arguments for him aren't crazy at all(I got him right around #8 or so), I'm just defending him from the crazy ass shit that some are throwing out there.

But I'll agree that this has run it's course.

  

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212. "I would for sure take Wade, Kobe, Dirk over Melo right today"
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Going into the year, have those guys for this season, yes, clearly. If we are opening up age disparities, nah, because then you'd just see the thread flooded with every promising player with a decent contract.

Williams had a down year, too, now is not the time to be talking him up. I didn't see him enough in jersey but I would have taken Utah Deron over Melo in either of his stops.

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215. "at least half the guys on that list played with superior players than me..."
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How far would a team led by bynum, westbrook, parker, rondo go?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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221. "RE: at least half the guys on that list played with superior players tha..."
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>How far would a team led by bynum, westbrook, parker, rondo
>go?

Well, for most of those guys we're about to see cuz Bynum, Rondo, and Parker are about to step into the realm of being the main guy on their teams real soon.

  

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235. "people are arguing Bynum over melo now? cmon."
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236. "i get the bynum love cause he's a big man wit moves but i agree."
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he's not better than melo lol

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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194. "It's funny to me that some people seem to have him moving UP"
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An already one-dimensional player--don't tell me about his rebounding, it went down and he is a rebounder like Dirk is a rebounder--has his numbers and efficiency drop on a team that accomplished absolutely nothing and he gets moved up?

I could see him argued at No. 7, seems more like top 15 than top 10 though.

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195. "where is the he AINT SHIT option?"
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is it one of those invisible THE LESSON links?

  

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198. "Any post with all stah denying math is gold"
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216. "Lol..like math is a theory..rounding hasn't been proven!!!!"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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217. "RE: Lol..like math is a theory..rounding hasn't been proven!!!!"
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.456 isn't 46.0. it's 45.6. period.

and for the record, rounding is not absolute, which is why it is called rounding.

  

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223. "cmon"
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Dog I'm drunk but cmon
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225. "Lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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201. "Wait. We're talking all time or CURRENTLY? "
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Currently? Top 40.

All time? Top 1,000

"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
"Once upon a time, little need existed for making the distinction between a nigga and a blackat least not in this country, the place where niggas were invented" -- Donnell A

  

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202. "RE: Wait. We're talking all time or CURRENTLY? "
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LOLOLLLLLLLLLLLL

  

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218. "A lot of comments gettin bookmarked"
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cant believe ya'll showing this hate AFTER Melo's performance in the Olympics too

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219. "did NOTHING in big games"
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dropping 10 3's on a 3rd world country doesn't make you a superstar

  

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224. "Rondo is not a top 10 player."
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I think one can argue that Melo is Top 10. It's much easier to argue otherwise. I still don't think Durant is really any better than Melo.

Dirk is easily top 10.

  

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226. "How you figure? More prolific, more efficient, more reliable"
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And his defense and rebounding are moving in the right direction.

Durant is better, right today

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228. "Alright... maybe he's a little better right today."
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>And his defense and rebounding are moving in the right
>direction.
>
>Durant is better, right today

But I think their games are pretty comparable. I don't find KD's defense or rebounding to be particularly noteworthy. Durant is a great great scorer, but so is Melo.

I've stated before on this board, but Durant's media darling status has benefited him tremendously. He's clearly an elite player just entering his prime, but I don't consider him to be moving towards some sort of GOAT levels like the machine would lead you to believe.

  

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237. "Comparable, sure, noteworthy now, not yet, but still ..."
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We are talking about a five-year gap in age/experience and Durant is already at least noticeably better. Durant's D and rebounding are getting better. We saw what he could do on the glass in college, I always thought that part of his game would take time to mature. Melo mostly sags off and grabs defensive boards, Dirk Nowitzki-esque. I could see Durant becoming a very good defender but like all offensive stars he'll have to manage his exertion at that end to stay fresh.

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238. "I've made note of this before."
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Durant's numbers at this stage of his career are very very similar to where Melo's were at the same stage.

To be fair, though... Durant was not very good for his first two years, whereas Melo entered the league a bit more ready.

  

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227. "Top 5 easily"
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Kobe
Chris Paul
Dwight Howard
Melo are top 4 easy.

After that it's Lebron, Durant, D Wade, Westbrook, and the like, I might have forgotten some, maybe Bosh?

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239. "Wait, Bron and Durant are not firmly in your top 5???"
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>Kobe
>Chris Paul
>Dwight Howard
>Melo are top 4 easy.
>
>After that it's Lebron, Durant, D Wade, Westbrook, and the
>like, I might have forgotten some, maybe Bosh?

OKS, you never cease to amaze me.

  

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No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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231. "Well, this is the year for him to prove his worth"
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If the Knicks fizzle he's going to hear it loud from the NY fans. But honestly, I don't see the Knicks as being any better than 4th in the conference this year.

  

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232. "are ya'll being serious about Deron and Westbrook?"
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there is no reason that either of those two should be sniffing a top 10 list?

there's some quality New York Knickerbockers hate going on up in this post. i'm loving it. it's been a long time since we got this much hate. feels good, feels right.

  

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234. "my top 10."
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1.b