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FILF
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"Poll question: Who's the best young pitcher in the majors?"


  

          

Poll result (1 votes)
Michael Wacha (1 votes)Vote

  

  

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Jose Fernandez better
Oct 19th 2013
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RE: Jose Fernandez significantly better
Oct 19th 2013
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just saw he was on the same college champ team as Gausman
Oct 19th 2013
2
FLOCKA
Oct 19th 2013
4
Wacha Flocka Flame one good as pitcher...
Oct 19th 2013
14
Madison Bumgarner
Oct 19th 2013
5
Forgot to mention he was 21 YEARS OLD at the time
Oct 19th 2013
9
      and Wacha's 22, 3-0 with 1ER &22K's in 21 postseason innings so far...
Oct 19th 2013
10
           Like i said, i love the kid
Oct 19th 2013
11
                No.
Oct 19th 2013
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                Your baseball IQ is way higher than mine will ever be
Oct 19th 2013
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                     lol, the Cardinals crushed him in the postseason last year too
Oct 19th 2013
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                     No.
Oct 20th 2013
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                          Big dick metrics say otherwise
Oct 20th 2013
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                you are kicking all sorts of homoerotic nonsense
Oct 20th 2013
20
It's still Kershaw
Oct 19th 2013
6
unless he's facing Wacha and the Cardinals
Oct 19th 2013
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Lol
Oct 19th 2013
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3hunna (swipe)
Oct 19th 2013
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Chris Sale
Oct 19th 2013
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Call It Anything
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1. "Jose Fernandez better"
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3. "RE: Jose Fernandez significantly better"
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philpot
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2. "just saw he was on the same college champ team as Gausman"
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4. "FLOCKA"
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LegacyNS
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14. "Wacha Flocka Flame one good as pitcher..."
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Amritsar
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5. "Madison Bumgarner"
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Sat Oct-19-13 04:34 PM by Amritsar

  

          

Kid pitched 8 shut out innings in the 2010 Series ( fourth youngest ever to start and win a world series)


Love wacha, but Holla at us when he does that in a world series

  

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Amritsar
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9. "Forgot to mention he was 21 YEARS OLD at the time"
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Sat Oct-19-13 05:16 PM by Amritsar

  

          

8 SHUT OUT innings in the World Series ( where only big dicks 8 inches and above are allowed to pitch) .. At 21 yrs old


U ppl cant be fucking serious

  

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ThaTruth
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10. "and Wacha's 22, 3-0 with 1ER &22K's in 21 postseason innings so far..."
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is pretty impressive

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Amritsar
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11. "Like i said, i love the kid"
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But lets see what he does on the big dick stage before we start dropping our panties

Side note: Kershaw's standing as one of the top pitchers in baseball took a major hit yesterday. U have your whole org riding on your back in a pressure situation and u let that happn?


Thats the kinda mental fuckery that will mess with some pitchers for the rest of theit career

  

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13. "No."
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>Side note: Kershaw's standing as one of the top pitchers in
>baseball took a major hit yesterday.

He pitched his ass off this postseason until he didn't. Your team's GM, along with everyone else's, would kick their best player's dog in the dick for a chance at Kershaw.

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Amritsar
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15. "Your baseball IQ is way higher than mine will ever be"
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>>Side note: Kershaw's standing as one of the top pitchers in
>>baseball took a major hit yesterday.
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>He pitched his ass off this postseason until he didn't. Your
>team's GM, along with everyone else's, would kick their best
>player's dog in the dick for a chance at Kershaw.



What made a pitcher like kershaw falter in a big dick situation ( at a more mature age); meanwhile a cat like Bumgarner was out there in his hunting jacket pitching in the series as a 21 yr old?

Ill take the proven world series winner over the cat who cant handle the big moment

Crazy, i know

  

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ThaTruth
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16. "lol, the Cardinals crushed him in the postseason last year too"
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Walleye
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18. "No."
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Bumgarner was terrible in 2/3 of his post-season starts last year. The opposition you're creating doesn't actually exist.

This is the problem with picking a single moment and saying "now is the time that we will learn what you are made of" instead of looking at a full body of work and assuming that, sooner rather than later, great players will be great when it counts.

Kershaw threw 13 amazing innings in the NLDS. He pitched pretty well in the NLCS until he didn't too. The only huge, defining moments that Kershaw pitched in were created as a result of six months of Kershaw's prior awesomeness.

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LA2Philly
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19. "Big dick metrics say otherwise"
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Sun Oct-20-13 11:52 AM by LA2Philly

  

          

I, for one, am not comfortable with large sample size data trumping big dicks.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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20. "you are kicking all sorts of homoerotic nonsense"
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fall back with the homerism lol

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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6. "It's still Kershaw"
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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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7. "unless he's facing Wacha and the Cardinals"
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8. "Lol"
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12. "3hunna (swipe)"
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http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/story/_/id/9849972/clayton-kershaw-offered-deal-300m-range-los-angeles-dodgers-source-says

The Los Angeles Dodgers offered left-hander Clayton Kershaw essentially a lifetime contract in the range of $300 million -- "an A-Rod deal" -- earlier this season, according to a source with knowledge of its scope and structure.

The two sides were unable to finish negotiations, sources say, because Kershaw was initially uncertain about committing to a deal so encompassing, and about having contract talks during the season.

But the negotiations progressed enough that there is confidence among some with knowledge of the talks that a long-term deal -- perhaps more conservative in length than the massive contract initially proposed by the Dodgers -- will be concluded this winter, with a significant portion of money being devoted to a charity of Kershaw's choosing.

Alex Rodriguez's current contract with the New York Yankees is the largest in baseball, a 10-year, $275 million deal that could reach $305 million if he achieves all of its incentives.

Kershaw's potential contract is expected to be the largest ever for a pitcher.

Earlier this year, Felix Hernandez agreed to a seven-year, $175 million contract with the Mariners, and Justin Verlander agreed to an extension that results in the Detroit Tigers paying him $180 million for the 2013-19 seasons. CC Sabathia signed a seven-year, $161 million deal with the Yankees after the 2008 season.

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The aggressive effort to sign Kershaw, who could be eligible for free agency after the 2015 season, keeps with the style of Dodgers' ownership since a group headlined by Mark Walter, Stan Kasten and Magic Johnson purchased the team for a record $2 billion before the 2012 season.

The Dodgers nearly tripled their payroll in the span of a year, making the biggest trade in baseball history -- in dollars acquired -- in dealing for Adrian Gonzalez, Carl Crawford, Josh Beckett and Nick Punto in an August 2012 blockbuster with the Boston Red Sox.

Kershaw, 25, was selected with the seventh overall pick in the 2006 draft. He has established himself as arguably baseball's best pitcher, leading the National League in ERA the last three seasons.
In 184 games, he is 77-46, with a 2.60 ERA. He won the Cy Young Award in 2011, and is expected to win again for his work in the 2013 season, which ended with a Game 6 loss to the St. Louis Cardinals in the NL Championship Series on Friday night.

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But hell, what do I know?

  

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17. "Chris Sale"
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