*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

Kirk is a lot more likable than I would’ve ever expected. That man was going through it this season.
I’m about 4 eps in so far.

<--- Big Baller World Order

Mahomes is corny AF, but not in a hateable way like Russell Wilson.

Lol

remind me again why didnt we just fucking pay AJ
stupid ass franchise

<--- Big Baller World Order

I thought they were in a semi-rebuild mode and thats why they flirted with trading Henry. Overpaying Hopkins makes no sense. Theyre middle of the pack, even with him. They need a QB

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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

>remind me again why didnt we just fucking pay AJ
>stupid ass franchise

I don't understand NFL skill position player salaries for sure.

Amari Cooper is making 20 million a year and *DMX voice* 'its all good, its alright'. But the general idea online is that giving Hopkins 13 for 2 years is crazy talk?

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/wide-receiver/

And don't start me on how people have just accepted and keep yelling from the tallest thing they can find that RBs should all be making kicker money (3 or 4 million type money). And then they show up shocked when their favorite team can't run the ball. The truth has to be somewhere in between 'one good season means you make 20 million a year for 3 years' and 'yeah, you're 26 years old so fuck you, buddy..take this 3.9 million a year or we're gonna sign some failed Broncos RBs and do whatever we can do with them'.

how the fuck is a guy who touches the ball 20 times a game worth peanuts but a WR who might touch the ball 7 times a game worth 20 mill???

and dont tell me its easy to replace a RB and almost impossible to replace a WR. That’s bullshit. Everyone is replaceable and new talent comes out every year.

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at the lower levels these guys are usually the best athletes on the team but I'm wondering with the NFL current money situation will kids start to move away from the position?

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

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want to play the position when before everyone did

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

Just to get a sniff in the league when they otherwise wouldnt

<--- Big Baller World Order

In 5 years DJ Moore has 5200 yards and 21 TD’s.. also has 335 rushing yards.

In 5 years Chubb has 6340 yards and 48 TD’s… oh, he also has 1000 rec yards and 4 TD’s.

I understand DJ Moore will have a chance at a longer career due to being a WR but I don’t understand how he is making $20 Mill per season with those stats

DJ is the 10th highest paid WR I believe.

I dont understand this pay structure.

add to it, in the last 22 SB’s only 3 had All Pro Wide receivers on the winning team.

What exactly is the logic that RB’s who have elite stats can’t get paid like WR’s on short contracts? Why is $15 mill seen as wasteful spending?


Steelers paid Deontea Johnson $18 Mill per.. dude had ZERO TD’s last year. Najee has averaged 10 TD’s his first 2 years, over 1,000 yards rushing each year behind a shit OL and Steeler fans dont want to sign Najee to a dollar over $4 mill per year on his next contract.

Make it make sense.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

..all the leverage in the world, but afraid to strike.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

What would you strike over? Better pay for running backs?

That money is flowing into the pockets of other positions, unlikely that receivers, linemen, QBs, and corners are eager to change that. '

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

http://coolehmag.com/frontEnd/

the market for a lot of top tier players is artificially depressed because guys are forced to negotiate with one team with no competitive bidding.

That's not going to really help running backs THAT much. Young guys who are also STARS, yeah, maybe, but maybe not. Might be better off taking that franchise money than the deals you are going to get in FA as long as people think that they can get those same results rotating noname backs. Just don't get hurt lol,

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

http://coolehmag.com/frontEnd/

>..all the leverage in the world, but afraid to strike.
>
>
>
>
>*skatin' the rings of saturn*
>
>
>..and miles to go before i sleep...

If what that Gruden/Snyder ESPN article a few wks back alleged is true, it's ridiculous that Smith still runs the NFLPA

doesn't look like this guy will change anything

..they typically elect someone from their ranks with NFL experience, so this is a serious break from the norm.

I'd like to believe its because they finally recognize they've been negotiating against their own interest for quite some time, but only time will tell.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

I don't agree with the premise but the premise is, you can find a new Chubb out there in the fourth or fifth round of the draft, or in free agency, or even UDFAs

Meanwhile finding a potential number one receiver is hard. Also the receiver is seen as inextricably tied to the QBs success and the QB is the be-all, end-all to these GMs. If you don't get receivers to support your massive investment at QB, then you are doing it wrong.

No one really thinks a high end running back is needed to support a QB.

Personally, I don't think coaches even make much effort to design or create good running plays, or innovate in the run game at all. And if they do, it involves the QB or a receiver/hybrid player running the ball.

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

http://coolehmag.com/frontEnd/

we dipped to 32nd in rushing tow years after he left.

The last time we won a playoff game Bell broke the rushing record for most yards by a RB in his first 2 playoff games.

we ended up drafting Najee because the rushing attack was so bad

yet they say we were better off without Bell because he looked like shit for the Jets after taking a year off. Dude was an All Pro in 2018 before taking a year off.


While I agree you can find RB’s later and plug guys in quicker, is it really any different than another position? There are tons of players ready to fill EVERY position and it just depends on which one you choose to insert.

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>we dipped to 32nd in rushing tow years after he left.
>
>The last time we won a playoff game Bell broke the rushing
>record for most yards by a RB in his first 2 playoff games.
>
>we ended up drafting Najee because the rushing attack was so
>bad
>
>yet they say we were better off without Bell because he looked
>like shit for the Jets after taking a year off. Dude was an
>All Pro in 2018 before taking a year off.
>
>
>While I agree you can find RB’s later and plug guys in
>quicker, is it really any different than another position?

The NFL decision makers think it is different


>There are tons of players ready to fill EVERY position and it
>just depends on which one you choose to insert.

This is definitely not true though.

Elite pass rushers
Offensive tackles
Quarterbacks

are definitely not guys you see easily replaced when they dip

Also running backs represent a part of the game that lots of people no longer think is important. For the record, I don't agree with them but the logic is; if you have to win the game by passing the ball, running is of secondary importance. At most it's a way to try and set up the passing game, so why devote significant resources to it.

I am waiting for the day someone flips the whole shit and start running out of I-formation with an elite back and a bunch of big linemen, blowing these 220 pound linebackers and 235 pound defensive ends off the ball.

But maybe that is like waiting for an NBA team to build an offense around a big man who plays with his back to the basket?

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

http://coolehmag.com/frontEnd/

but some suggest you CAN replace elite RB talent with a 7th round guy or a UDFA because its “easy” to play RB.

Its not easy. If it was we would see every team with a 1500 yard, 12 TD RB.

and RB’s do more them just tote the rock, they have to pick up blitzers, know all the audibles and catch out of the backfield.

Every team has a back up player at every position. Some will show up and show out, some will be adequate and some will fail.

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>but some suggest you CAN replace elite RB talent with a 7th
>round guy or a UDFA because its “easy” to play RB.
>
>Its not easy. If it was we would see every team with a 1500
>yard, 12 TD RB.
>
>and RB’s do more them just tote the rock, they have to pick
>up blitzers, know all the audibles and catch out of the
>backfield.
>
>Every team has a back up player at every position. Some will
>show up and show out, some will be adequate and some will
>fail.
>

Right on all of this. RBs are, in theory, 'easier to replace' than a specifically talented QB or prime years edge rusher. That doesn't mean every team can and does 'replace' their RBs well every time. There's too much focus on the success stories with come out of nowhere RBs. There's examples of this going sideways too. And what about the teams walking around with 4 RBs but they don't actually like any of them (not the Niners btw..and even in their case? Look at what the fuck they went and did! Deebo, CMC, AND they tried to throw a dual threat QB into that too).

At this point, a team with a 'thunder and lightning' combo is a good dream. KC is working on that now with Pacheco and McKinnon. And really, some of that works better because of unrealistically good QB play and playcalling working in tandem. No other team has Andy and Pat so they can't be the template for anyone else. And even if it is: the Chargers are catching hell finding a fair partner for Ekeler post-Gordon.

And really, when Brady did his thing and Kurt Warner got great for a bit from 'sacking groceries', the league didn't show up in unison and say 'you know what? Gimme nothing but barely drafted/undrafted QBs with the right attitudes, baby! We don't want or need any of these pedigreed QBs who have been putting up numbers since they were 7! FUCK THAT!'. And they obviously didn't say 'let's hold our really good QBs hostage on franchise tags and not give any of them contracts..yeah, that's it. Fuck em!' (except Washington, but hey..they're known idiots). BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DAMN SENSE!

And don't start me on the pass-catching RBs who are bailing out their offenses on a regular basis..even if its the cheap little dump-offs that get yards AND sets up other plays when the middle of the field is a little bit more open because a defense can't keep giving up yards forever. And really don't start me on the guys who are running wheel routes and other things that could be considered 'real routes'.

Its all a mess. The truth HAS TO BE somewhere in between. I get it if no one wants to give out Zeke deals but teams can't think they're gonna Latavius Murray their way to glory either.

Someone has to prove the value of a pedigreed running back on a SuperBowl team.

It's a copycat league.


I think someone could win out here with a power rushing/playaction based offense, but no one is going to do that until someone wins a title (or gets close!)
doing it.

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

http://coolehmag.com/frontEnd/

its just wild how a WR can have 85 yards and a TD in a SB and its “see, this is why you pay them the bug bucks!!”

yet if a RB has 85 yards and a TD in a SB its “this is why you dont pay RB’s”

there is a ridiculous amount of love for any other skill position that wins a SB except for RB’s.

and I think I read a stat where only 3 ALL PRO WR’s have won a SB the last 22 years yet WR get PAID like high priced WR’s win a lot of SB’s.

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Hurts and Mahomes had more combined rushing yards than both team's top running backs in the last Super Bowl.

it's a passing league now, and receivers elevate the quarterback more than a running back does. it used to be "running game helps a quarterback" but that is only for the bad/mediocre quarterbacks (see: Indy, Tennessee).

if you go back to the last 10 SuperBowls, almost every single team would prefer to have their WR1 over their RB1 if they had to pick one or the other to play in the championship.

Travis Kelce (basically WR1) > Isaiah Pacheco
AJ Brown > Miles Sanders
Cooper Kupp > Cam Akers
Ja'marr Chase > Joe Mixon
Tyreek Hill > Clyde Edwards-Helaire
Tyreek Hill > Damien Williams
Gronk > Leonard Fournette
Deebo Samuel > Raheem Mostert
Brandin Cooks > Todd Gurley
Julian Edelman or Gronk > James White
Julian Edelman or Gronk > Sony Michel
Julian Edelman or Gronk > LeGarrette Blount
Julio Jones > Devonta Freeman
Greg Olsen > Jonathan Stewart
DeMaryius Thomas > Knowshon Moreno

Alshon Jeffrey = Blount
Emmanuel Sanders = CJ Anderson

Marshawn Lynch > Doug Baldwin (2x)
James White > Julian Edelman (in the ATL game)

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>Hurts and Mahomes had more combined rushing yards than both
>team's top running backs in the last Super Bowl.
>
>it's a passing league now, and receivers elevate the
>quarterback more than a running back does. it used to be
>"running game helps a quarterback" but that is only for the
>bad/mediocre quarterbacks (see: Indy, Tennessee).
>
>if you go back to the last 10 SuperBowls, almost every single
>team would prefer to have their WR1 over their RB1 if they had
>to pick one or the other to play in the championship.
>
>Travis Kelce (basically WR1) > Isaiah Pacheco
>AJ Brown > Miles Sanders
>Cooper Kupp > Cam Akers
>Ja'marr Chase > Joe Mixon
>Tyreek Hill > Clyde Edwards-Helaire
>Tyreek Hill > Damien Williams
>Gronk > Leonard Fournette
>Deebo Samuel > Raheem Mostert

Deebo is basically a RB/WR

>Brandin Cooks > Todd Gurley

revisionist history at the time hell no

>Julian Edelman or Gronk > James White
>Julian Edelman or Gronk > Sony Michel
>Julian Edelman or Gronk > LeGarrette Blount
>Julio Jones > Devonta Freeman
>Greg Olsen > Jonathan Stewart
>DeMaryius Thomas > Knowshon Moreno
>
>Alshon Jeffrey = Blount
>Emmanuel Sanders = CJ Anderson
>
>Marshawn Lynch > Doug Baldwin (2x)

what??

>James White > Julian Edelman (in the ATL game)

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

>Deebo is basically a RB/WR

OK

>>Brandin Cooks > Todd Gurley
>
>revisionist history at the time hell no

Gurley was hurt all postseason and CJ Anderson was more production during the playoffs (so even though Gurley was an All-Pro that season, the Rams still made the SuperBowl with a replacement-level player at RB)

Gurley never recovered either

>>Marshawn Lynch > Doug Baldwin (2x)
>
>what??

the two times Seattle was in the SuperBowl the last decade they went against the WR > RB trend (Lynch > Baldwin)

>>James White > Julian Edelman (in the ATL game)

unless you were saying what to this -- White was pretty dangerous that Super Bowl as a passing outlet and caught like a million Brady dumpoffs to keep them in that game

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https://twitter.com/Seahawks/status/1681688344621621249

marketing team ate on this one.

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>https://twitter.com/Seahawks/status/1681688344621621249
>
>marketing team ate on this one.

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

on paper we got a top 3 WR corps.

I forgot how sweet that colorway is.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1683794241754140672?s=46&t=yLHztUCmKDcGCmeP7zGWHg

<--- Big Baller World Order

*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

so they became free agents sooner since their primes are so short and so early

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

Colts got his prime for $7 million over 4 years and now he'll enter a devalued market in 2024

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and they can turn right around and franchise him again, next season. Ryan Clark was like dude could be the league MVP this season and come into next year with LESS value.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

________________________________________
"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

this season

any bruise and I’m Lamar Jackson.

I don’t trust my ankle/knee/thigh

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RBs don’t have a winning play here.

The rest of the league won’t stand with them to get their bread
The drop off between an elite back and a filler back isn’t that big of a deal (shoutout to DOnta Forman looking like a baby Derrick Henry for us)
If you are elite you are most likely going to get rode into the ground
If you do hold out they’ll just pass the sticks to the next man who will do like 80% as good for 20% of the price

They are just cooked

<--- Big Baller World Order

healthy as a muhhhfukka.

fuck them.

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>healthy as a muhhhfukka.
>
>fuck them.

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

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Like someone like Bijan Robinson, if they play up to their potential, might be able to leverage their value into forcing the team to view them as a hybrid, ala Deebo Samuel. Deebo also was a gadget-type guy who almost got classified as a RB but used their power to get WR money.

But we're seeing in this round of RB negotiations that the system is broken.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

unless you win a SB and win MVP they will use that production against him.

As soon as he gets injured

As soon as they lose a few games


RB’s get blamed for everything.


If a RB gets hurt and they lose games its HIS fault for nit being durable.

Any other skill position that gets injured and the team loses games.. “This is why that player is so important to the team”

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Saquon is an exception. He IS the offense. He has every right to gripe.

But even a guy like Dalvin Cook, who's pretty damn good...he remains unsigned because I can probably find comparable production in the 2nd or 3rd round of the draft for 1/5 the cost.

I hate cop out replies like "I see both sides" but I really do see both sides. RBs truly ARE getting a raw deal, but those dollars you DON'T spend on a RB could be used to add depth on the D-line or recruit a solid Corner starter in Free Agency.

in the draft.

it sounds good but I think its bullshit and if you look at WRs making 10 mill per, I bet money you can find that same production in the draft with the way colleges and HS use spread offenses.

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>in the draft.
>
>it sounds good but I think its bullshit and if you look at WRs
>making 10 mill per, I bet money you can find that same
>production in the draft with the way colleges and HS use
>spread offenses.
>
>

The thing I think the Vikes miss with Cook is SOME OF THE free touchdowns/big hit plays. Cook is really good for that. And Kirk needs those + Jefferson.

but a Daniel Jones, Tannehill or Kirk Cousins???

those dudes aren’t throwing their team to a championship.

Kirk checked down on 4th and 12.
Tannehill had 3 INT’s
Daniel Jones is trash without Barkley with a 77 passer rating.

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>but a Daniel Jones, Tannehill or Kirk Cousins???
>
>those dudes aren’t throwing their team to a championship.
>
>Kirk checked down on 4th and 12.
>Tannehill had 3 INT’s
>Daniel Jones is trash without Barkley with a 77 passer rating.
>

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

>Like someone like Bijan Robinson, if they play up to their
>potential, might be able to leverage their value into forcing
>the team to view them as a hybrid, ala Deebo Samuel. Deebo
>also was a gadget-type guy who almost got classified as a RB
>but used their power to get WR money.
>
>But we're seeing in this round of RB negotiations that the
>system is broken.

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38083353/bengals-joe-burrow-carted-practice-field-calf-injury




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

since he saw that Herbert contract

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he'll have to sit down for a second but it's not too serious.

also, he'd be cashed out even if half his calf fell off. that's just the way it is.

Is secured. The Bengals are about to open up the Federal Reserve for him. Hometown kid who has lived up to all the expectations, they aren’t going to mess around with him.

..after an on-field collision with Tyreek Hill in practice. Expected to miss the start of the season.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38082716/dolphins-cb-jalen-ramsey-carted-back-locker-room-practice


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

these dudes look like death

the fuck is that about?

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.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

he is in late stage Al Davis mode

“If I die tonight and Jonathan Taylor is out of the league, no one’s gonna miss us. The league goes on." (c) Irsay today

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..and the NFLPA won't take a stand against this kind of manipulation.

You don't want to pay the man what he's actually worth, but you won't let him seek a better contract with another team?

FOH.

The days of waiting to get paid (while hoping to avoid a major injury) are over. I wouldn't be upset at any athlete that chooses to sit.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

this could get ugly.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38097042/colts-jonathan-taylor-awaits-decision-trade-request

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1685612371945947136?s=20


NFLPA needs to fix this...but the CBA goes until 2030 (WTF)

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He can’t afford to sit

<--- Big Baller World Order

..Collectively, there's no reason the union wouldn't be able to support members when situations like this arise.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

of course it will hurt him short term

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Colts' Taylor denies report of suffering back injury before training camp
https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2684219

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

..as soon as you start making noise, here come the allegations and mud-slinging.

They'll work to exploit every loophole. Anything to avoid actually paying people their value.

This is what the Shield does.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

to avoid paying him and suppress other teams from trade offers

if he isn’t that valuable why go through all of this?

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>to avoid paying him and suppress other teams from trade
>offers
>
>if he isn’t that valuable why go through all of this?

Right. If the Colts were playing it straight, they'd cut him. But they obviously aren't so they'll try to drag him. People who don't know better will take their side cuz 'RBs have no valya and they need to figure it out or try to play every snap like CMC' is in the average bro handbook of sports logic now (similar to 'Lebron started superteams and trade demands in the NBA').

And Taylor will have to be on his best behavior for the next half decade at least to be 'vindicated'.

Otherwise, he's Lay Bell, Melvin Gordon, *insert any of like 10 WRs who really wanted their papers over the last 20 years*, etc.

Its adorable that the Chargers are doing the fool with ANOTHER RB when they're comfortably paying both Allen and Williams 20 million apiece. And they know they have Ekeler getting all sorts of touches every week.

As soon as his touches are reduced from 302 to 272.

“SEE, THEY GAVE WARREN SOME TOUCHES WHICH PROVES NAJEE ISNT THAT VALUABLE!!!”

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..from top to bottom and that includes the fans.

You can't expect men to perform like gladiators for cheap.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

>..from top to bottom and that includes the fans.
>
>You can't expect men to perform like gladiators for cheap.

.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

Lmao. I don't understand this situation at all, besides Irsay being a drug addict senile old man. They're the one team that desperately needs a dominant All-Pro back for their new QB

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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

>Lmao. I don't understand this situation at all, besides Irsay
>being a drug addict senile old man. They're the one team that
>desperately needs a dominant All-Pro back for their new QB

And they almost certainly have the money. But Irsay doesn't want to get teased at his next orgy for 'paying a RB tew much munny'. And duh, we know he's not serious about trying to win or anything.

Isn’t this a thing you do with 30-something year old stars who want one last shot at a title and you can’t give it to them?

bc Trey Lance is an outright bust with a capital B

Kyle apparently wanted Mac Jones and that's why they moved up in the draft.

Trey Lance was third overall, now he's third on the depth chart. Damn.

and all this means is Lance will be playing by week 8 the way SF runs though QB’s.. j/k

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no way they take Lance without Kyle all-in

sad fact is, Lance has only played 18 real football games over the last 4 four years

good news is he is 23

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>no way they take Lance without Kyle all-in
>
>sad fact is, Lance has only played 18 real football games over
>the last 4 four years
>
>good news is he is 23

You want to believe he’ll get another chance but it’s hard to say..when people give up on you, you might be toast…especially if you can’t get people to root for you/like you with some kind of intangibles.

I’m trying to think of a team who is up a creek at qb and would be willing to kick the tires on him. Raiders?