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Hitokiri
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"Shogun (FX, Hulu 2024)"


  

          

Trailer just dropped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAN5uspO_hk




Based on the 1975 novel of the same name, a fictionalized version of the life of William Adams, a sailor, and the first Englishman to reach Japan. The novel was wildly successful and widely celebrated. As much as I hate the fact that white people are still centered in this story, it does look pretty great based on the trailer.

About the novel from wiki:

The editor of Learning from Shōgun: Japanese History and Western Fantasy (1980) estimated that 20 to 50% of all students in American college-level courses about Japan had read the novel. He described the book as "a virtual encyclopedia of Japanese history and culture; somewhere among those half-million words, one can find a brief description of virtually everything one wanted to know about Japan", and stated that "In sheer quantity, Shōgun has probably conveyed more information about Japan to more people than all the combined writings of scholars, journalists, and novelists since the Pacific War". The author of James Clavell: A Critical Companion calls the novel "one of the most effective depictions of cross-cultural encounters ever written", and "Clavell's finest effort".

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Subject Author Message Date ID
I'm one episode in and this shit is fire.
Feb 29th 2024
1
first episode had a feature film budget
Mar 13th 2024
3
it's good
Mar 13th 2024
2
enjoying this so far
Mar 19th 2024
4
Episode 5 was incredible
Mar 21st 2024
5
LOVING this show
Mar 21st 2024
6
Episode 7 was wild!
Apr 05th 2024
7
I was not expecting it to end like it did
Apr 05th 2024
8
      about to watch ep8 but kind of wondering it it's the opposite
Apr 09th 2024
9
           well damn
Apr 09th 2024
10
                Brutal
Apr 10th 2024
11
Episode 9. Goddamn.
Apr 16th 2024
12
Mariko stood on business
Apr 17th 2024
14
honestly I'm liking it less as it progressed
Apr 16th 2024
13
They really fell back on that though
Apr 18th 2024
15
I'm don't find any of the characters to be the least bit engaging
Apr 19th 2024
16

Hitokiri
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1. "I'm one episode in and this shit is fire."
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Goddamn.

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will_5198
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3. "first episode had a feature film budget"
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whole series looks expensive as hell

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will_5198
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2. "it's good"
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never read the original novel or know that much about the history, but it fills the void in the "ruling class power struggle" genre until House of Dragons returns

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makaveli
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4. "enjoying this so far"
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i'm in.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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Hitokiri
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5. "Episode 5 was incredible"
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best of the series so far, and there hasn't been anything but great episodes. But this one, man.

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6. "LOVING this show"
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everything about it is so well done.

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Hitokiri
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7. "Episode 7 was wild!"
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Almost as good as 5 imo, but I'm sure lots will say this was the best so far.

I don't know how much I can or should say in here with the lack of engagement, but if you ain't watching this show, you should be.

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JiggysMyDayJob
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8. "I was not expecting it to end like it did"
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shit ended on some "Oops!" Torunaga's brother is an asshole for sure. Not sure what Blackthorne is going to do but he's ain't trying to go out like them.

Big ups to the madam, she was letting Torunaga know she can see through the bullshit.

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Mynoriti
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9. "about to watch ep8 but kind of wondering it it's the opposite "
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Tue Apr-09-24 03:47 PM by Mynoriti

  

          

Like people assume he has a plan but the flashback then finding out the true version of the story, showing he may not be quite as legendary as his legend. But I'm hoping she's right and I'm wrong

>Big ups to the madam, she was letting Torunaga know she can
>see through the bullshit.

  

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Mynoriti
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10. "well damn"
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talk about 4D chess

  

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Pamalama
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11. "Brutal"
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The last two episodes had us speechless. Mouth agape.

Although I did chuckle when the priest arrived at the plot.

  

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Hitokiri
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12. "Episode 9. Goddamn."
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This show is just amazing.

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JiggysMyDayJob
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14. "Mariko stood on business"
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My dude Yashibuge is going to survive anything. Ishido is still playing checkers and Tokonaga is playing 4-D chess.

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will_5198
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13. "honestly I'm liking it less as it progressed"
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and I believe it's because the romantic tension between Blackthorne and Mariko is not very believable or engaging

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Hitokiri
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15. "They really fell back on that though"
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I thought it would be a storyline that, based on the first few episodes, took up more screen time than it did in the second half of the series.

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3xKrazy
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16. "I'm don't find any of the characters to be the least bit engaging"
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>and I believe it's because the romantic tension between
>Blackthorne and Mariko is not very believable or engaging

nor do they noticeably differentiate themselves from one another and as a result i feel no sense of investment in their outcomes.

I just started ep. 9 so I'm withholding judgment in case I get a really nice payoff at the end but for me it's been severely disappointing relative to all the fanfare.

and ya, the blackthorne/mariko relationship is goofy IMO

  

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