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"2013 CFB offseason post pt. II"
Tue Jul-30-13 12:23 PM by guru0509

  

          

because 300 replies is enough...(even if 150 are mine)


- Carlos Hyde..not guilty. Case closed. Back to business.

- Polo Manukainiu, a redshirt freshman defensive lineman at Texas A&M, and Gaius Vaenuku, an incoming freshman defensive tackle at Utah, were killed in a rollover accident yesterday (from what ppl are saying, they didnt have seat belts on and were ejected from the car) . sad shit. RIP.

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Five breakthrough offenses

All good college football programs have an identity.

Several teams, such as Oregon, Texas A&M and half of the Big 12 have established their identities on the offensive side of the ball. Nobody questions whether those units will score a lot of points. That much is taken for granted.

There are other teams which play good offense, but aren't necessarily known for it. Because they don't break the 40-point barrier on a regular basis, these teams' strengths typically show up in efficiency statistics more than in conventional ones.

The following five squads fit that mold in 2012. They were much better offensively than most people realized, and because of returning experience, there are good reasons to believe they'll have breakthrough seasons on offense in 2013.



Alabama Crimson Tide
Nobody questions the Crimson Tide's recent track record, but many college football fans have yet to recognize that Alabama excels on more than one side of the ball. On Twitter, and even in the hallways at ESPN, I still read and hear suggestions that Alabama is a pedestrian offensive team and "can't score."

That could be attributed to the Tide having such a strong defensive identity. I'm sure some of that opinion is residue from the 9-6 loss to LSU in 2011, but it might also be a result of so many people being conditioned to look at the wrong statistics.


Last season, the Tide ranked a mere 31st in the FBS in total offense (yards per game), which is a great example of why per-game stats are inferior to per-play and per-drive stats when comparing offenses that don't run a fast tempo against those that do. Consider that the 2012 Bama offense also ranked fifth in the FBS in yards per play and third in points per drive.

Those latter numbers better reflect the Tide's EPA (expected points added) ranking, which measures what a team is able to do relative to the position (yard line, down and distance) it finds itself in. Alabama ranked fourth in the FBS in adjusted offensive EPA last season (the adjustment is for the quality of opposing defenses), a ranking partly influenced by the Tide being 16th in passing EPA (as opposed to 75th in passing yards per game).

And now, for the first time in the Nick Saban era, Bama has a QB entering his third season as a starter. AJ McCarron was arguably the nation's most efficient passer a year ago, throwing 30 touchdowns and only three interceptions -- stats compiled with an injury-depleted receiving corps and a top target, Amari Cooper, who was a true freshman. Those injured receivers are all back, along with Cooper. If recruiting analysts are correct, Alabama might also have a big-play threat at the tight end/H-back position in O.J. Howard.

Longtime Bama observers believe this is the most explosive group of receivers the program has ever had, and many would suggest that there's even more talent at running back as well. T.J. Yeldon rushed for more than 1,100 yards as a freshman backup last season and figures to be the primary ball carrier this year. The only question is whether the operative depth chart will have one player behind him or as many as four.

On paper, the only real concern for the 2013 Alabama offense -- and it's a big one -- is replacing three NFL draft picks on the offensive line (two first-rounders and an Outland Trophy winner). But with the two returning starters also being of NFL caliber, and the team having averaged more than 5 yards per rush in each of the last four seasons, it feels like Bama is more likely to reload up front than to have to rebuild.

Because it doesn't play an up-tempo style, you probably won't see Alabama alongside teams like Oregon, Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, Baylor or Clemson in the conventional per-game offensive stats. But if the Tide can meet their usual standards in the running game and add more explosive plays in the passing game, as expected, then it's very possible they could be in the argument for being college football's best offense by the end of the season.



Texas Longhorns
Although they showed great offensive improvement from 2011, last season's Longhorns still didn't rank in the top half of their conference in any conventional category (sixth in rushing, sixth in passing, sixth in total offense, seventh in scoring). And on the national scale, Texas ranked 40th in the FBS in yards per game.

Adjusted offensive EPA rated the Horns as the nation's No. 11 offense in 2012, even though that barely got them into the upper half of Big 12 teams. The reason: EPA suggests that the Texas running game was undervalued last year, ranking it 13th in the FBS despite being 53rd in rushing yards per game. Aside from the Ole Miss and Baylor games, the Longhorns weren't spectacular when it came to running the ball, but they were good at avoiding negative plays, which EPA recognizes. Texas was tied for eighth nationally with only three rushing fumbles lost, and it had the 18th-fewest rushes for minus yardage.

Anyone who puts stock in recruiting rankings would consider the Horns' backfield to be loaded. Johnathan Gray and Malcolm Brown were two of the most sought after running backs in the 2011 and 2012 classes, yet Joe Bergeron is the guy scoring most of the team's touchdowns. In all, Texas returns its top four rushers from last season.

Even more important is that the Longhorns return all of their starting offensive linemen and have some depth in that unit, as well. QB David Ash is also back after showing great improvement in his sophomore season, and he's now the most veteran player in the Big 12 at his position.

With so much returning experience, Texas already seemed like a good bet to make further offensive strides this season, and that seems even more likely -- especially in conventional stat categories -- now that it's decided to shift to an up-tempo attack. There's no reason to believe the Longhorns shouldn't be one of the top offenses in the Big 12 this season, and if so, that would mean production they haven't shown since the Colt McCoy days.



Notre Dame Fighting Irish
The Irish were, by all appearances, an average offensive team last year, ranking 54th in the nation in yards per game. Digging a little deeper, however, we see that Notre Dame faced four top-10 defenses plus three others that ranked in the top third of the FBS (according to adjusted defensive EPA), which makes those offensive struggles much more understandable.

That degree of difficulty posed by the opposition is a big reason why Notre Dame ranked 18th in adjusted offensive EPA in 2012. An underrated passing attack (71st in the FBS in yards per game but 24th in passing EPA) is another reason. But as many people are aware, the Irish lost their top receiving target, Tyler Eifert, to the NFL, and starting QB Everett Golson is no longer on the roster.

Therefore, any chance of Notre Dame continuing to improve on offense this season probably rests on the arm of quarterback Tommy Rees. Fortunately for the Irish, Total QBR -- ESPN's metric that measures all aspects of quarterback play -- says he's the equal of Golson. Rees had an opponent-adjusted rating of 69 (on a 100-point scale) for last season, which was slightly better than Golson's 67 (35th among FBS starters). And over a three-year college career that has lacked continuity, Rees has still managed to produce better-than-average numbers along the way.

Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly arrived in South Bend with a reputation as a quarterback developer, and even though we've seen little of that in the last three seasons, this will be his first chance to work with a veteran QB as his starter. If you still believe in Kelly as an offensive guru, it's hard not to like the potential of this Notre Dame unit.

One area of likely improvement is big-play production. Rees is a better passer than Golson, and that should give Notre Dame more opportunities through the air. And without an elite tight end as a security blanket this season, expect the Irish to get the ball into the hands of their wideouts more often. Although TJ Jones has proved himself reliable, DaVaris Daniels may be the target who proves to be a difference-maker, with more opportunities to make plays.

Without the threat of Golson behind center, the running game will be different, but the explosive George Atkinson III figures to get more touches after the departure of leading rushers Theo Riddick and Cierre Wood. If either of two highly rated recruits can make significant contributions, the running game might also produce more big plays, even if it proves to be less consistent overall.

The bottom line is that Notre Dame has recruited well enough in recent years that losing a few impact players should not signal a step backward for the offense. If anything, an experienced QB should finally show us signs of what we thought the Irish would be when Kelly was hired.



Michigan Wolverines
After years of watching Denard Robinson give opposing defenses fits, it was odd to see the Wolverines rank 78th in the nation in yards per game last season. Michigan, however, had a similar situation to Notre Dame, having to face four top-10 defenses (Alabama, Notre Dame, Michigan State and South Carolina). Therefore, it's not surprising to see the opponent adjustment lift the Wolverines into the top 25 in offensive EPA (22nd, to be exact, one spot behind Ohio State).

Of course, if you look at those four outings against top-10 defenses, Michigan played a good offensive game in only one of them, the Outback Bowl against South Carolina, which happens to be the only game of the group in which Devin Gardner played quarterback. That's an encouraging stat, since Gardner is now the starting QB. Although he didn't have nearly enough action plays to qualify for the national rankings, Gardner had a 2012 QBR of 91, which is Johnny Manziel territory (Manziel led the FBS in QBR with that number). Maybe he wasn't that good in his five games behind center, but Gardner was exceptionally effective, especially for someone who played most of the season at wide receiver.

Don't forget that Brady Hoke had strong offensive teams at Ball State and San Diego State before coming to Michigan. He inherited a QB in Robinson who was such a dynamic playmaker that it forced Hoke to adapt his offense. Gardner is much more the type of quarterback Hoke would prefer to have running the show, so it would stand to reason that we'd see even more of his playbook this fall than we saw at the end of last season. In a way, 2013 may be the grand opening of an offense that's been under construction for the last two years.

There are certainly concerns in Michigan's lineup for this season. Notably, a lack of experience in the middle of the offensive line and very few proven commodities on the depth chart at receiver. But having a quarterback who's a real threat in the passing game should provide a big boost to the Wolverines' rushing attack. And with Gardner's go-to guy, Jeremy Gallon, back at receiver, this offense could be formidable if one more wideout can step up and provide a big-play threat.



Wisconsin Badgers
Continuing the theme of a Big Ten offense that didn't live up to its reputation a year ago, Wisconsin finished 65th in the FBS in yards per game in 2012 after being 14th the previous season. And as you might have guessed by their inclusion in this article, the Badgers were much better than 65th in adjusted offensive EPA. They were, in fact, 26th.

That EPA ranking was due in large part to having a top-10 rushing attack and taking care of the football. Wisconsin had the third-fewest turnovers per game in the FBS last season, which was no surprise, since it had led the nation in that category each of the previous two seasons. EPA obviously expects a good offense to score points, but the metric recognizes that another part of being a good offense is not leaving your defense in a tight spot by giving the ball away instead of punting. Bret Bielema had mastered that element of offensive play with his Wisconsin teams, so it will be interesting to see how well Gary Andersen continues the trend. Andersen's Utah State teams didn't rank in the top 40 for ball protection in any of the last three seasons.

One thing Andersen's teams did very well, however, was run the ball (fifth in the FBS in yards per rush last year; second in 2011), and you can be sure that was a big reason why he was hired. After all, Wisconsin has a reputation to uphold. The Badgers will continue to be a running team, and James White looks like the next featured back in an offense that has churned out 1,000-yard rushers for most of the last 20 seasons.

Some less-publicized good news for this year's offense is that Curt Phillips (QBR: 66) and Joel Stave (QBR: 61) give the Badgers two solid options at quarterback. Those QBR numbers indicate above-average performance by both guys in 2012 -- a great sign, considering neither had thrown a meaningful pass in a college game before last season. And with their top two targets, WR Jared Abbrederis and TE Jacob Pedersen, also returning, there are plenty of reasons to believe that this year's Wisconsin offense will be better than last year's deceptively good unit.

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HOW ABOUT 5 BREAKTHROUGH DEFENSES THOUGH
Jul 30th 2013
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lol
Jul 30th 2013
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      http://tinyurl.com/lv3okx5
Jul 30th 2013
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      dat Fresno D should be a joy to watch again.
Aug 02nd 2013
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i think he misses games, unfortunately. the whole situation is wack
Jul 30th 2013
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id be shocked if he missed more than 1 game...nm
Jul 30th 2013
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      it's 3 games
Jul 30th 2013
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           Why is he suspended for any games at all? Did I miss
Jul 30th 2013
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           RE: Why is he suspended for any games at all? Did I miss
Jul 30th 2013
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                LMAO @ the buttslap at 3:05...
Jul 31st 2013
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           2 games I would have been pissed but whatever...3 games though?
Jul 30th 2013
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                it's actually AT LEAST 3 games
Jul 30th 2013
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                     there's got to be something else he did, right?
Jul 30th 2013
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                          no. from all accounts he's been a fine citizen.
Jul 30th 2013
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                               at Cal is the only possible trouble spot
Jul 31st 2013
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Sark is just wonderful
Jul 30th 2013
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There must have been a 911 call documenting his crime
Aug 02nd 2013
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Buckeyes... get ya boy..
Jul 31st 2013
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HE sittin on a beach towel??
Jul 31st 2013
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dude sounds like Toby from The Office lol
Jul 31st 2013
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15 min? I'm gonna need a synopsis
Jul 31st 2013
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The Bottom 5 Head coaches in CFB
Aug 02nd 2013
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He did nail the Top 3
Aug 02nd 2013
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first 4 imo
Aug 02nd 2013
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Mack Brown... the rapture in Longhorn nation when Muschamp went to FL
Aug 02nd 2013
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Larry Fedora on there is stupid.
Aug 10th 2013
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Ranking the nations top 10 QB battles
Aug 02nd 2013
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man fuck you espn
Aug 02nd 2013
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USA Today preseason rankings came out yesterday
Aug 02nd 2013
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theyd be higher if Golson didn't get expelled...nm
Aug 02nd 2013
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So how many chances does Jeremy Hill get?
Aug 05th 2013
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Top 50 breakout players for 2013
Aug 06th 2013
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I love how all these guys talk up Armstead...
Aug 06th 2013
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the buzz and early reports on this dude are something serious
Aug 07th 2013
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      a college buddy of mine lives in Cedar Hill (near DeSoto)
Aug 07th 2013
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           it's strange that he wasnt a 5 star
Aug 07th 2013
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                LaMike wasn't even a 4, and the only reason DAT was a 5
Aug 12th 2013
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Make 5 predictions (bold or not) about teams OTHER than yours....
Aug 07th 2013
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I'll bet you whatever you want that Oregon does not put 70 on us
Aug 10th 2013
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would 50 points be a small victory?
Aug 10th 2013
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40-50 would be a step in the right direction
Aug 10th 2013
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I forgot Byron Moore was still playing college ball
Aug 10th 2013
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Yep, he'll be a senior. He's alright.
Aug 10th 2013
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lmao
Aug 10th 2013
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if Helfrich is an asshole, I could absolutely see them putting up 60
Aug 10th 2013
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yea you have enough athletes to keep us under 70
Aug 10th 2013
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I'm rooting for Logan Thomas this year.
Aug 10th 2013
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me too, he looks the part..hoping he can put it together.
Aug 10th 2013
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i think Stanford is goin undefeated
Aug 12th 2013
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      we are coming to the farm for blood
Aug 12th 2013
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      REALLY looking forward to that game
Aug 12th 2013
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      got a tough one against UGA to set the season off
Aug 12th 2013
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           i think thats gonna be a fun one
Aug 13th 2013
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                LSU just schedule wisky...what's up with Stanford and OOC?
Aug 13th 2013
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Explaining college football rule changes
Aug 10th 2013
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one of my favorite CFB gifs
Aug 10th 2013
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lol at them recording each other
Aug 10th 2013
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I love how DeAnthony lunged for the finish line
Aug 10th 2013
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derrick green is really really fat
Aug 19th 2013
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season ending foot surgery for Amara Darboh - fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Aug 21st 2013
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1. "HOW ABOUT 5 BREAKTHROUGH DEFENSES THOUGH"
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smug ass Guru and his bullshit when talking Oregon defense

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Five breakthrough defenses
Oregon, Oklahoma State among teams poised for big defensive seasons
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Oregon led all Football Bowl Subdivision teams in forced turnovers and interceptions last season.
On Monday, I highlighted five potential breakout offenses for 2013, using advanced metrics to identify units that were much better last year than conventional stats indicated and have the key components to be even better this season.

The same concepts hold true for evaluating the potential breakout defenses. Because of the different offensive tempos in modern college football, per-game statistics can't accurately assess the quality of a unit. Numbers become skewed by hurry-up teams -- positively toward offenses and negatively toward defenses.

Regardless of pace, the objective of defensive football is still to keep the opposing offense from scoring. How well that goal is achieved just has to be defined by rates instead of raw box-score numbers. When we look at stats this way, surprises usually emerge, such as the following five defenses that were undervalued last season and should begin to earn more respect in 2013.



Oregon Ducks
The Ducks' defense is similar to Alabama's offense; both teams have built their reputations on one side of the ball, which causes the other side of the ball to be taken lightly by casual fans.

Don't be fooled by Oregon's ranking of 44th in yards allowed per game last season. The Ducks had one of the more effective defenses in college football, and that's shown through the Expected Points Added metric, which evaluates how much each phase of the game contributes to winning. The EPA numbers are adjusted for the strength of the opposing unit, which means that defenses are judged, in part, by the quality of the offenses they face.

Last season, Oregon ranked sixth in the nation in adjusted defensive EPA, which takes into account the numerous times that the Ducks' defense either scored a TD or set up the Oregon offense in scoring position with a turnover. The Ducks led the Football Bowl Subdivision in both forced turnovers (40) and interceptions (26), four of which were returned for a touchdown. Because of that, the defense that ranked 56th in passing yards allowed per game was rated second nationally in adjusted pass defense EPA.

So what does this mean for 2013? Normally, a defense that lost as many key players as Oregon did would not be expected to repeat its performance the next season, but this program is better prepared than most. Because an up-tempo offense has a way of wearing down its own defense in addition to the opposition's, the Ducks rotate more defensive players than, perhaps, any team in college football, often going three deep at most positions. This means that Oregon's new starters always have playing experience.

While statistics show that it's incredibly difficult to force a large number of turnovers with regularity, it's worth pointing out that the Ducks ranked second in the nation in 2010, so the success in 2012 seems much less random.

The Oregon program reached new heights under Chip Kelly, and even though he's gone, the momentum should continue. The program's higher profile has attracted a higher level of recruits, which should be evident in the talent upgrade the Ducks have shown on defense. With players who are bigger and faster than Oregon has ever had, the unit should continue to improve in conventional areas, such as yards allowed and red zone stops. If it can do that and still force about 30 turnovers in 2013, the Ducks should finally earn national recognition as the difference-making defense they've been for the past three seasons.




Oklahoma State Cowboys
The Oklahoma State defensive profile is very similar to Oregon's, albeit one rung lower when it comes to effectiveness. The team allows a lot of yardage (80th in yards per game) but grades out much better in EPA (16th in adjusted defensive EPA). The big gap occurs with pass defense (110th in yards allowed per game and 23rd in adjusted pass defense EPA).

One big difference is that the Cowboys don't have an important stat that could be difficult to duplicate this season, such as a high ranking in turnovers forced. In fact, Oklahoma State has plenty of upside when it comes to generating negative plays, having ranked 57th in turnovers and 66th in sacks a year ago. Increases in those areas in 2013 -- a realistic possibility -- would further improve an already good EPA.

As mentioned in my June article on EPA, the Cowboys' defenders could use a bit of help from their teammates on other units when it comes to the scoreboard. OSU gave up seven touchdowns last season when the defense wasn't on the field, and even though that didn't hurt its defensive EPA, it did hurt the perception of the defense when the team allowed additional points. All told, Oklahoma State gave up 105 points off turnovers in 2012, which is a number that figures to improve simply from entering this season with more experience at quarterback.

Another way of saying it: The Cowboys were even in turnover margin last year, and just getting back into plus territory this year would seem likely to improve the team in both conventional and advanced defensive statistics. If seven returning starters can also cut down on their yards allowed, the defense should be noticeably better in 2013.



Fresno State Bulldogs
When I began this exercise, I wasn't expecting to see a non-AQ team on the list, especially a team that garnered little to no attention from poll voters last season. But when a team doesn't play in one of the big conferences and still ranked higher in adjusted defensive EPA (20th) than it did in yards allowed per game (22nd), that makes an impression.

Knowing that the Bulldogs must have had the raw numbers of a top-10 defense before the opponent adjustment, I looked for the reason why and quickly found it: They excelled in the same areas as Oregon, making momentum-swinging plays by sacking the quarterback and forcing turnovers. The Fresno defense set up its offense so well that it not only led the nation in points off turnovers last season (217) but did so by a wide margin (Oregon ranked second with 188).

If not for a seemingly uninspired effort in the bowl game, the Bulldogs would have had even better numbers. Having a bad taste in their mouths from that performance over the offseason is one reason why I like the Bulldogs' chances to show more defensive improvement in 2013.

Here are three more: (1) Although safety Phillip Thomas is a big loss, the Bulldogs bring back most of their defensive playmakers from a year ago; (2) coach Tim DeRuyter has a track record of success as a defensive coach, and his defenses have ranked in the upper third of the FBS for the past five years; and (3) The schedule gets much easier from a defensive standpoint, as Fresno State trades Oregon and Tulsa in 2012 for Rutgers and Idaho in 2013 on the nonconference slate.

Fresno State has a chance to be a top-10 defense by conventional standards, and if it can continue to set up its offense by making big plays, this unit also could be a fixture in advanced metrics.



USC Trojans
There's no question that last season was disappointing for the Trojans in just about every way possible, but their on-field performance -- at least, by the numbers -- wasn't as bad as six losses would suggest.

On defense, they were the definition of average by conventional standards, ranking 60th in yards allowed per game (out of 120 teams). But the Trojans did that against a schedule that included several good offensive teams, which contributed to them having an adjusted defensive EPA ranking of 36th.

Coordinator Monte Kiffin achieved guru status for his ability to scheme against NFL offenses, but the variety of spread attacks in college seemed to give him trouble during his three seasons at USC. He was by no means the only coordinator to be embarrassed by Oregon, but allowing 730 yards and 62 points to the Ducks -- the best adjusted offensive EPA performance in an FBS game last season -- didn't do him or his defense's stats any favors.

The fact that USC still had a top-40 defensive EPA with that game included says that the Trojans did some things right on that side of the ball. And their performance down the stretch was greatly improved, even though it wasn't dominant outside of the Arizona State game.

With seven returning starters and new coordinator Clancy Pendergast making a move to a 3-4 alignment, there is reason for optimism. Leonard Williams, who was a star as a true freshman last season, has a chance to shine as a defensive end in this scheme.

USC still has plenty of talent beyond Williams, and with Pendergast having coached successful defenses at Cal in 2010 and 2011, there's no reason to believe that he will seem out of place in the Pac-12 the way his predecessor sometimes did. This convergence of players and coach has a chance to pay immediate dividends for the Trojans.



Baylor Bears
This may seem like a bit of a stretch, but bear with me. (No pun intended.)

Let's establish right away that Baylor was not a good defense in 2012 (119th in yards allowed per game) and hasn't been for some time. But having a hurry-up offense of their own and playing against so many potent attacks in the Big 12, the Bears have never been as bad on defense as conventional stats might suggest. Their adjusted defensive EPA ranking of 76th from a year ago still doesn't seem to say much, but I think a light came on at the end of last season.

As a team, Baylor caught fire down the stretch and won three games against ranked teams. The offense was firing on all cylinders during that run, but the defense also put together its three best single-game adjusted defensive EPA performances of the season in those victories (over UCLA, Kansas State and Oklahoma State).

The big difference for Baylor was getting sacks and forcing turnovers at a high rate. The Bears' offense doesn't typically require much assistance, but when the defense started making plays, the whole team transformed into what looked like a legitimate top-20 squad.

I could be wrong, but I think Baylor gained confidence and learned something about its defense from those games. Being aggressive isn't all that risky when your basic defensive efforts are regularly failing, and failure happens quite frequently for defenses in the Big 12.

With the core of the defense returning in 2013, look for the Bears to take chances in applying more pressure at the line of scrimmage. If they do so with moderate success, expect a fairly significant improvement in the defensive numbers. It might not be a breakthrough by conventional standards, but if Baylor can become an average defense this season, that could be enough to make the team a conference title contender and create the opportunity for an even more important type of breakthrough.

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4. "http://tinyurl.com/lv3okx5"
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http://tinyurl.com/lv3okx5
I read it this morning elsewhere...

People are slowly coming around to the fact that we've gotten a lot more stout up front, on both sides of the ball. Not always the 4*/5* types for each cycle, but we've recruited body types. We're the tallest team in the Pac 12, and these kids are lean and fast right now. On the DL watch for Sophs Arik Armstead and DeForest Buckner, who played last year as true freshmen. Heimuli, Kelikipi, and Hart will be the actual veterans and make us nasty in the interior. Excited to see what JC transfer Stetzon Bair can do with his RS year completed. His brother Brandon became a real beast for us earlier in CK's tenure.

  

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27. "dat Fresno D should be a joy to watch again."
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it was sick last year, coach DeRuyter said that his teams usually do a lot better in the 2nd year of his system. Hell, he had the Air Force Academy defense ranked #10 at one point.

  

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>- Carlos Hyde..not guilty. Case closed. Back to business.

it'll be about appeasing the media. not necessarily about what's right or fair.

  

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7. "it's 3 games"
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cause now everyone will hate us less!!

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8. "Why is he suspended for any games at all? Did I miss "
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something? And have there been any charges filed against the false accuser?

  

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9. "RE: Why is he suspended for any games at all? Did I miss "
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>And have there been any charges filed against the
>false accuser?

unfortunately, no.

the statement from OSU:

“Carlos Hyde will be suspended for at least the first three games of the 2013 season for conduct not representative of this football program or this university. He will be required to fulfill additional obligations before he is allowed to play in a game.”

here's the video of the incident if you haven't seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpW1Hw5LYww

the sad part is that had there not been video of the event then it would have become a he said she said deal with hyde surely on the losing end of it.

  

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14. "LMAO @ the buttslap at 3:05..."
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10. "2 games I would have been pissed but whatever...3 games though?"
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a quarter of the fucking season?

smh.

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11. "it's actually AT LEAST 3 games"
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so i guess that leaves open the possibility to add on for whatever reason.

it wouldn't shock me if someone runs away with the starting job and he never gets it back.

i guess on the bright side u get a fresh and healthy hyde heading into conf play/midseason ready to take on whatever role is necessary

  

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12. "there's got to be something else he did, right?"
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like unrelated to this "incident" ?

  

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13. "no. from all accounts he's been a fine citizen."
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this is pandering to the media and cfb world, plain and simple.

OSU is like that shithead in high school who tried sooooooo hard to get everyone to like him/her...but no matter how hard they tried everyone hated their ass regardless.

and this way, if carlos hyde becomes a serial murderer 5 years from now then Urban/OSU can say 'see it's not our fault we suspended the kid for 4 games!'

  

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19. "at Cal is the only possible trouble spot"
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I can't see it lasting beyond the Rattler game under any circumstance

Losing Roby would be a much bigger deal to me

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6. "Sark is just wonderful"
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Dismissed a former blue chip DE today for violating team rules.



4 MORE YEARS! 4 MORE YEARS! 4 MORE YEARS!

  

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29. "There must have been a 911 call documenting his crime"
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>Dismissed a former blue chip DE today for violating team
>rules.
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>
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>4 MORE YEARS! 4 MORE YEARS! 4 MORE YEARS!

  

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15. "Buckeyes... get ya boy.."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEiTj-19gZY&nomobile=1
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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html

  

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16. "HE sittin on a beach towel?? "
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The lack of sleeves

The music

The hair

I cant

http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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17. "dude sounds like Toby from The Office lol"
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18. "15 min? I'm gonna need a synopsis"
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20. "The Bottom 5 Head coaches in CFB"
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Interesting stuff, the only one I disagree with is Kevin Wilson, IU is a hideously awful football school much like Kentucky of the SEC because they care about basketball instead....his offense and recruiting at IU have trended upward, still needs work on the defense

http://cfbmatrix.com/worst-5-coach-effect-head-coaches-2013/


Lane Kiffin – Stewart Mandel has him in the bottom 5 and I have zero complaint with that other than he should be the #1 of the bottom 5. Lane has under performed his talent at EVERY job he has held as head coach. Not one single year as a positive head coach game effect. Over the last 3 years he has the worst game effect per season of any coach.

Randy Edsall – ‘Dead man walking’ is the term to define a head coach that posts a -4 game effect or worse in his first year as a head coach in FBS football. All coaches that have done this have NEVER seen a 4th season. Randy has gone -4 and -3 in this first two season. Attrition rates are the worst of any AQ head coach in the last 4 years and recruiting at Maryland is still well below their average.

Charlie Weis – This is more like a career ranking versus at Kansas rank. He was awful at Notre Dame (that is why I named the CBFMatrix anti-COY awards after him), he drug down a Gator program as an assistant and unbelievably had almost a bad of a year as could be posted in 2012. Even when he is canned by KU, he is still one of the worst head coaches in the Matrix of all time. Also in Stew’s bottom 5.

Mack Brown - How Mack didn’t make the bottom 5, I may never know. But I do know this. No other coach has had a better ratio of lack of attrition and recruited talent the last 7 years than Mack and his staff. And in that period, he has the single worst record of any top 10 recruiter. His 7 year coach effect profile is so poor, that he has no peers as they have all been fired over the last 5 season.

Kevin Wilson - Another dead man walking. While the Hoosiers improved in year 2, Wilson is still treading water. Recruiting has and will remain near the bottom of the Big Ten. The home loses, the OOC non-AQ team loses the list in 2 seasons is a shopping list of what not to do to keep your job as a head coach.

Honorable 1st year mentions – I don’t like putting guys on a bottom 5 list that have one year under their belt. The same as putting one hit wonders in the top ten like Sumlin.

Larry Fedora - Dead man walking. Handed a gift from the scheduling gods in 2012, all he did was go -4 game coach effect. just like he did at Southern Miss. UNC deserves better. He still has at least 3 years left to make something of this terrible effort in 2012.

Tim Beckman – The Illinois head coach is in Stewart’s bottom 5 as well. I get it. He had a ton of opportunity in his first season like Wilson in 2011. He failed just as bad, if not worse for the Illini talent levels. Dead man walking as well.

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21. "He did nail the Top 3"
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Pure garbage no matter what angle you take

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22. "first 4 imo"
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26. "Mack Brown... the rapture in Longhorn nation when Muschamp went to FL"
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is all the evidence you need.

  

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39. "Larry Fedora on there is stupid."
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He's going to be good at UNC. He just needs a little time.

  

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23. "Ranking the nations top 10 QB battles"
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http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/travis-haney/post?id=211

Looking for a reason to keep tabs on college football's quarterback battles this August? How about the fact that a year ago Texas A&M’s Johnny Manziel and UCLA’s Brett Hundley, among others, had not yet won their respective jobs?

There are several key starting decisions still to be made, and some of the winners will have the opportunity to step in and be impact players right from the beginning. Here's our ranking of the top 10 battles heading into camp.




1. USC Trojans

Every quarterback with an ounce of interest in playing college football prays, I’m sure, for just the right set of circumstances for his debut. Beautiful weather, good players around him, and a beatable opponent with a susceptible secondary.

Well, at least USC’s Max Wittek had one of those. Sort of.

Wittek was thrown into action after four-year starter Matt Barkley’s shoulder knocked him from the UCLA game, an eventual loss. The next week, with Barkley sidelined, Wittek had to go against a Notre Dame defense that was in the top five most of the season. He mustered 186 passing yards on a pleasant November night, about 100 yards below the team’s season average.

And then after a month of bowl prep, a 30 mph wind greeted Wittek and the Trojans in El Paso for the Hyundai Sun Bowl. While Wittek tried to get the ball out to talented receivers such as Marqise Lee and Robert Woods, Georgia Tech threw the ball 10 times. Ten. It was a good time and place to be an option offense.

At the end of his abbreviated and rushed first experience, Wittek had averaged just 5.6 yards per attempt, and thrown five interceptions and three touchdowns. A physically and mentally bruised USC team -- just months earlier a favorite to play for the national title -- finished the season 7-6, ending it with three consecutive losses.

“It wasn’t exactly ideal for a quarterback,” Trojans coach Lane Kiffin told me last week. “None of it was ideal for Max. I thought he handled it all really well.”

What did all of that earn him? A leg up, maybe, in one of this summer’s most contentious and important quarterback races. But Wittek, the redshirt sophomore who was the 58th overall prospect in his class in ESPN RecruitingNation's rankings, will have to hold off redshirt sophomore Cody Kessler and freshman Max Browne.

Kessler’s steadiness this spring allowed him to emerge as a legitimate possibility, though Kiffin said that wasn’t a surprise because Kessler had been solid in previous scrimmage opportunities.

Browne, who enrolled in January, is an intriguing option, even if he will not necessarily be ready by the opener. If Wittek and Kessler falter, it doesn't sound as if Browne’s eventual emergence would be all that shocking.

“He prepares in such as unique way,” Kiffin said of Browne, the former Elite 11 participant and the 20th overall prospect in the ESPN 150 Class of 2013. “He asks for all this extra stuff, he wants more and more. For a kid just out of high school, he acts like a pro.”

Kiffin said he has given Browne every chance to win the job since he arrived.

“We aren’t limiting any position by age,” he said.

If the race isn’t settled by the end of August, the Trojans do open with Hawaii, Washington State, Boston College and Utah State. So perhaps we should be asking who the starter will be for the legitimate opener -- Sept. 28 at Arizona State.





2. Oklahoma State Cowboys

This battle was so fierce in 2012 that one participant, Wes Lunt, transferred to Illinois. That leaves redshirt sophomore J.W. Walsh and fifth-year senior Clint Chelf for the job in Mike Yurcich’s first season as offensive coordinator.

Yurcich has said he wants the offense to go even faster than his predecessors -- energy-drink-fueled assistants Dana Holgorsen and Todd Monken -- had it moving.

That does not necessarily separate either player. In reality, both might play.

Walsh has a bit more of a running element to him, and that plays well in the no-huddle. In limited attempts -- he threw 163 passes, completing 109 -- Walsh was fourth among FBS quarterbacks in terms of efficiency. Chelf has the veteran presence you would expect, and he was steady (14 touchdowns, five interceptions) when he took over in November.

The Cowboys, who played all three quarterbacks last season for a variety of reasons, still were third in the country in yards per play (7.01). So whether it’s Chelf or Walsh, the offense appears to be in capable hands.




3. Kansas State Wildcats


Junior college transfer Jake Waters made this a race with his play in the spring, destroying the presumption that Daniel Sams -- who as a freshman played at times in place of Collin Klein -- would waltz into the job.

Both could play, because Sams seems to be more of a runner (at least he was in game action last fall). But I was told last week by a Big 12 coach that the quarterbacks are actually quite similar, so the platoon could be moot.

To that end, Waters did run for 256 yards and six touchdowns as he led Iowa Western CC to the junior college national championship. They’re similar in stature, too. Sams is listed as 6-foot-2, 207 pounds; Waters is 6-1, 210.

In short, no wonder it’s a race, and one that might not be resolved even when the season begins. Coach Bill Snyder could wind up just going with the hotter hand week to week.

Here’s a boost for the player who emerges: The Wildcats’ entire offensive line is back. So is underrated running back John Hubert, who averaged 5.0 yards a carry and scored 15 times.




4. Oregon State Beavers

I met coach Mike Riley for the first time last week, and he was telling me what a difficult time it was last season when he had to choose between Sean Mannion and Cody Vaz on almost a weekly basis. If you will recall, Mannion suffered an injury. Vaz played well in his absence, and then it was a coin flip for the final half-dozen or so games.

“I just was honest with the team about it,” Riley said. “I told them we had two quarterbacks and we had to support both guys.”

Not much has changed. Riley said there has been little separation between the two, and whoever is more “consistent” -- however that can be measured, on and off the field -- will be the starter for the opener against Eastern Washington.

Checking the schedule, the Beavers easily could be 7-0 when they play Stanford on Oct. 26. So there is plenty of time for the Mannion-Vaz battle to decide itself. Chances are, both will play as the season progresses.




5. Auburn Tigers

The Tigers might have the most populated battle in the country, with newcomers Jeremy Johnson and Nick Marshall joining spring participants Kiehl Frazier and Jonathan Wallace to create a four-man race.

Gus Malzahn, back at Auburn as the head coach after serving as its offensive coordinator from 2009 to 2011, does not share much. All of the information coming out of Auburn -- even what Malzahn indicated to me in person last week -- is roughly the same, with buzz phrases “wide-open” and “the earlier the better” used to address the quarterback competition.

Malzahn said the quartet would be put in “accelerated-pace evaluation” once camp begins, with as many “game-like situations” as possible. So that is perhaps a little different than a camp with a second-, third- or fourth-year starter. It’s Quarterback Idol in the South.

Many are looking toward Marshall because as a junior college (Garden City, Kan.) transfer with athleticism, he appears to be the closest thing to Cam Newton. And with Malzahn's return, Tigers fans are interested in anything remotely linked to Newton and the don’t-wake-me-if-I’m-dreaming 2010 season.

Remember, though, that the coaches have not even seen Marshall or Johnson, so the decision might not be made until closer to the Aug. 31 opener against Washington State -- despite “the earlier the better” rhetoric.

By the way, Malzahn and Mike Leach coaching in the same game? Turn away, Nick Saban and Bret Bielema. Turn away.




6. California Golden Bears

It isn’t Auburn’s four, but coach Sonny Dykes does have a three-way contest as he begins his tenure in Berkeley.

“I wish I knew ,” Dykes said.

Later, he was able to narrow it to two -- maybe. He said last week that entering camp, freshmen Jared Goff and Zach Kline appear to be ahead of junior Austin Hinder. Then again, he said Hinder is a bit more mobile. So maybe it's still three.

Regardless, Dykes and Tony Franklin’s offense does not figure to change significantly. That means the quarterbacks should be ready to throw, throw, throw. Louisiana Tech, with Dykes and Franklin in control, was eighth in passing attempts per game (44.4) nationally and third in passing yards per game (350.8) in 2012.

Here’s one thing that surprised me, to some extent: When I asked one Pac-12 coach for a team I should watch out for this fall, he said Cal.

“ Tedford had recruited pretty well there,” he said of the former Cal coach, who had been fired in December. “ inherited more than most people think.”

I met with Dykes just after hearing that, and ran the comment by him.

“It was better than I expected,” he said of the talent level, including the quarterbacks. That helps, but the schedule is brutal. Cal sees Northwestern and Ohio State before beginning the Pac-12 season Sept. 28 against Oregon.




7. West Virginia Mountaineers

A two-man race between junior Paul Millard and redshirt freshman Ford Childress became even more crowded when Clint Trickett transferred in May from Florida State.

And one person close to the program said that Millard and Trickett, the two with at least some game experience, enter camp with the lead.

“I really like , but those other two are ahead,” he said.

Both, of course, will have to fill the void left by Geno Smith’s 11,000-plus career yards and 98 touchdowns. Top receivers Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey are gone, too, but the Mountaineers did secure transfers Charles Sims (from Houston) and Rushel Shell (from Pitt), though Shell will not be eligible for another year. There should be enough to mask whatever the team lost from the skill positions -- and at quarterback. From all I’ve heard, there will be a stark drop-off from Smith to Millard or Trickett.

“Geno was a first-round talent, regardless of where he went ,” one coach told me. “I don’t see first-round talent there anymore.”

Yes, the Mountaineers fell off after a crazy hot start, but Smith completed 71.2 percent of his passes, tossed 42 touchdowns and just six interceptions. A lot goes into it, granted, but it’s a wonder those numbers did not merit more of a Heisman look for Smith.




8. Oklahoma Sooners

Coach Bob Stoops all but bristled -- it’s kind of his thing during news conferences -- when someone suggested last week that this was Blake Bell’s job. He insists that Trevor Knight and to a lesser extent, Kendal Thompson, are still part of the discussion.

Bell and the Sooners belong in this conversation, though, because it marks a change at the position after what felt like a lifetime appointment for Landry Jones. Bell had made his mark as part of a specialized run package. But a quarterback who has more career rushing touchdowns (24) than passing attempts (20) will create some level of wariness.

Maybe that’s why Stoops is keeping the position open as camp begins. Those close to the program told me earlier in the year that Knight had wowed some observers late last season in practice and in the spring. They even called Knight “Johnny Football Lite,” though that might have been embellishment compared to Johnny Manziel’s Heisman season.

Still, it’s worth monitoring Bell and Knight as camp begins. Comparing Knight and Manziel is more logical than likening Bell to Tim Tebow. Bell has more passing ability, I’m told. Even if he doesn’t, there are worse things than being linked to one of the best college quarterbacks anyone can recall.




9. North Carolina State Wolfpack

First-year coach Dave Doeren wasn’t thrilled this spring, but that was before Arkansas transfer Brandon Mitchell enrolled.

“It’s competition we just didn’t have before,” Doeren said, adding that Mitchell is an experienced mobile quarterback and Pete Thomas is an experienced drop-back passer.

Doeren’s strength staff came from Arkansas, and that familiarity led it to recommend Mitchell to Doeren. Doeren, in addition, liked the fact that Mitchell had adeptly juggled playing quarterback -- where he backed up often-banged-up Tyler Wilson -- wide receiver, and hoops.

“We’ll see how he does,” he said. “On paper he learns really well ... He’s a high-football-aptitude guy. He gives us a blend of experience and age. Whoever wins the job now, we’ll know they will truly have earned it.”

Let’s be realistic, too. Whoever wins the job is a stopgap until Florida transfer Jacoby Brissett is eligible to play in 2014. Doeren can’t say enough positive things about Brissett, whom he has used as a resource when comparing the athletes he’s bringing in to the ones Brissett saw and practiced against at Florida.

This season, however, could be rough for the offense as it settles into a new system. Doeren said he inherited just six scholarship receivers and two scholarship running backs. He added three backs and six receivers in the 2013 class, and he said some inevitably will play.




10. Tennessee Volunteers

It sounds as if Justin Worley is fairly entrenched as the favorite, but the Volunteers are worth mentioning because freshman Josh Dobbs eventually could make this a race. I brought Dobbs up to a Tennessee staffer last week, and he said he believes Dobbs has as much desire to learn as any Vols quarterback since Peyton Manning.

Worley, a junior from Rock Hill, S.C. -- whom both Clemson and South Carolina passed on -- played some the past two years in Tyler Bray’s absence, but there is no visual or statistical evidence to demonstrate he will hold the job until his eligibility expires. Plus, Tennessee has a seven-week stretch that includes Oregon, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and Alabama. That would be difficult for any new full-time QB to survive without aid.

One SEC coach told me the Vols were going to struggle so much on offense that it could look at the idea of playing Dobbs two different ways. On one hand, why not? It would be good to go ahead and get him reps. On the other, it could be a shot to a young guy’s confidence if he gets beat up both on and off the field.

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24. "man fuck you espn"
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>And then after a month of bowl prep, a 30 mph wind greeted
>Wittek and the Trojans in El Paso for the Hyundai Sun Bowl.
>While Wittek tried to get the ball out to talented receivers
>such as Marqise Lee and Robert Woods, Georgia Tech threw the
>ball 10 times. Ten. It was a good time and place to be an
>option offense.

no respect

it was windy sure...but we had 2tds and 7.5 ypa

they had 2.9 ypa

  

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25. "USA Today preseason rankings came out yesterday"
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Notre Dame seems pretty low. But I guess this is the one time of year where the polls are actually ordered on how good the voters think the teams are (as opposed to merit).

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/polls?poll=3&week=-1

USA Today Ranking

Rank Team Record Pts Last Week
1. Alabama (58) 0-0 1545 --
2. Ohio St. (3) 0-0 1427 --
3. Oregon 0-0 1397 --
4. Stanford 0-0 1262 --
5. Georgia 0-0 1250 --
6. Texas A&M (1) 0-0 1215 --
7. South Carolina 0-0 1136 --
8. Clemson 0-0 1047 --
9. Louisville 0-0 1010 --
10. Florida 0-0 930 --
11. Notre Dame 0-0 872 --
12. Florida St. 0-0 844 --
13. LSU 0-0 797 --
14. Oklahoma St. 0-0 726 --
15. Texas 0-0 622 --
16. Oklahoma 0-0 620 --
17. Michigan 0-0 589 --
18. Nebraska 0-0 426 --
19. Boise St. 0-0 420 --
20. TCU 0-0 400 --
21. UCLA 0-0 202 --
22. Northwestern 0-0 186 --
23. Wisconsin 0-0 172 --
24. USC 0-0 165 --
25. Oregon St. 0-0 135 --

Others Receiving Votes:
Kansas St. 113, Miami (FL) 101, Michigan St. 89, Baylor 80, Virginia Tech 65, Fresno St. 62, Arizona St. 51, Mississippi 32, Vanderbilt 29, Utah St. 23, BYU 20, Northern Illinois 19, North Carolina 19, Tulsa 9, San Jose St. 8, Ohio 8, Arizona 5, Mississippi St. 3, Kent St. 3, Washington 3, Cincinnati 3, East Carolina 3, UCF 2, Toledo 1, Tennessee 1, Arkansas 1, Arkansas St. 1, Rutgers 1

  

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28. "theyd be higher if Golson didn't get expelled...nm"
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30. "So how many chances does Jeremy Hill get?"
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31. "Top 50 breakout players for 2013 "
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With camp just beginning and the countdown to the college football season now safely under one month, I've ranked my top 50 breakout candidates for 2013.

A quarterback primed to do huge things in the Big Ten checks in at No. 1, and others that follow include a potential Heisman contender at running back, the SEC’s best defensive player outside Jadeveon Clowney, a freshman who could make the contentious ACC first-team QB race even more crowded and several potential Biletnikoff candidates littered throughout.

What constitutes a breakout player? There's plenty of feel, but two big factors helped line up the group:

1. I tried to stay away from known names. Really, the only hard-and-fast rule I set was no 1,000-yard rushers or receivers and no 2,000-yard passers. But in every case, these are players with the potential to become stars this season. (And the order in which they appear reflects the level of impact each could have.)

2. There was a lot of input from coaches. This project comes on the heels of a two-week stretch in Bristol during which I met with 50 coaches from every power conference with the exception of the Big 12. I polled a good number of the coaches about players who could become household names this fall, and I drew on conversations I've had with other coaches throughout the offseason.

So, with all that, here you have it -- the top 50 breakout players for the 2013 college football season:



1. Devin Gardner, QB, Michigan Wolverines


When I spent a day in Ann Arbor in the spring, the first time I had really been around Michigan’s program in my 18 months on the job, it became obvious with one hearty slap on my back that head coach Brady Hoke is a gregarious, social animal. There is no mistaking his impact around a building that, all the construction noise aside, is buzzing with positive mojo for 2013 and beyond.

The trickle-down effect, that air of positivity, is obvious in meetings with both players and coaches, and none more so than with his starting quarterback, Gardner. If Hoke is the mayor of Wolverineland, Gardner is his lieutenant. He’s affable, comfortable and back to being a quarterback. Not just that, but the quarterback.

I asked those around him, and they agreed with me that Denard Robinson’s shadow might have been a difficult place in which to reside. In an effort to keep him from the second-fiddle feeling, and in an effort to use his athleticism, the coaching staff moved Gardner to receiver.

After Robinson injured his arm last fall, Gardner was finally given license to do what he felt was his true college calling. He responded by leading Michigan to three wins, throwing 11 touchdowns and completing 75 of his passes in five starts. He posted a 90.6 rating in ESPN's new QBR metric, the highest for any player with 150 or more action plays.

He now seems ready for more in his full-time role.

“I recruited him,” said one of the Big Ten coaches who played against Gardner late last year. “I know how good he can be. I would say I have been looking forward to him getting his chance, because he’s a really good kid, but they’re on the schedule again this year.”



2. Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin Badgers
All Gordon did last season as a redshirt freshman was average 10 yards a carry, running for 621 yards and three scores on just 62 attempts. Imagine if he got the ball more. That should happen in 2013.

“I haven’t timed him in the 40, but I don’t need to. I just know he’s fast,” first-year coach Gary Andersen said. “If he puts it together, he can be special.”

Andersen said Gordon immediately caught his attention in the spring. But what really stood out, Andersen said, was how Gordon handled himself when he tweaked his ankle. “He didn’t whine or complain,” Andersen said. “He just pushed through it and showed some real toughness. That shows you he’s got a shot.”

Gordon also worked some in the spring on receiving drills and how he might handle perimeter pitches if Andersen weaves some option looks into the Badgers’ gadgetry.

Senior James White, with 2,500 career yards, will certainly get his touches, but Wisconsin has always found ways to keep multiple backs involved. Andersen did not indicate that would change.



3. Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State Seminoles


If there is a Johnny Manziel-type, or at least a Marcus Mariota in this year’s bunch, Winston is the guy. It’s a big-time program. There is a lot of infrastructure around him, budding receivers and good experience at back and along the O-line. Then there’s Winston’s prodigious talent.

When I asked head coach Jimbo Fisher about Winston, it was obvious he wanted to pump the brakes on the hype. That’s understandable for a player yet to take a snap, but still ...

“He’s a player who has all the tools,” Fisher said, measuring his words. “He’s intelligent and instinctive. He learned and grew , and he’s getting ready and preparing now to play.”

I asked Fisher how Winston compares to E.J. Manuel, who in the end was liked more by NFL scouts than college coaches who told me they were never sure if he was a consistent, proven winner. “Well, E.J. was the 16th pick in the draft,” Fisher said. “I hope ends up that way.”



4. Marion Grice, RB, Arizona State Sun Devils


Of the 50 coaches I met with in Bristol, Todd Graham was as positive about his team and the individual players on it as any coach. Was it Kool-Aid, or should we really be aware of ASU football this fall?

I’m cautious, but it sounds as if betting on Grice seems like one of the spots that should guarantee returns. As Graham almost immediately pointed out, Grice, as a newcomer, scored a touchdown every 7.5 carries (19 total touchdowns in 144 touches) last season. So he was essentially De’Anthony Thomas without the Oregon spotlight.

Graham said Grice, the JC transfer who outran incumbent Cameron Marshall, could wind up a dark horse Heisman candidate. Big talk, right?

Except Grice will have enough big-game opportunities, that’s for certain. In addition to the Pac-12 schedule, the Sun Devils host Wisconsin and play Notre Dame at Jerry World. One last thought: Grice nearly went to A&M. Imagine that.



5. Jordan Jenkins, LB, Georgia Bulldogs


The Bulldogs only got USC transfer Jarvis Jones for two years, but they figure to get three seasons from Jenkins, an outside linebacker in the similar playmaking and pass-rushing mold as the All-American Jones.

This is Year 2. In Year 1, Jenkins was second on the team with five sacks in 14 games played (six starts).

Because of the influx of newcomers -- including Reggie Carter at middle linebacker and Tray Matthews at safety -- Jenkins becomes something of a leader on the defense, even as a sophomore. To some observers, Jenkins showed immediate maturity as a freshman. Defensive coordinator Todd Grantham can only hope for the same from his first-year guys in 2013.

“I happened to catch their Missouri game , and he really stood out to me,” one SEC assistant said, referring to the Week 2 win that included a pivotal Jenkins fumble recovery. “I guess he got even better from there. I know they like him.”



6. Nelson Agholor, WR, USC Trojans


One Pac-12 head coach told me he would have preferred Agholor leaving over Robert Woods, who ended his three-year USC career with a mere 252 catches, 2,930 yards and 32 touchdowns.

And that coach wasn’t even Oregon’s Mark Helfrich, whose team was burned by Agholor for six catches and 162 yards. Agholor caught just 19 passes as a freshman (340 yards, two scores) while occupying a lower rung on a loaded ladder of USC pass-catchers last season, but he’s already demonstrating that he is going to be a tough cover and a likely riser.

That’s a plus for the Trojans, since Agholor is likely to sometimes get lost in defenses’ obsession with slowing down Marqise Lee.

Like Lee, Agholor will also be a key figure in USC’s return game. Lee averaged 28.5 yards a kick return, but Agholor was just behind him at 24.2 per in limited tries. It’ll be interesting to see who wins the QB battle to throw to Lee and Agholor. Max Wittek played down the stretch last season, struggling some and opening the race to Cody Kessler and freshman Max Browne.

Receivers coach Tee Martin told me this summer that he doesn’t think his guys will see a dip post-Matt Barkley, regardless of who wins the job.



7. Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Missouri Tigers


Let’s try this again. I had Green-Beckham on my 2012 breakout candidates list, but he never really got going, and various injuries to the Missouri offense -- including one to quarterback James Franklin -- kept Green-Beckham’s impact light as the program took its lumps in SEC: Year 1.

Every team deals with injuries, but in fairness, they were particularly bad at Mizzou. Five of the top 10 offensive linemen went down at some point.

“If we had stayed healthy, it might have been a different year for a lot of guys, including Dorial,” coach Gary Pinkel told me. “For him, it’s going to come through maturity. He’s going to be a lot different player than he was a year ago.”

What hasn’t changed: Green-Beckham is still 6-foot-6, 220 pounds. He still physically compares to a young Calvin Johnson. And, yes, he is still young.

What has changed: Offensive coordinator David Yost wanted a change and left, ultimately landing at Washington State. Pinkel wound up promoting from within to replace him, so the head coach, without giving much away, said the offense will look a bit different, but not drastically. It will still be a spread, and DGB will still have plenty of opportunities.



8. Marcus Roberson, CB, Florida Gators


The secret that is gradually becoming known is the Gators’ staff thinks Roberson might actually be a better cover corner than highly touted (and potential two-way player) Loucheiz Purifoy.

“He can do it all,” head coach Will Muschamp told me, referring to Roberson. “He can play man, he can play zone. He has incredible ball skills. He plays the ball extremely well. And I’m proud of him as a person. He’s an all-academic guy. He’s improved himself his body in the weight room. He’s a complete guy.”

Roberson also figures into the return-game equation, along with Purifoy. With the corners blossoming, the Gators went from eight to 20 (first in the SEC) interceptions a year ago. Some of the front-seven pieces have moved on, but there is enough talent in place that the defensive production -- the Gators were fourth in the country in yards-per-play against -- should not drop off all that much.



9. DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville Cardinals


His 744 yards and 10 touchdowns in 2012 constituted as high as I wanted to go for this list in terms of production. But the ceiling still seems much higher as his team, and quarterback, continues to rise. It resonated, too, when Cardinals quarterback Teddy Bridgewater told me last week he thinks Parker is “the most underrated receiver in the country.”

“He’s a reliable target for me,” said Bridgewater, who is expected to be a Heisman favorite this fall. “I throw it, he goes and gets it.” Bridgewater also said Parker gave himself the nickname of Spiderman. I responded by saying I thought it was uncouth to nickname yourself.

“It works for him,” Bridgewater said, laughing. “He has those Spidey senses. He makes every kind of catch, diving, running, the highlight catches.”



10. Su’a Cravens, S, USC Trojans


Given the scholarship matters -- head coach Lane Kiffin told me the Trojans will go with 67 this fall, 18 below the limit -- newcomers will have to play. Kiffin said the team’s seven January enrollees all ran with the first team at some point during the spring. That group includes Cravens, a long and fast safety prospect. Kiffin said Cravens’ background as a high school running back is evident in his mobility and awareness in getting to the ball.

Cravens dealt with a knee injury in the spring, but Kiffin said he is 100 percent following minor surgery. Good thing. The Trojans don’t need that 67 sinking any lower.



11. Chris Black, WR, Alabama Crimson Tide


It was supposed to be the first-year tandem of Black and Amari Cooper making a difference in the Bama passing game last season. Cooper did his part, coming on strong to land at exactly 1,000 yards as a freshman. Black suffered a shoulder injury during camp and was held out for the Tide’s third title season in four years.

If anyone had forgotten about Black, a slick-moving 5-foot-11, 182-pound target from Jacksonville, Fla., he jogged memories with a 10-catch, 113-yard day in the spring game. Cooper added 108 yards and four TDs.

So that Black and Cooper thing could come to fruition this fall -- an unfortunate reality for the rest of the SEC and country. Their progression could help boost AJ McCarron’s Heisman candidacy -- though if they’re too good, they could begin to take votes and attention away from him. The same goes for sophomore back T.J. Yeldon.



12. Ronald Darby, CB, Florida State Seminoles


I knew of Darby, the ACC’s Defensive Rookie of the Year in 2012, but I had heard that opposite corner P.J. Williams could be on the verge of a big year.

So I asked Fisher about his defensive backfield, and he said a few words about Williams, who he does like, but then began gushing about Darby. So while you're looking out for Williams, Fisher indicated that Darby has All-America potential. He showed that as a freshman by tying for the team lead with eight pass breakups.

“He’s the guy that makes our defense go back on that back end,” he said. “He’s big-time. We’ve got a bunch of young, talented guys on defense and he’s certainly one of them.”

Sophomore linemen Mario Edwards and Eddie Goldman are in that club, too.



13. Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina Tar Heels


It’s rare to hear a coach associate actual numbers with expectation, but second-year Heels coach Larry Fedora does not speak only in generalities when it comes to Ebron.

Ebron, already projected as a first-round pick by some analysts, had 40 catches for 625 yards and four touchdowns last season.

Two separate times this year, Fedora has told me he expects Ebron to wind up in the neighborhood of 60-70 catches and 10-12 touchdowns in 2013. That’s a lot to put on a guy. Then again, Fedora knows how much the Heels will be throwing this fall as well as how much they could lean on a 6-foot-4, 245-pound safety net.

With Gio Bernard gone, running back is another position of interest at UNC. Freshman Khris Francis and Ryan Switzer could make early impacts. Teammates were impressed this summer by both newcomers, especially with Switzer’s speed.



14-15. Trey Williams and Brandon Williams, RBs, Texas A&M Aggies


Reliable vet Ben Malena will likely start, but the Williamses will be the non-Johnny Football home run threats for the Aggies. Trey Williams averaged 5.8 yards a carry as a freshman, running for five touchdowns in just 65 carries. He also had 171 receiving yards, and could wedge himself into a crowded backfield as a first-year guy.

Brandon Williams might have done the same thing if he were eligible. The Oklahoma transfer was forced to sit out after he averaged 5.5 yards a carry for the Sooners in extremely limited duty. He’s the young player the coaching staff is really excited about, along with sophomore receiver Mike Evans. Evans, a physical specimen at 6-5 and 225 pounds, piled up 1,105 yards as a redshirt-freshman.

So there’s a lot more to A&M’s offense than just the Heisman winner. And if Manziel winds up sidelined, the running backs could certainly become the focus of the team. They could be to some extent even with Manziel, who obviously often becomes a second back himself.



16. Dontre Wilson, RB, Ohio State Buckeyes


“The Next Percy Harvin” is an ideal that has wafted around Urban Meyer’s programs since, you know, he had Percy Harvin at Florida. But in Wilson, the late Oregon flip, the Buckeyes could have some reasonable facsimile.

Wilson is listed as a running back, but he figures to be lined up all over the place. Sort of like Fisher was with Winston, Urban Meyer has tamped down some of the weight on the freshman, but teammates have been impressed so far with Wilson’s raw talent.

At Big Ten media days, quarterback Braxton Miller acted as if he had a literal running mate. He said Wilson will have an early impact.

The No. 55 prospect on the ESPN 150 also had interest from other high-octane offenses such as Baylor, Clemson, Oklahoma and Texas A&M. The belief for all was he could be a home run guy. He's now Meyer’s to use.



17. Anthony Johnson, DT, LSU Tigers


Coaches often tell me that finding big, agile, dependable D-tackles is the most difficult task in recruiting.

“There just aren’t as many of those guys walking the earth,” one told me last summer.

LSU never seems to have trouble finding them. One -- Bennie Logan served as the most recent example -- leaves and there’s another giant in the middle of the defensive front to take his place.

In this case, enter Johnson, a junior who has “slimmed down” from 330 to 305 pounds since enrolling. He runs a 4.7-second 40, by the way.

“He’s going to be a great one,” Les Miles said, with that familiar cadence, “another great one.”

The NFL seems aware. Johnson, listed at 6-foot-3 and 294 pounds, is already No. 22 on Todd McShay’s prospect rankings.



18. Arik Armstead, DT, Oregon Ducks


You never know what sort of answer you’re going to get when you ask an offensive head coach about a defensive player, but newly promoted Mark Helfrich’s eyes widened when I brought up Armstead, the 6-8, 280-pound sophomore defensive tackle.

As an offensive coordinator, he often had to scheme for Armstead in practice.

“He’s a guy who doesn’t have any idea how good he can be,” Helfrich said. “He’s so technically sound. The NFL will have guys fighting for him. They’ll want him as an offensive tackle. They’ll want him as a defensive tackle.”

Dion Jordan showed that, in this recent wave of offensive prowess, Oregon can also produce pro-ready defensive talent.



19-20. Noah Spence and Adolphus Washington, DEs, Ohio State Buckeyes


Spence and Washington were the hot-ticket freshman recruits a year ago, waiting their turn behind veteran linemen John Simon and Nathan Williams. Both did get on the field, playing in a combined 21 games. Washington even logged three sacks (of nine tackles).

But with Simon and other leaders gone, it is time for Spence and Washington to grow up and emerge in earnest. Spence was No. 4 on the ESPN 150, Washington was No. 65, so they're not lacking pedigree.

“We believe our front seven will still be something that’s a strength, but it’s going to take work,” Meyer told me in the spring. “It isn’t just going to happen.”



21. Aaron Lynch, DE, South Florida Bulls


It didn’t work out for Lynch at Notre Dame, leading many to believe he was some sort of malcontent. But getting back closer to home -- Lynch is from Cape Coral, Fla., which is south of Tampa -- has evidently had a calming effect on the once hotly pursued recruit.

One AAC coach said he has heard buzz about a matured version of Lynch, which did not make him happy. He said he was somewhat familiar with Lynch’s freshman year with the Irish (5.5 sacks), and he was generally complimentary of Willie Taggart’s potential for player development.

“He sounds like an all-conference type of guy to me,” the coach said of Lynch, who checks in at No. 28 on McShay’s NFL prospect rankings.



22. Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State Spartans


If Mark Dantonio says someone has promise on defense, I am inclined to believe him. He told me he saw something late in Waynes’ redshirt freshman season. He played particularly well in the bowl victory, a defensive struggle, showing that he was ready to play full time on the side opposite All-America candidate Darqueze Dennard.

Dantonio said Dennard’s presence logically means Waynes will have more playmaking chances as well as the skill set to perform.

“I’m not going to say he’s the fastest guy on the team, because I don’t want any of our guys mad at me, but he’s one of them,” Dantonio said. “He will make big plays. When this guy finally gets it, he’s going to be a phenomenal player.”



23. Quinshad Davis, WR, North Carolina Tar Heels


Davis had already enjoyed a nice freshman season until he hit a new gear in the final four games, catching 38 passes for 484 yards and 3 touchdowns in the final month. He had 16 catches for 178 yards in the Virginia win alone. He finished the season with three consecutive 100-yard games.

Fedora said Davis then carried that momentum into the offseason and spring. “He listens to everything you say,” Fedora said. “He’ll tell you he wants to be the best and then he’ll show you he wants to be the best.”

Davis grew up in Gaffney, S.C., which is about 90 minutes from Columbia. Think he would like to begin a breakout year with a breakout win against the top-10 Gamecocks?



24. Chaz Sutton, DE, South Carolina Gamecocks


Inherently, because of who is on the other end of the line, Sutton is going to have more chances. If he faces a double-team at any point, it could mean Clowney is not on the field.

Sutton has been in the end rotation, but with long, lean veteran Devin Taylor in front of him last season, he had to wait his turn to stand out. Now would be that turn.

That fits the narrative for a number of South Carolina’s first-time starters on defense: They’re not newcomers, they’ve been in the program for two or three years, but they’re now being asked to lead. When I talked to him last month, defensive coordinator Lorenzo "Whammy" Ward said Sutton and the others in that position seem to grasp the concept.

“They’re ready,” he said.



25. Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama Crimson Tide


Someone who knows the program well told me recently that Alabama believes Kelly can become the best center in the school’s history. Sorry, Barrett Jones and others.

In fact, when Jones was banged up throughout the prep for the BCS title game against Notre Dame, Kelly filled in admirably. If Jones’ injury kept him out, the coaches felt good about going with Kelly, the 6-5, 290-pound redshirt sophomore. The team likely would have managed.

It appears the “next-one-up” narrative will continue for the Tide, particularly when it comes to the offensive line. Kelly and the Kouandijos, Cyrus and Arie, are the next generation of future-pro talent blocking for McCarron, Yeldon and others.

Since Nick Saban’s arrival, Alabama has averaged 4.96 yards per carry (11th in FBS).



26. Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State Sun Devils


Graham might have been more excited about Strong than he was about Grice, and he was psyched about Grice.

“He will be a dynamic performer for us,” Graham said of Strong, a speedy 6-4, 205-pound junior college transfer. “He has three years of eligibility, but we’ll likely only have him for two. He will be that good.”

Strong was No. 17 on our ESPN Junior College 100. He had offers from Miami, Nebraska and a few others.

Strong could be the best target that junior Taylor Kelly has had, and that’s coming off a season in which Kelly completed 67 percent of his passes and threw 29 TDs.

“He’s the real deal,” Graham said of Kelly. “There’s a lot about our offense that I like.”



27. Luke Kaumatule, TE, Stanford Cardinal


As long as I’m employed to do this breakout list, I’ll always include a Stanford tight end. That is, as long as David Shaw -- or another Jim Harbaugh disciple -- is on The Farm, too.

The latest example, in the wake of Coby Fleener, Zach Ertz and Levine Toilolo, is the 6-7, 260-pound Kaumatule. The Hawaiian played in nine games as a freshman. He didn’t make a catch, but he did provide some big blocks and learned on the field from a Mackey Award finalist (Ertz).

“He has ability,” Shaw said. “He needs experience.”

I asked Shaw how they keep managing to get these freakishly gifted and well-proportioned tight ends. He grinned. “I guess we’ve got the reputation of developing them. One leads to another.”

Kaumatule was recruited as a defensive end, Shaw said. I told him I went to school with a DE-turned-TE: Jason Witten.



28. Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M Aggies


For those who saw Luke Joeckel go high in the draft, an associated thought was, “Man, Johnny Football is going to miss him.” I admittedly thought that at first, too. But A&M’s staff told me that part of Manziel’s adjustment might be overstated.

Likely 2014 first-rounder Jake Matthews slides from right to left tackle and Ogbuehi, a 6-5, 300-pound junior, goes from right guard to right tackle, where most believe he can hold his own.

“He might be better than the other two by the time he leaves,” one Ags coach told me in June.

Across the board, the indication I’ve been given is the offense should actually be better than it was a year ago, in terms of overall personnel. That’s a scary thought. Manziel just has to stay eligible through early January.



29. Quinton Dunbar, WR, Florida Gators


Muschamp has spent a large chunk of the year talking about the need for someone -- anyone -- to emerge among the receiver group. Let’s make no mistake about it, either: These were all hotly recruited prospects. They have some ability. It’s just a matter of extracting it.

Dunbar is the target who showed some promise down the stretch in 2012: 21 of his 36 catches came after mid-October. He caught five passes for 77 yards, season highs, in the Sugar Bowl against Louisville.

“Now that’s a guy I’m really excited about,” Muschamp told me. “He’s someone who really bought into the weight room and has shown signs that he wants to mature and help us.”

Purifoy, the corner, could also see time at receiver. But Muschamp wants to see if Dunbar, veterans such as Andre Debose and five incoming freshmen can keep Purifoy on defense.



30. Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss Rebels


The Chicago-area native was already likely one of the top game-ready prospects of the Rebels’ lauded 2013 haul, but Treadwell became even more important when junior Vince Sanders broke his collarbone over the weekend. Sanders will be out six weeks, opening the door for others, including Treadwell.

Of course, when dealing with freshmen, an open mind is required.

“You never know how they’re going to adjust to the SEC, to the grind of a season, of the schedule, of the routine,” said head coach Hugh Freeze. “The special ones can do it, but you have to wait until September to know how special they are.”

That line can be applied to the rest of the star-studded class, including end Robert Nkemdiche. Here’s a relative fact: The more blue-chippers you have, the better chance they have to immediately succeed.



31. Blake Bell, QB, Oklahoma Sooners


One coach recently told me what many presumed over the years: Landry Jones was overrated.

“He wasn’t a bad quarterback, but he’s Oklahoma’s all-time leading passer because he was there forever and ever,” he said.

On the flip side, perhaps Bell is currently being underrated. Part of that is probably because the job technically isn’t even his yet. Coach Bob Stoops insists that Trevor Knight is not out of it.

It would be a surprise, though, if Bell did not emerge. He has thrown just 20 passes and as part of the “Belldozer” package he has rushed for 24 touchdowns, so that automatically makes a lot of observers want to make a Tebow comparison. But OU’s coaches have contended for years that Bell can throw.

They also have said that they will not greatly alter the game plan, which is still tilted toward the pass. So we’ll know in time if Bell can throw. I suspect that he can enough to win games and be a top-five QB in a historically good league for QBs.



32. Daniel Sams or Jake Waters, QB, Kansas State Wildcats


I’m not about to guess which will play, since it seems as if very little separates them, but whichever guy wins the job is likely to put up numbers.

Beyond their own talent, which clearly got them to this point, the Wildcats might boast the most unsung supporting cast in football. The entire offensive line returns. Running back John Hubert, who averaged five yards a carry, is back. And the receivers, including returning starters Tyler Lockett and Tramaine Thompson, are mostly upperclassmen.

“Too many people are counting out Kansas State in the Big 12,” one coach outside the league told me.

Why doubt Bill “the Manhattan Magician” Snyder at this point? And yet it still seems to happen. The Wildcats could be contenders with Sams or Waters in the game.



33. Cody Latimer, WR, Indiana Hoosiers


Hoosiers coach Kevin Wilson is a talker. I like talkers. So when I met with him in Bristol, he spent a good amount of time -- at my request -- talking about Latimer.

At one point, Wilson rattled off a list of very solid former college receivers -- he asked that I not print the names, for the sake of those individuals -- and he said Latimer, a junior, would be better. Wilson said Latimer, a “big” 6-3 and 215 pounds, was one of those kids who grew up as a hoops player. He is only now realizing his potential in another sport in which he is supremely gifted.

“He still hasn’t flashed moments of being a great college player -- he’s been a good one, but not a great one -- but I don’t put many people in front of him,” Wilson said. “He should be really good. I’ll just say that.”



34. Marquez North, WR, Tennessee Volunteers


When I visited Butch Jones and his staff on signing day, he was beaming about North, his first big get. He thought at the time that North choosing the in-transition Volunteers over some of his other brand-name offers, Florida, Clemson, Georgia, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State and Oregon among them, could supply some momentum for UT with the 2014 class.

Boy, was he right. As of Sunday evening, Tennessee was second in our current class rankings. Jones has not coached a game in Knoxville, but he is 1-0 when it comes to offseasons.

Jones talked up North’s summer when I recently visited with him. “The kids have really spoken out about Marquez and the type of guy and player that he is,” Jones said.

With Justin Hunter and Cordarrelle Patterson now in NFL training camps, North sounds like someone ready to immediately help.



35. Frank Clark, DE, Michigan Wolverines


Greg Mattison stabilized a defensive unit that was a mess prior to the staff’s arrival, but developing a steady pass rush is still a hole in the team’s profile. Its 22 sacks a year ago ranked 76th in FBS and eighth in the Big Ten. Mattison told me in the spring that he is hopeful Clark, among others, will rectify that. He said he wants to see players develop to the point that blitzing isn’t the only way to get to a QB. He wants the four-man rush to often be enough.

Clark started four games a year ago and showed moments of what the staff hopes becomes the norm. A sack and fumble recovery against Ohio State stood out.

Behavioral issues have limited Clark’s upward trajectory, but Brady Hoke said he is confident Clark has left those behind with team goals in mind. In addition, a strong season could put Clark in position for the April draft.



36. Tyriq McCord, LB, Miami Hurricanes


The bad news for Miami in 2012 was that coaches were forced to play about a dozen freshmen on defense. It appeared that way at times, considering the Hurricanes gave up more than 6 yards per play. The positive, however, is that 21 of the Canes’ top 22 on defense are back -- and some will have made physical and mental improvements.

The first name Al Golden mentioned was McCord, who put on 20 pounds after his freshman season and is still athletic enough to play a sort of end-linebacker hybrid whenever Miami chooses to go with a 3-4 look.

“We’re going to improve defensively just because of how many young guys we played a year ago,” Golden said.



37. Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor Bears


I omitted Oakman from a top transfer post I did a couple of weeks ago, and Baylor’s SID office let me know about it. Tip of the cap, because Oakman did belong.

I don’t often use exclamation points in life, but he’s 270 pounds and stands a full 6-foot-9! That merits one. Oakman was a Penn State defector, so he has three seasons of eligibility left at Baylor. That means the coaching staff has seen for a year what Oakman can do; others will soon enough.

“The thing I love about Shawn is that he’s very passionate,” Bears defensive coordinator Phil Bennett told the Waco Tribune-Herald. “He’s violent and plays very physical.”

Oakman will rotate in with seniors Terrance Lloyd and Chris McAllister, giving BU a physical presence up front that has been missing even while the offense has been causing headaches in the Big 12.



38. Jamerson Love, CB, Mississippi State Bulldogs


Dan Mullen indicated that Love is symbolic of the Bulldogs roster this season.

“He certainly has the talent. He just lacks the experience,” Mullen said of the junior. “He’s been around the other guys who have been the guys. Now he’s the guy.

“They’ve played,” he said, referring to those rotational players now moving into starting roles. “Now they’re the ones that have to do it on a consistent basis.”

It’s a young team. Mullen said only six scholarship seniors figure to play regularly. For Love and other first-time starters, it’s a matter of how they’ll respond to stresses that inevitably arrive in SEC play.

“When things go well, great,” Mullen said, “but when there’s adversity, during a game or a drive or whenever, in the adversity of each success or defeat, how will these players respond?”



39. Ra’Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota Golden Gophers


Hageman was OK in 2012, logging 35 tackles (six of them were sacks) on the way to an honorable mention All-Big Ten nod. But coach Jerry Kill is anticipating a jump from Hageman in his redshirt senior season.

Did I mention Hageman is 6-6, 315 pounds and runs like a deer?

“I coached Brandon Jacobs at Northern Illinois,” Kill said, referring to the built-like-a-house running back who later played for the New York Giants. “He is like Brandon. There are some guys that just come along and you go, 'Humans just aren’t like this.'"



40. Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson Tigers


When I talked with him in the spring, Chad Morris seemed very, very sure that Sammy Watkins would rebound this season in a big way. But as evidenced by last season, there is plenty of room in his system for multiple skill players.

Bryant showed in his first two seasons that he could be a viable deep threat, averaging a jaw-dropping 28 yards per catch (19 receptions, 526 yards). It’s safe to say that Bryant, 6-5 and 200 pounds, can be a matchup problem.

Charone Peake is another Tigers receiver gaining experience. I’m told by those close to the program that Bryant is the one to watch, but we weren’t expecting Nuk Hopkins to outproduce Sammy Watkins in 2012, so Peake could also make a jump.

His own improvement plus all those threats make quarterback Tajh Boyd a really nice middle-tier Heisman candidate.



41. Mike Davis, RB, South Carolina Gamecocks


There are a number of viable candidates for the underrated Gamecocks offense. Steve Spurrier told me he thinks part-time QB Dylan Thompson has an NFL arm. Freshman Shaq Roland was a breakout inclusion last year, but he didn’t catch on right away. The staff really likes redshirt freshman center Cody Waldrop’s passion for the game on what very well might be Spurrier’s best O-line at South Carolina.

In the end, I’ll go with Davis -- because Spurrier said as much during his ESPN visit.

“He can play, now,” Spurrier said (read that in his voice).

Marcus Lattimore has been deified as a South Carolina back, and he is hands down among the top people I have ever covered, but let’s look at this statistically. He averaged 4.8 yards a carry. Davis ran only 52 times as a freshman, but he did average 5.3 yards a carry. Lattimore is one of the nicest, most genuine guys in all of sports, but let’s not act as if he cannot be replaced, because he was each of the past two seasons after he was injured.

Davis’ ability to stand out could be negated to some extent by the fact that he’ll split carries with Brandon Wilds and possibly Shon Carson. If a lead back shines, though, the staff will not hesitate to feed him on Lattimore-like levels.



42. Travis Feeney, LB, Washington Huskies


Future NFL talent Shaq Thompson gets a lot of the pub, and he was a part of my 2012 list, but coach Steve Sarkisian holds Feeney in similar regard. Feeney was an honorable mention all-conference performer as a redshirt freshman, but he could jump on the first or second teams in his second full year.

“Those are talented guys,” Sarkisian said of Thompson and Feeney. “They have extremely high football IQs. They’re the real keys to our defense.”

Sark reminded me, too, that both players had moved from safety to linebacker, so they were still learning a year ago. Neither even played linebacker in high school. Look for another jump as they get comfortable.



43. Riley Bullough, RB, Michigan State Spartans


The Bulloughs, if you don’t know, are the first family of MSU football. Grandfather Hank was a Spartan in 1952-54 and dad Shane followed in 1983-86. Max is a heart-and-soul senior linebacker.

And now there’s Riley, who was at linebacker until the coaching staff used him at scout team running back last year -- and liked him there so much that they eventually moved him permanently. Now the redshirt freshman is in the mix for the Spartans as they search for Le’Veon Bell’s replacement.

“I was impressed,” Dantonio said of his first thoughts while watching the youngest Bullough run. “I think our coaches were impressed. He catches well. He blocks well. He can play the position.”

Dantonio said he once saw T.J. Duckett go from linebacker to running back, and that worked. So why not try again?



44. Ethan Pocic, C, LSU Tigers


LSU saw an incredible 11 underclassmen leave early, so it might be a candidate for the most breakout players on one roster.

Miles cycled through a number of just the freshmen in our meeting in Bristol, including end Lewis Neal, safety Rickey Jefferson, corner Tre'Davious White and defensive tackle Christian LaCouture.

And Miles mentioned Pocic, too. He is intriguing because, even before camp, Miles had a sense that he would start on the offensive line as a freshman.

“That’s unheard of,” Miles said. That’s especially the case at LSU, where linemen are typically prevalent and most non-skill-position freshmen are destined to redshirt.

Offensive line stability was something of a recurring issue in 2012 for the Tigers. Even with more experience, someone talented enough to play immediately would be welcome.



45. C.J. Brown, QB, Maryland Terrapins


What? A Maryland quarterback on this list? Yes, a team that played its fifth QB -- a linebacker by trade -- in 2012 has a QB prospect to watch.

Brown, by no means, is new. He’s a fifth-year junior who hasn’t played since November 2011 because of injuries. Brown, who does have wheels and says he’s 100 percent after the ACL tear, had a nice experience as a counselor at the Manning Passing Academy and coach Randy Edsall liked what he saw in the spring.

“Each day you saw him getting more comfortable, more confident,” Edsall said of Brown, who only did 7-on-7 drills in the spring but is now a full go.

Edsall said he honestly believed the Terps, with Brown, could have won eight games a year ago. Do the math, and that means Edsall thinks his QB could be worth as many as four victories.

What will aid Brown’s candidacy is what is around him. Stefon Diggs, the receiver and return man, is the next Tavon Austin. He’d make me look good at QB. Just throw a quick screen and let him go.

“The sky’s the limit for him,” Edsall said of Diggs, who I would have included if he did not have 848 receiving yards and two special teams scores as a freshman. “He’s not satisfied. He’s just one of those special guys, special talents. There is an explosiveness and an ease with the way he does things.”



46. Christian Jones, WR, Northwestern Wildcats


I have never really understood when schools drop an injured high school player, if they once believed he was good enough to extend an offer. Northwestern’s Pat Fitzgerald agreed.

“It’s a win-win, isn’t it?” he said. “Either he bounces back and helps you, or he doesn’t and he gets a medical hardship. He gets an education and we get the scholarship back.”

Jones, a Houston product who tore an ACL his senior year in high school, saw schools such as Baylor and Stanford back off. Northwestern stuck with him, and Fitz is optimistic Jones will be in the bounce-back category.

“He’s a very special young man,” Fitzgerald said, complimenting the 6-3, 225-pound Jones – a “big, big target” at slot receiver for both his route running and willingness to block on the outside.

Jones led a group of four Wildcats with 300-plus yards, and Fitzgerald seemed to think he could maybe even double his 2012 output of 412 yards.



47. Tony Stevens, WR, Auburn Tigers


Stevens is 6-4, 190 pounds and can fly, the Auburn staff tells me. But Gus Malzahn, who is generally restrained, is not ready to anoint the freshman as a savior for the offense.

“He is a special talent,” Malzahn told me. “But like a lot of the other young guys, we’ll have to see how quick he can catch on.”

Stevens is far from the Tigers’ biggest concern; it’s who will throw to him. Auburn opened camp with a four-man QB race, and Malzahn indicated that little was separating the foursome that includes returnees Kiehl Frazier and Jonathan Wallace and newcomers Nick Marshall and Jeremy Johnson.

Tigers coaches told me Marshall, a juco transfer, received some rave reviews from the team’s 7-on-7 work, but that he would still have a lot to prove during camp. Marshall isn’t Cam Newton’s 6-6, 250-pound statuesque frame, but he’s no slouch at 6-2, 205 and the juco route certainly sounds familiar.



48. Caleb Azubike, DE, Vanderbilt Commodores


Coach James Franklin said the 6-4 Azubike, who enrolled at 235 pounds, is up to 270 for his sophomore season. Also this: Franklin said Azubike has 3 percent body fat.

“He’s an impressive guy,” Franklin said. “He’s got muscles I didn’t know existed, certainly none I’ve ever had.”

Even at the lighter weight, the hometown Nashville product was SEC-ready. Azubike set the freshman team record with four sacks and played more than any other first-year player on the roster. The player-development aspect of Vandy’s program could be as important as any other part while Franklin is there. The Commodores can remain competitive if there are weight-room examples such as Azubike, who was already productive in the first place.



49. Tyshon Dye, RB, Clemson Tigers


This is admittedly a reach because Dye is a freshman and Morris has said it will be a committee approach to replace Andre Ellington. But something struck me when Morris said he wanted a bigger back to complement and protect quarterback Tajh Boyd.

Even as a kid who just arrived on campus, Dye’s 6-1, 210-pound frame makes him a larger option among the choices to receive carries. Dye had one of those who’s who offer lists, too: Notre Dame, USC, Georgia, South Carolina, etc.

Maybe I’m wrong and Dye winds up being a 2014 breakout candidate, but there is room for someone in that Tigers backfield. Whether it’s Dye or starter “Hot” Rod McDowell or D.J. Howard, you know there will be plenty of opportunity in Morris’ tempo system.



50. Justin Thomas, QB, Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
Vad Lee figures to be the starter, but Paul Johnson might have to find a spot somewhere on the field for Thomas. The redshirt freshman, a state high school 100-meter champ, was once committed to play defensive back at Alabama.

In an option offense, Thomas sounds like a real threat.

“He’s as explosive a player I’ve seen since I’ve been at Tech,” redshirt senior lineman Will Jackson said at ACC media days. “That includes guys like C.J. Spiller.”
Does that mean Thomas will eventually be coming to a fantasy team near you?
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32. "I love how all these guys talk up Armstead..."
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while failing completely to mention his classmate, 6'7 now 285lb DeForest Buckner. A few big problems on that Oregon defensive line this year.

Also we recruited Kaumatule pretty seriously. I wanted him in that same class.

  

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34. "the buzz and early reports on this dude are something serious"
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the last time we had a frosh make this kind of statement in CAMP was Mo C.

and no snark-o but putting Dontre on the field with DAT in oregon could have been really, really filthy. fortuately, OSU spared the rest of the cfb world from such a proposition.




>16. Dontre Wilson, RB, Ohio State Buckeyes
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>“The Next Percy Harvin” is an ideal that has wafted around
>Urban Meyer’s programs since, you know, he had Percy Harvin at
>Florida. But in Wilson, the late Oregon flip, the Buckeyes
>could have some reasonable facsimile.
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>Wilson is listed as a running back, but he figures to be lined
>up all over the place. Sort of like Fisher was with Winston,
>Urban Meyer has tamped down some of the weight on the
>freshman, but teammates have been impressed so far with
>Wilson’s raw talent.
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>At Big Ten media days, quarterback Braxton Miller acted as if
>he had a literal running mate. He said Wilson will have an
>early impact.
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>The No. 55 prospect on the ESPN 150 also had interest from
>other high-octane offenses such as Baylor, Clemson, Oklahoma
>and Texas A&M. The belief for all was he could be a home run
>guy. He's now Meyer’s to use.
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35. "a college buddy of mine lives in Cedar Hill (near DeSoto)"
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and watched Dontre Wilson's team take a shit all over them...

dudes has been making LaMichael James comparisons for a while now

im geeked

you goin to the cal game right?

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36. "it's strange that he wasnt a 5 star"
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>you goin to the cal game right?

not sure. im trying to decide between cal and wisky. id like to do both but with them being 2 weeks apart im thinking i should just pick one or the other.

night game and nice weather for wisky should be off the hook. i expect the cal game to be pretty laid back.

  

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54. "LaMike wasn't even a 4, and the only reason DAT was a 5"
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was because he played every damn position, in LA, and had cult status for his youth exploits... again, in LA.

  

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33. "Make 5 predictions (bold or not) about teams OTHER than yours...."
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1. Devin Gardner will fail to impress as a QB in the sense that he wont wow anyone with his arm or athleticism, but he is a smart QB who will figure out his capabilities. The lolverines win the majority of their games this year behind Derrick Green & an opportunistic defense (provided Jake Ryan comes back 100 in October), and come into The Game with one loss (either to Nebraska or @ NW)


2. Mack Brown will somehow manage to put together a decent season and save his ass for one more season.

3. Oregon hangs 63+ (I doubt they go for a single FG) on the Vols in a statement game. Chip or no Chip, the show goes on.

4. Logan Thomas regresses and VT struggles to win 7 games behind another paltry offense (and another overrated D), and for the first time in his career...Beamer starts feelin it. (I think this is Bud Foster's last year in Blacksburg anyway)

5. Tommy Turnover Rees goes full fuck it mode, and costs Notre Dame a few games. Malik Zaire is the starting QB by the USC game, and delivers the final nail in Lane Kiffin's coffin.

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38. "I'll bet you whatever you want that Oregon does not put 70 on us"
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Sal Sunseri, after successfully burning our defense to the ground is gone. We were a top 25 defense before him, and have more talent on D this year than we've had in a while (which I know isn't saying a ton).

They might beat us handily, but they will not score 70.

  

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40. "would 50 points be a small victory?"
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I think the secondary is still scary, in a bad way. McNeill and Moore can't really run, any pass thrown directly at Coleman is like an optical illusion for him, Randolph is an unknown post-injury, while Jones and the rest of the dime package haven't played a single SEC snap.

Oregon puts a ton of pressure on the back seven, and there is a lot of potential for busts on our side.

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42. "40-50 would be a step in the right direction"
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Coleman is supposedly much improved and Randolph says he is 100%. Cam Sutton has reportedly been impressive. We won't have a "good" secondary, but we will be better. We weren't nearly as bad or slow as we showed last year. We were constantly confused and played slow.

  

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43. "I forgot Byron Moore was still playing college ball"
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He was briefly committed to UCLA, then flipped to USC, redshirted a year there, then JC down here, then... Tennessee? He's one of Coolidhe's kids too.

  

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47. "Yep, he'll be a senior. He's alright."
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He picked off five balls last year, but he's not a good tackler and not very fast. Honestly, his biggest asset to the team has been his recruiting. Several of our current commits have cited him as a reason why they committed.

  

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49. "lmao"
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>any pass thrown directly at
>Coleman is like an optical illusion for him

  

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44. "if Helfrich is an asshole, I could absolutely see them putting up 60"
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50. "yea you have enough athletes to keep us under 70"
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:D

  

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41. "I'm rooting for Logan Thomas this year."
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45. "me too, he looks the part..hoping he can put it together."
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52. "i think Stanford is goin undefeated"
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(i also think that even undefeated they will be sweating out their fate on BCS day)

Clemson gonna Clemson (and by that i mean lose 2 of the 3 biggest games - FSU, GT, USCe - of their season in heartbreaking fashion leading to a bunch of what-ifs)

PSU's schedule will give them 8 easy wins, and they'll pluck a 9th out of OSU, UM, UW, NEB

Syracuse will have a better first year in the ACC than PITT

i think LSU is gonna have an off year. 4 losses or so, lead off with a bad one to U(sic)GA

  

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53. "we are coming to the farm for blood"
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and this time, we'll actually pass effectively.

  

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55. "REALLY looking forward to that game"
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56. "got a tough one against UGA to set the season off"
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>Clemson gonna Clemson (and by that i mean lose 2 of the 3
>biggest games - FSU, GT, USCe - of their season in
>heartbreaking fashion leading to a bunch of what-ifs)

  

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57. "i think thats gonna be a fun one"
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2 good qbs, a bunch of weapons

also gotta give props to uga for even scheduling a true road game, particularly at night in a stadium like that

  

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58. "LSU just schedule wisky...what's up with Stanford and OOC?"
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>also gotta give props to uga for even scheduling a true road
>game, particularly at night in a stadium like that

off the top of my head i cant recall them playing any real OOC competition towards the beginning of the season. I guess ND and that's it.

  

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37. "Explaining college football rule changes"
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Amen and pass the potato salad. August practice has started.

We all know that two-a-days are the time for teams to sort out the depth chart and start sculpting the playbook. But this is also the time when coaches are familiarizing their teams with the handful of new and tweaked pages of the NCAA college football rulebook.

“We aren’t just teaching the players the new rules,” North Carolina coach Larry Fedora admits. “We are also teaching ourselves about the new rules.”

When teams hold official scrimmages, they will do so with actual game officials on the field, most assigned by the conference office, just as is the case for regular-season games. Yes, the refs are there to answer questions about the new regulations. But they are also there for themselves, to log some real-time, on-field experience with those new rules before the time comes to throw actual flags in actual games.

So, what are the handful of new rules we all need to get caught up before games start later this month? Grab a notebook, a whistle, and read ahead.

1. Illegal Hits

This isn’t a rule change. This is a penalty change.

What constitutes an illegal hit in 2013 hasn’t changed since 2008. You can’t lead with the crown of the helmet, target a defenseless player (think about a quarterback sifting into defense and drifting across the field after an interception), lower your head just before impact, deliberately “launch” into a tackle, or lead with a forearm, fist, hand, or elbow. And it’s still a judgment call on the field as to what looks illegal. The two explanations of an illegal hit in the NCAA rulebook both end with the phrase “when in question, it is a foul.”

But now, if a player is flagged with an illegal hit penalty, he also will be ejected from the game. Before you panic, it must be noted that illegal hits are now reviewable in the replay booth, which is new. The personal foul penalty will stand regardless, but the booth can overrule the ejection and the player can return to the game.

By the way, I’d like to make a clarification here. At ACC media days, conference officiating coordinator Doug Rhoads caused a bit of a firestorm (not to mention three days of "SportsCenter" debate) when he said that he thought Jadeveon Clowney’s famous Outback Bowl hit might have been illegal. He made those comments while I was taking notes for this piece and that’s not exactly what he said. He admitted that he’d only seen the play when it happened on TV from his hotel room in Miami, and he said at first blush that it was so fast and violent that “I really thought the guys on the field would have called it illegal.”

But the discussion that Rhoads really was trying to start by talking about “The Hit” was that, under this year’s rules, he believed that had Clowney been ejected, the replay booth would have watched it and let Clowney return to the game.

2. No spiking inside 3 seconds

The illegal hit penalty is receiving the lion’s share of the offseason ink (and criticism). But if you ask most coaches and officials which rule change they think might cause the most confusion, this is the one that comes up.

In order for a quarterback to spike the ball to stop the clock, there must be 3 seconds remaining on the game clock. If he attempts to stop the clock inside 3 seconds, then the clock will run off and the quarter will be over.

“The idea here is uniformity,” Rhoads said. “Every stadium has a different clock operator in the tower. Some stadiums have clocks that count down using tenths of seconds, but others don’t. That can kind of cause a mess. So now this is like basketball. We know that once we get down so many tenths of a second, there’s no way a team will have time to make an inbounds pass, catch, and get a shot off. This is like that. If we get inside 3 seconds, you have to run a play.”

He referenced two 2012 games where there had to be a review, a clock reset, and fractions of seconds were added to allow one more play. “It was a mess, quite frankly,” Rhoads said. “Now everyone knows what the situation is and once they get used to it, it’ll be no big deal.”

True. But the first time it comes into play, it’ll be a stadium full of people saying, “Do what now?”

3. Crackback blocks

On the line of scrimmage, if an offensive player is more than 7 yards out, wide of the tackle box, he cannot come back toward the original position of the ball and make contact. In other words, outside players can’t come blowing back into the play and block below the waist. None of this is really new.

What is new is that a player can now come back and block, but only if the block is clearly to the front of the blocked player. As Rhoads described it, “10 o’clock to 2 o’clock.”

At the snap, immediately, you still can’t come back in and crackback block anywhere. But once that initial second has passed, you must keep it within the newly defined 10-to-2 parameters.

“It might be a stretch to even call this a rule change,” Rhoads said. “It’s really just semantics.”

4. Returning after losing your helmet

One of 2012’s new rules said that if a player’s helmet came off during a play, he had to sit out the next play. This year, a team can “buy your way in” (Rhoads’ words) via a timeout. This will make timeout economics even more critical than they already were. Let’s go back to Clowney. Say South Carolina is in the middle of a big third-quarter goal-line stand and Clowney loses his helmet. Does Steve Spurrier burn a timeout to get his star back into the game, or does he hang onto it for the fourth quarter?

5. Last-minute injuries

If a player suffers an injury during the final minute of the final half and the clock stops solely for that injury, then the opposing team can take a 10-second clock runoff. However, the team with the injury can buy its way out of that runoff by burning a timeout. The idea here is to further eliminate faking injuries to stop the clock. It’s up to the offended team as to whether they take that clock runoff. It can be refused at any time.
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46. "one of my favorite CFB gifs"
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48. "lol at them recording each other"
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51. "I love how DeAnthony lunged for the finish line"
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59. "derrick green is really really fat"
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looking forward to seeing his "#1 rb recruit in the nation" hype pan out, lol

  

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60. "season ending foot surgery for Amara Darboh - fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu"
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feel awful for the kid, hope he can come back

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