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ThaTruth
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"PG Warz: The Early Returns..."


          

Yeah I know we're only a little over a week in but lets set the board...

1. D.Rose - duh, he's not only the top PG but in the convo for the best player in the league period, his scoring is slightly down this year but his efficiency and assists numbers are up...

2. CP3 - he can still control a game better than anybody, his rebounding numbers are slightly down from what they usually are, after a lot of early hype this Clipper team might not really be that much better than the team he left in NOLA, he seemed to wear down at times last year, it will be interesting to see how he holds up under the bright lights of Tinseltown...

3. Deron BETTER - he's stuck on a shit team in Jersey playing with some D-League level talent but we all know what he can do...

4. Rondo - he is what he is, he has his limitations but he's effective at what he does, he's scoring more this year, we'll see if he can keep it up...

5. Westbrook - yeah I know he's struggled and he's currently averaging more turnovers than assists and leading the league in turnovers at over 5 a game but he's still a key player on one of 2 undefeated teams in the NBA and can take over a game at anytime...

6. Ellis/Curry - I'm judging these 2 as a tandem, neither one is really a point guard, but are very talented but both seem to have trouble staying healthy...

7. Jennings - off to a solid start, scoring and efficiency numbers are up...

8. Calderon - not spectacular but efficient - excellent shooting percentages across the board and the best assist-to-turnover ratio in the league...

9. Lawson/Miller I'm graded these guys as a tandem also since they spend a lot of time on the court together, I know OKS hates Miller but he's still effective and can still run a team and he's a big reason Denver has had the success they have had so far...

10. Lowry - currently leading the league in assists and Houston is playing a little better than some people thought they would...

others...

Parker - "Top 5" Tony's numbers are down, is it by design or has he lost a step? he's only 28 but he's been in the league 10 years and his primary asset is his speed and quickness...

Nash - damn, this looks like the year he finally falls off, with this schedule he might retire mid-season...

Wall - a lot of people thought he would make the leap this year, he seems to have taken a step back...

Holiday - another guy I thought would make a leap, I guess their running a lot the offense through Igoudala now, not sure what's up with that, it would be nice if we had some sixer fans that would talk about it...

Collison - another guy that's not spectacular but pretty efficient, Indiana might surprise some people this year...

Felton - despite the loss to the Clips yesterday he has a potentially decent squad to run with in Portland, another team nobody is really talking about but may surprise...

Irving - talented kid, he's basically sharing duties with Sessions right now, needs to improve his efficiency, if he can harness that talent he might be a player...

Rubio - the people's favorite, has flashed brilliant passing skills, his shooting percentages are surprisingly high, it will be interesting to see if that continues as his minutes are extended...

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not unreasonable
Jan 02nd 2012
1
it may be "Lawson's team" but Miller averages more assists...
Jan 02nd 2012
4
      Ehh...that's kinda meaningless
Jan 02nd 2012
10
           In crunch time they're both on the floor, Lawson is usually off the ball
Jan 02nd 2012
12
           no it's not...lmao
Jan 03rd 2012
54
i'd slide lowry and the den dudes above golden state
Jan 02nd 2012
2
I need Lowry to prove it, if he's still leading the league in assists...
Jan 02nd 2012
5
      he averaged over 7.5 after the brooks trade
Jan 02nd 2012
7
no norris cole?
Jan 02nd 2012
3
he probably could have been with the "others", you think he'll...
Jan 02nd 2012
6
i like Chalmers but Cole will be starting by EOY
Jan 02nd 2012
15
lol.
Jan 02nd 2012
9
smh
Jan 02nd 2012
11
i'd put lowry up a couple spots
Jan 02nd 2012
8
great passing, great rebounding, good defender
Jan 02nd 2012
14
lowry below calderon?
Jan 02nd 2012
13
Nash is probably going to improve. he's currently 6th in apg
Jan 02nd 2012
16
He'll have some good games, he's going to have some bad ones too
Jan 02nd 2012
30
if it's just based on the games so far, Wall is behind everyone
Jan 02nd 2012
17
damn, you committed, huh? i'll ask longo to revisit.
Jan 02nd 2012
18
      RE: damn, you committed, huh? i'll ask longo to revisit.
Jan 02nd 2012
20
      nah, man. do you. ima freelance
Jan 02nd 2012
21
as much as we talk about the PG position being so good or deep
Jan 02nd 2012
19
interesting point. it's always been that way, though
Jan 02nd 2012
22
RE: interesting point. it's always been that way, though
Jan 02nd 2012
23
clips are .500 right now but it's early. we'll see a)if they make the
Jan 02nd 2012
24
Yeah, the list of point guards that actually carried a team is short...
Jan 02nd 2012
25
the depth is key but let's remember rose is the mvp
Jan 02nd 2012
26
      good points
Jan 02nd 2012
27
the future of the PG positon is looking way better than the SG
Jan 02nd 2012
29
      It's looking like the combo gaurd backcourt is the future
Jan 02nd 2012
32
           I was actually thinking about that the other day, it seems like a lot of...
Jan 02nd 2012
33
           a lot of teams are going to lose, then
Jan 03rd 2012
44
                probably so, they'll be "fun to watch" though
Jan 03rd 2012
45
           thats a bleak future.
Jan 04th 2012
76
DAMN jeff teague cant get no love? i guess ill keep all the stocks then
Jan 02nd 2012
28
he's an other at this point...
Jan 02nd 2012
31
AGAIN I'll ask "JEFF TEAGUE CAN'T GET NO LOVE?
Dec 27th 2013
91
      Winning what?
Dec 27th 2013
92
      Jeff Teague is proving Top 5 is a system player
Dec 27th 2013
93
Wall is killing me & I havent even watched him much at all this season
Jan 02nd 2012
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don't worry. he still has no later than 2013 to become better than rose
Jan 03rd 2012
48
bwhahahha
Jan 03rd 2012
55
lol
Jan 03rd 2012
58
yup, plenty of time!
Jan 03rd 2012
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Boom!
Jan 05th 2012
81
absolute shite supporting cast, might need another coach too....
Jan 03rd 2012
56
thoughts?
Jan 03rd 2012
59
      yeah, he came out on fire his rookie season averaging 18&10...
Jan 03rd 2012
60
the Ricky Rubio Propaganda Machine in action!!
Jan 03rd 2012
35
... but he's so cute!
Jan 03rd 2012
36
So he did a Lebron? People are going to be trying to put him on the...
Jan 03rd 2012
37
i'm with you and bags on this one
Jan 03rd 2012
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      We've seen this before with Jason Williams in Sacremento, it will...
Jan 03rd 2012
40
           He's young, he can pass, & he defends. He's good dude.
Jan 03rd 2012
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                we'll see. n/m
Jan 03rd 2012
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                I swear this dude makes the worst comparisons.
Jan 03rd 2012
62
                     Yep, Rubio makes the flashy play out of necessity most of the time
Jan 03rd 2012
63
                     we'll see how it translates to wins, they have a relatively easy...
Jan 03rd 2012
64
                     making sense in PG Warz?? what next, sixer fans being sixer fans?
Jan 03rd 2012
65
                          haha
Jan 03rd 2012
72
don't rain on our fiesta! and i think that play is more indicative
Jan 03rd 2012
51
Jarrett Jack had a nice game last night in a loss to Utah
Jan 03rd 2012
38
Jack had another good game in a loss tho
Jan 05th 2012
80
To Lowry's defense he is also leading the league in steals
Jan 03rd 2012
41
Holiday - it would be nice if we had some sixers fans that would
Jan 03rd 2012
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i'm not talking about him because he hasn't been good so far
Jan 03rd 2012
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3 shitty games and one decent one...
Jan 03rd 2012
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      RE: 3 shitty games and one decent one...
Jan 03rd 2012
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I wish the Sixers had any truly significant players to build on
Jan 03rd 2012
69
^^^
Jan 05th 2012
78
      I peeped that
Jan 05th 2012
79
      The real problem is they both defer to iggy...
Jan 05th 2012
82
damn, it gets kinda boring when your player is in the lead
Jan 03rd 2012
49
Kemba Better
Jan 03rd 2012
53
I actually like what Scott has done with Kyrie.
Jan 03rd 2012
50
agreed. n/m
Jan 03rd 2012
52
Andre Miller or Jeff Teague, who'd you start?
Jan 03rd 2012
66
honestly I haven't watched Teague that much but as far as...
Jan 03rd 2012
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      run of the mill i'd say, but i've only seen him 6-7 times
Jan 03rd 2012
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           Rose just shitted in his mouth
Jan 03rd 2012
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                yeah, but he's not the first.
Jan 04th 2012
73
Lowry with up arrows
Jan 04th 2012
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right, right
Jan 04th 2012
77
so, just to get everyone on record, rondo is top 5, right???
Jan 04th 2012
75
LMAO
Jan 03rd 2013
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Yeah, we all know Truth is an idiot when it comes to TP.
Jan 03rd 2013
84
No mention of Mike Conley Jr.
Jan 03rd 2013
85
I did like 4 or 5 of these last season, this was the first one after the...
Jan 03rd 2013
86
word, I had to big him up after busting Rondo's ass pause last night
Jan 03rd 2013
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Top 5 Tony is sitting pretty on top: King of the Hill
Jan 03rd 2013
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      *ahem*
Feb 22nd 2013
89
Top 2 Tony
Feb 22nd 2013
90

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1. "not unreasonable"
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I think Rondo's tied with cmon, better. you've got Calderon too high and Lawson should be higher--while he shares the court with Miller at times, it's his team. I'm impressed they're able to play together so well considering Miller's ball-hogged background. I also haven't seen enough Lowry to judge.

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4. "it may be "Lawson's team" but Miller averages more assists..."
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in fewer minutes, if Lawson really wants to wear the big drawls he needs to figure out how to get other people points...

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10. "Ehh...that's kinda meaningless"
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Miller plays with the 2nd team with includes a bunch of spot up shooters. the first team has Gallo and...? as spot up shooters for Lawson to get assists from.

lawson's definitely gotten his teammates involved and has led the team in assists the past couple of games.

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12. "In crunch time they're both on the floor, Lawson is usually off the ball"
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54. "no it's not...lmao"
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rob
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2. "i'd slide lowry and the den dudes above golden state"
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and drop calderon a bit for his defense

but otherwise that looks right. you can't begrudge better and westbrook a few games.

  

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5. "I need Lowry to prove it, if he's still leading the league in assists..."
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in a week I'll move him up but he's never averaged more than 6 in his career...

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7. "he averaged over 7.5 after the brooks trade"
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which doesn't make him a league leader, but it puts him out of the pack in terms of pg warz.

i don't see any reason that doesn't make him a better "pg" than ellis/curry, though obviously he's got lawson and guys like wall and jrue on deck that seem poised to step in to that top 10.

  

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3. "no norris cole?"
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6. "he probably could have been with the "others", you think he'll..."
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eventually start over Chalmers?

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15. "i like Chalmers but Cole will be starting by EOY"
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9. "lol."
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11. "smh"
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8. "i'd put lowry up a couple spots"
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been watching him since early last year. drafted him last year in my fantasy team. this year too. lol. great passing/rebounding pg.

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14. "great passing, great rebounding, good defender"
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Can play offense in the halfcourt and on the fastbreak.

Can go to the hole and shoot.

In terms of most well rounded pgs, its Lowry and Derrick Rose.

Doesnt necessarily mean he's the best, but there isnt a lot Lowry can't do on the basketball court.

>been watching him since early last year. drafted him last
>year in my fantasy team. this year too. lol. great
>passing/rebounding pg.

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13. "lowry below calderon?"
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16. "Nash is probably going to improve. he's currently 6th in apg"
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despite playing pretty bad and only seeing the court for 26 min a game

today, he had 21 points on 9-13 shooting with 9 assists

  

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30. "He'll have some good games, he's going to have some bad ones too"
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17. "if it's just based on the games so far, Wall is behind everyone"
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he's been awful.

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18. "damn, you committed, huh? i'll ask longo to revisit. "
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i'm very impressed, dude. keep it up.

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20. "RE: damn, you committed, huh? i'll ask longo to revisit. "
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>i'm very impressed, dude. keep it up.

Is he lying though?


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19. "as much as we talk about the PG position being so good or deep"
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in the NBA
looking at this list kind of opens my eyes to the fact that Derrick Rose is really the *only* truly elite player out of this group
elite meaning on par with kobe, bron, dwight, durant, dirk, etc

though they are very good, rondo and deron play on shit teams and aren't good enough to elevate them beyond mediocre really

despite cp3 being lauded as a pg who can change the game/his team we've already seen that he can't do shit with subpar talent
steady losing in the first or second round? want a cookie?
the clippers should make the playoffs this year. congrats. but cp3 didn't make them a title contender and they have arguably the best PF and 2nd best defensive center in the league

westbrook erratic ass isn't elite to me. he'll give u 30 and 10 every now and then. but he'll also shoot 30% and have 6-7 TO's and bench argument every now and then too. i'll pass

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22. "interesting point. it's always been that way, though"
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think about the glove, kidd, stockton all in the same era. GP and Stockton needed the big to get them over. little dudes have a tough time dominating.

you might be selling CP3 a little short, though.

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23. "RE: interesting point. it's always been that way, though"
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dont worry, he is

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24. "clips are .500 right now but it's early. we'll see a)if they make the "
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playoffs and b)what they do there
at some point these stars (melo, cp3,durant) need to be held to certain expectations
especially since they have adequate talent around them

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25. "Yeah, the list of point guards that actually carried a team is short..."
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you got Big O, Magic and Zeke and both Big O and Magic needed Kareem to win a title

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26. "the depth is key but let's remember rose is the mvp"
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and cp3 and nash have been mvp level players in the past

let's not pretend the nba is FULL of game changers at other positions either. who's the 5th best sf? where are the young sgs? its a lot of pfs out there but most are soft or lacking in a critical dimension. ain't shit out there at center.

  

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27. "good points"
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29. "the future of the PG positon is looking way better than the SG"
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like...the best young shooting guard is Eric Gordon. think about that.

then there's Thornton, then NOBDOY (unless you count Monta but he may as well be a point too)

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32. "It's looking like the combo gaurd backcourt is the future"
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33. "I was actually thinking about that the other day, it seems like a lot of..."
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teams are going that route

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44. "a lot of teams are going to lose, then"
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let's be honest about the definition of a combo guard: a short guy who can score but can't pass. that's not a recipe for winning basketball. ai was about as effective as a guy like that will ever be, and even at his best he was inefficient.

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45. "probably so, they'll be "fun to watch" though"
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76. "thats a bleak future."
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28. "DAMN jeff teague cant get no love? i guess ill keep all the stocks then"
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men are so simple, and so subject to present necessities, that he who seeks to deceive will always find someone who will allow himself to be deceived. (c)Niccolς Machiavelli

  

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31. "he's an other at this point..."
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91. "AGAIN I'll ask "JEFF TEAGUE CAN'T GET NO LOVE?"
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Straight up better than half the clowns you dudes be on here CYSIIN'. Just putting up quality numbers and always winning no matter who the other players are, but he can't even be in the conversation?

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92. "Winning what?"
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Just putting up quality numbers and always winning no
>matter who the other players are, but he can't even be in the
>conversation?

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93. "Jeff Teague is proving Top 5 is a system player"
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They are basically running the same sets as the Spurs since their new coach Bud had been Pop assistant for the past 15 years.

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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34. "Wall is killing me & I havent even watched him much at all this season"
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I knew it was gonna be a rough start with that roster but liked him better than anybody coming out at PG in the past 4-5 years.

However I would have thought he'd have developed that jumper better & started to learn to switch speeds while making his teammates better already.

Anyone that's watched these first five games have thoughts?

  

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48. "don't worry. he still has no later than 2013 to become better than rose"
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55. "bwhahahha"
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58. "lol"
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68. "yup, plenty of time!"
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81. "Boom!"
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@dseals | @digife
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56. "absolute shite supporting cast, might need another coach too...."
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59. "thoughts?"
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from what I saw in the preseason games...

he looked out of shape

no legs

he still had the speed, but when it was time to finish around the cup he was putting up some weak and/or wild shots


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60. "yeah, he came out on fire his rookie season averaging 18&10..."
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I guess he was doing some lockout partying before this season

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35. "the Ricky Rubio Propaganda Machine in action!!"
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http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/34986/first-cup-tuesday-188

Ricky Rubio had a quiet night with six points and three assists in 23 minute off the bench but he ended up making the defensive play of the game. Rubio generated a huge roar from the crowd when he chased down Spurs reserve guard Danny Green with 5.5 seconds left in the third quarter and swatted away his breakaway layup attempt. "

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36. "... but he's so cute!"
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37. "So he did a Lebron? People are going to be trying to put him on the..."
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All-Defense team next

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39. "i'm with you and bags on this one"
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i get that the people of minnesota need something to get excited about, and they've suffered enough. but we have to nip this in the bud before it becomes an international movement of style over substance.

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40. "We've seen this before with Jason Williams in Sacremento, it will..."
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run it's course.

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57. "He's young, he can pass, & he defends. He's good dude."
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Y'all should just let this one go.

The Jason Williams comparisons hold no merit early in their careers. Jason was out of control and driven at making highlights.

Rubio just makes plays.

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61. "we'll see. n/m"
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62. "I swear this dude makes the worst comparisons."
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Jason Williams was ALL flash his first few years. Fun to watch, but a pretty cruddy PG.

I've yet to see another point guard play as unabashedly selfish as he did as a youngin. Yet he always got hyped for his passing, but only because of the oohs and ahhs. Dude was a constant contradiction. He would pull up on 2 on 1 fastbreaks and brick 3's like it was nothing, throw away passes tryin to be cute. Adelman couldn't wait to ship his ass out. Now that same coach giving Rubio crunch time minutes as a rook.

Rubio plays under control, runs the offense well and yes, makes a flashy pass here and there. He is WORLDS better than white chocolate at this stage. The boy good.

  

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63. "Yep, Rubio makes the flashy play out of necessity most of the time"
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J-Will did it just because that's what he wanted to do and wanted to make Sportscenter.

Them long ass out of control 3's were crazy. J-Will didn't get good really til Hubie. Then he was solid.

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64. "we'll see how it translates to wins, they have a relatively easy..."
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January schedule, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be over .500 at the end of the month...

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65. "making sense in PG Warz?? what next, sixer fans being sixer fans?"
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>Jason Williams was ALL flash his first few years. Fun to
>watch, but a pretty cruddy PG.
>
>I've yet to see another point guard play as unabashedly
>selfish as he did as a youngin. Yet he always got hyped for
>his passing, but only because of the oohs and ahhs. Dude was a
>constant contradiction. He would pull up on 2 on 1 fastbreaks
>and brick 3's like it was nothing, throw away passes tryin to
>be cute. Adelman couldn't wait to ship his ass out. Now that
>same coach giving Rubio crunch time minutes as a rook.
>
>Rubio plays under control, runs the offense well and yes,
>makes a flashy pass here and there. He is WORLDS better than
>white chocolate at this stage. The boy good.
>

  

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72. "haha"
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51. "don't rain on our fiesta! and i think that play is more indicative"
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of what adelman is trying to bring to the table in terms of defensive effort, something that has sorely been lacking. for ricky to be buying into that philosophy is a good thing.

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38. "Jarrett Jack had a nice game last night in a loss to Utah"
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80. "Jack had another good game in a loss tho"
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41. "To Lowry's defense he is also leading the league in steals"
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He should be a couple spots higher IMO

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42. "Holiday - it would be nice if we had some sixers fans that would"
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talk about it...

I thought I saw an improvement with Jrue in the preseason games, but they were against WAS

He was consistently hitting the 3

The season starts with a 5 game road trip, the first game the day after christmas in POR = L

We are 2-2, and the wins have been laughers

They blew the game in UTAH, which was his best individual performance

It's obvious who we are running our offense through, sweet Lou

Our team currently has 5 players averaging double figures, which some credit has to go to the PG

Once Dildo gets going, it will be 6

I think he's still getting his legs and rhythm, but once that jumper starts going in consistently, then there will be a strong case for Jrue in PG Wars

A win tomorrow night @ NO, come home 3-2 for the home opener against DET, and we aren't even playing at our full potential yet

4-2 puts us in 1st place, ahead of BOS

a far cry from last year's start

I'll take it

He's averaging 15, 3, & 3, and hasn't been looking as agressive as he was last year

He will start to take over games as the season goes on







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43. "i'm not talking about him because he hasn't been good so far"
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he has less than 3 assists per. what's there to talk about?

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46. "3 shitty games and one decent one..."
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He's struggling early. The good news is all these games gives him a chance to redeem himself. For a team with no go to guy, he has to be the guy who runs the show at the end of games.


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47. "RE: 3 shitty games and one decent one..."
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and that's the bright side

he's avg 15, and not playing close to his potential yet

agreed he has to be the facilitator down the stretch

and I believe he will be up to the challenge and improve his APG as the season progresses

Iggy looks healthy, and Jrue doesn't seem to know how to get a healthy Iggy involved

back to back against WAS the 13th and 14th after our first homestand should cure some of those ails

BTW, the sixers are the only team to not play a home game yet





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69. "I wish the Sixers had any truly significant players to build on"
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when we're talking about our mildly/intermittently-impressive-grading-on-a-youth-curve-PG or hoping our #2 overall can show a pulse there's not a hole lot to get excited about.

  

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78. "^^^"
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That's the Jrue that will be making noise in PG Warz

3 3 pointers down the stretch and the nail in the coffin

I'd much rather see the 6ers getting shots within the offense in crunchtime, compared to sweetLou getting an iso shot that he could force anytime he wants to...

The damaja puttin in work


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79. "I peeped that"
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82. "The real problem is they both defer to iggy..."
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>That's the Jrue that will be making noise in PG Warz
>
>3 3 pointers down the stretch and the nail in the coffin
>
>I'd much rather see the 6ers getting shots within the offense
>in crunchtime, compared to sweetLou getting an iso shot that
>he could force anytime he wants to...
>
>The damaja puttin in work
>
>
>

the worse shooter of the 3.

  

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49. "damn, it gets kinda boring when your player is in the lead"
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i'm gonna have to go double-time on this rubio 'genda.

  

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53. "Kemba Better"
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50. "I actually like what Scott has done with Kyrie."
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Don't do what Washington did with Wall last year and blow him out early. Keep the minutes in the 25-30 range, and have him in as many games as possible, with Sessions as a very efficient and important relief man. Let the team build with him, let the lineups and chemistry shake themselves out.

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52. "agreed. n/m"
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66. "Andre Miller or Jeff Teague, who'd you start?"
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i'm arguing with a friend. while miller is a decent pg, in no way would i start him over jeff teague. not with millers age, plus the fact that in the same minutes, teague has better numbers (only 1 assist more per game from being better at every category).

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67. "honestly I haven't watched Teague that much but as far as..."
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>i'm arguing with a friend. while miller is a decent pg, in no
>way would i start him over jeff teague. not with millers age,
>plus the fact that in the same minutes, teague has better
>numbers (only 1 assist more per game from being better at
>every category).

stats go, Miller actually averages almost 2 more assist per game in fewer minutes with fewer turnovers, Teague shooting percentages are better and WAY above his career averages so we'll have to see if he can keep that up, Miller's never really been a "lock-down" but he's not Nash either, he's a heady guy that knows how to disrupt plays and has fairly quick hands and gets his share of steals. How is Teague defensively?

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70. "run of the mill i'd say, but i've only seen him 6-7 times"
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>stats go, Miller actually averages almost 2 more assist per
>game in fewer minutes with fewer turnovers,
>

actually, teague plays 1/2 minute more per game.

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71. "Rose just shitted in his mouth"
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73. "yeah, but he's not the first."
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teague is still a young pg. he'll have his bad games.

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74. "Lowry with up arrows"
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77. "right, right"
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75. "so, just to get everyone on record, rondo is top 5, right???"
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83. "LMAO"
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>Yeah I know we're only a little over a week in but lets set

>3. Deron BETTER - he's stuck on a shit team in Jersey playing
>with some D-League level talent but we all know what he can
>do...

>7. Jennings - off to a solid start, scoring and efficiency
>numbers are up...
>
>8. Calderon - not spectacular but efficient - excellent
>shooting percentages across the board and the best
>assist-to-turnover ratio in the league...

>others...
>
>Parker - "Top 5" Tony's numbers are down, is it by design or
>has he lost a step? he's only 28 but he's been in the league
>10 years and his primary asset is his speed and quickness...

>Wall - a lot of people thought he would make the leap this
>year, he seems to have taken a step back...
>
>Holiday - another guy I thought would make a leap, I guess
>their running a lot the offense through Igoudala now, not sure
>what's up with that, it would be nice if we had some sixer
>fans that would talk about it...

>Collison - another guy that's not spectacular but pretty
>efficient, Indiana might surprise some people this year...
body is really talking about but may surprise...

>Irving - talented kid, he's basically sharing duties with
>Sessions right now, needs to improve his efficiency, if he can
>harness that talent he might be a player...

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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84. "Yeah, we all know Truth is an idiot when it comes to TP."
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I've come to accept that fact.

☻☻☻☻☻☻☻

not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4...

  

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85. "No mention of Mike Conley Jr."
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smh

  

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86. "I did like 4 or 5 of these last season, this was the first one after the..."
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start of the season, I think Conley got a little more love in later editions.

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87. "word, I had to big him up after busting Rondo's ass pause last night"
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8-of-15 for 23 with 3 boards, 9 assists, 1 steal and three 3's

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88. "Top 5 Tony is sitting pretty on top: King of the Hill"
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Dude busted CP3s ass in the post-season. Russy is Russy. Rondo has gone MIA.......D-Will bwahhhhhhhhaaaaa. 3 chips and 10 years later still shooting 50% and averaging career highs across the board.

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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89. "*ahem*"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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90. "Top 2 Tony"
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