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bwood
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"X-Men '97"


          

https://youtu.be/pv3Ss8o9gGQ?si=xBMuUEUxe0bq9Wl5

It's finally dropping!!! Hope it's good!

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Same mediocre animation and bad b-movie voice acting? Hard pass.
Feb 15th 2024
1
It really didn't age well lol. Tons of opportunities for improvement.
Feb 16th 2024
2
I was hoping they'd follow the What If design or SpiderVerse
Feb 16th 2024
3
The animation didn't age well, but the stories mostly did
Feb 16th 2024
4
      They told surprisingly mature stories. That part holds up.
Feb 18th 2024
9
           The stories holding up is a huge part of what drives the nostalgia
Feb 18th 2024
10
                I’m talking specifically about the aesthetic choices
Feb 19th 2024
11
Idk, I thought that looked sick
Feb 16th 2024
5
I'm with you
Feb 17th 2024
6
      the 90s show is great. idk what CT talking about
Feb 18th 2024
7
           It’s weird to say you don’t know what I’m talking about, but say w...
Feb 18th 2024
8
                it hasn't even premiered yet and you're already trashing it
Mar 14th 2024
13
                     Everything I’ve addressed is readily observable in the trailer and cli...
Mar 14th 2024
14
                          Cold Truth: Reviews of Future Past
Mar 15th 2024
15
                               Do you think the vocal and visual choices will change when the show drop...
Mar 15th 2024
17
                                    Geez bub, keep buzzing in my ear
Mar 16th 2024
18
                                         You replied to me. Anyhow, we both know the answer is “no”
Mar 17th 2024
19
                                              bzzzzz-bzzzz-bzzz-bzzz-bzzz
Mar 19th 2024
20
                                                   Yeah, that’s what I thought.
Mar 19th 2024
22
                                                        bzzzzzzz-bzzzzzzz-bzzz-bzzz-bzzz
Mar 19th 2024
23
                                                             You do realize you’re plugging ear ears and stomping your feet, right?...
Mar 19th 2024
24
                                                                  *Magneto helmet*
Mar 20th 2024
28
                                                                       It’s much, much more like a MAGA hat
Mar 20th 2024
29
                                                                            Make Arakko Great Again
Mar 23rd 2024
32
                                                                                 Nah. You’re definitely on the Donald Trump, red hat brand
Mar 23rd 2024
33
Iono about y'all but I'm here for it.
Feb 21st 2024
12
Gambit rocking a durag
Mar 15th 2024
16
I started rewatching the original in preperation for the
Mar 19th 2024
21
First two episodes are great.
Mar 20th 2024
25
Refresher course of the whole series
Mar 20th 2024
26
Good start
Mar 20th 2024
27
They been playing on Bishop’s head his whole life.
Mar 22nd 2024
30
the original was every bit as dramatic.
Mar 22nd 2024
31
Episode 3: Madeline, you ignorant slut
Mar 29th 2024
34
they speedran this plotline but they hit the highlights well
Mar 29th 2024
35
Episode 4: Mojo Oh No!
Apr 04th 2024
36
RE: Episode 4: Mojo Oh No!
Apr 05th 2024
37
I dunno, I think Mojo would feed of Trump news
Apr 05th 2024
38
this one was kinda weak but i loved the Mango Sentinel MVC reference
Apr 06th 2024
39
Ep. 5: Money, Cash, Hoes
Apr 11th 2024
40
INCREDIBLE EP!!!!!!!!!
Apr 11th 2024
41
that was fucking fantastic
Apr 12th 2024
42
EP. 6 - NEED SOME GET BACK!!!
Apr 18th 2024
43
RE: EP. 6 - Talkin’ bout the (Milky Way) ghetto
Apr 19th 2024
44
      Charles went straight Boogie Down Productions on them
Apr 19th 2024
45

Cold Truth
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1. "Same mediocre animation and bad b-movie voice acting? Hard pass."
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This will appeal to the people who populate hacky nostalgia social media pages where everyone felates the decade in which they were born.

This is a cheap fix for nostalgia junkies and it will probably do well because of it. But the OG didn’t age well at all IMO and getting more of the same is a disappointment.

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2. "It really didn't age well lol. Tons of opportunities for improvement."
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I think the things that it did effectively, that are enduring, can easily be carried over - the character design and the overall aesthetic (imo).

More polished animation and better voice acting - and maybe even taking advantage of some of the better X-stories that have been told in the last 30 years or so* - and this could be a worthwhile endeavor indeed.

* - Admittedly, I can think of maybe 10 that are legitimately really good lol. Still, that's a season worth of content!

  

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3. "I was hoping they'd follow the What If design or SpiderVerse"
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ah this will end up being something I just stream in the background while working

  

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4. "The animation didn't age well, but the stories mostly did"
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The exceptions being the filler episodes Fox Kids made them do. And the animation was a budget issue. This looks like an improvement on that front.

  

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9. "They told surprisingly mature stories. That part holds up. "
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>The exceptions being the filler episodes Fox Kids made them
>do. And the animation was a budget issue. This looks like an
>improvement on that front.

They improved, but minimally IMO. They didn’t make any real leaps forward.

It’s essentially an HD remake using the same general presentation. I could probably overlook the dated animation style if they didn’t go with the same bad voice acting style.

IMO the only reason it’s getting praise is the nostalgia factor.

If that series never existed and they put this out today, with those stylistic choices, it would receive a “wtf is this bullshit” reaction.

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10. "The stories holding up is a huge part of what drives the nostalgia"
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>IMO the only reason it’s getting praise is the nostalgia
>factor.

If we were talking about Power Rangers or Care Bears, I’d agree. But when people are nostalgic about this show they’re not just talking about how fun they thought it was when they were 6. They talk about the maturity of the stories, the compelling cast of characters, and the great character designs. That’s not just surface level stuff that a lot of nostalgia is.

  

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11. "I’m talking specifically about the aesthetic choices"
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You put out a high profile show like this today with these aesthetics and it would get savaged for it.

They could have continued the series with modern audio and visual aesthetics rather than simply spit shining the old one.

What we got isn’t very good and quality story telling will not override the poor aesthetic choices for me. It’s like great lyrical MC’s with terrible voices and odd delivery, over cliched beats. I don’t care how deep those bars are if it sounds like shit.

This is no different.

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5. "Idk, I thought that looked sick "
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Gambit charging Wolverine’s claws and Magneto’s appearance at the end of the trailer were both sweet af

  

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6. "I'm with you "
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Rewatching the show now. Outside of the dialogue (it's a kids show), this holds up. The storytelling is great, the characters are better than any of the fucking movies, and the action is dope

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7. "the 90s show is great. idk what CT talking about"
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im about halfway through the 3rd season on my rewatch. is it campy and corny at times? yeah but it's a 90s kids show. they all were.

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8. "It’s weird to say you don’t know what I’m talking about, but say w..."
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Not only do you know what I’m talking about, you even agree with me to a point.

>im about halfway through the 3rd season on my rewatch. is it
>campy and corny at times? yeah but it's a 90s kids show. they
>all were.

Yes, they were. They were great at the time- especially for a kid.

But it doesn’t hold up to anything but nostalgia.

As you said: It’s campy and corny. And rather than improve in that, they gave us a *slightly* better version of that same camp and corn. It looks, feels, and sounds dated.

Which is fine. People love nostalgia.

Obviously most people still love whatever it was they came up on and this will appeal to them. That doesn’t mean it’s above or beyond criticism.

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13. "it hasn't even premiered yet and you're already trashing it"
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>As you said: It’s campy and corny. And rather than improve
>in that, they gave us a *slightly* better version of that same
>camp and corn. It looks, feels, and sounds dated.
>
>Which is fine. People love nostalgia.
>
>Obviously most people still love whatever it was they came up
>on and this will appeal to them. That doesn’t mean it’s
>above or beyond criticism.

it hasn't premiered yet!

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14. "Everything I’ve addressed is readily observable in the trailer and cli..."
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I also watched the original series in real time, and recently went back to it.

I don’t need an entire ep of this one to see the animation style and hear the voice acting choices.

So what are you talking about exactly?

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15. "Cold Truth: Reviews of Future Past"
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>So what are you talking about exactly?

A person trashing a show that hasn't premiered yet.

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17. "Do you think the vocal and visual choices will change when the show drop..."
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>A person trashing a show that hasn't premiered yet.

Do you think the trailer featured vocal and visual choices that aren’t actually going to be used in the show?

It’s a simple yes or no question.

Trailers can be deceiving, but that’s typically with characters and scenes.

Perhaps it’s common practice, but I can’t recall any shows or movies where the voice acting and animation style is completely different from the one in a trailer that’s released a month before it drops.

So, do you expect them to have completely different voice acting and animation style than what they show in the trailer?

A simple yes or no will do.

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18. "Geez bub, keep buzzing in my ear"
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19. "You replied to me. Anyhow, we both know the answer is “no”"
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I love when people chime in all incredulous and suddenly shy away from the discussion once you show them they never had a point to begin with.

The voice acting and animation are right there in the trailer. Nobody needs 30 minutes of those same choice to know they don’t like them.

100% of the buzzing here came from you and your inability to accept that everyone isn’t as excited for this as you.

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20. "bzzzzz-bzzzz-bzzz-bzzz-bzzz"
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22. "Yeah, that’s what I thought. "
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it’s sad how hard it is for you to admit you were wrong even on trivial shit, and would rather turn a post about a show you seem to be excited for into this bullshit.

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23. "bzzzzzzz-bzzzzzzz-bzzz-bzzz-bzzz"
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24. "You do realize you’re plugging ear ears and stomping your feet, right?..."
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That’s the literal equivalent of what you’re doing

Rather than admit you didn’t really have a valid point or just move along, you’re doing this.

I’m perfectly fine with replying while you have your weird little tantrum over badly outdated voice acting and animation.

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28. "*Magneto helmet*"
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29. "It’s much, much more like a MAGA hat"
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32. "Make Arakko Great Again"
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33. "Nah. You’re definitely on the Donald Trump, red hat brand"
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Like them, you ran in with your chest out, loud and wrong as fuck, and the second someone showed you exactly how and why, you turned into a child, holding your ears and all.

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Looks good to me. This iteration of X-men was second only to Batman TAS in terms of quality for me.

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16. "Gambit rocking a durag"
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Remy got some Creole mixed in that Cajun heritage - LOL

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21. "I started rewatching the original in preperation for the"
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first time since it originally aired.

And yea the animation and acting has aged, but It still had pretty intense action and storylines for a "kids" cartoon from the 90s

looking forward to the new eps, from the trailer the animation is updated and improved from the original show.

Also like the "97" concept where it's picking up right where the last season ended

I'm just waiting to hear that "Previously on X-Men..."

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25. "First two episodes are great."
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Gonna wait on the rest of the season to air as I rather binge this than watch weekly.

With that said, I don't need live-action X-Men in the MCU. This scratches that itch. If it's good, cool. If not, I'll have this show.

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26. "Refresher course of the whole series"
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https://youtu.be/QiIYSipWf4s?si=466V9eQH7Mkm418b

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27. "Good start"
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I can't remember if the original was so dramatic, but I was a middle school/high school kid then, so I probably didn't notice the action. I appreciate they are going with some major comic storylines, and I agree with Bwood; if they can make animated content as good as this show and be consistent, then we don't need live-action X-Men.


Also glad they got rid of Bishop's mullet and gave him a taper

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30. "They been playing on Bishop’s head his whole life."
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This cut is about the best look besides him being completely bald.

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31. "the original was every bit as dramatic. "
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i've been rewatching it over the last year and they absolutely nailed it. Magneto taking them folks for a ride sealed it for me this is going to be excellent.

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34. "Episode 3: Madeline, you ignorant slut"
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Points to not take too seriously:

-Were all of these storylines blended together in the comics? It feels like they’re rushing.
-I see they’re going to use Morph as the fan service machine. I was watching at work and really thought they quietly brought Magik on a mission.

When D-plus content is this good, I want to consume it all at once instead of waiting weekly.

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35. "they speedran this plotline but they hit the highlights well"
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in the old show this probably would've been 2 or 3 episodes but now people would cry about how slow the pacing is

also Goblin Queen was absolutely smoking!

her look and fight scene actually reminded me of the Castlevania Netflix show

so far im very pleased by this. i could honestly do w/o Xmen movies if they just keep running this for a few seasons. I have always thought whenever they get to Xmen that should be D+/Hulu's attempt at a Game of Thrones level prestige show. Xmen needs to be long form.

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36. "Episode 4: Mojo Oh No!"
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It is a mid-episode, to be honest. I had fun with the traveling through the video games, but overall, it was meh.

I do have to say I enjoy how quickly-paced the episodes are; it makes it more enjoyable to watch.

Oro and Forge's story was meh, too, but it looks like it's leading up to possibly Vampire Storm?, Which should be fun.

This made me think of the old PrepTimePosse Blogspot page When I wrote a shameful two-part article on Storm's love life (I was only 25 then, so please forgive me!) and chuckle a bit.

The show is still fun, and I'll keep watching until it's finished.

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37. "RE: Episode 4: Mojo Oh No!"
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If Trump fed off of (caring about) ratings like Mojo, I don’t think he would’ve gotten through the whole 4 years.

Roberto being a puss-puss about using his powers is pissing me off.

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38. "I dunno, I think Mojo would feed of Trump news "
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Roberto need to stop fucking around and become Sunspot.

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39. "this one was kinda weak but i loved the Mango Sentinel MVC reference"
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40. "Ep. 5: Money, Cash, Hoes"
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Shit wasn’t the same after they came through and crushed the buildings.

Do they get to mention Cassandra Nova or attribute the attack to someone else?

This episode might’ve ruined my life as a child. I read the comic run much later in life where I wasn’t affected so much, but this would’ve fucked my Saturday to pieces.

Did they get completely caught off guard or was there a hypnotic element to the music?

Was Jean/Maddie’s psychic shock due to massive loss of life, or something unrelated?

Beast was about to laugh that reporter out of them drawls, but he normally fumbles that shit because he’s insecure about his pheromone powers and second guesses shit like that.

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41. "INCREDIBLE EP!!!!!!!!!"
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I was enjoying the show but Im really all in now. This all around was just next level. It felt like a season finale. And the creator said this ep was just a warm-up, and that eps 8-10 are the REAL events. HOW SWAY!?!?! I cant wait.

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42. "that was fucking fantastic"
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43. "EP. 6 - NEED SOME GET BACK!!!"
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As epic as episode 5 in a different way.

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44. "RE: EP. 6 - Talkin’ bout the (Milky Way) ghetto"
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“Can we go to where I’m from after the wedding?”
“Ew, no.”

Nice cameo from the forgotten Summers brother.

Deathbird beat the shit out of a character that Captain Marvel and the Guardians took hella long to beat.

I love that they know we know the visual vocabulary of Dr. Strange’s magic for Forge to use it with little explanation needed.

“Inferior freak fluid”?! Watch your tone, skank.

Ororo regaining her power was kinda sexy.

Sinister instead of Cassandra Nova is a smidge of a letdown.

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45. "Charles went straight Boogie Down Productions on them"
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And since Deathbird showed up, maybe Bishop pops up again.

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