Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86917 posts
Sat Dec-02-23 02:47 AM
3. "Fury Road had a lot of CGI-- it was just *good* CGI." In response to Reply # 1 Sat Dec-02-23 02:53 AM by Frank Longo
Like, there are full digital character doubles, CGI vehicles, obviously CGI sets-- like, there are almost certainly more shots with CGI than without. It's just that there's also a lot of insane practical stuff in there too, so it's hard to tell what's what when you're caught up in the madness. Which is how CGI should be. If you're noticing the CGI, you're not making your movie correctly.
And sure, some of the CGI in this trailer looked a little too smooth, a little unfinished-- I strongly suspect the FX in this trailer are not done. George Miller has yet to release a movie in his entire career that doesn't look fantastic. I'm not worried at all.
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5. "Right - it (WELL) ACTUALLY had CGI in nearly every shot" In response to Reply # 3
Both the baseline practical stunt work and magical editing job fueled the other narrative, but Fury Road truthfully hovered at or slightly below 10% fully practical photography.
The crude nuance being that they drove so many cars, jumped around on so many rigs and lit so many fires that it's pretty uncool to point out that movie would've been a litigation bonanza if it weren't mostly a mirage. And even more cool that they made the core shots so convincing that the effects artists weren't saddled with selling every pixel of it.
The amount of very cool stunt work being done in the movie doesn't change how much CGI is in the movie. Per the VFX supervisor Andrew Jackson, there were 2000 visual effects shots in the movie.
And per the director of photography John Seales, "There was an enormous amount of green screen. The 40 to 45 percent of the film with the beautiful Charlize Theron and five beautiful girls in the backseat who are all involved in getting that truck to a certain point and back again is done without the truck moving. The visual effects boys built big hydraulics rams and could put the entire semi-trailer tanker onto rams and rock that thing."
Do I think Furiosa's look is occasionally more artificial than Fury Road's? Sure. And it certainly has much more CGI, I'd think, given how much longer the movie is, so maybe the budget was stretched for certain shots. But just for the record, Fury Road has a ton of CGI in it.
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8. "Saw it again this morning with a Q&A " In response to Reply # 0
This moves much faster on a rewatch. I'm convinced that this has two of the best action sequences on film.
Still like Fury Road more, but yeah I fuck with this hard.
Q&A afterwards was wild as George Miller halfway through just casually talks about how difficult Tom Hardy was on Fury Road, while how easy it was to work with everyone in this film.
Chris Hemsworth: "America has STAR WARS. Britain has HARRY POTTER. Australia has MAD MAX."
9. "Will be seeing this at the Lincoln Center IMAX this Sunday morning." In response to Reply # 8
I'm pretty certain I didn't watch Fury Road at the Lincoln Center IMAX last go round, but I could be wrong. Almost wished I did way back when since I actually went to another movie theater to watch Fury Road a second time because I was so impressed with the movie.
I hope all the special effects will be that much more impressive in that massive IMAX theater.
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>Q&A afterwards was wild as George Miller halfway through just >casually talks about how difficult Tom Hardy was on Fury Road, >while how easy it was to work with everyone in this film.
Did anyone prompt him to mention Tom Hardy? If not, it sounds as if George Miller is heavily disappointed that he won't be able to recast Tom Hardy for future Mad Max films.
"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.
10. "Really enjoyed this" In response to Reply # 0
It's a very different film from Fury Road and doesn't reach the heights of that film but it's still really enjoyable and really well done. This would likely be the best film any other filmmaker's filmography.
Anya Taylor-Joy was the perfect choice and makes the inane "Why did they recast Furiosa?!" handwringing even dumber in hindsight.
Action-wise, I don't think anything here touches Fury Road but the sequences are no slouch and George Miller is a master and when he stops making these it'll be a great loss. I don't think there is anyone alive making sequences on this level that are not only insane and technically perfect but serve story and develop character.
I want to highlight that Miller knows how to build out a world and a mythology without losing mystique. Something so many prequels fail to do. The world and the characters become MORE interesting not less here. It's like the opposite of Solo: A Star Wars Story. You're rewarded for having seen the other films in the series and your intelligence isn't insulted and but you're not penalized if you're not familiar with Fury Road or any of the Mad Max films that preceded it.
Everything feels organic and not like "well, we don't actually have any worthwhile stories to tell but we have this IP so let's fan fic some fill in the blank shit on a popular character"
I'd love another Furiosa film
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‘Furiosa’ Up In Smoke With $31M-$33M, Possibly Lowest Memorial Day Opening In 41 Years, Might Get Clawed By ‘Garfield’: How Worried Should Hollywood Be About Theatrical? – Saturday Update
I wonder if *most* movies are going to perform this way now that people pay for fast internet and multiple streaming services - that they won't prioritize spending money to go to the theatre, which can realistically run $12-22 per ticket in major cities, plus gas, parking, sodas, the un-skippable trailers, etc.
Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86917 posts
Thu May-30-24 01:40 AM
19. "A lot's changed in the last decade, though." In response to Reply # 17
When Fury Road came out, movies weren't going to digital 3 weeks after release and they still had physical media as a viable form of post-release revenue. Now, physical media is a mere shadow of its former self, and audiences are far more prone to stay home to see a movie they know will stream less than a month away.
These days, unless you have a special deal due to some massive star or big name director throwing a fit about keeping it exclusively in theaters as long as possible, your movie realistically has 3-4 weeks to make back its budget. Occasional movies leg out, yes, but I think the new normal will be "make money immediately or panic" unless they extend the amount of time a movie is exclusively in theaters.
I certainly hope Furiosa becomes a leggy hit.... but Fury Road had a lot going for it that Furiosa really doesn't due to the current state of the industry.
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Wall Street killed shit. If it doesn't look good on a spreadsheet, then the suits don't care.
The Fall Guy hit VOD in less than two weeks. What kind of message does that send out? To audiences and filmmakers alike (even as a background extra, that has to be disheartening).
The studios are doing this to themselves. Netflix is still the biggest streamer despite still being billions in debt and consistently doling out garbage that's talked about for a day or two before everyone forgets about it.
It's scary for sure, but these people don't even give things a chance. Even Barbie was shoved to VOD pretty quickly last year when it was STILL making around 8 million a weekend.
13. "Thunderdome to Fury Road's Road Warrior (with less quality gap)" In response to Reply # 0
Slowed things down and got into wasteland politics. Enjoyed it a lot. Not the adrenaline shot of Fury Road, but plenty of emotion and personality. The action set pieces were sort of Spielberg-ish, unfolding gradually, but satisfyingly.
Effect work had some dodgy moments (a few too obvious green screens and cgi bodies flying around with weird physics) but overall looked great. Every performance was good. Towards the end it sounded like they actually dubbed Charlize's voice they were so close.
I worry word of mouth won't help this build momentum, since to me this is more like a Bladerunner 2049 type movie, where some people will really love settling into this movie's vibe, while others will think it's long and weird. Funny how solid of a franchise Mad Max has grown into five movies in.
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Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86917 posts
Thu May-30-24 01:41 AM
20. "I mean, it's great." In response to Reply # 0
Not much to add to what others have said. Give Hemsworth a Best Supporting Actor nomination.
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23. "A bit of an odd question here for folks that saw the movie" In response to Reply # 0 Thu May-30-24 12:20 PM by Numba_33
Am I the only one that thought Dr. Dementus had a slight resemblance to Nicole Kidman?
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Also also; the actor that played the guy that Dementus captured from Gastown towards the middle of the movie was an Aborigine, correct? Pretty cool of Miller to cast an Aborigine since the movie took place in Australia and all; nice representation.
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24. "RE: A bit of an odd question here for folks that saw the movie" In response to Reply # 23
>Am I the only one that thought Dr. Dementus had a slight >resemblance to Nicole Kidman?
The nose?
> > >Also also; the actor that played the guy that Dementus >captured from Gastown towards the middle of the movie was an >Aborigine, correct? Pretty cool of Miller to cast an Aborigine >since the movie took place in Australia and all; nice >representation.
I didn't catch that but I believe that there was another Aborigine that's in the camp when young Furiosa first shows up.
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